February 21, 2025 • 42 mins
The gang get together to discuss White House plans to make Donald Trump king, house migrants in a prison James visited in Panama, and Make America Healthy Again by making it harder to access medicine. We also catch up with Elon Musk, as apartheid's favorite son continues his rampage through the federal government.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh, welcome to Executive Dysfunction, a podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
If you.
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Ed, it's Electoral Disuction colectile.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Executive Disordered, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the
White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you.
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Speaker 4 (00:33):
I'm Garrison Davis today him joined by James Stout, Mio Wong,
and Robert Evans, who never knows the title of the
podcast that he's on.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
In my defense, I'm on a lot of podcasts, I.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Was gonna say, just because Robert Evans lives in like
a constant podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
This episode, we are covering the week of February twelve
to February nineteen. Let's start with a brief Eric Adams update,
or as I call it, an.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Ew that's a Turkish for Eric Adams update.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So, in response to the calls to drop the Turkish
corruption charges against New York Mayor Eric Adams, eight top
federal prosecutors have resigned in protest. Then we had four
deputy mayors leave office. The New York Governor is now
considering removing Adams from office, which somehow is something that
the governor of New York has power to do, by
(01:22):
the way, and also the city council speaker has called
on the mayor to resign. There's a judge doing a
hearing on Wednesday as we are recording this right now,
on whether to appoint a special prosecutor to continue prosecuting
the charges despite you know, Trump's effort to have these
charges drops to help to help Adams make sure that
ice raids can continue in this city in a very
(01:44):
very clear quid pro quo. So this is a developing story.
We will continue on the Eric Adams front as this changes.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
By the way, people could miss it the first time,
like a few months ago, we did record an entire
episode about the things that he actually did, which are
unbelievably funny. So go listen to that. We're not going
to talk about them here, but it very very funny corruption.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, if you didn't get the Turkey joke, we explain
it in detail there.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I'm sure people are familiar with the Turkey situation in general.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
All right.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Next, on a related note, on Tuesday, President Trump instructed
the DOJ to fire all Biden appointed US attorneys. Now,
usually these types of appointments do resign at the end
of their president's term. But Trump just immediately going out
to fire all of them is a new, unique, and
noteworthy and Trump has done some other noteworthy things to
(02:36):
expand executive power, and for more on that, I will
turn to Mia Wong.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Oh Boy. So yesterday, on Tuesday the eighteenth, Trump signed
an executive order that effectively is just him saying the
words I am the law over and over again. The
actual sort of content of the executive order is convoluted,
but basically what he's saying is that, like the presidency
(03:01):
and like him specifically, is in control of all government agencies.
And this is an end to a very very long
standing practice of well, okay, attempt to end the long
standing practice of there being like independent regulatory agencies which
were set up by Congress. And what what Trump was
doing here is claiming that, you know, this is the
thing called the unitary executive theory. There's a whole history
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of this Republican Party. This is the most unhinged unitary
executive theory thing we've ever seen, where he is just
straight up claiming that he should be able to run
all these things that none of these independent regulatory agencies
and this includes stuff like the FCC, the Securities and
Exchange Commission, stuff like that actually all just directly answered
to him and not to you know, Congress or or
(03:44):
as you know, function as independent bodies like they were
set up to be by Acts of Congress. It states
that everyone's legal opinions that come out of these things
like have to agree with legal opinions of the Presidency.
And it basically sets up reporting thing where all of
these things have to like report any major policy decisions
that they're going to make to Russell Vott, who's like
(04:07):
one of the co authors of Project twenty twenty five. Yeah. Yeah,
so in some sense, it's a codification of the stuff
he's already been trying to do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Ever since basically he got inaugurated again, they've been trying
to push for this complete unitary executive power as like
running the entire not just running the entirely executive branch,
but all of these agencies that they want to rope
under the authority of the executive branch.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
And there's a number of sort of alarming things about
this one. This is a like even by the standards
of like peak War on Terror, Bush Administration Ship where
they're just like grabbing people off the streets like this
is a unprecedented sort of seizure of executive power.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Two.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And I think this is also worth noting in the
context of a bunch of the shit he's been saying
over the past week. Like last week he had the
the he who says his country does not violate any law,
which is like, I think, think a fake Napoleon quote.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's a fake Napoleon quote from a movie made in
the nineteen seventies in the Soviet Union. I believe the
name of the movie was Wateroo That rules. It's famous
because they'd made they had some massive thousands and thousands
of actual like soldiers, like set piece battles. But yeah,
that's where the quote. I think the quote may have
another origin, but that's the famous origin. It probably was
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never said by Napoleon.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Well, and earlier today, the official White House account tweeted
about abolishing the New York City congestion pricing with basically
like a magazine cover style image of Trump wearing a
crown with texts that reads, long Live the King.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And again that was the That was the official Twitter
account of the White.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
House, which has also been doing something like unhinged posting,
including like ASMR deportation videos. It's like really dark stuff,
like like viscerally upsetting.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, it is like the opening credit Somebody's Austin movie.
The White House twitter feed right now.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, it's the stuff like you used to not be
able to talk about being a king an American polity.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, pretty recently.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
That's kind of the whole point of this country.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
There's a state where the whole motto is six simper tyrannus.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, and the unit of the the United States military.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Yes, yeah, And okay, so I want to come back
on to the thing for a second talk about one
of the things that probably will be the crucial legal fight,
which is that like he's claiming the ability to be
the person who interprets the law, and you know, there's
a whole bunch of sort of legal fuzziness about that
and about to what extent these things are supposed to
be independent, but probably isn't the culmination of his attempt
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to literally like rule the entire country by executive fiat.
But this is such a big step. Yeah, this is
this is a massive step towards that. And I think,
you know, and we like Okay, this is one of
these things where we literally have no idea what the
consequences of this will be, because, like we are, we
are so far into the great beyond that shit is
happening that a year ago, if you proposed it, everyone
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would have thought you were completely out of your mind.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Well, and this is stuff that that like Robert has
been talking about for a long time. There's been a
lot of people talking about the Heritage Foundations push for
the unitary executive theory, stuff that Curtis Harrabin's been talking about.
Like my article last week on Shattersone kind of underlines
where they are going with with this. And and yeah,
like the consequences are so vast and unknowable because we've
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we've never had an executive that is kind of this
successfully or like this focused in his attempts to seize
like total executive control over the entirety of the federal government.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, and I want to end with like one of
the other really chilling parts of this, which is that
if you read the executive Order, the underlying logic of
it is that like the president is like the physical
manifestation of the will of the people.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, it's just the fear of prince.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, never been done before like that.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
And also specifically then Napoleon quote about like he U
say the country's not violin me low, Like that is
literally the legal principle that Carl Schmidt developed, like specifically
to put Hitler in power as the fewer Ye, So this.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Is great, I mean, and Musk and Trump have been
saying stuff akin to that in interviews, like being asked
like how is Doge allowed to do this sort of stuff?
Musk and Trump have been saying, well, the people voted
for this, like we we are. We are enabling the
will of the people, even if that like you know,
goes past like our technical authority, it's what the people wanted.
(08:25):
So we're gonna remove all of these bureaucrats that ordinarily
would try to stop us, because we have like the
consent of the.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Governed, the mandate of Heaven.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Even if that just completely bypasses Congress, even if that
denies the courts, which we'll talk about more later, they
are willing to go as far as as they can't.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, and no one stopped them yet, right, Like, I.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Mean, some of the courts are trying, but trying isn't
good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
They seem to be an open violation of that. Yeah,
like they would call to keep paying USAID stuff and
they just said they won't.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
More on that later.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Let's touch on immigration with James and then and then
we will have a quick break.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah. Perfect, Okay, So what I want to talk about
is this. It was first reported by the New York Times.
I've since confirmed it with sources on the ground in Panama.
The Trump administration is detaining migrants that it can't deport
to their home countries in Panama currently. So currently, these
are places where the US doesn't have good relations with
their government. Right, they'll be Afghans, they'll be Iranians, people
(09:23):
like that. The US seems to have found a way
to deport Venezuelan's using an airline that was sanctioned until
the day had apparently landed in a US military base
to take Venezuelan people back to Venezuela. If you want
to hear about like people leaving Iran and why they're
leaving Iran, you can listen to my episodes I did
in the Dadian Gap. They came out late October November
of last year. But right now they're being kind of
(09:45):
corraled in a hotel in Panama City from what I've heard,
and just this morning the transport to Sanvicente began. So
the New York Times kind of mischaracterizes the detention center
at Sanvicente. I'm guessing this is because they haven't been
there and I have. They called it like a detention
center that's being built, quote close to the jungle. It
(10:06):
looks close to the jungle if you're looking on Google Maps,
I suppose it's off it's off the Pan American Highway. Actually,
you literally take a dirt road off the Pan American
Highway and you come across this huge prison facility. It's
all big, modern white buildings. The old facility that was
there burned down and it's been rebuilt largely I'm getting
with money from when the Biden administration was funding deportations
(10:28):
for Panama in twenty twenty four. It's a vast attention facility.
