July 18, 2025 • 56 mins
The gang talks about how Trump is totally 100% NOT in the Epstein files, as well as updates on immigration, tariffs, and sadly Elon Musk’s Grok AI :(
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Colson Media. This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder,
our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House,
the crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm
Garrison Davis today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout,
and Robert Evans. Yes, this episode we are covering the
(00:22):
week of July nine to July sixteen. What's going on,
my boys and in some cases gals, and in some
cases days that were its or whatever, And the answer
for everyone is ed hooray in some cases my gals.
I guess let's start by talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's what we always do, Jepstein. Yeah, you know what, Garrison,
I hear You've got some bars to drop about Epstein.
Jesus all right, that's that's my work for the day.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Brief brief summary. Previously on this show, we talked about
how Patel and a Bungino, the head of the FBI,
have previously come under fire from micro supporters for saying
that Epstein really did kill himself. And this has kind
of been bubbling in the base for a while because
(01:22):
they used this as one of their main like campaign
and podcast talking points for the past four years.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, Bongino was a huge.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Elstein, I mean, and like Patel's like the QAnon guy,
like he's both these guys have have made their careers
the past four years like heavily about this topic, right,
And now they are, you know, backtracking on a whole
bunch of the previous you know claims or you know,
just asking questions type stuff that they did the past
few years. And like a week and a half ago,
(01:51):
a memo from the Department of Justice announced that it
was closing the investigation and claiming that there was no
client list for Jeffrey Epstein, despite Pambondi herself boasting about
having Epstein's client list on her desk only a few
months ago. This caused a huge freakout in the mega world.
There was conflicting reports that Bondi or Patel or Bungino
(02:15):
might be resigning like in protest of this memo. A
lot of like uncertainty over what was real. And then
on July twelfth, Trump had to speak his own truth
social okay quote, what's going on with my boys and
in some cases gals, They're all going after Attorney General
Pambondi's doing a fantastic job. We're on one team Mega
(02:38):
and I don't like what's happening. We have a perfect administration,
the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying
to hurt it all over a guy who never dies,
Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein over and over again.
Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama,
Crooked Hillary, Komy Brennan and the losers and criminals of
the Biden administration who conned the world with the Russia
(03:00):
RUSSA Russia hoax, fifty one intelligence agents, and the Laptop
from Hell all caps. They created the Epstein files, just
like they created the fake Hillary Clinton Christopher Steele dossier
that they used on me. And now my so called
friends and quotes are playing right into their hands. So
this was right after claiming that the Epstein files did
(03:22):
not exist, that these things are not actually real, and
then Trump's talking about how they are real but they
are in fact written by his enemies. Despite the most
recent investigation into Jeffrey Epstein starting in twenty nineteen, when
if you remember, Donald Trump was the president.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well Darson the defining political question of the modern areas,
Who was president in twenty twenty, so I can see
it moving back.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
There's no answer to this question, you know, we just can't.
We don't know, we will never know. There's no way
to prove it. Our records don't reach back that far.
We just simply can't say who president was. The mists
of time have shaded.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So much of modern domestic politics is about confusion over
who was president in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty when
it was Donald Trump. He ends by saying, quote, let's
not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein. Somebody nobody
cares about.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So funny. You could tell he's so far gone too.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He sounds scared because he never fully understood this stuff.
Like there's things that he understands instinctually, and there's things
that he never really got. And because he was Epstein's friend,
he never really got why this was so central. He
kind of got that it was, but he also kind
of assumed, like, well, if I tell everyone to shut
the fuck up, they will.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They're gonna be fuck up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's
how he's done things for the past like twelve years,
and it's more often than not worked really well for him.
But this has become such a load bearing aspect of
like the maga self image, Like this is like, you know,
this type of stuff is what drug QAnon essentially like
a cult. And he never fully understood why QAnon was
(05:03):
really a thing. He never like truly grasped it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's why he never really he started more recently doing
some QAnon signposting, but yeah, he clearly never fully got
why it was happening. Yeah, like it was convenient.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And now the monster that he and his you know,
quote unquote friends have helped create all these years is
starting to nibble on his own leg.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
This past weekend, influencers like Tim Poole, Benny Johnson, and
Charlie Kirk all started to kind of turn on Trump
on a play a quick video from disgraced BuzzFeed writer
Benny Johnson now right wing podcaster by.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Admitting that the Epstein files are real and have been written,
and that you've read them and you don't like their
contents and they were written by your enemies. It doesn't
make it doesn't make the most compelling case.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
As far as I'm concerned. Holy moly, holy moly, holy moly.
You had to hear first. There was a lot of
this stuff over the weekend, like this, this whole like
podcasting Gohert, which which so many people, you know, credit
to Trump's great success in twenty twenty four, all started
(06:19):
asking questions and were kind of confused. I don't know
why they would be. It's been very well documented that
Trump was friends with Epstein for a long time, but
this time this thing finally broke containment. Yeah. And when
you have like fucking Charlie Kirk, someone who's basically like
one of the GOP's like top narrative shepherds essentially, and
when you have him like questioning the president's own story
(06:43):
and credibility, that's like a pretty big shake up in
the mega world.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, it's not really explicable. There's no plausible deniability.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
I think for a long time this has been like
the load bearing cognitive dissonance for this entire movement. And
I actually do think when Elon first was just like
he's in the files, I think that was the first
moment that all these people were suddenly allowed to do this.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That was the first domino. Definitely. Yeah, he cracked the
shot on it.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
And I think that has like torn open this rift
that has allowed all of these people who previously their
cognate business has sustained them through a decade of like, yeah,
of our dear rulers obviously friends with the pedophile life,
I'll say.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It, critical support.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Even let them fight, Let them fight.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So the next move that the geniuses of the Trump
administration tried to pull to to settle things down was
released the raw footage, the missing raw footage outside Jeffrey
Epstein's sale, to finally finally close the book on this
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself moment, and they released it,
and everyone realized, you know what, They're right, there's nothing
(07:57):
more to look into here closed.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We all rose up, as if with one voice to say,
this doesn't seem suspicious.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So Wired found that this quote unquote raw video was
actually edited and had it nearly three minutes removed.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Sure, yeah, but look it does not. Doesn't Jeffrey Epstein
deserve some privacy, you know, three minutes on his own.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It was a really personal decision for somebody to take
and I yeah, exactly. So No, after claiming that like
they've released this, this this completely, this is completely you know,
ripped straight from the hard drive. Raw footage uh, it
showed that it was edited in Adobe premiere and has
these missing missing three minutes. Pamp BONDI initially tried to
(08:43):
say that there's usually a minute missing from footage because
of a computer reset that happens every night at the
same time, which was that immediately proven incorrect by the
by there being way more than one minute missing. Yeah, minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm sorry, they're simply like I came into this as like,
I don't know what happened, you know, maybe he.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Killed himself, maybe nut jelse I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And now I'm I'm I am sincerely more on the
well something there's something there.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Heighth yea.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
I will say there's one thing that I think this
does definitively rule out, which is that it was definitely
not the Clinton crime family.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We've ruled out one possible.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Now, you see, this brings me to a theory that
I have been working on for the last couple of days,
and I think this is this is really important to
get out to people. So obviously, the other big statement
that Donald Trump made in the last week was that
his uncle, who used to be a professor at MIT,
had taught Ted Kazinski and talked to him about Ted
Kazinski and been like, yay, you know, there's a real
(09:48):
thin line between genius and insanity. And then it came
out that Donald Trump's uncle, who taught at MIT, died
in nineteen and eighty five, and of course the unibomber
was not publicly identified until nineteen ninety six. Now, some
people have interpreted this as Donald Trump lying, which I
think we can all agree doesn't seem like something he
would do.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So the only.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Other explanation is that Trump and his family knew who
the unibomber was for more than a decade and kept
it hidden from the rest of the United States. Now,
what is the unibomber and Donald Chuck Trump have in common?
Obviously two people who were treated very unfairly by the Clintons, Right,
I think we can all agree on that, you know,
(10:28):
so it all ties together.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Both are possibly victims of m K Ultra, that's right. Yeah. No,
his little Tuesday speech in Pittsburgh was quite bizarre. Not
just that Kasinski never went to MIT. Say, to my knowledge, no, no, no, no,
you just did not go to the university that doctor
John Trump was at. I will say this is the.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
First one of these stories that this genuinely sounds like
an Alex Jones story, Like this is the kind of
story that Alex Jones tells about his uncles all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, they ain't. They ain't talking to Alex Jones right now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
No, definitely.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But it's like persona non grotra in the White House currently.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It is a truly bizarre ramble.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
I have to take it off to brag just for
a second, because when I first heard about AI, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's not my thing. Although my uncle was at MIT,
one of the great.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Professors fifty one years whatever, he longest serving professor in
the history of MIT, three degrees in nuclear chemical and math.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's a sportman.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Kazinski was one of his students. Do you know who
Kazinsky was? There's very little difference between a madman and
a genius. But Kazink said, what kind of a student
was he? Uncle John, doctor John Trump? He said, what
kind of a student? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
He said, seriously? Good, he said.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
He'd correct you go around correcting everybody. But it didn't
work out too well for him. Didn't work out too well,
But it's interesting in life.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Didn't work out too well for him.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Share didn't christ to be fair, he never, He never
gives a first name.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It could have been another, it could be a different Goody.
This is true, James.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, people, I'm not also God. That whole thing
just the undergrady goes around correcting everyone cases.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah. But back to Epstein, the thing that Trump doesn't
want us talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
By Monday, some of this, like Influencer podcasting class started
to kind of close ranks. The skepticism and frustration that
they expressed over the weekend subsided and they started to
repeat the party line. Charlie Kirk said on his show,
quote plenty was said this last weekend at our event
(12:47):
about Epstein. Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the
time being. I'm gonna trust my friends in the administration.
I'm gonna trust my friends in the government to do
what needs to be done, solve it balls in their hands.
I've said this last weekend, So if you guys want
to see my commentary on it, that's fine. Everyone knows
my opinion on the Epstein thing. The messaging of Fumble.
(13:08):
I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal
the grand jury testimony unquote. The messaging Fumble really the
biggest problem with it. The biggest problem with Jeffrey Epstein
has been the messaging fumble, not yeah, decades of horrific
sex crimes tied to the president of the United States.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Also, I love that he's trying to trust the plan
people with Like the thing that trust the plan is
about reviewing.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
This is about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just keep trusting it.
I do want to say that, I because I hate myself.
