September 20, 2025 • 11 mins
The All Blacks are staring down the barrel of two high-pressure tests against the Wallabies.
The Kiwi side took a record thrashing against the Springboks at Sky Stadium earlier this months and the pressure's on for Razor.
Stan Sport commentator Sean Maloney joined Piney to explain further.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And has many fans now more than a touch nervous
about the upcoming Bletterslow Cup tests both at Eden Park
and a cross in Perth. Could the vice like grip
the All Blacks have had on the Bledisloe Cup, which
stretches back well over two decades, be about to loosen?
Massive pleasure to welcome into the show the voice of
the Wallabies on stand Sport and Channel nine, Sean Maloney.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The noises come up a few decibels at Elie Pye O'Connor.
Why to talking? Said he has fross? Have I tring
to do with mats talking? Said rical maas does it again?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Is this really happening?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Talkison's got a cover trail Talks is here, Sazen? How
word is there? Tom Wright's going the other way, Tom right,
Tom rights down the edge, Tod right back in. Tell me,
oh my goodness, this is just true.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
God busys ectasy of the absolute delight for Sean Maloney
who joins us now our congratulations, my first of all
on your passionate and precise calls on Wallaby's matches which
we're very much enjoyed over here. What was your reaction
to the All Blacks record loss though to South Africa
(01:27):
last weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Absolute shock, Absolute shock, So Matte, I'd done that afternoon
game at the Sfswall of These Argentina, and then I
actually had to bounce off to a charity night, so
I checked out at ten to seven half time, and
at the beginning I had to host the night, so
I didn't get that full time score until much much
(01:50):
later than full time, and I was lord by the result.
I couldn't I couldn't work out what had happened, got home,
watched the highlights on Stan and still still now I
can't believe that's what transpired in that second half.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Wild all Blacks now vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, we had no. We had Sunnyville on our show
on between two Posts on stand, which I think Sky
and Zed takes as well. Yep on Monday, and he
rightly highlighted that if he was a part of an
All accentdate lost the game, that they weren't supposed to lose,
(02:29):
or if they got touched up, that it was the
next game was just like. The response was brutal, and
I'm expecting the same again at Eden Park next week.
So vulnerable. No, I think they're going to come out
spitting fire, and I'm I'm not thankful in many ways
(02:49):
for what Africa did last week.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They did, though, have a very very obvious game plan.
They didn't against the All Blacks, which featured a significant
aerial assault. That's not something which is deep in the
DNA of Australian rugby sides. But do you expect that
they will take notice of what's south are it did
and take parts of that into their game for these
next two test matches?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh jeez, that's a good question, mate. I'm going to
probably go no. And you know, while say no, because
we tried that on Argentina and it didn't work out.
It didn't work out at all, throwing those contestables up
and giving Georgo a chance to push through even s
Ali and Corey Tour and I just I reckon the
(03:33):
bounce of ball and those contestibles in that game against
lost Premiers would have gone maybe ninety ten in favor
of them. So I can't see I can't see that
happening again. I don't reckon it will. So it'll mean
that they'll have to come up with more creative ways
to try and puncture that all blacks defense. I'll tell
you what. It shakes up as a great couple of weeks,
(03:55):
doesn't it. I mean, sure, we've had a couple of
stumbles both out sides over these last four rounds, but man,
no man, when both these teams are clicked, it has
been so good to watch aslutely.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh look absolutely, we can't wait for the series. And
I think every game in the Rugby Championship has been
like that. I mean, who picked it? After four games
each everybody would have two wins and two losses. It just,
you know, just wasn't on the radar as far as
the Wallabies are concerned. Sean the win over Fiji to
start things off, then the British and Irish lines too
of course, then the shared tests in South Africa, that
(04:27):
sheared tests against Argentina. It's been a busy old year
for the Wallabies. What have you made of them in
general terms across twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, they are so much improved of so I've come
so far in such a short time under Joe Schmidt.