At the time when I went there, my fixered Daddy
and Ella and I weren't allowed to access the facility,
but it was very clearly like too big for what
its stated purpose was. It stated purpose was people who
had warrants for their arrest and had been found to
have warrant for their arrest when they entered Panama and
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were being deported back to the countries where they had warrants.
I've spoken to half anoutand twenty dozen people who were
detained there, and I just got one quote surely to
read and then we can talk about this. They treated
us very badly verbally and psychologically. We all had to
do our business in the same cell. They threw food
on the floor for us to eat, and we were
all in handcuffs. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So is this a result of like Rubio's negotiations with Panama? Like,
how is this like logistically operating in terms of like
the US dropping people into a totally different country that
like they also just don't have citizenship too.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, So legality of taking somewhere to a third country,
it's a little unclear, right, of course, the United States
has done this well. Guantanamo Bay is technically American soil,
I guess, But they've also they've done it in other
places around the world that are not Guantanamo Bay throughout
the War on Terror. This is not the same as
the El Salvador Plan. The United States Department of Homeland
Security Secretary for Homeland Security attended the inauguration of the
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new Panamanian president. DHS and the Panamanian executive have a
very close relationship. Got it the US was funding deportations
for Panama under Biden. They claimed that these were only
people who had warrant for their arrest in the countries
they were being deported back to. When I spoke to
those people, like I was there when they literally took
the families apart, right, put the people in a truck,
(12:12):
sent them off to San Vicente and deported them. And
these guys, if they had warrant for their arrest, it
seems very odd because when they arrived back in Columbia,
they were not detained or arrested. And like, if you
have a warrant for someone and they get handed to you,
that's when you're going to detain them, right, And none
of them were detained. They've just released back to their
day to day life in Columbia. So like, there was
(12:32):
definitely precedent for this set by the Biden administration, But
what's happening now is is a degree worse right, taking people.
I don't know what the long term plan for these
Afghan and Aralian people is right where they going to
live in San Vicente?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Like, who's custody are they in?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah? Like is this like a DHS black site, Like
is it a yeah? No, absolutely are they? Are they
on US soil in Sandy Sente? Certainly when I was there,
it was secured exclusively by Panamanian authorities, not by US authorities.
So like the legal process, I'm guessing, like I don't
know if there is one beyond, Like we can't deport
(13:08):
these people back to their countries. We want to number
needs to go up, right. There's been reporting that Donald
Trump is upset that his deportation numbers haven't hit the
numbers that Biden did. Yeah, And so they're doing things
like this, which appears to be move fast and break things.
I guess, like, I don't really know how to describe it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I mean, it's the entire motto of the new Trump
term in general. And things are being broken.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yes they are, yeah, including lots of human rights conventions.
As we're recording this on Wednesday afternoon, I just heard
from a friend in Panama that three hundred people were
transferred to San Vicente, and it looks like one hundred
and seventy nine of them have no sort of clear
path to be deported back to their home countries, no
accepted place to send them. So those are the people
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who seem to be in legal limbo right now in
Panama and sem Vicente for a matter of time that
we don't know, in a status that we don't yet.
No isn't clear. But yeah, this is pretty bad. Like
I say, I've been on the ground. I don't many
other reporters who have been on the ground is sam Vicente.
We're very well sourced in Panama and among the migrant communities,
so we're going to continue reporting on this. I've already
(14:15):
sent some requests for comment out, so I would expect
us to have something out on this in the next
couple of weeks, hopefully.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
All right, let's go on a quick ad break and
come back to talk about RFK Junior.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Okay, we are back.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I need to take off my plate carrier.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
It's crushing me with as James takes off his plate
carrier that he's wearing for some reason.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's company policy that we all wear body arm or
well recording because of an accident that occurred several weeks ago.
We don't need to get into it. Garrison, Please continue, Garrison,
say something.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Rude or offensive when I had to take my headmans
off to take off my play carrier. Yes.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So last week, last week RFK Junior was confirmed as
Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
This is one I thought there might be a slightly
more pushback on. But oh, oh, how naive I was, Oh, yeah, No,
they are beaten into a corner.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I didn't a fight.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
On February thirteenth, Trump signed in executive order establishing a
Commission to make America Healthy Again. In the third paragraph,
the order states quote unquote, concern over the quote unquote
staggering increase of autism, and the next paragraph takes aim
at ADHD medication not great, not ideal, and the order
(15:41):
continues to be pretty bad. I will do a direct
quote here quote. This postes a dire threat to the
American people and our way of life. To fully address
the growing health crisis in America, we must redirect our
national focus in the public and private sectors towards understanding
and drastically lowering chronic disease rates and ending childhood chronic disease.
This includes fresh thinking on nutrition, physical activity, healthy lifestyles
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over reliance on medication and treatments and effects of new
technological habits, environmental impacts, and food and drug quality and
safety unquote fresh thinking.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Like, one of the like types of guys who I've
run into when I'm out in the mountains is people
who like have very reasonably assessed that people in the
United States don't have access to the healthiest food, especially
they don't have a lot of money, and that that
is impacting their health. Right, that's a fair enough assessment,
sure to go from that to like, and I just
want someone who will do something about it. So I
guess this RFK guy is okay.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
No, No, everything in this order has the most like
dog whistly language. Oh yeah, that not only like directly
targets life saving medication, but it can also be used
to target like vaccines, and like it's it's really worrying.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And there's a measles outbreak right now right in Laredo,
like in Texas, three.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hundred people last I checked in Laredo around Laredo.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, there's been an increasing number of measles outbreaks the
past like five years in this country.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, if you're not aware of how devastating measles outbreaks
can be. I'd really encourage you to look into the
outbreak in Samoa and the absolutely heartbreaking consequences of that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, which RFK Junior helped cause by pushing a shitload
of anti vaccine propaganda. Here, something like eighty people died,
most of them children.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Jesus. Yeah, they ran out of child sized coffins and
had to us for people to send more.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, which leads to a separate problem. But you know,
if you go to Childcoffins dot com and put in
the promo code, it could happen here anyway. Ten percent off.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, RFK gets you twenty percent off the Yeah, it's
a good business to be in.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Speaking of Section two of the order calls to quote
unquote aggressively combat critical health challenges such as quote the
rising rates of mental health disorders and diabetes. So RFK
has been a number of statements that are worrying, which
is just a blanket statement that I can make, but
specifically talking about how to treat diabetes with like, you know,
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lifestyle changes and like in changing your diet habits and
like a whole bunch of extremely worrying stuff. Section five
of the order states that with one hundred days This
new commission, made up of the heads of thirteen various
agencies and chaired by RFK Junior, is supposed to submit
their findings that quote assess the threat that potential over
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utilization of medication, certain food ingredients, certain chemicals, and certain
other exposures posed to children. And assess the prevalence of
and threat posed by the prescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, antipsychotics,
mood stabilizers, stimulants, and weight loss drugs unquote the idea
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that we're going to be trying to take away people's
antipsychotics while also making handguns more available across the country.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yes, more children with handguns, less children on antipsychotics.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Like, but like this is this is targ getting like
depression medication, mood stabilizers, meds for ADHD, you know, like antipsychotics.
And then also you know, lines about certain chemicals absolutely
being like an anti vaccine dog whistle.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Also also we have to mention to the diabetes part
of this. Yeah, where that is uh an unbelievably alarming
thing for for him to be say, Yeah, it's pretty
bad because like the thing about diabetes is you don't
have to feel like your body can't, like literally can't
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physically fucking process shit. You can't actually solve that with exercise.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Like yeah, and like I'll just say, like I've worked
in diabetes education in the past, right, and in various
nonprofit capacities. Not that kind of doctor, but I have
seen the people who have died because they have been
subjected to this kind of bullshit. Like I know the
people who have lost children and loved ones because of this.
And it is heartbreaking to think that somebody, no, somebody
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trying to make money would like to someone about their health.
