November 26, 2025 • 31 mins
Gare investigates the alleged increase in Grindr activity at the 2024 Republican National Convention.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Cool zone media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Grinder. I hardly this is it could happen here where
today the it is gay flirting and or harassment, and
the here is Milwaukee, Wisconsin. During the twenty twenty four
Republican National Convention. I'm gare also known by my undercover
alias Garrison Davis, and I was lucky enough to be
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one of our on the ground RNZ correspondence. A few
weeks ago. We provided daily coverage of the GOP Coronation
festival based on our conversations with delegates, lobbyists, and think
tank ghoules, and reported on the general trends in rhetoric
used by popular speakers at the event. We'll have some
more in depth episodes about those topics in the weeks
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to come, using more of our recorded interviews we collected
at the convention. But on top of our regular coverage,
I also had a special assignment that I'm more or
less assigned to myself. On this show, we often talk
about right wing extremism and issues facing gay and trans people,
including the various ways conservatives and Christian nationalists are trying
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to make life harder for queer people, whether through legislation,
online harassment, and physical violence as These are two of
our most frequently covered topics. Being at the Republican National
Convention provided me with the perfect opportunity to investigate the
intersection between conservatism and homosexuality. For years, I've heard rumors
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and urban legends about a massive influx of Republicans flocking
to the gay hookup app Grinder to get laid during
the RNC. Whether they be twenty year old Republican twinks
from Miami or fifty three year old self hating, closeted
gay men from Idaho trapped in loveless marriages, curiosity has
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often gotten the better of me, and I needed to
know how many homosexual Republicans were actually logging onto Grinder
in case if you're unfamiliar, Grinder is technically a dating
app that serves the LGBTQ community, but in actuality, it
is a mediocre hookup app that mostly serves as a
way for strangers in their forties to completely unprompted send
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you unflattering pictures of their penis. Grinder was launched in
two thousand and nine and is arguably the largest and
most popular gay dating app, especially among men. Grinder has
only been around for two In person RNCs prior to
this point twenty twelve and twenty sixteen, since all convention
activities moved online during twenty twenty for the pandemic. So
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this July, for the first time in eight years, Republicans
from all around the country could gather in one city
and once their wives fell asleep, log on to Grinder
and this episode, I'm going to tell you about my
RNC Grinder experience. Before traveling to the city that was
about to be invaded by all of the weirdest Republicans
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in the country, I needed to do some prep to
help ensure safety and success in my investigative endeavor. I
hope you queers liked that terrible pun. Based on the
massive increase in violent anti trans rhetoric coming from the GOP,
I already knew that I would be dusting off my
old boy motor skills and going undercover as a cisgender male.
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Although my ability to pass as a straight mail is debatable,
I can at least easily pass as a not quite
straight male. My trans feminine fashion taste has been skewing
more mask lesbian in recent years, so clothing wasn't really
an issue. I packed up basically all my button up
collar shirts, three ties, two black suits, and a beige
London fog trench coat. Basically, the vibe I was going
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for was half young Republican, half Roman towel boy dressed
as a nineteen fifties FBI agent. I refer to this
as Dale Cooper Moting. I was unwilling to cut my
hair to match most of the young Republican frat boys,
so I settled on styling my wavy blonde locks like
Baron Trump meets Total Swinton. In Constantine. I was kind
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of Gabriel maxing for most of the convention, and though
most attendees were unable to pick up on my diikish undertones,
the one day I wasn't wearing a tie, I did
get she heard by the Secret Service when entering the
convention through a security checkpoint. They're going woke. So that
was my general look for the convention. I also completely
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remade my Grinder profile for the RNZ For simplicity's sake,
I got to emphasize my twinkish past and removed the
explicitly non binary transgender aspects of my profile, replacing some
of my more trans coded photos with pictures of my
light yagami and Dale Cooper cosplay. Perhaps next rn C
I can experiment with discovering how many of the RNC
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attendees are chasers. But for safety's at sake, I went
to more stealth, both online and in person at RNZ
related events. For my main profile picture, I chose a
pretty basic photo of me with disheveled hair, wearing a
light gray shirt and thin black tie, I looking just
frankly exhausted. I chose the simple yet elegant user name Twink,
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and for my bio wrote gen z in town for Convention,
which I thought was pretty funny and signals to people
that yes, I am here for the RNC, but leaves
the exact reason why still a bit mysterious. So this
was my bait. On my way to the airport, I
was already dressed for the part, as I suspected the
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flight from Atlanta to Milwaukee would be part of the
whole RNC experience. I arrived at the gate and the
vibe shift was immediate. Older white men with even whiter
hair wearing a mix of poorly tailored suits and country
club polo shirts fit for the driving range. They all
kind of looked like my Republican grandfather. The women, meanwhile,
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regardless of age, were all cause playing their favorite female
Fox and News anchor with bleached blonde hair. There were
a handful of delegates as well as Republican super fans
wearing Trump buttons and mega hats, just really excited to
be going to the convention, the way a NERD would
be excited to go to San Diego Comic Con. Others
at the gate were more subdued, perhaps not wanting to
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attract too much attention in the Atlanta airport, but I
could still overhear them getting into quiet small talk about
their RNC expectations and in hushed tones, asking others at
the gate if they were going to the convention. And
that's what everyone called it, not the Republican Convention, not
the GOP convention or the RNC the convention. As I
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was bording the plane, an older woman with straw like
blonde hair, sitting a few rows in front of me
waved me and asked, young man, are you going to
the convention? I gave my best yes, ma'am, took my seat,
and then heard her remark to her friend about how
happy she was that more young people are attending the convention.
