Friends 5ever!

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm
your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology
and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, we're talking
about interspecies, buddies, friends, pals, comrades, and chumps who don't
see speciation as a barrier to friendship. We'll talk about

(00:27):
the difference between mutualism and commence alism, why every birdie
loves a cappy barra, and how the beaches of the
Galapagos are a great place for friendship and also the
only time you want to be inside the mouth of
a giant moray discover the some moore. As we answer
to the angel question, do some animals actually enjoy getting

(00:47):
crap from their friends? Just so you know, our producer
Joel Monique will return in a few weeks, so we'll
get to hear her lovely voice again soon. Today on
the show, I've invited my good friend, artist and filmmaker
Randall Maynard. Welcome, Thank you. Do I talk now? This
is where I talk. You talk now, This is where

(01:08):
you talk. This is how all of our this is
how all of our conversations go. Where I have to
tell Randall like, this is where you talk now, this
is where is this? What's what's going on? I say,
what's going on? Where am I? And then you explain
the situation. I'm so confused, but I just go along
with it because it's like, why, let's just let's just
go ahead. That's that's fine. I'm talking about animals. Yeah,

(01:30):
we're talking about animals. I just want to let you
know that I came prepared by bringing a tiny plastic
turtle that I'm shoving into the webcam. And it's also
unrelated to every animal we're gonna be talking about in
this episode mostly. But yeah, no, I appreciate the turtle,
the turtle drop as we like to I don't feel

(01:51):
like you do, but I thank you for lying. Yeah.
Now that's what keeps, Honestly, what keeps friendships afloat are
nice lies, kind lies like yeah, that's great that that
plastic turtle you're showing me. I love it. Oh, but
you did give me a very nice gift. You gave
me a Creature feature podcast action figure of me surrounded

(02:13):
by various like scorpions and horn toads. It's very lovely.
I will be posting that to the Creature Feature Instagram,
which is at Creature Feature Pod on Instagram. So check
that out to see. It's definitely on the shelves at
every store. You know, It's at Target and Walmart and

(02:38):
Price Co and Toys for Kids remember that are us,
we are toys. Yeah, but that thank you for I
couldn't think of a toy store that was currently open,
either to uh just closing in general or because of

(02:59):
the pandemics, so wherever toys are found. But it basically
has just like a fistful of plastic creatures jammed into
the package with you, which I thought was the best
representation of your relationship with animals. Were just to be
literally surrounded by them, Yeah, in a closed type quarters

(03:20):
in a transparent bubble. Yeah. Could you could you make
these like they're like action figure these sort of special
action figures where it's you know how it has like
the plastic box that it's in and then the cardboard
backing and then it says Creature Feature Podcast Special. So
it's very very lovely you've made all sorts of these

(03:40):
two Um will definitely plug those later, you're Yeah, this
is I just I'm gonna yeah, it's gonna just lead
to the whole episode is gonna be talking about toys
that I make. Yeah yeah, and co opting your podcast
to talk about toys. But also no, because because I
will be arrested by the podcast. Try funeral for for DV.

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And you know, today we're talking about friendship and I
feel like there is a lot of complexity between animals,
and often we just kind of called them symbiotic relationships.
Sometimes people get confused about like symbiosis, because often symbiosis

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is just a general term for animals who work together
or benefit from each other, when in fact, symbiotic relationships
describe any linked relationship between two animals. So it can
be positive, it can be negative, it can be deadly.
Um So, parasitism is a symbiotic relationship, and that is,
of course where one animal leaches off of another to

(04:43):
its detriment or even death. There's a movie about that
called Venom that if you can watch that, and it'll
tell you all you need to know about symbiosis. It's
where an alien attaches itself to Tom Hardy and it
becomes a big monster, and it's just it's a perfect
example of what you're talking about. Let me go through
the terms and you tell me, what is symbiote and

(05:05):
Tom Hardy's relationship in that movie, because there is there
are positive symbiotic relationships such as mutualism where both organisms
benefit and commence ali is um where one benefits but
the other is neither harmed nor hindered in any way.
So it's it's kind of a lopsided relationship, but the

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one of the animals just like it's totally indifferent. It
doesn't matter at all. I actually haven't seen what's that?
What's the movie? It's called Venom? Venom? Yeah, how would
you describe Tom Hardy and the goose suits relationship. It's parasitic,
But it's confusing because I think it combines a few
of those things where it's there is a there's a

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mutual benefit also, but there's also there's a parasitic nature.
But I think once it's I think, honestly, like if
if I'm being totally candid and respect to the creator's venom,
I think, once the it's it's just I'm just parasitic.
But then once it it gets on a certain host
and it becomes cool that it's it's not a danger

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anymore in the sense of for the sake of drama.
The parasitic part only comes back if it's necessary. Otherwise
it's a mutual, beneficial sort of thing where they're they're
helping each other. I guess yeah, so um yeah, yeah,
so it's combining. It's kind of like it's it's rolling
through all the levels of friendship, yeah, where it starts

(06:33):
off as a sort of parasite and then turns into
mutualism as all healthy relationships. I was gonna say, just
like our friendship, where I started off where I was
very you described me as very parasitic, but then eventually
came around to finding it to be mutual, and then
now have evolved in to complete indifference. Just exactly at

(06:54):
first sucking all of my blood. Then I was like, hey,
I had too much blood anyways, too much blood floating around.
I'm glad he got rid of some of it. And
then now it's just like I don't care whether or
not my blood is gone. Just take the blood. It
doesn't matter anymore. Nothing matters. It's who cares well. So

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our first group of animals we're going to talk about
are on the Galapagos Islands, which is home to really
incredible creatures that have evolved in very difficult evolutionary niches.
Of course, it's the famous place that Darwin went and
farted around in and wrote his silly books about. But
it really is incredible not just to see like the

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cool animals, but also to see how their relationships are
with each other. And I think the best demonstration of
this is the seaside friendships along the coast of the
Galapagos Islands. And let's start with the marine iguana, because
the marinea iguana is very interesting animal who has a

