November 7, 2025 • 59 mins
The gang discuss the election of Zohran Mamdani and California’s redistricting. Plus updates on immigration, tariffs, and air travel issues.
Fundraiser: www.weallwegotsd.com/donate
Sources:
https://www.texasobserver.org/texas-dps-287g-ice-trump-abbott/
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71875910/1/tangipa-v-newsom/
https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/11/proposition-50-overnight-results/
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115492361756063244
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/522166327/202133199349305758/full
https://archive.vn/uxkws#selection-799.0-808.0
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5588695-abbott-tariffs-new-yorkers-texas-election/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/04/us/elections/nyc-mayor-results-precinct-map.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/05/zohran-mamdani-victory-speech-transcript
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Cold Zone Media.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Am I introducing the podcast. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
This is It Could Happen Here Executive Disorder, our weekly
news cast covering what's happening in the White House, the
crumbling world what it means for you.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I'm Garrison Davis.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Today I'm joined by Mio Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.
This episode recovering the week of October thirty first to
November fifth, one of the most exciting weeks in politics.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Yeah, because it's onon finite if.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You remember the poem that's right, And that's not the
only exciting thing to happen, but also not the only
sad thing to happen this week, because as exciting as
election Day was for people in New York, there was
like a looming sadness throughout the day because earlier that morning, obviously,
Vice President Dick Cheney passed away and that was rough
(00:58):
for many people, not rough many others, but that certainly
was illuming presence over the day. Does anyone have any
words to say on the passing of mister Cheney.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just want to let everyone in
hell know this too shall pass. You know, you won't
be stuck with him forever. Just try to grin and
bear it. I know it's going to be hard for
a lot of you, especially Saddam Hussein, but I know
you can get past this. You know, he will get
reincarnated as a Senate Republican staffer within the next six
(01:30):
to eight months, so so you won't have to put
up with him long.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I guess this is also just your reminder that it's
going to date to practice see full essential rooms of
firearms safety at old times.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Don't shoot with Dick Cheney if you see Dick Cheney
while you're hunting quail?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Do the kids even know about this?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Now? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
The kid the kids know? The kids? No?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Cheney Laura is permeated throughout generations of American culture.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
When I was a kid, there was like a whole
thing where we all thought the song Jamie's Got a
Gun was Cheney's Got a gun.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
In front of excess.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Because it just lined up with everything you knew about
the world.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What's funny about it is that my actual thinking on
that shooting hasn't changed since I was a Republican kid.
Like when I was a young right winger, I thought, Wow,
Dick Cheney's so cool. He shot a man and got
him to apologize to him, And now as an adult
on the left, I still think that's kind of the
coolest thing Dick.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Cheney ever did. Like it is a head of a feat.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That man apologized for getting in front of his sights.
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Now it is.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It is unfortunate that Dick Cheney did not live to
see the election of Zormumdani as the mayor of New
York City, which happened, and that would have been funny
on Tuesday. Later that day, Zoran has become the first
candidate in New York mayoral history to win over a
million votes since nineteen sixty nine. Nice this election itself
(03:14):
saw over two million votes. This is a million more
votes in the last in New York mayoral election.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Huge turnout.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Currently, as of Wednesday afternoon, Zoran has fifty point four
percent of the vote. Former governor and sexual assaults enthusiast
Andrew Cuomo, running as an independent, has forty one point
six percent, and the bray wearing Curtisilwa as seven point one.
(03:44):
Not a spoiler candidate in many ways, nor would it
be correct to say that all of Silver's votes would
have gone to one candidate or another. But even if
you do add all of his votes on to disgraced
former Governor Andrew Cuomo's total zoron still comes out on
top well.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Which was something that there was legitimately a lot of
question about as to like whether or not will Sila
staying in matter?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Uh, And it's it's a really good sign that it didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It did not Sliwa. So no one really knows how
to pronounce the name, including in the city. You hear
it different pronunciations with different people at different times. Sometimes
it's Slilwa, sometimes it's Silwa saliwa.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All I know is he got stabbed on the subway, right.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And shot five times in the back of a cab
in the back. That's right. How did they fail to
kill him? Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's harder to kill people by shooting them with a
handgun than you might think.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, apparently hanggum ballistics are just different.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yes, and he does have seventeen cats.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
He ran on the Republican and the Protected the Protect
Animals party. You can have some criticism for for past
ills that that he has contributed to, but he is
certainly mixed up for that some way.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
For being a fascinating character.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
He's a very New York kind of figure.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Ed.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
He was the only mayor all candidate to call and
congratulate Zora Mom Donnie last night. Both Clobo and Mayor
Adams did not call Mamdani, but Curtis did, which is
kind of beautiful. It's kind of beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He's a classy man. You don't get to wear a
red beret like that unless you have some manners.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
The British Parachute Regiment would beg to disagree about having
nanas and wearing red hats.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, he's my head cannon now is that he is
the British paratrooper.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Just drop him in with seventeen cats and he and
he starts milling immediately.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, he saves that fucking mall in Nairobi.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Or tell you what, the Argentines wouldn't have funcked with
the Falklands of Curtis and being there now with all
those cats. That's where he's going now that he's been
banished in New York like piss.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Guys, shouldn't take this just.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
An island, Yeah, Staten Island, which.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You're you're a real New Yorker now Gary, you shed
on Staten.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Island, which is the only borough that went for Cuomo,
where he was up thirty three points.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
That was very funny.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Mamdani won every other bureau up twenty in Brooklyn, up
ten in Manhattan, of five in Queens and eleven in
the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
From what this should tell everyone everywhere in the country
about what is possible in politics, even in times as
dark as this is that he was what eight percent
a year ago?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
They six percent, it's like in January, six percent in January.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And he he didn't just eke it out because there
were a shitload of guys. This isn't like an Arnold
thing where everybody's on the fucking ballot and it's like
a crazy cartoon election. He legitimately votes nowhere and one.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The most votes for a mayor old candidate in almost
fifty years. Yeah, nearly reaching the the like the vote
totals in this election for like a presidential election in
the city.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, it's very impressive for like a mid cycle off
cycle election turnout wise, yep.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Specifically, he won a whole bunch of votes that he
did not gain the primary. Among uh, some like black
and Latino voters. You can see that in the turnout
at like the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And these these people aren't overwhelmingly at least at this stage,
folks who have been convinced of every aspect of ideology
that Zorn has ever put out there. People who looked
at who was available are like, this guy seems like
he genuinely wants to do something. Yeah, and they told
me to the specific policies. They're not they're not paying
attention to the fact that he quoted Eugene V. Debs.