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And I would suspect she would be quite disappointed to
learn why I was attending the convention and what I
was doing there, mainly trying to collect as much information
about these weird RNC Grinder Republicans as I can. And
you will hear more about those weird Grinder RNC Republicans
after the break. This episode is brought to you in
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the second half of this episode, as well as these
products and sponsors. Okay, back to the Grind. Most convention
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activities took place in the Peiser Forum, which it took
about four days to learn how to pronounce. This venue
is usually home to the NBA team, the Milwaukee Bucks,
and this is where I would do most of my
Grinder cruising so I could see other profiles within the
radius of the convention area. Every time I walked into
the Pfiser Forum, which was multiple times a day for
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four days in a row, I would find a little
corner or a place to sit and discreetly boot up
Grinder and refresh my feed to see what profiles were
in my proximity. Now, if you're unfamiliar with Grinder. One
of its more terrifying features is the proximity detector, telling
you what users are near you, whether that be five
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miles away or five feet away. Every night, when I
got back to the hotel after recording with Robert and Sophie,
I would once again check a Grinder to see if
any unlucky delegates were put up in the hotels by
the airport. The hotel we were staying at was also
home to the Idaho and North Dakota delegates, and though
I don't believe anyone from our hotel was on Grinder,
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save for maybe an anonymous profile or two, there definitely
were RNC attendees at some of the nearby hotels roughly
fifteen hundred feet away from my bed. The Grinder proximity
detector was quite useful to me and locating profiles act
around the footprint of the r and C, as well
as when sorting through all my messages back home to
confirm who attended the rn C from out of state.
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Because Milwaukee is about six hundred and fifty miles away
from Atlanta, if someone's distance marker was substantially different from that,
I could assume that they were in Milwaukee for the
r and C from out of state, even if I
wasn't able to confirm through any brief text exchange. I've
also done my best to follow up with certain profiles
to rule out possibilities of secondary traveling or other random
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reasons for why their distance markers might not line up exactly.
And I think they have it narrowed down pretty well. Okay,
you've been very patient, and now I think it's time
to read through the highlights from my grinder in box.
And I gotta say I think I started off pretty strong.
While attending the RNC kickoff party the night before the
convention officially started, I got one of the very first
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messages I received from a twenty one year old Republican
with the profile picture that's just a close up picture
of a dark suit with a dark blue shirt and
vgenta tie, already horrendous vibes. He asked me if I
was quote unquote with the GOP and I said I
was attending with friends, and then I got no further response.
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I saw this guy online throughout the convention, and then
after the convention was over, he moved like three hundred
miles away, so I'm pretty sure he was there for
the RNC. I got a message from someone who identified
himself as a local conservative quote but not a hardcore
Republican unquote, and he was excited the convention was in town,
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hopeful that he would quote meet my future husband unquote.
The first chaser I encountered with the bio looking for
some lady dick to feel in my ass, saw through
my sister gender disguise and messaged me cock question mark.
I got one other message from a chaser who was
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pretending to be Tea for Tea, who asked me if
I was in town for Kitsu Khan an Anima in
Green Bay. A nice local messaged me, quote hope you're
finding what you're looking for, smiley face, which was very
nice and just kind of amusing if you consider that
he thought I was just a gay Republican looking for
some other gay Republican. Another local with the name older
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for young sent me the message quote boomer, who will
talk politics with you or we can just fuck. I
asked him if the quote unquote talk politics pickup line
works very often, and he replied quote less often than
I would hope for On here zero unquote, he mentioned
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that he had noticed some convention attendees on the app
telling me that they have infiltrated Grinder. He then asked
me what exact hotel I was staying at. So that
was the end of that conversation. A minority of the
Milwaukee locals who messaged me identified themselves as conservatives and
were largely excited that the RNC was in town. They
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vicariously questioned me about how the convention was going, as
most were disappointed that they themselves cannot attend. One such
fellaw who described Trump's first RNC entrance as electric and
a very emotional moment for him and the entire crowd unquote,
would have liked to attend, but he was busy working
at the hospital because they needed quote extra staffing just
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in case unquote. Now, the worst profile picture I found
was an older guy wearing a baseball camp and one
of those half faced skull masks like Adam Offfen used
to wear. He said he was from Florida and claimed
to be in town not for the RNC but to
visit family, and mentioned that Vance had completely sold out
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his morals for the VP spot. This guy's politics were impenetrable.
Maybe this was just like your average Florida Independent. Very
baffling fella. A younger guy messaged me, asking you're a
Republican and I said not really putting it lightly, and
he never got back to me. I did find a
thirty one year old chaser named Greg who I do
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believe was attending the convention and his bio read quote Anon,
come drain me trans CD as crossdresser sissy fem to
the front of the line. I asked, you like trans
and he responded yes. We had no further conversation. I
did talk with two other people who happened to be
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covering the convention, including one guy who thought I was
with CNN because the Grinder proximity sensor put me near
the CNN area when I was actually using Grinder at
the Heritage Foundation party. And lastly, really the only guy
I saw who openly claims to be attending the RNC
in his public bio was a thirty two year old
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from Shreveport, Louisiana with the user name suck me Off
one Word. He described the convention as exhausting but awesome
and told me he was quote proud to support President
Trump unquote and called Trump's speech on the final day amazing.
A lot of the RNZ speakers, including Trump, talked about
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Corey Compretour, the man who was killed at the Trump
rally during the attempted assassination. So after mister suck me
Off talked about how awesome Trump's speech was, I just
replied to him, poor Corey, and he messaged me back
Corey who, and that he told me what exact hotel
he was staying at. Now, part of the danger of
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trying to use Grinder directly in the middle of the RNC,
even discreetly, is that even if I'm hunched over on
my phone, there is a non zero chance that some
passer by or person sitting right above me might catch
a glimpse of an unsolicited dickpic that fills my phone
screen as I try to check my messages. And this
is simply a non negotiable part of the Grinder experience.