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bunch of friends. So the marine iguana is it looks
very dragon like. And this is the really mean description
that Charles Darwin had for marine iguanas that I think
is kind of unfair. So he said, quote, the black
lava rocks on the beach are frequented by large two
to three foot or point six to point nine most

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disgusting and clumsy lizards. They are as black as the
porous rocks over which they crawl and seek their prey
from the sea. Somebody calls them imps of darkness. They
assuredly will become the land they inhabit. Did he say
somebody called them that? Like he heard that? Yeah, real
weasel words. Darwin just like insult them to their face,

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not be like, oh, somebody said you're an imp of darkness.
I heard out there that they're calling him. It's not me,
it's it's you know. That's just what I hear. This
is a that's word on the that's word on these
the word on the beach, word on the beach, on
these rocks, is that you guys are called imps. Who
else was there that was calling him that? Nobody? He's

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he doesn't even want to is he's scared of He's
scared of disparaging these creatures, even in writing, like taking
a finch and giving it a swirly gonn to cancel, Darwin.
He's just angry and just calling animals ugly. That's not scientific.
You're like, oh, this one's really dark and ugly. Look
at that piece of ship. It's an imp of darkness.

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And the poor little Maria Bile just like I know,
he's just minding his own business, trying to regulate pal.
I'm just trying to get some thermal regulation. Didn't ask
for your opinion. You're interrupting some really good therma regulation
just to spew your hatred, Darwin. And to be fair,

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what's sad is that Darwin missed out on an opportunity
because this, I want to clearly has a better relationship
with a rock that it does with a human, and
being that visited the island, they could have could have
had a great time with the partying with the iguanas.
I mean seriously, like, if Darwin hadn't been so judging,
probably would have had a great time with these iguanas

(10:13):
because they are really cool, cool reptiles. So they are
indeed ashy, black, are kind of chunky, they have sort
of a snub face, um, they have spines running along
their backs, they have long, thick tails, and they're about
the size of a small to medium sized chihuahua. And
they do like to hang out on the lava rocks

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on the coast of the Guapagos Islands because they are
cold blooded, which doesn't mean that their blood is always cold.
It just means that they are ectothermic, meaning that they
have to warm themselves up by sitting in the sun
and cool themselves off by being in the shade or
in the water. And so when they aren't hanging out
on the rocks heating up, they're actually often diving into

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the water because They are excellent swimmers, and their diet
is made up mostly of algae, so they're very they're
just little vegetarians. They nibble off of rocks this algae,
or they dive underwater and swim very gracefully, like some
kind of sea dragon. And one of the consequences of

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them eating algae is that they take in so much
salty water with their diet they have to expel some
of the excess, which they do with these like salty
wet sneezes. So yeah, just like a seed dragon, except
they snort out salt water instead of fire of fire.
It's just this horrible right sling. It's not saltwater everywhere mucus.

(11:48):
That's projection as human. Sorry, that was that was That
was very darwinianen of me to just so judgment salt.
Now it's really just like a spray of salt water. Yeah,
that's gotta be grosser, it's gotta be awesome at the
same time. Uh. I don't know why, just because it's
like an experience. I don't know why not. I don't

(12:10):
know why. I think I sneezed dragons a little shot
of like vizzy, you know, clear out your yes, Yeah,
what's you're problem, Like, you haven't had that names of
spray that helps clear the sciences. Just shove one of
these marine iguanas under your nose and there you go.
Go find an iguana. Find it clear you right up.

(12:30):
Don't actually do that because they're actually they'reguas. They're not dangerous.
We're dangerous to the iguanas. We can actually like they
are they lit humans pick them up. They just because
I just don't think they understand how much danger of
human poses. So they're pretty chill, especially when they're lethargic
and they haven't warmed up on the rocks yet. They

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get very sleepy. So when you pick one up, it's
just kind of like chills out. But you shouldn't do that.
I mean, yes, they could potentially bite you, but more importantly,
you carry pathogens that could hurt the iguana. So don't
do it. Leave those iguanas alone. As we've learned this year,
the one thing Americans care about the most is not
hurting each other with I mean, it's funny because like

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on the Galapagos Islands, they tell people to stay like
six ft away from the iguanas. So already we've tried
to get people to social distance from the vulnerable. So right,
and so the iguanas does standard chance. But we still
love them. They're great, Darwin dar No matter how much
should Darwin talks about these, they're fantastic, right, And a

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lot of animals do love the iguanas, so they actually
have um. They do have a few predators, so they
will be kind of snippy when disturbed to protect themselves,
but otherwise they're pretty chill, and they will be extremely
permissive of little visitors who come to them. So among

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their friends there are Darwin's finches and sally lightfoot crabs
who come over to the iguanas and pick off mites
and ticks and dead skin and basically give them free
skincare in return for just being able to eat whatever
they find. So it's not in common to see crab

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crawling all over an iguana picking at it, and the
iguana is perfectly happy to let this happen because this
is a case of mutualism. The iguana gets free skincare,
gets its parasites taken off of it, and the crab
gets a tasty meal of skin junk. Yeah it's uh
and and and to be h to paint a picture
of this. It looks horrifying, and I would assume, as

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a human that that I would need to intervene if
I saw something like this, because it looks like an
iguana is being eaten by a swarm of crabs, and
I would be like, no, don't, I gotta save us
iguana and broom he. I guess as much as a

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lizard can show happiness on there with their limited facial expression,
I would say it's more of a contentment, like he
looks he doesn't. He doesn't seem alarmed. It doesn't seem
alarmed that he's covered in crabs. However, if I woke
up covered in crabs this way, this would be terrifying.
But so yeah, I guess. I guess the lesson to

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take away is let creatures eat things off your skin
if you want, exactly. That's the lesson of the day.
If you see if you see an iguana covered in crabs,
don't freak out and bring a broom and start sweeping
them off because they're doing their own thing. You gotta
let let animals do their own right exactly. And another
thing you should not be alarmed if you see is

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an iguana wearing a little lizard as a hat. So
there are these little tiny lizards called lava lizards that
are just like a few inches a few centimeters big,
so they are literally like smaller than the head of
one of these iguanas. But they will climb up on

