There’s a lot at stake tonight.
The All Blacks haven’t lost a match at Eden Park in 30 years, and England hasn't beaten the All Blacks on New Zealand soil for 21 years.
Both of those records are on the line tonight after last week's 16-15 win in Dunedin.
Former All Blacks centurion Mils Muliaina joined Piney to discuss how both teams will be feeling heading into tonight's test.
He told him that England’s narrow loss last weekend in Dunedin would’ve pumped the team up, as there is an opportunity to break the 30 year streak.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Second Test of Razors rain tonight, Eden Park, five past
seven full commentary for you here on News Talks EDB,
Elliott Smith and Frank Bunce in the commentary box. I'll
wander up and down the sideline and get a close
up view. So a build up begins from six with
kickoff just after seven o'clock. England are again the opponents
after the sixteen fifteen win for the All Blacks a
(00:34):
week ago in Dunedin.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Fairback runs into two point five. Still there, panly Perie
on backs, holding on, holding on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
There's a summer out there the show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
When that's first test of the year, penally holding on
the run holding properly was the man that put the
pennery and now the All Blacks need just to get
it into touts. Everyone needs to take a deep breath.
Damien McKenzie taps text it at the touts and you
all right of All Black Rugby begins with an old
(01:09):
patent test match time Wrestle you zeven sixteen in fifteen
full time at full Side Park Stadium in Donedo, the
All Blacks. What a buy?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah? Are we going to see more of the same tonight?
Let's find out. Let's bring an All Blacks test. Centurion
rugby commentator and analyst co host of The Breakdown on
Sky Sport, Mills Mullyana is with us Mills. How different
a Test match or not do you expect tonight compared
to what we saw last weekend in duonedin.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Oh. I think it'll be a couple of changes really.
Obviously the first testaments last week is a little bit
of suppose feeling out in terms of the way that
both teams sort of played. It was pretty physical last week,
particularly on the English side and that tective breakdown. But
a week in an All Blacks camp and another week,
shall I say, considering then ow they've come they came
(02:02):
together nine days or ten days before that first sort
of test. I think we'll just allow them, you know,
enough time again to sort of analyze what happened in
the game and perhaps you know, come up with some
you know, some some solutions. I mean, the big positives
for the All Blacks is the fact that they actually won.
They're on the right side of the scoreboard. But there's
there's there will be a lot of things that would
(02:23):
have looked at and you know, hopefully trying and implement that.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Tonight you talked about solutions there and I guess England's
rush defense was well in evidence last weekend. How do
you combat the rush defense?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, I think they obviously recognized last week they needed
to carry a lot better. They're not t bone as much,
you know, the big forwards sort of started to sort
of stay up a little a little bit longer. But
it often comes back also to the playing on the
right side of the field in a position. I don't
think we kicked as well as what prads who would
we would have wanted where we're England did. We played
(02:56):
a lot of rugby inside that sort of. I suppose
between our twenty two to our you know, our team
meter channel, our team met a line forty outs sixty
out should I say from the opposition, And I guess
that's where England are really tough. They're tough out wide now.
They slowed our ball down out wide and then they
just got massive line speed and absorbed a lot of numbers.
(03:17):
So I think technically we need to be a little
bit more sound, but also the risk versus reward. We're
probably a little bit still and super rag me more
in some cases, you know, just outside the twenty two
thinking that you know, we we could, we could try
and you know and break from there. But definitely, I
think from a technical point of view, you'll probably see
(03:37):
a lot a lot more kicking from from the All
Blacks to try and you know, get the English down
and then probably force force to kick out. But even
after that, you know, making sure that they hit the
line outs. And that was that was pretty evident last
week that they missed golden opportunities to really put pressure
on the English.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Just the one enforced change for the All Blacks with
them like Christie coming into halfback with TJ. Pitt Andaa's
injury Stephen Pittifetza and fall back of you into another start.
