September 24, 2025 • 29 mins
Mia talks with unionized abortion care worker Crystal about RFK Jr.’s new announcement that Tylenol in pregnant people can cause autism and the real reproductive healthcare crises in the US.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Cool Zone Media.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to Akadappa here, a podcast where your host wakes
up every morning and rolls a d six to determine
whether the government wants to exterminate her for being trans,
autistic or Chinese. This week I am your host, be
a long. We have rolled the dice. This week is
autism week, and by autism week, I mean anti autism week.
The Trump administration or specifically orifica junior promise at the
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beginning is like April roughly that they were going to
find the cause of autism by the end of the summer.
And they are claiming that the cause of autism is
taking tail and all when you're pregnant, and that's not true.
And to talk about how unbelievably vile and unhinged this
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is is Crystal, who's a unionized abortion care worker who
is also a clozilla on Blue Sky and a friend
of the show, done many things. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, thank you so much, Mea. It's always so wonderful
to come and talk about horrifying things with you and
be filled with existential dread together.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's so good, And by good, I mean the worst
thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm like this is such a great time to be
a trans, non binary abortion care worker. I just love
I love like being hated in so many different ways.
You just like a rich tapestry of hatred towards you.
It's really great, so good.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So okay, that's actually kind of where I want to
start about this is that most of the media coverage
of this has been purely focusing on the tail and
al causing autism, well especifically that causing autism. And I
want to point out because most of the news articles
that cover this simply do not mention this. They are
also claiming that taking tailanol if you're pregnant causes ADHD,
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a thing which you think would be noteworthy to point out,
but has just not. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
know why people are reading the transcript. I don't know why,
but they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, I actual I hadn't seen that part.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Like I was literally just reading and observing like this
the pregnancy and what that means for you know, pregnant people,
and I like didn't see any of the ADHD stuff,
So that was new when you brought that up to me.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it's it's just not being reported on. It's really baffling.
So I want to before we sort of busy get
into the wait, hold on, why the fuck are they
doing this? What is happening here? Because and as Chris
All going to say, actually toile it all is safe
for people who are pregnant, It's fine. But I want
to go over a bit of like what's actually in
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this because it's a really really weird. We're going to
be getting more into the sort of like into the
autism angle in another episode next week, but I want
to talk a little bit about just like the actual
stuff that was in this announcement where Trump is saying
that a you shouldn't give towle all to pregnant people
and also saying like you shouldn't give it to like
young children, and is like, you know, it's like ranting
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about like mercury aluminum in vaccines, which like this shit
isn't real, Like there hasn't even been anything that even
remotely related to mercury vaccines for ages. It also never
did anything, but this is all weird. Andrew Wakefield special shit.
He also has this thing where he's talking about like
how you should separate the MMR vaccines, which is a
thing that if you have seen the h bomber Guy video,
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you will know the reason that that was an anti
vax talking point was because Wakefield was selling separate vaccines,
and so he was trying to convince parents that having
all three of the vaccines at once to give their
kids autism. But if he did it separately, it wouldn't
through scientific things that don't make any sense, even according
to his own incredibly made up bullshit. Wakefield, by the way,
is the guy who sort of kicked off the modern
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anti vaccine movements by abusing a bunch of children and
publishing an incredibly fake study and then getting it retracted
and then getting his let midical license attracted because it
was incredibly fake and abused children. So Trump is sort
of just repeating the stuff that he's like vaguely remembers.
There's this a whole bunch of this sort of like
stuffy vaguely remembers like he's he's he goes on a
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random rant about like how Cuba doesn't have thailot all,
so they don't have autism, and that homage people and
this is the one that goes around laws like, oh,
people don't have autism because they don't take drugs, and
it's like, oh my god. I also just I want
to read a quote from RFK Junior about this, which,
again and I want to point this out, the actual
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point of this thing is announcing that the FDA is
not going to recommend that you take a set of
metaphine or tailand all if you're pregnant. I'm just gonna
read this, and I'm gonna ask if you can figure
out what the link between this and thailo All is.
This is from RFK Junior quote. President Trump believes that
we should be listening to these mothers instead of gas
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lighting and marginalizing them, marginalizing them like prior administrations. Some
of our friends like to say, we should believe all women.
Some of these same people have been silencing and demonizing
these mothers for three decades because research onto potent link
between autism and vaccines has been suppressed in the past.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So is this basically talking about kind of like the
celebrity anti vax people and like the grifters.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And yeah, yeah, it's like I can't believe that. Oh,
I mean I can believe, but like a the fact
that RFK Junior noted repeatedly accused of sexual assault, and
whose response when asked to about it was quote, I
have a lot of skeletons in my closet, is doing
believe all women? But about vaccines causing autism?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I mean it's only just like a talking point
that they can use in their favor, he is, it's
never actually about you know it?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh god? And I like that, like this is just
like the average thing in this speech that isn't barely
even getting use coverage.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean there's also what Trump said as well, which
oh yeah, because I've seen a lot of that too,
And it's like between what Trump said and what RFK
Junior said, it's like what where do you even like
where does the media focus? Like, how do you explain
this to the American audience?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. And then they also brought in
Marty mcerray, who's the commissioner of the FDA, who has
a giant rants about how, like I learned in medical school,
just treat fevers, low grade fevers with the seed of metaphine.