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the iguana for a better vantage point when hunting flies.
And this doesn't necessarily help out the iguana because I
don't think flies are able to really pestor the the
iguana have such thick skin that the flies can't really
bite them, it can't really get bother them. But the
lava lizards don't bother them either, so they just ignore

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the little lava lizards let them crawl all over and
catch flies from this great vantage point. And it's it's
very cute to see because it's this tiny lizard. It's adorable.
It's a lizard hat. And it's funny because the lizards,
like I have the high ground, but it's at the
top of the head of another animal, which is a

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little bit confusing to me. I think it would find
there's probably higher things to get on top of, but
they've just decided that unless it's alive, they're not gonna Technically, though,
there is a taller perch that they do use, which
is the sea lion who welcomes the little lava lizards
because the lava lizards eat up these flies, and the

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sea lions are actually pestered by these flies. Seem much
more bothered by them than the iguanas do, probably because
they you know, they get in their eyes and and
they kind of like bother them. They get they can
get on their fur and it's annoying. So the lava
lizards will just crawl over these sea lions and jump.

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They literally leap in the air and snap the flies
right out of the air. As the sea lions seems
very content to have this happen because it's a personal
fly swatter going around getting rid of all the flies.
I'd be stoked if I could have a setup like that,
I know, right, just your personal fly hunter going around. Yeah,

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I love that. Put them on your put them in
your ear like a like a flower or a bluetooth
little headset, and you get a little lizard there and
you're like, hey, buddy, right, anybody just hang out right here,
don't even worry about it. And then if you see
a fly, just get that thing exactly. And the sea
lions and the marine iguanas also co exist peacefully, so

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they don't really help each other, but they don't really
bother each other either, And the sea lions even allow
the marine iguanas to kind of crawl on top of
them because you know, there it just doesn't they don't
really compete, they don't have many conflicts, so you have,
um uh, you know that. This just very interestingly how

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you can see all sorts of different relationships between animals
living on this shoreline. Where you have mutualism where the
sea lions like the little lizards snap up flies around them.
You have commence alism where the lava lizards snap up
flies around the marine iguanas even though the marina iguanas

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don't really need the help. And you have mutualism of
the crabs eating the skin and parasites off of the
marina iguanas. It's just it's really cool. It's like, you know,
this big old beach party of all these animals. Gonna say,
there's a whole shoreline culture that's outstanding because it's just
creatures crawling all over each other, freely, using each other

(19:20):
as mountains they watch whatever. It's basically it's bay watch
with lizards. Don dun dun dun dunt John. And by
the way, we edit that out of the show because
that we can pitch that right right, I'm just imagining
a lizard running across the beach and slow motion. Definitely
not imagining a lizard with boobs. That's not happening. So

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don't god lizard and a mikini. Don't think about a
lizard in a bikini, do you think about it? Think
about a lizard covered in crabs and how that is okay?
And it's beautiful. Actually it's horrible looking. It's a beautiful

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it's friend. It looks like monsters eating each other. But
we should we should think of it as a beautiful thing.
I blame Darwin for this feeling that I have this
this bias that I have against the lizards, and and
you know, I feel like this this set off a
chain reaction because he comes back, he writes his book.
By the way, you can find all his writing. Darwin

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did about the shoreline of uh can you edit in?
That sounded like I know what I was talking about
here in the O the Virgin Islands speak the Cayman
Islands or whatever. Lava Town, USA, Lava Town. It's actually
just called lava Town. Yeah. When he's Darwin write about

(20:49):
his lizard adventures and all this ship talking. You can
read about that in his book Lizards are bullsh by Darwin,
and it's just a lizard with the middle finger pointing
at it on the cover. You can't miss it. Yeah,
but I think that led directly to Godzilla and a
stigma to lizards. I have read that the lizards are Bullshit.

(21:13):
It's actually kind of a required reading and most evolutionary
biology courses it's considered the seminal text on evolutionary biology.
So yeah, no, I am familiar with with that famous work.
Thank you. I wasn't questioning it. But that's okay, you
can go ahead and just just go ahead and brag
about that. And then his his sequel to lizards are

(21:34):
Lizards are Bullshit? Two? Oh, it turns out we all
are lizards. We all came from lizards. Right. It's like, sorry,
it's a redaction mostly, but it's it's fine, what do
we know? Lizards are bullshit? There's no way we're related
to them. Part two? Whoops, we are sorry, but that

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turns out by Darwin, and that's why, you know, That's
an important thing about science. It's constant evolution of theories.
Gross I'm editing. People are wrong a lot, No, no,
leave it in it all stays in the Galapagos Islands

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are not always such a friendly place, especially for babies.
As soon as marine iguanas hatched from their eggs, they
are immediately cast into the most dangerous peril of their lives,
running from their hatchery towards the coast to escape the
jaws of the swift, merciless Galapagos race or snakes who
love to pick off hatchling iguanas. The iguana sprint as

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soon as they hatch, trying desperately to outrun and dodge
the many snakes who congregate to feast upon them. It's
amazing that these poor little iguanas grow up to have
such a mellow disposition. When we return, we're going to
visit the reigning champion of chillness, the most bodacious buddies
of the animal kingdom, the cappy baras. Who's the biggest

(23:05):
rodent of them all? Is it the rat? Not by
a long shot? Is it a spiny porcupine? Close but
not yet. How about a beaver who can topple trees
and capnee. Nope, the biggest rodent in the world is
the capa bara and it is one of the most
laxed animals in the world. Now, as I've been saying this,

(23:26):
Randall has been holding a dinosaur in the camera and
making it talk, which I feel like I have to
um just sort of inhabit the space, the mental space
of the capybara to be able to ignore the shenanigans
going on with the dinosaur. So thanks for the dinosaur interlude.

