Tim Southee has started his post-playing career, signing on to be a skills consultant for the England cricket team.
He’s working alongside former captain Brendon McCullum.
Piney caught up with Southee to see how the new gig is going.
“It's a different kind of buzz you get to when you're playing, but it's certainly, certainly a nice feeling when you when you work with someone and you see them go out and do well.”
LISTEN ABOVE
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Tim Southey has linked up with his former Black Caps
captain Brendon McCullum as part of England's coaching staff across formats,
taking on a short term contract as specialist skills consultant.
Tim Southey of course, retired from international cricket after England's
two to one series win here in New Zealand in December,
(00:33):
ending a sixteen year career that included a national record
seven hundred and seventy six wickets across international formats. Tim
Southe is with us. Tim, I want to talk about
your new role in a moment, but with the benefit
of some time and space to reflect a few months
to reflect on your international career, how do you look
(00:54):
back on it in general terms?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, it was an honor to represent his owner.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Is all I ever wanted to do is a kid,
was to play sport and to be to do it
for things Yland and across through formats for a for
a long period of time, it was an etflute pleasure
and a joy to represent our country on the world stage.
And yeah, there was some some tough times through that
through that period, there's some some good times, but but
(01:23):
it's it was just a real, real honor to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was a child of dream and I was very
fortunate to be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And I've got nearly seventy years of memories to so,
I guess look back on for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So it's yeah, a real, real privilege to have been
able to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Are there any things that you are especially proud of.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I think just just being able to represent our country.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And to be able to do it in the world stage.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And I guess for such a small country, such a
proud sporting country, and the things that we're able to
achieve the side during that time what was pretty special.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
We boxed above our.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Weight so of times, and yeah, it's just a privilege
to be a part of. But yeah, just I think
just the the ability and the chance to represent his
Zellen and to be able to do it for for
a long period of time, and the friendships you make
and the memories you create during that time are things
(02:25):
that will will have it you forever.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
As you're playing, are you able to, I don't know,
enjoy the success, be proud of the success as it's happening.
Or you know, with games coming thick and fast in
both formats or all three formats in your case, are
you just sort of onto the next pretty much, and
it might actually take a bit of time, you know,
even than the years ahead for you to actually reflect
on what you achieved.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I guess even now you sort of you have
moments for you look back and you you reflect on it.
But it's like I say, you've got the memories that
you'll you'll you'll flash back on for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But I think in the moment you enjoy it. I
think you have to enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, you learn from the bad, you enjoy the good
and keep trying to improve. But the amount of games
that we played and how they came thick and fast,
it was I guess hard too. But you had moments
at the end of series or down time to be
able to look back on and reflect and move forward
as well and enjoy those moments. I think you've got
(03:24):
to enjoy those those small moments as well throughout throughout
throughout your career. And like I say, they went all
all good times. But I think the tough times make
the good times even better.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Cricket is a game that can take you, as you've mentioned,
on a bit of a roller coaster sometimes. What were
your strategies for dealing with the times that that didn't
go quite the way that you would have hoped.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I think been so young coming to the side, you
had to I had to learn pretty quick to deal
with I guess success and fadure and and if you
didn't then I guess you'd find yourself out of the sight.
So it's something I guess you accept and you always
looking at ways to improve and out of the side
a lot, especially early on, and each time you come
(04:10):
back and each time you have a chance to represent, Yeah,
I just want to want to be a little bitter
from each moment, whether it was where it's good or bad,
and just trying to I guess represent New Zealand proudly
and and in in a style that that people can
sit back and watch and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Were you stats driven numbers driven during your career.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Not particularly, I think you have a Yeah, it's a
it's a game that's numbers are such a big part
of They certainly drive me, but you're sort of you're
aware of of of stats, and especially nowadays with with
the amount of social media and the amount of things
that you see, you're sort of you're aware of them.
