The All Blacks take on Argentina at Sky Stadium in Wellington this weekend, but the game still isn't sold out. Why does there seem to be less hype than usual?
And Wellington Phoenix star goalkeeper Alex Paulsen has signed with Auckland FC - what will this mean for the Phoenix?
Weekend Sport host Jason Pine and All Sport Breakfast host Adam Cooper joined Nick Mills to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk said B it's the Friday Sport kickoff
with the Glass Shop servicing Wellington for over forty years.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Joining us for Friday Sport Kickoff this week are two
of Olympic Gold Sports Olympic commentators, Weekend Sports host Jason
Pines at All Sports Breakfast hosts Adam Cooper.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good morning guys, Good morning, Hick. How are you good?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Thank you? You sound a little bit tired. Have you
not had been to bed yet you guys?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
No, not yet. No, it been up all night commentating
the games, Nick, and obviously the sleep plan has been
extenders to chat with you at the on a day.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
All right, well let's get it out. Let's get through
it as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Olympic Wrap, two golds, two bronze, last night, Piney, big
night for you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, we loved it. It's great and yes we have
been working through the night. But as I often say,
you know, we're not out here digging drains where we're
living the dream, you know, and there would be a
lot of people I know listening who would swap with
us in a heartbeat. The chance to to you know,
to commentate sport. Yeah, Coops had the had the honor
of commentating the bronze and the sailing for Michael Wilkinson
(01:38):
and Erica Dawson did an amazing job of that. Then
we had the double golds for for the K four
women led by the goat in the boat, Dame Lisa Carrington.
And then we had Alice Andrews this morning winning the
care and so yeah, medals are starting to flow. Yeah,
it's it's been great. You know, I've I've enjoyed the
(01:58):
fact that the Olympics of you know, you get to
watch so many different sports. But the medals are starting
to flow now, you know. And I think there are
more to come over the weekend, more in the kayak,
more at the at the velodrome, and I've just got
to seek a sneaking suspicion there might be one and
maybe even two at the track and field as well.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know what I'm really excited about.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Coep's really excited about is Dame Lisa against Amy Fisher.
Now that to me, that's that's my whole Olympics right there,
and I'm picking.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm picking Fisher is going to win it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You reckon, you reckon, We'll shares the world record holder. Yeah,
and that is really one of the most exciting moments
of this Olympics, isn't it. We saw them both both
progress through that the early stages of the competition. It
was Lisa Carrington that just got the edge with the
timings in their first heats, but that won't worry Amy
Fisher at all. I mean, Amy Fish is the current
world record holder in that time as well. Yeah, that
(02:53):
is really one of the most riveting contests out, isn't it, Nick,
Because you look at the Olympics, it's often the rivalry
between two different athletes from two different countries that you know,
you look at the collision course for them to meet
come a final. But here we are looking at their
K one five hundred events and saying that Amy Fisher
and Lisa Carringter will be squaring off for a gold medal,
(03:15):
both in New Zealand colors, and it really bodes well.
I mean, I think it's just so hard to pick.
It's really hard to pick. How can you really pick
someone when you know, you know Lisa Carrington's experience but
also Amy Fisher's recent form, So.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Biggest stronger match up. I'm going bigger, stronger, younger. Can
you Can you do me a favor? Can you text
me before it starts? Because I'm going to forget and
get on my world. I mean I'm not you know,
I'm not putting it on you because I know you're
a busy guy. But if you remember before it, just
texts me to remind me that it's on. Let's talk
about something that we've been talking about a lot this week,
well a little bit in the last few days anyway,
(03:49):
the All Blacks Test match in Wellington against Argentina Piney
tomorrow to get some.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Mean selling they haven't been selling to.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
There's no bus, there's nothing.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah, it's interesting because I think the days are gone
when All Blacks tests sold out as a matter of right.