Why what are we doing? A STUDI out of Hopkins
actually showed treating a fever can prolong the duration of
illness in a young child. Maybe that's because fever is
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a body's natural way of ridding an infection.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, well that's absolutely not true.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I mean there's like we know that like fevers are
dangerous for young children and pregnant people.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's just it's just total made up bullshit, Like it's
just eugenics, right, Like they're they're like, oh, no, you
shouldn't actually do anything to treat the illnesses because if
the child is strong, then like they'll go through it
naturally and they'll become stronger. And it's like, no, that's eugenics. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
This goes for the pregnancy of it all too, because
it's about being able to suffer and enduring. And it's
the same case, the same kind of like puritanical survival
of the fittest eugenic shit, whether you're talking about pregnancy
or you're talking about like literally young children who have fevers,
same same like approach.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. This also links directly back to what they're trying
to do here, right, because the thing that they're trying
to do is get rid of autistic people. Yeah, like
they don't want there to be children born with autism. Yeah,
and in order to do this, they are willing to
not take vaccines, they are willing to well, I mean,
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I guess, I guess I guess I should say not
letting pregnant people take TYL and all is really truly
the most some of you must die. But that's sacrifice
I'm willing to make thing that I've ever seen. But
it's you know, it's absolutely hideous there. It's like, yeah,
these people, they don't want autistic kids to be born,
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you know. And that's also just straight up part of
the eugenics thing that the project that they're doing. Right
there's on the one hand, the sort of pure survival
of the fittest, fuck them kids, let them just die
of fevers, and then on the other hand there's the
just active like, oh, we're just gonna do all this
stuff that we think will just make it there not
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be autistic kids.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, and they definitely care more about their being less
autistic children than there are about actually, like you know,
addressing infant mortality. Yeah, and it's definitely it's treating autism
as in something that can be prevented by the choice
of the parents, as opposed to it just being something
that some people are born that way. Also, you know,
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same with being queer and trans and all these things.
It's this idea that you can like choose it that
you can, like, if the parents are strong enough and
they can endure enough pain and they can suffer enough,
and if they, you know, make the right choices, then
they can avoid having a child with autism. And it's
not really that dissimilar than like, oh, what to do
if you like have a queer child, a trans child.
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It's this idea that like that is something that can
be controlled and eliminated, which is eugenics, which is you know,
as you've been saying, so definitely.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Uh, do you know what isn't eugenics?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
The products and services? I would really hope, so fucking hope.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I really I don't know. I cannot. I don't know
what these ads are going to be if they are eugenics,
let us know at I write okay on Twitter in
blue sky Actually I don't know if you still on Twitter,
I have no idea, but on their in ages, woo,
these ads. We are back. So let's talk about specifically
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the don't use Thailand all of it all. Can you
talk a bit about just like the importance of thailand
all and pain management for pregnant people.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, And I've bet like there's definitely probably people out
there who are like, why tail and all? Why did
they choose this? Like where did this come from? Is
it because Trump can't say a sentimenaphin? You know a
lot of people have been you know, speculating, And first off,
I do want to say that autism predates tile and all,
like oh, like thilan all like came to be in
like the nineteen fifties, and you know, autism existed before
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that and has probably already always been around to some degree,
which we don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's it's a very complex and we're still you know,
there's been so much stigma around it for so long
that it's difficult to talk about. But thilanol is basically
one of the only pain medications that pregnant people can take,
and that's why it's til and all. I think that
that is the way of looking at this, where it's like,
why did they single out this medication? And it's because
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it's the only pain medication that a pregnant person can take,
because as we know, there's other pain medications. Like the
end SAIDs like hyberprofen and nepoxen, and then of course
there's opioids, which is obviously not good during pregnancy the course,
talk to your doctor, because I'm not a doctor. You
should always get this from doctors. Talk to your obgian
but en sets are typically not recommended in the last
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three months of pregnancy because they can cause issues with
amniotic fluid and baby's kidneys and things like that. So
it is typically recommended that you avoid iyboprofen and other
things like that, and you take tile and all to
reduce fevers, to reduce pain. Obviously, there is a lot
to be sick with when you're pregnant.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
There's a lot of source of pain.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You know, Fever and headaches are definitely something that pregnant
people experience. But pretty much like because it is the
only pain medication that pregnant people can take, then it's
really easy to be like, oh, well, what are they taking?
This is what they're taking, and then you can go
from there. And this is very much coming from It
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feels so weird saying this coming from like a biblical
sense of like Eve in the Apple, Eve is the
original sinner. I think, I don't know, like you know,
Eve did the bad thing. So Eve needs to suffer
during pregnancy. All women need to suffer during pregnancy. That
is a very much like a very biblical take on this,
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And I think that is kind of why why tile
and all, because it's what pregnant people are taking to
reduce pain and to address views.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, and I want to read a quote from the
Commissioner of the FDA that he gave while he was
speaking about this, where he says, quote, when my wife
was pregnant and delivered our son a few months ago,
they pushed her to take a seat of metapine for
a low grade fever. She said no, And then they
looked at me and I said, absolutely no. I'm also
here to announce good news today. The FDA is filing
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a Federal registered notice to change the label on an
exciting treatment called prescription lokovin so it can be available
the children with autism. So you could see, like how
casually is do like just doing this like no, no, no,
no, no no. Yeah, Like I'm really proud of my wife
for saying no to taking tyle lenol for a fever,
and like they also look look at this and it's
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like the like, oh, they pushed her to take a
seat of medaphine for a low grade fever. It's like
that's an extremely normal thing for a doctor to say
to you, Like, take tailanol for your fever is like
the least like medically invasive thing a doctor can possibly recommend.
Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, it's really basic medicine. And also like there's like
there's a ways to profit off of this too, because
if you can't take any pain medication when you're pregnant,
but you can take I think they were recommending something
like I don't even know it was like something fallic
acid thingy. They were recommending that you take something which
obviously now can be like profit off of and sold.