(07:43):
They're talking, they're listening to his his policies on like
creating municipal grocery stores and stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Right, it's about affordability, not ideology. And Zorn's strict focus
on affordability not running a campaign that like falls back
on fear, not running a campaign about foreign policy when
you're in fucking New York City. Strict focus on affordability
was the key to winning this campaign.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
A strict focus on affordability while not pretending not to
have the ideology, which is also really not worthy. Right
where he's still he's still he isn't he's not like
talking around it, right.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
No, he's not apologizing or hiding the fact that he's
a democratic socialist. Yeah, and this produced some super interesting
results if you if you refer back to the last
election twenty twenty four and in everyone bemoaning like, how
how come young men are so politically lost? Why are
they all going so far to the right? Sixty eight
(08:39):
percent of men age eighteen to twenty nine goes to mom, Donnie,
sixty six percent of men thirty to forty forty five
percent of men forty five to sixty five. Among women
eighteen to twenty nine years old, eighty four percent.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Donnie Booking said, dom number larious bath party election numbers one.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Actually Saddam Hussein out to Creedy did in fact vote,
but he went for He broke hard for Cuomo. Honestly
at the end, it was the sex crimes that that
that that did it for UNI did vote for Slowa
though that was kind of weird. I'm gonna be honest
with you. We're all trying to parse that one out.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
It's a cat thing.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, like I said, like not hiding his political inspirations
in any way, quoted Eugen Debs ten seconds into his
victory speech. Yeah, immediately you understand, like, oh, this guy's
like player, he knows what's up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Eugene V. Debs, the socialist who ran for president from prison. Yeah, yes,
for to know who Eugene V. Debs is, like arguably
the most radical national candidate who has ever existed in
this country.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, and his speech was extremely poetic. It got a
very strong positive reaction from the people who I watched
this with in Bushwick, which was the district that was
the most pro Mamdani out of the entire electoral mathemicity.
But he started by talking about how power has been
kept out of the hands of working people by the
(10:09):
hands that keep the city going by lifting boxes, by
gripping the handlebars of delivery bikes, and collecting burned scars
from cooking food.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Over the last twelve months, you have dared to reach
for something greater tonight, against all odds, we have grasped it.
The future is in our hands unquote. The whole speech
was kind of a rife with little like metaphors and
allegories like that.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It was very cute.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Went on to discuss how the campaign toppled a political
dynasty and gave one of the most like fine tuned
dishes I've ever seen quote, I wish Andrew Cuomo only
the best in private life.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's a phenomenal cook.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But I hope I never have to say his name.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Again, or but let tonight be the last time I
utter his name.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Only the best in private life is down.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's basically this is like, he's
not the originator of this particular kind of disc It
goes back a while, but the gist is like everyone's
moment be a family man, get out of a way.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Repeatedly, Mam, Donnie has has used the word mandate to
describe this selection and the results.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
New York has delivered a mandate for change, a mandate
for a new kind of politics, mandate for a city
we can afford, a mandate for a government that delivers
exactly that. I'm going to play a short clip here.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Thank you to the next generation of New Yorkers who
refused to accept that the promise of a better future
was a relic of the past. You showed that when
politics speaks to you without condescension, we can usher in
a new era of leadership. We will fight for you
(12:02):
because we are you, or as we say on Steinway
an amincom wile.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Coum the Arabic there wild wild that we've moved this
far in New York that it's in credit wins you
an election Like that didn't win him the election, but
like they really tried the nine to eleven shit. Rudy
Giuliani posted today a crude photoshop of his own face
(12:31):
in the fires of the twin of the burning twin towers. Yeah,
we forgot written across it, and that did None of
that shit did anything.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The last month of the campaign against Mamdani, whether that's
from people like Bill Accurate as Bloomberg or Cuomo's actual team,
has has used what people have been calling the nine
to eleven card, incessantly playing clips of nine to eleven
with like zoron like emblazon, like over overtop plank from
Hassan talking about nine to eleven. But the Islamophobia that
(13:04):
the Cuomo campaign has resorted to as a last ditch
effort to stop Mamdani has been despicable, And the fact
that this did not scare Momdanni into like hiding or
like restricting that part of himself is incredibly admirable.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, but they wasn't just nine to eleven, right, like
you said, it was the broad Islam, like they deployed
as they always do, like every urban area in Britain
is now like the Caliphate, like this bullshit that that
exists only in the American conservative mind and it failed,
which is.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Good specifically for a lot of the speech, it was
about juxtaposing like how we used to have good things
in the past, like we have this idea that like
good things now are always out of reach, and juxtaposing
this like idea of like hope or or like past
exceptionalism that we just don't feel like we've access to anymore,
and showing that if you actually involve young people, we
(13:54):
can actually do do good things in our city now.
And I really liked the line about like politics that
speaks to you without condescension, and how much this campaign
was like ran by and for you know, young candidates
and young voters.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Went on to thank the people who have been forgotten
by the politics of our city and how they've supported
his campaign quote Yemeni bodega owners and Mexican ubuelas, Sengalese
taxi drivers and Uzbek nurses, Trinidadian line cooks, and Ethiopian
aunties unquote, and he went on to mention the kind
(14:31):
of people that this campaign is about, and towards the
end of that section, he talked about the hunger strike
that he participated in four years ago in order to
win debt relief for cab drivers, And it's about people.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Like Richard the taxi driver I went on a fifteen
day hunger strike with outside of city hall, who still
has to drive his cab seven.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Days a week.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
My brother, we are in city hall.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
That is that is the energy of like the campaign
in the city right now. Like that that sort of framing,
and that's the energy that people are like carrying.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Through I saw among the right wing fever spawns responses
to this, Mike Cernovich taking a clip from the election
night party where one of the people who is attending
Zoran's party made a comment about how like white people
need to get on board with the idea that like
our culture is multiculturalism in this country right, Like it's
it's not anything else, Like that's that's like what has
(15:36):
made America. And Mike did not react well to that.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I can't imagine the declaration of wars and Avich mad, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But no, like especially in New York, out of like
anywhere in the country, like, especially in New York like,
the culture is made through the mix of immigrants that
have built this city, and this is something that discussed throughout.
