Part One: The Slavery Loving Fascist who Built Modern Japan

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, Sophie, I don't know if I agree with you
that a Kamala Harris themed erotic vampire anime would be successful.
But I guess we all have different opinions on things. Oh,
I didn't notice the audience had had come in here.
I'm Robert Evanance. This is Behind Bastards. It's a podcast
about the worst people in all of history. Sophie and
Christopher and I were just having a conversation about manga's

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that we think would be successful. Um so, Christopher, I
don't know, what do you think erotic Kamala Harris vampire anime?
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know the advantage you get you get out of out
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big ice cute, cannot go wrong, cannot go wrong. Um, well,
other things you can't go wrong with our classic Behind
the Bastard's reverse episode where where one of my Sophie
are we allowed to call them indentured servants? No, we're
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Sophie one of our team members, one of the members
of our squad, Sophie, there is no iron team, but
several of the letters that are also in Indentured Servant
are in the worst team. So, Robert, that was worse
than that was worse than the fake laugh you did
at the start of this episode. Christopher Wong, who is
on our team, a valued member of the Zone Media squad.

(01:36):
I'd prefer uh hunt the cool Zone Media Hunt. I've
always felt we were more of a regime. Oh god,
you know your your web cram being broken and me
not being able to look you in the eyes when
I'm angry really upset to me. I know, I know
that's part of why I haven't fixed it. Christopher, are

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we gonna learn about today well on this podcast for
before we formally start. Robert, how do you feel about
Operation paper Clip? Um? Oh, you know, so when World
War two ended, right, same kind of feeling that I
got when like the last Lord of the Rings movie finished,
or like when Firefly got canceled, and I'm like, but
I wanted more. I wanted more from these kookie Nazis

(02:19):
and their crimes and then the US government and the
Russian government in two separate operations, were like, don't worry, Robert,
We're gonna give those guys future jobs. You can keep
following the careers of Albert Speer, Verner von Brown, a
bunch of other Nazis, including that guy the CIA hired,
and see what they do after the war. It's like, um,

(02:42):
you know what it's like. Uh, it's like that TV
show Joey after Friends got canceled. That's what Operation paper
Clip is for the Nazis. And I I personally, as
a fan of both Joey and World War two history,
I think that's great. What's Joey's last name, Triviana, something
like that. More or less, it's been a long time

(03:03):
since I watched the episode of Friends. Look, it's been
like fifteen years. Come on, oh well, Robert, you're you're
going to love part two of this. And I'm gonna
start out at this episode. I'm gonna make an incredibly
bold claim and we'll see how to see if you
agree with it after after after the part the second
part of this episode, UM, I maintain that the rehabilitation

(03:27):
of Nobisuka Kishi, who is the subody give today's episode
is the single worst example of the US rehabilitating a
war criminal after the end of the days, this is
the worst one. I'm excited because this is a new
war criminal for me, which is a huge day in
Robert Land. Yeah, yeah, alright. So Kishi was born on

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November eighte in a village Inmgushi Prefecture of Japan. Now
she she is born in an incredibly important time in
Japanese history, right, just literally right at the beginning of
the second phase of Japanese imperialism. So to get us
to the second phase, um so, after the restoration the
Emperor and the Meiji restoration of Japan rapidly starts importing

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European technology, European organizational principles, your Pean ideology, and European
racism in order to do a rapid quote unquote modernization
campaign in order to compete with the European nations. Now,
Japan was not exactly like an egalitarian paradise before they
started doing this. And you know the consequence of this
is that you know, they take the colonialism like a

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fish to water. And this starts what I'm going to
call the three phases of Japanese imperialism. You have imperialism one,
imperialism to imperialism harder, and imperialism with three tokyo drift.
I'm very frustrated that that you didn't do an imperialism
too electric boogaloo. But but you know, we'll we'll discuss
that at your next performance evaluation. I will I I

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will endeavor to get better references when I name phases
of imperialism to after bad movie idols. Yeah. So, imperialism
one basically starts right as the major restoration happens, and
and it lasts roughly from about eighteen sixty eight to
the start of the Sino Japanese War in eighteen ninety four.
And and this is the phase that everyone ignores because

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it's you know, this phase imperialism is very very local
or it's happening inside Japan itself, but it's extremely important
to understand, like everything's gonna happen next we're gonna talk
about it for a little bit. And now. So the
the sort of the defining characteristics of this first phase
are the horrifically violent assimilation of the Anui people in Hokkaido,
the annexation of the Rioku Islands. Might not know what

(05:36):
those are the biggest one is Okinawa. You probably know
what that is. Yeah. My my half of my family
has been half of their lives there. Yeah. Yeah, very
nice place, Very very bad things happened to people there. Yeah.
There's a monument at the north of the island called
Peace Prayer Park because when the when the US took
the island, the Japanese occupiers told them like, hey, you're

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all going to get murdered and raped by US troops.
You should just kill yourselves now. And so a shipload
of Okahoma has just flung themselves off the cliffs. Uh.
And now there's a very nice monument there. Um, it's
a lot of bad things have gone down in the Yeah. Yeah,

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this is the Japanese Empire is just sending enormous numbers
of people to their deaths. Is running FEMA this episode. Yeah,
it's it is remarkable when you're telling a story that
takes place, when you're telling a story about colonialism in Asia. Uh,
and the US is not the specific bad guy at

(06:41):
the story. Yeah, like like, yeah, the Empire of Japan
got like yeah, like this is the thing that like
the Americans don't become the bad guys in this story
until two years into the occupation, which is like like
I'm trying to I can't. I don't know if like
another time ever the U. S has like military occupy
another country and it took two years for them to

(07:01):
become like the bad guys. It's yeah, we got faster,
don't worry, guys. Yeah, yeah, we've We've improved our game.
That's what Taylorism brings you. Yep. Yeah, actually this was
the Gakishi. We a lot of just got cut. But Kishi,
big fan of Taylorism, absolutely loves it. And yeah him

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and are cops yep, yep. It's it's great stuff. And
you know, there's one more thing that happens, and this
is I think the least well known of the stuff
that happens in Japan in this period, which is that
there's this just mass destruction and looting of thousands and
thousands of these local non Shinto shrines like in Japan itself,
and they had this this this giant like culture Confian

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just like annihilates like all of this sort of like
local non like Shinto religions, and you know, all of
this violence is about sort of it's about annihilating any
other culture in Japan and forcing everyone to sort of
assemblight to the new Japanese nation state. And you know,
I mean, this is this is what nine century nationalism is.
This this attempt to impose like a single national language
and culture on a bunch of people who you know,

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until this point, like the only thing most a lot
of these people have in common is that like armed
men show up every year and take stuff, some of
them to give it the same king. Like. Other than that,
you know, they have different cultures, have languages, and you know,
and in order to get rid of days that used
to be all government was was armed men taking your
stuff and giving it to the king. And one day,
when libertarianism wins, we'll get back to that. I wonder, yeah,