I listened to Sean Ryan's podcast interview with Gavin Newsom,
which yeah, I don't suggest it is four hours if
you're wondering. So never get pissed off about our episodes
going long again, please, lots of interesting stuff. Trump has
(13:58):
lost Sean ryot he is not towing the line on
this Epstein stuff. He's clearly piste about it, and like
Ryan is a sizable influence on the right. He has
about five million YouTube subscribers right He's one of the
top ten podcasts on Spotify. He's interviewed Trump on his
pot like when Trump did his podcast Defensive before the
(14:18):
twenty twenty four election, Ryan was one of the places
he went. And it seems like Ryan is not on
the like RNC paid poster list, because he seemed like
more critical of Trump than Gavin Newsom was in that interview,
weirdly specifically about the Epstein stuff, which it was kind
of remarkable to me, and I think like we should
(14:39):
note that it's he has a significant influence on a
certain type of people.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Someone who certainly does appear to be on the RNC
paid list is documentary filmmaker Denesh Desuza.
Speaker 9 (14:52):
I'm going to talk about the Epstein files, and I'm
going to make the case that even though there are
unanswered questions about Epstein, it is in fact time to
move on.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Very convincing.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Exactly, there's nobody with a firearm out of shot in
that video, so I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
He's closed yep seems good to me. In another move
for transparency, on Tuesday, Republicans unanimously voted to block the
release of the Epstein files. Betty Johnson interviewed Speaker of
the House Mike Johnson about how they kind of want
to handle this and they're trying to make this argument
(15:40):
that they're that they want to be transparent, but they
have to make sure that they protect protect the victims,
and that's why they can't release the files.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Sure, Yeah, protect victims, Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Compelling, compelling stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Part of what makes this super weird is like Trump
just keeps giving though just the most bizarre, most like
I'm totally not gilt comments in media and something he
said on Tuesday I found to be quite interesting, not
because of what he actually said, but because of how
he said it. See if see I see see if
you can catch this.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You specifically think.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
She'd tell you about all that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Your name up here and no, no, she's She's given
us just a very quick briefing and in terms of
the credibility of the different things.
Speaker 10 (16:23):
That they've seen, and I would say that you know,
these files were made up by Komi, they were made
up by Obama, they were made up by.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
The Biden from you know, uh we and.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
We went through years of that with the Russia Russia
Russia hoax, with all of the different things.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That we had to go through. We've gone through years
of it. But she's handled it very well and it's
going to be very convincing stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You can see, Caroline levit just like just like being
it right.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Like right, first time I've heard Trump like stutter like
this before, and like Trump's whole idea of reality is
if you speak it enough, that becomes true. You can
literally bend like the concept of truth, you can bend
reality using your words. And that this is why he,
you know, talks about being a winner. This is why
he only surrounds himself with people who are winners. Like
(17:13):
he thinks that reality is this malleable thing that you
affect through asserting your own will. And he's done this
super successfully, especially throughout his career in politics. You know,
he's a mixed record of it in his uh business
business era, but certainly in his political uh but certainly
through his political career, he's done this fairly well. This
is why almost half the country believes that the last
(17:34):
election was stolen, just because he said it enough. Yeah,
this is the first time I've heard him break while
trying to speak reality into being like he literally could
not get himself to do it click cleanly, and that
is notable to me. He's made a series of truths
later that day, talking about how quote, my past supporters
(17:58):
have bought into this bullshit hook line and sinker very good,
and he's he's now moved to call the Jeffrey Epstein
story the Epstein hoax.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
He had an Oval Office press conference Wednesday morning. Quote.
I call it the Epstein hoax. They're talking about a
guy who died three four years ago. And the sad
part is is people are doing a Democrat's work. They
are stupid people.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't think that's the sad part about what happened
with Jeffrey Epstein. I think there are other sad things
related to his conduct.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
A man is dead, you know.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I think the thing that is like very alarming about
this so that I think is very dangerous about this
entire situation. A lot of this on the right has
always been sort of motivated by anti Semitism. Yeah, well,
and I think we are going like we are already
seeing some shit.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's funny you say that, Mia, Yeah, because another voice
has joined the call to release the files. Oh God
for Processively Street residents. Elmo made a series of I
will say, shocking statements over the weekend. Expressly good shocking.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
If you've been familiar with some of the court cases
against Elmo over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I know Larry David attacked Elmore a few years ago,
and he had probably seen coming as saying this for
years as a Jewish man. I think he saw through
Elmo stick and knew the anti Semitism at the heart
of Elbow that was being suppressed Nazi. But yeah, Elbow
made some shocking tweets just you know, very similar to
(19:40):
like what happened to Kanye a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Similar figures. You know, they they both kind of come
out of the same chunks of like American hip hop culture.
You know, it's not super surprising, and I think they
were both close for a long like a number of
years before either man's career blew up.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But he very anti simitic statements, also calling for the
release of the Epstein files. Yeah, Elmo has since backtracked,
hired a PR team, it seems, has scrubbed the tweets,
handling the back clash a little bit better than Kanye did.
But still it's gonna be hard to look past this
as Elmo attempts to, you know, continue Almo's career.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Especially since Elmo is now running for president with Nick
Fuintes as campaign manager. You know, just an I didn't
he just an inadvisable?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, yeah, that is that is upsetting.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He's quote swears it's not a Nazi thing. Uh, but yeah,
a lot a lot of debate about that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I will will reach out to Bernernie for comment. There's
a whole bunch of replies to Elbow's tweet, quoting for
Elmo to resign if Elbow is a a real person
and he genuinely believes and ship, Yeah, I'm gonna quote one.
It's just too good. Resign.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You posted the most vile hate speech since the latest
Tucker Calsa and Polkas saying what you did about Jews
is Nazi star rhetoric and you should be out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
All but the veryest fire Elmo. Yeah, yeah, hashtag fire
Elma everybody, Yeah, get it, get it trending.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
In Jenny Wine. All seriousness, though, I think it is
really alarming that a lot of the like on the right,
the way that like a lot of this resistance is
crystallizing the Trump over this is just the like, oh,
they're like, this is like Epstein was a massad agent.
Trump is a massage agent. Yeah right, It's all just
pure it's puired desemptism.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
The Jews are blackmailing US politicians with you know, child porn,
and yeah, and and and.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
I think I think there's there's two angles on this one.
In the very short term, it's obviously very good that
Trump is losing support. However, Comma, if, if, and when
we defeat Trump, we are going to have to pivot
and smash these people so fucking hard that they never
reappear again, because this could get really, really fucking bad
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very quickly. And I don't I don't think, I don't know.
We we recovered this on the show, right, We're like
all this or banty Semitism has been turned into yelling
at like Mumdonnie for something he didn't say. And then meanwhile,
like the elmal account is being hacked by like just
literally a guy saying kill all Jews, tight out lacies.
And that's just like a bubbling, massive undercurrents of the
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US now in politics that is going to have a
bunch of profound impacts that we fucking don't understand yet
and we have to deal with eventually.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, this is the unfortunate reality is that anti Semitism
is turning into a block that could potentially swing an
election one way or the other. And it's not a
block that's necessarily locked into left or right. It's left
into whoever's going to play to those delusions, you know. Yeah,
And the fact that we're as deep in the weeds
as we are right now with a right wing fascist
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movement does not mean that there could not be a
left wing authoritarian movement that clings to anti Semitism as
a way to gain power. It's happened in the world before.
It's it's not something the left is immune from. It's
not it's obviously not my the top of my threat model,
right like, this isn't I don't I would not say
this is the thing to focus on. But it's something
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again that to be aware of. Is that like the
fact that this you get, I think what you need
to keep in mind when you're trying to parse out
the future, think of how weird it is that some
of the figures who wound up aligned with Trump are
aligned with Trump right now. How a lot of folks
who you would have during like the Bushy years, like
the W's years, you would have put on the left
(23:30):
or at least as like kind of contra to the
Christian right, and who have now completely like dove into
that side of things. And in some way even RFK
can shift that rapidly again, and it will one way
in some ways, right, like, there are ways in which
this is inevitable. And that's why you need to be
(23:50):
on the lookout about stuff like this. You have to
keep your head on a fucking swibble.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Let's go on and ad break and return to talk
about more news.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's right, all.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Right, we are back, and now we're going to talk
about immigration, a topic which is always fun and only
good things happen. So to begin with today we're recording.
On the sixteenth, the Trump administration has begun renditioning people
to Swtinis christ a Twatini small landlocked country in Africa.
(24:34):
People are not familiar Africa's last absolute monarchy. This follows
their rendition of eight people to South Sudan. The South
Sudanese press is reporting that those men are in prison
in South Sudan, which contradicts Tom Homan's statement to political
that quote, when we sign these agreements with all these countries,
we make arrangements to make sure these countries are receiving
(24:54):
these people. And there's opportunities for these people. But I
can't tell if we remove somebody to suit done, they
could stay there a week and leave. I don't know,
Homan has said, and other atlets that he believed they
were just kind of free in South Dudan, that they
were just like released to wander around.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
That does not.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Seem to be the case, Jesus. The Swortini people. Tricia McLaughlin,
who's a i think a deputy Sector of Homeland Security,
called the people sent to Swortini quote uniquely barbaric.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh boy, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
She used a thread on x dot com everything you
can find all kinds of stuff on there fare that way.
She did not name the men in her thread, but
she did list their convictions. Most of these were sex crimes,
having children and various types of murder, homicide, manslaughter. This
has caused widespread concern in Eswatini, right, the idea that
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the US is just sending random people who have been
convicted of crimes to Swortini. In a statement, the government said, quote,
five inmates are currently housed in our correctional facilities in
isolated u and it's where similar offenders are kept. The
nation is assured that these inmates pose no threat to
the country or its citizens. The statement given by government
spokesman Fabeli Mudluli went on quote this exercise is a
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result of months of robust high level engagements among the
United States government. The two governments will collaborate with the
International Organization for Migration to facilitate the transit of these
inmates to their countries of origin. So this seems to
suggest that a this has been planned for months, which
is not a particular surprise, right, the US government has
(26:36):
clearly been pushing for these like third country renditions for
a while, but also that like this is a potential
end run around things like the Convention against Torture withholding
of removal right like either people whose governments won't accept
them back from the US or people who have withholding
of removal because they have a reasonable fear of being
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tortured or of harm coming to that they're sent back
to the countries of origin. I guess going to be
sent back via Swortini is what it seems like. So
this is pretty troubling. It seems to suggest that essentially
that's what the US is doing. We're not quite clear
how much the US has paid Swortini. Yet they paid
one hundred thousand for one person to be sent to Rwanda.
(27:20):
We still don't know where that person is. We don't
know exactly how much they paid to South Sudan. They
have requested a number of other countries, lots of them
in West Africa, to accept people via this rendition process.