I mean, mate, last we're saying this the other week,
like you know, if we go back sort of four
day months we were struggling to put away Georgia in
Sydney and we were we had our issues with Wales
(04:57):
for chunks of that series too, So they've just come
so far in such a short period of time. That
trajectory off the back of Fiji was was great and
then obviously we had that little slip in the first
against the Test against the lines. But you know, if
you look at all the other minutes of good stuff
they put together across those games, it's excellent. So they're
(05:21):
going in the right direction. They're well led, they're well coached,
and finally, mate, finally we're getting people in gold jerseys
to games. We've got people in hats and scarfs and
anything else got they can get on. And it has
been I reckon, it's been probably we're going back maybe
(05:41):
twenty years. I must come back to the last time
we hostedly woke up to a game light last weekend
where the crowd was drenched in Wallaby gold. It was
so good to watch love that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Love that Ellis Park. I mean inexplicable scenes there at
Ellice Park. You know, twenty two nil down and then
thirty eight unannced points to win it. Where does that
win sit among the great Australian performances you've seen in
recent times?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh? Easily the best in recent times. I mean I've
got that top five all time. And many of my
colleagues who like Timmy Horn had said to me, he's
the top five all time, and that Blokes won two
World Cups and he's a World Raby Hall of Famer.
Burkeie was the same. Mauves is obviously more recent cut
he's the same. So all of us have it as
(06:32):
a top five win in the history, that long history
of the Wallabies. So mate, we'll never forget it. I
still have people stopped him now in the most random
spots saying, OI, what about that gaming in South Africa?
I was up with you, I was up watching We're
all Up. I woke my neighbor up, I woke my
(06:53):
missus up, or I woke my husband up. Everyone still
wants to talk about that weeks and weeks later.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Who have been the standout players on the wallabyes jersey
for you across the year?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh, there's been some good ones. Jasay's needs some really
good ones we have seen. Okay, we let's start with
the captain. So we're now, we're now, it's irrefutable that
Harry Wilson is that captain going forward. That's that's a
lot and that's important because he was not a lot
going into the Test series here. So Harry Wilson has
(07:26):
been big phrasement rights all the way. Nick Frost I reckon.
Nick Frost is probably one of the premier locks in
world rugby right now? Who else have we got there?
They've all, they've all been really good. Lenniki tau Top
one of the top centers in world rugby, and just
this Max Shuginson one of the top wingers in world rugby.
(07:48):
And I just can't wait to see how far we
can ride this suwer alite train as well made because
he is going more and more into the game of
rugby union and he could be special.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, how care far can we ride that train? Because man,
what a player he could be. What is he twenty
two years old?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, he's young. They're all young. Thatt's the other thing?
What Jorgoes only just turned twenty one. It's crazy. So mate,
let's rite as far as we can. He's looking more
and more dangerous with every touch. Commits plenty of defenders,
looks for work in defense when he's doing the tackling.
(08:26):
He's just quality, mane. He's just quality all the way through.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now you all know these stats. The last time anyone
beat the All Blacks of Eden Park was nineteen ninety four.
The last time Australia did it was nineteen eighty six. Yeah,
what would it mean to break that record and put
a hand on the Bleeder Slow Cup next weekend?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's funny you ask that. I've been trying to wrestle
with the idea of it being close or going close,
and it would mean plenty, But it won't mean I mean,
and I say this absolutely respectfully with the deepest respective
won't mean anything unless they can I mean, should they
(09:04):
fluke the wind over there? Because I'll be I mean,
I'll be massive. I've guys will be massive underdogs that game,
as you'd expect and as they should be. But if
they can somehow, I don't know, pull something out and
then we go to Perth with the Bloods on the line,
if they then come on stuck in Perth, it's it's
going to be a disaster. So it won't mean anyone
(09:27):
he cares about is trying to get that damn trophy back.
So one win will be like, oh, that's great, but
unless they get it back, it won't mean. It won't
mean a whole lot, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Can I just finish with Josh Matt You alluded to
him before and the evolution that he's overseen in this
Wallaby side. Is there any chance he'll continue on in
some way, shape or form when liz Kus takes over
full time.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know what the transfer or the handoff looks like,
but I do know those who know each other particularly well,
and they're very similar in terms of the way that
they can extract the best of their players and can
really I guess guide them to lofty heights. So they'll
(10:13):
be they'll let's try and do the calendar going forward,
so we'd be looking at yes, so let's won and
take over till July next year, so there'll be that
whole year where Joe will still be I believe in
the employee of Roby Australia handing all that info off.
So I don't know what looks like beyond that, mate,
(10:36):
but as long as he brings leeds up to speed
him already to go from July next year, then that
should be sweet.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, and the wild Couple be looming by that stage
and exciting. We can't wait to have you over here
next weekend for the Eden Park tire Shawan. Thanks for
joining us across New Zealand today.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Though legend see mate, see you mate.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That a Sean Maloney Voice of the Wallabies, the excitable
voice of the Wallabies. I thought he was trying to
play that down just ever so slightly there. I thought
he might be a bit more bullish, but then again,
I guess as he said. He quoted Sunny All There
from one of their shows over in Australia in the
last week. The response to an unexpected defeat or are
(11:14):
toweling up when you're in the All Blacks is brutal.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And has many fans now more than a touch nervous
about the upcoming Bletterslow Cup tests both at Eden Park
and a cross in Perth. Could the vice like grip
the All Blacks have had on the Bledisloe Cup, which
stretches back well over two decades, be about to loosen?