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I wonder how long it would take for for the CEO.
So it just literally started pointing themselves monarchs. I don't know,
you know, there's that um the Twitter account run in
part by the Kent State gun Girl, the Liberty Hangout
accounts like a libertarian conservative account like four years ago,
and in about a year and a half was like
an ironically advocating the establishment of a monarchy contract. That's

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why I made that joke. It's like literally a thing
that's happening incredible. Yeah, okay, continue, Yeah, you know, and
all the violence of you know, we've been talking about
the violence in Okkaido, the violence in the islands, and
the violence in Japan itself. Like this is this is
the crucible in which Japanese nationalism is formed. And you know,
and like like like the rest of the twenty century nationalisms,

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the only place so that goes is imperialism, to imperialism harder.
And this this phase begins in eight when Japan launches
a war against China basically over control the Korean Peninsula
and they just like they just smashed the Chinese army. Um.
We we talked about this war a little bit from
the Chinese side and our Jong Zung Chong episode, but

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you know, from from the Japanese perspective, this war makes
Japan like the premier like power in East Asia. Like
they're they're they're they're they're the big Asian power and
you know, and Kishi is born the year after Japan
wins the Sound Japanese War, and when he's eight years old,
Japan wins his next major war, which is the Rusto
Japanese War. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, Japan, Like, yeah,

(09:57):
Japan beats Russia so badly war it's amazing. Yeah, that's like, yeah,
the Russians are so like start the war with such
a like we're gonna win us an easy victory against
the savages and then lose their entire north fleet just
just just their asses hand to them almost like one

(10:20):
of the biggest ass whoopings of the entire century military.
It's it's it's kind of funny because it's like, okay,
so like you know, they sailed this, they sailed the
second fleet from like all the way around Europe, around Africa,
and you know, I destroyed to but the first fleet
like the reason next, so there there is exactly one
guy in the entire Russian Navy who has any idea
what he's doing. His name is Makarov. He's he's the

(10:40):
guy who had to the icebreaker, like like he actually
does what he's doing. And also from him, yeah, he's
a he's a cool guy. And then like like at
like at max range, just like a random Japanese cannon
shot just like killed him in the entirety of like
Russian like high command, and that was it for the
Russian Davy because there's no one else in the whole
navy that like wasn't just like rand aristocratic appointment. It's

(11:02):
it's a god yeah, it's it's great because you know,
it takes a lot to stand out as a Russian
naval disaster, because the Russian Navy has pretty comprehensively been
a ship show. We could talk about the Kurs or
the fact that their only aircraft carrier, the Admiral koltz
nets Off, keeps loking. It's dry dock on fire. We

(11:24):
can talk about a lot of stories of the Russian navy,
but please we should probably continue. We'll do a whole
Russian navy. Yeah yeah, you know, and like like in Russia,
like they lose this war so badly it causes a
revolution and you know, but in Japan, this is like,
you know, this is when Japan like becomes one of
the great powers. It's no, it's no longer this like
minor regional power. Like it's one of the great powers,

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and you know, everybody's going to take them seriously after
this the biggest land empire in Europe. Yeah yeah, well
and everything, it's like, you know, they beat a European power. Yeah,
like that that's a huge deal in this period, and
like there's a lot of people who will support the
Japanese Empire like out of like anti imperialism. Basically, it's
like they're a non white empire. We have to yeah,
and this is yeah, you know, trying to explain that,

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I don't know, somebody in Nanjing. Yep, yep. Oh boy,
don't worry. It's an imperialist empire that's shot your family
to debt anyway. Yeah, yeah, it's it's bad stuff. But
you know, like they're the product of this is like
she's is growing up in the period like when Japan
becomes like a super power and you know, they're they're

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they're like a minor great power, Like they're not like
Germany or like like I don't know, or like the
UK or France at this point, but you know, they're
still a great power. And you know, and this is
this is this is going to be sort of important
because this is the sort of this is the sort
of like era of nationalism and era sort of like
triumphalism that that she's coming up in. And Kesh is
going to be one of, if not the main, architect

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of imperialism with three Tokyo drift when that phase starts
thirty seven and then that that's the fascist phase. So
we're gonna we're we're yeah, we're gonna, We're gonna work
our way up to that throughout the course of this.
Now she she's great grandfather was actually like yeah, you know,
this is another source of the sort of like nationalism
and patriots. And he comes up in is he was

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like famous enough for doing like anti shogun stuff if
for the restoration that like when he dies, there's like
a bunch of articles on newspaper about it. But you
know she doesn't that you know too. And after she dies,
the Kishi family business goes under and this starts off
this just really weird set of family drama and she
Kish's family is wild. Um. So she's older brother is

(13:36):
Sato Ihiro, and you know he becomes a vice amirald
the Navy. His younger brother, Sato Issaku, is the third
longest serving prime minister in Japanese history. Kishi spoiler alert,
is also going to become prime minister. And he's like
kind of distantly related to a third Japanese prime minister,
you Shota Shiguru, which is extremely funny and reasons that
we'll get into in the second episode. Like like these

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people are like they're like the Japanese bushes, except like
the Patos are just like they're just random people, Like
they're not like rich, like they're just Yeah, it's it's
it's the opportunity ship. Yeah, yeah, like that. It's like
that they they just like for one generation. Actually, you
know after the after, they're gonna keep they're gonna be
staying politics like that one generation just like just ran

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Japanese politics for like half a century. It doesn't seem
like that's ever a good idea. Yeah, it's it's not great.
Perhaps running paras politics isn't such a great idea, but
that's a cop out anyway. Now because the sort of
the family business imploded, like she she's uncle. Mansasuke goes

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to such like studying medicine in Tokyo and becomes a
professor obstetrics. Yeah, and you know, so Matsuke doesn't have
any sons, and so he adopts she she's younger brother Issaku,
to to marry his daughter. And again I want to
point out, okay, Mantasuke is she's uncle, right, that means
that Eaku is marrying his first cousin, and she also

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marries his cousin Like this is like not like a
normal thing in this period, Like people don't marry their
first cousins like that often. And like both of the
people in this family directly people knew a while ago,
people knew a long time before this that like that's
not really a great idea that happening. Don't aren't looking
so good like they do it anyways, and it's it's

(15:27):
it's a great it's a great sign of where this
is going. So so Kishi stays with Matasuke when he's
like very little, and his uncle realizes that Kishi is
extremely smart, and you know, like he hires a home
tutor to help Kishi passed is like incredibly selective interest
exams for this middle school, and then he hires want
to teach him English, and you know, it's this whole
thing where he's a child prodigy and his uncle is like,

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I'm going to raise him, and you know, like like
Martsasuki like like deeply genuinely love's Kishi. One of his
biographers described it, quote treating his uncle like a son.
Massasuke showered as much afection on Novasuke as did his
own parents. Now, unfortunately for Kishi and unfortunately for like
all of East Asia, uh In, in the middle of