This is a very capitalist, very grifter approach to medicine
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and healthcare because obviously, always talk to your doctor and
your obgian about taking any medication when you're pregnant, Like,
talk to your doctor.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
They're going to be the best source of information.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So the folic acid thing is a lekoverin, which is
a medicine for anemia and counteracting the effects of chemotherapy meds.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And then there's specifically like, oh, this will stop your
children from having autism. Okay, no it won't.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I mean like there are there are respected organizations speaking
up right now kind of like about like the facts,
about the studies, about what's real. So there's like Physicians
for Reproductive Health, you know, saying like there's decades of
study of studies of thailand all being safe to take
during pregnancy. There's ACOG, which is a big professional membership
organization of like tens of thousands of obgyns saying like, hey,
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thailand all is safe during pregnancy. So there's been decades
of studies on tailanol use and pregnancy. Some of the
studies published in the Journal of the American Medical Association
that says how safe it is is, so like it
is it is, it is safe. It is absolutely one
hundred percent safe to take to treat pain and fever
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during pregnancy. So, like you know, in terms of like
who can you look to, like, definitely look at the
obgyns right now and what they're saying and the physicians
and these respective organizations, because they're going to tell you
the truth. But the problem is that that this information
is not reaching the public.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, and instead, yeah, they're just getting the President of
the United States and all of these just weird conspiracy
people that they've installed as the people running the US
medical establishment, being like, oh no, actually this is really
bad for you for reasons.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, it's all very vague, it's not really backed by
like decades of medical research. And like also too, there's
so many people who have not taken any medication during
pregnancy and they still have children who are autistic.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, it's just like it's just absolutely ridiculous. And like
any way you look at the number, like in terms
of you know, if you look at like the increasing
race of tile and all usage by pregnant people versus
like autistic kids, it's not like the timely usage goes
up way higher and then the artistic numbers don't change
that much relative to it. It's just like it's all
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just the nonsense.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Well, so there is the eugenics of it all, and
there's also the aspect that we've been dealing with with
the rampant abortion bands and the criminalization of pregnancy that
we've been seeing over honestly over the decades. It's about
controlling bodies. And like this is also with trans healthcare too,
Like it it's about it's about eugenics, about kind of
this necropolitics of choosing who lives and dies and being
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able to choose everything about a person's body, even how
they're just stated, you know, like oh, the parents shouldn't
take this and they shouldn't do this, And then it
opens up when it comes to control and surveillance and
criminalization of a pregnant person that can go in so
many different directions because you know they're telling you not
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to take tile, and al if they just randomly chose tilanol,
they can randomly choose anything. They could talk about epidurals,
because there is like this idea that you should suffer
and that you shouldn't treat fever and that you should
experience pain during pregnancy, just like that one quote that
you shared about his wife. So they're going to like
start targeting other things. And also there's already so much
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criticism and control and judgment and stigma over things like
if you're working while you're pregnant, if you're drinking coffee
while you're pregnant, if you're eating certain things. There's already
so much like policing over pregnant bodies without even touching
on abortion. But like they're also trying to control how
you even dispose of pregnancies, like if you're looking at
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the states that are requiring you to call the police
if you have a miscarriage, so that it's like they
want to control how you miscarry, how you have an abortion.
Worth noting too, because this is absolutely connected to abortion
and abortion pills. If the government is coming out and
saying that taile and all causes autism and it's not
safe to take while you're pregnant or to use to
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treat a fever in young children, then they can also
say things like the abortion pill is not safe because
they've been trying to get the FDA to take away
the approval of Mithipristoe saying that it's dangerous. And you know,
if they're going to say that tail and all is
dangerous and causes autism, then it's like it's going to
be so easy for them to say that the abortion
pill is deadly as well.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And they've already been doing this with vaccines in terms
of like like they've they've been restricting access to vaccines
to people without pre existing conditions, which admittedly is a
lot of people. Like the list of pre existing conditions
is really long and you should just try to get
them anyways. But like, yeah, like this isn't a hypothetical.
They are already doing this with vaccines, a thing that
we do all need in order to not get horribly
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sick and die from plagues, a thing which there are
many of right now.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and I think that this definitely goes to show
how topics like abortion and early pregnancy loss and miscarriage
and abortions later in pregnancy, like the way they've been
talking about this has spread to all aspects of pregnancy,
and it's spreading to other areas too, Like so when
we haven't addressed the bands and the stigma and the criminalization,
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it's been spreading. It's spread to vaccines, it's spreading to
trans healthcare. It's just it's just I feel like I've
been watching this black hole just grow and grow and
grow over the years and just take away our access
to these to these really basic medical things. And yeah,
like I just see, like we let it happen with
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abortion and then now all of a sudden, now we
can't take tail and all during pregnancy because it caused autism. Yep,
there's so much to say about the eugenics and autism
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aspect of this.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
So much to say more than like we can say
right now.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Don't worry. There will be another episode of this show
about yeah, with some doctors next week probably.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's like focusing right now on like pregnancy and policing
pregnant bodies and tailanol and pain management and what's real
the fact that TAILANL is safe to take while pregnant
and doesn't cause autism.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You know, it's really dwelling on that.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
But like there is a lot to say, There's a
lot to say about the implications of this, where like
where this came from in our society and where it's going.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And it's all really horrifying.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, it's it's it's exceptionally bleak. But I do think
and this is I think a theme we're going to
be returning to a lot in the coming days and weeks.
But like, the only silver lining for this is that
this ship is not popular. It's just not People hate it.
People hate the administration. They have been hating the station.
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Every day it goes by, they hate it more, you know,
And this is part of the control strategy, right, part
of the reason why they're making these incredibly draconian moves
into like authoritarian moves into the domestic spheres, because it's
a way of suppressing descent, and they have to do that.