Zaran went on to thank the one hundred thousand campaign
volunteers and specifically how their efforts quote eroded the cynicism
(16:07):
that has come to define our politics.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I liked that line, and.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Then he asked New Yorkers to breathe this moment in quote.
We have held our breath for longer than we know.
We have held it in anticipation of defeat, held it
because the air has been knocked out of our lungs
too many times to count, held it because we cannot
afford to exhale. Thanks to all of those who have
sacrificed so much, we are breathing in the air of
facity that has been reborn. There are many who thought
(16:33):
this day would never come, who feared we would be
condemned only to a future of less, with every election
consigning us to simply more of the same. And there
are others who see politics today as too cruel for
the flame of hope to still burn New York. We
have answered those fears unquote.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
And while we cast our ballots alone. We chose hope together,
hope over tyranny, hope over big money and small ideas,
hope over despair. We won because New Yorkers allowed themselves
(17:13):
to hope that the impossible could be made possible. And
we won because we insisted that no longer would politics
be something that is done to us. Now it is
something that we do. Standing before you, I think of
(17:40):
the words of Juan lal Nehru. A moment comes but
rarely in history, when we step out from the old
to the new, when an age ends, and when the
soul of a nation long suppressed finds utterance. Tonight we
have stepped out from the old into the new.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The line about politics not being something that's done to you, yeah, yeah,
that really outlines how politics has felt in this country
for as basically as long as I can remember. He
then outlined what his central agenda to tackle the cost
of living crisis is, including freezing the rent for more
than two million rits, timbolized tenants, making buses faster and free,
(18:25):
and delivering universal childcare across the city, saying quote, this
will be an age where New Yorkers expect from their
leaders a bold vision of what we will achieve, rather
than a list of excuses for what we are too
timid to attempt. Let's go on a quick break and
we will come back to talk a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
About the election.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
All right, we're back.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
During the second half of this speech, Zoron turned to
address Donald Trump. Right this looming thing across politics nationwide,
but specifically New York, as Trump has threatened to start
to fuck with New York even more if Zoron is
elected and people in New York know this. And about
halfway through, Zoron addressed Trump directly, which we will get
(19:23):
to you in a sec But before he directly talked
to Trump, in this speech, Zoron laid out what types
of people the city government will be focusing on protecting
from Trump's division and hate.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
In this new age we make for ourselves, we will
refuse to allow those who traffic in division and hate
to pit us against one another in this moment of
political darkness. New York will be the light here leave
(20:00):
in standing up for those we love. Whether you are
an immigrant, a member of the trans community, one of
the many black women that Donald Trump is fired from
a federal job, a single mom still waiting for the
cost of groceries to go down, or anyone else with
(20:24):
their back against the wall. Your struggle is ours two.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Specifically, I like this idea of in the darkened political moment,
this United States is in New York and the Zorn
administration and how that reflects New York and general though
will be a beacon for the rest of the country.
And naming like the trans community is like the second
group mentioned there was heavily appreciated in the Bushwick Trans
(20:55):
Watch party that.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I was at.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Zorah went on to say that quote, no more will
New York be a city where you can traffic in
Islamophobia and win an election. This new age will be
defined by a competence and a compassion that have too
long been placed in odds with one another. We will
prove that there is no problem too large for government
to solve and no concern too small for it to
care about. Tens of millions of dollars have been spent
(21:20):
to redefine reality and to convince our neighbors that this
new age is something that should frighten them. As has
often occurred, the billionaire class has sought to convince those
making thirty dollars an hour, that their enemies are those
earning twenty dollars an hour. They want the people to
fight amongst ourselves so that we remain distracted from the
work of remaking along broken system. Together, we will usher
(21:41):
in a generation of change. And if we embrace this
brave new course, rather than fleeing from it, we can
respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism with the strength it fears,
not the appeasement it craves.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
I think this whole section is something very important, and
this has been something that's been very consistent about Donnie's
entire campaign, which is there's been on the left for
a very very long time, a just interminable, intractable conflict
between this idea of like purely focusing on class politics
or talking about race. And but I think what Montdammi
(22:17):
is doing here ha's been very effective, right, is you
can just do both. And in fact, as the left
over the last you know, sort of senses kind of
the reemergence of this kind of left in like twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, as it's gone on, it's gotten less white,
it's gotten more to verse, has gotten more multicultural, and
it's been able to fuse these two things together, and
(22:37):
it's been able to fuse that with just you know,
like being very very openly pro trans and like there
was you know, there's also a pretty big response that
I saw from people talking about the fact that he
specifically mentioned that it was black women who were being
fired by the Trump administration. Right, And you can just
do all these things together and it works, and it's
worked the whole time. And refusing to pit these things
(22:59):
against each other, like refusing to pit affordability against trans rights,
refusing to pit yes, yeah, you know, like fusing to
pit the politics of like defending and this is some
thing that like fucking Bernie is terrible at, right, where
like Bernie like has been like has a whole rant
about how Trump has been right on like we have
to reduce immigration, right, and you don't have to do that.