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second year of middle school, Montessuke dies of pneumonia and
she sent off to live with what there was other aunts,
and you know, like this is this is like pretty,
but he's still like a young kid at this point,
and this is like this is really bad for him emotionally,
and you know that the second family that he gets
sent to live with is like way less nice to him,
and so you know, he still get support his academic career,

(16:29):
but he has his like he he he has his
weird young age trauma, which like a couple of one
of his biographers like points this out and and it
is like, yeah, he has all the things that you
need for a great leader. He has he's a he's
a good family, he has a he's a family that
wants to do education, and he has trauma. And I
was like, do you understand where this is going. It's

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very weird. Yeah, yeah, And Kishi, you know it's like
she she's a genius, like he's he has top of
he's at the top of his class in middle school,
he graduates top of his class, again in high school,
and in nineteen he's accepted into the incredibly prestigius Tokyo
Impure University. Now what she sees in college, she starts
to formally intellectually encounter the new Japanese far right, and
he becomes particularly enamored with like the er Japanese fascist

(17:13):
Iki Kita, who he is a weird guy that he
has a lot of sort of eclectic ideas, but like
his big things that he wants the emperor to see
his power in a coup, like dissolve the parliament to
create a fascist state m hm. And you know, she
she she she's kind of soft on the like coup part,
and Keita has some ideas about like well, okay, so

(17:36):
you're gonna cup the government, right, and then you have
a fascist state and the fascist state's gonna like kind
of resource redistribution, and she's like, he's he's kind of
soft in that part, but like, you know, the fascist
state part, he's he's incredibly in favor of. And you know,
I mean, at this point in time, there's no evidence
that it could possibly be a bad thing. Yeah, yeah,
this is you know, this is yeah, this is this is,

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this is, this is pretty busily promising new political theory.
Yeah yeah, now yeah, so so when when when he
graduates from university in n there's a couple of weird
things about it. So like okay, so not he's on
the top of his class, right, but like not only
is the top of his class, he he has the
highest test scores that anyone has ever seen, like in
the history of university. He has the best test scores.

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And then he also like he takes a sivil the
Civil service exam, but like he takes it as like
you know, you're supposed to spend like four or three
or four years in college. He just takes us a
second year and passes. And so you know, he has
this whole arc where he's basically like you know, he
but for most of his career he's seen this just
it just like prodigy and it's like sort of true.

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We'll get into you know, it's not being true when
the war machine starts to come apart. But yeah, you know,
in in this period, he he makes what looks at
the time like a really weird decision. Um, you know
he she's yeah, he's a projecty, like he could easily
have entered like the home office us like that're the

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Home ministry, and you know, he would have had this
very easy career, like very safely could have become a
vice moandistic or like a governor. And instead he joins
the Ministry of Commerce, which at this point is like
a fairly minor like government government industry. And and and he
does this because specifically, like he really really wants to
be in charge of the Japan's industrialization process. And you

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know this is this is gonna be She's like big
thing over his career is he's he's he's planning be aercrat.
He he's you know he yeah, like what while while
while when he gets to the Ministry Commerce, he starts,
you know, he does he does all this research and
send him all over the world to like look at
every people's planning models, and like he gets obsessed with
like nineteen late nineteen twenties German planning stuff, which you

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know looks kind of weird given what's about to happen
in the German economy. But yeah, and he starts advocating
this thing called industrial rationalization, which is you know, this
is this is like economic state planning. But you know,
his the way this is sort of different from like
the Russian model, is that like he wants to still
have corporations, but he wants the core rations is sort
of be run by government beacrasts. I mean, they're still
like capitalists, but like he wants to be run by

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government beeracrasts, and he wants them to be sort of
run for the state interests. And you know, and this
is the other thing about this part, Like anytime someone
says state interest and they're like a beeracrat nine thirties Japan,
what they mean is like building a war machine. And
so you know, you get these like weird, these weird
passages where it's like you read it, this person sounds
like a socialist, and then you read like two more
paragraphs and it's like, oh, right, they want a bunch

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of stay controls they can build like the largest army
the world has ever seen in over state is a
gun to these Yeah, it's it's not entirely different with
like a lot of the ways the Nazis would talk
about this state, like the state in the state is
a race too, Like it's it's yeah, yeah, yeah, And
you know, and he she the way she thinks about
this is that you know, he's gonna chart like a

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third path, which we liberal happens is capitalism and communism.
And this position it becomes held by a group called
they're servi innoculously called the reform Bureaucrats. And the thing
that's important to understand about the reformed Bureaucrats that lots
of people like don't get when they study this is
that the reformed aureaucrats, like all of them, including Kishi,
are fascists. But the thing that's different about them, and
the thing that's you know, makes it sort of obscurest fascism,

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is that, unlike most fascists, the way they're trying to
do fascism is it just works in the bureaucracy. And
so you know that basically like they have the that
the strategy that they're gonna work for breacracy can work
for the inside out. And you know, she she's aided
in this by the fact that his boss, um yesh Shinji,
is the head of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry
and he basically just like gives Kishi free rein to

(21:31):
do whatever he wants. And so Kishi goes, Okay, we're
gonna we're gonna start doing war planning, and you know,
he wants to take over, like stay control of major
industries so they can do kind of planning for form
military stuff. And this gains him a lot of connection
to support in the fascist sections of the army. Now,
Keish allies with what's what's called the Control Faction of
the Army, which is founded by someone you I'll probably

(21:53):
name at least recognize Hideki Tojoe, which yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
failed to shoot himself in the heart yep, great stuff.
Yeah yeah. You know what's sort of weird about the
Control Faction is that like they're founded kind of ironically

(22:14):
like to stop another faction of the army like from
doing fascism. And you know this this confuses a lot
of people because it is confusing. Yeah yeah, yeah. Do
you know, do you know what else is confusing Robert
Um The fact that no one has developed a system
that's been capable of dethroning global capital. That is confusing. Yeah,

(22:37):
it is. It is confusing a lot of people say
they've got the answer, but he's done it. It's true,
but it's true. Yeah, I was, I was what I
was just gonna say, confusing that people don't buy our
products and services. It is that we show on here
because maybe the answer to dethroning capitalism is to participate

(23:00):
paid in it. Don't think about that too much, think
about these ads. Alright, we're back, all right, Chris, let's uh,
let's let's continue forward. Yeah. So so, yeah, we're going
to talk about the absolute mess that is Japanese fascism.

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So we talked about the Control of faction. The Control
faction is formed to stop the the Imperial Way faction
of the army from doing terrorism. And these guys, these
guys hate each other, like the the Imperial Way spends
like a good part of the early thirties just like
murdering this ship out of control faction officers and both
of them are just like purging each other from the army.
And this, this whole thing is part of what a britishown.