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Whatever you do, grainy, unflattering, bizarrely angled photos of some balding,
forty three year old married man will appear in your inbox. Ordinarily,
I would check the profile first to see who might
be sending me a photo, to weed out the undesirable
prospects before even considering to open up a DM. Unfortunately,
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multiple factors prevented me from doing this. For one, this
was research, so I needed to collect the most amount
of data possible. But moreover, even if I still wanted
to vet for applicable profiles in my dms, this was
impossible without opening up each DM individually and clicking through
to their profile from the chatlog. Due to one of
the many glitches I experienced using Grinder at the RNC,
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about halfway through the week, the app started crashing pretty frequently.
But the main glitch I had to deal with, which
has since been fixed, is that I could not access
anyone's profile from the DM's page. I had to click
into each individual chat log to open up a user profile,
which meant I had to look at a lot more
unsolicited Dick pics before even being able to check anyone's profile.
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So there I was watching Ted Cruise's speech, sitting underneath
about fifty Republicans and right next to both of my bosses,
scrolling through an endless stream of dick pics to see
who was local and who was here for the R
and C, hoping that whatever Republican voter from Alabama wasn't
looking over my shoulder at the plethora of dimly lit hog,
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but I was far from the only one reporting issues
with the app during the r and C. Around midday
on Tuesday, the second day of the convention, over one
thousand users reported a Grinder outage in the Milwaukee area
on the website down Detector. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel wrote
on the final day of the r and C that
quote reports that the Grinder app crashing increased by more
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than ninety percent in the past forty eight hours across
the country unquote. The down detector heat map showed grinder
outages in Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York, as well
as a hot spot of outages in Milwaukee near the
end of the convention, indicating users were experience and some
issues with the app, possibly due to an increase in activity,
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and you will hear more about that activity after this
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We got to keep on grinding. We're almost done, but
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one more grind. During the influx of reports about the
Grinder app breaking during the RNC, a post from the
Twitter account for the Halfway Post went extremely viral, bolstering
claims of a massive increase in activity. Quote breaking, an
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executive of the gay dating app Grinder says, the Republican
National Convention is quote basically Grinder's super Bowl unquote. This
quote from a Grinder executive went super viral, prompting discussions
all over the Internet about five different articles and even
disgraced former New York Congressman George Sentos commented on the
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phenomenon content warning, gay Republican.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So Grinder executives are calling the R and C Convention
the Grinder super Bowl. Folks. Look, I'm openly gay, no
qualms about it. Proud conservative Republican. I met my husband
on Grinder and we've been together for six years going
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on seven, married for almost three. Let me tell you something.
Just come out the closet, boys, come on it's fun.
You can be gay and conservative, but look, Grinder's already
anyway based on the hits, and guess who's in town.
It's all you conservatives.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
By now, I certainly did observe a lot of blank
or anonymous profiles, at least more than I'm used to.
I also received messages containing variations of hey sexy from
at least five accounts that have since been deactivated. And
this does line up with a report from a Milwaukee
area Grinder user who spoke with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
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saying that he noticed a major bump in anonymous users. Quote.
On any given day, you'll go on there and see
a headless torso or a blank profile, said the source,
who did not want to be named. The Grinder user said,
on a normal day, you'll encounter maybe ten users with
no public profile. But Thursday, when he checked the app,
he said he stopped counting at fifty blank profile photos unquote. Now,
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we don't have any official data yet on Grinder usage
near the twenty twenty four R and C only the
down detector reports which our user submitted, but we do
at least have data from the last in person convention
in Cleveland, Ohio all the way back in twenty sixteen,
a Vice article by Candice Brian spoke with sources from
Grinder and wrote that quote, Grinder usage near the Quicken
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Loans Arena showed a sixty six percent increase during the RNC.
Other active destinations including Times Square, Capitol Hill, Disneyland, South Beach,
and Trump Tower showed no comparable increase in active users. Unquote.
Many of the local twinks and trans folks certainly were
concerned about possible RNC freaks hiding on the app. People
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would often first ask me if I was a Republican
or why I was in town before trying to hit
on me. One such twink told me, quote, I would
be surprised if you were a delegate or something, but
I had to check. As the week progressed, more locals
told me that they had found a handful of out
and proud patriots online, but really not many. In fact,
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multiple Milwaukee locals I chatted with on Grinder did claim
to notice an uptick in users, but mostly recognizable local
users who were online for the same reason I was
to see if there was an influx of closeted Republicans.
Someone told me quote for the record, it's like three
times busier here than normal. Everyone is out to see
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what the Republicans are up to, and the chasers have
come out of the woodwork unquote. Far from being the
app's super Bowl. According to Weiss, the twenty sixteen rnc's
sixty six percent bump in activity is less than one
half of the increase in Grinder activity that was seen
at the last in person DNC, an event which was
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also a whole day shorter i'lade from Wess. Quote. However,
from Sunday to Monday, the week of the Democratic National Convention,
there was an even higher one hundred and forty eight
percent increase in activity around the Wells Fargo Arena in Philadelphia. Quote.
It's also worth noting that of that sixty six percent
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increase in activity around the twenty sixteen r and C,
only about forty percent of those users were visiting Cleveland,
most were locals. Meanwhile, sixty percent of Grinder users active
near the DNC in Philadelphia were visiting the city. Oh
and that quote from a Grinder executive calling the RNZ
Grinder's a super Bowl, as well as George Sandos's other
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claim about Grinder purposely outing gay conservatives. Both of those
claims originate from Twitter satire accounts.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It is totally made up, pure fiction. It's fiction. It's fiction.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
We made it up. We made this one up.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
It's a made up tail.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's a total fabrication. It never happened.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's an urban legend that never happened. So no, the
RNC is not Grinder's a super Bowl. I got messages
from over one hundred and fifty different people. Over ninety
percent of the messages I received and profiles visible online
even while inside the Pfizer forum were from locals completely
unaffiliated with the rn Z and any boost activity that
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can be attributed to people this for the RNC is
a minuscule drop in the bucket compared to the proverbial
orgy festival of out of town gay Democrats who travel
to the DNC and like, if you think about this logically,
this shouldn't at all be surprising. The Republican Party has
spent the past two years screaming about how all drag
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queens are child groomers, and though this was the first
year the GOP has removed opposition to gay marriage from
their party platform, they have massively increased their opposition to
and attacks against trans people, and really any display of
a visible queerness, like come on, this is the Republican Party.
