Hobbees

While us humans are all trying to figure out our favorite hobbies to occupy our time, animals are already running, crocheting, and baking circles around us! We’re talking bee bakers, web-spinners, carpenters, fake astronomers, and dolphin shenanigans with our guest, Teresa Lee!

Footnotes: 

1. Bee bread! 
2. Bee sorbet! 
3. Webspinner! 
4. Carpenter ants handiwork!
5. Honeypot ants! 
6. Carnivorous stars! 
7. Dolphin vape tricks!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Creature Future production of I Heart Radio. I'm
your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology
and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, we're talking
about animal hobbies. While us humans are all trying to
figure out our favorite hobbies to occupy our time, animals
are already running crocheting and baking circles around us. We're

(00:29):
talking be Baker's web spinners, carpenters, fake astronomers, and dolphin Shenanigans.
Discovered this more as we answered the angel question do
you really want to know what a bee mom's secret
ingredient is? Joining me today is stand up comedian host
of the podcast You Can Tell Me Anything, and my

(00:51):
friend Theresa Lee. Thanks for having me, Katie, of course
it's good to see you. So today we're talking about
hobby ease and what we've been doing to kind of
like stay you know, relatively emotionally stable at this time
um and how animals, how animals do like their hobbies

(01:12):
and how they stay alive much like we're trying to
do now. So what are some of the hobbies that
you've picked up to kind of cope with the new
the new lifestyle. First, I have to say, this is
a marker of how long we've been at Quarantine is
I've been able to do your podcast twice during that's right,

(01:35):
your second this is our second Quarantine episode. That's my
how I mark time now is how many times I've
done this. I don't even remember the more four times,
to be honest, Like when I think back to actually
recording in a studio, I was like, oh, yeah, it
used to be in a studio, not just I do.
I do prefer the for me just because I was
doing all the like, I was very like bootstrapping my podcast.

(01:57):
So it has been easier to get people to do
it over zoom than when I had to make them
drive to me. Yeah. But as but as the editor
of this podcast, I have to say, I'm starting to
dislike the sounds of cars and the sounds of planes.
It makes me viscerally angry when I hear a plane
fly over. Now. But yeah, so how have you like

(02:18):
picked up any hobbies Like I've been crocheting a lot. Um,
I learned how to crochet. Yeah, I do have some
quarantine hobbies. I Um, I'm learning to code and that's
a bit. It's very real I think like that feels
like a step up from a hobby, that feels like

(02:39):
a life skill. I don't know when it's me. It's
definitely because I years ago. I mean, I've always been
interested in robots and the Singularity, but I was researching
AI more for like a pilotis writing. And then now
I just actually want to have app ideas I want
to make. And I think it's because I don't have
stand up so I've been actively putting together stupid ideas.

(03:01):
That's one I also got into, like I wish I
actually had like a house I could work on, but
the very little I can do in my apartment, I
realize I really like power tools, so I bow my
I brought my boyfriend's drill and put up like a
wall of mirrors to make a little dance studio. And yeah,
it's been really fun slash probably unhealthy because I'm obsesssaying

(03:24):
over things I shouldn't be doing. I also have like
I have renovation envy. I live in a very small apartment.
I don't think our lease would allow me to break
down a wall or anything. Also, my neighbors probably wouldn't
like that me bursting into their living room. But so
we are talking about the things that animals do. Like

(03:46):
now we think it's like really trendy to do all
of these hobbies like crocheting and breadmaking, but these are
things that animals have been doing for millennia. And first
I want to talk about bees and how they are
a little pastry chefs. They're incredible. We don't think about
animals doing baking, right because like that's like, oh, you know,

(04:07):
you need to be a human with thumbs and like
a chef's hat to be able to like do baking.
But bees are incredible when it comes to food preparation.
And I want to talk about something literally called bee
bread because bees don't just make honey, they also make bread.
What exactly I was, It's like one of those things

(04:28):
where you learn about this and it just seems so whimsical,
like like you imagine a bunch of fairies at a
tea party with some bees and they're sharing bee bread
and the bees are like, yeah, I regurgitated it myself.
But it's it is pretty incredible actually, this whole process.
So honey is great for bees and that it contains
a lot of sugar which helps give them nutrition and

(04:50):
helps them give nutrients to their growing larva, but it
doesn't have that much protein, and so that's where bee
bread comes in, and that's where they get a lot
of their proteins. So be bread or ambrosia is a
bit of bee confection that they create by collecting pollen.

(05:11):
So when bees go from flower to flower, they collect
pollen all over their bodies. And that's not just sort
of a byproduct of them collecting nectar. Obviously it helps
the flowers because that's how flowers are pollinated. A bee
gets in there, gets all in the flower sex organs,
rummages around, goes to another flower, and then uh pollinates that.

(05:33):
It's all very very kinky stuff. But um, they also
intentionally collect the pollen so their bodies are covered in hair.
That's why they're so adorable. And yeah, now, I mean like, look,
what what's the point of shaving these days? We need
we need it to collect the pollen. Is how else

(05:56):
are we going to make this bee bread? So they
will clean their faces off. Their fore legs have little
built in combs that they can comb the pollen off
of their little faces. That's like when they do the
cute little I love that you're doing. People can't hear
this on the pod, but Katie is doing a little
b impression and a toute. I've got to I've got

(06:17):
to embody the bee with a little dealers going all
over my face. I have to become the bee. Become
the bee. So then they pass all of the pollen
they've collected off of their faces to their metal set
of legs, so they have three pairs of legs and
they move the pollen like a conveyor belt down to
the back pair of legs, their hind legs that actually

(06:39):
have a built in basket for pollen called corbricula. So
the curricula is a cavity in the hind legs surrounded
by hair um so that when they like pack in
the pollen, it just sticks in there. It's literally a
little basket in their legs. Wow. I mean, I wonder
what which came first, the kangaroo or beat that is.

(07:02):
I think it was bees. Actually, yeah, I'm gonna say bees.
I'm gonna I think it's that makes sense because they're
a little more like bugs and Jurassic Park or whatever.
I feel like, Yeah, I think there weren't kangaroos and
Jurassic Park skeletally yea similar, very similar, very similar. You know,

(07:23):
marsupials are a bit of a strange kind of evolutionary detour.
I do think that if you like, I don't know,
like a velociraptor versus a kangaroo. I feel like people
in Australia, what do you think kangaroos are pretty ornery.
I'd give them a run for their their money. The
hop thank you, I'm sorry. I apologize for missing that one. Everyone.