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This is called the period of government by assassination. And
this period starts when a group of fascists, this is
one of the there's a million fascist groups in Japan,
this is one of the smaller ones, like assassinated the
prime minister in one and after that everyone just goes, oh,
hold up, we can just kill ministers and so you know,
they killed this just enormous number of government officials, They

(24:05):
killed a bunch of politicians, they killed businessmen, like they
killed two more finance ministers, and like they do like
they do. So there are so many coup attempts that
like you could literally just do an entire podcast series
that is just the coup attempts they attempt in these
like five years, because it's like every every different faction
and every like possible coalition of these factions has their

(24:26):
own coup attempts. And you know, finally, this this period
sort of ends when the Imperial Way and their allies
trying to do like one last giant coup in six
called February twenty incidents, and they get kind of close,
like they take a bunch of government ministries, like they
almost killed the prime minister, they almost killed the Defense minister.
I think, I think they do kill the Defense minister,

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but they lose. And after that, Japan, the Japanese government
is just like, Okay, we're just gonna kill you all,
and so they do this like mass execution of of
like every fascist leader they can get their hands on,
in being uh Ichikdo, who is not involved in this
in any way. But just like on principle, they were like, okay,
the one thing all the fascist to be arounds that
they like you, so we're just gonna assassinate you, and

(25:09):
so well they don't say something that they put them
on trial and a show trial and convictim and killed
them all, and a lot of people, including you know,
people who are like pretty reliable fascism scholars like Robert Paxton,
We'll look at this trial and go, oh, well, okay,
this this is this is like this is as if
like I don't know, like Moosi leads martial, Weba failed
and like this is the end of fashions in Japan.

(25:29):
And I think they're wrong. And the reason I think
they're wrong is that if they're looking for the fascist
revolution in Japan itself, and the fascist revolution doesn't happen
in Japan, it happens in Manchuria. Now we we we
have talked about Manchuria before on this show UM D
D Chong episodes. Um it's you know, it's it's it's

(25:51):
it's like the northeast China equivalent New England that like
you know, Portos, Russia borders Korea. It's really close to
Japan also boris Mongolia. Um know that there's there's a
lot of industry there, and you know it's it's it's
the base of Jong's boss, who's also named Jong Junctu Ling,
and you know he he's the warlord that Japan had
been backing, dream dreamed in the whole world periods of

(26:12):
a civil war era. But both Jongs lose the war
against Chinese nationalists. And you know, like when when when
we last left Mancharia, like a bunch of piste off
Japanese officers had just like bomb Junctu Ling's train, and
you know, after that, Manchuria sort of falls into the
hand of the nationalists. It becomes technically part of the
Chinese Republic. And this is where okay, things have always

(26:33):
been weird to man sure, this is where they get
even weirder. UM anarchist revolution breaks out in Shiman Prefecture
that calls itself the Korean People Association to Mancharia. Now
Shimman's like right on the border with between Mancharia and Korea.
And this anarchist revolution is driven in large part by
this enormous Korema million like two million people like Koreans

(26:54):
have fled to the Japanese occupation in uh you know,
the Jackie is Japanese occupation of Korea and into Mancharia,
and you know, and you know, and it's it's it's
a weird project because you have a bunch of you
have a bunch of anarchists, and you also have a
bunch of Korean nationals working with each other because the
thing both of them agree on is that they hate
the Japanese. And you know that the anarchists sort of

(27:15):
take the lead. They formed a bunch of these councils.
They start organizing the economy, aroun mutual aid, and you know,
they start to set up the education system. They do
all this stuff, and then everyone immediately start trying to
kill them, and so as as is like anarchist tradition,
the Soviets start immediately assassinating people. Um if these guys
have another disadvantage, which is that the Japanese army also
starts assassinating them, and eventually this this whole sort of

(27:37):
anarchist like prefecture, sort of mini territory collapses nine thirty one.
When you know that the incident that I would consider
the actual sort of fascist coup in Japan starts, which
is it is the Muckton incident that triggers this full
scale Japanese invasion of all of Mancharia. Now, the Muckton
incidents extremely weird. Basically, what happened is that a group

(27:58):
of officers in the Quantung Army, which is the japan
has this army in Manchuria that's there to like protect
their railroads basically because Japan like tendically owns all the land,
the railroads a wrong, they have some other concessions, and
so they have this army that's just like in Manchuria
that they can legally have, and the offer some of
the officers at that army basically look at the situation,
they look at what's happening the rest of trying to

(28:19):
look at the anarchist revolution, and they're like, okay, we
need to take over Manchuria like entirely. But you know,
they have no they don't have like a natural pretext.
So they stage a false flag, false flag attack on
their own railroad and use the attack as like a
free tense that started a full scale invasion in Manchuria.
And yeah, it's it's bad, it's and the other other
phone part about this story that We're talking more about
Yakuza later, but like those guys, so they go to

(28:42):
like the Japanese government. In Japanese governments like, you cannot
do this, and so they go to some right wing
industrialists trying to get funding, and they won't do it.
And the people who will fund them are the Yakuza,
and so that they have like like thirty million yen
just just like from the Yakuza that the Yakas are
like here, yeah, used to take over from Manchuria. And
so they do. And you know, and the civilian government

(29:03):
in Japan doesn't want this, but they basically have no
choice because the invasion is like incredibly popular among the
Japanese like public, and you know, one of the reasons
it's popular is that it you know, there's very I mean,
there is some fighting, but Shinkai check in the Nationalists
are you know, they're deep in their civil war with
Mao and the communists in China, and they're just like, okay, Japan,
you can just have this, and so they let they

(29:23):
let them have this without without a fight. And the
consequence is that the Quantuan army, which is you know,
it's chocked full of imperial way followers. The whole there's
like the whole army is just a bunch of different
people in different fascist groups. These guys wind up ending
up in charge of setting up a new state in
Materia called by Chuqua. And the product of this is
you get and it's just an extremely weird state with

(29:45):
like sixteen different versions of fascism, and you know, this
is supposed to be like an independent state, and it
like kind of is a little bit like they install Pouyee,
who's like the last emperor of China as like the
Emperor of Machuqua, like this new state, and you know,
they have all this propaganda about like the state's gonna
have are gonna restore the kingly way, and it's going
to be like a direct relationship between the emperor and

(30:07):
the will of the people, and there's gonna be these
like autonomous agrarian villages ruled by landlords and everyone's gonna
like live in harmony. And did that? Did that happen?
So so the strongest group in in in in this
like sort of nude fascist utopia. It is called the
Concorde Association, and they're this like they're this like fascist

(30:28):
pan Asian group that you know, they have this whole
line about like okay, we're doing ethnic harmony and like
all the races are gonna work together, We're gonna work
together to like expel the like the wide imperialists. And
the reason they take this line is that like the
actual Chinese people there don't want Thementaria, they don't want
the Manchucal government there because they're like, okay, all of
the officers in this thing and all of the government

