May 8, 2025 • 12 mins
NZ Rugby have posted yet another multi-million dollar loss - despite record turnover.
The group lost $19.5 million last year - the third loss in a row.
Is the issue that the game simply can't compete with the likes of football and basketball - or are they simply spending too much money?
Weekend Sport host Jason Pine and All Sport Breakfast host Adam Cooper joined Nick Mills for the Friday Sport Kickoff.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk saied B. Get a useat for your
sporting weekend. It's the Wellington Mornings Friday Sport Kickoff on news.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Talk s EDB. I just got to listen to this
music for but I quite like it tiny starting joining
us Friday sports kickoff this week this week as always
as weekend hosts, sports hosts Jason Pine Good Morning, Jason Morning,
(00:41):
Nick and all Sports Breakfast hosts Adam Cooper Piety. I
want to start with you on this first. I know
Coops you I'm going to come to you as well.
Becrning good morning. Oh sorry?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Did I not say goodbrying?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Very rudeably? Sorry that?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I mean, you did say it to me at six
this morning? Is that why you're.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Kicking me out of the table. I did notice you
with the and I know you've got a wonderful photo
of the meal that you had at the Rugby Union.
Was it the press conference after that? Was it the event?
What would you call it?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Well, it was the AGM for all the CEO is
no beautiful, beautiful spread?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, Well I'll come to you, scond.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
That's how you get the media along to something that
you put food on.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Did you have lunch there too?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
No, I was, I didn't. It was only for a
certain echelon of the sports media.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The party was too good for us.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm not coming to you first, but you sit down,
shut up for a second, Okay, coops, tell us what
the problem is when New Zealand rugby obviously, what is
it forty No. Eighty seven seventy eight, seventy six million
over three year loss?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad in nineteen point five over
the past year. And I mean on paper, that doesn't
look good, does it, especially three in a row. And
I feel yesterday we got to go along and chat
to the CEO, Mark Robinson and the new chair of
then he's in a rugby board, David Kirk.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know who joins with a huge.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Amount of credibility, you know, as a as a World
Cup winning captain, as a very astute and experienced business
person and someone that you'd you'd hope that with fresh
eyes will come in and sort of make the right
changes that are necessary. And I think that's meant to happen.
But you know, they were doing their absolute best to
turn everything into a positive you know, they summed up that,
(02:16):
you know, the nineteen five million largely came down to
their continued money that they're pouring into some of their
commercial you know, exercises and ambitions, the likes of this
new sort of online channel ing ZR plus. And I
went to the same thing last year when they announced
their financial results, and it's almost the same thing. Oh,
this is a this is an investment that will start
paying off very soon, and the more money we put
(02:38):
it now, the.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
More money we'll get. Well, that hasn't happened in these
past three years.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And you've got the sport now with a nineteen point
five million dollar loss and an exploding cost base. And
it didn't take a financial analyst to see that on
the sheets and think, how are their costs going up
so much? How have they got record revenue from all
the sponsorships around the world. You know, that income coming
in is at the highest levels ever, Yet they're still
(03:01):
posting a loss. And I think they've just got some
really hard questions to ask about that side of things.
But then there's also the argument of where as rugby
sit for a lot of people at the moment, And sadly,
I think it's more and more disengaged. So some real
problems on their hands.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And Piney a quarter of this morning and a stute
call of this morning said it was you and me.
That's the problem. You with football and me with basketball.
They're cutting into rugby. Football's had a sensational year. We
discount Wellington, they've had a sensational year, go to the
World Cup, you know, Auckland, all the good things in football.
So football's on the rise. Female football's on the rise exponentially.
(03:38):
We can't even talk about how much that's on the rise.
Basketball the same is that the problem.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
With no, no, absolutely not red hearing, absolute red hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
In every.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Nation in the world, sports comfortably color exists. Look at Auckland, right,
They've got two super rugby teams, a rugby league team
and the Warriors and ow Aukland the FC. They have
to find a way to comfortably color exist with one another,
just as rugby has to find a way to continue
to be relevant among the rise of the you've talked
about and others. Look, we're all watching our discretionary dollars,
(04:11):
every single one of us. You know, Rugby has to
find a way to cut through and look I think
in many ways, often if we take a step back
from this, rugby can often become a very easy punching
bag for people coops us. Right, you know, their costs
are out of control or certainly beyond what they should be.
If you want to sit down and do a household budget,
we say, right, there's how much money we've got coming in. Therefore,
(04:32):
this is how much we can spend. And if in
over three years you're not reaching that, then something's got
to change. Look, they do have record revenue, and that's
what they're trumpet in.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And let's be a little bit positive about that. I've
been right in today's market in business, and we all
know how tough it is in business. To have record
incomes is magnificent.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, and it shows that the All Blacks in particular
are still a very very palatable proposition for commercial partners.