But it certainly wasn't something that that I was driven by.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So you got a new gig now at the moment anyway,
a short term gig with England Special Skills consultant. That
sounds pretty lash. How did this come about?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, it was an opportunity that it presented itself and
had I had lunch with Brendan and he he he
proposed it to me, and I thought it was just
a great opportunity, too good opportunity to to I guess
not take up. Not many people get to get the
opportunity straight out of his national cricket to walk in
(05:29):
and I guess give back to the game in.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
A way at the at the highest level.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It's a game that's given me everything that I've gotten
and given me so much, and if I can give
back in a way, then I thought, well, well why not.
So I looked at it and spoke to Brendan and
and had to how to think about it, And yeah,
I looked at the bowlers and the side that the
England England side had and it's it's it's an exciting
time for them and there's there's plenty of talent here
(05:55):
to to to work with. So I think it was
just an opportunity that was was too good not to
not to turn down.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So what does the role specifically involved? What are you
doing on a day today? Basis while you're in camp
with England?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Just we're.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
With with the bowlers, helping, helping out way we had
a were the camp pre before that and now we're
into a white Wall series against to West Cindy. So yeah,
just working with their bowlers, trying to I guess, trying
to assist them in any way I can.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
As Brendan McCullum the coach the same as Brendan McCullum
the captain.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, I think Brendan mcallums a pretty pretty sort of solid,
solid guy.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
He doesn't doesn't change too much.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
He's done great things, see great things for us as
a as a side when he took over as captain
and I guess transformed us into the side we are now.
That the success we had under him and the success
we have now all started when he took over as captain.
So he's been an unbelievable way of managing people and
getting the best out of people, and that's no different
(07:04):
than his in his coaching stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And well, your your role with England has start a
pretty well beginnings win and the one off test against
some Babwe, big victory in the first od I against
the West Indies. You've got tests against India coming up,
which is an exciting prospect. Can you get the same
buzz from coaching as you did from playing.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, it's it's obviously early on, it's it's a different
it's a different buzz when you're out there they're playing.
It's slightly different to to I guess a more sit
back approach as to as to what's actually happening out there.
But I guess you take take joy and take pleasure
out of the work you put in with the guys
pre games and then the round games and then seeing
(07:49):
them go out and have success. It's a it's a
different kind of buzz you get to when you're playing.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
But it's certainly certainly.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
A nice feeling when you work with someone and you
see them go out and do well. So it's yeah,
it's it's it's different but it's it's also nice and
like I said, it's great to be able to give
back to a game that's that's given me so much.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And you've still got white ball commitments obviously Birmingham Phoenix
coming up and the Men's hundred and presumably some more
white ball opportunities beyond that when you do finally stop playing,
can you see yourself going into coaching full time?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, I wasn't too too sure what.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Where the where the path of take me post post cricket,
and this is obviously an opportunity to to get.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
A monkst coaching and give it a go.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, still got a couple of playing commitments in around
and around that, which is which is which is great.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
As well to still be still be able to play
the game that I love.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And yeah, it's I've got time to I guess figure
out what's what's next. But I'm enjoying this this at
the moment, And like I said, it's nice to be
able to give back to the game.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Do you reckon you'll ever move completely away from the game,
do something completely different?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
So that's all I've known since I was eighteen years old,
or since I left school. So it's yeah, it's we
know so much and I guess the knowledge about the.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Game that.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
It's a game I love, it's a game I care about.
So yeah, I honestly don't know the answer to that
right now.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All right, we've got plenty of time to think about that.
You've got a bit of coaching, but of playing still
to go. Look all the best for the rest of
this little gig with England and beyond, and look forward
to catching up once you back home. Thanks for that, pony,
Thank you, Tim, Tim Southie there joining us out of England.
Good to get the chance to catch up first time.
I think of Jttletim since his international retirement. So obviously
plenty going on for Tim Soudy in that coaching role
(09:43):
and then on with some more white ball cricket. So
his career will be Elong Gate. It'd be interesting to
see where he ends up, Tim Saudi, whether it's a
coaching gig, perhaps in one of these white ball franchises
around the place.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
They siding me.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Plenty of jobs at the moment, don't there for cricket coaches.
But yeah, good to get the chance to catch up
with Tim Southe.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to news talks at B Weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Tim Southey has linked up with his former Black Caps
captain Brendon McCullum as part of England's coaching staff across formats,
taking on a short term contract as specialist skills consultant.