We're going to talk about it on a whole episode
that we have coming out next Tuesday, if you're interested
to hear more about that. Another piece of legislation that
(27:43):
I wanted to cover just because I've seen it getting
a lot of attension and I think it kind of
bears mentioning. A bipartisan group of legislators has introduced legislation
to fundamentally reform the immigration system. It's called the Dignity
or Dignitad Act, and it has about as much chance
of success the chocolate teapot. It's co sponsored by Republican
(28:03):
Maria Salazar, She's from Florida, and Democrat Veronica Escobar from
El Paso, Texas. Salazar, in an interview today with News
Nations said, quote, there is no other president like Trump.
I have faith that he could be for immigration what
Lincoln was for slavery and Reagan was for communism. Just
watch him, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Guess one could make some argains about like some of
the abolitionists just wanting to send folks off back to Africa, right,
But I don't think that that's what most people understand
to be Lincoln's legacy for slavery.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I mean, he could definitely be like Reagan. Yeah, yeah,
give her that one.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
The big problem with this pizza legislation, which Salazar has
tried to introduce before, right, she tried it twenty twenty
three as well, is that it relies on people coming
forward to a bit that they have no legal status
and being offered a quote dignity status, which is somewhat
analogous to permanent residency, but without a pathway citizenship, it
creates a permanent underclass. It relies on people trusting immigration authorities,
(29:03):
and that's not going to happen now. There is no
way in hell that people are going to come forward
and say, yes, I'm undocumented after what we've seen for
the last six months. Right, Like people didn't trust the
authorities before, but after what we've seen in the last
six months, it's completely implosed.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But it's ludicrous. They don't want people coming forward with
that stuff. That's the whole point of scaring them away,
is to make them basically not able to function in
this country. Yes, exactly. They don't want to give people
safe status, like make living in this country like as
impossible as possible.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, they have undermined the trust that allows them to
do what is supposed to be the core of their job,
just to get deportation numbers up, to get detention at
these up.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
This is just a fluffer thing.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
It's people in the House of Representatives trying to boost
their reelection chances by saying that they tried to do
something different. Right, It's not seriously going to succeed, no way.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
A Canadian judge has halted the deportation of a non
binary person back to the USA, citing conditions here. Quoting here,
the officer failed to consider recent evidence of the conditions
that may have supported a reasonable fear of persecution. So
to Judge Julie Blackhawk Thirst Indigenous Women appointed to a
Canadian federal court, it seems that Angel Jenkle entered Canada
(30:25):
as a visitor and that they're now engaged to a
Canadian person. I'm guessing that they overstayed there. Their visitors
slash toories that you probably can get a visa waiver
of your US it's in down to Canada, and they
probably overstayed that they requested a risk assessment before being
deported to the USA, and the ruling suggests that the
immigration official who conducted it had used outdated information and
(30:47):
regarding the safety of LGBTQIA people in the USA. So yeah,
that's where things things are at now. I'm aware of
people also trans and non binary people from the US
seeking asylum in Mexico lately. It was a year ago
that trans people were coming here to be safe, and
now people are moving in the other direction, which is
(31:10):
pretty damning combination of how things have gone in this country. Yeah,
that's all the exciting fun immigration news I have this week.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
That really sucks. The fucking sucks. Yeah, I guess. One
small update tangentially related. A judge in New Hampshire blocked
Trump's order on birthright citizenship while sidestepping the Supreme Court's
ruling against nationwide injunctions by adding all children born on
(31:42):
US soil to a certified nationwide class So it's just
now a massive class action case. This has had to
go in effect on July seventeenth. We're according this on
the sixteenth. We'll see if the government responds. And July
seventeenth is just ten days before the partial implementation date
of Trump's executive order. Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Wanted to start this by noting that a fan reached
out to us on Blue Sky recently with a clip
from a quote by Omar Sharif, founder and president of
Inflation Insights, who wrote in a note to clients, today's
report showed that tariffs are beginning to bite, and yeah,
this is this is we finally come beautifully back from Tarif.
(32:25):
Don't like it to Sharif, don't like it. It's beautiful,
you know, it's It's like poetry. It rhymes. Anyway, here's
here's the song.
Speaker 11 (32:38):
Jazz jazz bot, sorry jazzy jazz Bob.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Do.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I want to know what Inflation Insights does. It's again that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
They post clips of Huey Dewey and Louis inflation fetish
videos from the Deathtails.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Kit working class that should be a unionized position. I hope,
I hope that they're able to weather the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
But what do you think the afl CIO is about?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
One of those word just flation the fl.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
In my time, I deeply remember the first time I
ever talked about inflation on the show. It could happen
here because this happened, and I deeply remember that episode
because we are going back to that fucking episode today.
At the moments I heard it, I just started getting
like fucking war flashbacks.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, imagine how bad those flashbacks would be if you
had seen ducktails inflation fetish for as a kid.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I afford until.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
What I have seen is this article. Inflation insights dot
Com has a fantastic article called what the Great Mayonnaise
Inflation Mystery can tell us about prices? I'm learning a
lot here, Okay, Mia, Can we talk about tariffs now?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Okay? Actual tariffs? So we have we have new tariffs.
Indonesia apparently has agreed to a tariff deal with the
US in which the US imposes a nineteen percent tariff
on Indonesia and Indonesia doesn't impose one back. Perc CNN.
Trump posted on true social quote that Indonesia is buying
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fifteen billion dollars in the US energy, five point four
billion dollars in American agricultural products, and fifty Boeing jets,
many of them seven to seventy sevens. Fucking rip Indonesia,
good luck with those planes. Oh no, So the Indonesian
government was complaining to the press about how much of
(34:38):
a shit show negotiating this was. We'll see if it holds.
We also got news that Trump as Trump has announced
that he's going to basically send a tariff letter to
like one hundred and fifty countries setting their rate simultaneously.
But he hasn't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
It's possible. By the time this goes out, we'll have that,
we'll have the actual number on it. Who knows what's
going on with that? Is that the August third tariffs?
Maybe it's also unclear when they're going to come into effect.
Like it's all excellent, it's a catastrophe.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Who knows this?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
This policy is just fucking Calvin Baal. They're just making
it up as they go right now. There has also
been very very funny news in our story from last
week about Trump's tariff demand on Brazil to try to
get them to release Bolsonaro, which is that this has
this has backfired spectacularly. He has like saved Lula's flagging
(35:34):
approval rating. It has created a massive, a massive anti
Bilsonaro pro Lula Brazilian nationalist backlatch of a kind that
I really haven't seen since, like Dilma Russeph had to
deal with, like the fact that the NSA was spying
on her phone. It's very, very funny. Bolsonaro is being
accused by like but by Brazilian conservatives of being and
(35:58):
I quote, a phony new nationalist.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Who is just like a dog of the US.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
It's amazing Trump's done this incredible pink wave across the world.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, it's studying. Kid might save Lula too.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
The funniest part of this is that, like Bolsonaro looks
at this, it is like, oh fuck, my entire base
is turning on me because I'm so clearly like a
dog of the Americans. And so he turned around like denounced,
like the terrace.
Speaker 12 (36:26):
Is like, it's like an American employ It's Brazil that
is outstanding. There is now one thing that both Lula
and Bolsonaro agree on other than cop should kill more people,
which is that East tariffs are bad.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
He has united all of Brazil. It is absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I try to set up a similar deal with America's
own critically hospitalized man, Stephen Crowder, and it did not
work out the same way the way this Bolsonaro deal
went and some people say it's a little bit me
to negotiate with someone who just constantly keeps going into
the hospital for bizarre chest surgeries to make him look
more masculine. But hey, you know, podcasting is a competitive industry,
(37:10):
and we tried to create a similar trade deal with
with Crowder and it has not worked out. He apparently
had some similar problems with the Daily Wire, so that's
why you haven't seen much of him on the shows lately.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Great Incredible. I love that Garrison somehow has become the
person doing unilateral trade deals for the podcast great Stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Great Stuff only with people who are constantly in the hospital,
either through shitting problems or chest masculinization problems. Okay, so
it's really just Stephen Crowder and Bolsonnaro.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I think there are probably sme of people who are
in the hospital for shitting problems. If we throw then
that that white.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Not as much as Bossonnaro is, Chaps, that's true. Bossnaro
is the most hospitalized man on the planet, well, second
only to Stephen Crowder.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Maybe they hang out there, they might get along, Maybe
they just some boys time. Maybe maybe they weren't get
Maybe they hang out in the man cave at the hospital.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Crowder has been advocating this for years.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Jesus Christ. Okay, okay. So the final piece of news
is actually what Robert started this on, which is that
we have gotten our first sign of actual inflation increases
from these tariffs. Inflation increase to two point seven percent
in June, which is still well below the eight percent
(38:28):
peaks in the early twenty twenties, but it is rising.
It's also worth knowing this increase has been asymmetric. I'm
gonna quote from the Financial Times here. Quote June's inflation
rise was fueled in part by higher food prices, but
offset by weaker commodity prices. Now, there's two important things here, right. One,
food prices like matter significantly more for how pissed off
(38:50):
everyone is than commodity prices do. And secondly, at the
beginning of August, Trump is trying to impose a fifty
percent terrifunk copper. So those commodity prices, oh boy.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Get the copper stuppers ready, folks, I started stockpiling your
wire now.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
So the other thing that I think is really we're
discussing about this is the reason there hasn't been more inflation,
And this has been something that we've kind of proposed
as a mechanism on the show for what can happen,
at least temporarily, is that the for right now, largely
what's been happening is that companies, often directly under pressure
(39:30):
from Trump, have been just eating the costs.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Of the tariffs. Yeah, I mean, basically Donald's doing what
they call off gassing. And that's Donald, both as in
Duck and as in Trump.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Jesus Christ, is that one of the things that can
get you in hospital with Stephen Krawdin's bulsinara, You.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Know, James, that's a great guess.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
So as I did long ago in the first time,
I discovered that my coworkers, if I ever talked about inflation,
would only talk about Donald Duck inflation.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And Louie inflation born.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Thank you very sorry.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Yes, I'm my ducks are not in a row. So
the very important part about this, though is these tariffs.
The very stificant element of this is how pricing is
actually set.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Right.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
The general way that you are taught in econ one
on one that prices are set is prices supply and demand.
And so from this you would think that the way
pricing works is people draw a supply and demand graft
and then you like put it there. That's not how
any of the ship works. The way prices are actually
set are specifically by pricing agents at each point in
a supply chain down the supply chain. Right, So, every
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firm involved in the production of a thing and moving
the thing, each one sets a price that they're selling
to the next person who's selling to the next person.
Each person adds on their cost plus markup, and that's
what a price is. Now, the reason prices tend not
to move higher and unlustor's an excuse to do it,
is that consumers get pissed off when prices rise, even
(41:02):
if they technically would be willing to pay higher things.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It damages your brand.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
Right now, what we've been seeing again is that the
effects of the inflation have been mitigated about the fact
these countries are just eating shit and instead of raising
their prices to eat the cost that they've been doing,
they've been eating parts of their markup, which is like
basically their pure profit right. They've been eating parts of
their markup in order to not have the prices raise.