People want to partner with the All Blacks. And the
latest one is the Toyota Deal. Fantastic deal, well known brand,
feels Kiwi even though it's not, but it feels like
a Kiwi brand. But the cost coop said before they're
spending too much money, they have to line by line
(05:17):
go through their balance sheet. And say, right, what are
we spending this on? What are we spending this on?
The content creation around insit out plus clearly isn't reaping
the rewards yet because people are just not signing up
to it. It has to be a more compelling proposition.
As gregor Paul rte in the here all this morning,
they get more engagement by putting a clip of the
hacker on YouTube than they do on people.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Can I just quickly ask you, because I'd really like
to get your opinion on this. Didn't the A League
in Australia almost go through the same sort of thing
where they put all this money into some if I
got that right wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You've got that right, You've got that bang on. Yeah,
they try to become a content creation business. They poured
millions and millions of dollars into into online platforms, into
promoting the game through an app, through the website, through
all sorts of other digital means. In the end, they
on the conclusion of the actually we're a sports business,
not a content creation business. Yes, we have to promote
(06:12):
our sport, but not at the you know, at the
expense of millions and millions and millions of.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Dollars and It's really tough for an organization like New
Zealand Rugby because not only are they trying to create
a multimillion dollar business to capitalize on the All Blacks
brand be a global sports powerhouse along with you know
NFL teams, the Manchester Uniteds and stuff like that, but
I've also overseeing all these unions from around the country
who don't turn a profit, who actually need financial support constantly,
(06:38):
and who are just as important stakeholders in the game.
So they're going to they have to try and make
a profit with both arms and keep both happy. It's
really tough. But I will just say, after, you know,
seeing Mark Robinson, the CEO yesterday, hearing them on again
with with Heather yesterday, with Mike Hosking this morning, there
is nothing that gives me the confidence that he quite
understands how the average New Zealander is interacting with the
(07:03):
game of rugby. Does he understand why someone going to
William Jones Park on a Saturday to watch you know
why now we are martyr play? Does he does he
get why, you know, someone who is choosing to stay
at a bar or come into a Hurricanes game to watch.
Does he understand that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Surely he does because he's played club rugby at Taranaki,
he's played provincial super rugby at the Crusaders All Black.
If anyone should know, I mean, we're all saying how
great it is. We've got David Kirk who won the
first William Alie Trophy and we're all saying how great
it is. Matt Robinson's the same, he's born and bred
rugby guy.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Yeah, but the future ain't what it used to be, Nick,
You know, we are living in different times now people
as you, as you correctly pointed out. You know, in
the days when Mark Robinson and David Kirk were playing rugby,
football and basketball and other sports American sports that are
just totally engaging our teenagers, we're not the force that
they are now. The world has shrunk through online and
(07:58):
the internet. So yeah, I know you do. But can
I just one more point? Coops are so right. There
has to be an understanding of what people are interacting
with right now and spending their money on, and I'm
not sure that there.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Is, but that they are on the All Blacks brand.
All Black is okay, very much so okay. I just
wanted to quickly think Mark Robinson keeps talking about all
the contracts in this year, you know, their contracts with
the unions, and all the contracts in the year or
have to be re signed this year. Could we see
something as major as what I said I said earlier
(08:31):
on the show that I reckon that one of the simple,
most simple ways of fixing everything is is getting rid
of the NPC completely and spending more of the resources
in club rugby and then have a national club competition,
you know, bring club rugby back to what it used
to be. Forget about NPC. So if club rugby super
rugby at all Blacks.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Well then you're asking people to make the jump from
club rugby to super rugby.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Is that too big a jump?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Okay, well, you you're an expert. I mean, that's that's
your business. That's why are you're an expert. You're an
expert to ask you that question.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
You're basically asking somebody to go from secondary school rugby
to club, play for their club and then be good
enough to play super rugby.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Is that two big a jump? I think it is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But it's only eight games. NPC is not like a
big deal or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
You think of the number of people who graduate from
NPC to Super rugby every year when the Super Rugby
squads are announced. That guy has. Peter Larkey is a
great example here in Wellington. You know he played brilliantly
for Wellington earned his Hurricanes contract. Every Super rugby player
has played the NPC and has got the launching pad
that they needed from the provincial competition.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I would take out every union. As for an NPC
team that has a Super Rugby franchise, Ah love that.
Take out Auckland, take out Wellington, take up Canterbory, Duneed
and hamil YOPC.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's funny. You do that and stop funding local associations.