(30:49):
officials or Japanese like this is this is just a
Japanese occupation, but you know, you have this sort of
this this fascist like mass organization, and their goal is
to build popular support for this because you know, the
Japanese can't really just purely hold this a military force
at this point. So they have this public government and
you know, for about two years they really they rule

(31:10):
like relatively unopposed. But in age thirty three, the Communist
Party sort of at the at the behest of the
U S s R. The USR is like, okay, you
guys need to do this, and so the CCP goes okay,
and what they do is that they start like the
series of insurrections launched at like driving the Japanese out,
and the Japanese responded by slaughter the entire villages very

(31:31):
kingly way, very very very harmony between the races that
there's you know, there's individual villages where they walk in
they killed they killed two thousand, five hundred people in
like a single massacre and you know, betweteen forty they
kill sixty people trying to suppress the communists, and they
move at five point five million people most mostly real

(31:51):
people into these like the ten thousands of these hamlets,
which I think if if if anyone studied the Vietnam
War and you were prestigia handlets from that, like this
is that like these handlets have they have three they
have three meter high walls, they have barred wire, they
have forced labor, and so you know, this is this
is this is the state of like this, this is

(32:11):
the state of like the Kingly Way in in in
sort of fascist menshuko. Yeah, and it's you know, I
mean one of the things that I think is and
that you were getting get earlier when people talk about
kind of the rise of the the o G fascists, um,
it tends to be very eurocentric, but there's very much
an open exchange of ideas that the Japanese are a
part of that's that's going, but that includes concentration camps

(32:33):
and it's not just and to that point, the Japanese
are probably they're they're not really I would doubt their
inspiration is the German concentration camps or anything that a
fascist well that a recognize like what we can traditionally
consider a fascist power zone. They were probably looking back
at the Spanish and the British, my guess, yeah, yeah,

(32:53):
and the United States possibly is the Spanish. The concentration
camp concept kind of originated from Spanish general who deployed
it in Cuba, but he got the idea from embedding
with the U. S. Military after the Civil War. Anyway, Yeah, well,
and you know, and you can you can treat it
sort of more directly too, because like all of that stuff,
you know, it boom boomerangs back to the Philippines and

(33:14):
the American occupation there, and like you know, then that
that's one of the things, this is one of the
reasons that that stuff, like all the stuff he uses
in the Philippines, that that is like in large part,
like that's a big part of the reason why this
sort of Japanese very fission to fascism is is popular
to some extent in East Asia because you know, okay,
but before they like really openly start to massacre everyone.

(33:36):
You know, it's just popular because I mean, japan Seed
is like the only power, you know, the only not
my power in the East that can that can resist
just the app I mean just the just incredible genocides
that just like absolute horror that that that that is
happening just across the rest of East Asia. Awesome, It's
it's great. And yes, so Keishi starts becoming interested in

(33:59):
Menshuk around nineteen thirty four, and partly he's interested in
it because of the fascism, but his big interest in
Machuqua is the natural resources in the sort of industrial
base it has, and through through his sort of position
in the in the government bureaucracy, she's able to start
working on on the first Manchuqua five year Plan. Now,
now it sort of weirdly, you know, the fascist officers

(34:23):
who are who are in the Japanese army there, uh,
they want this whole thing to be like an independent
like state that's like free from the like corruption of
liberalism and capitalism and stuff. From whatever that that like,
you know, it makes makes Japan like in Pierre and
like the loose relation to the empire. And she she
looks at this and goes like, okay, wait, but we
we want we want we want this state to help

(34:44):
run our war machine. And you know, and he this
five year plan is is this giant like war mobilization
thing to create this sort of they called the National
Defense State. But basically like it's turning the entire society
and the entire state, the entire economy into a war economy.
And his plan to do this is She's going to
bring in Nissan and have Nissan run like every war

(35:05):
industry in Manchuqua. Well, Nissan almost makes an acceptable truck,
so you know almost, you know, it verges on being
as good as a ram Uh. Look, Nissan cars are
are are all right, but don't don't use them for

(35:25):
agricultural work. Get it to coma. Now, if you're telling
me they wanted to put Toyota in charge of everything,
we say, that seems like a flawless plan. I'll bet
Toyota has never been involved in any kinds of crimes
against humanity. You know, there's there's that, there's there's like
a fun there's a fun thing here where So so
the there's these things in Japan called does I about

(35:46):
Sue and it's about and you know, there's these like
giant mega lambres like that the people who own like
Toyota are one of the conglomerates. Nissan is another one
of them. And like the army and most of the
fashions like hate these guys because they see these like
giant capitalist things. Is like this is like a Western thing.
It's like unpeered. They let these corrupt bureaucrats and again
in the way of us and the emperor, and so
like she she has to like do this incredibly elaborate

(36:09):
dance to convince all of the the fascist officers in
in in Manchukuo that like, no, no, no, Nissan is
not like Toyota, that they're they're not like the other conglomerates.
Y're not like Mishibi through a new conglomerate, and they're
they're gonna they're gonna do fascism for us. And this
works eventually, um and she gets transferred fully to Maduria

(36:30):
and all of this stuff gets approved basically because she's
moving in there and proposing this this five year plan,
which is the normal is expensive, by the way, But
but the reason, the reason that she's able to do
this is rights is getting in there. The Second Sino
Japanese War starts, which is part of World War two
kind of kind of its own thing. I don't know,

(36:51):
there's a lot of running arguments. They had a war
that was in its brutality and death toll comparable to
World War Two. With the same time World War Two
was going on. Um, you know, I occasionally Americans noticed it.
There's some good Woody Guthree songs that thank the mighty
Chinese vets. But um, yeah, you know what I mean,

(37:13):
like that, there's this whole thing like I mean like
like in China, like a lot like it's like that
whole war is called the Anti Japanese War or the
war resistance, because yeah, you know, because like like that,
like you know, for most of the time this is happening,
they from for about three or four years, China is
just fighting the entire Japanese army by itself, and you

(37:34):
know this is yeah, well we'll we'll we'll get into
the stuff that that that the Chinese government is always
going to sort of suffer in this. But you know,
but the consequence of this for Chi she is that
like he gets just total economic power and sort of
political power menure. He can just you can do literally
whatever he wants. And the thing that he wants to

(37:55):
do so okay. So so his big thing is his
big major thing is he wants to implement the five
year plan to you know, turn this Joe warconto me.
The second thing he wants to do is just get
absolutely wasted literally every single night, like he she okay,
well that scans Look if you're gonna be war crim
sober yeah no he yeah, And like you know, like

(38:16):
all of the sort of Japanese officers and Japanese bearcats
like go clubbing, but like even the other like the
other versa. I know, every now and then I go
out club and get a little drunk with my friends,
commit a couple of war crimes. This is padlock an
apartment gate closed with anyway, all right, what this continue? God? Well,