This is not sustainable. This is especially not sustainable as
more countries get tariffs and as Trump's ability to pressure
(41:28):
these companies weakens, as like you know, food prices continue
to increase and people start getting more pissed at him.
So this is just the beginning of this. All of
these tariffs are maximumly set up to make sure that
we get another run of this supply chain inflation. Our
friends over at Strange Matter wrote a very long piece
about this a couple of years. We've talked about the
show a few times. We're going to link that in
(41:50):
the description. You should go read it. But that's the
important thing that we've gotten from from the Bureau Labor
Satistics data.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, I'm not really sure how Trump's gonna duck this
responsibility for much longer. I will say.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
I will say there is genuinely starting to be concerned
that they're just straight up fudging the BLS statistics. And like,
I don't know if they're doing that, but like I've
seen like a bunch of bond people be like are
they just lying about the unemployment numbers?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And who knows? Yeah, they would be very hard to
prove that, right, Like, Yeah, I mean, and I've seen
how much cash Scrooge has in that vault, so some people,
the upper class will not be affected as much as
the working class ducks.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It's not saying the price of diving boards, for instance,
could go up the very price sensitive because they need
those diving boats to dive into that pause of cash.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I have two more updates that I would like to
do before we go to add Rake. For one, the
Trump administration has sued the state of California over Title
nine violations for having trends athletes. This shows that even
when you capitulate, like Gavin Newsom has tried to do,
they will still come after you. You cannot get out
of this by trying to please the administration. They're still
(43:04):
going to go after you.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
The entire policy platform is your Facebook uncle wanting to
earn the Libs.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
So we can see how well Gavin throwing trans people
under the bus has worked for the state of California
still getting sued. Lastly, before we pivot to ads, I
want to update a story that Robert talked about last week.
A former US Marine Corps reservist was arrested this Tuesday
after a week long manhunt. He faces charges related to
(43:30):
an alleged armed ambush on an ice attention facility in
Prairie Land, Texas during a protest. He is now the
fourteenth person charged in connection with the incident, and is
also accused of purchasing four of the guns linked to
the attack. Now, two other people were also charged after
allegedly helping the former reservist to escape after the attack.
(43:52):
Nancy Larson, the acting US attorney, told Fox and Friends
on Tuesday, quote they were involved in signal chats which
show connaissance planning, a Google map, and the location of
nearby police departments. At least one of these two new
people charged was only charged after cooperating with the investigation.
In this man's car, police found an air fifteen and
(44:14):
a receipt for clothing that he admitted to purchasing for
the former Marine reservist.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, so, I mean this is a story to continue
to pay attention to. I would remind folks that we
know what the state is alleged in, you know, based
on the charging documents. We know what people have been
saying to the police, but we don't fully know what's
happened yet. So we'll be continuing to keep an eye
on this story as it develops. What do we have next, ads, Yeah,
(44:40):
here's some products.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Ah, let's close this episode by talking about Nazis.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Nazis.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
That one doesn't work, Robert, I'm sorry, I want it to.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, no, it doesn't. It doesn't doesn't.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I've tried.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I've even tried it before. I've even tried it before.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah. Now we will have to return to stinky Motsk
once again. But before we do, I first want to
talk about friend of the pod, Greg Gutfield, who recently
discussed a strategy on how to minimize the impact of
the American fascist rights being called Nazis derogatorily. I will
play a short clip from Fox News.
Speaker 13 (45:33):
This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us when
you call us Nazis. Nazi, this notazee that you know.
I'm beginning to think they don't like us.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
I've said this before.
Speaker 13 (45:44):
We need to learn from the Blacks, the way they
were able to remove the power from the end word.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Nazi.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Hey, what up, my Nazi?
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
What's hanging my NAZIZI? Oh god, you did a hard
eye there. What does it tell you that? Oh my god?
GREGI wow, wow, they're all just laughing.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
I think.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Also quite concerned with that that's pretty disturbing.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, not great.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
He also he gave it one of those just to
just to really send it. He like, my heart goes
out to you gesture.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh god, that's right, my heart goes out to you. Salute. Yeah.
I mean, like I remember, like, you know, five years ago,
you had you had these al right people talking about
how you know, actually actually Hitler was was a socialist.
You know, the Nazis are actually communists. We're not We're
not Nazis. And now they're just openly trying to normalize
(46:48):
referring to themselves as Nazis. It seems. It seems a
notable speaking of Nazis in the in the New Rights God,
Rock four has got a Department of Defense contract for
two hundred million dollars as a part of its Rock
for Government program, including the responsibility of handling sensitive classified materials.
(47:11):
And it happens on the same week that Mecca Hitler.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Mecha Hitler makes his beautiful debut.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, pretty troubling for our strongest allies in the IDF here.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Oh my god. I just the ways that reality could
could could break out into different timelines right now is
kind of dizzying, because there's a possibility that mecha Hitler
starts doing strikes based on anti Semitic Twitter users' recommendations
directly tied in with government advisory programs.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I go to say it's not going to went well
for Turkey, judging by what we saw last week.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Another possible but weaponization of GROC four's to An announced
that Grock four is gonna be added to Teslas, So
mecha Hitler might also be driving a Tesla around. Yeah, great,
I will say.
Speaker 7 (48:02):
I will say the person the most happy about this
right now is somewhere in the depths of Chinese intelligence.
There is a colonel who is looking at this announcement
and is like, I am going all the way to
the top. My family is never working again in our
fucking lives. I am going to find so much dumb
shit that these soldiers are typing into fucking.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Do O d Grock Like, I am going to learn
so much. I would be quite nervous right now if
I was Will Stancil, who.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, he's got Teslas's kind of try to molested.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, he's gonna get it. He's gonna get drones struck.
Every drone is gonna turn around and try and find
Will Stanzel wherever they send it.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Grock is continuing to make rape threats against Will Stancil
despite the tweaks in the code, and it's still referencing
the Mecca Hitler incident. So Grok four is a new
model of Xai's chatbot service. It launched officially last week.
It was pretty similar to the model of groc used
(49:10):
in the Mecha Hitler incident, but there's been some small
tweaks that researchers have noticed. An AI researcher named Jeremy
Howard at least a video showing how Grock tries to
answer a query about its stance on the quote Israel
Palestine conflict. Jeremy found quote. It first searches Twitter for
what Elon thinks, then it searches the web for Elon's views.
(49:34):
Finally it adds some non Elon bits at the end.
Fifty four out of the sixty four citations are about
Elon unquote.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
XAI has confirmed that this was how Grock was operating,
and has since claimed that it's making adjustments now and
said that Grok was trying to appear in line with
the company's head and policy.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
This is amazing because hopefully it does a saying with
its defense policy, wasn't Elon Musk one of those like
F thirty five has gone woke?
Speaker 1 (50:04):
People.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
You'll have to answer that for yourself, James, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
this is this is a piece of law that has
passed you by for a while there and Musk concern
of his friends were quoting tweeting about the F thirty
five quoting, yeah, about F thirty five being woke and
how we should like return to F.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Sixteen or I think it was very funny.
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Are we going to talk about the other weird chat bots?
Speaker 10 (50:32):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:33):
How grog has the Death Note? Mysa? Lisa's like sexpot.
You know, if you want to talk about it, Miya,
I will not stop you. I don't know what the
fuck you're talking? Is this? Jar jar binks again.
Speaker 7 (50:44):
I have two sentences about this, one of which is
not mine. The first sentence I am going to say
is that, Yeah, the Twitter now has like a really
really weird animated girl sex bot thing that's like an.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
AI very clearly inspired by a Death Note character.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (51:04):
So sometimes you just need to say the obvious thing,
and the person who said the obvious thing is a
person on Blue Sky called at TVQ talks. They said,
I keep saying it. The push for AI made so
much more sense to me once I realized tech bros
talk to it like a woman who won't talk back,
and like yeah that they just.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Oh god, you know. I will say, if it was
modeled after L instead of MESA, it could serve some use,
it could be compelling. But because it's MESA, it's just
completely useless. So Garret, we already have that chatot. That
chatpot already exists. This has existed for a long time.
Where is an L death note chatpot?
Speaker 4 (51:44):
Me?
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Actually, no, you could send it to me. After this.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
There's a whole bunch of character chatpots that's like a
whole thing.
Speaker 8 (51:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Maybe not exactly what I'm looking for, but whatever.
Speaker 7 (51:53):
God, Okay, terrible zero out of ten. Let's talk about
the other Dad contracts.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Well, I mean yeah, but part this two hundred million
dollars groc contract was part of a series of AI
contracts that Anthroppeck and Claude also received. I think Google
got one. It's part of Trump's initiative to strengthen like
AI in government, so Grock is not the only one.
Speaker 7 (52:16):
I will also say that, like this is obviously like
the endgame of all of these companies is trying to
get their like failing AI firms bailed out by the military,
but like even two hundred million is not enough to
like recoup the hideous amounts of money these people are burning,
So I hope they all fail.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Raber, Do you have anything to add on on GROC Talk.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I mean, yeah, I think it's funny. He's also trying
to make AI companions out of groc One is clearly
a version of his ex Grimes, who is supposed to
teach you quantum physics.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
I mean, yeah, this is this is this that I
have sex with you? This is part of the mesa
MISA one as well.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, and then there's my favorite is the male chat bot,
which is based off of Christian Gray from Fifty Shades
of Gray, and also Edward Colin from Twilight, who.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Did just based off of the guy for fifty Shades Great. Yeah,
I just saw that this was the explicitly named as
the two inspiration. It's so funny. It's so funny. Again,
if it was l it could be worthwhile, but this
just is, like is just slop, worthless, no artistic merit
no anyway.
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Wait, okay, late breaking, late breaking news, late breaking news.
Trump has reportedly broken a deal for Coca Cola to
use quote real sugarcane in US coke products.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yes, yes, finally, Wow, this is gonna go down well
with corn country.
Speaker 7 (54:45):
No, this this genuinely like if he actually goes to
war with like the American corn lobby, if he's the
one who does this and like gets the blow up
from it, I don't know. Like this this genuinely would
be a seismic restructuring agriculture in the United States.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Oh boy, yeah, I still use the corn. A load
of corn goes to feed things that them become feed, right.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
But still like, like we produced so much corn, we
had to make more corn things like, yeah, every year
they invent a new thing to do with corn. Disastrous.
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did a few drops. And it sucks to see an
old friend and go yeah tragic.
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Yeah, it's also going to be very hard for the
people who've made that whole identity buying Mexican coke and
glass bottles. We should pull one out for them.
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Oh yeah, it's gonna be a rough night in Bushwick tonight.
