September 26, 2025 • 14 mins
It’s time for the Bledisloe Cup, with the Wallabies and All Blacks clashing tonight at Eden Park.
The last time the Wallabies were able to claim the victory at the Fortress was in 1986 – David Campese scoring the winning point.
Australian halfback Nick Farr-Jones was the one to pass Campese the ball, and he later became the captain of the side, leading to victory in the 1991 Rugby World Cup.
Farr-Jones told Piney that until 1992, the All Blacks were the biggest test matches for Australia, and he remembers each match almost like it was yesterday.
He says that it was until 1987 that any international team actually stood up for the haka, and it was done as a sign of respect.
“As an opponent, you want to send a second message: that we’re not going to roll over and die.”
“If you’re going to beat us today, you’re gonna have to play bloody well.”
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
The last time Australia beat the All Blacks at Eden
Park was on the sixth of September nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
He's done trying to work a loop. Australia could score
if New Zealand i't careful here they go far. Jones
overlap for Campeze.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
He's there.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Australia has won the Cup. David Campese is overjoyed. Look
at the elation in the Australian team. Campeze hasn't seen
them all to day, but that makes it all worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Gee I remember that actually, like it was yesterday nineteen
eighty six. Australian halfback that day and provider of the
final pass to David Campese was Nick Pharr Jones. He
became Wallaby's captain in nineteen eighty eight and led the
side thirty six times. He was captain when Australia won
the Rugby World Cup in nineteen ninety one. In total,
he played sixty three Test matches for Australia, and in
(01:15):
nineteen ninety two he was made a Member of the
Order of Australia. For his services to rugby union that
same year, inducted into the Sport Australia Hall of Fame
and into World Rugby's Hall of Fame. In twenty eleven.
Nick Varr Jones is with us on Weekend Sport. Thanks
so much for joining us, Nick, What do you remember
most vividly about that day at Eden Park September nineteen
(01:36):
eighty six when you meat the All Blacks twenty two
points to nine.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, good a Jason to you and your listeners. I
love There are a lot of things. I mean, the
relief of winning.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
You know, we lost in Duneed and we thought we'd
secure the letters low down there, but we lost thirteen
twelve and then the two weeks we had to wait
to steal the deal was just. It was tough. It
was something that we wanted so much. There had been
four test matches where one point had separate raided the teams.
(02:07):
The last test in the eighty four series in Australia
I think was twenty four to twenty three to New Zealand.
The first test against the Baby Blacks at Wellington was
thirteen twelve to us down in Dundeed, and it was
thirteen twelve to the All Blacks, and so you know,
we just were so desperate to win, and I think
it was just the sheer relief Jason. But one thing
(02:28):
that I'll always remember was Campo scored the final try
with about ten minutes ago to really put it away
for us, and we went back to the kickoff and
there was my old man Max who jumped the fence
and was taking photographs on the sideline. So you've got
to remember it was a long time ago and you
could sort of do that thing, get away with that
(02:48):
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
But that was one of the lasting memories.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That I had, Absolutely fantastic. You played the All Blacks
eighteen more times after that. Were they the games you
looked forward to the most?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh? Look for sure.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I mean you've got to remember that until nineteen ninety two,
South Africa weren't in international rugby because of isolation from apartheid,
so the huge matches for US were always the All Blacks.
As you mentioned, I was lucky enough to play twenty
Tests eighteen for Australia and then I was privileged to
captain a World fifteen against the All Blacks. In your
(03:22):
nineteen ninety two centenary celebrations, so every match I remember
almost like it was yesterday. I think we won seven,
we drew one, and you guys won the rest. But
it was it was amazing. And you know, you've got
to remember everyone thinks that the opposition always stood up
to the Harker. It really wasn't until nineteen eighty seven
(03:43):
that inaugur World Cup year. Not that we played them
in the World Cup, of course, but we played a
one off Test and that was the first time that
any international team actually stood up to the Harker. But
we did that out of respect. I'd much prefer to
be ten meters away eyeballing your opponent and respecting the
great tradition of New Zealand rugby than fifty meters away
(04:04):
and turning you back. And you know Jo's and for
your listeners, that respect was because you're such a great
rugby nation you have been right through the decades. But
as an opponent, you want to send a second message
that we're not going to roll over and die. And
if you're going to be just today, you're gonna have
to play bloody well.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Absolutely brilliant. Who were some of the more formidable players.