How improved were you with him last week?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I was really impressed, was given the fact that he's
hardly had any sort of raby during super Raby with injury.
He's come into this sort of sort of role as
positional play is outstanding, particularly at the back, and I
knowed him give any many kicks you know to him.
You know, Damien McKenzie was pretty isolated in terms of
the English sort of tactic. But I think he steps
(04:26):
up at the right time and he will grow in confidence.
He will grow confidence in terms of his role with
with within this you know this this side, and in
particularly his combination with with Damian McKenzie when when you
know he needs to step up. Also, this is Betifeta
in terms of relieving some pressure off him, you know,
because he knows, we know he can play that for us,
(04:47):
that pivot role. It's just it's just about time in
the settle. You really know, it's his footwork when it
when it came and then set up that try so
he will grow from that and looking forward to the
way he sort of continues his growth in that all
black jersey.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And what about Damian McKenzie Mills, what would his week
have consisted of in terms of what he might want
to improve on or do differently tonight?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Oh, I think it was. It was pretty tough. One
aspect is that that's been talked about. It is obviously
cooking up as goal kicks because we don't want to,
we don't want to get to that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
But I.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I think you know who'll want to but clean a board.
There's definitely opportunities out there, and again the combinations coming together,
the communication about how to get that ball out wide,
but also the fact that he's in that kind of
role and seeing different pictures, you know, getting us down
at the right end of the park and forcing the
(05:41):
English to perhaps not kick so well, and when I
say not kick so well, you know, giving us kicks
that we can actually carry attack because you know, we
gave the English that last week we kicked out and
gave him an opportunity to in the mindset, you know,
inside whilst it was inside the behalf, but when you're
sitting around your sort of you know, forty meter mark,
that's that's in your mindset, changes to attack and that's
(06:04):
the kind of kicks we want to to retrieve from
the English and you know, we know we can we
can play from that that sort of area. But I
think technically for Damien, you know, a bit more time
in terms of the whole week preparing and controlling this forwards,
but also you know, the connection from the guys out
wide and hopefully you know, getting a bit more flow
(06:25):
in the game.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, likely to see a test day both for Corties
off the bench tonight. How do you assess his ability
to take the step up to test rugby from what
you've seen from him at super rugby level, you.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Know, and also fantastic that Courtiers gets an opportunity. Yes,
it's off the back end of TJ being injured, but
he's got real energy and you know, often in this role,
particularly when you're playing against your English it's those half opportunities.
He'll go out there if he gets an opportunity and
your pass and deliver and he's got a very good pass.
But sometimes when when you're that young and you're enthusiastic,
(07:00):
I mean you have to look on the other side.
With Fin Bexter, the way he's sort of came one,
I mean his debut and gee was she was immense.
The opportunities that arise, and given the environment that he's
in and the coaching staff that he's got there, you know,
you're just sort of picking the fact that something opens
up he'll go and he's certainly explosive and doing that,
(07:20):
a real talent and I'm sure once when he gets
on he will he'll be really good.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
England were forced into a late change yesterday fall back
George Fairbank being ruled out with a back injury. That's
a loss, isn't it. I thought he was quite good
last week.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Very good. I mean she was. He was strong in
his carries, he was threatening when he sort of brought
the ball back, but defensively as well. He didn't mind
putting the shoulder on. I mean, but Stillard comes into it.
You know, he's he's no stranger in this environment. He's
a very big man. He's to I think he's like
one point ninety six was two meters you know, and
got under the high ball. Perhaps perhaps hasn't got the
(07:54):
attacking pro wresses what tha a bank does. But he'll
still be pretty strong. So I think they've lost a
bit there, but certainly in terms of the replacement, you know,
he's he's he's pretty sound as well.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Will there be any thought mells in England's mind that
they missed a big chance last week to get a
win in New Zealand? I mean, if they're going to
win anywhere more likely to need in the need and
Park where no one's done for ages, will they in
any way be demotivated by their lost opportunity a week ago.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I don't think so. I think it could have easily
been they could have easily won that game. There's this
moment where where they possibly could have, but I think
this week it would have actually pumped them up to
there's opportunity here, you know. And a lot of it
was talked about the fact that they're going to play
the old sort of style, the role in malls in
a kicking game, but there is a bit of a
(08:43):
balance in terms of the way they play and also
their mindset in terms of hey, well we can ever
go as well. They're very good over the board defensively.