They have to suppress dessense, and they have to take
things from us, and they have to continue to try
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to just beat everyone into submission because they can't do
it through actual persuasion. What they have is the violence
of the state, and they're going to try to keep
doing that. But the violence of the state only functions
insofar as people allow it to function, you know, And
this has always been sort of the secret of the
United States, which is that like a bunch of the
things that they're doing, or they're attacked as that cracked
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downs that they're attempting to do, are effectively unenforceable because
people simply refuse to cooperate with them. And you know,
this is a field well, I mean, I don't know
until they just straight up ban tile and all. This
is a thing where I guess we're mostly just trying
to spread information. But like the things that they do
can be opposed, and when people oppose them on mass,
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they lose. And I don't know, I want to give
people a little tiny bit of hope.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
You want to be positive.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, So the deterioration of public health in the United
States is absolutely state violence.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Focusing on thaile andol and stigmatizing autism and people with
autism is like distracting from so many things that are
actual public health emergencies. So when they're talking about pregnancy,
they're talking about tilenel and autism. There are so much
more severe things going on in the United States right
now when it comes to both the health of pregnant
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people and infants. So there's the Black maternal mortality crisis,
which is so severe in so many states that is
just constantly, like abortion bands have made that even worse.
There's terrible infant mortality rates rising in states. So for example,
Mississippi declared infant dense and emergency because they halted that
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CDC information data collection program. So Mississippi declared a public
health emergency from rising informortality. And there's also, I mean,
I believe that the abortion bands are a medical crisis
as well. And there's also huge obgyn deserts in this country,
Like we're seeing like the loss of obgyn health providers
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where people can't access a obgyn for miles and miles
and miles and there's just entirely a lack of providers.
These are all very very serious public health emergencies, and
yet they're talking about autism.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah. Well, and also as such as they're talking about
is they're making all of these crises worse, like specifically
the opgyn crisis. It's like, yeah, I don't know, they've
been kicking a bunch of people off of their access
to of their access to government insurance, and like what
does that do? Oh wait, hold on, It just absolutely
and nice relates the income and revenue base of a
bunch of hospitals that already like weren't making much money
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in rural areas, and so more of them close because
they lease their revenue sources, and suddenly all of these
crises just continue to get worse.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, so we have like this stigmatization of autism, parents
of autistic children, trans people, trans children, when like they're
focusing on this and they're vilifying and dog piling and
stigmatizing and and all of these things these groups. While
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there is this snowballing of crises, the damage already just
from Roe v. Wade being overturned in twenty twenty two,
Like it's like been three years and there's just been
this like cascading just ever increasing the public health disasters
from it, and yet we're we're stigmatizing vulnerable people.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, in the ways that we've been talking about, right.
Their ideology is about inflicting suffering on vulnerable people because
they think that it's good, and that's a thing that's
you know, i mean just obviously incompatible with public health
as a concept, which is you know, part of why
they're sort of dismantling it. Part of it is that
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these people are all like selling their own weird anti
vaccine grift stuff that they've been selling for years and
years and years and years, and all of this has
just sort of come together into just the sort of
abyss where all everything that was the public health infrastructure
in this country, which was insufficient to begin with, i'd
just been disappearing more and more into.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, the erosion of our public health. You know, this
isn't like new, these decades of you know, this coming
into being where we are right now. But it's been
really horrible to watch as a healthcare worker, as somebody
who cares about just like everyone being able to get
like evidence based care, have access to medical providers, and
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then also the ability to do whatever kind of health
care they need to be able to do on their
own as well, to just have this solid medical information.
And then also like there's the public education of it
all too, because already, like there's this attack on public education,
which autistic children need a lot of support in order
to thrive, and schools are you know, they could be
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equipped to do that where I've seen wonderful programs and
wonderful education services that really set people up for success.
And this goes for like everyone obviously, like any child
is going to benefit from this, but it just it
makes everything so much worse, Like parents and families and
just autistic people just don't get enough support period, just
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like trans people as well. And then we're all just
being thrown under the bus for the capitalist class and
the elites so they can continue to like you know,
hide their pedophilia rings and like the whole just the
fact that they're all like because like what you said
earlier about rfay, Yeah, these are all a bunch of
child molesters telling us that we're not strong or brave
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enough to endure pain that we can easily treat with
the medical technology that we have ye, And I feel
like I normally, I feel like I used to not
talk like this. I used to not be like child
molesters in the government, Like I kind of feel like,
but I'm like, this is literally.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Where we are right now somehow.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So here I am, like, you know, talking about tile
and all being safe for pregnant people, tail and all
not causing autism, and then talking about the fact that
our government is wrung run by a bunch of pedophiles.
Not quite where I expected to be if you had
talked to me like eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Maybe it's really something.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's it's really wild to be talking about this right now.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And like we knew this was coming too, Like there's
been months of whispers where it's like, oh, yeah, they're
going to say til and all causes autism. So like this,
I knew this was coming somehow. I don't even know how.
It's just yeah, I feel like it's all very transparent,
like there's leagues and there's whatever. But I like, I
knew this was coming for months, and yet here we are.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Here we are, yeah, And I don't know, I think
that's as good for a place to end, unless you
have anything else you want to make sure you get.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
In I just want to say again that it's safe
to take tile and all during pregnancy and it doesn't
cause autism.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah. Absolutely, and tell everyone.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You know that and share good resources like ACOG acog
Physicians for Reproductive Health PRH I believe is their initials acronym.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
We will put links to stuff in the description of this.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, and also ask your doctor about medication that you
should take, whether you're pregnant or not. You know, it's
cool to ask your doctor stuff, like, just ask them questions.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, Yeah, that is what they are there for.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to Akadappa here, a podcast where your host wakes
up every morning and rolls a d six to determine
whether the government wants to exterminate her for being trans,
autistic or Chinese. This week I am your host, be
a long. We have rolled the dice. This week is
autism week, and by autism week, I mean anti autism week.