You were always aware of and planned for when the
Australian sides you were and played against the All Blacks.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Ah, look, you had amazing packs and what have you.
But I think someone who really revolutionized back row play
was Michael Jones. And at the end of the day,
when you talk about tactics, if Michael Jones played well,
we lost.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
It was that simple, and so a lot of our.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Tactics were around burying him in deep dark places, making
sure that he makes as many tackles as possible and
gets at the bottom of rucks and mall so he
couldn't be in the face of Michael Lyoner, Tim Hoore
and Jason Little Campo. If he was, we basically lost.
In the other guy that we'd often form tactics around,
who's a great mate of mine as Michael is, but
(05:12):
a guy who I catch up with reasonably regularly whenever
I'm in New Zealand or he's over here, is Grant
fox Foxy as well. If he had a great game
or played well, in all likelihood we lost. But we
had to devise our tactics around taking time and space
from Grant and putting him under as much pressure as
we could, And if we did that, we had a
(05:33):
chance of winning.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now, is it true that you and Tim Horan took
a dip in Wellington Harbor after you beat the All
Blacks of the Athletic Park in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
We did, indeed, Jason, We actually we'd had a pack
that had we won in Auckland. We were staying at
the Monde Dezie hotel which was on the harbor, and
we basically said before the match at Eden Park in
nineteen ninety that if we win, we'll.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Sneak down to the harbor and have a dip.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Well, we lost in a close game in Allband, but
I think we're in a nightclub at about one am.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
My wife was there as well. I can assure you
of that.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
But I think I went up to Tim or he
came up to me at about one am and said, well,
we didn't do it in Auckland, but how about we
go down to the harbor And we did that, and
I can assure you it wasn't very warm. And there
are some photos drifting around and I'm not overly proud
of those photos.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I can assure you.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Many of your tests NICA course were alongside the great
Michael Liner. How did you achieve the chemistry you did
with him as a nine ten combo.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Look, I was lucky enough to play my first four
Tests against alongside Mark Ella, the Great Mark Ella, before
he retired at the end of the Grand Slam in
eighty four. And then Michael will switched from twelve to
his more usual position of ten. Of course he played
for Queensland. I played for New South Wales. But somehow
when we came together in that gold jersey, it always
(07:04):
jelledlarly as captain. Michael took so much pressure off me
as the captain because anything outside me, from a scrum
or what have you, he would basically take over. He
would call the shots, so that really took a lot
of pressure off me. If I didn't want to play
a back row move or something closer to the ruck
(07:24):
or mall or scrum, then not. He really took over
from there and that just gave me a lot more
I suppose breathing space to be able to focus on
my role as a scrum half and captain. But he
was a terrific player. We had a great telepathy. I knew,
you know, if he wanted to drift pass or if
(07:45):
he wanted to direct. He was one of those guys
that was insistent on where you hit him, always had
to be sort of on his hip about waist high.
He was pretty particular in relation to that, compared to
someone like Mark Eller, who basically said, Nick, you do
the chucking, I'll do the catching. But look, I played
over fifty Tests with Michael and it was an absolute privilege.
(08:06):
It's wonderful to seeze young fellow coming through, or he's
two young fellas coming through in world rugby.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You both, of course were part of that nineteen ninety
one Rugby World Cup winning side. What were the key
ingredients in that side that lifted the William web Ellis
Trophy in ninety one.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Look, Jason I took over the captaincy in nineteen eighty eight.
In the first couple of years of captaining the Wallabies,
we could be very inconsistent. We could be fantastic one
Saturday and seven days later play like busted bums. What
I think really changed from that important victory at Wellington.
That's when we knew that we could beat the All
(08:45):
Blacks and we could beat anyone on our day, and
to me, we'd lost the Bledislow.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
But that victory that.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Third Test in nineteen ninety was what changed everything. And
I think there's a little bit of comparison with this
Australian team now and the young leader Harry Wilson. Having
won that Third Test, we'd lost the series against the Lines,
but that third Test victory I compared to our victory
nineteen ninety at Wellington, because this team led by Harry
now knows that they can beat anyone on their day.