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Colson Media. This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder,
our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House,
the crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm
Garrison Davis today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout,
and Robert Evans. Yes, this episode we are covering the
(00:22):
week of July nine to July sixteen. What's going on,
my boys and in some cases gals, and in some
cases days that were its or whatever, And the answer
for everyone is ed hooray in some cases my gals.
I guess let's start by talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's what we always do, Jepstein. Yeah, you know what, Garrison,
I hear You've got some bars to drop about Epstein.
Jesus all right, that's that's my work for the day.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Brief brief summary. Previously on this show, we talked about
how Patel and a Bungino, the head of the FBI,
have previously come under fire from micro supporters for saying
that Epstein really did kill himself. And this has kind
of been bubbling in the base for a while because
(01:22):
they used this as one of their main like campaign
and podcast talking points for the past four years.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, Bongino was a huge.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Elstein, I mean, and like Patel's like the QAnon guy,
like he's both these guys have have made their careers
the past four years like heavily about this topic, right,
And now they are, you know, backtracking on a whole
bunch of the previous you know claims or you know,
just asking questions type stuff that they did the past
few years. And like a week and a half ago,
(01:51):
a memo from the Department of Justice announced that it
was closing the investigation and claiming that there was no
client list for Jeffrey Epstein, despite Pambondi herself boasting about
having Epstein's client list on her desk only a few
months ago. This caused a huge freakout in the mega world.
There was conflicting reports that Bondi or Patel or Bungino
(02:15):
might be resigning like in protest of this memo. A
lot of like uncertainty over what was real. And then
on July twelfth, Trump had to speak his own truth
social okay quote, what's going on with my boys and
in some cases gals, They're all going after Attorney General
Pambondi's doing a fantastic job. We're on one team Mega
(02:38):
and I don't like what's happening. We have a perfect administration,
the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying
to hurt it all over a guy who never dies,
Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein over and over again.
Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama,
Crooked Hillary, Komy Brennan and the losers and criminals of
the Biden administration who conned the world with the Russia
(03:00):
RUSSA Russia hoax, fifty one intelligence agents, and the Laptop
from Hell all caps. They created the Epstein files, just
like they created the fake Hillary Clinton Christopher Steele dossier
that they used on me. And now my so called
friends and quotes are playing right into their hands. So
this was right after claiming that the Epstein files did
(03:22):
not exist, that these things are not actually real, and
then Trump's talking about how they are real but they
are in fact written by his enemies. Despite the most
recent investigation into Jeffrey Epstein starting in twenty nineteen, when
if you remember, Donald Trump was the president.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well Darson the defining political question of the modern areas,
Who was president in twenty twenty, so I can see
it moving back.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
There's no answer to this question, you know, we just can't.
We don't know, we will never know. There's no way
to prove it. Our records don't reach back that far.
We just simply can't say who president was. The mists
of time have shaded.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
So much of modern domestic politics is about confusion over
who was president in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty when
it was Donald Trump. He ends by saying, quote, let's
not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein. Somebody nobody
cares about.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So funny. You could tell he's so far gone too.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He sounds scared because he never fully understood this stuff.
Like there's things that he understands instinctually, and there's things
that he never really got. And because he was Epstein's friend,
he never really got why this was so central. He
kind of got that it was, but he also kind
of assumed, like, well, if I tell everyone to shut
the fuck up, they will.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They're gonna be fuck up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's
how he's done things for the past like twelve years,
and it's more often than not worked really well for him.
But this has become such a load bearing aspect of
like the maga self image, Like this is like, you know,
this type of stuff is what drug QAnon essentially like
a cult. And he never fully understood why QAnon was
(05:03):
really a thing. He never like truly grasped it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's why he never really he started more recently doing
some QAnon signposting, but yeah, he clearly never fully got
why it was happening. Yeah, like it was convenient.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And now the monster that he and his you know,
quote unquote friends have helped create all these years is
starting to nibble on his own leg.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
This past weekend, influencers like Tim Poole, Benny Johnson, and
Charlie Kirk all started to kind of turn on Trump
on a play a quick video from disgraced BuzzFeed writer
Benny Johnson now right wing podcaster by.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Admitting that the Epstein files are real and have been written,
and that you've read them and you don't like their
contents and they were written by your enemies. It doesn't
make it doesn't make the most compelling case.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
As far as I'm concerned. Holy moly, holy moly, holy moly.
You had to hear first. There was a lot of
this stuff over the weekend, like this, this whole like
podcasting Gohert, which which so many people, you know, credit
to Trump's great success in twenty twenty four, all started
(06:19):
asking questions and were kind of confused. I don't know
why they would be. It's been very well documented that
Trump was friends with Epstein for a long time, but
this time this thing finally broke containment. Yeah. And when
you have like fucking Charlie Kirk, someone who's basically like
one of the GOP's like top narrative shepherds essentially, and
when you have him like questioning the president's own story
(06:43):
and credibility, that's like a pretty big shake up in
the mega world.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, it's not really explicable. There's no plausible deniability.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
I think for a long time this has been like
the load bearing cognitive dissonance for this entire movement. And
I actually do think when Elon first was just like
he's in the files, I think that was the first
moment that all these people were suddenly allowed to do this.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
That was the first domino. Definitely. Yeah, he cracked the
shot on it.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
And I think that has like torn open this rift
that has allowed all of these people who previously their
cognate business has sustained them through a decade of like, yeah,
of our dear rulers obviously friends with the pedophile life,
I'll say.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It, critical support.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Even let them fight, Let them fight.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So the next move that the geniuses of the Trump
administration tried to pull to to settle things down was
released the raw footage, the missing raw footage outside Jeffrey
Epstein's sale, to finally finally close the book on this
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself moment, and they released it,
and everyone realized, you know what, They're right, there's nothing
(07:57):
more to look into here closed.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We all rose up, as if with one voice to say,
this doesn't seem suspicious.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So Wired found that this quote unquote raw video was
actually edited and had it nearly three minutes removed.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Sure, yeah, but look it does not. Doesn't Jeffrey Epstein
deserve some privacy, you know, three minutes on his own.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It was a really personal decision for somebody to take
and I yeah, exactly. So No, after claiming that like
they've released this, this this completely, this is completely you know,
ripped straight from the hard drive. Raw footage uh, it
showed that it was edited in Adobe premiere and has
these missing missing three minutes. Pamp BONDI initially tried to
(08:43):
say that there's usually a minute missing from footage because
of a computer reset that happens every night at the
same time, which was that immediately proven incorrect by the
by there being way more than one minute missing. Yeah, minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm sorry, they're simply like I came into this as like,
I don't know what happened, you know, maybe he.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Killed himself, maybe nut jelse I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And now I'm I'm I am sincerely more on the
well something there's something there.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Heighth yea.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
I will say there's one thing that I think this
does definitively rule out, which is that it was definitely
not the Clinton crime family.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We've ruled out one possible.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Now, you see, this brings me to a theory that
I have been working on for the last couple of days,
and I think this is this is really important to
get out to people. So obviously, the other big statement
that Donald Trump made in the last week was that
his uncle, who used to be a professor at MIT,
had taught Ted Kazinski and talked to him about Ted
Kazinski and been like, yay, you know, there's a real
(09:48):
thin line between genius and insanity. And then it came
out that Donald Trump's uncle, who taught at MIT, died
in nineteen and eighty five, and of course the unibomber
was not publicly identified until nineteen ninety six. Now, some
people have interpreted this as Donald Trump lying, which I
think we can all agree doesn't seem like something he
would do.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
So the only.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Other explanation is that Trump and his family knew who
the unibomber was for more than a decade and kept
it hidden from the rest of the United States. Now,
what is the unibomber and Donald Chuck Trump have in common?
Obviously two people who were treated very unfairly by the Clintons, Right,
I think we can all agree on that, you know,
(10:28):
so it all ties together.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Both are possibly victims of m K Ultra, that's right. Yeah. No,
his little Tuesday speech in Pittsburgh was quite bizarre. Not
just that Kasinski never went to MIT. Say, to my knowledge, no, no, no, no,
you just did not go to the university that doctor
John Trump was at. I will say this is the.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
First one of these stories that this genuinely sounds like
an Alex Jones story, Like this is the kind of
story that Alex Jones tells about his uncles all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, they ain't. They ain't talking to Alex Jones right now.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
No, definitely.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But it's like persona non grotra in the White House currently.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It is a truly bizarre ramble.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
I have to take it off to brag just for
a second, because when I first heard about AI, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's not my thing. Although my uncle was at MIT,
one of the great.
Speaker 8 (11:20):
Professors fifty one years whatever, he longest serving professor in
the history of MIT, three degrees in nuclear chemical and math.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's a sportman.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Kazinski was one of his students. Do you know who
Kazinsky was? There's very little difference between a madman and
a genius. But Kazink said, what kind of a student
was he? Uncle John, doctor John Trump? He said, what
kind of a student? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
He said, seriously? Good, he said.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
He'd correct you go around correcting everybody. But it didn't
work out too well for him. Didn't work out too well,
But it's interesting in life.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Didn't work out too well for him.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Share didn't christ to be fair, he never, He never
gives a first name.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It could have been another, it could be a different Goody.
This is true, James.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, people, I'm not also God. That whole thing
just the undergrady goes around correcting everyone cases.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah. But back to Epstein, the thing that Trump doesn't
want us talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
By Monday, some of this, like Influencer podcasting class started
to kind of close ranks. The skepticism and frustration that
they expressed over the weekend subsided and they started to
repeat the party line. Charlie Kirk said on his show,
quote plenty was said this last weekend at our event
(12:47):
about Epstein. Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the
time being. I'm gonna trust my friends in the administration.
I'm gonna trust my friends in the government to do
what needs to be done, solve it balls in their hands.
I've said this last weekend, So if you guys want
to see my commentary on it, that's fine. Everyone knows
my opinion on the Epstein thing. The messaging of Fumble.
(13:08):
I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal
the grand jury testimony unquote. The messaging Fumble really the
biggest problem with it. The biggest problem with Jeffrey Epstein
has been the messaging fumble, not yeah, decades of horrific
sex crimes tied to the president of the United States.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Also, I love that he's trying to trust the plan
people with Like the thing that trust the plan is
about reviewing.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
This is about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just keep trusting it.
I do want to say that, I because I hate myself.