You stand up on your own.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
No, but no, they can't, thwnck How can how can
a local association make money to fund the entire How
can Wellington Rugby fund the entire amateur game in our
region without help from the national Union.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's impossible. That's why you're here. No, but I mean,
you're right, You're right. I'm just I'm I've got the
plastic entrepreneurial idea.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You've got the real est idea that'll set well, that
will send them to that that will send them to bankruptcy.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
We've got two and a half minutes. We've got to
talk about the Pulse because the first game is against
the Magic in Palmerston this weekend, isn't it tomorrow? So
what's going to happen? How are the pols are they?
Are they going to be the championship team?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I just think they are.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I think they're looking really strong. And this is a
very interesting time because we don't know what the makeup
of Nipall will be next year. Much like rugby, this
is the final year of sort of the TV rights deal,
so a lot's up in the year. The future is uncertain.
But the Pulse, I think, are very you know, well
stacked with experienced players. A couple of injuries to start
the season. Going to be interesting next seeing this two
(10:47):
shot two point shot come in last five minutes of
each quarter, you know, long range shooting. And I know
that just speaking to a couple of the Polse players
and coaches, that they're not already making a strategy. They're
going to see how it goes for the first couple
of rounds and then kind of form their their plans
for the year. Dealing with something that's coming to the
sport line.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Next thing you'll do. They'll be able to dribble the
board and have dunks. Piney, I mean yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Think the Pols are looking good.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I think we're hearing that we will have Whitney Sooners
and Maddie Gordon available for the first game they've been
under injury clouds. You know, Towna Matido, great shooter, Kelly Jackson,
fantastic defender. It's a good team. I think they'll be
there thereabouts. Only lost the Grand Final ble one point
last year.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Remember it's sort of snuck up on us, hasn't it
the whole season? I mean a little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
But yeah, but here we are. I think once they start,
you know, they always get good crowds. They have got
the Unfortunately their home fixtures are back ended, so they
only play at home and it's Parmiston North tomorrow. They
don't have a home game in Wellington for a while.
But then I think three or four of the last
five are at home.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, guys, great to chat, have a great weekend of
sport Breakfast, Sports Weekend Sports host Jason Pine and All
Sports Breakfast host Adam Cooper joining us for Talk Sport.
Isn't it great to have such experts on your show.
Isn't that Everything I came up with I got shot
down every idea I had, paporm pat porm by experts.
(12:05):
That's why I'm just ideas guy.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
For more from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills, listen live
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You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk saied B. Get a useat for your
sporting weekend. It's the Wellington Mornings Friday Sport Kickoff on news.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Talk s EDB. I just got to listen to this
music for but I quite like it tiny starting joining
us Friday sports kickoff this week this week as always
as weekend hosts, sports hosts Jason Pine Good Morning, Jason Morning,
(00:41):
Nick and all Sports Breakfast hosts Adam Cooper Piety. I
want to start with you on this first. I know
Coops you I'm going to come to you as well.
Becrning good morning. Oh sorry?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Did I not say goodbrying?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Very rudeably? Sorry that?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I mean, you did say it to me at six
this morning? Is that why you're.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Kicking me out of the table. I did notice you
with the and I know you've got a wonderful photo
of the meal that you had at the Rugby Union.
Was it the press conference after that? Was it the event?
What would you call it?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Well, it was the AGM for all the CEO is
no beautiful, beautiful spread?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, Well I'll come to you, scond.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
That's how you get the media along to something that
you put food on.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Did you have lunch there too?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
No, I was, I didn't. It was only for a
certain echelon of the sports media.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The party was too good for us.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm not coming to you first, but you sit down,
shut up for a second, Okay, coops, tell us what
the problem is when New Zealand rugby obviously, what is
it forty No. Eighty seven seventy eight, seventy six million
over three year loss?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad in nineteen point five over
the past year. And I mean on paper, that doesn't
look good, does it, especially three in a row. And
I feel yesterday we got to go along and chat
to the CEO, Mark Robinson and the new chair of
then he's in a rugby board, David Kirk.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know who joins with a huge.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Amount of credibility, you know, as a as a World
Cup winning captain, as a very astute and experienced business
person and someone that you'd you'd hope that with fresh
eyes will come in and sort of make the right
changes that are necessary. And I think that's meant to happen.