(07:47):
So they basically pack in this pollen ball, using collected
nectar and saliva to turn it into this tidy little lump,
and then they can so much that it's like a
third of their weight. So they're caring just these It's
actually kind of funny to see them because they just

(08:07):
have these big, old like um balls connected to their
legs that they're flying around on. And then they returned
to the hive and they have that beautiful hive structure
where you have these honeycomb all the little cells, and
they shove the water of pollen into an empty cell
um and then put a bit of nectar on top

(08:30):
to seal it in and then just let it marinate
in the juices of like saliva nectar and then all
of this pollen and then it turns into be bread
which that they can um either the adults can eat
later they can also like collect it and then use
it to feed their young and um people sometimes eat it,

(08:53):
although I'm not sure, Like there's often these claims about
health benefits of eating beeB it, and I'm not sure
that there's anything that's really um backed up by research.
Unit is feeling better than the person you're talking to, exactly.
The benefit is feeling like a fairy queen who reigns

(09:15):
over the realm of bees, and like have your tiny
tea set with your little bee bread. Does the bread
like actually baked like by the sun or why do
they call it? It's just it's sort of an oven
less bread. I think they call that's a good question.
Why they call it bread. I guess it's just they
look a little bit like buns. I don't know if
that's the reason why. That's how that's how it forms

(09:37):
in my mind, but yeah, I think it's just because
they store it in a pantry and it's a solid,
you know, it's more of a solid than like honey.
Is so kind of seems bread like, and you know,
as humans we can technically eat it because it's pollen
and stuff, but I think there's like some complications with it,
like it can actually trigger allergies and some people I

(10:00):
can also, I think have like um, which does as
well a lot of you know, celia. That's true, that's true.
I wonder if like if like if you have like
could you although I thought there's like some crossover if
you have a gluten intolerance and like potential other allergies.
But yeah, so it's not um. It's not necessarily always

(10:24):
good to just eat. But you know, it's like, I
think it's kind of funny whenever it's like whenever there's
something that an animal makes, humans are just like, oh
if I eat that, maybe I'll like gain the powers
of a bee. That's funny. Yeah, I wonder It's almost
like I feel like we would learn more by trying

(10:44):
to do what they are their version of what they're doing,
instead of just taking it from the Like what would
are I mean, I don't know, it sounds gross, but
like could are are we not using our saliva in
the right way, like human saliva and crumbs? Maybe if
we collected by ch of pollen and pack it just
like lick it into a ball. You know. You know

(11:06):
what freaks me out about saliva is when you chew
on gum or like suck on a hard candy, you're
just like eating your flavored saliva because the candy goes
down so parts of it. It's a but you're digesting
it and you're you're like melting it in your mouth

(11:27):
with your saliva, so you are sucking down like flavored
sugary saliva. I suppose I guess that doesn't bother me
that much. I'm trying to think of what. I don't
know why it doesn't bother because I'm think it was
the opposite. It's spitting out the saliva, which that feels
grosser than just swallowing, right, that's true. I feel like
saliva when it's still in your mouth is fair game.

(11:49):
Once the saliva leaves your mouth, then you know, you
swallow your own saliva all the time. But if someone
was like, okay, spitting this cup, and I do it
because I like to blindly follow instruction, and then they're like,
now drink this saliva, I'd be horrified and wouldn't want
to do it, even though that i'd like happily slip
down my own saliva, like when it's still in my mouth, right, true. Yeah,

(12:12):
I've never understood when couples shar toothbrushes. That's always gross.
But then it's like, technically the saliva, it's not what
bothers me. But I think it's this idea that it's
a cleaning device. And I'm like, I don't know, I'll like,
you know, kiss my significant other, but sharing a spoon
is it's fine, I'll do it, but it's still there's

(12:34):
a slight thing of like I don't know though. Yeah,
I'll like lick the inside of your mouth, and I'll
lick your teeth, but I will not use the same spoon. Right,
I'll use my tongue to floss your teeth. But sharing
a spoon, licking the same ice cream, I don't know.
I don't know. So another be that does some confection

(12:59):
that looks delicious. I don't know if it would actually
taste good, but I do want to eat it. It
is the blue orchard mason bees. Now, these are gorgeous
little bees. They are different from honey bees in that
they are their wild bees and they do not live
in hives. Honey bees are considered somewhat domesticated because they

(13:20):
are not from North America. They're not indigenous to North America.
We introduce them to help us pollinate in agriculture and
obviously for their honey because it's delicious. But blue orchard
mason bees, as well as other types of wild bees,
they are native to North America. They are solitary bees,

(13:41):
so every female bees will have her own babies, and
they do not live in hives. They're uh, they're not
intolerant of each other, though they sometimes live in like
apartment complexes where it's like they all make their burrows
in the same area. In fact, like farmers will often
create artific a shell apartment complexes for the bees because

(14:02):
they love them. They use them for pollinating their crops.
Wait are there, so there's no queen bee because they
all have their own Are their kings are there? Like? Okay,
now it's still a society. It's just a free for all.
And they're these big competitions for males to try to
mate with females, and every female will have her own offspring,

(14:24):
and they like to live in hollowed out branches. So
just basically a little hole that they can just fit into,
and they will make their own nest by going out
and collecting clay, picking it up with their mandibles, flying
it back to that hollow twig, and then lining the
inside so they might make this nice clay lined den,

(14:47):
and then they go about creating. They look like they're
scoops of sorebet um for their offspring. That is a
mixture of pollen and nectar and probablybly a lot of
their saliva. Saliva gets everywhere in nature. I hate to
say it, um, you're probably eating a lot of bee
saliva with with the honey, which shouldn't be a problem.

(15:10):
It's great, but so like I said, they're excellent pollinators.
They even though they are their populations are much smaller
than honey bees. Hive structures are great for creating huge
populations because the queen bee is so well cared for
that she pumps out enormous numbers of offspring every day

(15:33):
and everyone in the hive is just ensuring the success
of these offspring. So it's it's they are able to
maintain a huge population, whereas solitary bees since every um,
basically every mother is only producing a few offspring. Uh,
they just aren't as populous as the other as the
hive introduced species of bees. But each individual bee is

(15:56):
a much better pollinator than each individual need be. They
really are very busy and they get They just traveled
to so many different flowers. They're excellent pollinators, great for agriculture.
It's like a smaller classroom versus a bigger classroom. Yeah,
one queen overseas the whole hive versus exactly it's accepted.