I think for them it's about, hey, we know we
can put the All Blacks under pressure, and if we
continue to, if we can do that and come out
of the break and then enforce them, force them mistakes.
(09:05):
Particular when the All Blacks will want to possibly try
and play earlier on, I think they're on and so
I think they'll be highly motivated after last week to say, hey,
well men, we're physical and we can we can try
and beat them up. But also if you want to
play the expensive game, perhaps we can we can go
that far as to hey, we can stick with you.
Whereas I think, you know, before no one would have
(09:27):
thought they'd be able to stick with it with an
All Blecks of the game. That's sort of that opens up.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And the eden Park fortress that has become thirty years
since anyone beat the All Blacks in a test of
Aden Park. You were part of a lot of test
matches at eden Park. When you ran out there, did
you just expect to win on that patch of crass?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I know there is that comfort, right, that's that you're
there in eden parkers So there is that comfort of
as a fortress. Not so much to affectate it, it
was a given, but it gives you that a little
bit bit more confidence that you know Eden Park it's
a I suppose the fortress in itself, but the surroundings
(10:05):
too that but also you know those sort of records
are made to be broken and the all Bricks you
know that's very well aware of it and don't want
to go out there. It's a different sort of different
sort of team. You still have the comfort of that
you know historically, but the English will be highly motivated
to make sure, you know, they break it. They have
one ear for twenty one years also, so next motivation
(10:28):
in itself, Whilst it gives you comfort, this is going
to be a massive test match and you network for
both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Tom Man Mills, thanks for your preview made always love
chatting rugby with you. We'll see you but later on tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah great cheating Pinty, Good on you mate.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Thanks to Dave. That's Mills, mullyana there with his thoughts.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to news Talks'd be weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Second Test of Razors rain tonight, Eden Park, five past
seven full commentary for you here on News Talks EDB,
Elliott Smith and Frank Bunce in the commentary box. I'll
wander up and down the sideline and get a close
up view. So a build up begins from six with
kickoff just after seven o'clock. England are again the opponents
after the sixteen fifteen win for the All Blacks a
(00:34):
week ago in Dunedin.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Fairback runs into two point five. Still there, panly Perie
on backs, holding on, holding on.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
There's a summer out there the show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
When that's first test of the year, penally holding on
the run holding properly was the man that put the
pennery and now the All Blacks need just to get
it into touts. Everyone needs to take a deep breath.
Damien McKenzie taps text it at the touts and you
all right of All Black Rugby begins with an old
(01:09):
patent test match time Wrestle you zeven sixteen in fifteen
full time at full Side Park Stadium in Donedo, the
All Blacks. What a buy?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah? Are we going to see more of the same tonight?
Let's find out. Let's bring an All Blacks test. Centurion
rugby commentator and analyst co host of The Breakdown on
Sky Sport, Mills Mullyana is with us Mills. How different
a Test match or not do you expect tonight compared
to what we saw last weekend in duonedin.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Oh. I think it'll be a couple of changes really.
Obviously the first testaments last week is a little bit
of suppose feeling out in terms of the way that
both teams sort of played. It was pretty physical last week,
particularly on the English side and that tective breakdown. But
a week in an All Blacks camp and another week,
shall I say, considering then ow they've come they came
(02:02):
together nine days or ten days before that first sort
of test. I think we'll just allow them, you know,
enough time again to sort of analyze what happened in
the game and perhaps you know, come up with some
you know, some some solutions. I mean, the big positives
for the All Blacks is the fact that they actually won.