But you know, they were doing their absolute best to
turn everything into a positive you know, they summed up that,
(02:16):
you know, the nineteen five million largely came down to
their continued money that they're pouring into some of their
commercial you know, exercises and ambitions, the likes of this
new sort of online channel ing ZR plus. And I
went to the same thing last year when they announced
their financial results, and it's almost the same thing. Oh,
this is a this is an investment that will start
paying off very soon, and the more money we put
(02:38):
it now, the.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
More money we'll get. Well, that hasn't happened in these
past three years.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
And you've got the sport now with a nineteen point
five million dollar loss and an exploding cost base. And
it didn't take a financial analyst to see that on
the sheets and think, how are their costs going up
so much? How have they got record revenue from all
the sponsorships around the world. You know, that income coming
in is at the highest levels ever, Yet they're still
(03:01):
posting a loss. And I think they've just got some
really hard questions to ask about that side of things.
But then there's also the argument of where as rugby
sit for a lot of people at the moment, And sadly,
I think it's more and more disengaged. So some real
problems on their hands.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And Piney a quarter of this morning and a stute
call of this morning said it was you and me.
That's the problem. You with football and me with basketball.
They're cutting into rugby. Football's had a sensational year. We
discount Wellington, they've had a sensational year, go to the
World Cup, you know, Auckland, all the good things in football.
So football's on the rise. Female football's on the rise exponentially.
(03:38):
We can't even talk about how much that's on the rise.
Basketball the same is that the problem.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
With no, no, absolutely not red hearing, absolute red hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
In every.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Nation in the world, sports comfortably color exists. Look at Auckland, right,
They've got two super rugby teams, a rugby league team
and the Warriors and ow Aukland the FC. They have
to find a way to comfortably color exist with one another,
just as rugby has to find a way to continue
to be relevant among the rise of the you've talked
about and others. Look, we're all watching our discretionary dollars,
(04:11):
every single one of us. You know, Rugby has to
find a way to cut through and look I think
in many ways, often if we take a step back
from this, rugby can often become a very easy punching
bag for people coops us. Right, you know, their costs
are out of control or certainly beyond what they should be.
If you want to sit down and do a household budget,
we say, right, there's how much money we've got coming in. Therefore,
(04:32):
this is how much we can spend. And if in
over three years you're not reaching that, then something's got
to change. Look, they do have record revenue, and that's
what they're trumpet in.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And let's be a little bit positive about that. I've
been right in today's market in business, and we all
know how tough it is in business. To have record
incomes is magnificent.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, and it shows that the All Blacks in particular
are still a very very palatable proposition for commercial partners.
People want to partner with the All Blacks. And the
latest one is the Toyota Deal. Fantastic deal, well known brand,
feels Kiwi even though it's not, but it feels like
a Kiwi brand. But the cost coop said before they're
spending too much money, they have to line by line
(05:17):
go through their balance sheet. And say, right, what are
we spending this on? What are we spending this on?
The content creation around insit out plus clearly isn't reaping
the rewards yet because people are just not signing up
to it. It has to be a more compelling proposition.
As gregor Paul rte in the here all this morning,
they get more engagement by putting a clip of the
hacker on YouTube than they do on people.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Can I just quickly ask you, because I'd really like
to get your opinion on this. Didn't the A League
in Australia almost go through the same sort of thing
where they put all this money into some if I
got that right wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You've got that right, You've got that bang on. Yeah,
they try to become a content creation business. They poured
millions and millions of dollars into into online platforms, into
promoting the game through an app, through the website, through
all sorts of other digital means. In the end, they
on the conclusion of the actually we're a sports business,
not a content creation business. Yes, we have to promote
(06:12):
our sport, but not at the you know, at the
expense of millions and millions and millions of.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Dollars and It's really tough for an organization like New
Zealand Rugby because not only are they trying to create
a multimillion dollar business to capitalize on the All Blacks
brand be a global sports powerhouse along with you know
NFL teams, the Manchester Uniteds and stuff like that, but
I've also overseeing all these unions from around the country
who don't turn a profit, who actually need financial support constantly,
(06:38):
and who are just as important stakeholders in the game.
So they're going to they have to try and make
a profit with both arms and keep both happy. It's
really tough. But I will just say, after, you know,
seeing Mark Robinson, the CEO yesterday, hearing them on again
with with Heather yesterday, with Mike Hosking this morning, there
is nothing that gives me the confidence that he quite
understands how the average New Zealander is interacting with the
(07:03):
game of rugby. Does he understand why someone going to
William Jones Park on a Saturday to watch you know
why now we are martyr play? Does he does he
get why, you know, someone who is choosing to stay
at a bar or come into a Hurricanes game to watch.
Does he understand that I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Surely he does because he's played club rugby at Taranaki,
he's played provincial super rugby at the Crusaders All Black.