You know, people these days, as you know Nick, you know,
we're being a bit more careful with our money. Not
everybody can afford to go to an All Blacks test
and certainly take the family along and everything that goes
with that. And you know, there's such a comfortable viewing
(04:21):
experience in your own lounge that that you know, often
people will decide that they'll four go a test. There's
another one later in the year. Of course, when the
All Blacks play Australia, I get the feeling that will
be a much more attractive proposition. Maybe the Pumas don't
quite have the pulling power of the likes of Australia
and South Africa. Look, I hope, I hope we still
(04:42):
get a decent crowd on to get the feeling. The
All Blacks always managed to get sort of twenty five
thirty along, don't they. I haven't seen the latest numbers, but.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
No one everyone's gone really quiet about it, Piney. No
one's actually saying what they are. The Post this morning
said they thought twenty four had sold out, sold But
it's kind of I think it's a big concern. I
cannot remember, and you guys are a lot more sporty
than me.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Coops.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Tell me when the last time you can remember an
All Black game in sky Stadium not selling out?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, it would be quite some time. I remember the
last time they played was that Ireland's Deciding Test, you know,
a couple of years ago, where the All Blacks went
on to lose to Ireland in that series. But yeah,
it is quite a rarity. But I you know, bought
piney set is true. You know, there are two tests
in Wellington this year, and you look at it right
from a broad perspective, there's only going to be a
certain number of people every year that want to pay
(05:30):
to go along to an All Blacks test. And if
they've got budget to go to one test, they're not
going to pick the All Blacks Argentina right now this
weekend out that they're going to pick the All Blacks
taking on Australia in early October, because that matchup was
always just a little bit more exciting, has a little
bit more on the line, and it's a bit more
traditional in terms of the rivalry. I myself have you know,
bought tickets for the All Blacks Australia game, you know
(05:52):
later in the un Nick, but I really, you know,
I'm not in Wellington at the moment, but really at
the time would not have had too much interest and
matched up without Australian game. And in terms of getting
tickets for that, so I think, you know, people's budgets
are sen they can't afford to go to two All
Blacks tests within a year, and then the population of
Wellington doesn't quite have enough people that could you know,
share the load round and sort of go to one,
(06:14):
one or two.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So it seemed to be used to be more than that. Though.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It used to be like an attraction to come to
Wellington if you lived in you know, anywhere in New Zealand.
You come for a big weekend in Wellington to watch
the or backs.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It used to will for the Australian game. But there's
just not enough people to warrant you know that. That's
you know, you're talking two All Blacks games. You're talking
seventy thousand people. I don't think there's enough people that
can afford to pay for an All Blacks game. That's
that's at that seventy thousand threshold.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Okay, I can't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I'm still convinced that you and your dad would have
gone along to the Argentina game if you're in town.
But Lions open up the NPC against Auckland Eden Park
now Piney. I believe the Lions are hot favorites. Wow,
I'm pretty excited about this because it's an all star
Lions team, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Well, yeah, you look at the team and you did right, Nick.
You know, it's in many ways it's the Hurricanes in disguise.
You just got to look at the loose forwards free
Brad Shields, Duplessy kl Ethie and Peter Larkeye. You know
it's and then there's ave you nuw Mia anchoring your
front row. You've got Julian Savia, who I didn't even
know was coming back to well I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You're right, Yeah, he's there.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I'm Peter who among a Jensen as well, and Riley
Higgins who's a real up and comer. Jackson Garden Baship
is back. I think this is a very strong Wellington
line site quite how much cut through it gets early
on with the all black season obviously, and the back
end of the Olympics remains to be seen. But look,
as you know, Nick, Wellington don't beat Auckland very often
at Eden Park. It's been rare, very very rare down
(07:41):
the years. I'm backing them to do it tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
O good on you coops quickly, because I want to
move on to I've only got a couple more minutes
when I want to move on to Alex Poulsen's story.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
But what do you think is going to happen with
Auckland Wellington? Tonight? Coops?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I totally agree that their favorite for the whole competition. Nick,
you look at the squads and you see Duplessy could
feet about it, what sixth year of captaining this team.
Brad Shields is back in Wellington. You know he came
back last before his return to the Hurricanes. Yeah, Julian Savia,
Peter Maha Jensen, you know the names that Piney mentioned.