They're on the right side of the scoreboard. But there's
there's there will be a lot of things that would
(02:23):
have looked at and you know, hopefully trying and implement that.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Tonight you talked about solutions there and I guess England's
rush defense was well in evidence last weekend. How do
you combat the rush defense?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, I think they obviously recognized last week they needed
to carry a lot better. They're not t bone as much,
you know, the big forwards sort of started to sort
of stay up a little a little bit longer. But
it often comes back also to the playing on the
right side of the field in a position. I don't
think we kicked as well as what prads who would
we would have wanted where we're England did. We played
(02:56):
a lot of rugby inside that sort of. I suppose
between our twenty two to our you know, our team
meter channel, our team met a line forty outs sixty
out should I say from the opposition, And I guess
that's where England are really tough. They're tough out wide now.
They slowed our ball down out wide and then they
just got massive line speed and absorbed a lot of numbers.
(03:17):
So I think technically we need to be a little
bit more sound, but also the risk versus reward. We're
probably a little bit still and super rag me more
in some cases, you know, just outside the twenty two
thinking that you know, we we could, we could try
and you know and break from there. But definitely, I
think from a technical point of view, you'll probably see
(03:37):
a lot a lot more kicking from from the All
Blacks to try and you know, get the English down
and then probably force force to kick out. But even
after that, you know, making sure that they hit the
line outs. And that was that was pretty evident last
week that they missed golden opportunities to really put pressure
on the English.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Just the one enforced change for the All Blacks with
them like Christie coming into halfback with TJ. Pitt Andaa's
injury Stephen Pittifetza and fall back of you into another start.
How improved were you with him last week?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I was really impressed, was given the fact that he's
hardly had any sort of raby during super Raby with injury.
He's come into this sort of sort of role as
positional play is outstanding, particularly at the back, and I
knowed him give any many kicks you know to him.
You know, Damien McKenzie was pretty isolated in terms of
the English sort of tactic. But I think he steps
(04:26):
up at the right time and he will grow in confidence.
He will grow confidence in terms of his role with
with within this you know this this side, and in
particularly his combination with with Damian McKenzie when when you
know he needs to step up. Also, this is Betifeta
in terms of relieving some pressure off him, you know,
because he knows, we know he can play that for us,
(04:47):
that pivot role. It's just it's just about time in
the settle. You really know, it's his footwork when it
when it came and then set up that try so
he will grow from that and looking forward to the
way he sort of continues his growth in that all
black jersey.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And what about Damian McKenzie Mills, what would his week
have consisted of in terms of what he might want
to improve on or do differently tonight?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Oh, I think it was. It was pretty tough. One
aspect is that that's been talked about. It is obviously
cooking up as goal kicks because we don't want to,
we don't want to get to that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
But I.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I think you know who'll want to but clean a board.
There's definitely opportunities out there, and again the combinations coming together,
the communication about how to get that ball out wide,
but also the fact that he's in that kind of
role and seeing different pictures, you know, getting us down
at the right end of the park and forcing the
(05:41):
English to perhaps not kick so well, and when I
say not kick so well, you know, giving us kicks
that we can actually carry attack because you know, we
gave the English that last week we kicked out and
gave him an opportunity to in the mindset, you know,
inside whilst it was inside the behalf, but when you're
sitting around your sort of you know, forty meter mark,
that's that's in your mindset, changes to attack and that's
(06:04):
the kind of kicks we want to to retrieve from
the English and you know, we know we can we
can play from that that sort of area. But I
think technically for Damien, you know, a bit more time
in terms of the whole week preparing and controlling this forwards,
but also you know, the connection from the guys out
wide and hopefully you know, getting a bit more flow
(06:25):
in the game.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, likely to see a test day both for Corties
off the bench tonight. How do you assess his ability
to take the step up to test rugby from what
you've seen from him at super rugby level, you.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Know, and also fantastic that Courtiers gets an opportunity. Yes,
it's off the back end of TJ being injured, but
he's got real energy and you know, often in this role,
particularly when you're playing against your English it's those half opportunities.