And the people who are most vulnerable to this are
the people who are also already struggling to access healthcare
and access medications, and it is disgusting to see the
government pushing this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
On Tuesday, r K Junior made his first official statement
since being confirmed, promising that quote nothing is going to
be off limits unquote in his quest to make America
healthy again, telling Health and Human Services staffers quote, some
of the possible factors we will investigate were formally taboo
or insufficiently scrutinized unquote, And then, according to Politico, RFK
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Junior suggests that he would direct HHS to investigate antidepression, drugs,
ultra processed food, electromagnetic radiation, and the herbicide glysophate. So
that seems to be some of their first targets.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Four G, five G cell tower shit great.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Great, yeah, yeah, no, Now I am excited for people
to both not have food and also not have adderall. Uh.
That's that's really going to make quite an interesting mob.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Our economy is going to crash if they if they
remove adderall, this whole country is going to cake.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
If we are going to see stockbrokers leaping out of
windows at rates unheard.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Of, it's that stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
We are simply going to move to an economy that
is entirely based on the consumption of cocaine and meth
like one of these things is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That's true. Adderall is going to be worth more by
weight than gold. People. Vans will be the new legal currency.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
I'm gonna start store them like pepper corns.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I bought a house with two months of vivants.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Lastly, before we go on, break borders are Tom Homan
has been on a crusade against AOC and others for
holding Know Your Rights trainings specifically informing constituents, including legal
citizens who are being harassed by ICE that you do
not need to open the door. If ICE knocks on
your door, you can ask them to leave, You can
stay silent. You don't need to share personal information. You
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have the right to speak with an attorney, and you
do not need to sign anything or hand over any documents.
So there's been you know, like webinars and trainings informing
people of their rights. And this is really upset borders
our Tom Homan who last week went on Fox News
to accuse AOC of impediment, which is not a real word. Yes,
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and he announced that he has directed or has asked
the DOJ and the Deputy Attorney General to investigate AOC
for interfering with ICE actions by simply educating people about
their rights. I have a clip here I'm going to
play in the podcast with Homan on Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
When does it cross a line into aiding and embedding
law breaking?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It wouldn't have to have direct involvement by her in
helping people to evade ICE.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
That's exactly the question I pull go to the deput
Attorney General. I asked them to look into I says,
I you know, I know I through my career, someone
steps in front of it, in between you and the
personal rest and your repeating yeah, that's a violation. But
what point do you cross line on saying you're educating
people versus your teaching howled bade ice wrest. So I've
asked that question to the Department of Justice for clear
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guidance so I can share that with the officers advice.
So we're looking for that, uh, clear direction so we
can start taking action. And people don't want to invade,
who want to help educate these people to evade ice.
So hopefully any day now we get that guidance sent
out to the field.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Let's turn this over to discussion. James, I'm sure, I'm
sure you have some thoughts on this.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, look, this is the kind of foundational to the
Constitution rights access to an attorney, the right to an attorney,
And it's again something that like even under Biden, that
the DHS have been taking a swing at. Specifically, we've
done an episode last year about transferring detained people in
ice custom away from their attorneys. Right in this most
(24:03):
cases it was people from California, specificlarly San Diego, County
because San Diego County had a program that funded some
attorney access and moving them to Texas. So like you're
either going to bleed that program dry flying attorneys to
Texas or have them do it over a phone call.
But a lot of these people who are detained because
they come from dictatorial countries don't feel like phone calls
are secure, and so they're they're not really going to
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feel comfortable talking to their attorney on a phone call.
We've done a whole episode about.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
That, you can go back and listen to it, and
like this is very basic Fourth Amendment stuff and that
this this applies to you whether or not you were
a citizen, and this applies.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
To you if you are in this country.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, you have these rights.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
And it is within ices and the Tom Holman's interests
to make people not realize that they actually do have
rights regardless of their immigration status.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah. Absolutely, Like they're not gonna tell you, necessarily, right
what rights you have. No, they're not going to tell
you they don't have the right to enter your house.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Police want to enter your home and if you open
the door, they but you do not need to open
the door. And like this is like very basic stuff
of informing people, really getting on Tom Homan's nervous. He's
been on news like five times the past week to
specifically complain about AOZ. He really wants sort of get
arrested for this thing that's not a crime.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of what they're going forward throughout, right,
But like I know, for instance, in California, lots of
universities have these like know your Rights cards accessible that
you can have them in your lectures and give them
out your students so they can take them regardless of
citizenship status, right, which is generally the way to approach
this right with a with an agnostic approach to citizenship. Correct,
you don't certainly want to be holding a if you're
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undocumented come to this thing at this time and will
give you a know your Right session like that. That
is not a smart way to approach this. But yeah,
like immigration agnostic know your rights trainings, they're kind of
foundational to to like constitutional rights that they're pretty much
front and center.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Of things you're allowed. Do you know what else is
front center advertisements? That's right, it's in their article twenty two.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
It's like they they can't put the soldiers in your
bedroom unless that's once hit by.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, look depending on the soldier.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
All Right, we are back, Mia. It's a time for
tariff talk. Yeah, time of tariff Talk.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Tariff Talk. Dan Will inserts a little little musical jingle
here for tariff Talk.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Daniel.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I'll not but an editor on this podcast for years, but.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Sure, tariff Talk, Tariff Talk talking about terriff.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Tariff talk with me a walk.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I thought Garrison said turf talk in a Canadian way.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It was like very different podcast, much more cursing.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Why not Mia, Mia, tariff Talk. Okay, Okay, I got
a through line, which is that Trump is announcing that
he's going to maybe sign an executive order to put
into effect more terriffs. One of those is pharmaceuticals, which
would actually would actually like possibly impact shashy your healthcare.
So there's my tie in. Okay, But those the main
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things is auto imports like computer chips and pharmaceuticals are
supposed to get we think in April like a twenty
five percent terri if. It's again unclear whether these will
go into effecting break but I think it's worth noting
this because and this is something I haven't seen anyone
put together for reasons that are absolutely baffling to me.
But I actually think that a big part of the
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pharmaceutical like tariff threat here is specifically to threaten Denmark
into selling Greenland because one of Denmark's largest companies is
nov and Nordius, who would get absolutely colossally fucked by this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And so we sort of have to look at all
of these in the context of, like what kinds of
negotiations are going on. That chips one is pretty obviously
like a China Taie one one, although the cars, the
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auto import one, I think is specific pretty specifically it's
it's all auto imports. I think it's pretty specifically targeted
at Mexico because there's a whole bunch of auto like
like full car imports from Mexico. But yeah, twenty five
percent tariffs. Will see exactly what happens with this round
of negotiations, but who knows they might go into effect.
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This might also be part of the push to the
US to seize Greenland. This is also less of a
Trump thing, but I think it's worth noting the sort
of seriousness that both the kind of the people around
Trump and also like the media in Canada is taking
like a potential US attempt to just like sees Canada like,
oh yeah, like they might really do that.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Oddly enough, this push from Trump might actually help catalyze
the anti conservative movement in Canada, which has kind of
been trending conservative the past ten years.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, and Trump's actions have really upset the country, even
the conservative factions. Yeah, you're seeing support for the Liberals swell,
which has been like in like rapid decline for the
past five years. So it's actually causing a pretty big
shake up in Canadian politics right now, which I'm sure
I'll do an episode on in the future.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
There's even I don't know if it'll it's going things
are going to change enough to have a big influence.
They probably won't on the next German election, but AfD
saw its first drop and support in a while after
JD Vance endorsed them. Still doesn't have any juice we
except send them to the UK.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
We could kill reform now send it to the UK.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, God, how I would love to see that.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I wish to get back on the war on Woke front.
I like to talk about attempts to purge DEI gone wrong.
Specifically in OSHA, who has now trashed a workplace of
safety guidelines by banning and removing like eighteen workplace like
training and safety publications for a popular info Now. Some
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of these documents have been removed for just containing the
word like gender wow, like in one case, about how
patients might need different treatments based.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
On their gender or age.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
This list of banned documents also include a document from
twosand and nine that instructs employers on how to quote
unquote protect their EMS responders from becoming additional victims while
on the front line of medical response unquote. The alleged
reason for removal is because the document contains a sentence
about how EMT workers work under quote unquote diverse conditions
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and that EMT agencies have a quote diversity of state
specific certification, training, and regulatory requirements.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
There was also a special education program dedicated to helping
young adult special ed kids transition into the workforce that
got cut, and the suspicion is because it was a
child program that included the word transition.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Like.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We're not going to know for a while the precise reason,
but all of this lines up pretty well well.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I mean, I'm sure it would also be removing programs
with the word disability.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Frankly like yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and they're
doing that elsewhere too.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I just yeah, And this is affecting a huge number
of agencies, right, We could do we probably will do
whole episodes on this. I've been collecting a whole bunch
of resources in a document called the War on Woke,
which eventually I will turn into an episode. This is
manifested in otherwise as well. There's now disclaimers on the
target HIV and the CDC website, which now reads the
(31:16):
CDC's website. It's being modified to comply with President Trump's
executive orders, and specifically, on pages related to sexual health,
there is a big like a top banner reading quote.