(38:43):
the thing with Kishi is like, okay, so everyone's doing
this a bit at the time. She she is literally
going to clubs and getting wasted every single night. Like
even the yakuza people are like, what are you doing
like it's like I have to take a second here
to tell the story about the absolute shattist Japanese officer
I've ever heard of. So when I was in I've

(39:04):
been Okinawa a couple of times because my parents lived
there for years and years and years, both when they
were kids and then later as adults. And like, I'm
not trying to like whitewash the problems with American bases.
There's a big, very active and I think very righteous
movement try to remove the basis on Okinawa. But we're
gonna talk about the origin of that too. Yeah, I
had I I had no no say in any of that.
My parents just lived there. Um. But so I went

(39:27):
on this tour of like sites from World War two
on on Okinawa, and one of the stories they told
us was about this Japanese officer who when the Americans
invaded Okinawa, he was at a brothel just like, had
been drunk and fucking for days, and they Americans advanced
quickly enough that by the time he sobered up, he
found himself several miles behind the American lines and alone,

(39:50):
hung over and having just fucked himself, silly snuck past
the American lines. Made it back to his unit and
then proceeded to lead them in battle for weeks. Is
incredible chat energy. You know. I say this so like
like this is just that's just the default condition of
the Japanese officer cord in this whole war like that,
that's like they like this is this is what they're

(40:12):
doing all of the time. If it weren't for the
millions of dead, it would be a real rock situation. Yeah,
Like you know, like we're not saying these dudes rock. No,
these dudes in fact do not rock. Do not rock.
And I'm going to emphasize this by like how cringe
Kishi actually is, Like okay, so there there's a quote
of Kishi where he he said he describes himself as

(40:33):
and this is a direct quote quote Playboy of the
Eastern World, Like she just calls himself this, okay, Yeah,
you know. He also spends just like an enormous amount
of time in in the brothels. Do we have a
picture of this man? I feel like I need a
visual of somebody who would dare to give themselves that title. Unfortunately,

(40:58):
most of the pictures of him are from like when
he's old Dick Pills look if you're gonna be, if
you're gonna if you're gonna be fucking like a Japanese
imperial officer, you're gonna need dick pills. Look, there's no
shame in it. Like the best athletes like Lance arms
Strong fuck Like yes, the saying is Keishi probably needed

(41:20):
dick pills. I'm sure he did. If you're going to
be the Lance arms Strong of lecherous Japanese military officers,
you're gonna use some. You're gonna dope, and that's fine,
and that's why we sell dope. Dick dope. Here's some ads. Okay,

(41:42):
this man is this man is not like Okay, Okay,
That's all I'll say is he's not it. Okay, But Sophie,
I think if if there's one reason why men join
imperial militaries and travel to foreign lands to do violence,
it's because it's yeah, he's here for them to get
laid that because they're not they're not. You know, people

(42:05):
who were like really pulling it in back home generally
don't invade foreign countries. I mean, fair enough, the Nazis
still not a lot of guys who were like knocking
it out of the park with the with the with
the exception of oh ship what was his name? The
guy Hitler had killed in the Night of Long Nights.
Ernst Rome was pulling it down, and it's baffling that

(42:27):
he became a Nazi in the ship. But anyway, whatever,
I mean, this man does have like a decent like no,
he doesn't take it. I've got I've gotten, Sophie, this
discussion on our side podcasts. How fuckable was this war criminal? Yeah,
I mean coming out on the I Heart radio network
and July of you just went back in time. But

(42:49):
that's so I know, Sophie, Chris. Would you like to
continue this podcast? We've del guest. Sophie's derailed you enough.
I will fight you continue. Yeah, well, I'd like to
see you try. Robert is actually like Robert is kind
of onto something on the like the reason you go

(43:09):
to do imperialism is so you can just like have
sex constantly. Yeah, absolutely, well you know and did yeah yeah,
And this is what the Japanese is doing it. And
this is where we should mention that Kishi is an
inveterate rapist, like like sereal mass rapist. Um. Yes, so
so those those brothels I was talking about, so well, yeah,

(43:32):
so there's there's like there's like a small number of
people in there who, like our sex workers, like eighty
to ninety percent of those people were just like kidnapped
from Japan and like brought there by force. And yeah,
and so you know, and this is you know, and
she's going there like every like one or two days. Right,
he's at one of these brothels. And you know, Okay,

(43:52):
even if like somehow, like by like some miracle, he
somehow only had conseexual sex there, he's also just like
he he's like he has one of the weirdest like
sex things I've ever heard of, which is that like
every time like he was served a meal, he would
demand to have sex with the raitress. Um. Yeah, it's yeah,

(44:12):
you know and like those those people, like those women
like absolutely did not consent to that, which means he
is like this man. Yeah, he is like raping people
like basically every day. So far as to say that
in most situations, you can't properly consent to a man
occupying your country with armed force, now, I will say

(44:33):
I will say so so because because he is a racist,
like inveterate racist, he will only sleep a Japanese women.
But those people were also brought there by force by
by the opposite and she so. So while he's imprisoned
in Ete forty eight, he has there he has an
interview and his description of this time is quote, I
came so much it was hard to clean it all up.

(44:54):
Like he has like he has he has a he
has a guy, Like he has a specific guy. He's
like a specific maid who's job it is to clean
up his sheets every night. Like yeah, he's God and
you know he's got to come servant. That's yeah, this
is like a thing. This is like a lot of
the like the weird Japanese sex fascists. Like there's like
a person who has to clean up all their ships.

(45:15):
Like there's there's I'm blanking on Blanco name. Like there's
that famous, uh, like fascist Japanese poet who's like like
the Japanese Nobel laureate who's a fascist and like kills
himself in the sixtet or something when when his coup fails,
like that guy. Also, yeah, like there's there's a person
who had to clean out his sheets and like his
robes and ship. Also check out my upcoming punk band

(45:38):
out weird Japanese sex fascist. Yeah. There, there's gonna be more.
Don't worry where we we have not yet reached the
weirdest of the Japanese sex fascist that's coming next episode. Yeah,
quotes in this episode already. Yeah, you know, but I mean,
like so like the fact that he's raping women like

(45:59):
every day. I think like this helps explain what otherwise
I think is kind of almost unexplainable thing that we're
going to talk about in a bit, just like the
amount of violence that we're about to see. But you know,
so the other thing that's happening here, she's going to
brothels like it's not It starts out as just like keis,
she's like a statistic rapist, but he also is doing

(46:21):
official business there, and and his official business is that
he's networking with local yakus at bosses. And this is
where we get to sort of like formally introduce the
third piece of the sort of fascist triad in Japan.
So you know, you have you have fascist army officers.
Do you have people like Kishi who are bureacrat technically
civilian bureaucrats, but you know, are also fascist and working
through the sort of planning agencies there, and the third