There's this kind of fucked up cultural conception that homophobic
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politicians must be so because they are secretly gay. And
while there is the occasional like Lindsey Graham or repressed
homosexual preacher, this is not the norm and all Republicans
being secretly gay is not the driving force of legislative homophobia.
It is an idea log drive largely in furtherance of
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hegemonic Christian nationalism, and now for people like Elon Musk
and more young Republicans of fascistic notion of reproductive futurism
built on fears that young people white people aren't having
enough white babies, which they partially attribute to society becoming
more accepting of gay and trans people, resulting in people
having less reproductive or heterosexual sex. Never mind the fact
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that queer and trans people oftentimes can and do have children,
which still doesn't seem to please these conservatives, as it
doesn't align with their traditionalist view of the family unit.
So No Grinder wasn't flooded with closeted Republicans because there
simply isn't that many closeted Republicans that are going to
be attending the RNC. And while there may not be
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as many Republicans as I thought there might be, I
do believe that I have the bump in activity, albeit
a smaller bump than rumored. Basically figured out based on
my anecdotal experience and the reports of a handf of
local Grinder users and journalists I talked with who were
online during the twenty twenty four rn C, and considering
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the twenty sixteen Grinder data, I can report that merely
a small minority of activity was due to ordinary RNZ attendees.
The majority of activity was from locals who either regularly
used Grinder or were specifically curious about who might be
online during the RNC. I observed two more groups that
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would contribute to any noticeable increase in activity. Not everyone
who attends the RNC are guests or delegates. A lot
of people work at the convention center or work tech,
and a sizeable chunk of people are like myself, researchers, pollsters,
or journalists who attend conventions like this for work. And lastly,
the final group that fills out the bump in Grinder activity,
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one that for some reason didn't really expect to see
upon arrival, but in retrospect makes total sense. Are cops
so many? There were so many cops online at the RNC,
just like delegates or reporters. They are coming to town
from all around the country. There was cops or state
troopers from Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, California, Indiana,
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and many more states, as well as US Capitol Police,
Secret Service, TSA, DHS, and FBI. They were all in
town as a part of the security detail. A few
of the guys that messaged me I can absolutely confirm
are one hundred percent police or some kind of military police.
A thirty three year old cop or military guy quote
looking for sexy bottoms with the tags jock, Military, discreete
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and weightlifting, as well as many pictures of him in
the gym. Said it in his bio that he was
quote really into slim, skinny toned, and muscular people. He
messaged me saying, Hey, now, I got a lot of
haze in my inbox, which is not unusual for Grinder.
You will pry mostly get hay as a message as
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well as just like, you know, a picture of someone's penis,
but between a penis and hey, those are probably the
two most received messages you will get on Grinder. There
was another guy with a username DL military who said
in his bio he was working security for the week
and that Grinder messages had completely broke for him and
to instead message him on Snapchat. The DL in DL
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military stands for down low. It's a tag that only
the worst people on Grinder will use, mainly like self
hating gay men who are closeted, and it's download because
they don't want to be like publicly seen being gay.
Just absolutely the worst. We do not fuck with DL,
both literally and figuratively. There were a bunch of other
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non locals who I would describe as cop types. I
can't one hundred percent say for sure that they are cops,
but they have like the look, you know, like the
look the cop look. I don't know. They could also
be like a bodyguard, a working private secure but one
of these cop looking guys message to me asking if
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I was a trans guy, which I always love to see.
It means I'm doing gender very well. And a few
other cop types sent relatively boring messages so yeah, a
lot of cops, which is not completely surprising considering the
fact that basically half the cops in the country were
at the Republican National Convention in some form or another.
A few final notes, Now, this didn't really make up
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a sizeable chunk of the Grinder population, but after saying
I was just covering the RNC, a couple people on Grinder,
just completely unprompted, told me that they were attending the
protests against the RNC. Please do not do this. That's
a horrible idea for multiple reasons. You gotta stop talking
about your political activities on dating apps, especially Grinder, especially
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at the RNC. Horrible idea. Do not do this. And
despite my lazy attempt at a young Republican disguised online profile,
a few too many people did recognize me from Twitter
or the pod, but they were very nice. They gave
me some recommendations for what gay bars to check out
after convention hours, and one person told me this interesting
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anecdote that I'd like to share. Quote, I don't think
Trump is going to win. I can missed for Hillary
in twenty sixteen, and at least here it doesn't feel
the same. Unquote I thought That was a little interesting
tinbit that I received at probably round three am on grinder.
So there you go. Anyway, that was my RNC grinder experience.
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I'm sorry to report it is not the hotbed of
closeted Republicans that we mean it to be. It's mostly
local gaze, a few reporters and a few more cops.
I do not think I'll be reporting on the DNC grinder,
but I am curious to see if there is a
sizeable increase in activity as compared to the RNZ grinder,
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So I guess I will maybe posted by that on
Twitter at Hungry bow Tie if you want updates on that. Anyway,
Stay safe out there. Be careful if you're ever on grinder.
Please especially don't tell someone covering the RNC that you're
attending any protests. But in general, be careful on these
types of dating apps and I will see you on
the other side. Message from Quickie Grinder said you were
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super close yesterday. Wasn't stalking? I promise? Message from birthday
present emoji. I almost thought you were Josh Thomas. Message
from anonymous wait are you pro or anti Republican? I'm
not gonna lie. I mainly asked your politics because I
thought you were cute, but I didn't want to hit
on a Trumper message from older for young. Aren't all
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the delegates propositioning you? You're cute? Message from anonymous? Why
establish a totalitarian state if I can't breed? It's a
dictator message from suck me off. I'm down for anything. Lol?