Per court order, HHS is required to restore this website.
As of eleven fifty nine pm February fourteen, twenty twenty five,
any information on this page promoting gender ideology is extremely
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inaccurate and disconnected from the immutable biological reality that there
are two sexes, male and female. The Trump administration rejects
gender ideology and condemns the harms it causes to children
by promoting their chemical and surgical mutilation and to women
by depriving them of their dignity, safety, well being, and opportunities.
This page does not reflect biological reality, and therefore the
administration and this department rejects it out. So even though
(32:01):
they've been ordered to have these web pages, it's still online.
They are basically defacing the web pages with these with
these notes from the Trump team.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah. That also, by the way, and the extent to
which this matters is basically zero because they don't give
a shit with the court say, but like, that's also
a violation of the court order. Pretty much. They did
not put up the website as it was at the
time were specified for. They have put new bullshit into it.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Like, but speaking of violating court orders, the Trump administration
told a judge in a Tuesday court filing that it
will not comply with the TRORO directing USAIDED and the
State Department to resume foreign aid funding, stating that quote
USAYED intends to terminate instruments that the administrator determines are
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inconsistent with the national interests or usaide's mission. And it
tries to argue that this is like in line with
usaide's you know, lawful ability to operate. So they are
just like blatantly, blatantly defying a judge's order, as we've
talked about how they seem to be wanting to and
continuing to do for the past like four weeks. More
(33:04):
on that in the weeks to come, as this situation
you know, escalates through different appeals courts and you know,
will eventually probably reach some kind of final showdown with
the Supreme Court. Now, longtime Social Security official Michelle King
has quit the agency amid fights to prevent DOAGE from
accessing sensitive information. The Washington Post quoted Martin O'Malley, the
Social Security Commission under the Biden administration and a former
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Maryland governor, as saying, quote, at this rate, they will
break it, and they will break it fast, and there
will be an interruption of benefits.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Unquote.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Social Security is just one of the agencies that dog
is either gutting or has already gutted, and it's leading
to kind of a mass resignation not only of like
you know, probationary employees and like deferred resignation like letter employees,
right everyone who's receiving that fork in the road email,
but also just like top ranking like officials who've been
doing this their whole lives, who are quitting because now
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it's impossible for them to like do their job with
Musk's doge basically running all of these departments and determining
who can be hired who should be fired. In late January,
David Leibrick, the highest ranking civil servant at the Treasury Department,
was put on leave and then quit his job after
trying to stop dog from accessing data at the Bureau
of Fiscal Service. The head of the FDA's Food Division,
(34:18):
Jim Jones, resigned last Monday, citing dough as inhibiting his
ability to run the department. And at least four deadly
plane crashes have happened this past month, actually five now
considering well one this morning. And then there's also that
whole upside down Delta flight from Minneapolis to Toronto. And
this is all happening amidst the Trump admins mass firing
(34:39):
of several hundred probationary employees at the FAA, an already
understaffed agency. And this past Monday, a team from SpaceX
arrived at the Air Traffic Control headquarters in Virginia to
begin the process of overhauling the control system.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Great cool.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Luckily SpaceX has had no notable incidents and so I'm
sure that will be fine.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
No, they didn't just hide a racket going off.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
There's there's good news. There is there is good news
on this front, which is that President Trump is very
very mad that his new Boeing like plane is like
his personal plane. For like, I think it's I think
it's like another air Force one or something isn't.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Coming fast enough.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
So's he's now encouraging them to like do a rush
job on it and like let people in doing the
right security clearances. So so this whole thing critical support
to Boeing. Critical Boeing, you motherfuckers, you have one job, mister,
produced an airplane at your normal quality and standards.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Similar to that on February thirteenth, that an air Force
plane carrying Secretary of State Mark Rubio was forced to
turn around en route from Washington to Munich after the aircraft,
a converted Boeing seven fifty seven, experienced a mechanical issue
ninety minutes into the flight, so they were forced to
turn around. So again, critical support to Boeing. I only
wish them the best in securing more and more government contracts.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Absolutely, you know, I think we uh uh I actually
we would probably call it as an episode before I
make any more jokes about air travel.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Which is increasingly scary. I flew so much last year,
and I am less willing to now.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I do not want to. Now that said, it is
worth noting. I think there's two things that are worth noting.
One is most of what people are pointing out as
like scary crashes are crashes that the same number happened
to this point last year. When it comes to like
small aircraft, yeah, those are much more dangerous than cars
like tiny personal aircraft, which is why I always enjoy
(36:34):
at cees when they try to sell cars less regulated
flying cars.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
But I also think from a political standpoint, no, we
should actually absolutely every single plane crash, even if it's
a tiny plane crashing and not tied to the greater
shit with the FAA, all of them should go on
Trump's head. It's not about what's true, it's about what
you can use to make political hay. And this is
something that you can hurt Republicans with. Every time someone
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eyes in a plane crash, lay it at their feet, right, Like,
what do you get from being honest.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And it has been one of the more deadly monks
in aviation. H Yeah, specifically for like American soil.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They're definitely going to get people killed. But like the
way that you do that is not wait until okay,
this is finally the one that it's fair to attack.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you make it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
You make every time this gets in the news, you
make it on their head.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You know, it's certainly not helping, right that, Like the
FAA was already understuffed, Like as as you said, people
were already dying in plane crashes. Taking stuff away from
the FAA is not helping, Like we can't isolate that
from every crash that happens.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
And like it's it's not just that, it's also like
the continued they continued hiring freeze. Largely air traffic control
operators have not been affected by the firings. Other support
staff have, which are still just as crucial. But it's
also preventing them from hiring more air traffic controllers, which
they need to because it's so understaff, which actually does
lead to an increase of these like small plane collisions.
(38:00):
And this is this is like a similar pattern across
all departments. Though, the USDA announced on Tuesday that over
the weekend they accidentally fired several agency employees who are
working on the bird flu response as a result of
the Trump Doge mass firings and now and now USDA
is trying to rehire them.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Have we explained the provisional employee firing thing that they're
doing for all.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Of these on here yet you should explain what a
probational employee is.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, yeah, it's employees that I've been hired for less
than a year and have different protections than other career employees.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
And part of Doge's campaign to do like massive massive
layoffs across all government sectors is by targeting first of
all probationary employees because they're easiest to fire, and then
move on to career employees. And like this this is
just like the first batch of mass layoffs because they're
the easiest to do. They don't have like union negotiations,
they can't appeal the firing. So this is like the
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first step in a larger series of events that will
lead to, you know, a severely reduced government workforce. And
like this situation with the USDA is a very similar
situation with the Nuclear Strategy employees who the government is
struggling to rehire because they lost contact information with them
after firing them.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
They fired the Duke Police.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
They fired the guys whose job is to transport and
make sure no one steals nuclear weapons. I cannot have
the one kind of cop we can all agree we
need as long as we keep having those things.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
This is one of these things where it's like like
I've been saying, not even really as a joke, that
millions of people are going to die from this, but
like yeah, like if these people are not stopped, oh,
you will have a broken arrow. We are like two
months into this. This is the second time they have
tried to fire the nuke Police, and they actually succeeded
this time. Right, Like millions of people are going to die,
(39:55):
and they lost their phone number. They can't even call
them back, Like they don't don't the numbers of the security,
Like these people must be stopped from doing this or
or we are going to see a cataclysm that is
going to make the fucking pandemic look like a fucking joke.
Like we're all going to look fondly back on like
the year we spent in lockdown and a million who
(40:17):
died as like the fucking like smoking remains of seven
American cities.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I have an episode on this that I'll put out
at some point. But you're getting to a thing that
I've been worried about for a while, Mia, which is,
we are every day getting closer and closer to a
nuclear January sixth. And what I mean by that is
an incident in which a nuclear weapon gets it either
gets utilized or gets out of the control of its
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proper handlers in a way that is dumb. In the
same way January sixth to us. So I'm not talking
about you have like an actual military conflict between Russia
and the United States. I'm talking about something really fucking stupid,
Like I'm talking about something incomprehensibly silly. And yeah, millions
of people will at least potentially die.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Well, what another uplifted episode of it could happen here?
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Happen here? Stop them now, they're week right now, before
they do this, they could only get stronger.
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
If you.