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But now we are going to talk about the capybara,
which is the largest rodent in the world that lives
in South America near bodies of water in Savannah's and forests.
And it is a big old guinea pig and and
most famously the pet of the Tick from the animated

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series The Tick where he thought he found a dog
that could talk, but he was hallucinating and it turned
out he stole a capybara from the jungle and it
was in very terrible shape. Yes, yes, I I too
remember that episode of the nineties famous popular TV animated

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series The Tick. Yeah, but now they are actually kind
of the size of a dog, like imagine a guinea
pig just sized up to be bigger than a golden retriever.
It weighs about seventy two hundred and forty pounds, so
that's thirty two to sixty four and they grow to
be almost five ft long one point five meters and

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two ft high point six meters, so g D huge
is what terms are chunk masters, they're they're they're just big.
They're big, they're chunky, and they're funky and so yeah,
they are like guinea pigs in a lot of different

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ways to other than just their appearances. They are very
chill social animals. They are living groups from about ten
to up to a hundred, and they um like guinea
pigs and rabbits and other rodents. Uh, they eat their
own feces or it's actually a special type of poop

(25:43):
that they eat called the Sika trope that has undigested
fermented sugars in it, which sounds great. I mean, yeah,
if it's sugar even then why not? Yeah, I mean
you know what I say, If it's sugary, why if
it's sugary and it comes out of your butt, sure

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why not? Yeah? Yeah great? Yeah, So you know, they
eat their sugary duties, so they are actually semi aquatic
as well. They are extremely good swimmers with webbed feet,
and they can take naps in the water to stay cool,

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so they just float in the water with their snouts
resting against the shore and just sleep. They're like the
surfer dudes of the animal Kingdom, except they mostly lived
near freshwater sources. But yeah, they're just like very the
very definition of chill. Like you look up chill, you

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just see a capybara sitting eyes closed, chilled, chilled out.
A capabara capabara always looks like you just smoked and
j and he's like, what's up, man's let's go on.
What do you want to do? Yeah? You want you
want to eat some of my sugary poop I just had.
I just I just dropped some for you. And you're like,

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you know, you don't want to be rude, but you
gotta be like, I'm not gonna do that, but thank you, No,
d it's fine, pooped enough for both of us, head
in and out. Now that's and there's like, that's okay,
I already. Me me poop is too poop, Yeah, you
know me me dukie is sued dukie as they say,

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as they say, as the Cathy Barra says. So, yeah,
they are very calm animals, and they have a lot
of cool bird friends. Who doesn't like to have coolbird friends?
So many cool birds and they are all friends, coolbird friends,
cool bird friends. Coming this Saturday on Saturday mornings on
Fox Fox Kids, which doesn't exist anymore, because that's a

(27:58):
hundred year old reference. Yeah, coming a bird friends. So
black vultures, Jukana's cowbirds and many other birds perch on
capa baras and clean ticks and other parasites off their skin.
So again a bit a bit like the light footed
crabs cleaning off ticks and junk off of the iguana.

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These birds will sit on the capa bara and clean
ticks and stuff off of them. Let me also just
point out, by the way this objectively, if you saw
a capa bara laying down on land and the vulture
was on top of it pecking at it, right, you
would not assume that was a positive symbiotic relationship. It

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would look like you just ran into the corpse of
a capa bara being eaten right, just viciously, mercilessly devoured
by a vulture, and you'd be like, oh my god.
And then it's like and then someone would, hopefully someone
would explain to you, perhaps the spirit of Darwin would
come to you and say, do not be afraid. It
is a chet friendship therein what Darwin would what Darwin

(29:09):
would say would be God, damn, that is an ugly dog. Yeah,
he'd be like, look at these ugly animals. That's stupid
giant pig am I right, and try to ghost hie
five you and you'd be like, get out of here.
It looks like hell. Earth is hell. That's what That's
what Darwin said. And Darwin's my favorite quotes. I'm just

(29:29):
saying Earth is hell. And then right before he died
the Origin of Species, a book of total ugoes. Yeah,
Darwin was a mean It was a mean, mean girl.
So the capa bara will even allow birds to write
on them like they are the bird's noble steed. And
birds not only clean parasites off the capa bara, which

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is a mutualistic relationship, they also will perch on them
as a cappa bara trots around and wait for insects
to get stirred up from the grass that the cava
barra is striding in and then they will go off
and snap up the insects. So basically they are like

(30:13):
hunting on capa bara back and the cappa bar is
happy enough to let them do it. It doesn't really
get anything out of that specific relationship, but it's you know,
they're just very chill, they're all right with it. Yeah,
birds kind of trade them like horses. I would say
this was the parasitic exploitation if if I don't know
if that's part of the thing, but I would I

(30:34):
would add that on there, onto the one of those levels,
because they're not parasitic exploitation. Yeah, because this is just
a bird going like, oh look an animal I can
hang out on, and if it rides around then I
don't have to fly or walk or anything. That's cool. Well,
but if it doesn't negatively affect the capa bara, which
it doesn't, then it's just commence ali is um. Because

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the bird benefits in the capa bar is like whatever,
it's fine, it's cool. That's true because it has course
for it's got that. It's got like the layers of fur, right,
because it's because since since it goes in the water,
it's got that what it's called the water hair for
and they don't really you know, bird feet don't really

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bother them that much. I don't think the bird feet
are really bothering them too much. I mean, I mean,
it's it's like you could pick it all apart and say,
like this bird is kind of an asshole, right, like
if it picks too hard at it, like that bird
specifically maybe in a hole, but yeah, in general, like
the relationship with the birds, like it either helps the
cap of barrow because the bird is cleaning their fur,

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or it just it's fine. It's like, you know, it's
got a bird on its back. Now, who's going to complain?
That looks badass. One thing I'm really resentful for when
I see nature and I see how far we've disconnected
ourselves from animals, because I really I love animals and
I don't want to brag, but I eat plant based.
I don't need any I don't need animals love it.