Matt Proctor is back. Obviously his brother Billy has received
(08:16):
an All Blacks call up, but he slops back in
to kind of almost fill that void as Matt Proctor
the one test All Black who's played a few years
in England. So the experience on this Wellington side is
absolutely immense and I think they need to be semi
finalist or finalist this year. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Okay, Now I've got to ask you both, Piney. Wellington
star goalkeeper Alex Paulson, who went over to England aside
these big contracts, was going to be a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Now he's going to come back and play against us.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah. I found this a really interesting story actually, Nick,
and the person I feel for in all of this
is Alex Paulson. I have to say it's a great
win for Auckland FC. It's a great win for the
derby as well, because we wouldn't ordinarily be talking about
a league in August. It wouldn't be on our list
of things to talk about on this show or on
any show. But I just wonder about, what, you know,
(09:09):
whether Alex Paulson knew that this was going to happen
when he signed for Bournemouth. I rarely hope that he did,
because if he gets over to Bournemouth, a Premier League club,
and you know, is involved in all their social media,
we see all this footage of him training with his
new teammates, meeting them all. Here's Alex Paulson, a Premier
League goalkeeper, and all of a sudden he's got to
(09:30):
go from the Premier League so Penrose in Auckland. That's
a mount smart, you know. I just wonder whether that's
putting his best interests in the center of the conversation.
He is far too good for the A League. I
think we found that out last season. If they're going
to loan him out from Bournemouth, loan him out in
Europe where he is easily accessible to them. If they
(09:51):
have a couple of injuries, they can get him back.
If Bournemouth have a couple of injuries now, they're not
going to fly Alex Paulson twelve thousand miles around the world. Look,
I think that the positive as it gets us talking
about it. I just hope, hope that Alex Paulson was
in on the whole time and hasn't been blindsided by this.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, and I've hoped that that if he wanted to
come back to the A League, whether he could have
played for the for the Phoenix coeps quickly you go
your thoughts on this one.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Please, Well all I'll say that is, you know, regardless
of what's happening here, I just hope that we know
how hostile fans and football especially can be. Let's not
paint Alex Paulton as the villain if he comes up
in awkand colors in front and Wellington, because I would
suggest that if even if he is here opposing his
former team, the Phoenix, it hasn't been his decision for
this to happen this way. And I don't think he
(10:39):
should be a player that they boo and and you know,
welcome back on the sky stating with a hostile reaction
after what he contributed to the team this past year.
So we will wait and see for that, but that's
what I hope.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Enjoy your last few days on Sport as gold Sports
and giving us the Olympic highlights. I really appreciate it.
Looking forward to having you both in the studio. We
miss you, We miss you in the organization. Have a
great weekend, Jason Pine and Adam Cooper.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Wellington Mornings Friday Sport kickoff with a glass shop Superior
Glass and Glazing Surface Glass Shop dot co dot insed.
That's two p's and an e in shop for more
from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills. Listen live to news
talks It'd Be Wellington from nine am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Wellington Mornings podcast with Nick Mills
from News Talk said B it's the Friday Sport kickoff
with the Glass Shop servicing Wellington for over forty years.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Joining us for Friday Sport Kickoff this week are two
of Olympic Gold Sports Olympic commentators, Weekend Sports host Jason
Pines at All Sports Breakfast hosts Adam Cooper.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good morning guys, Good morning, Hick. How are you good?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Thank you? You sound a little bit tired. Have you
not had been to bed yet you guys?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
No, not yet. No, it been up all night commentating
the games, Nick, and obviously the sleep plan has been
extenders to chat with you at the on a day.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
All right, well let's get it out. Let's get through
it as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Olympic Wrap, two golds, two bronze, last night, Piney, big
night for you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, we loved it. It's great and yes we have
been working through the night. But as I often say,
you know, we're not out here digging drains where we're
living the dream, you know, and there would be a
lot of people I know listening who would swap with
us in a heartbeat. The chance to to you know,
to commentate sport. Yeah, Coops had the had the honor
of commentating the bronze and the sailing for Michael Wilkinson
(01:38):
and Erica Dawson did an amazing job of that. Then
we had the double golds for for the K four
women led by the goat in the boat, Dame Lisa Carrington.
And then we had Alice Andrews this morning winning the
care and so yeah, medals are starting to flow. Yeah,
it's it's been great. You know, I've I've enjoyed the
(01:58):
fact that the Olympics of you know, you get to
watch so many different sports. But the medals are starting
to flow now, you know. And I think there are
more to come over the weekend, more in the kayak,
more at the at the velodrome, and I've just got
to seek a sneaking suspicion there might be one and
maybe even two at the track and field as well.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know what I'm really excited about.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Coep's really excited about is Dame Lisa against Amy Fisher.