Are you supporting? Ha ha?
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Grinder. I hardly this is it could happen here where
today the it is gay flirting and or harassment, and
the here is Milwaukee, Wisconsin. During the twenty twenty four
Republican National Convention. I'm gare also known by my undercover
alias Garrison Davis, and I was lucky enough to be
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one of our on the ground RNZ correspondence. A few
weeks ago. We provided daily coverage of the GOP Coronation
festival based on our conversations with delegates, lobbyists, and think
tank ghoules, and reported on the general trends in rhetoric
used by popular speakers at the event. We'll have some
more in depth episodes about those topics in the weeks
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to come, using more of our recorded interviews we collected
at the convention. But on top of our regular coverage,
I also had a special assignment that I'm more or
less assigned to myself. On this show, we often talk
about right wing extremism and issues facing gay and trans people,
including the various ways conservatives and Christian nationalists are trying
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to make life harder for queer people, whether through legislation,
online harassment, and physical violence as These are two of
our most frequently covered topics. Being at the Republican National
Convention provided me with the perfect opportunity to investigate the
intersection between conservatism and homosexuality. For years, I've heard rumors
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and urban legends about a massive influx of Republicans flocking
to the gay hookup app Grinder to get laid during
the RNC. Whether they be twenty year old Republican twinks
from Miami or fifty three year old self hating, closeted
gay men from Idaho trapped in loveless marriages, curiosity has
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often gotten the better of me, and I needed to
know how many homosexual Republicans were actually logging onto Grinder
in case if you're unfamiliar, Grinder is technically a dating
app that serves the LGBTQ community, but in actuality, it
is a mediocre hookup app that mostly serves as a
way for strangers in their forties to completely unprompted send
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you unflattering pictures of their penis. Grinder was launched in
two thousand and nine and is arguably the largest and
most popular gay dating app, especially among men. Grinder has
only been around for two In person RNCs prior to
this point twenty twelve and twenty sixteen, since all convention
activities moved online during twenty twenty for the pandemic. So
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this July, for the first time in eight years, Republicans
from all around the country could gather in one city
and once their wives fell asleep, log on to Grinder
and this episode, I'm going to tell you about my
RNC Grinder experience. Before traveling to the city that was
about to be invaded by all of the weirdest Republicans
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in the country, I needed to do some prep to
help ensure safety and success in my investigative endeavor. I
hope you queers liked that terrible pun. Based on the
massive increase in violent anti trans rhetoric coming from the GOP,
I already knew that I would be dusting off my
old boy motor skills and going undercover as a cisgender male.
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Although my ability to pass as a straight mail is debatable,
I can at least easily pass as a not quite
straight male. My trans feminine fashion taste has been skewing
more mask lesbian in recent years, so clothing wasn't really
an issue. I packed up basically all my button up
collar shirts, three ties, two black suits, and a beige
London fog trench coat. Basically, the vibe I was going
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for was half young Republican, half Roman towel boy dressed
as a nineteen fifties FBI agent. I refer to this
as Dale Cooper Moting. I was unwilling to cut my
hair to match most of the young Republican frat boys,
so I settled on styling my wavy blonde locks like
Baron Trump meets Total Swinton. In Constantine. I was kind
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of Gabriel maxing for most of the convention, and though
most attendees were unable to pick up on my diikish undertones,
the one day I wasn't wearing a tie, I did
get she heard by the Secret Service when entering the
convention through a security checkpoint. They're going woke. So that
was my general look for the convention. I also completely
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remade my Grinder profile for the RNZ For simplicity's sake,
I got to emphasize my twinkish past and removed the
explicitly non binary transgender aspects of my profile, replacing some
of my more trans coded photos with pictures of my
light yagami and Dale Cooper cosplay. Perhaps next rn C
I can experiment with discovering how many of the RNC
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attendees are chasers. But for safety's at sake, I went
to more stealth, both online and in person at RNZ
related events. For my main profile picture, I chose a
pretty basic photo of me with disheveled hair, wearing a
light gray shirt and thin black tie, I looking just
frankly exhausted. I chose the simple yet elegant user name Twink,
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and for my bio wrote gen z in town for Convention,
which I thought was pretty funny and signals to people
that yes, I am here for the RNC, but leaves
the exact reason why still a bit mysterious. So this
was my bait. On my way to the airport, I
was already dressed for the part, as I suspected the
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flight from Atlanta to Milwaukee would be part of the
whole RNC experience. I arrived at the gate and the
vibe shift was immediate. Older white men with even whiter
hair wearing a mix of poorly tailored suits and country
club polo shirts fit for the driving range. They all
kind of looked like my Republican grandfather. The women, meanwhile,
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regardless of age, were all cause playing their favorite female
Fox and News anchor with bleached blonde hair. There were
a handful of delegates as well as Republican super fans
wearing Trump buttons and mega hats, just really excited to
be going to the convention, the way a NERD would
be excited to go to San Diego Comic Con. Others
at the gate were more subdued, perhaps not wanting to
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attract too much attention in the Atlanta airport, but I
could still overhear them getting into quiet small talk about
their RNC expectations and in hushed tones, asking others at
the gate if they were going to the convention. And
that's what everyone called it, not the Republican Convention, not
the GOP convention or the RNC the convention. As I
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was bording the plane, an older woman with straw like
blonde hair, sitting a few rows in front of me
waved me and asked, young man, are you going to
the convention? I gave my best yes, ma'am, took my seat,
and then heard her remark to her friend about how
happy she was that more young people are attending the convention.