The Trump administration or specifically orifica junior promise at the
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beginning is like April roughly that they were going to
find the cause of autism by the end of the summer.
And they are claiming that the cause of autism is
taking tail and all when you're pregnant, and that's not true.
And to talk about how unbelievably vile and unhinged this
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is is Crystal, who's a unionized abortion care worker who
is also a clozilla on Blue Sky and a friend
of the show, done many things. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, thank you so much, Mea. It's always so wonderful
to come and talk about horrifying things with you and
be filled with existential dread together.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's so good, And by good, I mean the worst
thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm like this is such a great time to be
a trans, non binary abortion care worker. I just love
I love like being hated in so many different ways.
You just like a rich tapestry of hatred towards you.
It's really great, so good.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So okay, that's actually kind of where I want to
start about this is that most of the media coverage
of this has been purely focusing on the tail and
al causing autism, well especifically that causing autism. And I
want to point out because most of the news articles
that cover this simply do not mention this. They are
also claiming that taking tailanol if you're pregnant causes ADHD,
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a thing which you think would be noteworthy to point out,
but has just not. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
know why people are reading the transcript. I don't know why,
but they're not.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah, I actual I hadn't seen that part.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Like I was literally just reading and observing like this
the pregnancy and what that means for you know, pregnant people,
and I like didn't see any of the ADHD stuff,
So that was new when you brought that up to me.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, it's it's just not being reported on. It's really baffling.
So I want to before we sort of busy get
into the wait, hold on, why the fuck are they
doing this? What is happening here? Because and as Chris
All going to say, actually toile it all is safe
for people who are pregnant, It's fine. But I want
to go over a bit of like what's actually in
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this because it's a really really weird. We're going to
be getting more into the sort of like into the
autism angle in another episode next week, but I want
to talk a little bit about just like the actual
stuff that was in this announcement where Trump is saying
that a you shouldn't give towle all to pregnant people
and also saying like you shouldn't give it to like
young children, and is like, you know, it's like ranting
(02:58):
about like mercury aluminum in vaccines, which like this shit
isn't real, Like there hasn't even been anything that even
remotely related to mercury vaccines for ages. It also never
did anything, but this is all weird. Andrew Wakefield special shit.
He also has this thing where he's talking about like
how you should separate the MMR vaccines, which is a
thing that if you have seen the h bomber Guy video,
(03:19):
you will know the reason that that was an anti
vax talking point was because Wakefield was selling separate vaccines,
and so he was trying to convince parents that having
all three of the vaccines at once to give their
kids autism. But if he did it separately, it wouldn't
through scientific things that don't make any sense, even according
to his own incredibly made up bullshit. Wakefield, by the way,
is the guy who sort of kicked off the modern
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anti vaccine movements by abusing a bunch of children and
publishing an incredibly fake study and then getting it retracted
and then getting his let midical license attracted because it
was incredibly fake and abused children. So Trump is sort
of just repeating the stuff that he's like vaguely remembers.
There's this a whole bunch of this sort of like
stuffy vaguely remembers like he's he's he goes on a
(04:04):
random rant about like how Cuba doesn't have thailot all,
so they don't have autism, and that homage people and
this is the one that goes around laws like, oh,
people don't have autism because they don't take drugs, and
it's like, oh my god. I also just I want
to read a quote from RFK Junior about this, which,
again and I want to point this out, the actual
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point of this thing is announcing that the FDA is
not going to recommend that you take a set of
metaphine or tailand all if you're pregnant. I'm just gonna
read this, and I'm gonna ask if you can figure
out what the link between this and thailo All is.
This is from RFK Junior quote. President Trump believes that
we should be listening to these mothers instead of gas
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lighting and marginalizing them, marginalizing them like prior administrations. Some
of our friends like to say, we should believe all women.
Some of these same people have been silencing and demonizing
these mothers for three decades because research onto potent link
between autism and vaccines has been suppressed in the past.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So is this basically talking about kind of like the
celebrity anti vax people and like the grifters.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And yeah, yeah, it's like I can't believe that. Oh,
I mean I can believe, but like a the fact
that RFK Junior noted repeatedly accused of sexual assault, and
whose response when asked to about it was quote, I
have a lot of skeletons in my closet, is doing
believe all women? But about vaccines causing autism?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I mean it's only just like a talking point
that they can use in their favor, he is, it's
never actually about you know it?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh god? And I like that, like this is just
like the average thing in this speech that isn't barely
even getting use coverage.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I mean there's also what Trump said as well, which
oh yeah, because I've seen a lot of that too,
And it's like between what Trump said and what RFK
Junior said, it's like what where do you even like
where does the media focus? Like, how do you explain
this to the American audience?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. And then they also brought in
Marty mcerray, who's the commissioner of the FDA, who has
a giant rants about how, like I learned in medical school,
just treat fevers, low grade fevers with the seed of metaphine.