(16:18):
I don't know that better works. I was trying to
think of a metaphor it, but then I'm like, that
feels too political. Was to try to be political? Well,
what Teresa is trying to say is that we should
use bees to teach our children. And I do like
this bold new direction for American for educational system. You know,
where's the Yeah, maybe those bee mothers could take on
a few human children, right, feed them just like shove

(16:42):
pollen and spit and our kids mouths, and nourish them.
I would have to be watched, my kid, I would live,
I too would littally watch. There's no bees in federal
prison right now? Oh? Did I mention that blue orchard
mason bees are blue? They're very they're very cute. I
love bees. They have sort of a shiny they're very fuzzy,

(17:02):
but then like they're under that, their exoskeleton has this
kind of like shiny iridescent blue color that's very pretty.
They are so cute. So they're almost like flies, but
like cute. Yeah, because they don't have like the striped
they don't have the striped pattern that honey bees have.
So you look at when you may not recognize it
as a B, it is a B. And like I
was saying, so they create basically this long tube that

(17:25):
is their din made out of clay inside a hollow twig,
and then they start collecting pollen and nectar and creating
little balls of It's basically a confectionery treat for their offspring,
and that they will put into the tube. And they
will lay a single egg on each of these balls
of pollen and nectar that they've collected and then seal

(17:49):
that in with a little bit more clay. Then move
on to this next compartment in the tube, lay another
egg on top of like a ball of this confection
this nectar all in mix, and then seal that in.
So they create like basically it's food and then egg
on top of the food wall, food egg wall, food
egg wall until they run out of space essentially, and

(18:13):
the food is It looks beautiful, especially when these bees
are using pollen from plants that have colorful pollens. So
there's flowers that have purple pollen. So when they use
purple pollen, they make purple balls of food and it
looks gorgeous. It looks delicious. It actually looks a lot

(18:34):
like like ube ice cream or sorbet. It's I want
to eat it, but it's not like when you go
to those fancy ice like salt and straw and like lavender,
and yes, exactly I love salt and straw. But yeah,
it does look like a lavender sorbet, but the larvae
on it doesn't look that up to kind of take

(18:58):
the baby bee. It looks like a little jelly. But
if it's about too wormy looking for my taste, Yeah, no,
I don't want to eat. I don't want to eat
baby bees. But it is very It is cute somehow,
there's just something so charming about that, Like Mommy made
you a ball of like nectar and pollen sorbet, and

(19:20):
then you grow up eating it and then they weave
themselves a little cocoon and they come out next season
as adult bees and then they burst through the clay walls. Wow,
so they don't even go check on them. So that
the whole thing is I feel like, you know what
that I would wouldn't mind being a part if that's
if I could just um save up a ton of

(19:42):
like Kraft mac and cheese and then ballow it up
and like lay my egg in a ball and just
be like I'm gonna go summer and France, and I'll
when I come back, you're going to be a teenager
and I'll say hi to you. Then that like just
let them eat their way through their teens. Yeah, giant
ball of here's like a giant dag would esk sandwich

(20:04):
for you that will last your entire childhood, Eat up,
see you by good luck hat like with a like
a little like here's your lunch from mom, and it'll
last you for your entire entire larval state. Yeah, that's
my type of parenting. Yeah I could sometimes. Meal prep

(20:28):
is the difference between a tasty dinner and a toxic one.
Loggerhead strikes a small, unassuming bird who likes to impale
its prey on thorns are able to snack on toxic
prey items by impaling them and leaving them out on
the spit for a few days for their toxins to degrade.
They'll impale toxic monarch, butterflies, lubber, grasshoppers, and toads and

(20:52):
wait until these ghoulish kebabs are ready to eat. When
we return, we're going to talk about more animal hobbies,
and my fellow knitters and crow shares out there are
gonna want to stay tuned for this. Spiders are the

(21:13):
most famous silk spinners in the animal kingdom, from Charlotte's
Web to the Greek myth of Arachne, who foolishly challenged
a goddess to a weaving contest and was transformed into
a spider for her troubles. In fact, that's where the
term Arachney for spider comes from. But spiders are the

(21:33):
only master spinners in the arthropod world. Oh, there's a
there is a um house centipede in my bathtub, right? No? I,
Actually there's very few insects that really bother me, But
of them are silver fish, which don't scare me, but

(21:53):
they like gross me out. I don't like them. Cockroaches again,
they don't really scare me, but they gross me out
because they're just like so like oily and nasty. And
then the third one is how centipedes because they have
too many legs. In my opinion, I don't like it.
I don't care for it. I don't get scared of spiders,
but how cinimpedes, it's just it's too much. It's like

(22:14):
you've got too many segments, you've got too many legs.
So I got a plastic cup and I put it
over the house cinipede in the bathtub, and I think
I've solved it. I think I've solved the problem. We'll
just have a plastic cup in the bathtub decoration. Yeah,
I mean it's there. I'll like glue it down and

(22:36):
with like seal it off and it's just like, hey,
look it's you know, that's the classic cup in the
shower kind of one thing. I feel like I took that.
Being home literally all day working is like if I
see a bug at work, like I might not like it,
but it doesn't feel like it's my bug. When I
see a bug in my home, I'm like, it's it's

(22:59):
like another else to feed, Like if you don't, I
gotta move this bug outside, or if I don't move it,
then later I'm gonna wake up in the middle then
and be like did this bug is it still? Yeah,
it's to like go like crawl into my eyesocket and
live in the space. Spiders don't do that. Bugs generally

(23:19):
don't do that. I I actually don't. There are a
lot of bugs that I'm very tolerant of. Most bugs,
like I said, like even spiders. Sometimes I'll move them
outside just because if it's like big enough, I don't
want to like get startled and smoosh it. If it's
small enough, like I will just let it chill out

(23:40):
because it's probably eating insects for me and I enjoy that.
But you know, and then like you know, beatles, like
when they get in, like I send them outside because
like what are they going to do in here? There's nothing,
there's nothing for them here. But yeah, so I'm like, hey,
thanks for the application. It's not gonna work out. I
just don't think there's anything for you to do, Beetle, Like, right,

(24:03):
you're a June beetle. I don't think there's room for you.
My apartment is like two hundred square feet. I might
be down for a spider if if I could communicate,
because they do start on me. But you're right, they
are they're helping me eat insects. But I think if
I could be like spider, like how you said sorry,
you said like helping me eat insects like you you

(24:25):
both are like I have to do my working on
a big bulb insects. You like, I don't think I
can finish this. I would say, oh, hey, would you
like do you want to finish this? I'm done? Wait, Katie,
you don't eat your insects when there's no spiders. Somebody
just kidding. I just don't have a problem finishing all
my insects. True, true, Yeah, that's right. Waste not um.
If I could be like, hey, spider, I've cleared at

(24:47):
this quarter for you, and like every once in a
while check on you it, that's where you could be.
Please don't come out when I'm eating. You'll startle me.
Like we could make it work, but honestly, I've yet
to find a spider that's going to follow my rules.
So I do feel like maybe if you if you
set up like a little home for it, maybe then
I'd get a hint, like a tiny welcome matt, and