Massive pleasure to welcome into the show the voice of
the Wallabies on stand Sport and Channel nine, Sean Maloney.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The noises come up a few decibels at Elie Pye O'Connor.
Why to talking? Said he has fross? Have I tring
to do with mats talking? Said rical maas does it again?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Is this really happening?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Talkison's got a cover trail Talks is here, Sazen? How
word is there? Tom Wright's going the other way, Tom right,
Tom rights down the edge, Tod right back in. Tell me,
oh my goodness, this is just true.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
God busys ectasy of the absolute delight for Sean Maloney
who joins us now our congratulations, my first of all
on your passionate and precise calls on Wallaby's matches which
we're very much enjoyed over here. What was your reaction
to the All Blacks record loss though to South Africa
(01:27):
last weekend?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Absolute shock, Absolute shock, So Matte, I'd done that afternoon
game at the Sfswall of These Argentina, and then I
actually had to bounce off to a charity night, so
I checked out at ten to seven half time, and
at the beginning I had to host the night, so
I didn't get that full time score until much much
(01:50):
later than full time, and I was lord by the result.
I couldn't I couldn't work out what had happened, got home,
watched the highlights on Stan and still still now I
can't believe that's what transpired in that second half.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Wild all Blacks now vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, we had no. We had Sunnyville on our show
on between two Posts on stand, which I think Sky
and Zed takes as well. Yep on Monday, and he
rightly highlighted that if he was a part of an
All accentdate lost the game, that they weren't supposed to lose,
(02:29):
or if they got touched up, that it was the
next game was just like. The response was brutal, and
I'm expecting the same again at Eden Park next week.
So vulnerable. No, I think they're going to come out
spitting fire, and I'm I'm not thankful in many ways
(02:49):
for what Africa did last week.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
They did, though, have a very very obvious game plan.
They didn't against the All Blacks, which featured a significant
aerial assault. That's not something which is deep in the
DNA of Australian rugby sides. But do you expect that
they will take notice of what's south are it did
and take parts of that into their game for these
next two test matches?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Oh jeez, that's a good question, mate. I'm going to
probably go no. And you know, while say no, because
we tried that on Argentina and it didn't work out.
It didn't work out at all, throwing those contestables up
and giving Georgo a chance to push through even s
Ali and Corey Tour and I just I reckon the
(03:33):
bounce of ball and those contestibles in that game against
lost Premiers would have gone maybe ninety ten in favor
of them. So I can't see I can't see that
happening again. I don't reckon it will. So it'll mean
that they'll have to come up with more creative ways
to try and puncture that all blacks defense. I'll tell
you what. It shakes up as a great couple of weeks,
(03:55):
doesn't it. I mean, sure, we've had a couple of
stumbles both out sides over these last four rounds, but man,
no man, when both these teams are clicked, it has
been so good to watch aslutely.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh look absolutely, we can't wait for the series. And
I think every game in the Rugby Championship has been
like that. I mean, who picked it? After four games
each everybody would have two wins and two losses. It just,
you know, just wasn't on the radar as far as
the Wallabies are concerned. Sean the win over Fiji to
start things off, then the British and Irish lines too
of course, then the shared tests in South Africa, that
(04:27):
sheared tests against Argentina. It's been a busy old year
for the Wallabies. What have you made of them in
general terms across twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Well, they are so much improved of so I've come
so far in such a short time under Joe Schmidt.
I mean, mate, last we're saying this the other week,
like you know, if we go back sort of four
day months we were struggling to put away Georgia in
Sydney and we were we had our issues with Wales
(04:57):
for chunks of that series too, So they've just come
so far in such a short period of time. That
trajectory off the back of Fiji was was great and
then obviously we had that little slip in the first
against the Test against the lines. But you know, if
you look at all the other minutes of good stuff
they put together across those games, it's excellent. So they're
(05:21):
going in the right direction. They're well led, they're well coached,
and finally, mate, finally we're getting people in gold jerseys
to games. We've got people in hats and scarfs and
anything else got they can get on. And it has
been I reckon, it's been probably we're going back maybe
(05:41):
twenty years. I must come back to the last time
we hostedly woke up to a game light last weekend
where the crowd was drenched in Wallaby gold. It was
so good to watch love that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Love that Ellis Park. I mean inexplicable scenes there at
Ellice Park. You know, twenty two nil down and then
thirty eight unannced points to win it. Where does that
win sit among the great Australian performances you've seen in
recent times?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh? Easily the best in recent times. I mean I've
got that top five all time. And many of my
colleagues who like Timmy Horn had said to me, he's
the top five all time, and that Blokes won two
World Cups and he's a World Raby Hall of Famer.