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Speaker 4 (00:19):
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I'm Garrison Davis today him joined by James Stout, Mio Wong,
and Robert Evans, who never knows the title of the
podcast that he's on.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
In my defense, I'm on a lot of podcasts, I.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Was gonna say, just because Robert Evans lives in like
a constant podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
This episode, we are covering the week of February twelve
to February nineteen. Let's start with a brief Eric Adams update,
or as I call it, an.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Ew that's a Turkish for Eric Adams update.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
So, in response to the calls to drop the Turkish
corruption charges against New York Mayor Eric Adams, eight top
federal prosecutors have resigned in protest. Then we had four
deputy mayors leave office. The New York Governor is now
considering removing Adams from office, which somehow is something that
the governor of New York has power to do, by
(01:22):
the way, and also the city council speaker has called
on the mayor to resign. There's a judge doing a
hearing on Wednesday as we are recording this right now,
on whether to appoint a special prosecutor to continue prosecuting
the charges despite you know, Trump's effort to have these
charges drops to help to help Adams make sure that
ice raids can continue in this city in a very
(01:44):
very clear quid pro quo. So this is a developing story.
We will continue on the Eric Adams front as this changes.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
By the way, people could miss it the first time,
like a few months ago, we did record an entire
episode about the things that he actually did, which are
unbelievably funny. So go listen to that. We're not going
to talk about them here, but it very very funny corruption.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, if you didn't get the Turkey joke, we explain
it in detail there.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I'm sure people are familiar with the Turkey situation in general.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
All right.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Next, on a related note, on Tuesday, President Trump instructed
the DOJ to fire all Biden appointed US attorneys. Now,
usually these types of appointments do resign at the end
of their president's term. But Trump just immediately going out
to fire all of them is a new, unique, and
noteworthy and Trump has done some other noteworthy things to
(02:36):
expand executive power, and for more on that, I will
turn to Mia Wong.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Oh Boy. So yesterday, on Tuesday the eighteenth, Trump signed
an executive order that effectively is just him saying the
words I am the law over and over again. The
actual sort of content of the executive order is convoluted,
but basically what he's saying is that, like the presidency
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and like him specifically, is in control of all government agencies.
And this is an end to a very very long
standing practice of well, okay, attempt to end the long
standing practice of there being like independent regulatory agencies which
were set up by Congress. And what what Trump was
doing here is claiming that, you know, this is the
thing called the unitary executive theory. There's a whole history
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of this Republican Party. This is the most unhinged unitary
executive theory thing we've ever seen, where he is just
straight up claiming that he should be able to run
all these things that none of these independent regulatory agencies
and this includes stuff like the FCC, the Securities and
Exchange Commission, stuff like that actually all just directly answered
to him and not to you know, Congress or or
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as you know, function as independent bodies like they were
set up to be by Acts of Congress. It states
that everyone's legal opinions that come out of these things
like have to agree with legal opinions of the Presidency.
And it basically sets up reporting thing where all of
these things have to like report any major policy decisions
that they're going to make to Russell Vott, who's like
(04:07):
one of the co authors of Project twenty twenty five. Yeah. Yeah,
so in some sense, it's a codification of the stuff
he's already been trying to do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Ever since basically he got inaugurated again, they've been trying
to push for this complete unitary executive power as like
running the entire not just running the entirely executive branch,
but all of these agencies that they want to rope
under the authority of the executive branch.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
And there's a number of sort of alarming things about
this one. This is a like even by the standards
of like peak War on Terror, Bush Administration Ship where
they're just like grabbing people off the streets like this
is a unprecedented sort of seizure of executive power.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Two.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And I think this is also worth noting in the
context of a bunch of the shit he's been saying
over the past week. Like last week he had the
the he who says his country does not violate any law,
which is like, I think, think a fake Napoleon quote.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It's a fake Napoleon quote from a movie made in
the nineteen seventies in the Soviet Union. I believe the
name of the movie was Wateroo That rules. It's famous
because they'd made they had some massive thousands and thousands
of actual like soldiers, like set piece battles. But yeah,
that's where the quote. I think the quote may have
another origin, but that's the famous origin. It probably was
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never said by Napoleon.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Well, and earlier today, the official White House account tweeted
about abolishing the New York City congestion pricing with basically
like a magazine cover style image of Trump wearing a
crown with texts that reads, long Live the King.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And again that was the That was the official Twitter
account of the White.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
House, which has also been doing something like unhinged posting,
including like ASMR deportation videos. It's like really dark stuff,
like like viscerally upsetting.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, it is like the opening credit Somebody's Austin movie.
The White House twitter feed right now.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, it's the stuff like you used to not be
able to talk about being a king an American polity.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, pretty recently.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
That's kind of the whole point of this country.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
There's a state where the whole motto is six simper tyrannus.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, and the unit of the the United States military.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Yes, yeah, And okay, so I want to come back
on to the thing for a second talk about one
of the things that probably will be the crucial legal fight,
which is that like he's claiming the ability to be
the person who interprets the law, and you know, there's
a whole bunch of sort of legal fuzziness about that
and about to what extent these things are supposed to
be independent, but probably isn't the culmination of his attempt
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to literally like rule the entire country by executive fiat.
But this is such a big step. Yeah, this is
this is a massive step towards that. And I think,
you know, and we like Okay, this is one of
these things where we literally have no idea what the
consequences of this will be, because, like we are, we
are so far into the great beyond that shit is
happening that a year ago, if you proposed it, everyone
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would have thought you were completely out of your mind.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Well, and this is stuff that that like Robert has
been talking about for a long time. There's been a
lot of people talking about the Heritage Foundations push for
the unitary executive theory, stuff that Curtis Harrabin's been talking about.
Like my article last week on Shattersone kind of underlines
where they are going with with this. And and yeah,
like the consequences are so vast and unknowable because we've
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we've never had an executive that is kind of this
successfully or like this focused in his attempts to seize
like total executive control over the entirety of the federal government.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, and I want to end with like one of
the other really chilling parts of this, which is that
if you read the executive Order, the underlying logic of
it is that like the president is like the physical
manifestation of the will of the people.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, it's just the fear of prince.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, never been done before like that.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
And also specifically then Napoleon quote about like he U
say the country's not violin me low, Like that is
literally the legal principle that Carl Schmidt developed, like specifically
to put Hitler in power as the fewer Ye, So this.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Is great, I mean, and Musk and Trump have been
saying stuff akin to that in interviews, like being asked
like how is Doge allowed to do this sort of stuff?
Musk and Trump have been saying, well, the people voted
for this, like we we are. We are enabling the
will of the people, even if that like you know,
goes past like our technical authority, it's what the people wanted.
(08:25):
So we're gonna remove all of these bureaucrats that ordinarily
would try to stop us, because we have like the
consent of the.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Governed, the mandate of Heaven.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Even if that just completely bypasses Congress, even if that
denies the courts, which we'll talk about more later, they
are willing to go as far as as they can't.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, and no one stopped them yet, right, Like, I.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Mean, some of the courts are trying, but trying isn't
good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
They seem to be an open violation of that. Yeah,
like they would call to keep paying USAID stuff and
they just said they won't.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
More on that later.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Let's touch on immigration with James and then and then
we will have a quick break.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah. Perfect, Okay, So what I want to talk about
is this. It was first reported by the New York Times.
I've since confirmed it with sources on the ground in Panama.
The Trump administration is detaining migrants that it can't deport
to their home countries in Panama currently. So currently, these
are places where the US doesn't have good relations with
their government. Right, they'll be Afghans, they'll be Iranians, people
(09:23):
like that. The US seems to have found a way
to deport Venezuelan's using an airline that was sanctioned until
the day had apparently landed in a US military base
to take Venezuelan people back to Venezuela. If you want
to hear about like people leaving Iran and why they're
leaving Iran, you can listen to my episodes I did
in the Dadian Gap. They came out late October November
of last year. But right now they're being kind of
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corraled in a hotel in Panama City from what I've heard,
and just this morning the transport to Sanvicente began. So
the New York Times kind of mischaracterizes the detention center
at Sanvicente. I'm guessing this is because they haven't been
there and I have. They called it like a detention
center that's being built, quote close to the jungle. It
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looks close to the jungle if you're looking on Google Maps,
I suppose it's off it's off the Pan American Highway. Actually,
you literally take a dirt road off the Pan American
Highway and you come across this huge prison facility. It's
all big, modern white buildings. The old facility that was
there burned down and it's been rebuilt largely I'm getting
with money from when the Biden administration was funding deportations
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for Panama in twenty twenty four. It's a vast attention facility.