(09:14):
They proved that at Ella's Park. They of course, you know,
played well against Argentina. To beat the lines in that
third Test convincingly was fantastic and that's why I think
this team will be right up for this match this
afternoon at Eden Park. But to get back to what
I was saying, it was really we had to change
the culture of that team that was very inconsistent to
(09:36):
a team that is what I call process driven. Understand
the process individually and collectively. It goes way beyond the
eighty minutes, but understand what it is in the eighty minutes,
and we became a very consistent team. I think about
the last twenty five Tests I played in the nineties,
we won about twenty two of them, and it was
really that consistency that we developed over that sort of
(09:58):
crucial two three year period.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Is it a source of frustration that the Bledisloe hasn't
been on your side of the ditch now for over
two decades?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Oh, look, I'm pretty sure it is.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
I mean, ask any player who's lost to the All
Blacks and hasn't won a Bledisloe, Ask any Australian fan,
ask the families of the players. Anyone connected to rugby
is hugely frustrated that the Bledisloe hasn't been one. It's
disappointing these days that you know, you don't have three
(10:31):
Test series and so you guys only have to win
the one match to retain it.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
But yeah, this is critical.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
That's why today, this afternoon will be so critical for
Australian rugby that we can go to Perth next weekend
with a live series and have the chance of winning
that Bledisloe because it is one of the great trophies
in world sport and we just haven't had it for
over two decades.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Just had a question come through for you, Nick. I'm
not sure whether you're able to answer it, but can
you please ask Nick his thoughts on cam Roy Guard
and where he sees him in the ranks. Of halfbacks
around the world at the moment. Have you seen itmit
of Cameroy gat No.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Look, I was saying to your producer before our chat
today that I really haven't seen too much of New
Zealand rugby this year, and so I haven't that I'll
I'll be very interested to see how he goes against
Tate McDermott.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
How old is cam Just out of interest?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
He's twenty four, twenty three, twenty.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Four, okay, and he obviously deserves his jersey and a
lot of New Zealander is a raving about him.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I suspect absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know, he's well, he hasn't been in the team
for the last four Test matches. Getting him back for
this one has been seen as a huge boost because
he already has sort of opened up a gap between
he and the next best in his position. So yeah, no,
I think that Battle of the Nines this afternoon, as
a lot of the battles will be nick will be
will be crucial. Yeah, yeah, just to finish and you
(12:02):
mention it there, what would it mean to win this
game this afternoon, for the Wallabies to take the series
to a sold out Perth, and perhaps for the Wallabies
to get their hands back on that coveted price.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It means everything to us, so I can assure you
of that. And you know, it's been quite amazing since that,
or since the success of the line series financially and
also from the way our team played to see this
team that seems very close. It's not just the team,
it's the squad that Harry Wilson talks about. I think
(12:35):
Wilson's developing into one of the great captains. I think
he'll be around for a long time injury pending, but
it means so much to Australian supporters and the talk
just in the streets that this team is finally developing
into something that could compete for Bledisloy Cups. And you know,
(12:56):
obviously in two years time, World Cup being hosted here
in Australia, and everyone is just very very excited after
the we plummeted to the depths of the twenty twenty
three World Cup, not making the quarter finals. So there's
a very good sentiment drifting around the streets of Sydney
and Brisbane and Perth and Melbourne that this team is
(13:20):
starting to aim up. They really can challenge the best
in the world on their day and it's all about
that consistency.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But this is huge for us.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
There'll be hundreds of thousands of people glued to the tv'
Eden park this afternoon at three o'clock Australian Eastern Seaboard time.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I can assure you of that, Jason.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Wonderful stuff. Nick. It's so great to have you leading
us off on such a big day on the side
of the Tasman. All the best to you and thanks
for you at your time and your analysis the softernoon.