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And I would suspect she would be quite disappointed to
learn why I was attending the convention and what I
was doing there, mainly trying to collect as much information
about these weird RNC Grinder Republicans as I can. And
you will hear more about those weird Grinder RNC Republicans
after the break. This episode is brought to you in
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activities took place in the Peiser Forum, which it took
about four days to learn how to pronounce. This venue
is usually home to the NBA team, the Milwaukee Bucks,
and this is where I would do most of my
Grinder cruising so I could see other profiles within the
radius of the convention area. Every time I walked into
the Pfiser Forum, which was multiple times a day for
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four days in a row, I would find a little
corner or a place to sit and discreetly boot up
Grinder and refresh my feed to see what profiles were
in my proximity. Now, if you're unfamiliar with Grinder. One
of its more terrifying features is the proximity detector, telling
you what users are near you, whether that be five
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miles away or five feet away. Every night, when I
got back to the hotel after recording with Robert and Sophie,
I would once again check a Grinder to see if
any unlucky delegates were put up in the hotels by
the airport. The hotel we were staying at was also
home to the Idaho and North Dakota delegates, and though
I don't believe anyone from our hotel was on Grinder,
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save for maybe an anonymous profile or two, there definitely
were RNC attendees at some of the nearby hotels roughly
fifteen hundred feet away from my bed. The Grinder proximity
detector was quite useful to me and locating profiles act
around the footprint of the r and C, as well
as when sorting through all my messages back home to
confirm who attended the rn C from out of state.
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Because Milwaukee is about six hundred and fifty miles away
from Atlanta, if someone's distance marker was substantially different from that,
I could assume that they were in Milwaukee for the
r and C from out of state, even if I
wasn't able to confirm through any brief text exchange. I've
also done my best to follow up with certain profiles
to rule out possibilities of secondary traveling or other random
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reasons for why their distance markers might not line up exactly.
And I think they have it narrowed down pretty well. Okay,
you've been very patient, and now I think it's time
to read through the highlights from my grinder in box.
And I gotta say I think I started off pretty strong.
While attending the RNC kickoff party the night before the
convention officially started, I got one of the very first
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messages I received from a twenty one year old Republican
with the profile picture that's just a close up picture
of a dark suit with a dark blue shirt and
vgenta tie, already horrendous vibes. He asked me if I
was quote unquote with the GOP and I said I
was attending with friends, and then I got no further response.
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I saw this guy online throughout the convention, and then
after the convention was over, he moved like three hundred
miles away, so I'm pretty sure he was there for
the RNC. I got a message from someone who identified
himself as a local conservative quote but not a hardcore
Republican unquote, and he was excited the convention was in town,
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hopeful that he would quote meet my future husband unquote.
The first chaser I encountered with the bio looking for
some lady dick to feel in my ass, saw through
my sister gender disguise and messaged me cock question mark.
I got one other message from a chaser who was
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pretending to be Tea for Tea, who asked me if
I was in town for Kitsu Khan an Anima in
Green Bay. A nice local messaged me, quote hope you're
finding what you're looking for, smiley face, which was very
nice and just kind of amusing if you consider that
he thought I was just a gay Republican looking for
some other gay Republican. Another local with the name older
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for young sent me the message quote boomer, who will
talk politics with you or we can just fuck. I
asked him if the quote unquote talk politics pickup line
works very often, and he replied quote less often than
I would hope for On here zero unquote, he mentioned
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that he had noticed some convention attendees on the app
telling me that they have infiltrated Grinder. He then asked
me what exact hotel I was staying at. So that
was the end of that conversation. A minority of the
Milwaukee locals who messaged me identified themselves as conservatives and
were largely excited that the RNC was in town. They
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vicariously questioned me about how the convention was going, as
most were disappointed that they themselves cannot attend. One such
fellaw who described Trump's first RNC entrance as electric and
a very emotional moment for him and the entire crowd unquote,
would have liked to attend, but he was busy working
at the hospital because they needed quote extra staffing just
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in case unquote. Now, the worst profile picture I found
was an older guy wearing a baseball camp and one
of those half faced skull masks like Adam Offfen used
to wear. He said he was from Florida and claimed
to be in town not for the RNC but to
visit family, and mentioned that Vance had completely sold out
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his morals for the VP spot. This guy's politics were impenetrable.
Maybe this was just like your average Florida Independent. Very
baffling fella. A younger guy messaged me, asking you're a
Republican and I said not really putting it lightly, and
he never got back to me. I did find a
thirty one year old chaser named Greg who I do
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believe was attending the convention and his bio read quote Anon,
come drain me trans CD as crossdresser sissy fem to
the front of the line. I asked, you like trans
and he responded yes. We had no further conversation. I
did talk with two other people who happened to be
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covering the convention, including one guy who thought I was
with CNN because the Grinder proximity sensor put me near
the CNN area when I was actually using Grinder at
the Heritage Foundation party. And lastly, really the only guy
I saw who openly claims to be attending the RNC
in his public bio was a thirty two year old
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from Shreveport, Louisiana with the user name suck me Off
one Word. He described the convention as exhausting but awesome
and told me he was quote proud to support President
Trump unquote and called Trump's speech on the final day amazing.
A lot of the RNZ speakers, including Trump, talked about
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Corey Compretour, the man who was killed at the Trump
rally during the attempted assassination. So after mister suck me
Off talked about how awesome Trump's speech was, I just
replied to him, poor Corey, and he messaged me back
Corey who, and that he told me what exact hotel
he was staying at. Now, part of the danger of
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trying to use Grinder directly in the middle of the RNC,
even discreetly, is that even if I'm hunched over on
my phone, there is a non zero chance that some
passer by or person sitting right above me might catch
a glimpse of an unsolicited dickpic that fills my phone
screen as I try to check my messages. And this
is simply a non negotiable part of the Grinder experience.
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Whatever you do, grainy, unflattering, bizarrely angled photos of some balding,
forty three year old married man will appear in your inbox. Ordinarily,
I would check the profile first to see who might
be sending me a photo, to weed out the undesirable
prospects before even considering to open up a DM. Unfortunately,
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multiple factors prevented me from doing this. For one, this
was research, so I needed to collect the most amount
of data possible. But moreover, even if I still wanted
to vet for applicable profiles in my dms, this was
impossible without opening up each DM individually and clicking through
to their profile from the chatlog. Due to one of
the many glitches I experienced using Grinder at the RNC,
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about halfway through the week, the app started crashing pretty frequently.