At the time when I went there, my fixered Daddy
and Ella and I weren't allowed to access the facility,
but it was very clearly like too big for what
its stated purpose was. It stated purpose was people who
had warrants for their arrest and had been found to
have warrant for their arrest when they entered Panama and
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were being deported back to the countries where they had warrants.
I've spoken to half anoutand twenty dozen people who were
detained there, and I just got one quote surely to
read and then we can talk about this. They treated
us very badly verbally and psychologically. We all had to
do our business in the same cell. They threw food
on the floor for us to eat, and we were
all in handcuffs. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So is this a result of like Rubio's negotiations with Panama? Like,
how is this like logistically operating in terms of like
the US dropping people into a totally different country that
like they also just don't have citizenship too.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, So legality of taking somewhere to a third country,
it's a little unclear, right, of course, the United States
has done this well. Guantanamo Bay is technically American soil,
I guess, But they've also they've done it in other
places around the world that are not Guantanamo Bay throughout
the War on Terror. This is not the same as
the El Salvador Plan. The United States Department of Homeland
Security Secretary for Homeland Security attended the inauguration of the
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new Panamanian president. DHS and the Panamanian executive have a
very close relationship. Got it the US was funding deportations
for Panama under Biden. They claimed that these were only
people who had warrant for their arrest in the countries
they were being deported back to. When I spoke to
those people, like I was there when they literally took
the families apart, right, put the people in a truck,
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sent them off to San Vicente and deported them. And
these guys, if they had warrant for their arrest, it
seems very odd because when they arrived back in Columbia,
they were not detained or arrested. And like, if you
have a warrant for someone and they get handed to you,
that's when you're going to detain them, right, And none
of them were detained. They've just released back to their
day to day life in Columbia. So like, there was
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definitely precedent for this set by the Biden administration, But
what's happening now is is a degree worse right, taking people.
I don't know what the long term plan for these
Afghan and Aralian people is right where they going to
live in San Vicente?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Like, who's custody are they in?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah? Like is this like a DHS black site, Like
is it a yeah? No, absolutely are they? Are they
on US soil in Sandy Sente? Certainly when I was there,
it was secured exclusively by Panamanian authorities, not by US authorities.
So like the legal process, I'm guessing, like I don't
know if there is one beyond, Like we can't deport
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these people back to their countries. We want to number
needs to go up, right. There's been reporting that Donald
Trump is upset that his deportation numbers haven't hit the
numbers that Biden did. Yeah, And so they're doing things
like this, which appears to be move fast and break things.
I guess, like, I don't really know how to describe it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I mean, it's the entire motto of the new Trump
term in general. And things are being broken.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yes they are, yeah, including lots of human rights conventions.
As we're recording this on Wednesday afternoon, I just heard
from a friend in Panama that three hundred people were
transferred to San Vicente, and it looks like one hundred
and seventy nine of them have no sort of clear
path to be deported back to their home countries, no
accepted place to send them. So those are the people
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who seem to be in legal limbo right now in
Panama and sem Vicente for a matter of time that
we don't know, in a status that we don't yet.
No isn't clear. But yeah, this is pretty bad. Like
I say, I've been on the ground. I don't many
other reporters who have been on the ground is sam Vicente.
We're very well sourced in Panama and among the migrant communities,
so we're going to continue reporting on this. I've already
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sent some requests for comment out, so I would expect
us to have something out on this in the next
couple of weeks, hopefully.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
All right, let's go on a quick ad break and
come back to talk about RFK Junior.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Okay, we are back.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I need to take off my plate carrier.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
It's crushing me with as James takes off his plate
carrier that he's wearing for some reason.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's company policy that we all wear body arm or
well recording because of an accident that occurred several weeks ago.
We don't need to get into it. Garrison, Please continue, Garrison,
say something.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Rude or offensive when I had to take my headmans
off to take off my play carrier. Yes.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So last week, last week RFK Junior was confirmed as
Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
This is one I thought there might be a slightly
more pushback on. But oh, oh, how naive I was, Oh, yeah, No,
they are beaten into a corner.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I didn't a fight.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
On February thirteenth, Trump signed in executive order establishing a
Commission to make America Healthy Again. In the third paragraph,
the order states quote unquote, concern over the quote unquote
staggering increase of autism, and the next paragraph takes aim
at ADHD medication not great, not ideal, and the order
(15:41):
continues to be pretty bad. I will do a direct
quote here quote. This postes a dire threat to the
American people and our way of life. To fully address
the growing health crisis in America, we must redirect our
national focus in the public and private sectors towards understanding
and drastically lowering chronic disease rates and ending childhood chronic disease.
This includes fresh thinking on nutrition, physical activity, healthy lifestyles
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over reliance on medication and treatments and effects of new
technological habits, environmental impacts, and food and drug quality and
safety unquote fresh thinking.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Like, one of the like types of guys who I've
run into when I'm out in the mountains is people
who like have very reasonably assessed that people in the
United States don't have access to the healthiest food, especially
they don't have a lot of money, and that that
is impacting their health. Right, that's a fair enough assessment,
sure to go from that to like, and I just
want someone who will do something about it. So I
guess this RFK guy is okay.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
No, No, everything in this order has the most like
dog whistly language. Oh yeah, that not only like directly
targets life saving medication, but it can also be used
to target like vaccines, and like it's it's really worrying.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And there's a measles outbreak right now right in Laredo,
like in Texas, three.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hundred people last I checked in Laredo around Laredo.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, there's been an increasing number of measles outbreaks the
past like five years in this country.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, if you're not aware of how devastating measles outbreaks
can be. I'd really encourage you to look into the
outbreak in Samoa and the absolutely heartbreaking consequences of that.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, which RFK Junior helped cause by pushing a shitload
of anti vaccine propaganda. Here, something like eighty people died,
most of them children.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Jesus. Yeah, they ran out of child sized coffins and
had to us for people to send more.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, which leads to a separate problem. But you know,
if you go to Childcoffins dot com and put in
the promo code, it could happen here anyway. Ten percent off.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, RFK gets you twenty percent off the Yeah, it's
a good business to be in.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Speaking of Section two of the order calls to quote
unquote aggressively combat critical health challenges such as quote the
rising rates of mental health disorders and diabetes. So RFK
has been a number of statements that are worrying, which
is just a blanket statement that I can make, but
specifically talking about how to treat diabetes with like, you know,
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lifestyle changes and like in changing your diet habits and
like a whole bunch of extremely worrying stuff. Section five
of the order states that with one hundred days This
new commission, made up of the heads of thirteen various
agencies and chaired by RFK Junior, is supposed to submit
their findings that quote assess the threat that potential over
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utilization of medication, certain food ingredients, certain chemicals, and certain
other exposures posed to children. And assess the prevalence of
and threat posed by the prescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, antipsychotics,
mood stabilizers, stimulants, and weight loss drugs unquote the idea
(18:47):
that we're going to be trying to take away people's
antipsychotics while also making handguns more available across the country.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yes, more children with handguns, less children on antipsychotics.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Like, but like this is this is targ getting like
depression medication, mood stabilizers, meds for ADHD, you know, like antipsychotics.
And then also you know, lines about certain chemicals absolutely
being like an anti vaccine dog whistle.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Also also we have to mention to the diabetes part
of this. Yeah, where that is uh an unbelievably alarming
thing for for him to be say, Yeah, it's pretty
bad because like the thing about diabetes is you don't
have to feel like your body can't, like literally can't
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physically fucking process shit. You can't actually solve that with exercise.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Like yeah, and like I'll just say, like I've worked
in diabetes education in the past, right, and in various
nonprofit capacities. Not that kind of doctor, but I have
seen the people who have died because they have been
subjected to this kind of bullshit. Like I know the
people who have lost children and loved ones because of this.
And it is heartbreaking to think that somebody, no, somebody
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trying to make money would like to someone about their health.
And the people who are most vulnerable to this are
the people who are also already struggling to access healthcare
and access medications, and it is disgusting to see the
government pushing this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
On Tuesday, r K Junior made his first official statement
since being confirmed, promising that quote nothing is going to
be off limits unquote in his quest to make America
healthy again, telling Health and Human Services staffers quote, some
of the possible factors we will investigate were formally taboo
or insufficiently scrutinized unquote, And then, according to Politico, RFK
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Junior suggests that he would direct HHS to investigate antidepression, drugs,
ultra processed food, electromagnetic radiation, and the herbicide glysophate. So
that seems to be some of their first targets.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Four G, five G cell tower shit great.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Great, yeah, yeah, no, Now I am excited for people
to both not have food and also not have adderall. Uh.