(25:10):
it would have to have eight welcome mats, because yeah,
eight welcome mats, like eight pairs of little fuzzy bunny
slippers and like like an easy chair and like a
copy of Arachnids Monthly um with that you know, centerfold
of Like, you know, that's very adorable and might actually
make be less afraid of spiders. Yeah. I think if

(25:33):
you're afraid of spiders and you make your spot your
house spiders like a little spider house, that will It's
just like it changes the game, you know. It's like
now they're now they're a renter. So there you go. Yeah, So,
speaking of spiders, one thing that sometimes bothers me about
Spider Man, amongst many other problems with the comic book universe,

(25:57):
is the fact he shoots webs out of his hands.
Now I understand there's like different versions of Spider Man.
There's like the version where it's like he like makes
his web spinners out of technology, which always kind of
bothered me because it's like he was bitten by a
radioactive spider and then he creates webs in a lab
and puts them in cannuses on his wrists. It's like,

(26:20):
but true, you know, it was just a suggestion. It
was like I like that idea of I like where
you're going with that. Now I will just do most
of the other work, right, Like, so you're only spider
powers are climbing up walls and having good punches, Like
that's boring. And then there's like the movie version with
Toby McGuire where he like shoots it out of his

(26:41):
wrists for some reason and he's like, oh, how does
this work? And then he squeezes his hands and it
comes out, which is equally baffling because really with spiders,
it comes out of the sort of rear end of
their abdomens. And so that's that's how. So really Peter
Parker should be kind of spewing it sort of near

(27:01):
his tailbone, kind of not not out the butt, not
like out of the venus, but near the butt, you
know what I mean, maybe with a fun like sound
as he goes. But so, if you really want Peter
Parker to sling webs out of his hands, he shouldn't
have been bitten by a radioactive spider. It should have
been a radioactive web spinner web spinners are an insect

(27:26):
that live all over the world in tropical and subtropical regions.
And the males kind of are unassuming looking. They look
like long winged ants. They just kind of don't you know,
you would see when and not really think of anything.
Females are actually the ones that do not have wings,

(27:46):
and they have these like big doofy looking front legs
that look like little paddles. And this is where they
have the spider man powers because out of their front
feet they spew stick the strands of very fine silk.
So um. Females uh look a little they kind of

(28:09):
look like long termites, you know, like a termite, but
just sort of stretched out with those like weird little
paddle feet. And they live like to live like in
the king wood, like under a log or something, and
they will create these intricate silken tunnels out of these
threads from their front feet, and the tunnels, which are

(28:33):
called galleries, helped protect the web spinners from the elements
and from predators and from getting rained on. So they
will literally take their little feet where they have the
a bunch of little hair like protrusions that come out
of their feet that um actually each of those hair
like protrusion spits out a strand of very very thin

(28:55):
thread and it's actually the I think it's like the
thinnest silk strands in nature created by an insect. And
then so like it it's a bunch of strands at once.
And then they just move their little feet back and
forth like they're at a loom, you know, like the
the shuttle in a loom where you pass that back

(29:15):
and forth. They're just doing that with their feet, like
back and forth and back and forth. It's so fine.
It looks like, yeah, it almost looks like it's just
like a piece of fabric. Yeah, yeah, it looks it
looks like um, I mean, it looks a little bit
like cobwebs or or like a silk or something. It's
it's actually it's very pretty to me. It uh in
sort of like a Gothic like you know, haunted, you

(29:38):
know what I mean, like Victorian haunted cheek. So basically,
these web spinners make all these little tunnels out of
silk and they can live comfortably inside because they like
to feed on lichen and moss, which is plentiful in
the rotting wood that they are building this and the
silk canopies are so well made it'll catch the rain

(30:00):
as it falls down, and in fact, when water falls
on it, it like gets absorbed by the webbing and
it actually changes the structure of the webbing so it
becomes even more water resistance. So it's amazing in terms
of how it is so weather proof, and so they
can live there there, their offspring can live comfortably in there,

(30:22):
and they can actually be really social. So a bunch
of web spinners can work together to create a bunch
of like uh galleries and like webbing together. And even
though they don't necessarily live in colonies, um exactly, it's
still like their neighbors, and they're they're not too fussed
about sharing their their handiwork because it benefits all of

(30:46):
them to basically, once you've got a web spin or
making these things, and then more web spinners come in
the mix, you start to get these very elaborate structures
of canopies and it helps all of them. One thing
that's kind of funny is they can don't really turn
off their web spinning feet on que like it's sort

(31:07):
of the pressure that makes those silk injectors work. So
if they walk on their feet, just like normally it
will leave behind a trail of sticky thread that they
can get tangled in. So if they want to walk forwards,
they actually have to walk on their tippy toes like
a little ballerina so that they don't trigger the web spinners.
And so if they're trying to evade a predator and

(31:28):
they're like walking on their tippy toes away, it's really
kind of cute and pathetic. But normally to evade a predator,
because they can't move very fast on their tippy toes,
they will shimmy backwards and back away from the predator
because that way they can still like walk on the
flats of their feet. And even though it leaves behind
strands of webbing, like, they won't get tangled in it

(31:48):
because they're moving backwards. So either way, like looking at
them trying to evade predators is really cute and sad.
Just leave them alone. All they want to do is
crochet and stay inside, just like me. It's cute that
I like the idea that to build like a town,
everyone has to build it. Like imagine if everyone in

(32:09):
l A in order to use the highways, you had
to like help build it, like traffic. It would help
traffic so much if like, you have to help build
the road that you want to drive on, and you
would treat it better, and you would drive safer, and
you would just be nicer to the people on the
road because you all built it together. So wait, if
we all build things together and work together, you mean

(32:31):
it might improve our quality of life? That sounds like socialism.
You're right, it was stupid. Why did I even say
you're right? Dumb dumb dum. Reviewer from like weed Goku
sixty nine says, like Teresa Len not only introduced politics
by saying our children should be educated by bees, but
started talking about be socialism propaganda another crafty insect. I'd

(33:00):
like to talk about our carpenter ants. Now, if you
live in an area that carpenter ants uh frequent, you
may already be familiar with these and perhaps have a
rather antagonistic relationship with them, because they are similar to
termites and that they carve out. Would unlike termites, they
don't actually ever consume. Would they just rip it out

(33:22):
with their mandibles to construct themselves a colony. So sometimes
when you think you may have termites, but you see
these big piles of like sawdust that is actually carpenter
ants because they leave behind these big piles of sawdust
that they are not eating. So carpenter ants are ants
who carve out these extensive structures. Usually they prefer rotting wood, um,