(31:59):
Uh uh they're the best. And the thing that bums
me out is how in nature animals just land on
each other and they're super cool. And I wish as
humans we had evolved to just be super chill with
animals and landing all over us where we like to
land on us, like the most Quito, the noblest that's

(32:19):
a little different, Yeah, the dynamics a little different. And
then there's other animals that that that try to grab
us and it's horrific, like the like the condor which
tries to just grab a human and just lifted off
the ground to go. Do you think this happens, Oh,
I've heard all of it. It happened. I like how
you just casually drop this, like you know, like how

(32:41):
condors go and grab you. You know how that happens
all the time. Yeah, yeah, you know, you know that's
what they're doing out there. But this pro bird behavior
with Cappa barros means that in captivity they lit ducks
just walk all over them. And I provided a video
which I will include in the show notes that shows

(33:03):
ducks just trouncing all over this poor capa bara who
doesn't seem to mind they are eating. I think they
are eating like parasites off of the capa bara, So
I think it's getting some benefit. But it does look
like it's a gang of ducks just bullying this capa barbing.
What are you gonna do about it? I'm sitting on

(33:24):
it I'm sitting on you. What are you gonna do
about it? Nature? So far, aren't you? You just come
over here, lazy boy, let me sit on you now.
But the ducks, the ducks are actually helping him by
cleaning his fur. Yeah, I see, that's so they're they're cool.
And the capavar is cool with everything, so it doesn't matter.

(33:45):
He's like old school chill. He just doesn't he doesn't
care about anything. The baby capa bears, by the way,
if you see one, we'll just melt your heart. That's
that should be a good test of like whether or
not someone is capable of empathy or some sort of like, right,
the new psychopath test baby capybara. And if it doesn't,

(34:07):
if they don't go, oh my god, oh that's the
cutest thing I've ever seen. Oh, I don't even know
what to do. Then there it's like, you know, it's
like blade runner. Then you just got to shoot them
whatever they right, right, I forgot you forgot holp. You know.
They just you know, if you don't cry when you
see a capabara, you have no soul. That's what science says.

(34:29):
That's the takeaway. Yeah, well, so I want to talk
about another instance of an animal being surprisingly chill when
another animal just kind of like sits on it goes
all around. And have you ever heard of this thing
where like it's actually a myth of birds sitting inside

(34:49):
of crocodile mouths and picking cleaning their teeth. The idea
is that these Egyptian plovers will sit inside a nile
crocodile's mouth and clean meat from their teeth without getting
eaten by the crocodile. Like their nature's little dentist. I
guess it's like one of those factoids that gets spread around. Yeah,

(35:11):
it's like the ostrich with the head and the sand
kind of right, right, Like there's just not that the
evidence of it is paper thin. So it's just something
that like probably some like old dude noted in some diary,
like yeah it was it was all a nile crocodile
and it had buds in its mouth. Who would have fought?

(35:32):
And we just take that as fat But he's really
just tripping balls on opium or something. Yeah. Right, it
was about on my journey is and I I began
to see a bird and I'm sure it was some
sort of dentist bird. I mean, that's that much, we
can surmise confidently. Then in the sun turned into a

(35:56):
baby's head. But there is an actual, real instance of
something like this happening that to me is even more impressive.
And you have to go under the sea, you know,
like the screen wipe wher it goes all like and
there's like bubbles and so it looks like you're going underwater.

(36:20):
Imagine that happening like water. Yeah, that's how it sounds.
Wooboy booby, that's really good. Fully work. That's very good,
fully work. Thank you. That's so buddy. But so under

(36:43):
the water, there are these cute little fish called cleaner rass,
and they like to dart in and out of the toothy,
demonic smile of large moray eels that could easily just
snap the little fish right up like it's nothing and
just slurp it up like it. Have you seen more

(37:06):
a eel before, just like hanging around like in person
or uh yeah, like when you get picked up and
they drafted me into the water. Yeah, when I fight
it off and I landed into the shore, Yeah, then
I like I'm like, oh, the eels carried me to safety.
Uh yeah, that's of course, of course. I mean, we've

(37:28):
talked about this before. I don't know how many times
I have to tell you about it. Yeah. No, they're
flotsam and jetsam. In Little Mermaid they're mores. That's a more.
And so the Little Mermaid the flotsam and jetsam, they're
the eel. They're the eel things that are Ursula's pets,
the companions. Oh I forgot that part? How could you forget?

(37:49):
The Ursula and those eels were the whole movie? To me,
I could give less of a Cara Aeriel and her
whole like teenage drama, Like there's a cute bool, I'm
gonna I'm gonna abandon my tire ecosystem just for this
cute boy. But no, like where it's at is octopus,
Ursula and her cool more friends, she's I don't remember.

(38:10):
The bird combing is feathers with a fork, And that
was my big takeaway from the movie was that birds
don't know a bit about combing the hair. Well, they
do know about like grooming their hair, just not with forks.
You know, I'm not with forks. Yeah, you can't. You
can't learn everything you need to know about being a
human through birds, especially through seagulls. You cannot trust seagulls.

(38:32):
I think that is the other lesson. Yeah, you can't
trust seagulls. You may think this is unrelated to what
we're talking about if you're listening to this, but and
it is not, because it comes back full circle. So
don't trust seagulls. So don't never trust back to the eel,
because always trust an always always, because they're they're honest

(38:52):
and they don't eat the little fish that go in
their mouth. Right. Well, what happens is the more is
actually a client of the cleaner rass who goes around
the more's mouth and its lips and its head and
picks off little parasites and cleans their mouths. So it

(39:14):
is acting as like a little fish dentist and dermatologists
all rolled into one cute little package. And these cleaner rests,
they're little fish. They have this blue streak or another
bright colored streak along their side that actually signals to
fish that these are the cleaner rast So it's like
this dark band on their side, and then it's it's
branding essentially that fish learn that if you live, these

(39:37):
little cleaner wrasts clean you up, then you're you will
get a nice bit of free skincare. It's not just
more a eels. They will offer free parasite removal for
mini fish and they actually have little cleaning stations where
fish literally line up like they're at a car wash.
So the one accurate thing in that terrible movie what

(39:58):
was it, like a shark tail is sort of trying
to ride on the coattails of finding Nemo. Nobody remembers
had an eye right right, but they didn't. I don't know.
All I remember is the fish like making sex faces.
And then also like they had a fish car wash,

(40:19):
and that is actually accurate. So yeah, and so like
you'll have fishes lining up to get serviced by these
cleaner rass and get get fully detailed, and the cleaner
rass get to eat parasites from the fish. And we've
actually talked about this before on the show, how there's
this whole really interesting kind of economy of fish and

(40:41):
cleaner rass where the cleaner rass, if they start to
nibble at the fishes flesh itself, where like at their
stress coat, the fish will boycott the cleaner rass. And
then if the fish like eat a cleaner rass instead,
of just patiently allowing the pickoff parasites, the cleaner rass
will ban them from their services and a northm so
other cleaner raps will be like, no, you ate my friend,

(41:02):
I'm not your you know, no no shoes, no shirt,
no eating my friends. Please, you ate with cleaners. So
it's like if you rob a bank and you get
that exploding ink on you version of that he except
it's like you we all saw you eat Fred. You
can't come back. You can't come back to bow Jangles.