That's that's really going to make quite an interesting mob.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Our economy is going to crash if they if they
remove adderall, this whole country is going to cake.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
If we are going to see stockbrokers leaping out of
windows at rates unheard.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Of, it's that stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
We are simply going to move to an economy that
is entirely based on the consumption of cocaine and meth
like one of these things is going to happen.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That's true. Adderall is going to be worth more by
weight than gold. People. Vans will be the new legal currency.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
I'm gonna start store them like pepper corns.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I bought a house with two months of vivants.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Lastly, before we go on, break borders are Tom Homan
has been on a crusade against AOC and others for
holding Know Your Rights trainings specifically informing constituents, including legal
citizens who are being harassed by ICE that you do
not need to open the door. If ICE knocks on
your door, you can ask them to leave, You can
stay silent. You don't need to share personal information. You
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have the right to speak with an attorney, and you
do not need to sign anything or hand over any documents.
So there's been you know, like webinars and trainings informing
people of their rights. And this is really upset borders
our Tom Homan who last week went on Fox News
to accuse AOC of impediment, which is not a real word. Yes,
(22:31):
and he announced that he has directed or has asked
the DOJ and the Deputy Attorney General to investigate AOC
for interfering with ICE actions by simply educating people about
their rights. I have a clip here I'm going to
play in the podcast with Homan on Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
When does it cross a line into aiding and embedding
law breaking?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
It wouldn't have to have direct involvement by her in
helping people to evade ICE.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
That's exactly the question I pull go to the deput
Attorney General. I asked them to look into I says,
I you know, I know I through my career, someone
steps in front of it, in between you and the
personal rest and your repeating yeah, that's a violation. But
what point do you cross line on saying you're educating
people versus your teaching howled bade ice wrest. So I've
asked that question to the Department of Justice for clear
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guidance so I can share that with the officers advice.
So we're looking for that, uh, clear direction so we
can start taking action. And people don't want to invade,
who want to help educate these people to evade ice.
So hopefully any day now we get that guidance sent
out to the field.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Let's turn this over to discussion. James, I'm sure, I'm
sure you have some thoughts on this.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, look, this is the kind of foundational to the
Constitution rights access to an attorney, the right to an attorney,
And it's again something that like even under Biden, that
the DHS have been taking a swing at. Specifically, we've
done an episode last year about transferring detained people in
ice custom away from their attorneys. Right in this most
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cases it was people from California, specificlarly San Diego, County
because San Diego County had a program that funded some
attorney access and moving them to Texas. So like you're
either going to bleed that program dry flying attorneys to
Texas or have them do it over a phone call.
But a lot of these people who are detained because
they come from dictatorial countries don't feel like phone calls
are secure, and so they're they're not really going to
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feel comfortable talking to their attorney on a phone call.
We've done a whole episode about.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
That, you can go back and listen to it, and
like this is very basic Fourth Amendment stuff and that
this this applies to you whether or not you were
a citizen, and this applies.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
To you if you are in this country.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, you have these rights.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
And it is within ices and the Tom Holman's interests
to make people not realize that they actually do have
rights regardless of their immigration status.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah. Absolutely, Like they're not gonna tell you, necessarily, right
what rights you have. No, they're not going to tell
you they don't have the right to enter your house.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Police want to enter your home and if you open
the door, they but you do not need to open
the door. And like this is like very basic stuff
of informing people, really getting on Tom Homan's nervous. He's
been on news like five times the past week to
specifically complain about AOZ. He really wants sort of get
arrested for this thing that's not a crime.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of what they're going forward throughout, right,
But like I know, for instance, in California, lots of
universities have these like know your Rights cards accessible that
you can have them in your lectures and give them
out your students so they can take them regardless of
citizenship status, right, which is generally the way to approach
this right with a with an agnostic approach to citizenship. Correct,
you don't certainly want to be holding a if you're
(25:37):
undocumented come to this thing at this time and will
give you a know your Right session like that. That
is not a smart way to approach this. But yeah,
like immigration agnostic know your rights trainings, they're kind of
foundational to to like constitutional rights that they're pretty much
front and center.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Of things you're allowed. Do you know what else is
front center advertisements? That's right, it's in their article twenty two.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
It's like they they can't put the soldiers in your
bedroom unless that's once hit by.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, look depending on the soldier.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
All Right, we are back, Mia. It's a time for
tariff talk. Yeah, time of tariff Talk.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Tariff Talk. Dan Will inserts a little little musical jingle
here for tariff Talk.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Daniel.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I'll not but an editor on this podcast for years, but.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Sure, tariff Talk, Tariff Talk talking about terriff.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Tariff talk with me a walk.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I thought Garrison said turf talk in a Canadian way.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It was like very different podcast, much more cursing.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Why not Mia, Mia, tariff Talk. Okay, Okay, I got
a through line, which is that Trump is announcing that
he's going to maybe sign an executive order to put
into effect more terriffs. One of those is pharmaceuticals, which
would actually would actually like possibly impact shashy your healthcare.
So there's my tie in. Okay, But those the main
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things is auto imports like computer chips and pharmaceuticals are
supposed to get we think in April like a twenty
five percent terri if. It's again unclear whether these will
go into effecting break but I think it's worth noting
this because and this is something I haven't seen anyone
put together for reasons that are absolutely baffling to me.
But I actually think that a big part of the
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pharmaceutical like tariff threat here is specifically to threaten Denmark
into selling Greenland because one of Denmark's largest companies is
nov and Nordius, who would get absolutely colossally fucked by this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And so we sort of have to look at all
of these in the context of, like what kinds of
negotiations are going on. That chips one is pretty obviously
like a China Taie one one, although the cars, the
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auto import one, I think is specific pretty specifically it's
it's all auto imports. I think it's pretty specifically targeted
at Mexico because there's a whole bunch of auto like
like full car imports from Mexico. But yeah, twenty five
percent tariffs. Will see exactly what happens with this round
of negotiations, but who knows they might go into effect.
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This might also be part of the push to the
US to seize Greenland. This is also less of a
Trump thing, but I think it's worth noting the sort
of seriousness that both the kind of the people around
Trump and also like the media in Canada is taking
like a potential US attempt to just like sees Canada like,
oh yeah, like they might really do that.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Oddly enough, this push from Trump might actually help catalyze
the anti conservative movement in Canada, which has kind of
been trending conservative the past ten years.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, and Trump's actions have really upset the country, even
the conservative factions. Yeah, you're seeing support for the Liberals swell,
which has been like in like rapid decline for the
past five years. So it's actually causing a pretty big
shake up in Canadian politics right now, which I'm sure
I'll do an episode on in the future.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
There's even I don't know if it'll it's going things
are going to change enough to have a big influence.
They probably won't on the next German election, but AfD
saw its first drop and support in a while after
JD Vance endorsed them. Still doesn't have any juice we
except send them to the UK.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
We could kill reform now send it to the UK.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, God, how I would love to see that.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I wish to get back on the war on Woke front.
I like to talk about attempts to purge DEI gone wrong.
Specifically in OSHA, who has now trashed a workplace of
safety guidelines by banning and removing like eighteen workplace like
training and safety publications for a popular info Now. Some
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of these documents have been removed for just containing the
word like gender wow, like in one case, about how
patients might need different treatments based.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
On their gender or age.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
This list of banned documents also include a document from
twosand and nine that instructs employers on how to quote
unquote protect their EMS responders from becoming additional victims while
on the front line of medical response unquote. The alleged
reason for removal is because the document contains a sentence
about how EMT workers work under quote unquote diverse conditions
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and that EMT agencies have a quote diversity of state
specific certification, training, and regulatory requirements.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
There was also a special education program dedicated to helping
young adult special ed kids transition into the workforce that
got cut, and the suspicion is because it was a
child program that included the word transition.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Like.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We're not going to know for a while the precise reason,
but all of this lines up pretty well well.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I mean, I'm sure it would also be removing programs
with the word disability.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Frankly like yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean, and they're
doing that elsewhere too.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I just yeah, And this is affecting a huge number
of agencies, right, We could do we probably will do
whole episodes on this. I've been collecting a whole bunch
of resources in a document called the War on Woke,
which eventually I will turn into an episode. This is
manifested in otherwise as well. There's now disclaimers on the
target HIV and the CDC website, which now reads the
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CDC's website. It's being modified to comply with President Trump's
executive orders, and specifically, on pages related to sexual health,
there is a big like a top banner reading quote.
Per court order, HHS is required to restore this website.
As of eleven fifty nine pm February fourteen, twenty twenty five,
any information on this page promoting gender ideology is extremely
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inaccurate and disconnected from the immutable biological reality that there
are two sexes, male and female. The Trump administration rejects
gender ideology and condemns the harms it causes to children
by promoting their chemical and surgical mutilation and to women
by depriving them of their dignity, safety, well being, and opportunities.