Tim Southey of course, retired from international cricket after England's
two to one series win here in New Zealand in December,
(00:33):
ending a sixteen year career that included a national record
seven hundred and seventy six wickets across international formats. Tim
Southe is with us. Tim, I want to talk about
your new role in a moment, but with the benefit
of some time and space to reflect a few months
to reflect on your international career, how do you look
(00:54):
back on it in general terms?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, it was an honor to represent his owner.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Is all I ever wanted to do is a kid,
was to play sport and to be to do it
for things Yland and across through formats for a for
a long period of time, it was an etflute pleasure
and a joy to represent our country on the world stage.
And yeah, there was some some tough times through that
through that period, there's some some good times, but but
(01:23):
it's it was just a real, real honor to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was a child of dream and I was very
fortunate to be able to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
And I've got nearly seventy years of memories to so,
I guess look back on for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So it's yeah, a real, real privilege to have been
able to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Are there any things that you are especially proud of.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I think just just being able to represent our country.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And to be able to do it in the world stage.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And I guess for such a small country, such a
proud sporting country, and the things that we're able to
achieve the side during that time what was pretty special.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
We boxed above our.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Weight so of times, and yeah, it's just a privilege
to be a part of. But yeah, just I think
just the the ability and the chance to represent his
Zellen and to be able to do it for for
a long period of time, and the friendships you make
and the memories you create during that time are things
(02:25):
that will will have it you forever.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
As you're playing, are you able to, I don't know,
enjoy the success, be proud of the success as it's happening.
Or you know, with games coming thick and fast in
both formats or all three formats in your case, are
you just sort of onto the next pretty much, and
it might actually take a bit of time, you know,
even than the years ahead for you to actually reflect
on what you achieved.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, I guess even now you sort of you have
moments for you look back and you you reflect on it.
But it's like I say, you've got the memories that
you'll you'll you'll flash back on for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
But I think in the moment you enjoy it. I
think you have to enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, you learn from the bad, you enjoy the good
and keep trying to improve. But the amount of games
that we played and how they came thick and fast,
it was I guess hard too. But you had moments
at the end of series or down time to be
able to look back on and reflect and move forward
as well and enjoy those moments. I think you've got
(03:24):
to enjoy those those small moments as well throughout throughout
throughout your career. And like I say, they went all
all good times. But I think the tough times make
the good times even better.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Cricket is a game that can take you, as you've mentioned,
on a bit of a roller coaster sometimes. What were
your strategies for dealing with the times that that didn't
go quite the way that you would have hoped.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I think been so young coming to the side, you
had to I had to learn pretty quick to deal
with I guess success and fadure and and if you
didn't then I guess you'd find yourself out of the sight.
So it's something I guess you accept and you always
looking at ways to improve and out of the side
a lot, especially early on, and each time you come
(04:10):
back and each time you have a chance to represent, Yeah,
I just want to want to be a little bitter
from each moment, whether it was where it's good or bad,
and just trying to I guess represent New Zealand proudly
and and in in a style that that people can
sit back and watch and enjoy.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Were you stats driven numbers driven during your career.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Not particularly, I think you have a Yeah, it's a
it's a game that's numbers are such a big part
of They certainly drive me, but you're sort of you're
aware of of of stats, and especially nowadays with with
the amount of social media and the amount of things
that you see, you're sort of you're aware of them.
But it certainly wasn't something that that I was driven by.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
So you got a new gig now at the moment anyway,
a short term gig with England Special Skills consultant. That
sounds pretty lash. How did this come about?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, it was an opportunity that it presented itself and
had I had lunch with Brendan and he he he
proposed it to me, and I thought it was just
a great opportunity, too good opportunity to to I guess
not take up. Not many people get to get the
opportunity straight out of his national cricket to walk in
(05:29):
and I guess give back to the game in.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
A way at the at the highest level.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It's a game that's given me everything that I've gotten
and given me so much, and if I can give
back in a way, then I thought, well, well why not.