You can be pro immigrant, you can be protraned, you
(23:19):
can be pro black women, you can be you know,
and and you can also want everything to cost less,
and you can be in favor of the fact that
the US is a is a multicultural society and can
only function as one. And it's it's a winning form
of politics. And I'm glad we're finally getting there.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, and it will be great if this New York
City as a beacon can actually shine and not get
rectifled out in.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
These in these next four years.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Because Zorn is, unless unless things happen, will be the
mayor for the remainder of the Trump term, right like
this is he will be mayor after second Trump administration
is over, barring any unfortunate incident.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Make sure your private security is really good.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Way whoever ypd detail get your own guys. Yeah, it'll
be fine. But it also it means like like from
I guess a national perspective, it is likely that mom
Danny will become like the enemy number one of the
Trump administration, where they probably Newsome or prish Karan now right,
(24:30):
like it's it is easier because of the obvious bigotry
that underlies a lot of the Republican Party to go
after a brown dude. Yes, and that is what they
are going to do. And they're going to use.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Brown democratic socialists.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, who stands up for trans people and migrants. And
likely you saw how acceptable islamophobia is in Cuomo's campaign, right,
like you just go on to every mainstream network and
say shit, that it is fucking disgusting. Yeah, and so
we should prepare our sales for four more years of that,
I guess. And I think he does a very good
job of repudiating that, and obviously the electorate in New
(25:06):
York did too. But that is going to be what
we are going to see as a result of this.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Well.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
No, and like so much of the resistance to Zoron
came from this idea that if he wins, that means
that this is going to be what people point to
as a future for politics, specifically democratic politics, And a
lot of people wanted to stop him because they knew
that's going to happen. If he is in control of
the biggest city in the country as the Democratic mayor,
that's going to be influential for what democratic politics will
(25:34):
be after they got completely clobbered last year. And he's
showing that a different type of politics is possible, even
even within the Democratic Party. And that's that's true, like
altering what the party is fundamentally, Yeah, and I think
it's it is. It is a cool little side note
that Zoron voted for himself on the Working Families party
line and in fact not the Democratic Party line. Becau's
(25:57):
called the New York mayoral ballot's work. I'm gonna pay
one more clip from the speech of Zorn, specifically addressing Trump.
It's going to be a teeny bit longer, and I
think we'll cut We'll shorten some of the applause bits
because some of the applause sections gone for quite long.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
But this will be the last club.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
After all, if anyone can show a nation betrayed by
Donald Trump how to defeat him, it is the city
that gave rise to him. And if there is any
way to terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the
very conditions that allowed him to accumulate power. This is
(26:42):
not only how we stopped Trump, it's how we stop
the next one. So, Donald Trump, since I know you're watching,
I have four words for you. Turn the volume up.
We will hold bad landlords to account because the Donald
(27:05):
Trumps of our city have grown far too comfortable taking
advantage of their tenants.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
We will put an end to.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
The culture of corruption that has allowed billionaires like Trump
to evade taxation and exploit tax breaks. We will stand
alongside unions and expand labor protections because we know, just
as Donald Trump does that when working people have ironclad rights,
(27:33):
the bosses who seek to extort them become very small. Indeed,
New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city
built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and as of tonight,
led by an immigrant. So hear me, President Trump, when
(27:55):
I say this, to get to any of.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Us, you will have to get through all of us.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
The ship rocks.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
It's good, it's good.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool for a mayor
alection to.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Say that he didn't manage to get in the New
York is the anchora of America, which I was hoping
for them.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Otherwise, great, that's Eric Adams this bit.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah, yeah, sad day for sad day for Turkey today.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
I guess on an actually important note, I think it
is really important that you know, all of this energy
against Trump, right and against all the shit that he's
doing that's so hideously unpopular, it's starting to be channeled
into politics that can actually defeat him. Yeah, and that
are actually good, you know, and that he's talking about
specifically the fact that you have to deshoy the conditions
that created it and so they don't create the next
one like this fucking rocks.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
This is good.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah. For so long, like for I mean most of
the twenty sixteen to twenty twenty period and for a
lot of this year, we've seen so many people turn
the obvious disgust that people have a what Trump is
doing into grifts into some reporting of politics which fundamentally
allowed for the conditions we are in now, right, And
to see someone repudiate that and to see more than
(29:07):
a million people turn out to support that is fantastic.
Like it's genuinely hopeful.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's something like zoronas like acknowledge. It's like this is
not like the end, right, this is a means, not
the means either, Like this is this this is a
means to an end. And this whole campaign started, as
he's referred to it as a quote unquote electoral project
by the New York City DSA, Like this was largely
an experiment and an experiment that grew wildly, wildly kind
(29:36):
of out of what I assumed they kind of saw
it as in the earlier in the earlier days, and
now they're in this like moment and they have to
they have to keep rolling with it. But it is
it is an experiment for a a version of doing this,
and he knows this is not like the only method
or tactic to be utilized, but as as an experiment,
(29:56):
I think it's so far pretty well done now, as
is on closest speech by calling to chart a new
path as bold as the campaign has already been, saying
that conventional wisdom would claim that he is far from
the perfect candidate. Quote, I'm young, despite my best efforts
to grow older. I am Muslim, I am a democratic socialist,
and the most stabbing of all. I refuse to apologize
(30:18):
for any of this. And yet if tonight teaches us anything,
it is that convention has held us back. We have
bowed at the altar of caution. We have paid a
mighty price. Too many working people cannot recognize themselves in
our party, and too many among us have turned to
the right for answers to why they've been left behind.
(30:40):
We will leave mediocrity in our past. No longer will
we have to open a history book for proof that
Democrats can dare to be great. Our greatness will be
anything but abstract unquote, and he concludes by saying that
the greatness will be felt by rent stable ie tenants
who will wake up knowing they are rent hasn't sword
(31:02):
by grandparents who can afford to stay in their home
and whose grandchildren live nearby because the cost of childcare
is not driving them out of the city, And by
the single mothers who don't need to rush their kids
to school because they can commute to work on a
fast bus.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Most of all, it will be felt by each New
Yorker when the city they love finally loves them back unquote.