This page does not reflect biological reality, and therefore the
administration and this department rejects it out. So even though
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they've been ordered to have these web pages, it's still online.
They are basically defacing the web pages with these with
these notes from the Trump team.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah. That also, by the way, and the extent to
which this matters is basically zero because they don't give
a shit with the court say, but like, that's also
a violation of the court order. Pretty much. They did
not put up the website as it was at the
time were specified for. They have put new bullshit into it.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Like, but speaking of violating court orders, the Trump administration
told a judge in a Tuesday court filing that it
will not comply with the TRORO directing USAIDED and the
State Department to resume foreign aid funding, stating that quote
USAYED intends to terminate instruments that the administrator determines are
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inconsistent with the national interests or usaide's mission. And it
tries to argue that this is like in line with
usaide's you know, lawful ability to operate. So they are
just like blatantly, blatantly defying a judge's order, as we've
talked about how they seem to be wanting to and
continuing to do for the past like four weeks. More
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on that in the weeks to come, as this situation
you know, escalates through different appeals courts and you know,
will eventually probably reach some kind of final showdown with
the Supreme Court. Now, longtime Social Security official Michelle King
has quit the agency amid fights to prevent DOAGE from
accessing sensitive information. The Washington Post quoted Martin O'Malley, the
Social Security Commission under the Biden administration and a former
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Maryland governor, as saying, quote, at this rate, they will
break it, and they will break it fast, and there
will be an interruption of benefits.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Unquote.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Social Security is just one of the agencies that dog
is either gutting or has already gutted, and it's leading
to kind of a mass resignation not only of like
you know, probationary employees and like deferred resignation like letter employees,
right everyone who's receiving that fork in the road email,
but also just like top ranking like officials who've been
doing this their whole lives, who are quitting because now
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it's impossible for them to like do their job with
Musk's doge basically running all of these departments and determining
who can be hired who should be fired. In late January,
David Leibrick, the highest ranking civil servant at the Treasury Department,
was put on leave and then quit his job after
trying to stop dog from accessing data at the Bureau
of Fiscal Service. The head of the FDA's Food Division,
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Jim Jones, resigned last Monday, citing dough as inhibiting his
ability to run the department. And at least four deadly
plane crashes have happened this past month, actually five now
considering well one this morning. And then there's also that
whole upside down Delta flight from Minneapolis to Toronto. And
this is all happening amidst the Trump admins mass firing
(34:39):
of several hundred probationary employees at the FAA, an already
understaffed agency. And this past Monday, a team from SpaceX
arrived at the Air Traffic Control headquarters in Virginia to
begin the process of overhauling the control system.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Great cool.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Luckily SpaceX has had no notable incidents and so I'm
sure that will be fine.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
No, they didn't just hide a racket going off.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
There's there's good news. There is there is good news
on this front, which is that President Trump is very
very mad that his new Boeing like plane is like
his personal plane. For like, I think it's I think
it's like another air Force one or something isn't.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Coming fast enough.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
So's he's now encouraging them to like do a rush
job on it and like let people in doing the
right security clearances. So so this whole thing critical support
to Boeing. Critical Boeing, you motherfuckers, you have one job, mister,
produced an airplane at your normal quality and standards.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Similar to that on February thirteenth, that an air Force
plane carrying Secretary of State Mark Rubio was forced to
turn around en route from Washington to Munich after the aircraft,
a converted Boeing seven fifty seven, experienced a mechanical issue
ninety minutes into the flight, so they were forced to
turn around. So again, critical support to Boeing. I only
wish them the best in securing more and more government contracts.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Absolutely, you know, I think we uh uh I actually
we would probably call it as an episode before I
make any more jokes about air travel.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Which is increasingly scary. I flew so much last year,
and I am less willing to now.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I do not want to. Now that said, it is
worth noting. I think there's two things that are worth noting.
One is most of what people are pointing out as
like scary crashes are crashes that the same number happened
to this point last year. When it comes to like
small aircraft, yeah, those are much more dangerous than cars
like tiny personal aircraft, which is why I always enjoy
(36:34):
at cees when they try to sell cars less regulated
flying cars.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
But I also think from a political standpoint, no, we
should actually absolutely every single plane crash, even if it's
a tiny plane crashing and not tied to the greater
shit with the FAA, all of them should go on
Trump's head. It's not about what's true, it's about what
you can use to make political hay. And this is
something that you can hurt Republicans with. Every time someone
(37:00):
eyes in a plane crash, lay it at their feet, right, Like,
what do you get from being honest.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And it has been one of the more deadly monks
in aviation. H Yeah, specifically for like American soil.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
They're definitely going to get people killed. But like the
way that you do that is not wait until okay,
this is finally the one that it's fair to attack.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you make it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
You make every time this gets in the news, you
make it on their head.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You know, it's certainly not helping, right that, Like the
FAA was already understuffed, Like as as you said, people
were already dying in plane crashes. Taking stuff away from
the FAA is not helping, Like we can't isolate that
from every crash that happens.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
And like it's it's not just that, it's also like
the continued they continued hiring freeze. Largely air traffic control
operators have not been affected by the firings. Other support
staff have, which are still just as crucial. But it's
also preventing them from hiring more air traffic controllers, which
they need to because it's so understaff, which actually does
lead to an increase of these like small plane collisions.
(38:00):
And this is this is like a similar pattern across
all departments. Though, the USDA announced on Tuesday that over
the weekend they accidentally fired several agency employees who are
working on the bird flu response as a result of
the Trump Doge mass firings and now and now USDA
is trying to rehire them.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Have we explained the provisional employee firing thing that they're
doing for all.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Of these on here yet you should explain what a
probational employee is.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, yeah, it's employees that I've been hired for less
than a year and have different protections than other career employees.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
And part of Doge's campaign to do like massive massive
layoffs across all government sectors is by targeting first of
all probationary employees because they're easiest to fire, and then
move on to career employees. And like this this is
just like the first batch of mass layoffs because they're
the easiest to do. They don't have like union negotiations,
they can't appeal the firing. So this is like the
(38:57):
first step in a larger series of events that will
lead to, you know, a severely reduced government workforce. And
like this situation with the USDA is a very similar
situation with the Nuclear Strategy employees who the government is
struggling to rehire because they lost contact information with them
after firing them.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
They fired the Duke Police.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
They fired the guys whose job is to transport and
make sure no one steals nuclear weapons. I cannot have
the one kind of cop we can all agree we
need as long as we keep having those things.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
This is one of these things where it's like like
I've been saying, not even really as a joke, that
millions of people are going to die from this, but
like yeah, like if these people are not stopped, oh,
you will have a broken arrow. We are like two
months into this. This is the second time they have
tried to fire the nuke Police, and they actually succeeded
this time. Right, Like millions of people are going to die,
(39:55):
and they lost their phone number. They can't even call
them back, Like they don't don't the numbers of the security,
Like these people must be stopped from doing this or
or we are going to see a cataclysm that is
going to make the fucking pandemic look like a fucking joke.
Like we're all going to look fondly back on like
the year we spent in lockdown and a million who
(40:17):
died as like the fucking like smoking remains of seven
American cities.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I have an episode on this that I'll put out
at some point. But you're getting to a thing that
I've been worried about for a while, Mia, which is,
we are every day getting closer and closer to a
nuclear January sixth. And what I mean by that is
an incident in which a nuclear weapon gets it either
gets utilized or gets out of the control of its
(40:43):
proper handlers in a way that is dumb. In the
same way January sixth to us. So I'm not talking
about you have like an actual military conflict between Russia
and the United States. I'm talking about something really fucking stupid,
Like I'm talking about something incomprehensibly silly. And yeah, millions
of people will at least potentially die.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Well, what another uplifted episode of it could happen here?
Speaker 5 (41:07):
Happen here? Stop them now, they're week right now, before
they do this, they could only get stronger.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, well, until someone else gets a nuke, then general
bets are off.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like I said, if you are someone who has been
fired from the federal government, we're transporting a nuke. I
have a large backyard and cool Zone would would love
to become a nuclear power.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Also unrelated, we have a tip email James want to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
For legal reasons, this is a joke. We do not
want any nukes. It is cool Zone Tips at proton
dot me. You can contact us there. It is proton
man is encrypted. That only means that the mail is
encrypted if you send from a Protony email address to
a Protony email address. None of that means that you
had necessarily one hundred percent secure, but it's the best
(41:55):
option that we have for right now. If you'd like
to reach out to us, please feel free to do so.
Cool Zone Tips at proton dot me.
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