He'll go out there if he gets an opportunity and
your pass and deliver and he's got a very good pass.
But sometimes when when you're that young and you're enthusiastic,
(07:00):
I mean you have to look on the other side.
With Fin Bexter, the way he's sort of came one,
I mean his debut and gee was she was immense.
The opportunities that arise, and given the environment that he's
in and the coaching staff that he's got there, you know,
you're just sort of picking the fact that something opens
up he'll go and he's certainly explosive and doing that,
(07:20):
a real talent and I'm sure once when he gets
on he will he'll be really good.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
England were forced into a late change yesterday fall back
George Fairbank being ruled out with a back injury. That's
a loss, isn't it. I thought he was quite good
last week.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Very good. I mean she was. He was strong in
his carries, he was threatening when he sort of brought
the ball back, but defensively as well. He didn't mind
putting the shoulder on. I mean, but Stillard comes into it.
You know, he's he's no stranger in this environment. He's
a very big man. He's to I think he's like
one point ninety six was two meters you know, and
got under the high ball. Perhaps perhaps hasn't got the
(07:54):
attacking pro wresses what tha a bank does. But he'll
still be pretty strong. So I think they've lost a
bit there, but certainly in terms of the replacement, you know,
he's he's he's pretty sound as well.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Will there be any thought mells in England's mind that
they missed a big chance last week to get a
win in New Zealand? I mean, if they're going to
win anywhere more likely to need in the need and
Park where no one's done for ages, will they in
any way be demotivated by their lost opportunity a week ago.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I don't think so. I think it could have easily
been they could have easily won that game. There's this
moment where where they possibly could have, but I think
this week it would have actually pumped them up to
there's opportunity here, you know. And a lot of it
was talked about the fact that they're going to play
the old sort of style, the role in malls in
a kicking game, but there is a bit of a
(08:43):
balance in terms of the way they play and also
their mindset in terms of hey, well we can ever
go as well. They're very good over the board defensively.
I think for them it's about, hey, we know we
can put the All Blacks under pressure, and if we
continue to, if we can do that and come out
of the break and then enforce them, force them mistakes.
(09:05):
Particular when the All Blacks will want to possibly try
and play earlier on, I think they're on and so
I think they'll be highly motivated after last week to say, hey,
well men, we're physical and we can we can try
and beat them up. But also if you want to
play the expensive game, perhaps we can we can go
that far as to hey, we can stick with you.
Whereas I think, you know, before no one would have
(09:27):
thought they'd be able to stick with it with an
All Blecks of the game. That's sort of that opens up.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And the eden Park fortress that has become thirty years
since anyone beat the All Blacks in a test of
Aden Park. You were part of a lot of test
matches at eden Park. When you ran out there, did
you just expect to win on that patch of crass?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I know there is that comfort, right, that's that you're
there in eden parkers So there is that comfort of
as a fortress. Not so much to affectate it, it
was a given, but it gives you that a little
bit bit more confidence that you know Eden Park it's
a I suppose the fortress in itself, but the surroundings
(10:05):
too that but also you know those sort of records
are made to be broken and the all Bricks you
know that's very well aware of it and don't want
to go out there. It's a different sort of different
sort of team. You still have the comfort of that
you know historically, but the English will be highly motivated
to make sure, you know, they break it. They have
one ear for twenty one years also, so next motivation
(10:28):
in itself, Whilst it gives you comfort, this is going
to be a massive test match and you network for
both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Tom Man Mills, thanks for your preview made always love
chatting rugby with you. We'll see you but later on tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah great cheating Pinty, Good on you mate.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Thanks to Dave. That's Mills, mullyana there with his thoughts.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to news Talks'd be weekends from midday, or follow the
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