Now that to me, that's that's my whole Olympics right there,
and I'm picking.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm picking Fisher is going to win it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You reckon, you reckon, We'll shares the world record holder. Yeah,
and that is really one of the most exciting moments
of this Olympics, isn't it. We saw them both both
progress through that the early stages of the competition. It
was Lisa Carrington that just got the edge with the
timings in their first heats, but that won't worry Amy
Fisher at all. I mean, Amy Fish is the current
world record holder in that time as well. Yeah, that
(02:53):
is really one of the most riveting contests out, isn't it, Nick,
Because you look at the Olympics, it's often the rivalry
between two different athletes from two different countries that you know,
you look at the collision course for them to meet
come a final. But here we are looking at their
K one five hundred events and saying that Amy Fisher
and Lisa Carringter will be squaring off for a gold medal,
(03:15):
both in New Zealand colors, and it really bodes well.
I mean, I think it's just so hard to pick.
It's really hard to pick. How can you really pick
someone when you know, you know Lisa Carrington's experience but
also Amy Fisher's recent form, So.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Biggest stronger match up. I'm going bigger, stronger, younger. Can
you Can you do me a favor? Can you text
me before it starts? Because I'm going to forget and
get on my world. I mean I'm not you know,
I'm not putting it on you because I know you're
a busy guy. But if you remember before it, just
texts me to remind me that it's on. Let's talk
about something that we've been talking about a lot this week,
well a little bit in the last few days anyway,
(03:49):
the All Blacks Test match in Wellington against Argentina Piney
tomorrow to get some.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Mean selling they haven't been selling to.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
There's no bus, there's nothing.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah, it's interesting because I think the days are gone
when All Blacks tests sold out as a matter of right.
You know, people these days, as you know Nick, you know,
we're being a bit more careful with our money. Not
everybody can afford to go to an All Blacks test
and certainly take the family along and everything that goes
with that. And you know, there's such a comfortable viewing
(04:21):
experience in your own lounge that that you know, often
people will decide that they'll four go a test. There's
another one later in the year. Of course, when the
All Blacks play Australia, I get the feeling that will
be a much more attractive proposition. Maybe the Pumas don't
quite have the pulling power of the likes of Australia
and South Africa. Look, I hope, I hope we still
(04:42):
get a decent crowd on to get the feeling. The
All Blacks always managed to get sort of twenty five
thirty along, don't they. I haven't seen the latest numbers, but.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
No one everyone's gone really quiet about it, Piney. No
one's actually saying what they are. The Post this morning
said they thought twenty four had sold out, sold But
it's kind of I think it's a big concern. I
cannot remember, and you guys are a lot more sporty
than me.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Coops.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Tell me when the last time you can remember an
All Black game in sky Stadium not selling out?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, it would be quite some time. I remember the
last time they played was that Ireland's Deciding Test, you know,
a couple of years ago, where the All Blacks went
on to lose to Ireland in that series. But yeah,
it is quite a rarity. But I you know, bought
piney set is true. You know, there are two tests
in Wellington this year, and you look at it right
from a broad perspective, there's only going to be a
certain number of people every year that want to pay
(05:30):
to go along to an All Blacks test. And if
they've got budget to go to one test, they're not
going to pick the All Blacks Argentina right now this
weekend out that they're going to pick the All Blacks
taking on Australia in early October, because that matchup was
always just a little bit more exciting, has a little
bit more on the line, and it's a bit more
traditional in terms of the rivalry. I myself have you know,
bought tickets for the All Blacks Australia game, you know
(05:52):
later in the un Nick, but I really, you know,
I'm not in Wellington at the moment, but really at
the time would not have had too much interest and
matched up without Australian game. And in terms of getting
tickets for that, so I think, you know, people's budgets
are sen they can't afford to go to two All
Blacks tests within a year, and then the population of
Wellington doesn't quite have enough people that could you know,
share the load round and sort of go to one,
(06:14):
one or two.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So it seemed to be used to be more than that. Though.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It used to be like an attraction to come to
Wellington if you lived in you know, anywhere in New Zealand.
You come for a big weekend in Wellington to watch
the or backs.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It used to will for the Australian game. But there's
just not enough people to warrant you know that. That's
you know, you're talking two All Blacks games. You're talking
seventy thousand people. I don't think there's enough people that
can afford to pay for an All Blacks game. That's
that's at that seventy thousand threshold.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Okay, I can't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I'm still convinced that you and your dad would have
gone along to the Argentina game if you're in town.