So I looked at it and spoke to Brendan and
and had to how to think about it, And yeah,
I looked at the bowlers and the side that the
England England side had and it's it's it's an exciting
time for them and there's there's plenty of talent here
(05:55):
to to to work with. So I think it was
just an opportunity that was was too good not to
not to turn down.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So what does the role specifically involved? What are you
doing on a day today? Basis while you're in camp
with England?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Just we're.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
With with the bowlers, helping, helping out way we had
a were the camp pre before that and now we're
into a white Wall series against to West Cindy. So yeah,
just working with their bowlers, trying to I guess, trying
to assist them in any way I can.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
As Brendan McCullum the coach the same as Brendan McCullum
the captain.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, I think Brendan mcallums a pretty pretty sort of solid,
solid guy.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
He doesn't doesn't change too much.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
He's done great things, see great things for us as
a as a side when he took over as captain
and I guess transformed us into the side we are now.
That the success we had under him and the success
we have now all started when he took over as captain.
So he's been an unbelievable way of managing people and
getting the best out of people, and that's no different
(07:04):
than his in his coaching stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And well, your your role with England has start a
pretty well beginnings win and the one off test against
some Babwe, big victory in the first od I against
the West Indies. You've got tests against India coming up,
which is an exciting prospect. Can you get the same
buzz from coaching as you did from playing.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, it's it's obviously early on, it's it's a different
it's a different buzz when you're out there they're playing.
It's slightly different to to I guess a more sit
back approach as to as to what's actually happening out there.
But I guess you take take joy and take pleasure
out of the work you put in with the guys
pre games and then the round games and then seeing
(07:49):
them go out and have success. It's a it's a
different kind of buzz you get to when you're playing.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
But it's certainly certainly.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
A nice feeling when you work with someone and you
see them go out and do well. So it's yeah,
it's it's it's different but it's it's also nice and
like I said, it's great to be able to give
back to a game that's that's given me so much.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And you've still got white ball commitments obviously Birmingham Phoenix
coming up and the Men's hundred and presumably some more
white ball opportunities beyond that when you do finally stop playing,
can you see yourself going into coaching full time?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, I wasn't too too sure what.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Where the where the path of take me post post cricket,
and this is obviously an opportunity to to get.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
A monkst coaching and give it a go.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, still got a couple of playing commitments in around
and around that, which is which is which is great.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
As well to still be still be able to play
the game that I love.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And yeah, it's I've got time to I guess figure
out what's what's next. But I'm enjoying this this at
the moment, And like I said, it's nice to be
able to give back to the game.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Do you reckon you'll ever move completely away from the game,
do something completely different?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
So that's all I've known since I was eighteen years old,
or since I left school. So it's yeah, it's we
know so much and I guess the knowledge about the.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Game that.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
It's a game I love, it's a game I care about.
So yeah, I honestly don't know the answer to that
right now.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All right, we've got plenty of time to think about that.
You've got a bit of coaching, but of playing still
to go. Look all the best for the rest of
this little gig with England and beyond, and look forward
to catching up once you back home. Thanks for that, pony,
Thank you, Tim, Tim Southie there joining us out of England.
Good to get the chance to catch up first time.
I think of Jttletim since his international retirement. So obviously
plenty going on for Tim Soudy in that coaching role
(09:43):
and then on with some more white ball cricket. So
his career will be Elong Gate. It'd be interesting to
see where he ends up, Tim Saudi, whether it's a
coaching gig, perhaps in one of these white ball franchises
around the place.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
They siding me.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Plenty of jobs at the moment, don't there for cricket coaches.
But yeah, good to get the chance to catch up
with Tim Southe.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to news talks at B Weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Popular Podcasts
Boysober
Have you ever wondered what life might be like if you stopped worrying about being wanted, and focused on understanding what you actually want? That was the question Hope Woodard asked herself after a string of situationships inspired her to take a break from sex and dating. She went "boysober," a personal concept that sparked a global movement among women looking to prioritize themselves over men. Now, Hope is looking to expand the ways we explore our relationship to relationships. Taking a bold, unfiltered look into modern love, romance, and self-discovery, Boysober will dive into messy stories about dating, sex, love, friendship, and breaking generational patterns—all with humor, vulnerability, and a fresh perspective.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com