The stuff about like worshiping at the altar of caution
for like the past, the past like twenty more than twenty,
but especially the past like twenty years of like Democrat politics,
and how he is also recognizing that like this is
(31:39):
this could mark a fundamental shift in what the Democratic
Party actually is because the people Democrats included, who've been
trying to stop this have failed miserably so far, putting
tens of millions of dollars into a campaign to try
to crush crush this version of what the future of
New York Democrat politics is, and more people since nineteen
(31:59):
sixty nine showed up to deny that future. That's all
I have for Zoran right now, it's literally, you know
less than twenty four hours after the Yeah, but this
was not just a New York City mayoral election.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
There were there were other races, including other other things.
In New York.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
There was a Prop one amendment to the state Constitution
to retroactively authorize the winter sports facilities on Mount then Hovenburg,
which is protected forestland and would require the state at
two thousand, five hundred acres of newly protected land elsewhere
in the ad Ranak that's how I'm saying it at
Irondack Mountains. Yeah, which was passed, and this allows them
(32:43):
to continue to build and maintain the winter sports facility.
Propositions two through six were New York City Charter Amendments.
Two to four were housing reform proposals to fast track
the approval process for affordable housing and simplify zoning reviews
and establish an Affordable Housing Appeals Board.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
All of the passed.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
These will limit the ability of the City Council to
control and slow down housing development and empower the mayor
specifically to build more affordable units faster. And Prop five,
which also passed, creates a new digital methnic city. The
only prop to fail, which was Number six, was to
move local elections to be in line with presidential elections
on that four year basis. Basically, the ballot that Zorn
(33:23):
filled out himself was the one that passed for all
of these, all of these proposals.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Yeah, you get. They call it a coattails effect in
political science, right, like the idea that the.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
People announced his ballot that morning. He did not.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
He he didn't, and he didn't even announce it like
a journalist asked him what he was voting on. He
specifically did not advocate for any of these or or
try to dissuade anyone from any of these before the election.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, for sure. But you get a generally aligned politically electorate, right,
a relatively progressive in American terms, electorate coming out to
vote for him, who will look at these things and
say that seems to make sense with the way I
see the round.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Democrat Abigail Spenberger won the governor of Virginia flipping blue.
Jay Jones, a Democrat candidate for Virginia AG also beat
the Republican incumbent. This was after a month of attacks
for a series of text messages from twenty twenty two
where j Jones said that if certain Republican delegates died,
(34:25):
he would quote go to their funerals to piss on
their graves unquote, and wish for the hypothetical deaths of
Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert's children quote only would people
feel pain personally?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Do they move on policy?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil
and that they're breeding little fascists?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Unquote.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
That's also not really hipathetical deaths like he did in
a call with a with another Republican politician.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Then after the call, they continued texting about it. So
the proof is in these texts, and he is admitted this,
and basically he was like, Yeah, if these people's like
children were to get killed in mass shooting, maybe their
opinions on guns would change.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
That's essentially what he's expressing there.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
And then he also he also was.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Quoted in these leads text messages as saying, quote, three people,
two bullets, Virginia Huse Speaker Todd Gilbert Hitler, and Paul
Pott Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Spoiler put Gilbert in the crew.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
With sorry, just as an elected official, as an attorney general,
someone going to be a call that you put in
the fucking text message spoiler.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Put Gilberts in the crew with the two worst people
you know, and he receives both bullets every time. It's insane,
up sec hero, But that is the new attorney general.
That's a new Democrat Attorney general of Virginia who the
right has been attacking for quite for relentlessly the past month,
(36:05):
because you really fucked up.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
If you can't like, no, if you can't run attacks
on that guy, and you still.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
All of those jokes about the wine moms in the suburbs,
like wanting blood and like there looking at this Oh no,
hell yeah, yeah, give me four ward bullets will put
in this guy.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
It's pretty crazy. It's it's it's pretty astonishing.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Maine voted no sixty three percent on a voter restriction measure.
Voters extended the Democrat Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and the California
Redistricting Measure or Proposition passed with sixty three point eight percent.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
James, Yeah, do you have stuff on this?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:46):
So Prop fifty in California, California, it was like a
one issue ballot, right, you said the Prop fifty this
would temporarily redistrict I think people maybe have not been
like like often it gets missed, and it is temporarily
redistricting California until re establishing the non partisan committee that
does districting in twenty thirty one. For the twenty thirty
(37:07):
two those districts will come back, or that they will
return to a non partisan districting in twenty thirty two.
This is one of the most expensive propositions in state history.
One hundred and twenty million was spent in favor, forty
four million against. There was also outside money. Newsome already
(37:27):
called on New York, Illinois and other Democrat majority seats
to do the same. Right, it's going to likely remove
about five Republican seats, or those Republicans are going to struggle.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
One of them would be at ser Diego's Mountain Empire
and East County seat, which is currently the forty eighth.
That seat has been redistricted a few times, right, it's
moved around. It's currently Darryl ISO's seat. In response, California
Republicans have already filed a lawsuit. Suit was filed by
high Meet Dylan's law firm.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yayyay so Dyland of the party.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Dylan is in the Trump administration now.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
But yeah, Elean is in the Trump administration and occasionally
in my inbox making threats.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Fastic great, But with Dylan's law firm that that father
case right. The case has claimed that California drew the
new lines to quote specifically favor Hispanic voters, which it
is a similar claim to the Louisiana versus Calais. I
think Calais. There is the way they say it here
(38:35):
case which is currently before the Supreme Court, which the
Supreme Court seems to be suggesting it might be it
might be amenable to this argument right, that the consideration
of race in redistricting is discriminate free. Yesterday Trump truth
quoting here, the unconstitutional redistricting vote in California is a
(38:57):
giant scam. That part is in block capital as is characteristic.
The rest is sporadically capitalized. I'm going back to the
quote now, in the entire process, in particular, the voting
itself is rigged all quote mail in ballots where the
Republicans in that state are shut out. It's under very
serious legal and criminal review. Stay tuned. Yeah, you know,
(39:22):
fairly predictable what we talked about it last week. It's
not entirely possible for me to pass out that second sentence,
but I think we can see what direction is pushing in. Right.