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, pleasure Jason. I hope it's a fantastic afternoon. Obviously
we need one result for you guys, not to retain
it but to your listeners enjoy the spectacle.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Wonderful stuff. Nick, now cheers to you too, mate, Nick
Farr Jones. There Gie, what a great man joining us
to lead us off here on bled Us Slow Cup
day in Auckland. Gwynn, says Jason say Heider. Nick, My
daughter and I caught up with him for a bear
at Circular Key in Sydney a few years ago. The
nicest man, a true gentleman. Yeah, you can absolutely tell,
can't your Nigel, says Nick Varr Jones. Sounds like an
(14:23):
absolute champ. Is he really Australian? I think he probably is, Nigel,
I think he probably is. But yeah, but I get
where you're coming from.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
The last time Australia beat the All Blacks at Eden
Park was on the sixth of September nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
He's done trying to work a loop. Australia could score
if New Zealand i't careful here they go far. Jones
overlap for Campeze.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
He's there.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Australia has won the Cup. David Campese is overjoyed. Look
at the elation in the Australian team. Campeze hasn't seen
them all to day, but that makes it all worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Gee I remember that actually, like it was yesterday nineteen
eighty six. Australian halfback that day and provider of the
final pass to David Campese was Nick Pharr Jones. He
became Wallaby's captain in nineteen eighty eight and led the
side thirty six times. He was captain when Australia won
the Rugby World Cup in nineteen ninety one. In total,
he played sixty three Test matches for Australia, and in
(01:15):
nineteen ninety two he was made a Member of the
Order of Australia. For his services to rugby union that
same year, inducted into the Sport Australia Hall of Fame
and into World Rugby's Hall of Fame. In twenty eleven.
Nick Varr Jones is with us on Weekend Sport. Thanks
so much for joining us, Nick, What do you remember
most vividly about that day at Eden Park September nineteen
(01:36):
eighty six when you meat the All Blacks twenty two
points to nine.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, good a Jason to you and your listeners. I
love There are a lot of things. I mean, the
relief of winning.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
You know, we lost in Duneed and we thought we'd
secure the letters low down there, but we lost thirteen
twelve and then the two weeks we had to wait
to steal the deal was just. It was tough. It
was something that we wanted so much. There had been
four test matches where one point had separate raided the teams.
(02:07):
The last test in the eighty four series in Australia
I think was twenty four to twenty three to New Zealand.
The first test against the Baby Blacks at Wellington was
thirteen twelve to us down in Dundeed, and it was
thirteen twelve to the All Blacks, and so you know,
we just were so desperate to win, and I think
it was just the sheer relief Jason. But one thing
(02:28):
that I'll always remember was Campo scored the final try
with about ten minutes ago to really put it away
for us, and we went back to the kickoff and
there was my old man Max who jumped the fence
and was taking photographs on the sideline. So you've got
to remember it was a long time ago and you
could sort of do that thing, get away with that
(02:48):
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
But that was one of the lasting memories.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
That I had, Absolutely fantastic. You played the All Blacks
eighteen more times after that. Were they the games you
looked forward to the most?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh? Look for sure.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I mean you've got to remember that until nineteen ninety two,
South Africa weren't in international rugby because of isolation from apartheid,
so the huge matches for US were always the All Blacks.
As you mentioned, I was lucky enough to play twenty
Tests eighteen for Australia and then I was privileged to
captain a World fifteen against the All Blacks. In your
(03:22):
nineteen ninety two centenary celebrations, so every match I remember
almost like it was yesterday. I think we won seven,
we drew one, and you guys won the rest. But
it was it was amazing. And you know, you've got
to remember everyone thinks that the opposition always stood up
to the Harker. It really wasn't until nineteen eighty seven
(03:43):
that inaugur World Cup year. Not that we played them
in the World Cup, of course, but we played a
one off Test and that was the first time that
any international team actually stood up to the Harker. But
we did that out of respect. I'd much prefer to
be ten meters away eyeballing your opponent and respecting the
great tradition of New Zealand rugby than fifty meters away
(04:04):
and turning you back. And you know Jo's and for
your listeners, that respect was because you're such a great
rugby nation you have been right through the decades. But
as an opponent, you want to send a second message
that we're not going to roll over and die. And
if you're going to be just today, you're gonna have
to play bloody well.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Absolutely brilliant. Who were some of the more formidable players.
You were always aware of and planned for when the
Australian sides you were and played against the All Blacks.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Ah, look, you had amazing packs and what have you.