But the main glitch I had to deal with, which
has since been fixed, is that I could not access
anyone's profile from the DM's page. I had to click
into each individual chat log to open up a user profile,
which meant I had to look at a lot more
unsolicited Dick pics before even being able to check anyone's profile.
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So there I was watching Ted Cruise's speech, sitting underneath
about fifty Republicans and right next to both of my bosses,
scrolling through an endless stream of dick pics to see
who was local and who was here for the R
and C, hoping that whatever Republican voter from Alabama wasn't
looking over my shoulder at the plethora of dimly lit hog,
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but I was far from the only one reporting issues
with the app during the r and C. Around midday
on Tuesday, the second day of the convention, over one
thousand users reported a Grinder outage in the Milwaukee area
on the website down Detector. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel wrote
on the final day of the r and C that
quote reports that the Grinder app crashing increased by more
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than ninety percent in the past forty eight hours across
the country unquote. The down detector heat map showed grinder
outages in Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York, as well
as a hot spot of outages in Milwaukee near the
end of the convention, indicating users were experience and some
issues with the app, possibly due to an increase in activity,
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and you will hear more about that activity after this
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We got to keep on grinding. We're almost done, but
we got to grind a little more. Just one more
grind bro I swear about addictors. One more grind broachs,
one more grind. During the influx of reports about the
Grinder app breaking during the RNC, a post from the
Twitter account for the Halfway Post went extremely viral, bolstering
claims of a massive increase in activity. Quote breaking, an
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executive of the gay dating app Grinder says, the Republican
National Convention is quote basically Grinder's super Bowl unquote. This
quote from a Grinder executive went super viral, prompting discussions
all over the Internet about five different articles and even
disgraced former New York Congressman George Sentos commented on the
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phenomenon content warning, gay Republican.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
So Grinder executives are calling the R and C Convention
the Grinder super Bowl. Folks. Look, I'm openly gay, no
qualms about it. Proud conservative Republican. I met my husband
on Grinder and we've been together for six years going
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on seven, married for almost three. Let me tell you something.
Just come out the closet, boys, come on it's fun.
You can be gay and conservative, but look, Grinder's already
anyway based on the hits, and guess who's in town.
It's all you conservatives.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
By now, I certainly did observe a lot of blank
or anonymous profiles, at least more than I'm used to.
I also received messages containing variations of hey sexy from
at least five accounts that have since been deactivated. And
this does line up with a report from a Milwaukee
area Grinder user who spoke with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
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saying that he noticed a major bump in anonymous users. Quote.
On any given day, you'll go on there and see
a headless torso or a blank profile, said the source,
who did not want to be named. The Grinder user said,
on a normal day, you'll encounter maybe ten users with
no public profile. But Thursday, when he checked the app,
he said he stopped counting at fifty blank profile photos unquote. Now,
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we don't have any official data yet on Grinder usage
near the twenty twenty four R and C only the
down detector reports which our user submitted, but we do
at least have data from the last in person convention
in Cleveland, Ohio all the way back in twenty sixteen,
a Vice article by Candice Brian spoke with sources from
Grinder and wrote that quote, Grinder usage near the Quicken
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Loans Arena showed a sixty six percent increase during the RNC.
Other active destinations including Times Square, Capitol Hill, Disneyland, South Beach,
and Trump Tower showed no comparable increase in active users. Unquote.
Many of the local twinks and trans folks certainly were
concerned about possible RNC freaks hiding on the app. People
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would often first ask me if I was a Republican
or why I was in town before trying to hit
on me. One such twink told me, quote, I would
be surprised if you were a delegate or something, but
I had to check. As the week progressed, more locals
told me that they had found a handful of out
and proud patriots online, but really not many. In fact,
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multiple Milwaukee locals I chatted with on Grinder did claim
to notice an uptick in users, but mostly recognizable local
users who were online for the same reason I was
to see if there was an influx of closeted Republicans.
Someone told me quote for the record, it's like three
times busier here than normal. Everyone is out to see
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what the Republicans are up to, and the chasers have
come out of the woodwork unquote. Far from being the
app's super Bowl. According to Weiss, the twenty sixteen rnc's
sixty six percent bump in activity is less than one
half of the increase in Grinder activity that was seen
at the last in person DNC, an event which was
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also a whole day shorter i'lade from Wess. Quote. However,
from Sunday to Monday, the week of the Democratic National Convention,
there was an even higher one hundred and forty eight
percent increase in activity around the Wells Fargo Arena in Philadelphia. Quote.
It's also worth noting that of that sixty six percent
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increase in activity around the twenty sixteen r and C,
only about forty percent of those users were visiting Cleveland,
most were locals. Meanwhile, sixty percent of Grinder users active
near the DNC in Philadelphia were visiting the city. Oh
and that quote from a Grinder executive calling the RNZ
Grinder's a super Bowl, as well as George Sandos's other
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claim about Grinder purposely outing gay conservatives. Both of those
claims originate from Twitter satire accounts.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
It is totally made up, pure fiction. It's fiction. It's fiction.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
We made it up. We made this one up.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
It's a made up tail.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's a total fabrication. It never happened.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's an urban legend that never happened. So no, the
RNC is not Grinder's a super Bowl. I got messages
from over one hundred and fifty different people. Over ninety
percent of the messages I received and profiles visible online
even while inside the Pfizer forum were from locals completely
unaffiliated with the rn Z and any boost activity that
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can be attributed to people this for the RNC is
a minuscule drop in the bucket compared to the proverbial
orgy festival of out of town gay Democrats who travel
to the DNC and like, if you think about this logically,
this shouldn't at all be surprising. The Republican Party has
spent the past two years screaming about how all drag
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queens are child groomers, and though this was the first
year the GOP has removed opposition to gay marriage from
their party platform, they have massively increased their opposition to
and attacks against trans people, and really any display of
a visible queerness, like come on, this is the Republican Party.