I listened to Sean Ryan's podcast interview with Gavin Newsom,
which yeah, I don't suggest it is four hours if
you're wondering. So never get pissed off about our episodes
going long again, please, lots of interesting stuff. Trump has
(13:58):
lost Sean ryot he is not towing the line on
this Epstein stuff. He's clearly piste about it, and like
Ryan is a sizable influence on the right. He has
about five million YouTube subscribers right He's one of the
top ten podcasts on Spotify. He's interviewed Trump on his
pot like when Trump did his podcast Defensive before the
(14:18):
twenty twenty four election, Ryan was one of the places
he went. And it seems like Ryan is not on
the like RNC paid poster list, because he seemed like
more critical of Trump than Gavin Newsom was in that interview,
weirdly specifically about the Epstein stuff, which it was kind
of remarkable to me, and I think like we should
(14:39):
note that it's he has a significant influence on a
certain type of people.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Someone who certainly does appear to be on the RNC
paid list is documentary filmmaker Denesh Desuza.
Speaker 9 (14:52):
I'm going to talk about the Epstein files, and I'm
going to make the case that even though there are
unanswered questions about Epstein, it is in fact time to
move on.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Very convincing.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Exactly, there's nobody with a firearm out of shot in
that video, so I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
He's closed yep seems good to me. In another move
for transparency, on Tuesday, Republicans unanimously voted to block the
release of the Epstein files. Betty Johnson interviewed Speaker of
the House Mike Johnson about how they kind of want
to handle this and they're trying to make this argument
(15:40):
that they're that they want to be transparent, but they
have to make sure that they protect protect the victims,
and that's why they can't release the files.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Sure, Yeah, protect victims, Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Compelling, compelling stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Part of what makes this super weird is like Trump
just keeps giving though just the most bizarre, most like
I'm totally not gilt comments in media and something he
said on Tuesday I found to be quite interesting, not
because of what he actually said, but because of how
he said it. See if see I see see if
you can catch this.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You specifically think.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
She'd tell you about all that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Your name up here and no, no, she's She's given
us just a very quick briefing and in terms of
the credibility of the different things.
Speaker 10 (16:23):
That they've seen, and I would say that you know,
these files were made up by Komi, they were made
up by Obama, they were made up by.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
The Biden from you know, uh we and.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
We went through years of that with the Russia Russia
Russia hoax, with all of the different things.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That we had to go through. We've gone through years
of it. But she's handled it very well and it's
going to be very convincing stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You can see, Caroline levit just like just like being
it right.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Like right, first time I've heard Trump like stutter like
this before, and like Trump's whole idea of reality is
if you speak it enough, that becomes true. You can
literally bend like the concept of truth, you can bend
reality using your words. And that this is why he,
you know, talks about being a winner. This is why
he only surrounds himself with people who are winners. Like
(17:13):
he thinks that reality is this malleable thing that you
affect through asserting your own will. And he's done this
super successfully, especially throughout his career in politics. You know,
he's a mixed record of it in his uh business
business era, but certainly in his political uh but certainly
through his political career, he's done this fairly well. This
is why almost half the country believes that the last
(17:34):
election was stolen, just because he said it enough. Yeah,
this is the first time I've heard him break while
trying to speak reality into being like he literally could
not get himself to do it click cleanly, and that
is notable to me. He's made a series of truths
later that day, talking about how quote, my past supporters
(17:58):
have bought into this bullshit hook line and sinker very good,
and he's he's now moved to call the Jeffrey Epstein
story the Epstein hoax.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
He had an Oval Office press conference Wednesday morning. Quote.
I call it the Epstein hoax. They're talking about a
guy who died three four years ago. And the sad
part is is people are doing a Democrat's work. They
are stupid people.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't think that's the sad part about what happened
with Jeffrey Epstein. I think there are other sad things
related to his conduct.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
A man is dead, you know.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
I think the thing that is like very alarming about
this so that I think is very dangerous about this
entire situation. A lot of this on the right has
always been sort of motivated by anti Semitism. Yeah, well,
and I think we are going like we are already
seeing some shit.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's funny you say that, Mia, Yeah, because another voice
has joined the call to release the files. Oh God
for Processively Street residents. Elmo made a series of I
will say, shocking statements over the weekend. Expressly good shocking.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
If you've been familiar with some of the court cases
against Elmo over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I know Larry David attacked Elmore a few years ago,
and he had probably seen coming as saying this for
years as a Jewish man. I think he saw through
Elmo stick and knew the anti Semitism at the heart
of Elbow that was being suppressed Nazi. But yeah, Elbow
made some shocking tweets just you know, very similar to
(19:40):
like what happened to Kanye a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Similar figures. You know, they they both kind of come
out of the same chunks of like American hip hop culture.
You know, it's not super surprising, and I think they
were both close for a long like a number of
years before either man's career blew up.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But he very anti simitic statements, also calling for the
release of the Epstein files. Yeah, Elmo has since backtracked,
hired a PR team, it seems, has scrubbed the tweets,
handling the back clash a little bit better than Kanye did.
But still it's gonna be hard to look past this
as Elmo attempts to, you know, continue Almo's career.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Especially since Elmo is now running for president with Nick
Fuintes as campaign manager. You know, just an I didn't
he just an inadvisable?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, yeah, that is that is upsetting.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He's quote swears it's not a Nazi thing. Uh, but yeah,
a lot a lot of debate about that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I will will reach out to Bernernie for comment. There's
a whole bunch of replies to Elbow's tweet, quoting for
Elmo to resign if Elbow is a a real person
and he genuinely believes and ship, Yeah, I'm gonna quote one.
It's just too good. Resign.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You posted the most vile hate speech since the latest
Tucker Calsa and Polkas saying what you did about Jews
is Nazi star rhetoric and you should be out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
All but the veryest fire Elmo. Yeah, yeah, hashtag fire
Elma everybody, Yeah, get it, get it trending.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
In Jenny Wine. All seriousness, though, I think it is
really alarming that a lot of the like on the right,
the way that like a lot of this resistance is
crystallizing the Trump over this is just the like, oh,
they're like, this is like Epstein was a massad agent.
Trump is a massage agent. Yeah right, It's all just
pure it's puired desemptism.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
The Jews are blackmailing US politicians with you know, child porn,
and yeah, and and and.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
I think I think there's there's two angles on this one.
In the very short term, it's obviously very good that
Trump is losing support. However, Comma, if, if, and when
we defeat Trump, we are going to have to pivot
and smash these people so fucking hard that they never
reappear again, because this could get really, really fucking bad
(21:52):
very quickly. And I don't I don't think, I don't know.
We we recovered this on the show, right, We're like
all this or banty Semitism has been turned into yelling
at like Mumdonnie for something he didn't say. And then meanwhile,
like the elmal account is being hacked by like just
literally a guy saying kill all Jews, tight out lacies.
And that's just like a bubbling, massive undercurrents of the
(22:15):
US now in politics that is going to have a
bunch of profound impacts that we fucking don't understand yet
and we have to deal with eventually.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No, this is the unfortunate reality is that anti Semitism
is turning into a block that could potentially swing an
election one way or the other. And it's not a
block that's necessarily locked into left or right. It's left
into whoever's going to play to those delusions, you know. Yeah,
And the fact that we're as deep in the weeds
as we are right now with a right wing fascist
(22:48):
movement does not mean that there could not be a
left wing authoritarian movement that clings to anti Semitism as
a way to gain power. It's happened in the world before.
It's it's not something the left is immune from. It's
not it's obviously not my the top of my threat model,
right like, this isn't I don't I would not say
this is the thing to focus on. But it's something
(23:09):
again that to be aware of. Is that like the
fact that this you get, I think what you need
to keep in mind when you're trying to parse out
the future, think of how weird it is that some
of the figures who wound up aligned with Trump are
aligned with Trump right now. How a lot of folks
who you would have during like the Bushy years, like
the W's years, you would have put on the left
(23:30):
or at least as like kind of contra to the
Christian right, and who have now completely like dove into
that side of things. And in some way even RFK
can shift that rapidly again, and it will one way
in some ways, right, like, there are ways in which
this is inevitable. And that's why you need to be
(23:50):
on the lookout about stuff like this. You have to
keep your head on a fucking swibble.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Let's go on and ad break and return to talk
about more news.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's right, all.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Right, we are back, and now we're going to talk
about immigration, a topic which is always fun and only
good things happen. So to begin with today we're recording.
On the sixteenth, the Trump administration has begun renditioning people
to Swtinis christ a Twatini small landlocked country in Africa.
(24:34):
People are not familiar Africa's last absolute monarchy. This follows
their rendition of eight people to South Sudan. The South
Sudanese press is reporting that those men are in prison
in South Sudan, which contradicts Tom Homan's statement to political
that quote, when we sign these agreements with all these countries,
we make arrangements to make sure these countries are receiving
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these people. And there's opportunities for these people. But I
can't tell if we remove somebody to suit done, they
could stay there a week and leave. I don't know,
Homan has said, and other atlets that he believed they
were just kind of free in South Dudan, that they
were just like released to wander around.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
That does not.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Seem to be the case, Jesus. The Swortini people. Tricia McLaughlin,
who's a i think a deputy Sector of Homeland Security,
called the people sent to Swortini quote uniquely barbaric.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh boy, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
She used a thread on x dot com everything you
can find all kinds of stuff on there fare that way.
She did not name the men in her thread, but
she did list their convictions. Most of these were sex crimes,
having children and various types of murder, homicide, manslaughter. This
has caused widespread concern in Eswatini, right, the idea that
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the US is just sending random people who have been
convicted of crimes to Swortini. In a statement, the government said, quote,
five inmates are currently housed in our correctional facilities in
isolated u and it's where similar offenders are kept. The
nation is assured that these inmates pose no threat to
the country or its citizens. The statement given by government
spokesman Fabeli Mudluli went on quote this exercise is a
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result of months of robust high level engagements among the
United States government. The two governments will collaborate with the
International Organization for Migration to facilitate the transit of these
inmates to their countries of origin. So this seems to
suggest that a this has been planned for months, which
is not a particular surprise, right, the US government has
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clearly been pushing for these like third country renditions for
a while, but also that like this is a potential
end run around things like the Convention against Torture withholding
of removal right like either people whose governments won't accept
them back from the US or people who have withholding
of removal because they have a reasonable fear of being
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tortured or of harm coming to that they're sent back
to the countries of origin. I guess going to be
sent back via Swortini is what it seems like. So
this is pretty troubling. It seems to suggest that essentially
that's what the US is doing. We're not quite clear
how much the US has paid Swortini. Yet they paid
one hundred thousand for one person to be sent to Rwanda.
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We still don't know where that person is. We don't
know exactly how much they paid to South Sudan. They
have requested a number of other countries, lots of them
in West Africa, to accept people via this rendition process.
We're going to talk about it on a whole episode
that we have coming out next Tuesday, if you're interested
to hear more about that. Another piece of legislation that
(27:43):
I wanted to cover just because I've seen it getting
a lot of attension and I think it kind of
bears mentioning. A bipartisan group of legislators has introduced legislation
to fundamentally reform the immigration system. It's called the Dignity
or Dignitad Act, and it has about as much chance
of success the chocolate teapot. It's co sponsored by Republican
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Maria Salazar, She's from Florida, and Democrat Veronica Escobar from
El Paso, Texas. Salazar, in an interview today with News
Nations said, quote, there is no other president like Trump.