But I think someone who really revolutionized back row play
was Michael Jones. And at the end of the day,
when you talk about tactics, if Michael Jones played well,
we lost.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
It was that simple, and so a lot of our.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Tactics were around burying him in deep dark places, making
sure that he makes as many tackles as possible and
gets at the bottom of rucks and mall so he
couldn't be in the face of Michael Lyoner, Tim Hoore
and Jason Little Campo. If he was, we basically lost.
In the other guy that we'd often form tactics around,
who's a great mate of mine as Michael is, but
(05:12):
a guy who I catch up with reasonably regularly whenever
I'm in New Zealand or he's over here, is Grant
fox Foxy as well. If he had a great game
or played well, in all likelihood we lost. But we
had to devise our tactics around taking time and space
from Grant and putting him under as much pressure as
we could, And if we did that, we had a
(05:33):
chance of winning.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now, is it true that you and Tim Horan took
a dip in Wellington Harbor after you beat the All
Blacks of the Athletic Park in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
We did, indeed, Jason, We actually we'd had a pack
that had we won in Auckland. We were staying at
the Monde Dezie hotel which was on the harbor, and
we basically said before the match at Eden Park in
nineteen ninety that if we win, we'll.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Sneak down to the harbor and have a dip.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Well, we lost in a close game in Allband, but
I think we're in a nightclub at about one am.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
My wife was there as well. I can assure you
of that.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
But I think I went up to Tim or he
came up to me at about one am and said, well,
we didn't do it in Auckland, but how about we
go down to the harbor And we did that, and
I can assure you it wasn't very warm. And there
are some photos drifting around and I'm not overly proud
of those photos.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I can assure you.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Many of your tests NICA course were alongside the great
Michael Liner. How did you achieve the chemistry you did
with him as a nine ten combo.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Look, I was lucky enough to play my first four
Tests against alongside Mark Ella, the Great Mark Ella, before
he retired at the end of the Grand Slam in
eighty four. And then Michael will switched from twelve to
his more usual position of ten. Of course he played
for Queensland. I played for New South Wales. But somehow
when we came together in that gold jersey, it always
(07:04):
jelledlarly as captain. Michael took so much pressure off me
as the captain because anything outside me, from a scrum
or what have you, he would basically take over. He
would call the shots, so that really took a lot
of pressure off me. If I didn't want to play
a back row move or something closer to the ruck
(07:24):
or mall or scrum, then not. He really took over
from there and that just gave me a lot more
I suppose breathing space to be able to focus on
my role as a scrum half and captain. But he
was a terrific player. We had a great telepathy. I knew,
you know, if he wanted to drift pass or if
(07:45):
he wanted to direct. He was one of those guys
that was insistent on where you hit him, always had
to be sort of on his hip about waist high.
He was pretty particular in relation to that, compared to
someone like Mark Eller, who basically said, Nick, you do
the chucking, I'll do the catching. But look, I played
over fifty Tests with Michael and it was an absolute privilege.
(08:06):
It's wonderful to seeze young fellow coming through, or he's
two young fellas coming through in world rugby.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You both, of course were part of that nineteen ninety
one Rugby World Cup winning side. What were the key
ingredients in that side that lifted the William web Ellis
Trophy in ninety one.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Look, Jason I took over the captaincy in nineteen eighty eight.
In the first couple of years of captaining the Wallabies,
we could be very inconsistent. We could be fantastic one
Saturday and seven days later play like busted bums. What
I think really changed from that important victory at Wellington.
That's when we knew that we could beat the All
(08:45):
Blacks and we could beat anyone on our day, and
to me, we'd lost the Bledislow.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
But that victory that.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Third Test in nineteen ninety was what changed everything. And
I think there's a little bit of comparison with this
Australian team now and the young leader Harry Wilson. Having
won that Third Test, we'd lost the series against the Lines,
but that third Test victory I compared to our victory
nineteen ninety at Wellington, because this team led by Harry
now knows that they can beat anyone on their day.