This was predictable that this was going to happen, and
we'll keep you updated on it. Also predictable that we
would have to pivot to ads again, which is what
(39:43):
we're going to do now. And we are back a
little bit of immigration news this week, as always according
(40:03):
to report it, this is actually last week, but we
didn't have time for last week. Equalt remportant by CNN.
Trump claimed he was quote very much opposed to his
own administration's immigration raid on our HONDB plant in Georgia,
which obviously this is what he's saying to try and
get that foreign direct investment back in Georgia rape, because
it looks very much like Georgia is going to pay
pretty heavily for that raid. Unfortunately, another man lost his
(40:27):
life when fleeing ice officers last week. He seems to
have left a car that he was in and tempted
across a freeway where he was fatally struck by another car. Yeah,
that's the second time this has happened this year. Texas
acidned an agreement with a federal government to allow local
DPS officers to operate as ICE officers or technically to
(40:49):
operate under the authority of ICE officers under the two
eighty seven g program. So this is not the first
law enforcement agency in Texas to do this. Lots of
local agencies had, but the DPS is statewide. Right, so
this would this would include offices of the Texas Highway Patrol.
It has five thousand employees. It will make Texas a
markedly more hostile place for migrants. The authority allows warrantless
(41:14):
detention under loosely limited, loosely phrased supervision by an ICE officer. Right,
it allows Texas cops to detain a question people with
they suspect of being in the United States without documentation.
Here in San Diego, San Diego's Border Patrol Sector released
a video with I think it was like, I'll have
(41:36):
to check what song. It was like some cringe kind
of pop punk soundtrack of the dynamting of land west
of the Hakumber Wilderness. This is likely the construction that
saw many environmental and cultural protections waived by the HS
secretarynme earlier this year. Right, we're always seeing the beginning
of what that looks like and what that looks like
(41:57):
here is just a very unique landscape. Many one I
know some people who listen came out to Hookumber a
couple of years ago to help out. Like it's an
extremely unique high desert landscape and it's currently being dynamited. Right.
These are the areas where there were little gaps in
the border wall because construction there is very hard and
the way that they're going ahead with the construction is
(42:18):
blowing stuff up. Finally, on the immigration beat, the case
regarding conditions in the broad View Facility, which is in
Chicago until earlier this year it was only for very
short stays, like not for twenty four hour stays, has
revealed some of the horrific conditions inside the facility. It
confirmed something I've heard from multiple migrants who have been
(42:40):
detained or over the US, which is ICE is using
the threat of longest stays in poor conditions to get
people to sign deportation paperwork. Often it's literally in the
overcrowded rooms where they're sleeping and staying right, Like, at
any point you can just walk up to it and
sign your name and you will presumably be removed from
those conditions and place into deportation flight as soon as possible.
(43:03):
Reading directly from the lawsuit here quote people are forced
to attempt to sleep for days or sometimes weeks, on
plastic chairs or on the filthy concrete floor. They are
denied to fficient food and water. They cannot shower, They
are denied soap, high giene items and mental products, and
they have no way to clean themselves. They are often
denied a change of clothes. Continuing my quote here, the
temperatures are extreme and uncomfortable. Most nights are freezing cold,
(43:26):
yet only some receive a thin foil blanket, sweater or
sweatpants to try to retain warmth. The lights are typically
on all night. People have also reported being denied waterway
agents that are being their running water in the places
where they are held, and very little food. We've reported
on these conditions before. Some of this is standard. Right,
(43:47):
lights on all night, freezing cold, you only get a
very thin blanket like that. That has been the case,
That was the case throughout the Biden administration. Right they
call these places of the ice box, both in English
and in Spanish. This has always been the conditions to
people have been held in in these facilities have always
been in humane, but some of this is particularly bad.
(44:09):
People in broadview reported being so crowded they could not
extend their legs Jesus Chris, Yeah, so they had to
sit like sort of fetal position. They couldn't sit down
and extend their legs right alone sleep. Disgusting the unclean
conditions they have. Lots of people have reported paperwork not
being able to language that they read write. Bathrooms there
(44:30):
are not private, and the lawsuit alleges that people of
other genders could see each other using the bathroom, which
is pretty disgusting. I've linked to the lawsuit. You can
read it if you want.
Speaker 7 (44:44):
To Terror Park Transition, go.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
The jazz b Y Jazz Barry in the jazz rocking
jazz bo.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Ah music to My Ears, Oh boy, okay, abrough shift
in tone. So we got a little bit more details
on the sort of partial agreement that Trump and the
Chinese government have sort of come to that has staved
off some of the most disastrous of the new trade
war elements. Both sides seem to have gotten rid of
(45:25):
the fees from ships both docking at their ports and
also on like the sort of complicated shipbuilding stuff we
talked about last year. The US has paused the thing
we talked about last week where they were using the
Foreignansity list to do anything that was controlled that was
like forty percent or more controlled by a thing on
(45:47):
the foreignansity list couldn't be traded with. The US is
backing off on that for a year. Chinese agreed to
buy more soybeans. There's also some discussion of China buying
more energy products. But this is one of these things
that we just we have no idea what that is.
It's possible by the time you're listening to this, there
will be information. All we have is buy more energy.
(46:08):
And the last thing that Trump said that didn't seem
to be part of the negotiations between him and the
Chinese government per se, but we're definitely part of negotiations
that have been going on between Trump and his cabinet
was that there's going to be restrictions on AI chip exports.
Oh though exactly what is not known. All Trump said
(46:29):
was quote the most advanced we will not let anybody
have them other than the United States. What this seems
to be, and again everyone is kind of murkily hobbling
together whatever information they have. What it seems to be
is Trump stopped in Vidia from selling its most advanced
AI grade chips called Blackwell, to China, which was which
(46:52):
Nvidia has been massively lobbying for because they need to
expand their market to continue the giant bubble that they've accumulated.