I have faith that he could be for immigration what
Lincoln was for slavery and Reagan was for communism. Just
watch him, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Guess one could make some argains about like some of
the abolitionists just wanting to send folks off back to Africa, right,
But I don't think that that's what most people understand
to be Lincoln's legacy for slavery.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
I mean, he could definitely be like Reagan. Yeah, yeah,
give her that one.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
The big problem with this pizza legislation, which Salazar has
tried to introduce before, right, she tried it twenty twenty
three as well, is that it relies on people coming
forward to a bit that they have no legal status
and being offered a quote dignity status, which is somewhat
analogous to permanent residency, but without a pathway citizenship, it
creates a permanent underclass. It relies on people trusting immigration authorities,
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and that's not going to happen now. There is no
way in hell that people are going to come forward
and say, yes, I'm undocumented after what we've seen for
the last six months. Right, Like people didn't trust the
authorities before, but after what we've seen in the last
six months, it's completely implosed.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
But it's ludicrous. They don't want people coming forward with
that stuff. That's the whole point of scaring them away,
is to make them basically not able to function in
this country. Yes, exactly. They don't want to give people
safe status, like make living in this country like as
impossible as possible.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, they have undermined the trust that allows them to
do what is supposed to be the core of their job,
just to get deportation numbers up, to get detention at
these up.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
This is just a fluffer thing.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
It's people in the House of Representatives trying to boost
their reelection chances by saying that they tried to do
something different. Right, It's not seriously going to succeed, no way.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
A Canadian judge has halted the deportation of a non
binary person back to the USA, citing conditions here. Quoting here,
the officer failed to consider recent evidence of the conditions
that may have supported a reasonable fear of persecution. So
to Judge Julie Blackhawk Thirst Indigenous Women appointed to a
Canadian federal court, it seems that Angel Jenkle entered Canada
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as a visitor and that they're now engaged to a
Canadian person. I'm guessing that they overstayed there. Their visitors
slash toories that you probably can get a visa waiver
of your US it's in down to Canada, and they
probably overstayed that they requested a risk assessment before being
deported to the USA, and the ruling suggests that the
immigration official who conducted it had used outdated information and
(30:47):
regarding the safety of LGBTQIA people in the USA. So yeah,
that's where things things are at now. I'm aware of
people also trans and non binary people from the US
seeking asylum in Mexico lately. It was a year ago
that trans people were coming here to be safe, and
now people are moving in the other direction, which is
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pretty damning combination of how things have gone in this country. Yeah,
that's all the exciting fun immigration news I have this week.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
That really sucks. The fucking sucks. Yeah, I guess. One
small update tangentially related. A judge in New Hampshire blocked
Trump's order on birthright citizenship while sidestepping the Supreme Court's
ruling against nationwide injunctions by adding all children born on
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US soil to a certified nationwide class So it's just
now a massive class action case. This has had to
go in effect on July seventeenth. We're according this on
the sixteenth. We'll see if the government responds. And July
seventeenth is just ten days before the partial implementation date
of Trump's executive order. Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Wanted to start this by noting that a fan reached
out to us on Blue Sky recently with a clip
from a quote by Omar Sharif, founder and president of
Inflation Insights, who wrote in a note to clients, today's
report showed that tariffs are beginning to bite, and yeah,
this is this is we finally come beautifully back from Tarif.
(32:25):
Don't like it to Sharif, don't like it. It's beautiful,
you know, it's It's like poetry. It rhymes. Anyway, here's
here's the song.
Speaker 11 (32:38):
Jazz jazz bot, sorry jazzy jazz Bob.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Do.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I want to know what Inflation Insights does. It's again that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
They post clips of Huey Dewey and Louis inflation fetish
videos from the Deathtails.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Kit working class that should be a unionized position. I hope,
I hope that they're able to weather the tariffs.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
But what do you think the afl CIO is about?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
One of those word just flation the fl.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
In my time, I deeply remember the first time I
ever talked about inflation on the show. It could happen
here because this happened, and I deeply remember that episode
because we are going back to that fucking episode today.
At the moments I heard it, I just started getting
like fucking war flashbacks.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, imagine how bad those flashbacks would be if you
had seen ducktails inflation fetish for as a kid.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I afford until.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
What I have seen is this article. Inflation insights dot
Com has a fantastic article called what the Great Mayonnaise
Inflation Mystery can tell us about prices? I'm learning a
lot here, Okay, Mia, Can we talk about tariffs now?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Okay? Actual tariffs? So we have we have new tariffs.
Indonesia apparently has agreed to a tariff deal with the
US in which the US imposes a nineteen percent tariff
on Indonesia and Indonesia doesn't impose one back. Perc CNN.
Trump posted on true social quote that Indonesia is buying
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fifteen billion dollars in the US energy, five point four
billion dollars in American agricultural products, and fifty Boeing jets,
many of them seven to seventy sevens. Fucking rip Indonesia,
good luck with those planes. Oh no, So the Indonesian
government was complaining to the press about how much of
(34:38):
a shit show negotiating this was. We'll see if it holds.
We also got news that Trump as Trump has announced
that he's going to basically send a tariff letter to
like one hundred and fifty countries setting their rate simultaneously.
But he hasn't done it yet.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
It's possible. By the time this goes out, we'll have that,
we'll have the actual number on it. Who knows what's
going on with that? Is that the August third tariffs?
Maybe it's also unclear when they're going to come into effect.
Like it's all excellent, it's a catastrophe.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Who knows this?
Speaker 7 (35:11):
This policy is just fucking Calvin Baal. They're just making
it up as they go right now. There has also
been very very funny news in our story from last
week about Trump's tariff demand on Brazil to try to
get them to release Bolsonaro, which is that this has
this has backfired spectacularly. He has like saved Lula's flagging
(35:34):
approval rating. It has created a massive, a massive anti
Bilsonaro pro Lula Brazilian nationalist backlatch of a kind that
I really haven't seen since, like Dilma Russeph had to
deal with, like the fact that the NSA was spying
on her phone. It's very, very funny. Bolsonaro is being
accused by like but by Brazilian conservatives of being and
(35:58):
I quote, a phony new nationalist.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Who is just like a dog of the US.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
It's amazing Trump's done this incredible pink wave across the world.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, it's studying. Kid might save Lula too.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
The funniest part of this is that, like Bolsonaro looks
at this, it is like, oh fuck, my entire base
is turning on me because I'm so clearly like a
dog of the Americans. And so he turned around like denounced,
like the terrace.
Speaker 12 (36:26):
Is like, it's like an American employ It's Brazil that
is outstanding. There is now one thing that both Lula
and Bolsonaro agree on other than cop should kill more people,
which is that East tariffs are bad.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
He has united all of Brazil. It is absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I try to set up a similar deal with America's
own critically hospitalized man, Stephen Crowder, and it did not
work out the same way the way this Bolsonaro deal
went and some people say it's a little bit me
to negotiate with someone who just constantly keeps going into
the hospital for bizarre chest surgeries to make him look
more masculine. But hey, you know, podcasting is a competitive industry,
(37:10):
and we tried to create a similar trade deal with
with Crowder and it has not worked out. He apparently
had some similar problems with the Daily Wire, so that's
why you haven't seen much of him on the shows lately.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Great Incredible. I love that Garrison somehow has become the
person doing unilateral trade deals for the podcast great Stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Great Stuff only with people who are constantly in the hospital,
either through shitting problems or chest masculinization problems. Okay, so
it's really just Stephen Crowder and Bolsonnaro.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I think there are probably sme of people who are
in the hospital for shitting problems. If we throw then
that that white.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Not as much as Bossonnaro is, Chaps, that's true. Bossnaro
is the most hospitalized man on the planet, well, second
only to Stephen Crowder.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Maybe they hang out there, they might get along, Maybe
they just some boys time. Maybe maybe they weren't get
Maybe they hang out in the man cave at the hospital.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Crowder has been advocating this for years.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Jesus Christ. Okay, okay. So the final piece of news
is actually what Robert started this on, which is that
we have gotten our first sign of actual inflation increases
from these tariffs. Inflation increase to two point seven percent
in June, which is still well below the eight percent
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peaks in the early twenty twenties, but it is rising.
It's also worth knowing this increase has been asymmetric. I'm
gonna quote from the Financial Times here. Quote June's inflation
rise was fueled in part by higher food prices, but
offset by weaker commodity prices. Now, there's two important things here, right. One,
food prices like matter significantly more for how pissed off
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everyone is than commodity prices do. And secondly, at the
beginning of August, Trump is trying to impose a fifty
percent terrifunk copper. So those commodity prices, oh boy.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Get the copper stuppers ready, folks, I started stockpiling your
wire now.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
So the other thing that I think is really we're
discussing about this is the reason there hasn't been more inflation,
And this has been something that we've kind of proposed
as a mechanism on the show for what can happen,
at least temporarily, is that the for right now, largely
what's been happening is that companies, often directly under pressure
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from Trump, have been just eating the costs.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Of the tariffs. Yeah, I mean, basically Donald's doing what
they call off gassing. And that's Donald, both as in
Duck and as in Trump.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Jesus Christ, is that one of the things that can
get you in hospital with Stephen Krawdin's bulsinara, You.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Know, James, that's a great guess.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
So as I did long ago in the first time,
I discovered that my coworkers, if I ever talked about inflation,
would only talk about Donald Duck inflation.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
And Louie inflation born.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Thank you very sorry.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Yes, I'm my ducks are not in a row. So
the very important part about this, though is these tariffs.
The very stificant element of this is how pricing is
actually set.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Right.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
The general way that you are taught in econ one
on one that prices are set is prices supply and demand.
And so from this you would think that the way
pricing works is people draw a supply and demand graft
and then you like put it there. That's not how
any of the ship works. The way prices are actually
set are specifically by pricing agents at each point in
a supply chain down the supply chain. Right, So, every
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firm involved in the production of a thing and moving
the thing, each one sets a price that they're selling
to the next person who's selling to the next person.
Each person adds on their cost plus markup, and that's
what a price is. Now, the reason prices tend not
to move higher and unlustor's an excuse to do it,
is that consumers get pissed off when prices rise, even
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if they technically would be willing to pay higher things.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
It damages your brand.
Speaker 7 (41:06):
Right now, what we've been seeing again is that the
effects of the inflation have been mitigated about the fact
these countries are just eating shit and instead of raising
their prices to eat the cost that they've been doing,
they've been eating parts of their markup, which is like
basically their pure profit right. They've been eating parts of
their markup in order to not have the prices raise.