There's this kind of fucked up cultural conception that homophobic
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politicians must be so because they are secretly gay. And
while there is the occasional like Lindsey Graham or repressed
homosexual preacher, this is not the norm and all Republicans
being secretly gay is not the driving force of legislative homophobia.
It is an idea log drive largely in furtherance of
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hegemonic Christian nationalism, and now for people like Elon Musk
and more young Republicans of fascistic notion of reproductive futurism
built on fears that young people white people aren't having
enough white babies, which they partially attribute to society becoming
more accepting of gay and trans people, resulting in people
having less reproductive or heterosexual sex. Never mind the fact
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that queer and trans people oftentimes can and do have children,
which still doesn't seem to please these conservatives, as it
doesn't align with their traditionalist view of the family unit.
So No Grinder wasn't flooded with closeted Republicans because there
simply isn't that many closeted Republicans that are going to
be attending the RNC. And while there may not be
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as many Republicans as I thought there might be, I
do believe that I have the bump in activity, albeit
a smaller bump than rumored. Basically figured out based on
my anecdotal experience and the reports of a handf of
local Grinder users and journalists I talked with who were
online during the twenty twenty four rn C, and considering
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the twenty sixteen Grinder data, I can report that merely
a small minority of activity was due to ordinary RNZ attendees.
The majority of activity was from locals who either regularly
used Grinder or were specifically curious about who might be
online during the RNC. I observed two more groups that
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would contribute to any noticeable increase in activity. Not everyone
who attends the RNC are guests or delegates. A lot
of people work at the convention center or work tech,
and a sizeable chunk of people are like myself, researchers, pollsters,
or journalists who attend conventions like this for work. And lastly,
the final group that fills out the bump in Grinder activity,
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one that for some reason didn't really expect to see
upon arrival, but in retrospect makes total sense. Are cops
so many? There were so many cops online at the RNC,
just like delegates or reporters. They are coming to town
from all around the country. There was cops or state
troopers from Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, California, Indiana,
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and many more states, as well as US Capitol Police,
Secret Service, TSA, DHS, and FBI. They were all in
town as a part of the security detail. A few
of the guys that messaged me I can absolutely confirm
are one hundred percent police or some kind of military police.
A thirty three year old cop or military guy quote
looking for sexy bottoms with the tags jock, Military, discreete
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and weightlifting, as well as many pictures of him in
the gym. Said it in his bio that he was
quote really into slim, skinny toned, and muscular people. He
messaged me saying, Hey, now, I got a lot of
haze in my inbox, which is not unusual for Grinder.
You will pry mostly get hay as a message as
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well as just like, you know, a picture of someone's penis,
but between a penis and hey, those are probably the
two most received messages you will get on Grinder. There
was another guy with a username DL military who said
in his bio he was working security for the week
and that Grinder messages had completely broke for him and
to instead message him on Snapchat. The DL in DL
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military stands for down low. It's a tag that only
the worst people on Grinder will use, mainly like self
hating gay men who are closeted, and it's download because
they don't want to be like publicly seen being gay.
Just absolutely the worst. We do not fuck with DL,
both literally and figuratively. There were a bunch of other
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non locals who I would describe as cop types. I
can't one hundred percent say for sure that they are cops,
but they have like the look, you know, like the
look the cop look. I don't know. They could also
be like a bodyguard, a working private secure but one
of these cop looking guys message to me asking if
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I was a trans guy, which I always love to see.
It means I'm doing gender very well. And a few
other cop types sent relatively boring messages so yeah, a
lot of cops, which is not completely surprising considering the
fact that basically half the cops in the country were
at the Republican National Convention in some form or another.
A few final notes, Now, this didn't really make up
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a sizeable chunk of the Grinder population, but after saying
I was just covering the RNC, a couple people on Grinder,
just completely unprompted, told me that they were attending the
protests against the RNC. Please do not do this. That's
a horrible idea for multiple reasons. You gotta stop talking
about your political activities on dating apps, especially Grinder, especially
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at the RNC. Horrible idea. Do not do this. And
despite my lazy attempt at a young Republican disguised online profile,
a few too many people did recognize me from Twitter
or the pod, but they were very nice. They gave
me some recommendations for what gay bars to check out
after convention hours, and one person told me this interesting
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anecdote that I'd like to share. Quote, I don't think
Trump is going to win. I can missed for Hillary
in twenty sixteen, and at least here it doesn't feel
the same. Unquote I thought That was a little interesting
tinbit that I received at probably round three am on grinder.
So there you go. Anyway, that was my RNC grinder experience.
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I'm sorry to report it is not the hotbed of
closeted Republicans that we mean it to be. It's mostly
local gaze, a few reporters and a few more cops.
I do not think I'll be reporting on the DNC grinder,
but I am curious to see if there is a
sizeable increase in activity as compared to the RNZ grinder,
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So I guess I will maybe posted by that on
Twitter at Hungry bow Tie if you want updates on that. Anyway,
Stay safe out there. Be careful if you're ever on grinder.
Please especially don't tell someone covering the RNC that you're
attending any protests. But in general, be careful on these
types of dating apps and I will see you on
the other side. Message from Quickie Grinder said you were
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super close yesterday. Wasn't stalking? I promise? Message from birthday
present emoji. I almost thought you were Josh Thomas. Message
from anonymous wait are you pro or anti Republican? I'm
not gonna lie. I mainly asked your politics because I
thought you were cute, but I didn't want to hit
on a Trumper message from older for young. Aren't all
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the delegates propositioning you? You're cute? Message from anonymous? Why
establish a totalitarian state if I can't breed? It's a
dictator message from suck me off. I'm down for anything. Lol?
Are you supporting? Ha ha?
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.