Burkeie was the same. Mauves is obviously more recent cut
he's the same. So all of us have it as
(06:32):
a top five win in the history, that long history
of the Wallabies. So mate, we'll never forget it. I
still have people stopped him now in the most random
spots saying, OI, what about that gaming in South Africa?
I was up with you, I was up watching We're
all Up. I woke my neighbor up, I woke my
(06:53):
missus up, or I woke my husband up. Everyone still
wants to talk about that weeks and weeks later.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Who have been the standout players on the wallabyes jersey
for you across the year?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Oh, there's been some good ones. Jasay's needs some really
good ones we have seen. Okay, we let's start with
the captain. So we're now, we're now, it's irrefutable that
Harry Wilson is that captain going forward. That's that's a
lot and that's important because he was not a lot
going into the Test series here. So Harry Wilson has
(07:26):
been big phrasement rights all the way. Nick Frost I reckon.
Nick Frost is probably one of the premier locks in
world rugby right now? Who else have we got there?
They've all, they've all been really good. Lenniki tau Top
one of the top centers in world rugby, and just
this Max Shuginson one of the top wingers in world rugby.
(07:48):
And I just can't wait to see how far we
can ride this suwer alite train as well made because
he is going more and more into the game of
rugby union and he could be special.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, how care far can we ride that train? Because man,
what a player he could be. What is he twenty
two years old?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, he's young. They're all young. Thatt's the other thing?
What Jorgoes only just turned twenty one. It's crazy. So mate,
let's rite as far as we can. He's looking more
and more dangerous with every touch. Commits plenty of defenders,
looks for work in defense when he's doing the tackling.
(08:26):
He's just quality, mane. He's just quality all the way through.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now you all know these stats. The last time anyone
beat the All Blacks of Eden Park was nineteen ninety four.
The last time Australia did it was nineteen eighty six. Yeah,
what would it mean to break that record and put
a hand on the Bleeder Slow Cup next weekend?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's funny you ask that. I've been trying to wrestle
with the idea of it being close or going close,
and it would mean plenty, But it won't mean I mean,
and I say this absolutely respectfully with the deepest respective
won't mean anything unless they can I mean, should they
(09:04):
fluke the wind over there? Because I'll be I mean,
I'll be massive. I've guys will be massive underdogs that game,
as you'd expect and as they should be. But if
they can somehow, I don't know, pull something out and
then we go to Perth with the Bloods on the line,
if they then come on stuck in Perth, it's it's
going to be a disaster. So it won't mean anyone
(09:27):
he cares about is trying to get that damn trophy back.
So one win will be like, oh, that's great, but
unless they get it back, it won't mean. It won't
mean a whole lot, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Can I just finish with Josh Matt You alluded to
him before and the evolution that he's overseen in this
Wallaby side. Is there any chance he'll continue on in
some way, shape or form when liz Kus takes over
full time.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't know what the transfer or the handoff looks like,
but I do know those who know each other particularly well,
and they're very similar in terms of the way that
they can extract the best of their players and can
really I guess guide them to lofty heights. So they'll
(10:13):
be they'll let's try and do the calendar going forward,
so we'd be looking at yes, so let's won and
take over till July next year, so there'll be that
whole year where Joe will still be I believe in
the employee of Roby Australia handing all that info off.
So I don't know what looks like beyond that, mate,
(10:36):
but as long as he brings leeds up to speed
him already to go from July next year, then that
should be sweet.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, and the wild Couple be looming by that stage
and exciting. We can't wait to have you over here
next weekend for the Eden Park tire Shawan. Thanks for
joining us across New Zealand today.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Though legend see mate, see you mate.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That a Sean Maloney Voice of the Wallabies, the excitable
voice of the Wallabies. I thought he was trying to
play that down just ever so slightly there. I thought
he might be a bit more bullish, but then again,
I guess as he said. He quoted Sunny All There
from one of their shows over in Australia in the
last week. The response to an unexpected defeat or are
(11:14):
toweling up when you're in the All Blacks is brutal.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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