(33:47):
but sometimes they will attack like human structures that is
made out of lumber if it's soft enough, and they
will basically like dig out all of the wood between you.
How like trees have rings, and then like in between
each ring, you have like this new growth and like
this like kind of old growth and the new growth
blah blah blah, so on and so forth, and then

(34:09):
you have um the tree rings and that's used to
sort of like date it. Well, the ants will like
carve out between the rings, and then what that does
is it gives them all of these little like concentric
walkways that they can use, uh and travel throughout the colony.
And then they create sort of a nursery area and

(34:30):
then all of these like satellite colonies. So they're basically
creating like a wooden city. It's really incredible and um
for in terms of like in forests, this is actually
great because again they like decaying trees and they do
a really wonderful job of clearing out like decaying trees
and helping with the decomposition process. You know, when you

(34:53):
have like a big tree that falls down in a forest,
as you start to break that tree up into its
comp posit parts and using them and then feeding on them,
you actually you know that that's a good process of
decay that helps the forest kind of regrow and have
like you you have this microbiome of these organisms that
flourish and uh, then you can have new plants that

(35:14):
that take its place, and like you know, you have
soil that can become more fertile and it's so it's
very useful. Um. And that's interesting this idea of like
going after rotting or decaying because normally to the human eye,
we think like, oh, that's like you see something dead
and you feel like it's death, but actually or you
see bugs and you think death, but the reality is

(35:35):
full of life. So that's exactly interesting way to think
about it. Yeah. I remember when I was in sixth
grade camp we had um we would go on these
hikes and we each had our own like hike tour
guide and ours was obsessed with talking about decay, like
the decaying cycle. And at the time, like I was
a very scared little sixth grader. I was terrified of

(35:58):
being away from home. Um, and like I was just
like living in in fear, like in this camp and
like there are bats everywhere. I was like, everyone's gonna
get rabies, We're gonna get killed by a serial killer.
Now I'm on this hike with like this crazy lady
who's like talking about decomposition, and she's like, do you
kids want to see a dead horse? And everyone's like hey,
And so she takes us to this pile of hair

(36:21):
and teeth that was like a dead horse. She's like,
I know this may seem gross to you, but this
is actually a beautiful part of life. It is decay
is just as much of a part of life as
life is. And at the time, it's like, are you crazy?
You showed us a dead pony, like Twilight Sparkle is
dead and you're just showing it to us. No. I

(36:43):
understand where she's coming from, because when you have decay
in a forest, that means huge amounts of life that
springs from the decaying, whether it's a horse carcass or
a tree carcass. I feel like there's like an age appropriate,
like you've got to be a full adult and you've
under stood life before you see that, because I could
really fuck you up. Yeah, see that too young. I

(37:06):
turned out fine. I'm fine, don't worry. I turned out fine.
Now you can totally tell by how much I talk
about parasites and like dead things and grows stuff on
this show that that it was actually perfect that I
learned by seeing a dead horse in sixth grade, and
it was a good growing experience. I think you need

(37:27):
to build a welcome map for dead horses in your house.
That's true that I think that would heal me, Like
next to my eight welcome maps for the spider, just
have like one one welcome map for like welcome dead horses.
I'm like a horse girl, but for dead and decayed horses.

(37:49):
So another interesting thing about carpenter ants is that, um
they have different jobs. So like in an ant colony
of like different jobs, you have the mean ant, you
have the worker ants. You sometimes in some ant colonies
you'll have like soldier ants that are like bigger and bulkier. UM.
With carpenter ants, they have worker ants, and they also

(38:10):
have what are called honey pot ants UM, which also
occur in other species of ants as well, but honey
pot ants are a type of worker ant whose job
is to become a living pantry for other ants by
eating so much that they basically turn into food balloons.
So they consume huge amounts of food and it turns

(38:33):
into this like sweet sugary liquid in their abdomens. And
but it's so much of it. I mean, well, I
know you said abdomen, but this photo, it just looks
like it's got a juicy booty. Yeah, this might be
my vibe. I feel like this ant. You're vibing with
this ant. Yeah, this is who I am. Yeah, I

(38:55):
mean it. It basically turns itself into a water balloon
of food, like you get it. It is. It's actually
kind of pretty. So like you see it, it's like
it looks like it's but um, it's just filled with
it's just this like amber orb of it's a juicy

(39:16):
Okay you missed. You miss those shorts that say juicy
on the back. Yes, I never got to have one
because they were the actual ones were expensive. Yeah, I
never got I never got those as a kid. I
was a very like straight lace little kid. I would
never get like a thing that's a juicy on my butt.
Now I'm thinking of like just crocheting my own juicy

(39:37):
just shorts. I took wood wood shop in middle school.
I was like one of two girls in the class.
And for our final project, which was freestyle like do
whatever you want, I made a plaque that said naughty
or Nice And it was a picture of an angel
in the devil with the words naughty or nice, and
I just painted flames on the naughty nice angel wings
on the nice. Literally, everybody's like, why are you in

(39:58):
this class? Like working, but you're kidding, that's amazing. What
do you mean? Why are you in this class? Were
like boys, They weren't man called the real man would
congratulate you on your artistry. Were like trying to do.
They were like, I want to make use power tolls.
I was like, well, guess what those power tolls you
thought were so cool? I use them? And I made

(40:19):
it's a cute little not your nice plaque. That's amazing,
that's amazing. That's what I instead of like a live
laugh love plaque, I want like naughty or nice or
like hail Satan with these honey pot ants. Actually, sometimes
people will eat them because basically they're like little little

(40:43):
uh what's it called, not juicy fruit water gushers. Gushers,
they're like little living gushers because they are full of
sugary goo and they are apparently very delicious. If you
can get past the fact that your gushers, it might
be better for you than gushers. Gushers are just chemicals,

(41:03):
that's true. I'm actually grossed out by gush ers. Something
about it, Like you're like chewing on this thing and
it pops in your mouth. It's very like pustular that
I don't like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I
feel like these Yeah they should make if they marketed
these ants and just be like, do you like your
gushers with the head and legs on them? That's a

(41:26):
good marketing technique, Like would you like a gusher but
it's alive and it's got a head and legs. They
do that already in marketing of candy, Like, Hi, kids,
I'm living candy, murder me I want to be eaten? Yeah,
what's up with that? I wonder if there's like an
innate hunter gather vibe that we have, Like why do
we of all the mascots for eminem's why did we

(41:48):
just make them alive? We crave murder. It's because we
feel like hunting for we Yeah, we want to feel
like when we like chase down nerds, they're cute little
things that like are literally running away from us and
that we eat, and you know, I mean that's wild.