Why what are we doing? A STUDI out of Hopkins
actually showed treating a fever can prolong the duration of
illness in a young child. Maybe that's because fever is
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a body's natural way of ridding an infection.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, well that's absolutely not true.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I mean there's like we know that like fevers are
dangerous for young children and pregnant people.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's just it's just total made up bullshit, Like it's
just eugenics, right, Like they're they're like, oh, no, you
shouldn't actually do anything to treat the illnesses because if
the child is strong, then like they'll go through it
naturally and they'll become stronger. And it's like, no, that's eugenics. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
This goes for the pregnancy of it all too, because
it's about being able to suffer and enduring. And it's
the same case, the same kind of like puritanical survival
of the fittest eugenic shit, whether you're talking about pregnancy
or you're talking about like literally young children who have fevers,
same same like approach.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. This also links directly back to what they're trying
to do here, right, because the thing that they're trying
to do is get rid of autistic people. Yeah, like
they don't want there to be children born with autism. Yeah,
and in order to do this, they are willing to
not take vaccines, they are willing to well, I mean,
(07:40):
I guess, I guess I guess I should say not
letting pregnant people take TYL and all is really truly
the most some of you must die. But that's sacrifice
I'm willing to make thing that I've ever seen. But
it's you know, it's absolutely hideous there. It's like, yeah,
these people, they don't want autistic kids to be born,
(08:00):
you know. And that's also just straight up part of
the eugenics thing that the project that they're doing. Right
there's on the one hand, the sort of pure survival
of the fittest, fuck them kids, let them just die
of fevers, and then on the other hand there's the
just active like, oh, we're just gonna do all this
stuff that we think will just make it there not
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be autistic kids.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, and they definitely care more about their being less
autistic children than there are about actually, like you know,
addressing infant mortality. Yeah, and it's definitely it's treating autism
as in something that can be prevented by the choice
of the parents, as opposed to it just being something
that some people are born that way. Also, you know,
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same with being queer and trans and all these things.
It's this idea that you can like choose it that
you can, like, if the parents are strong enough and
they can endure enough pain and they can suffer enough,
and if they, you know, make the right choices, then
they can avoid having a child with autism. And it's
not really that dissimilar than like, oh, what to do
if you like have a queer child, a trans child.
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It's this idea that like that is something that can
be controlled and eliminated, which is eugenics, which is you know,
as you've been saying, so definitely.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Uh, do you know what isn't eugenics?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
The products and services? I would really hope, so fucking hope.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I really I don't know. I cannot. I don't know
what these ads are going to be if they are eugenics,
let us know at I write okay on Twitter in
blue sky Actually I don't know if you still on Twitter,
I have no idea, but on their in ages, woo,
these ads. We are back. So let's talk about specifically
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the don't use Thailand all of it all. Can you
talk a bit about just like the importance of thailand
all and pain management for pregnant people.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, And I've bet like there's definitely probably people out
there who are like, why tail and all? Why did
they choose this? Like where did this come from? Is
it because Trump can't say a sentimenaphin? You know a
lot of people have been you know, speculating, And first off,
I do want to say that autism predates tile and all,
like oh, like thilan all like came to be in
like the nineteen fifties, and you know, autism existed before
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that and has probably already always been around to some degree,
which we don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's it's a very complex and we're still you know,
there's been so much stigma around it for so long
that it's difficult to talk about. But thilanol is basically
one of the only pain medications that pregnant people can take,
and that's why it's til and all. I think that
that is the way of looking at this, where it's like,
why did they single out this medication? And it's because
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it's the only pain medication that a pregnant person can take,
because as we know, there's other pain medications. Like the
end SAIDs like hyberprofen and nepoxen, and then of course
there's opioids, which is obviously not good during pregnancy the course,
talk to your doctor, because I'm not a doctor. You
should always get this from doctors. Talk to your obgian
but en sets are typically not recommended in the last
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three months of pregnancy because they can cause issues with
amniotic fluid and baby's kidneys and things like that. So
it is typically recommended that you avoid iyboprofen and other
things like that, and you take tile and all to
reduce fevers, to reduce pain. Obviously, there is a lot
to be sick with when you're pregnant.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
There's a lot of source of pain.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You know, Fever and headaches are definitely something that pregnant
people experience. But pretty much like because it is the
only pain medication that pregnant people can take, then it's
really easy to be like, oh, well, what are they taking?
This is what they're taking, and then you can go
from there. And this is very much coming from It
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feels so weird saying this coming from like a biblical
sense of like Eve in the Apple, Eve is the
original sinner. I think, I don't know, like you know,
Eve did the bad thing. So Eve needs to suffer
during pregnancy. All women need to suffer during pregnancy. That
is a very much like a very biblical take on this,
(12:16):
And I think that is kind of why why tile
and all, because it's what pregnant people are taking to
reduce pain and to address views.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, and I want to read a quote from the
Commissioner of the FDA that he gave while he was
speaking about this, where he says, quote, when my wife
was pregnant and delivered our son a few months ago,
they pushed her to take a seat of metapine for
a low grade fever. She said no, And then they
looked at me and I said, absolutely no. I'm also
here to announce good news today. The FDA is filing
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a Federal registered notice to change the label on an
exciting treatment called prescription lokovin so it can be available
the children with autism. So you could see, like how
casually is do like just doing this like no, no, no,
no, no no. Yeah, Like I'm really proud of my wife
for saying no to taking tyle lenol for a fever,
and like they also look look at this and it's
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like the like, oh, they pushed her to take a
seat of medaphine for a low grade fever. It's like
that's an extremely normal thing for a doctor to say
to you, Like, take tailanol for your fever is like
the least like medically invasive thing a doctor can possibly recommend.
Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, it's really basic medicine. And also like there's like
there's a ways to profit off of this too, because
if you can't take any pain medication when you're pregnant,
but you can take I think they were recommending something
like I don't even know it was like something fallic
acid thingy. They were recommending that you take something which
obviously now can be like profit off of and sold.