(46:42):
wheel is organized crime. Now the yakuza there there. You
know a lot of organized crime winds up sort of
backing fascists. But the yakuza are different from you know,
say like the Italian mafia in that they're like fanatically
right wing and they have been basically in the eighteen seventies,
and they're like these are like the Yakas are a
lot of people who invented fascism in Japan. Like they're

(47:03):
they're like they're like the first proto proto fascist groups.
Are are these like giant Yakasa organizations and they're I
mean they're really tied in with the state that there's
this story about how like so one of the one
of the first giant yakas a fascist groups is called
the Dark Ocean Society. And these guys, you know that
their triads like they did they're doing drug stuff. But
like the Japanese Ministry of the Interior asks them to

(47:25):
like this this isn't like ninety ten. They asked them
to help like Japan's stage and incident that will let
them invade Korea. And so like these guys like they
have like they have like special forces training myself. Oh no,
oh yeah, I mean you know, that's what's what you
do when you're young. Everyone's got to do a little
bit of invading Korea. It's yeah, yeah, well, as long

(47:46):
as you don't take it too far, it's fine. Oh boy, yeah,
we're well, yeah, we're we're gonna get your taking it
too far. But you know, like the thing is, like
these guys like they like break into the Imperial Palace
and assassinate the Empress of Korea. Like yeah yeah, Like
the like the Akasa, like they have they have military training,
they have intelligence training, they're they're incredibly efficient political source,

(48:09):
like like sort of private political operation. And when Kishi
meets with them, they basically just agree to solve all
of Kishi's funding problems. And you know, they can do
this because the japan like the Akasa has an enormous
amount of the accusan and Mentua is like an enormous
amount of money. And the reason I have this money
is because they run the drug trade. Like basically it's
a good way to make money. Yeah yeah, yeah, And

(48:31):
you know, and Kishi she basically like offers to like
formally let him into the Japanese state and you know,
and the everything is offering them was like, hey, you
guys want to do fascism, Like if you fund me,
I will do so much fascism. And the accus is
like hell yeah. And you know, and this is this
is the thing I don't think people understand, but about
the Japanese Empire, like it's a cartel, Like the whole
thing is a cartels. It's like a cartel with like

(48:52):
an army and a bureaucracy strap to it. And and
this is especially true true and menchu Quo, where you know,
with with Yakuza backing, like this project is like almost
self financing, like the you know, but by by by
by the mid nineteen thirties, like fully twenty percent of
the Japanese population is addicted to either opium, heroin or
one of the other drugs that the Yakas aren't running.

(49:12):
And this means that, you know, when when the Accusa
really start to formally ally with with the sort of
state government, and you know, the state government people are
also doing drug running, but you know, there's just like
full scale emergence and by that point, fifty of all
state revenue in manchu Quo is just from the drug trade,
and you know, like the Quantum Army, like they literally
like they start they launched invasions of parts of China

(49:34):
so they could take over opium and heroin factories, and
they just they just like start making heroin and opium
like for the Accusa. Because this whole thing is just
a cartel. Yeah, I mean everything is when you get
right down to it. Yeah, in the British are like,
this is a podcast cartel, and like any other cartels,
we're actively engaged in battling the Mexican military in the

(49:55):
foothills of of of northern Mexico. You know. Look, I
keep like I keep saying, Japan is China's Mexico mm
and and as a result, we are also fighting the
Japanese military in order to aid in the spread of
podcasts across the aisles. Um. They actually have taken no
efforts to stop us. So it's been very hard to

(50:17):
start those fights. But we're working on it. We're working
on it. Look, you can you can always get into
a gun battle with the facts, if if if you believe,
if you believe, Sometimes you have to force yourself into
being an armed cartel. Sometimes the state says what you're
doing isn't illegal, and there's no need for us to
have have an armed conflict. But you know, that's what
separates uh, you know, the cartels from the people not

(50:42):
committing organized criminal activity. So the sort of final stage
of this is that so Kishi's successor in has this
idea and you know, and you could just like persistently
has labor shortages, and his plan is, oh, wait, hold on,
we can use that. We can use the opium problem
to solve solve our labor problem. And so they start.
She sets up this like the series of these uh

(51:03):
what are supposed to be drug rehabilitation centers, and you know,
about two million like drug addicts show up to work
because you know, they show up to drug rebilization centers
because people like don't want to medict it. And what
the centers actually are is you walk into the center
and you walk on the back of the center, and
then you're into force labor camp. Yeah yeah, they got them,
they got It's great, it's great. And then and then yeah,

(51:24):
they tricked them. And then so there's like two hundred
thousands of people who like are brought by their families
and like they show up like they they're not physically
fit to work, So the Japanese government injects them with
what they call an opium detox supplement, and the opium
detox supplement is actually in fetamine. Means it's great and

(51:45):
it's funny. We just recorded the episodes that they're running
the week we we record this about like the Nazis
and drugs. But yeah, when meth first came out in
Nazi Germany, was obviously invented in Japan. But when meth
first got popular in Nazi Germany, it was advertised as
a treatment for opiate addiction. Um, which I guess, yeah,
if you get horribly addicted to meth, you you you

(52:08):
won't do as much opium. Yeah, well, you know what,
what what the Japanese government want out of this is
that like, okay, so these people can't physically move, and
we need a drug that can allow them to like
move so they can be our slaves. And yeah, so
that that that's that's a solution to that. And yeah,
so you know, not wanting to be outdone in the

(52:28):
sort of forced labor department. In August seven, she she
signs this bill that lets him just enslaved prisoners of war.
So sorry, sorted. It starts with POWs and is expanded,
and you know, by the time you get to the expansion,
it's like anyone doesn't have a job, where like anyone
they define as a bandit, which is like a bandit

(52:50):
is just anyone who doesn't like the government. And so
you know, Butty eight, it's okay, we can enslave just
anyone we see on the street, and the people who
aren't technically enslaved. She pushes this thing that he calls
unifying wages, which means forcing like everyone in you know,
every everyone in Mentriqua, including like just the other random

(53:13):
capitalists are still there to to lower all of their
wages down to to to like follow his planning model.
And when when I say lowering wages, what I mean
is that he figured. You know, Kishi's thing is that
he's a beercrat. Right's about efficiencies, on about rationality, And
the thing that he's rationally and efficiently decided is that
you should pay Japanese Chinese workers exactly enough they don't starve.