But Lions open up the NPC against Auckland Eden Park
now Piney. I believe the Lions are hot favorites. Wow,
I'm pretty excited about this because it's an all star
Lions team, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Well, yeah, you look at the team and you did right, Nick.
You know, it's in many ways it's the Hurricanes in disguise.
You just got to look at the loose forwards free
Brad Shields, Duplessy kl Ethie and Peter Larkeye. You know
it's and then there's ave you nuw Mia anchoring your
front row. You've got Julian Savia, who I didn't even
know was coming back to well I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
You're right, Yeah, he's there.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I'm Peter who among a Jensen as well, and Riley
Higgins who's a real up and comer. Jackson Garden Baship
is back. I think this is a very strong Wellington
line site quite how much cut through it gets early
on with the all black season obviously, and the back
end of the Olympics remains to be seen. But look,
as you know, Nick, Wellington don't beat Auckland very often
at Eden Park. It's been rare, very very rare down
(07:41):
the years. I'm backing them to do it tonight.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
O good on you coops quickly, because I want to
move on to I've only got a couple more minutes
when I want to move on to Alex Poulsen's story.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
But what do you think is going to happen with
Auckland Wellington? Tonight? Coops?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I totally agree that their favorite for the whole competition. Nick,
you look at the squads and you see Duplessy could
feet about it, what sixth year of captaining this team.
Brad Shields is back in Wellington. You know he came
back last before his return to the Hurricanes. Yeah, Julian Savia,
Peter Maha Jensen, you know the names that Piney mentioned.
Matt Proctor is back. Obviously his brother Billy has received
(08:16):
an All Blacks call up, but he slops back in
to kind of almost fill that void as Matt Proctor
the one test All Black who's played a few years
in England. So the experience on this Wellington side is
absolutely immense and I think they need to be semi
finalist or finalist this year. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Okay, Now I've got to ask you both, Piney. Wellington
star goalkeeper Alex Paulson, who went over to England aside
these big contracts, was going to be a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Now he's going to come back and play against us.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah. I found this a really interesting story actually, Nick,
and the person I feel for in all of this
is Alex Paulson. I have to say it's a great
win for Auckland FC. It's a great win for the
derby as well, because we wouldn't ordinarily be talking about
a league in August. It wouldn't be on our list
of things to talk about on this show or on
any show. But I just wonder about, what, you know,
(09:09):
whether Alex Paulson knew that this was going to happen
when he signed for Bournemouth. I rarely hope that he did,
because if he gets over to Bournemouth, a Premier League club,
and you know, is involved in all their social media,
we see all this footage of him training with his
new teammates, meeting them all. Here's Alex Paulson, a Premier
League goalkeeper, and all of a sudden he's got to
(09:30):
go from the Premier League so Penrose in Auckland. That's
a mount smart, you know. I just wonder whether that's
putting his best interests in the center of the conversation.
He is far too good for the A League. I
think we found that out last season. If they're going
to loan him out from Bournemouth, loan him out in
Europe where he is easily accessible to them. If they
(09:51):
have a couple of injuries, they can get him back.
If Bournemouth have a couple of injuries now, they're not
going to fly Alex Paulson twelve thousand miles around the world. Look,
I think that the positive as it gets us talking
about it. I just hope, hope that Alex Paulson was
in on the whole time and hasn't been blindsided by this.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, and I've hoped that that if he wanted to
come back to the A League, whether he could have
played for the for the Phoenix coeps quickly you go
your thoughts on this one.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Please, Well all I'll say that is, you know, regardless
of what's happening here, I just hope that we know
how hostile fans and football especially can be. Let's not
paint Alex Paulton as the villain if he comes up
in awkand colors in front and Wellington, because I would
suggest that if even if he is here opposing his
former team, the Phoenix, it hasn't been his decision for
this to happen this way. And I don't think he
(10:39):
should be a player that they boo and and you know,
welcome back on the sky stating with a hostile reaction
after what he contributed to the team this past year.
So we will wait and see for that, but that's
what I hope.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Enjoy your last few days on Sport as gold Sports
and giving us the Olympic highlights. I really appreciate it.
Looking forward to having you both in the studio. We
miss you, We miss you in the organization. Have a
great weekend, Jason Pine and Adam Cooper.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Wellington Mornings Friday Sport kickoff with a glass shop Superior
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