(41:25):
You ate, one of our waiters. Speak from experience, but
just something to be clear about because when these little
fish are called cleaner rass and it keeps sounding like
cleaner ass and it's cleaner rass w R A S
S E, and it could sound like either cleaner rats,

(41:48):
which you don't want to get confused. You want people
to be confused with rats and fish. It happens all
the time, and that's that's terrible. And then cleaner ass
just sounds like that's not we should all strive for
to be honest. But right, but but but I mean
that on its own time and its own podcast. Although

(42:09):
with the cleaner wraths you could get a cleaner ass
is what I'm saying. Yeah, so if anyone, if we
can mark this down, is host creature, your future host
Katie Golden Uh endorsing that you put fish into your butts. Yeah. Now,
let's let the lawyers come at me. I don't care.

(42:33):
So I feel like the trust between the cleaner wraths
and the more a eel is more impressive than the
alleged relationship between birds and nile crocodiles, because al right, first,
I gotta put this in perspective, because more eels, there
are many different species and more eels, but the big

(42:53):
ones get huge. So the largest more A, the giant
more which lives in the Indo Pacific Ocean in coral reefs,
can grow to be nine ft long or three meters
and sixty six pounds or thirty whereas cleaner wrath tend
to be around four inches or ten centimeters long, so

(43:14):
teeny tiny compared to the more a and more eels.
When you're a little fish faced with this more eel,
they are have a more terrifying set of jaws than
a crocodile because they actually have two sets of jaws.
The teeth that you see as they open their mouths,
but inside their mouth, near their throat, they have a

(43:35):
second set of jaws, a smaller set of jaws called
fairyngeal jaws, which looks like the little alien that comes
out of the alien mouth and alien. Yeah, I was
just gonna say, it's like the alien mouth. It's like, yeah,
if you imagine, you think you're going to escape the
jaws of a more a eel and then it's like, oh, sorry,
there's a second mouth inside. Go freak yourself. You're still

(43:57):
getting eaten exactly if you're a little turtle to his
mind in your own business over there, Right, that's good.
It's good to like he's holding up a blue plastic turtle,
And it's always good to like incorporate prop comedy in
an audio medium. But I like to do I like
to do a lot of visual aids and right, yeah, yeah,

(44:20):
there are visual learners and they are not listening to
this podcast. But imagine if we were scuba diving, all right,
imagining it. Ah, the water is so cold burr. Yeah, right,
there we go where I hope everyone I forgot to
do the roder water we're scuba diving. I'm ignoring the

(44:46):
fact that I'm terrified because I'm basically hydrophobic. Normals water
roader water. And then we both do bain impressions to
each other the entire time. But most importantly, I point
out this horrific giant eel that I don't know about
it because and I go, oh my god, what's that?
And you go, that's a more clap clap clap clap, night,

(45:13):
good night, good night. That was a long that was
a long walk or that, and it's totally worth it.
I regret nothing. Friendships are a wonderful thing in the
animal kingdom, but sometimes there's a little stinker trying to
take advantage of mutual friendliness. Giant mores may not seem
to risk much when allowing a tiny cleaner rasp into

(45:36):
their mouths, but the cleaner rass could nip at the
morays flesh instead of at parasites. The rass knows that
these sorts of actions can get punished and typically stick
to gentle cleaning. However, there are other species of fish
that can take advantage of this trust, such as the
tiny and terrible saber tooth blinny fish. This little deviant

(45:57):
impersonates the cleaner rass and tricks the more into trusting
it long enough to get a good bite out of
the moray before quickly darting away from its shocked mark
when a saber tooth blinny hits your eye like a
big pizza pie that somewhere Anyways, when we return, we're
going to talk about some animals who share their meals,
or well what used to be their meals. I guess this.

(46:20):
You know what I mean. Ants. You may be familiar
with these resourceful little insects making a pest of themselves
at picnics, are in your own kitchen. They are often
indomitable conquerors, but sometimes they are little heroes or should
I say anti heroes. You get a randal anti anti

(46:44):
heroes because they're talking about ants anti anti heroes. Yeah,
I'm waiting for the laugh. Ye, I'm waiting for the
last year. Where is still? Is there a delay? Is
there a delay? Didn't hear me laugh? I think there's
of the lay. There must be some sort of interference.
My microphone is I'm picking up the cut off when

(47:06):
you were like busting a gut. Yeah, it clipped, it clipped.
Is too loud? The laughing was so loud it clipped
the laughter we're going to talk about meat ants. Bump
bump umb. I'd like a good threatening name for an ant,
meat ants, meat ants. I like the idea that these

(47:29):
were named meat ants because we used we farm them
for meat. Like these are some media and succulent ants. Yeah,
I know it's a weird name, and it's it's for
the worst reason. Little ants on a skewer, just like
like an ant kebob. These are the media stunts I've
ever had. No. Meat ants are relatively normal looking ants

(47:55):
found only in Australia, so you know, some weird stuff's
about to go down. So they of course, of course
they're Australian. I knew it. They're so horrific. So meat
ants do eat meat, typically from carcasses, but they do
attack and successfully defeat large prey such as the cane toad.

(48:17):
And the cane toad, as we've discussed before, is a
horrible toxic, invasive toad who is devastating the local fauna
of Australia. And meat ants are actually immune to the
cane toads toxin and they can attack the toads and
devour them. So they are little Australian heroes defeating the

(48:38):
horrible toads get at their anti heroes, so I think
there's a delay is that anti heroes get it. And
they're also helpful to farmers because they clear away animal
carcasses and they can actually skeletonize an animal carcass over
the course of a few weeks. So that's that's cool.