(42:10):
Maybe your quarantine hobby could be starting a gustatory adventure
when it comes to eating insects. While I don't suggest
picking up random bugs and putting them in your mouth,
insects and other arthropods our beloved food all over the world,
our culture is just biased against them. Cooked scorpions, sand
stinger apparently tastes like soft shell crab. Roasted grubs reportedly

(42:35):
tastes like bacon meal. Worms have a slightly crunchy, nutty flavor.
Crickets are apparently like a combination of popcorn and almonds
with a few more legs. Sounds good. No, Well, personally,
I haven't quite gotten over my cultural hang ups about bugs,
But maybe one of these days I'll enjoy some nice
fried grubs cricket flour pancakes with a dash of honey

(42:58):
pot and syrup. When we return, we're going to talk
about some star gazing with an alien danger. Imagine you're
enjoying a starry sky. Wouldn't it be nice to grow
wings and fly up into the stars, bathed in the

(43:20):
glowing light of a billion distant suns. You see O
Ryan and the Little Dipper, and well, actually you don't
really recognize these constellations. That's strange. What's going on? Why
are you suddenly stuck as if you've hit a ceiling?
And what's that thing crawling towards you? Well you'll find

(43:42):
out soon enough. Section I've just called vibing because I
feel like one of the hobbies of the Quarantine twenty
twenty times to try to stay I don't know, just
like stick keep your spear it's up. Is just finding
out ways to vibe that, you know what I mean.

(44:05):
It's like almost like you know, like your brain can
provide like serotonin and whatever, you know, the mood enhancers.
But I feel like a lot of cultures have like
festival of lights in the times um, like during the
you know, winter, and this photo of these lights, it's
kind of like an external way to add um. You

(44:25):
might think it's frivolous like decoration, but it's not. It's
actually to produce those like happy happy hormones. Yeah, something nice. Yeah,
I feel like like we have to kind of think
of ways, like because all of those things like festivals
and rituals and gatherings, like I think it serves an
extremely important purpose for human psychology and like the gathering

(44:50):
of the Juggalos exactly, like it's a it's a yearly migration,
one of the largest migrations in the natural world, that
of the Juggalos. Um. But yeah, I mean it is
really important obviously, like our health and not dying or
killing people with COVID is more important at this time,

(45:13):
Like that takes priority keeping people safe from a deadly disease. However,
I think if we can figure out ways to like
just kind of enjoy ourselves and get that like and
I'm like very agnostic, but I think there's a lot
to be said about like rituals and festivals in terms
of that like kind of inner fulfillment there. It's there's
something really like I don't know, like if you if

(45:36):
you want to put up like like string lights or
festival lights or like continue with sort of um, I
guess just like do fun things like to keep you
you said, lights and I did buy led lights to
put up, and I just realized I put up. I
bought some like space prints, like because like NASA's photographs
are in the public and sometimes people print posters. I

(45:57):
bought a bunch of Galaxy photographs and put them up.
And I think, probably innately, I'm missing, yes, like my
connection to nature and the sky, even though I've only
lived in big cities where I really star gaze. I
just maybe subconsciousness at the very least I get a
little bit of it. When I'm out, I don't have
it at all. I mean, like the lights of the
city maybe take the place of the lights of the

(46:18):
stars in our brains. And if we're not going out
in the city at night and getting the lights and
like you know, going to movies where we're getting all
this light and stuff, like, maybe that part of us.
It's like I like, because I share that exact thing,
Like I want to just look at a night sky
and look at the stars. I can't because we're in
l A and um yeah, and I've been waking up

(46:40):
with the sun not with no alarm, and it at
first alarmed me, but I think it is my body
being like you're at Hunter gather mode. Now you need
to follow the diurnal rhythm of the sun. You just
started and it's been doing that for weeks. I just
I was wide open as the sun's coming up, and
I'm like, I guess we're awake now. Yeah, because we're

(47:00):
talking about like lights and I love that, Like you're
thinking about star gazing and stuff. I think there's something
that is so aspirational about that, like when we're kind
of stuck in this like survival mode and um. There
is an insect that also likes to create an artificial
environment of stars, and this is known as Arachno Kampa luminosa,

(47:25):
which is also known as the glow worm. The New
Zealand glow worm is that artificial environment of stars. Like
what what? What are we in l a or something? Egg? Yeah,
nice got him roasted, Hollywood destroyed. So these glow worms

(47:49):
are actually the larva of a fungus gnat, so fungus net.
It's sort of like a It looks a bit like
a mosquito, but it does not feed on human blood.
It feeds on fungus and seedlings. But their larva are
glow worms and they are so creepy and beautiful. They

(48:09):
are these transparent, long like wormy maggots, and they but
they have bioluminescent butts like they're sort of caboose area.
It glows blue. And they live on the ceilings of caves,
so they weave silk and hammocks all along the ceiling

(48:33):
and they actually travel through these silken hammocks um like
they're on a monorail essentially, like all these like sort
of mono rail uh worms going around with their glowing cabooses.
But they live in these big groups and when they're
all clustered together like that, they actually look a lot

(48:54):
like us beautiful starry sky, like you're looking at an
image of them, and they actually flicker as well, if
you wanted to look at the video you cook, they
kind of glow and flicker. So the video. Okay, so
I see the string, So is that all one worm?
That's a long string? There's um no that I feel

(49:15):
like jellyfish almost where they're like yeah no, so this
the worm. Those like dangling tentacle like things are actually
strands of silk that the worms have constructed. So there's
strands of silk that have little globs of sticky saliva
on it. So they look a little bit like icicles

(49:35):
or slagtites, but they're actually just strands of silk with
with sticky fit on it. And the reason they do
that is that even though they're beautiful and it looks
like this fairy wonderland, these are vicious carnivores. So they
will create these intricate like it's beauty. It looks like

(49:55):
Christmas lights and like you know, like those sort of
like icicle Christmas lights that angle down. It looks like
an exhibit that would be at a like a music festival. Yeah,
like a dum festival. Yeah, it's funny that you said
there they're caboss glow because I'm like, I mean, give
it like five ten years. That's going to be a trend.
Like some some Hollywood influencer is going to be like,

(50:17):
have you gotten the latest surgery to get a bioluminescent ask,
Oh my god, come on, I can't wait. But I'm
going to light at the club. Yes, please, thank you.
I'm going to get blowing button plants and and then
learn to twerk so that you know, that'll be my excuse.
It's like, look, I have to learn but dances because

(50:39):
my butt clows now I'd be depriving the world of
this glowing. But I'm only half joking. I'm like bioluminescent,
but especially if it's a nature, I could see this exactly.
Now I'm thinking I should crochet some juicy pants. But
with like bioluminescent threats, I support it. Yes, So they

(51:01):
create so all of these like beautiful dangling threads, and
then the worms themselves are bioluminescence, so the threads aren't
actually glowing, but it's reflecting the bioluminescence of the worms.
And all of this effect creates this dazzling lights light
display that moths and other insects that are traveling through
the cave will see. And moths actually use starlight to navigate,

(51:26):
so they don't just like go towards light because they're dumb.
They go towards light because they actually are able to
navigate in the night sky by following the stars in
the moon. And so in these caves, when you have
this like fake display of twinkling stars, it disorients the moths.
They fly towards the fake sky, even though it's not

(51:49):
a sky at all, it's just the ceiling of the cave.
And then they land into these sticky hanging threads and
become trapped. And as a glow worm feels a moth
vibrating their thread, they will reel in the thread and
eat the poor moth that thought it was flying towards starlight.

