September 14, 2024 • 11 mins
There's a nervous mood among fans as the Wellington Lions face off against the Tasman Mako for the Ranfurly Shield.
Nelson Bays life member Shane Drummond joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks edb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Barata towards the Uprights and that's over Tasmin Tasmond when
for renfairly.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Shield now I reckon the liver gets sick of listening
to that. Top of the South. A huge supporter of
rugby in the Tasman region is Nelson businessman Shane Drummond.
Former Tasman President board member now a life member, has
done a massive amount for rugby in the Top of
the South and for the community as well. He's at
the game or about to watch the game unfold Drummy,
(00:45):
how are the nerves?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I could ask the known Piney. You know, I'm sitting
in the boardroom on them all on the own, so
I'm getting huge listenership.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Are you nervous?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah? Yeah, Well, unfortunately I was in South Africa on
the All Back tour of last week and I watched
it in a hotel room with me computer hook up
the four G to me TV and with Gary Monroe,
and may I tell you what I was, Yeah, it
was hard work being so far and being so close
and of course here that Jimmy Ta Tava noa wh
(01:21):
I steal. At the end, we give all the accolade
to the kicker. We wouldn't have been able to kick
it without Mighty Jimmy getting the opportunity. And then yeah,
the young fellow stood up with Campbell Parrada and kept it.
He's not a bad kicker. It's between you and I.
And yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
How special was it to finally get the ran Philly
shield to to the to the Tasman region. I know
it's been in Marlborough, but you know, first time in Nelson.
How special a week hasn't been.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's been unlivable Piney. You know, we've been going eighteen
years and I was one of the in shaviors of
the union men Max Spence, with the two Nelson people,
but joining with Marlboro to make Tesman, which is what
it's all about. Now it's no longer Nelson, it's no
longer Malboro. It is Tessmand and it's given our young
people have great opportunity. And over the years we've been
(02:10):
able to get to you know, one thing, one year
we had seven or eight all books and the all
Black squads. So they are all important and really really
nice things to have but we've never had the rankfully shield.
And I've been to the four previous challenges and maybe
on the on the on the bad things.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Maybe you're maybe you're the issue.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm here on you before you had to say it.
So yeah, and you know, for us, it's it's overly spentual.
We've won the you know, we've come from third division
and then joined as I say, with Marble to become
Tasman and we've won won the NBC competition. So you know,
there major steps in such a short time and and
(02:58):
and amalgamating and being a success like this is quite
special because others have failed. And yeah, it's just it's
special for both communities. And you know, we've got to
sold out park at the hands down today and I'm
just watching them still ramping in. You know, I just hope,
like something that we do retain it and we get
(03:19):
Nelson the opportunity to benefit for a defense like this.
It's the day here in Marlboro at the moment is beautiful.
The ground is stunning. There's no very little wind effort
all I can't see any at the moment, which has
again been in the past been a bit of a
mold away. It's beautiful here, So here let the challenge begin.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Indeed, and can you just remind us from me about
the amalgamation or the genesis of the amalgamation, would you say,
eighteen sixteen, eighteen years ago? Was there any was there
any opposition to it at the time?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Oh? Yes, there was is fear to say, piney and
guide emotions with your particular unions. And Marlborough is a
very proud union and they did Homer Shield and you
know Nelson Macever did and then we had ownership of
grounds and because they Marlborough owned Landsdown Park they don't
now and of course Nelson is to put the park
(04:17):
which is owned by the council. We're all sorts of
different things with emotions with with you know, players, officials,
past players, and they're all things that you'd expect and
you'd hopeful because the challenge of amalgamating is taking on
the challenge and letting people's emotions you get amongst it.
(04:38):
But you know, if you look back now, you know
you walk down the street of Blenn and Moore Nelson,
and you know you ask if they're not already in
marco gare if you ask them, you know, what would
you like to be, and they would like to be
at Marco. These kids, they don't want to play for
Nelson Base the same as they would were Marlborough. They
want to be a marker. They want to be on
the national stage. And you know, we've given them those
(05:01):
kids that opportunity to develop and come through and to
see guys like David Billy, you know, and all the
you know, Ethan Black Headers and all the All Blacks
that we've had over the last couple of years and
still I haven't and guys that are on the fringes.