Trump has stopped them. It's unclear whether this is going
to be made into formal policy or if Trump is
just going to personally intervene every time a CEO asked
him to do this. But yeah, we also have so
today recording November fifth is the start of the Supreme
(47:13):
Court case against the tariffs. I think it's worth noting
that this court case against the tariffs, it's framed as
like a lot of small businesses brought this lawsuit, and
they did. But also the reason it's gotten to the
Supreme Court is because they're being backed by a huge
player in the conservative legal machine. Almost the entire thing
is being funded and paid for by the Liberty Justice Center,
(47:34):
which is it's a kind of libertarian right wing legal
thing backed by like the Walton family and the Coke Network.
And this is I think one of the most direct
and interesting actual oppositional moves we've seen from this wing
of the libertarian business wing of the party, which is very,
very pissed off at the tariffs. We've seen a whole
(47:54):
bunch of amicus curia briefs from the American Enterpresents, the
Tree and the Cato Institute, and a whole bunch of
other wrote wing think tanks who are extremely angry about this.
We don't know exactly how it's going to go, but
the initial arguments do not seem to be going well
for the Trope administration. So that'll that'll be unfolding, and
we'll report on it. More is as we know more.
(48:16):
It's this is literally recording the first day of trials.
So and finally I'm going to close on a genuinely
deeply baffling piece of news, which is that the day
before the election in New York, Great Abbott posted that
there would be a one hundred percent tariff on anyone
moving to New York after the election.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yeah, how does that work?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Isn't it moving to Texas from New York?
Speaker 7 (48:40):
Well, I thought it was to New York.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
It's for me, it looked like moving to New York
as well.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I mean, it's certainly unclear, because this doesn't not seem
like a policy proposal. It seems more like a post.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
It's just a post. It's someone post posting through it.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Because this from moving from New York to Texas. Yeah,
any one moving from New York to Texas.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
Interesting. I don't know that tariffs are just posts now,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's not like a thing that there's law around you
being able to do.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
No, it's it's so one constitution. I think it's just
a post. I don't think it is anything like is.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Yeah, I mean evidently, I think the interesting thing about
it is like is the way in which tariffs have
come to be seen in their Republican mind as like
this is something you do to people you're mad at,
which is very new development in this is this is
a this is a pure Trump too phenomena effectively.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well absolutely yeah, a marker of how intensely they're paying
attention to this election. Like I mean, Abbots said doing
this because I'm sure it'll show show up his local popularity.
But it's a marker of like a change that has
been going on that that has been really like supercharged
(49:53):
in the Trump era of No, No, you can't have
local politics, like it's it's all national politics and any
kind of vote at a state or local level that
goes against whatever the party wants is something to be punished,
like even if it's two thousand miles away. And that
is that hasn't been as dominant in US politics as
(50:17):
it has been recently. We should probably talk a little
bit about Texas's election night, because that was also pretty consequential.
There were seventeen ballot measures passed by the Texas legislature
earlier this year by a two thirds majority, And the
way Texas law works is that once the legislature votes
for a ballot measure to two thirds majority, it becomes
(50:39):
a constitutional amendment after a simple majority of voters on
a ballot support it. And there were seventeen measures on
the ballot in Texas, which is wild, very few states
and constitutional amendments that the rate Texas dons and all
of them passed, which is nuts, and some of them
are like fine. There was want to create like a
(51:00):
three billion dollar fund for dementia research with like which
is like whatever, and nobody's got a problem with that really.
Some questions about implementation maybe, but there's some absolutely bug
fuck nuts stuff in here. Proposition thirteen raised the homestead
exemption from one hundred thousand dollars to one hundred and
forty thousand dollars. It was passed by about eighty percent
of voters. This lowers the taxable value of a home,
(51:22):
which reduces overall tax bills on your primary residence. Per
an article in the Houston Chronicle, the amendments will be
especially felt by elderly or disabled Texans who are poised
to receive a separate tax, a separate break that brings
their total property tax exemptions to two hundred thousand. As
a result, roughly half of seniors and people with disabilities
living in Harris and Bear Counties will no longer pay
(51:43):
any school property taxes. Jesus I should have to say
how bad that is for Texas schools and in general.
This A lot of these ballot measures were about making
heavy cuts and making it impossible to raise new revenue.
The cuts that are just in these ballot measures are
going to cost the state about four billion dollars over
the next two years. Right, But that's not all that
(52:06):
was done. Several of the bills that were passed banned
the potential to create new taxes. Right, So it is
now illegal in Texas to create taxes on capital gains
or taxes on the growth of assets like property in stocks,
or taxes on inheritance, and to state taxes. Taxes on
(52:26):
the operations of stock exchanges are now banned because several
have announced plans to open in taxes. Right, So you
are looking at I think the estimate here that I'm
seeing in the chronicles articles that the states can spend
about fifty one billion dollars over the coming biennium to
pay for the new cuts and maintain existing ones. Texas
is a state that has had for quite a while
(52:46):
a budget surplus, and they are basically lighting a lot
of that on fire to appeal to rich people and
business Note owners in stock exchanges to take their assets
to Texas. You won't have to help society if you
come to Texas. We don't have a society in Texas, right,
And that agenda did very well in Texas.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Jeez. Anyway, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
I guess the last thing I want to talk about
a little bit, since we've got a couple of minutes
here is the question on everybody's mind. Should I be
flying anywhere for the holidays? Is that going to be
a good idea? We're I'm saying this a day after
a horrific crash of a UPS flight over Muhammad Ali
International Airport in Louisville, right, which I mean, I think
(53:35):
seven was the death toll last I saw night maarish fireballs.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
I mean at nine this morning?
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Is it at nine? Because the plane just the engine
caught on fire basically on takeoff, and normally, from what
I'm reading from pilots, normally that should have been a
manageable problem. But because it happened during the ascent, which
is the most dangerous part of piloting a plane and
where you have the least control, they were not able
to recover or gain any kind of control. And the
(54:02):
plane basically plowed directly into a UPS warehouse, And it
was loaded with something like three hundred thousand pounds worth
of fuel because it was about to fly to Honolulu,
so it was as full of fuel as a big
plane can be, and just a horrific crash. Is this
tied to the fact that you have a lot of
federal employees furloughed? Is it tied more just to the
(54:25):
fact that the FAA is not functioning the way it
should be or used to as a result of changes
the Trump administration made as soon as they came to power.