(52:10):
Oh my god, that's so sad. I mean, I hate moths,
but yeah, I mean, but what we do when we
moved to big cities, which is all getting trapped in
the web. It's that's exactly what liberal lies, socialism, l
A is just it's a little people don't know this,

(52:31):
but there's actually just a giant glow worm that eats everybody.
The earthquakes are the vibrations. That's right. Look it up. People.
Do you do your research? Don't you love it when
someone like proposes a crazy conspiracy theory, You're like, what
are you talking about? When I eat you do your research.
Every single time I've seen a documentary about conspiracy theorists,

(52:54):
the one person, like the doctor or the expert, who
was like, so I did, and it's like within minutes,
like and I disproved them immediately. It's like anyone's like
look it up. It's like, okay, I did. It's very
easy to disprove you, but you're not looking at the
right websites. Then if you ignore all of these other
books and then you just look at this one thread
written by this one blogger who's anonymous, but he keeps

(53:15):
it that way to protect himself and he doesn't back
it up with anything, but trust me, it's real. Like, OK,
Twitter is run by big glow Worm and everyone knows it.
So if you read sources by big glow worm, guess
what they're gonna deny that a giant glow worm lives
in l a and consumes everybody. Wake up sheeple. Anyways, UM,

(53:38):
it's really interesting because like the glow worms are so
committed to the grift, they actually there's like multiple glow
worm colonies within one cave, so a bunch of like
groups of glow worms that all kind of similar to
the web spinner where they kind of share their um.
They're woven silken runways a little bit or not runways,

(54:01):
sort of like railways and um. But the different colonies
also seem to collaborate. So one colony will have a
cycle where they're glowing and attracting insects, and then they'll
sort of like shut off and then another colony will
take their turn glowing, and it's relatively news to research,
so it's not exactly researchers aren't exactly sure why they

(54:23):
seem to take turns. Maybe it's like sort of a
way to ensure that the cave is sort of glowing
at all times, so you're always sort of getting a
flow of insects, but it's not going just to one
colony because they probably can't handle that many moths at once,
So you're sort of like working together to create a

(54:45):
eternally fake starlet sky to trick moths, but then making
sure all of the colonies sort of like get sort
of equal distributions of food. Again socialism. And then the
last thing I want to talk about is just so
charming and fun. It is a fun little game that

(55:09):
dolphins play. So dolphins are very playful, intelligent creatures, and
dolphins and other cetaceans like belugas like to do fun
underwater vape tricks, except not with vape, just with air.
So you know how like people with like I don't

(55:29):
have anything against vaping really I vape culture though sometimes
you know what I mean, we're so it's someone who
has dedicated their life to doing doing vape tricks. You know,
I think they're awesome. I love to see a vape trick.
I Uh, the lady doth protests too much, I think,

(55:50):
but I do want to. A couple of years ago,
when we were cracked, I thought it would before. I
never ended up doing this, but this is one of
those ideas. I was like, if I have too much time,
I'll do this. I wanted to write a step up
but with a kid who wanted to go to school
for competing vape tricks. Yeah, but mom, I want to
I don't want to go to college. I want to vape.
I want to be a vape bard. Now it is,

(56:11):
it is. I actually love to see a vape trick.
Those are those are pretty sick and tight and cool.
But dolphins, Katie's doing the check. I'm doing it exactly,
just taking a big, big half of vape. As they say,
as the kids say, don't they say that, you know
you're just gonna go and do some vape. I'm gonna

(56:33):
do some vape and blow some sick clouds. I'm very cool.
Love me, zoomers, love me so dolphins. Hey, zoomers, you
may think dolphins boring right. No, turns out they love
to do sick vape tricks to under the water, So

(56:53):
they will blow bubble rings underwater um using nothing but
their blowhole and little flipper tricks where they will create
a vortex by moving the water with their flipper, they'll
create a spinning vortex. They'll use their blowhole to blow
a bubble of air towards the vortex, and as it
gets caught up in the vortex, it creates this perfect,

(57:16):
beautiful shimmering ring of air under the water. You know
that scene in like the Hobbit where Gandalff is like
check this, check this out, froat, I'm gonna blow like
or no, no, wait. He's sitting with Bilbo and Bilbo
blows like a smoke ring and Gandalff is like, oh yeah,
that's pretty cool. Check this out, and he blows like

(57:37):
a whole like boat out of smoke out of his pipe. Okay,
Gandalf like, chill out. You know, I have no idea
if this is real or not. I mean, it sounds
like something that could happen, but it also sounds like
a joke with the Gandalff thing. I guess I don't know.
Lord of the Rings well enough to know if this

(57:57):
is a joke about Lord of the Rings or if
this is true. Yeah, it's a fictional like the movie
is fictional on account of all the magic and stuff.
But it did happen. I mean, like, if this is
from it, I know, I'm just kidding and giving me
a hard time whether it's aren't real, tore Tha, No,
it does happen in the movie. I don't remember if

(58:18):
it actually happens in the books. Um, please don't hurt me,
Tolkien fans, I don't remember the books that well. But yeah, no,
it definitely happens in the movie. And it's always I
always feel like Gandolf is kind of being a jerk
because it's like, oh, you can smoke blow like a ring,
Like I can make a boat out of smoke. Because
I'm a wizard. It's like, yeah, we know your magic
and stuff, like you know, it's just but this is

(58:42):
how I feel like the dolphins are flexing on us,
where it's like, oh, you can blow a smoke ring.
I guess that's cool. I can make a shimmering ring
of air underwater that is shiny and beautiful, and they
will do all sorts of trick with the rings, so
they can manipulate it. They can push it forward or
make it like do a spin. They'll even like blow

(59:04):
like a second ring and then like join them together
so that it forms one big ring. And when you
watch a video of them, which I will include in
the show, notes, like, it's very clear they are just
having a good time. There doesn't seem to be any
purpose to this. Now, dolphins do use bubbles as tools.
Sometimes they'll create bubble nets where they basically swim in