You know, you look at a guy like Fundo Christie,
you know he's sort of a current all back but
(05:22):
not at the moment. And young Noah Holsome's taking a
spot booking who is a Tasman player. So you know,
that's great to see those guys coming and giving it
a crack in the Tasman area, then making the mark
and then becoming super players and the ultimate to wear
the All Black food.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Indeed, I see your CEO Steve Mitchell and William HARVILLI
brought the shield into one of your places of business
during the week. You would have enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, I've been again. Not only was our part of
setting up the union right in two thousand and five
when we established in two thousand and six, but I've
been an Augle sponsor right from the start and still
are pining and proud of that. And yeah, when I
got off the plane on Tuesday, Steve had already emailed
men said that Wednesday morning at nine point thirty wholeby
(06:12):
coming around with a player and it was well because
he got a head knock and is unable to play
today and bring the shield ground to be able to
put it in front of our staff and the few
people that were around. Those are special occasions and lots
of the businesses and Nelson, Marlborough, Golden Bay, and it
went over to Sturge and Matchuacre. That great occasions for
(06:32):
everybody in the community to be a part of. And
rather than sitting at in the Union and the odd
person seeing it, they took it on the road around
It's all those areas, which was pretty cool for the
public to be able to hold it, see it, touch
it and have photos with it and with the players.
So that's cool. And yeah, I am excited to have
it because it's the first time we have had it,
and I hope you know, I know you're up and
(06:53):
well into now, but you've been down our way for
a long time in the past. I hope for the
good of rugby that we're able to retain it, and
certainly finds up that we do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Look, I said at the top of the show, I
kind of it's a no lose situation for me, and
a big part of me, drumming does hope that it
stays where it is, because you know, a week doesn't
seem long enough. We had Quintin Strange on the show
right at the start of the show and he talked
about taking it over to Collingwood, you know, and and
the far flung places like that. You know, I mean,
you won back to back MPC titles in twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty without you know, actually openly saying it. Do
(07:24):
you reckon? Most people would say, okay, well, if we
keep the shield for the summer, we don't mind too
much if we don't win the NPC this year.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, well, I think you and I would have that opinion,
and I do have that opinion. I'd rather have that
now because we've it. You know, they're not that we
don't want to win the competition because we do. And
you know what on occasion today pointing the two only
unbeaten teams playing for the Anthony Shield, that's that's crazy stats.
You know, who would have packed that at the start
(07:54):
of the year. You know that we went to Hawks
boy and to win it, and then we're playing the
only unbeaten team here today. You wouldn't pick those things.
And it's a great occasion because yeah, we're going to
be playing probably on paper, the best team in the
competition who is leading it with us, So let's not
lose sight. You know, it's not going to be easy,
but I would like to think the adrenaline and just
(08:17):
holding it. You know, we'll get these guys up. And
if you saw what happened to Hawk's play last night,
you know, I'm sure they have they with the shield
was on the line against y Kado last night. You know,
I beg to differ, but they probably would have played
it a little bit different. Losing it is tough, but
having it, you know, I'd like to think that it
holds a lot for these guys and certainly of this community.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well, you've passed about five or six minutes or closer
to ten minutes. I've managed to pass ten minutes of
your time getting closer to kickoff, Drummy, I'll let you
go and mix and mingle. Hope. It's an awesome afternoon mate.
Thanks for taking our call.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, well, thank you very much for being part of it.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Play man finds up as they say, drumming fins up.
Shane Drummond, well known in the Top of the South,
huge supporter of sport, huge supporter of rugby and a
guy who has basically puted money where his mouth is
in terms of a support for the game of rugby
and the really just community, not just sport, but all
parts of the Nelson community. A very very good man.
(09:17):
And look he's right. I'm from Wellington, as I said
at the start of the show, born and bred in Wellington.
Was there when when Wayne Smith took an office in
nineteen eighty one, is scoring a try in Bernie's corner
at Athletic Park. And I was delighted when we got
it back. Was that two thousand and eight, when we
(09:39):
won it back a couple of years ago. Loved it,
loved having it here, loved being in and around it.
But it just feels to me as though, Look, if
Wellington won at this afternoon, great, but if Tasmen hold
on to it and have the opportunity to spread it
around a little bit more in the next couple of weeks,
I'm just having a look at forward as to what
their next challenge would be if they were to win
(10:01):
this afternoon and defend it. They've got a couple of
away games, so obviously that does go on the line there.
They play White Cuttle and then Otago over the next
two weekends, then a home game a midweek home game,
so we'd have a midweek shield challenge when Auckland come
to Trafalga Park in Nelson on Wednesday the second of October,
(10:23):
and should they defend it there, then four days later
they'll be back at Trafalga Park with Tartanaki coming to
pay a visit. So that would be the path to
holding on to the ran Furley Shield for the summer.