(48:59):
I think that's pretty cool. I like the words skeletonized.
That's like that really takes the murder out of it.
They didn't murder the animal carcass with it. Was the
animal killed or was it just skeletonized. I think in
the case of really big animals, it's that they don't

(49:20):
kill the animals. It's that the animal is dead and
the ants come in and helpfully turn it into a
skeleton and you can hang it up as Halloween decorations
instead of just having a moldering animal. Here's the thing.
I respect that you know what you're talking about, because

(49:40):
I don't. But I'm just gonna say I've seen some okay,
and I've seen I've seen an aunt killer guy. I'm
just saying, is this the same day that you got
picked up by a condor and got thrown into the ocean.
You've got a lot going on. One thing we know
about nature is that it's completely unscientific and its total

(50:02):
mystery and that anything can happen, Like I just have
to trust you when you say you saw an aunt
kill a guy. There's no way to confirm exactly. There's
no way to confirm it, no way to deny it,
and definitely can't prove a negative. No, never been done,
So it will back to science. Thanks, thank you for
your very inventive anterlode, But back to science. So the

(50:26):
ants actually dabble in farming because they form symbiotic relationships
with tree hopper nymphs, which is actually so nymphs are
like young forms of insects, so they can go through
sort of these different metamorphosis and so the nymphs stage
is a like baby stage of the metamorphosis usually after

(50:48):
like their larval form, So like these baby tree hopper
insects such as the jacid tree hopper. And that's actually
what you see in that image which also included in
the the show notes. It looks like a looks like
a wingless b that is red and black but with
no stripes, if that makes sense. But it's actually plant

(51:10):
hoppers and tree hoppers will attach themselves to a branch
or a stem and shove their proboscis inside of the
plant and suck out some of the sugary juices flowing
through the plant and get a nice meal there. But
sometimes but they suck out so much sugary juices that

(51:30):
sometimes they can't process all of it, so some of
it uh comes out of there, but as something called
honey dew, which is this sugary fluid, and so ants
love to eat this like sugar poop. So they will
protect the tree hopper nymphs by acting as shepherds, and

(51:51):
they actually do this with a number of young insects
such as caterpillars, which are the larval forms of moths
and butterflies. At a pillar can also excrete honey dew
as a byproduct of eating leaf material, and the ant
can also partake of the caterpillar. So they're basically like
shepherd's protecting the tree hoppers and caterpillars and harvesting their

(52:17):
sugary butt juice. Nothing wrong. That is a really nice
way of describing a human centipede like scenario between ants
and these things just spring sugar and the I literally
I didn't know what I was looking at at this
reference photo. I'm looking at an image of a creature

(52:38):
that looks like a rejected like concept dark from a
rejected David Cronenberg movie. And then it's it's springing something
sugary and an ant is on its but eating it
right out of it. But as they're on this branch together,
so they're they're creating this, this this chain of horrific

(53:01):
insect interaction. What sort of this is this benefit? Is
parasitic beneficial? No, no, it's not parasitic at all. Parasitic
is only when one animal is harmed and the other
gets something. So this is actually mutualistic. No, I mean,
I mean to to me. I mean to me, not

(53:23):
to the bugs, because I'm learning something. But it's parasitic,
so it's taking away from I see. Yeah, it's painful,
but it's hurting me and it's taking away from my
my soul. But but then I yeah, but then I
learned something. So in terms of evolutionary biology or feelings

(53:44):
aren't actually valid. But this is a mutualistic relationship because
both of the insects benefits. So the aunt, you know,
it gets the crappy end of the deal. But that's
what it likes the crab, and then it protects the
tree hoppers and caterpillars. So another beautiful friendship that is

(54:08):
based around food is dolphins and birds and how they
come together to screw over fish. So there is this
fascinating relationship between the Great egrets and Atlantic bottlenose dolphins
who both inhabit the tidal marshes outside of Savannah, Georgia

(54:28):
in North America. So basically what a tidle marsh is,
it's a marsh land that is connected to the sea,
and so as the tide goes out, the marshes like
get really shallow, and then the tide comes in and
the marshes get really full. Uh, And they're all these
like winding snakelike pathways that the water can take. So

(54:50):
it's it's really pretty when you look at it, but
it's all it's it's all saltwater marsh, and dolphins can
actually go up these winding paths up the marsh, and
they will do it during low tide, which seems really risky,
like why because it almost seems like when the tide
gets really low there can be only like a few

(55:10):
inches of water in certain places, So it seems like
they would be risking stranding themselves, but they actually have
this really interesting hunting tactic that they do at low tide,
where it'll be a group of like three to four
dolphins all coming together and then suddenly just all three
or four of them rush onto the shore like they're

(55:33):
just trying to like shore themselves all at once, but instead,
what they're doing is they're forcing fish up onto the
shore that they've corralled, and the fish are then stranded,
and the dolphins just lie on their sides snapping up
the fish as they fall back into the water. And
the dolphins haven't completely beached themselves so they can still

(55:54):
like get back into the water, so they're fine, but
the fish are definitely not fine. But then these great
egrets and other birds have taken notice of these dolphins
doing this hunting tactic, which this is the only in
these marshes in Georgia. These are the only place, this

(56:15):
is the only place that these dolphins have been observed
doing this hunting tactic where they force fish to like
become stranded on the shore on these mud banks. But
the birds, well classics, but these birds will watch the
dolphins and wait for them to do this, and then
they go and they start eating up the fish that

(56:36):
the dolphins can't reach that have like flipped out of
you know, just like the excess fish. So they just
kind of like some of the egrets that observe dolphins
doing this have become so dependent on the dolphin hunting habits,
they like basically stopped hunting for themselves and they just
wait for these dolphins to do this interesting hunting. Oh

(57:00):
my god. And so this I would say this is
a case of commence alism because I don't think the
dolphins are negatively impacted by the bird's presence unless the
birds are like eating fish that they would have otherwise gotten.
But I don't think so, because I think a lot
of these fish gets shoved like way up the shoreline,
so they're not going to get them anyways. And we're
sure they're not blocking the dolphins and eating them. No,