(59:26):
a circle around a group of fish and then blow
a bunch of like bubbles and or like use their
uh flippers to store up a bunch of bubbles and
the water and that traps the fish in this column
of bubbles and then they use that to hunt. But
with these bubble rings, there's no seemingly no practical purpose
to it. It's just for fun. They're just playing. It's

(59:46):
it's and they seem to understand the physics of the
bubble ring, not just in how they like interact with
it and like push it around and play with it,
but they also there's researchers that observe them doing this,
and they found that like you know the trick where
they do like the first bubble ring, and then they
do a second one and then join them together. The

(01:00:07):
dolphins would only do that if the first bubble ring
was structurally stable, so they like the dolphins learn like, Okay,
this bubble ring is like looks really good and stable,
so I can blow a second one to join with
the first one. So that means they know how this works.
They understand the physics of these bubbles and like how
to do sick bubble tricks. And it's they're almost like

(01:00:31):
the cats of the ocean, like cats who just hunt
but also play with their food and just a yard
they and they do literally play with their food, like
you'll see an article come out every so often where
it's like dolphins like to torture seals and like you
think they're cute and fun, but really they're like murderous
tortures and and it's just well, I mean, have you

(01:00:54):
ever had a house cat? Yeah, Like, predators like to
play with humans should not be speaking. I mean we
literally kill animals and then mold them into shapes of
other animals and eat them like dinoats. What's up with that?
That is such a crime against chickens. I'm not like
and look, I I must admit I'm not a full vegetarian.

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I do eat chickens, but I do feel weird about
disrespecting them by like forming them into dinosaurs where it's
like chickens, remember when you were a mighty dinosaur and
now you're just a little feathery dinosaur that we eat. Yeah, yeah,
that's true. There's that other layer. I mean, if you
believe in evolution, which I don't know. I'm just kidding, Um,

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Teresa's cancel, don't cancel me. Yeah. No, we're definitely the worst,
and we love to project like can you be these
animals are hunting? It's like, well, we just read them
to eat. Yeah, we uh, we do factory farming, which
some might argue is more cruel. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

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we are like I like really like throw the first stone,
which like I do. I do eat me by the way,
I just like to make observations. These are also roasting
me myself. I'm not trusting any stones on anyone or like, oh,
dolphinspied each other. It's like, yeah, we have, we have.
We have like basically any time we're like, oh, these

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animals are vicious and they fight each other we have
nukes that could we have enough nukes to basically destroy
the planet like ten times over. So if we treated
animals the way we defend male perpetrators in Hollywood when
stuff gets out wherever, it's like, yeah, but like, okay,
that's like how many people just two people? Yeah, but
look at all these good things they do with their food.

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That dolphin ripped the seals head off and is playing
with it like a football. It's like, but you know,
he's such a he's such a nice dolphin though, dolphin,
Like he's got a great career and like, dolphin, Look
how many kids has that dolphin made? Laugh? You know, right,
like the captain of the Dolphins soccer team potential dolphins. Uh,

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don't cancel dolphins. Don't cancel dolphins, is what I'm saying.
You know, like I can't, can't. There's a lot of
things we should cancel. Dolphins aren't one of them. Because
of all the cool bubble tricks they do. I really
am kind of a sucker for the dolphin bubble bubble tricks.
They like. They'll like sometimes balance sort of the bubble

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ring on their nose and then like whip it around
and it's like dolphin. I see what you're doing. You're
like one of them is eating a bubble. I saw that, Yeah, snappy,
Like imagine if this was a fish chump, I could
be fish anytime I want. Is there any maiding rituals
to this or is this just for fun? It's hard
to say, Like I wouldn't necessarily rule that out. I

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don't think there's any concrete research on whether it's a
form of communication, because certainly they do sometime do like
bubble blowing and like showboating as some form of communication.
It can be used to like impress other dolphins. I
don't know that it is strictly a mating routine, but
I think it's possible that, like they could use it

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to impress the ladies, be like, hey checked this at
I learned this trick. I like how it the tornatove love.
I mean, while I'm hooked. Well, is the only men
who did about? No? No? But I think they all
do it. It's it's just fun. It's like it it's interesting.
It's almost like dancing, because some people humans dance for

(01:04:36):
you know, to impress the potential base, but also people
just dance. Plus yeah, okay, I'm one of those people
because I danced by myself alone, and it's just as fun.
I was going to the book I danced for exercise.
Now I have that um Switch game called Just Dance
twenty and it's where like it tracks your movements somewhat

(01:04:58):
uh and like rates. It's definitely not doing a great
job tracking my movements because if it really could, it
would give me like an f on every dance I do.
But it's it's like, oh, You're a superstar. I'm like no, no, really,
I'm not, like, no, you are dancing? Is how you
much you feel it? I don't let the screen tell
you what to do. I think that like if it had,

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I do want it to. Like like if I could
wear a shirt that's like connected to the switch somehow
and it measures how much I sweat, I feel like
that would be the true measure of like how good
I'm dancing, because yeah, it's very sweaty when I get
into it, but it is. It is fun. Sometimes I
will change into more comfortable dancing clothes to cook because

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I really like to cook and dance at the time,
because I'll play music and I'll just dance around and
then move into my living room while like you know,
the waiting for the water to oil and just do
a little chork number and yeah it's fun. So but
I mean I think that we've basically word every hobby
you could possibly meet in uh and quarantine, whether it

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is baking bread out of your own saliva and pollen
or creating a fake starry sky with a bioluminescent. But
you know, I think we got everything covered. Do you
have any new hobbies do you think you're going to
try out to like, like inspired by these animals? Yeah,
the bioluminescent, but yeah, I'm gonna go for that. Yeah,

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Seconded agreed. Well, thank you so much for joining me today, Teresa.
I know you have a fun quarantine kind of entertainment
thing coming if you want to talk about that a
little bit. Sure. I'm doing a live show on Zoom
so Socially Distant on Friday. I guess this Friday, September
twenty seven pm. So you can got tickets online and

(01:06:50):
it'll be fun. It's uh, I'm doing stand up with
Bab's Gray and Dominique Jellen. Follow me at Larissa to
you to get tickets and also if you want to
buy a hat, I'm selling hats say cancel me, daddy nice.
Started as a Twitter joke. People actually wanted them, and
turns out they do. I but I have tell if
you left um. But yeah, so follow me online. You

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can get them there. That's fantastic. We need to get
these hats for dolphins so that like the dot like
when when the dolphins get canceled, they can be like, yeah,
well check out my hat. I wanted it to happen. Well,
that is awesome. Check that out. You can find us
at Creature feature Pot on Instagram, at Creature feet Pot

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on Twitter. That's f e a T not f e T.
That is something very different. You can find me at
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