This is a very capitalist, very grifter approach to medicine
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and healthcare because obviously, always talk to your doctor and
your obgian about taking any medication when you're pregnant, Like,
talk to your doctor.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
They're going to be the best source of information.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So the folic acid thing is a lekoverin, which is
a medicine for anemia and counteracting the effects of chemotherapy meds.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And then there's specifically like, oh, this will stop your
children from having autism. Okay, no it won't.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I mean like there are there are respected organizations speaking
up right now kind of like about like the facts,
about the studies, about what's real. So there's like Physicians
for Reproductive Health, you know, saying like there's decades of
study of studies of thailand all being safe to take
during pregnancy. There's ACOG, which is a big professional membership
organization of like tens of thousands of obgyns saying like, hey,
(14:46):
thailand all is safe during pregnancy. So there's been decades
of studies on tailanol use and pregnancy. Some of the
studies published in the Journal of the American Medical Association
that says how safe it is is, so like it
is it is, it is safe. It is absolutely one
hundred percent safe to take to treat pain and fever
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during pregnancy. So, like you know, in terms of like
who can you look to, like, definitely look at the
obgyns right now and what they're saying and the physicians
and these respective organizations, because they're going to tell you
the truth. But the problem is that that this information
is not reaching the public.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, and instead, yeah, they're just getting the President of
the United States and all of these just weird conspiracy
people that they've installed as the people running the US
medical establishment, being like, oh no, actually this is really
bad for you for reasons.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, it's all very vague, it's not really backed by
like decades of medical research. And like also too, there's
so many people who have not taken any medication during
pregnancy and they still have children who are autistic.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, it's just like it's just absolutely ridiculous. And like
any way you look at the number, like in terms
of you know, if you look at like the increasing
race of tile and all usage by pregnant people versus
like autistic kids, it's not like the timely usage goes
up way higher and then the artistic numbers don't change
that much relative to it. It's just like it's all
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just the nonsense.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Well, so there is the eugenics of it all, and
there's also the aspect that we've been dealing with with
the rampant abortion bands and the criminalization of pregnancy that
we've been seeing over honestly over the decades. It's about
controlling bodies. And like this is also with trans healthcare too,
Like it it's about it's about eugenics, about kind of
this necropolitics of choosing who lives and dies and being
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able to choose everything about a person's body, even how
they're just stated, you know, like oh, the parents shouldn't
take this and they shouldn't do this, And then it
opens up when it comes to control and surveillance and
criminalization of a pregnant person that can go in so
many different directions because you know they're telling you not
(17:03):
to take tile, and al if they just randomly chose tilanol,
they can randomly choose anything. They could talk about epidurals,
because there is like this idea that you should suffer
and that you shouldn't treat fever and that you should
experience pain during pregnancy, just like that one quote that
you shared about his wife. So they're going to like
start targeting other things. And also there's already so much
(17:25):
criticism and control and judgment and stigma over things like
if you're working while you're pregnant, if you're drinking coffee
while you're pregnant, if you're eating certain things. There's already
so much like policing over pregnant bodies without even touching
on abortion. But like they're also trying to control how
you even dispose of pregnancies, like if you're looking at
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the states that are requiring you to call the police
if you have a miscarriage, so that it's like they
want to control how you miscarry, how you have an abortion.
Worth noting too, because this is absolutely connected to abortion
and abortion pills. If the government is coming out and
saying that taile and all causes autism and it's not
safe to take while you're pregnant or to use to
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treat a fever in young children, then they can also
say things like the abortion pill is not safe because
they've been trying to get the FDA to take away
the approval of Mithipristoe saying that it's dangerous. And you know,
if they're going to say that tail and all is
dangerous and causes autism, then it's like it's going to
be so easy for them to say that the abortion
pill is deadly as well.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And they've already been doing this with vaccines in terms
of like like they've they've been restricting access to vaccines
to people without pre existing conditions, which admittedly is a
lot of people. Like the list of pre existing conditions
is really long and you should just try to get
them anyways. But like, yeah, like this isn't a hypothetical.
They are already doing this with vaccines, a thing that
we do all need in order to not get horribly
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sick and die from plagues, a thing which there are
many of right now.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, and I think that this definitely goes to show
how topics like abortion and early pregnancy loss and miscarriage
and abortions later in pregnancy, like the way they've been
talking about this has spread to all aspects of pregnancy,
and it's spreading to other areas too, Like so when
we haven't addressed the bands and the stigma and the criminalization,
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it's been spreading. It's spread to vaccines, it's spreading to
trans healthcare. It's just it's just I feel like I've
been watching this black hole just grow and grow and
grow over the years and just take away our access
to these to these really basic medical things. And yeah,
like I just see, like we let it happen with
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abortion and then now all of a sudden, now we
can't take tail and all during pregnancy because it caused autism. Yep,
there's so much to say about the eugenics and autism
(19:58):
aspect of this.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
So much to say more than like we can say
right now.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Don't worry. There will be another episode of this show
about yeah, with some doctors next week probably.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
It's like focusing right now on like pregnancy and policing
pregnant bodies and tailanol and pain management and what's real
the fact that TAILANL is safe to take while pregnant
and doesn't cause autism.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
You know, it's really dwelling on that.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
But like there is a lot to say, There's a
lot to say about the implications of this, where like
where this came from in our society and where it's going.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And it's all really horrifying.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, it's it's it's exceptionally bleak. But I do think
and this is I think a theme we're going to
be returning to a lot in the coming days and weeks.
But like, the only silver lining for this is that
this ship is not popular. It's just not People hate it.
People hate the administration. They have been hating the station.
(21:00):
Every day it goes by, they hate it more, you know,
And this is part of the control strategy, right, part
of the reason why they're making these incredibly draconian moves
into like authoritarian moves into the domestic spheres, because it's
a way of suppressing descent, and they have to do that.