(09:14):
They proved that at Ella's Park. They of course, you know,
played well against Argentina. To beat the lines in that
third Test convincingly was fantastic and that's why I think
this team will be right up for this match this
afternoon at Eden Park. But to get back to what
I was saying, it was really we had to change
the culture of that team that was very inconsistent to
(09:36):
a team that is what I call process driven. Understand
the process individually and collectively. It goes way beyond the
eighty minutes, but understand what it is in the eighty minutes,
and we became a very consistent team. I think about
the last twenty five Tests I played in the nineties,
we won about twenty two of them, and it was
really that consistency that we developed over that sort of
(09:58):
crucial two three year period.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Is it a source of frustration that the Bledisloe hasn't
been on your side of the ditch now for over
two decades?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Oh, look, I'm pretty sure it is.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
I mean, ask any player who's lost to the All
Blacks and hasn't won a Bledisloe, Ask any Australian fan,
ask the families of the players. Anyone connected to rugby
is hugely frustrated that the Bledisloe hasn't been one. It's
disappointing these days that you know, you don't have three
(10:31):
Test series and so you guys only have to win
the one match to retain it.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
But yeah, this is critical.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
That's why today, this afternoon will be so critical for
Australian rugby that we can go to Perth next weekend
with a live series and have the chance of winning
that Bledisloe because it is one of the great trophies
in world sport and we just haven't had it for
over two decades.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Just had a question come through for you, Nick. I'm
not sure whether you're able to answer it, but can
you please ask Nick his thoughts on cam Roy Guard
and where he sees him in the ranks. Of halfbacks
around the world at the moment. Have you seen itmit
of Cameroy gat No.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Look, I was saying to your producer before our chat
today that I really haven't seen too much of New
Zealand rugby this year, and so I haven't that I'll
I'll be very interested to see how he goes against
Tate McDermott.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
How old is cam Just out of interest?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
He's twenty four, twenty three, twenty.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Four, okay, and he obviously deserves his jersey and a
lot of New Zealander is a raving about him.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I suspect absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know, he's well, he hasn't been in the team
for the last four Test matches. Getting him back for
this one has been seen as a huge boost because
he already has sort of opened up a gap between
he and the next best in his position. So yeah, no,
I think that Battle of the Nines this afternoon, as
a lot of the battles will be nick will be
will be crucial. Yeah, yeah, just to finish and you
(12:02):
mention it there, what would it mean to win this
game this afternoon, for the Wallabies to take the series
to a sold out Perth, and perhaps for the Wallabies
to get their hands back on that coveted price.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
It means everything to us, so I can assure you
of that. And you know, it's been quite amazing since that,
or since the success of the line series financially and
also from the way our team played to see this
team that seems very close. It's not just the team,
it's the squad that Harry Wilson talks about. I think
(12:35):
Wilson's developing into one of the great captains. I think
he'll be around for a long time injury pending, but
it means so much to Australian supporters and the talk
just in the streets that this team is finally developing
into something that could compete for Bledisloy Cups. And you know,
(12:56):
obviously in two years time, World Cup being hosted here
in Australia, and everyone is just very very excited after
the we plummeted to the depths of the twenty twenty
three World Cup, not making the quarter finals. So there's
a very good sentiment drifting around the streets of Sydney
and Brisbane and Perth and Melbourne that this team is
(13:20):
starting to aim up. They really can challenge the best
in the world on their day and it's all about
that consistency.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But this is huge for us.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
There'll be hundreds of thousands of people glued to the tv'
Eden park this afternoon at three o'clock Australian Eastern Seaboard time.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
I can assure you of that, Jason.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Wonderful stuff. Nick. It's so great to have you leading
us off on such a big day on the side
of the Tasman. All the best to you and thanks
for you at your time and your analysis the softernoon.
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Yeah, pleasure Jason. I hope it's a fantastic afternoon. Obviously
we need one result for you guys, not to retain
it but to your listeners enjoy the spectacle.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Wonderful stuff. Nick, now cheers to you too, mate, Nick
Farr Jones. There Gie, what a great man joining us
to lead us off here on bled Us Slow Cup
day in Auckland. Gwynn, says Jason say Heider. Nick, My
daughter and I caught up with him for a bear
at Circular Key in Sydney a few years ago. The
nicest man, a true gentleman. Yeah, you can absolutely tell,
can't your Nigel, says Nick Varr Jones. Sounds like an
(14:23):
absolute champ. Is he really Australian? I think he probably is, Nigel,
I think he probably is. But yeah, but I get
where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
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