(57:23):
they're definitely no, they could be like annoying them. I guess,
like the dolphins. This is like they didn't ask the
dolphins if they could eat with them, and they're just
like bothering them, and like, you mind, if I mind
if I grabbed some salt, That's how I imagined that
conversation going between those animals. It's especially funny because they're

(57:46):
in saltwater, so you don't really need anymore. You see
the humor, it's a it's salt saltwater, marsh salt. Right.
I appreciate what you did there, that's fine. But this
is like, this is like a nation of It started
out as feeling like a World War two story where
I was just like captivated and like, oh my god,

(58:06):
I can't believe what's happened. And then and then it
turned into like when people tell they tell you not
to feed bears because you're gonna like domesticate or you're
gonna make them depend not domesticate, but you're gonna depend
make them dependent on human sandwiches and beef jerky picnic baskets,
and they want to wear a little bow ties. You know,

(58:28):
where else you get a lunchable out there, it's devastating
to the bear population. And they get picnic baskets. And
then they like start wearing bow ties and just like
they have no survival skills and they have to be
put down. They have to be put down. Like when
once they start wearing bow ties, they've actually got to
be put down, so and the hats hats and little

(58:48):
tie like they wear like actual ties and collars, but
they don't wear shirts, which doesn't make any sense, and
it's really sad, and they do have to be euthanized,
and they don't have jobs, so they're just mocking winds
and capitalism. Basically, the zoomers that are listening to this
are like, I think, really into Yogi bear content. So

(59:08):
I think this is a good move to bring in
the Yeah, it's it's very timely, So this is great,
this is this is great. I have more references from
a hundred years ago that are going to go over fantastic,
But yeah, I mean it is it isn't like that.
I think that's an actually very good point, which is
that these dolphins are because they are creating this different

(59:32):
dolphin culture where they do this specific hunting tactic. These
other animals are becoming dependent on the dolphins hunting. And
it actually happens in the ocean as well, where dolphins
will create these bubble nets where they force fish up
to the surface out in the open ocean, and these
birds will watch for that and come and descend, and

(59:53):
they get a lot of their food just from taking
advantage of dolphin ingenuity and could you who's smarter though
in this situation, the dolphins doing all this work or
the birds who work smarter not harder, And just you know,
the birds are like the c e O s in
this situation where they let the dolphins do all the work.

(01:00:14):
I was just about to say that the dolphins are
the workers. And then the Jeff Bezos of the of
the scene comes down and takes all the fish and
is like, well, maybe if you would work harder, you
would have had more fish, Jeff birds, and you're like
son of the birds. Yeah, yeah, I which there's like
a do you do sound effects on this? Could be

(01:00:35):
like a little ding or something there? What kind of
ding like like like I want want want is that
the ding that's not a ding? What I mean like
a bell? Like a like a bell sound like a
ding dong sound? I need to know what sounds just
like a dan like if you know, if you go
to a place and they're like ring the bell for service,

(01:00:57):
just like ding. You know it's like that kind of thing.
I'll put it. Hang on, you're doing this on purpose?
Go on for half an hour about bells, No that's fine.
I'm gonna put a right about now. Did you hear
it in the future because I put it in there. Wow,

(01:01:19):
that's spooky. Why is this speaking now? Well, this is
part of this is the spooky segment. We're talking about
ghost dolphins. Well, now that we've started talking about ghost dolphins,
I think that's a good time to end the podcast,

(01:01:40):
to stop recording the podcast, Like, let me go ahead
and stop you right there, let me go ahead. We've
done it. We can't do any more podcast now that
we've sort of jumped to the ghost shark here. Um no,
but yeah, thank you so much for joining me today, Randall.
It has been really fun other than the ghost part.

(01:02:05):
You know that that part is bad and I didn't
like it was too spooky. I was scared by it.
I was not a fan of what you said. Scientifically,
my feelings don't matter. But that's like, you know why,
because this episode is about friendship. Yeah, that's true. It's
friend and when your friends say they don't acknowledge your feelings,

(01:02:26):
what do you say back? That's perfectly fine. I don't
care anymore. Yeah, that's the ghosts of my feelings leaving
my body and leaving me a husk of a emotionless
friendships all about friendships, also about letting your friends plug
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I have really nuanced conversations and all that stuff. It's great.
It's great Twitter dot com at random Maynor to Twitter, Yeah, yeah,
great at random Mayer at Twitter, Twitter dot dot com.
The website, and I'll on your on your web. Yeah,

(01:04:44):
I'll post a picture of the creature feature action figure.
Unfortunately it is not available for sale anymore. It has
been recalled or isn't it is actually has been like
just spontaneously come busting. I've heard like it just like
suddenly gets like it just goes up. Well, it was

(01:05:06):
filled with real wasps, right, I hope you let them out,
which right, which was I thought a cool feature. But
parents have been complaining also the head, like the head
of the dolls like turning around three sixty degrees and
saying like like I'm your Ii'm your best friend, and
then like a laugh and and like fires, good, a

(01:05:30):
lot of fires, which was actually not a defect, like
we that was that was a feature that we'd advertised. Yeah,
and I don't understand why parents have a problem with it,
is what I'm saying. I don't know. I feel like
you did just acknowledge a supernatural though which is a
huge hurdle for the podcasts and not for it, just

(01:05:50):
for you as a person, just finally admitting that that
it's not haunting. It's not haunted. Its yeah, it's branded
by you know, yeah, Demonic Grantic, come on, get with it. Well,
you can find us on the internet at Creature Feature
Pod on Instagram, at Creature Feet Pod on Twitter. That's

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f E A T not f E T M something
very different. And you can find me on the internet
as well at Katie Golden GEO L D I N
and you could just hear my Katie thoughts. And then
also as always I am at pro Bird Rights where
kiss what birds are. Birds are just better than all
of us, is what I'm saying, because you can just

(01:06:34):
find that out right there on the bird website at
bird Rights. And thank you for listening. I appreciate it
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super appreciate that. That really helps us out with the
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(01:06:57):
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Creature Feature Pod at Gmail. That and that is Creature
feature the Gmail. So Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com.

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That's how that's how mail. Webmail works. Yeah, you just
send send a webmail over there. Can they email you
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