They have to suppress dessense, and they have to take
things from us, and they have to continue to try
(21:21):
to just beat everyone into submission because they can't do
it through actual persuasion. What they have is the violence
of the state, and they're going to try to keep
doing that. But the violence of the state only functions
insofar as people allow it to function, you know, And
this has always been sort of the secret of the
United States, which is that like a bunch of the
things that they're doing, or they're attacked as that cracked
(21:44):
downs that they're attempting to do, are effectively unenforceable because
people simply refuse to cooperate with them. And you know,
this is a field well, I mean, I don't know
until they just straight up ban tile and all. This
is a thing where I guess we're mostly just trying
to spread information. But like the things that they do
can be opposed, and when people oppose them on mass,
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they lose. And I don't know, I want to give
people a little tiny bit of hope.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
You want to be positive.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, So the deterioration of public health in the United
States is absolutely state violence.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Focusing on thaile andol and stigmatizing autism and people with
autism is like distracting from so many things that are
actual public health emergencies. So when they're talking about pregnancy,
they're talking about tilenel and autism. There are so much
more severe things going on in the United States right
now when it comes to both the health of pregnant
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people and infants. So there's the Black maternal mortality crisis,
which is so severe in so many states that is
just constantly, like abortion bands have made that even worse.
There's terrible infant mortality rates rising in states. So for example,
Mississippi declared infant dense and emergency because they halted that
(23:05):
CDC information data collection program. So Mississippi declared a public
health emergency from rising informortality. And there's also, I mean,
I believe that the abortion bands are a medical crisis
as well. And there's also huge obgyn deserts in this country,
Like we're seeing like the loss of obgyn health providers
(23:28):
where people can't access a obgyn for miles and miles
and miles and there's just entirely a lack of providers.
These are all very very serious public health emergencies, and
yet they're talking about autism.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah. Well, and also as such as they're talking about
is they're making all of these crises worse, like specifically
the opgyn crisis. It's like, yeah, I don't know, they've
been kicking a bunch of people off of their access
to of their access to government insurance, and like what
does that do? Oh wait, hold on, It just absolutely
and nice relates the income and revenue base of a
bunch of hospitals that already like weren't making much money
(24:04):
in rural areas, and so more of them close because
they lease their revenue sources, and suddenly all of these
crises just continue to get worse.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, so we have like this stigmatization of autism, parents
of autistic children, trans people, trans children, when like they're
focusing on this and they're vilifying and dog piling and
stigmatizing and and all of these things these groups. While
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there is this snowballing of crises, the damage already just
from Roe v. Wade being overturned in twenty twenty two,
Like it's like been three years and there's just been
this like cascading just ever increasing the public health disasters
from it, and yet we're we're stigmatizing vulnerable people.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, in the ways that we've been talking about, right.
Their ideology is about inflicting suffering on vulnerable people because
they think that it's good, and that's a thing that's
you know, i mean just obviously incompatible with public health
as a concept, which is you know, part of why
they're sort of dismantling it. Part of it is that
(25:14):
these people are all like selling their own weird anti
vaccine grift stuff that they've been selling for years and
years and years and years, and all of this has
just sort of come together into just the sort of
abyss where all everything that was the public health infrastructure
in this country, which was insufficient to begin with, i'd
just been disappearing more and more into.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, the erosion of our public health. You know, this
isn't like new, these decades of you know, this coming
into being where we are right now. But it's been
really horrible to watch as a healthcare worker, as somebody
who cares about just like everyone being able to get
like evidence based care, have access to medical providers, and
(26:00):
then also the ability to do whatever kind of health
care they need to be able to do on their
own as well, to just have this solid medical information.
And then also like there's the public education of it
all too, because already, like there's this attack on public education,
which autistic children need a lot of support in order
to thrive, and schools are you know, they could be
(26:21):
equipped to do that where I've seen wonderful programs and
wonderful education services that really set people up for success.
And this goes for like everyone obviously, like any child
is going to benefit from this, but it just it
makes everything so much worse, Like parents and families and
just autistic people just don't get enough support period, just
(26:41):
like trans people as well. And then we're all just
being thrown under the bus for the capitalist class and
the elites so they can continue to like you know,
hide their pedophilia rings and like the whole just the
fact that they're all like because like what you said
earlier about rfay, Yeah, these are all a bunch of
child molesters telling us that we're not strong or brave
(27:06):
enough to endure pain that we can easily treat with
the medical technology that we have ye, And I feel
like I normally, I feel like I used to not
talk like this. I used to not be like child
molesters in the government, Like I kind of feel like,
but I'm like, this is literally.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Where we are right now somehow.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So here I am, like, you know, talking about tile
and all being safe for pregnant people, tail and all
not causing autism, and then talking about the fact that
our government is wrung run by a bunch of pedophiles.
Not quite where I expected to be if you had
talked to me like eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Maybe it's really something.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's it's really wild to be talking about this right now.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And like we knew this was coming too, Like there's
been months of whispers where it's like, oh, yeah, they're
going to say til and all causes autism. So like this,
I knew this was coming somehow. I don't even know how.
It's just yeah, I feel like it's all very transparent,
like there's leagues and there's whatever. But I like, I
knew this was coming for months, and yet here we are.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Here we are, yeah, And I don't know, I think
that's as good for a place to end, unless you
have anything else you want to make sure you get.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
In I just want to say again that it's safe
to take tile and all during pregnancy and it doesn't
cause autism.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah. Absolutely, and tell everyone.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You know that and share good resources like ACOG acog
Physicians for Reproductive Health PRH I believe is their initials acronym.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
We will put links to stuff in the description of this.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, and also ask your doctor about medication that you
should take, whether you're pregnant or not. You know, it's
cool to ask your doctor stuff, like, just ask them questions.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, Yeah, that is what they are there for.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
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