If anyone should know, I mean, we're all saying how
great it is. We've got David Kirk who won the
first William Alie Trophy and we're all saying how great
it is. Matt Robinson's the same, he's born and bred
rugby guy.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Yeah, but the future ain't what it used to be, Nick,
You know, we are living in different times now people
as you, as you correctly pointed out. You know, in
the days when Mark Robinson and David Kirk were playing rugby,
football and basketball and other sports American sports that are
just totally engaging our teenagers, we're not the force that
they are now. The world has shrunk through online and
(07:58):
the internet. So yeah, I know you do. But can
I just one more point? Coops are so right. There
has to be an understanding of what people are interacting
with right now and spending their money on, and I'm
not sure that there.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Is, but that they are on the All Blacks brand.
All Black is okay, very much so okay. I just
wanted to quickly think Mark Robinson keeps talking about all
the contracts in this year, you know, their contracts with
the unions, and all the contracts in the year or
have to be re signed this year. Could we see
something as major as what I said I said earlier
(08:31):
on the show that I reckon that one of the simple,
most simple ways of fixing everything is is getting rid
of the NPC completely and spending more of the resources
in club rugby and then have a national club competition,
you know, bring club rugby back to what it used
to be. Forget about NPC. So if club rugby super
rugby at all Blacks.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Well then you're asking people to make the jump from
club rugby to super rugby.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Is that too big a jump?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I think it is.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Okay, well, you you're an expert. I mean, that's that's
your business. That's why are you're an expert. You're an
expert to ask you that question.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
You're basically asking somebody to go from secondary school rugby
to club, play for their club and then be good
enough to play super rugby.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Is that two big a jump? I think it is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But it's only eight games. NPC is not like a
big deal or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
You think of the number of people who graduate from
NPC to Super rugby every year when the Super Rugby
squads are announced. That guy has. Peter Larkey is a
great example here in Wellington. You know he played brilliantly
for Wellington earned his Hurricanes contract. Every Super rugby player
has played the NPC and has got the launching pad
that they needed from the provincial competition.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
I would take out every union. As for an NPC
team that has a Super Rugby franchise, Ah love that.
Take out Auckland, take out Wellington, take up Canterbory, Duneed
and hamil YOPC.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's funny. You do that and stop funding local associations.
You stand up on your own.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
No, but no, they can't, thwnck How can how can
a local association make money to fund the entire How
can Wellington Rugby fund the entire amateur game in our
region without help from the national Union.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's impossible. That's why you're here. No, but I mean,
you're right, You're right. I'm just I'm I've got the
plastic entrepreneurial idea.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You've got the real est idea that'll set well, that
will send them to that that will send them to bankruptcy.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
We've got two and a half minutes. We've got to
talk about the Pulse because the first game is against
the Magic in Palmerston this weekend, isn't it tomorrow? So
what's going to happen? How are the pols are they?
Are they going to be the championship team?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I just think they are.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I think they're looking really strong. And this is a
very interesting time because we don't know what the makeup
of Nipall will be next year. Much like rugby, this
is the final year of sort of the TV rights deal,
so a lot's up in the year. The future is uncertain.
But the Pulse, I think, are very you know, well
stacked with experienced players. A couple of injuries to start
the season. Going to be interesting next seeing this two
(10:47):
shot two point shot come in last five minutes of
each quarter, you know, long range shooting. And I know
that just speaking to a couple of the Polse players
and coaches, that they're not already making a strategy. They're
going to see how it goes for the first couple
of rounds and then kind of form their their plans
for the year. Dealing with something that's coming to the
sport line.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Next thing you'll do. They'll be able to dribble the
board and have dunks. Piney, I mean yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Think the Pols are looking good.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I think we're hearing that we will have Whitney Sooners
and Maddie Gordon available for the first game they've been
under injury clouds. You know, Towna Matido, great shooter, Kelly Jackson,
fantastic defender. It's a good team. I think they'll be
there thereabouts. Only lost the Grand Final ble one point
last year.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Remember it's sort of snuck up on us, hasn't it
the whole season? I mean a little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
But yeah, but here we are. I think once they start,
you know, they always get good crowds. They have got
the Unfortunately their home fixtures are back ended, so they
only play at home and it's Parmiston North tomorrow. They
don't have a home game in Wellington for a while.
But then I think three or four of the last
five are at home.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Okay, guys, great to chat, have a great weekend of
sport Breakfast, Sports Weekend Sports host Jason Pine and All
Sports Breakfast host Adam Cooper joining us for Talk Sport.
Isn't it great to have such experts on your show.
Isn't that Everything I came up with I got shot
down every idea I had, paporm pat porm by experts.
(12:05):
That's why I'm just ideas guy.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
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