For Tasman, they need to win this afternoon, beat Auckland
on the second of October, and beat Taranaki on the
sixth of October, because, as we know, once we get
to Semison Final, the ran Furley Shield does not become
(10:46):
part of that, it sits in the trophy cabinet of
the team that finishes the regular season with it. We're
about fifteen minutes away from kickoff in Blenham. If you
want to catch a full commentary, we have it for
you on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday. Follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks edb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Barata towards the Uprights and that's over Tasmin Tasmond when
for renfairly.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Shield now I reckon the liver gets sick of listening
to that. Top of the South. A huge supporter of
rugby in the Tasman region is Nelson businessman Shane Drummond.
Former Tasman President board member now a life member, has
done a massive amount for rugby in the Top of
the South and for the community as well. He's at
the game or about to watch the game unfold Drummy,
(00:45):
how are the nerves?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I could ask the known Piney. You know, I'm sitting
in the boardroom on them all on the own, so
I'm getting huge listenership.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Are you nervous?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah? Yeah, Well, unfortunately I was in South Africa on
the All Back tour of last week and I watched
it in a hotel room with me computer hook up
the four G to me TV and with Gary Monroe,
and may I tell you what I was, Yeah, it
was hard work being so far and being so close
and of course here that Jimmy Ta Tava noa wh
(01:21):
I steal. At the end, we give all the accolade
to the kicker. We wouldn't have been able to kick
it without Mighty Jimmy getting the opportunity. And then yeah,
the young fellow stood up with Campbell Parrada and kept it.
He's not a bad kicker. It's between you and I.
And yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
How special was it to finally get the ran Philly
shield to to the to the Tasman region. I know
it's been in Marlborough, but you know, first time in Nelson.
How special a week hasn't been.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's been unlivable Piney. You know, we've been going eighteen
years and I was one of the in shaviors of
the union men Max Spence, with the two Nelson people,
but joining with Marlboro to make Tesman, which is what
it's all about. Now it's no longer Nelson, it's no
longer Malboro. It is Tessmand and it's given our young
people have great opportunity. And over the years we've been
(02:10):
able to get to you know, one thing, one year
we had seven or eight all books and the all
Black squads. So they are all important and really really
nice things to have but we've never had the rankfully shield.
And I've been to the four previous challenges and maybe
on the on the on the bad things.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Maybe you're maybe you're the issue.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm here on you before you had to say it.
So yeah, and you know, for us, it's it's overly spentual.
We've won the you know, we've come from third division
and then joined as I say, with Marble to become
Tasman and we've won won the NBC competition. So you know,
there major steps in such a short time and and
(02:58):
and amalgamating and being a success like this is quite
special because others have failed. And yeah, it's just it's
special for both communities. And you know, we've got to
sold out park at the hands down today and I'm
just watching them still ramping in. You know, I just hope,
like something that we do retain it and we get
(03:19):
Nelson the opportunity to benefit for a defense like this.
It's the day here in Marlboro at the moment is beautiful.
The ground is stunning. There's no very little wind effort
all I can't see any at the moment, which has
again been in the past been a bit of a
mold away. It's beautiful here, So here let the challenge begin.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Indeed, and can you just remind us from me about
the amalgamation or the genesis of the amalgamation, would you say,
eighteen sixteen, eighteen years ago? Was there any was there
any opposition to it at the time?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Oh? Yes, there was is fear to say, piney and
guide emotions with your particular unions. And Marlborough is a
very proud union and they did Homer Shield and you
know Nelson Macever did and then we had ownership of
grounds and because they Marlborough owned Landsdown Park they don't
now and of course Nelson is to put the park
(04:17):
which is owned by the council. We're all sorts of
different things with emotions with with you know, players, officials,
past players, and they're all things that you'd expect and
you'd hopeful because the challenge of amalgamating is taking on
the challenge and letting people's emotions you get amongst it.
(04:38):
But you know, if you look back now, you know
you walk down the street of Blenn and Moore Nelson,
and you know you ask if they're not already in
marco gare if you ask them, you know, what would
you like to be, and they would like to be
at Marco. These kids, they don't want to play for
Nelson Base the same as they would were Marlborough. They
want to be a marker. They want to be on
the national stage. And you know, we've given them those
(05:01):
kids that opportunity to develop and come through and to
see guys like David Billy, you know, and all the
you know, Ethan Black Headers and all the All Blacks
that we've had over the last couple of years and
still I haven't and guys that are on the fringes.