(53:35):
I guess it's better than paying them enough so little
that they do starve. Well, that that starts to happen too,
and then you know, yeah, yeah, and then the wage
the wages keep going down because they need to bring
labor costs down that you know, because that's the other
way they're funding all of this is by just not
paying people. Now, you know, and labor in Mentriqua had

(53:57):
already how already basically been a bunch of the acaste people,
like like a bunch of oks of people are in
the factory and if you take a step out of line,
they beat you. Now she she's like, okay, we're going
to rationalize this, and she's rationalization means that you know,
instead of it being independently the the aucus of hoting
these people to work for like nothing, Uh, he's going
to bring you know, he's gonna bring them into the

(54:18):
state and so you know, he's gonna replace the paramilitaries
with militaries. The accuser and the MP's are going to
get replaced with you know, bureacrats, regular police. And the
final thing this means is conscripting or enslaving like Chinese
male farm workers to work in work camps and then
forcing their families and children to work in the fields
in their place. It's yeah, and this this is where

(54:40):
the race science starts, because you know, Japan, Japan has
its own race science that they kind of developed by themselves,
and they kind of import from Europe and you know
this this is part of their like tailorism, like labor
discipline rationalization process is they start doing these quote unquote
scientific tests for for body shape, for cranial size, for

(55:02):
nose structure, and they turn these measurements into these like
basically racial baseball cards with like numerically ranked Yeah, yeah,
raceball cards. Yeah that they you know, they'll they'll be
like different points for like how much like like what
what the shape of your skull is, like how big
your noses? And these gives you more or less points,
and you like you hold up, you hold up the
raceball card, and you know you nextra a migrant worker

(55:25):
and you're like, okay, so which how how highly does
this person score? And I'm going to read a quote
from the book Absolute Erotic, Absolute Grotesque, which is a
history of this period of a title. Yeah, it's great,
it's it's it's it's an incredibly wild book. It's like
it's like half about fascism and half about the way
that it's sort of the way that it's driven by

(55:48):
what what this this like thirties Marxist like Japanese sociologist
calls the declining rate of pleasure, which is about how
like and you know, and I think this is this
is actually fist is what happens in Japanese Empire is
that you know, this is already a really violent place,
and you know, in order to sort of extract more
pleasure out of like sex, right, they start getting they
start going to stuff as more and more violence. And
this isn't just like a sort of like porn thing

(56:10):
or like the points more stream like no, no, like there.
They constantly have to seek out like more like increasingly
more violent ways of like raping people. And this is like,
you know, this is one of the sort of psychoses
that like drives this whole, like ex matsion project and
the other one, the other psychosis is racism. So yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna read this quote. Um. Actually, the
the s r M, which is the State Reeler Company

(56:31):
Studies classified coolies into three types, the Shandong type, Tohobei type,
and the Manchurian type, consistently making up over se of
all the North Chinese immigrant immigrant laborers. Shuang Dung coolies
were profiled as a quote thick gold type representing a
low level of culture and capacity quantities confirmed by their
strong backs and powerful grip. Their biometrics of large jaw cranials,

(56:56):
circumference of fifty five centimeters facial length at one point
three five to one point four times the line of
the lower jaw, prominent cheekbones, stupidity, big teeth, a bridge
of the nose that indicated docility, submissiveness, and barbarity added
up to quote a type perfectly suited for physical labor.
Who Abe coolies were a little smarter than those from Shendong,

(57:17):
Thanks so they're anthropologically superior cranial shape. Owing to this
racial profile, who coolies were seen as the best for
semi skilled labor of carpentry, plastering, and bricklaying. Wow, I
want one of those. I want I want that meme
of the two hands meeting in the middle. That's like
Western racists Japanese racists and in the middle exactly the

(57:39):
same ship. Yep, Like it's you know, what if? What if?
The things that I was realizing, like as I was
reading this is the extent to which Japan is basically
just like like Japan is just like like it's like
it's it's East Britain. Like they have cousin marrying, they
have all this weird pedophile stuff. They have this giant empire,
they have like all the skull measurement cranial stuff. They're

(57:59):
both from this island. They both have this just like
incredibly weird like sort of sort of psychoses embedded in there,
in there like like in international culture that like it's
it's a bummer that like one of the chunks of
Asia that most successfully resisted being colonized and being oppressed
by European powers did it that way by basically yeah,

(58:23):
by kind of like the British Empire but slightly different. Yeah,
and like you can like like I think, yeah, like Ethiopia,
which like for a long time sort of like successfully
like repelled repelled etons, repelled or colonial forces, and they
like don't do this. Yeah, it's a likely way to

(58:44):
do things. Yeah, yeah, they're like, you know, there were
other ways. It's just the Japanese were like imperialism, what
if we did it? And you know, and you know,
I think part of this is that like you know,
in order to be able to do forced labor, right,
Like it is actually kind of hard to get human

(59:05):
beings to like make other like compel other human beings
by forced to do things. And you know, and this
sort of necessitates developing this like this sort of like
European style race science or just like keep the forced
labor system alive. And you know, this is this racism
and the mode of race theory. It's not confined to
sort of just like lower rank over people like Keishi

(59:28):
Keshi is an inveterate racist, Like he goes on everyone
who worked around him at the time. We'll talk about
he would just like stop in the middle of like
I'm beating and go on this rant about how all
Chinese people are like lawless bandits and capable of following
rules and all of this. Yeah, you know, and you know,
and his solution to that is like, well, okay, so
Chinese people like inherently can't follow laws because of racial stuff.

(59:50):
So the only way you can get them to do
things is by like treating them like a dog and
just beating them, which is you know, not hire street dogs.
But you know, and and this this just like pervasive
racism is a big part of how you get everything
that happens next. So the Japanese like atrocities and chuqua
are are so bad that we don't have time to
talk about Unite one, which is Japan's like well that's yeah,

(01:00:13):
it's own episode. The whole thing. That's Japan's kind of
Doctor Mangela mixed with Auschwitz. Yeah. Yeah, they test you.
I mean they do a bunch of likes, but whatever
you get. Yeah, yeah, it's like basically they're doing biological
weapons testing on like live Chinese and Russian prisoners, like
A grade crimes against humanity and the Scottie Tiff of

(01:00:35):
crimes against humanity. You know, if it's I don't know basketball,
I assume he was right, Sophie. He was the best
point guard of all of the touchdown footballer. You're doing
great birdies serving bicycle. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, it's really got

(01:00:57):
bro parts of that were me joking. Hearts all right,
please Chris continue. So, so Unit seven one is operating
under Kichi sturistiction, like you know, it's operating in in
metrical while he's there under sturisdiction, and we don't have
time to talk about that. That needs its own episode.

(01:01:17):
What we are going to talk about next time is
Japan's forced labor system. Oh yeah, now that sounds you
mean by forced labor, I assume you mean like Jedi, right,
Like it's it's we're gonna talk about Star Wars now
we're gonna pivot. I mean, I think I think the
Japanese would have benefited from just having the ability to
mind control people. And you know, I guess like militaries

(01:01:39):
would have. Yeah, yeah, and you know, I guess the
Jedi do like kidnap children and like educate them into
a religious cult, so you know, and they also they
also employed an enormous child slave soldier army. So yeah,
it is Star warship because let us know how many
Star Wars fans get in your very Yeah. Yeah, well

(01:02:03):
all right then, so we'll be back. We'll be back tomorrow.
Because this is a motherfucking three parter, a mother fucking
three parter. There's just something. There's just so much ship
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