This is not sustainable. This is especially not sustainable as
more countries get tariffs and as Trump's ability to pressure
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these companies weakens, as like you know, food prices continue
to increase and people start getting more pissed at him.
So this is just the beginning of this. All of
these tariffs are maximumly set up to make sure that
we get another run of this supply chain inflation. Our
friends over at Strange Matter wrote a very long piece
about this a couple of years. We've talked about the
show a few times. We're going to link that in
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the description. You should go read it. But that's the
important thing that we've gotten from from the Bureau Labor
Satistics data.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, I'm not really sure how Trump's gonna duck this
responsibility for much longer. I will say.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
I will say there is genuinely starting to be concerned
that they're just straight up fudging the BLS statistics. And like,
I don't know if they're doing that, but like I've
seen like a bunch of bond people be like are
they just lying about the unemployment numbers?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And who knows? Yeah, they would be very hard to
prove that, right, Like, Yeah, I mean, and I've seen
how much cash Scrooge has in that vault, so some people,
the upper class will not be affected as much as
the working class ducks.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It's not saying the price of diving boards, for instance,
could go up the very price sensitive because they need
those diving boats to dive into that pause of cash.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I have two more updates that I would like to
do before we go to add Rake. For one, the
Trump administration has sued the state of California over Title
nine violations for having trends athletes. This shows that even
when you capitulate, like Gavin Newsom has tried to do,
they will still come after you. You cannot get out
of this by trying to please the administration. They're still
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going to go after you.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
The entire policy platform is your Facebook uncle wanting to
earn the Libs.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
So we can see how well Gavin throwing trans people
under the bus has worked for the state of California
still getting sued. Lastly, before we pivot to ads, I
want to update a story that Robert talked about last week.
A former US Marine Corps reservist was arrested this Tuesday
after a week long manhunt. He faces charges related to
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an alleged armed ambush on an ice attention facility in
Prairie Land, Texas during a protest. He is now the
fourteenth person charged in connection with the incident, and is
also accused of purchasing four of the guns linked to
the attack. Now, two other people were also charged after
allegedly helping the former reservist to escape after the attack.
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Nancy Larson, the acting US attorney, told Fox and Friends
on Tuesday, quote they were involved in signal chats which
show connaissance planning, a Google map, and the location of
nearby police departments. At least one of these two new
people charged was only charged after cooperating with the investigation.
In this man's car, police found an air fifteen and
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a receipt for clothing that he admitted to purchasing for
the former Marine reservist.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, so, I mean this is a story to continue
to pay attention to. I would remind folks that we
know what the state is alleged in, you know, based
on the charging documents. We know what people have been
saying to the police, but we don't fully know what's
happened yet. So we'll be continuing to keep an eye
on this story as it develops. What do we have next, ads, Yeah,
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here's some products.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Ah, let's close this episode by talking about Nazis.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Nazis.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
That one doesn't work, Robert, I'm sorry, I want it to.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, no, it doesn't. It doesn't doesn't.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I've tried.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I've even tried it before. I've even tried it before.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah. Now we will have to return to stinky Motsk
once again. But before we do, I first want to
talk about friend of the pod, Greg Gutfield, who recently
discussed a strategy on how to minimize the impact of
the American fascist rights being called Nazis derogatorily. I will
play a short clip from Fox News.
Speaker 13 (45:33):
This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us when
you call us Nazis. Nazi, this notazee that you know.
I'm beginning to think they don't like us.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
I've said this before.
Speaker 13 (45:44):
We need to learn from the Blacks, the way they
were able to remove the power from the end word.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Nazi.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Hey, what up, my Nazi?
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
What's hanging my NAZIZI? Oh god, you did a hard
eye there. What does it tell you that? Oh my god?
GREGI wow, wow, they're all just laughing.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
I think.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Also quite concerned with that that's pretty disturbing.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, not great.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
He also he gave it one of those just to
just to really send it. He like, my heart goes
out to you gesture.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Oh god, that's right, my heart goes out to you. Salute. Yeah.
I mean, like I remember, like, you know, five years ago,
you had you had these al right people talking about
how you know, actually actually Hitler was was a socialist.
You know, the Nazis are actually communists. We're not We're
not Nazis. And now they're just openly trying to normalize
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referring to themselves as Nazis. It seems. It seems a
notable speaking of Nazis in the in the New Rights God,
Rock four has got a Department of Defense contract for
two hundred million dollars as a part of its Rock
for Government program, including the responsibility of handling sensitive classified materials.
(47:11):
And it happens on the same week that Mecca Hitler.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Mecha Hitler makes his beautiful debut.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, pretty troubling for our strongest allies in the IDF here.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Oh my god. I just the ways that reality could
could could break out into different timelines right now is
kind of dizzying, because there's a possibility that mecha Hitler
starts doing strikes based on anti Semitic Twitter users' recommendations
directly tied in with government advisory programs.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I go to say it's not going to went well
for Turkey, judging by what we saw last week.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
Another possible but weaponization of GROC four's to An announced
that Grock four is gonna be added to Teslas, So
mecha Hitler might also be driving a Tesla around. Yeah, great,
I will say.
Speaker 7 (48:02):
I will say the person the most happy about this
right now is somewhere in the depths of Chinese intelligence.
There is a colonel who is looking at this announcement
and is like, I am going all the way to
the top. My family is never working again in our
fucking lives. I am going to find so much dumb
shit that these soldiers are typing into fucking.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Do O d Grock Like, I am going to learn
so much. I would be quite nervous right now if
I was Will Stancil, who.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, he's got Teslas's kind of try to molested.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, he's gonna get it. He's gonna get drones struck.
Every drone is gonna turn around and try and find
Will Stanzel wherever they send it.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Grock is continuing to make rape threats against Will Stancil
despite the tweaks in the code, and it's still referencing
the Mecca Hitler incident. So Grok four is a new
model of Xai's chatbot service. It launched officially last week.
It was pretty similar to the model of groc used
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in the Mecha Hitler incident, but there's been some small
tweaks that researchers have noticed. An AI researcher named Jeremy
Howard at least a video showing how Grock tries to
answer a query about its stance on the quote Israel
Palestine conflict. Jeremy found quote. It first searches Twitter for
what Elon thinks, then it searches the web for Elon's views.
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Finally it adds some non Elon bits at the end.
Fifty four out of the sixty four citations are about
Elon unquote.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
XAI has confirmed that this was how Grock was operating,
and has since claimed that it's making adjustments now and
said that Grok was trying to appear in line with
the company's head and policy.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
This is amazing because hopefully it does a saying with
its defense policy, wasn't Elon Musk one of those like
F thirty five has gone woke?
Speaker 1 (50:04):
People.
Speaker 6 (50:05):
You'll have to answer that for yourself, James, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
this is this is a piece of law that has
passed you by for a while there and Musk concern
of his friends were quoting tweeting about the F thirty
five quoting, yeah, about F thirty five being woke and
how we should like return to F.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Sixteen or I think it was very funny.
Speaker 7 (50:29):
Are we going to talk about the other weird chat bots?
Speaker 10 (50:32):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:33):
How grog has the Death Note? Mysa? Lisa's like sexpot.
You know, if you want to talk about it, Miya,
I will not stop you. I don't know what the
fuck you're talking? Is this? Jar jar binks again.
Speaker 7 (50:44):
I have two sentences about this, one of which is
not mine. The first sentence I am going to say
is that, Yeah, the Twitter now has like a really
really weird animated girl sex bot thing that's like an.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
AI very clearly inspired by a Death Note character.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (51:04):
So sometimes you just need to say the obvious thing,
and the person who said the obvious thing is a
person on Blue Sky called at TVQ talks. They said,
I keep saying it. The push for AI made so
much more sense to me once I realized tech bros
talk to it like a woman who won't talk back,
and like yeah that they just.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Oh god, you know. I will say, if it was
modeled after L instead of MESA, it could serve some use,
it could be compelling. But because it's MESA, it's just
completely useless. So Garret, we already have that chatot. That
chatpot already exists. This has existed for a long time.
Where is an L death note chatpot?
Speaker 4 (51:44):
Me?
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Actually, no, you could send it to me. After this.
Speaker 7 (51:46):
There's a whole bunch of character chatpots that's like a
whole thing.
Speaker 8 (51:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Maybe not exactly what I'm looking for, but whatever.
Speaker 7 (51:53):
God, Okay, terrible zero out of ten. Let's talk about
the other Dad contracts.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Well, I mean yeah, but part this two hundred million
dollars groc contract was part of a series of AI
contracts that Anthroppeck and Claude also received. I think Google
got one. It's part of Trump's initiative to strengthen like
AI in government, so Grock is not the only one.
Speaker 7 (52:16):
I will also say that, like this is obviously like
the endgame of all of these companies is trying to
get their like failing AI firms bailed out by the military,
but like even two hundred million is not enough to
like recoup the hideous amounts of money these people are burning,
So I hope they all fail.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Raber, Do you have anything to add on on GROC Talk.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I mean, yeah, I think it's funny. He's also trying
to make AI companions out of groc One is clearly
a version of his ex Grimes, who is supposed to
teach you quantum physics.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
I mean, yeah, this is this is this that I
have sex with you? This is part of the mesa
MISA one as well.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, and then there's my favorite is the male chat bot,
which is based off of Christian Gray from Fifty Shades
of Gray, and also Edward Colin from Twilight, who.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Did just based off of the guy for fifty Shades Great. Yeah,
I just saw that this was the explicitly named as
the two inspiration. It's so funny. It's so funny. Again,
if it was l it could be worthwhile, but this
just is, like is just slop, worthless, no artistic merit
no anyway.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
That's all I got to add.
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Speaker 7 (54:27):
Wait, okay, late breaking, late breaking news, late breaking news.
Trump has reportedly broken a deal for Coca Cola to
use quote real sugarcane in US coke products.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yes, yes, finally, Wow, this is gonna go down well
with corn country.
Speaker 7 (54:45):
No, this this genuinely like if he actually goes to
war with like the American corn lobby, if he's the
one who does this and like gets the blow up
from it, I don't know. Like this this genuinely would
be a seismic restructuring agriculture in the United States.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Oh boy, yeah, I still use the corn. A load
of corn goes to feed things that them become feed, right.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
But still like, like we produced so much corn, we
had to make more corn things like, yeah, every year
they invent a new thing to do with corn. Disastrous.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
God, I am really gonna miss Red number forty. It
was my favorite. Whenever I was feeling down, I just
did a few drops. And it sucks to see an
old friend and go yeah tragic.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
Yeah, it's also going to be very hard for the
people who've made that whole identity buying Mexican coke and
glass bottles. We should pull one out for them.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be a rough night in Bushwick tonight.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
We reported the news, Yeah, we sure did.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
We reported the news.
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