You know, you look at a guy like Fundo Christie,
you know he's sort of a current all back but
(05:22):
not at the moment. And young Noah Holsome's taking a
spot booking who is a Tasman player. So you know,
that's great to see those guys coming and giving it
a crack in the Tasman area, then making the mark
and then becoming super players and the ultimate to wear
the All Black food.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Indeed, I see your CEO Steve Mitchell and William HARVILLI
brought the shield into one of your places of business
during the week. You would have enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, I've been again. Not only was our part of
setting up the union right in two thousand and five
when we established in two thousand and six, but I've
been an Augle sponsor right from the start and still
are pining and proud of that. And yeah, when I
got off the plane on Tuesday, Steve had already emailed
men said that Wednesday morning at nine point thirty wholeby
(06:12):
coming around with a player and it was well because
he got a head knock and is unable to play
today and bring the shield ground to be able to
put it in front of our staff and the few
people that were around. Those are special occasions and lots
of the businesses and Nelson, Marlborough, Golden Bay, and it
went over to Sturge and Matchuacre. That great occasions for
(06:32):
everybody in the community to be a part of. And
rather than sitting at in the Union and the odd
person seeing it, they took it on the road around
It's all those areas, which was pretty cool for the
public to be able to hold it, see it, touch
it and have photos with it and with the players.
So that's cool. And yeah, I am excited to have
it because it's the first time we have had it,
and I hope you know, I know you're up and
(06:53):
well into now, but you've been down our way for
a long time in the past. I hope for the
good of rugby that we're able to retain it, and
certainly finds up that we do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Look, I said at the top of the show, I
kind of it's a no lose situation for me, and
a big part of me, drumming does hope that it
stays where it is, because you know, a week doesn't
seem long enough. We had Quintin Strange on the show
right at the start of the show and he talked
about taking it over to Collingwood, you know, and and
the far flung places like that. You know, I mean,
you won back to back MPC titles in twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty without you know, actually openly saying it. Do
(07:24):
you reckon? Most people would say, okay, well, if we
keep the shield for the summer, we don't mind too
much if we don't win the NPC this year.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, well, I think you and I would have that opinion,
and I do have that opinion. I'd rather have that
now because we've it. You know, they're not that we
don't want to win the competition because we do. And
you know what on occasion today pointing the two only
unbeaten teams playing for the Anthony Shield, that's that's crazy stats.
You know, who would have packed that at the start
(07:54):
of the year. You know that we went to Hawks
boy and to win it, and then we're playing the
only unbeaten team here today. You wouldn't pick those things.
And it's a great occasion because yeah, we're going to
be playing probably on paper, the best team in the
competition who is leading it with us, So let's not
lose sight. You know, it's not going to be easy,
but I would like to think the adrenaline and just
(08:17):
holding it. You know, we'll get these guys up. And
if you saw what happened to Hawk's play last night,
you know, I'm sure they have they with the shield
was on the line against y Kado last night. You know,
I beg to differ, but they probably would have played
it a little bit different. Losing it is tough, but
having it, you know, I'd like to think that it
holds a lot for these guys and certainly of this community.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well, you've passed about five or six minutes or closer
to ten minutes. I've managed to pass ten minutes of
your time getting closer to kickoff, Drummy, I'll let you
go and mix and mingle. Hope. It's an awesome afternoon mate.
Thanks for taking our call.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, well, thank you very much for being part of it.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Play man finds up as they say, drumming fins up.
Shane Drummond, well known in the Top of the South,
huge supporter of sport, huge supporter of rugby and a
guy who has basically puted money where his mouth is
in terms of a support for the game of rugby
and the really just community, not just sport, but all
parts of the Nelson community. A very very good man.
(09:17):
And look he's right. I'm from Wellington, as I said
at the start of the show, born and bred in Wellington.
Was there when when Wayne Smith took an office in
nineteen eighty one, is scoring a try in Bernie's corner
at Athletic Park. And I was delighted when we got
it back. Was that two thousand and eight, when we
(09:39):
won it back a couple of years ago. Loved it,
loved having it here, loved being in and around it.
But it just feels to me as though, Look, if
Wellington won at this afternoon, great, but if Tasmen hold
on to it and have the opportunity to spread it
around a little bit more in the next couple of weeks,
I'm just having a look at forward as to what
their next challenge would be if they were to win
(10:01):
this afternoon and defend it. They've got a couple of
away games, so obviously that does go on the line there.
They play White Cuttle and then Otago over the next
two weekends, then a home game a midweek home game,
so we'd have a midweek shield challenge when Auckland come
to Trafalga Park in Nelson on Wednesday the second of October,
(10:23):
and should they defend it there, then four days later
they'll be back at Trafalga Park with Tartanaki coming to
pay a visit. So that would be the path to
holding on to the ran Furley Shield for the summer.
For Tasman, they need to win this afternoon, beat Auckland
on the second of October, and beat Taranaki on the
sixth of October, because, as we know, once we get
to Semison Final, the ran Furley Shield does not become
(10:46):
part of that, it sits in the trophy cabinet of
the team that finishes the regular season with it. We're
about fifteen minutes away from kickoff in Blenham. If you
want to catch a full commentary, we have it for
you on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday. Follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
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