I think it's too early to say that, but this
is part of a pattern of pretty disastrous near misses
that absolutely can be attributed to things like the air
traffic controller shortage and the fact that there's just a
(54:47):
lot less safety precautions being taken. And this is something
the administration is aware of and has become critical enough
that they're no longer able to deny it. Secretary of
Transportations Sean Duffy on Monday said that all commercial flights
might be stopped nationwide to protect public safety, and they
were certainly going to need to cut off flights in
(55:09):
specific parts of the countries at times as a result
of the ATC shortage.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Basically, there's different like grids that the country is divided into,
and you might have to shut down one or more
of those at a time in order to make the
shortage of air traffic controllers able to handle the rest
of the load.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
For an example of how bad this can get locally,
on last Friday in New York State, eighty percent of
air traffic controllers did not show up for work. So
this is a potentially pretty calamitous problem. There have been
ground delays on Monday for three major Texas airports in Austin,
Dallas Fort Worth, and Dallas love Field. And this is
just in general, a problem that's only going to get
(55:49):
worse as the shutdown looms, because I've seen some interviews
with air traffic controllers where like one guy was like, look,
we're not getting medicine for my kid and she'll die
without it. It's just not coming in. How do you
expect me to be a fucking air traffic controller right,
like the hardest job in the country that requires absolutely
perfect concentration at all times without ever fucking up or
(56:09):
hundreds of people die. So I don't know to answer
the question of like, should you fly be planning flights
for this holiday season? You should certainly get the flight
and share its and be paying attention the days before
as to what's happening if the shutdown doesn't end, because
right now we are seeing delays the likes of which
(56:30):
haven't really been seen since maybe either the pandemic probably
before nine to eleven was kind of the last time
things were this completely fucked. Garrison can tell you how
much of a fucking nightmare they had coming back. And
it's not just in the United States. By the way,
multiple major airports in Europe over the last week and
change have had to shut down entirely or partly because
(56:50):
of unauthorized or unknown drone flights in their airspace. That's
just going globally. Air travel is not doing well.
Speaker 5 (57:01):
Yeah, Russia's been probing Europe with these or lands for
a little while. Yeah. I think all then know Roberts
flowing Garrison. I have flown this month. It fucking sucks.
Use a credit card if you can when they had
some protections, but maybe maybe consider not flying right now.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, just you know, keep an eye on things. I
don't know what else to tell you.
Speaker 5 (57:21):
Yeah, it's great. Everything's going great. That is the slogan.
Everything's going great.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
You know, there's been worse times.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
There's been worse time, Yeah, the Blitz.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Yeah, talking of worse times. Lots of people are hungry,
right because we are we're fucking with people's snap benefits
now as part of the culture war. Lots of people
are very worried about where their food is going to
come from. Right, and we're entering a time of year,
you know, kids are going to be off school, there's
lots of places you can still get your free school meals,
(57:52):
but it's a difficult time for people. It's difficult time
for people to feed their families. I wanted to plug.
We All we Got is San Diego group. What they're
doing it is helping people be able to rely on
them by delivering groceries to them right and the way
that they most need support is for people to sign
up to regularly donate a certain amount. I'm not going
(58:13):
to tell you how much you can donate, but if
you're able to, that will give them the ability to
plan to secure groceries for people they're supporting. The way
you can find their website is to go to we
All we Got sd dot com slash donate. Also, if
you want to reach out to us and you want
to do it in an encrypted way, you could send
(58:34):
an email from your proton mail address to our proton
mail address, which is cool Zone Tips at proton dot me.
If you're a marketing person and you want your client
to be a guest on our podcast, don't email us.
I'm just going to fucking block you. That's that's That's
all I have to say about that. If you want
to have to plug your product, I will also fucking
(58:55):
block you.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
We reported the.
Speaker 7 (59:00):
Reported the news.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
It could Happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media.
For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website
coolzonmedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can
now find sources for it could Happen here listed directly
in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening.
Cold Zone Media.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Am I introducing the podcast. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
This is It Could Happen Here Executive Disorder, our weekly
news cast covering what's happening in the White House, the
crumbling world what it means for you.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I'm Garrison Davis.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Today I'm joined by Mio Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans.
This episode recovering the week of October thirty first to
November fifth, one of the most exciting weeks in politics.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Yeah, because it's onon finite if.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You remember the poem that's right, And that's not the
only exciting thing to happen, but also not the only
sad thing to happen this week, because as exciting as
election Day was for people in New York, there was
like a looming sadness throughout the day because earlier that morning, obviously,
Vice President Dick Cheney passed away and that was rough
(00:58):
for many people, not rough many others, but that certainly
was illuming presence over the day. Does anyone have any
words to say on the passing of mister Cheney.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just want to let everyone in
hell know this too shall pass. You know, you won't
be stuck with him forever. Just try to grin and
bear it. I know it's going to be hard for
a lot of you, especially Saddam Hussein, but I know
you can get past this. You know, he will get
reincarnated as a Senate Republican staffer within the next six
(01:30):
to eight months, so so you won't have to put
up with him long.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I guess this is also just your reminder that it's
going to date to practice see full essential rooms of
firearms safety at old times.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Don't shoot with Dick Cheney if you see Dick Cheney
while you're hunting quail?
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Do the kids even know about this?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Now? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
The kid the kids know? The kids? No?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Cheney Laura is permeated throughout generations of American culture.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
When I was a kid, there was like a whole
thing where we all thought the song Jamie's Got a
Gun was Cheney's Got a gun.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
In front of excess.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Because it just lined up with everything you knew about
the world.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
What's funny about it is that my actual thinking on
that shooting hasn't changed since I was a Republican kid.
Like when I was a young right winger, I thought, Wow,
Dick Cheney's so cool. He shot a man and got
him to apologize to him, And now as an adult
on the left, I still think that's kind of the
coolest thing Dick.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Cheney ever did. Like it is a head of a feat.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That man apologized for getting in front of his sights.
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Now it is.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It is unfortunate that Dick Cheney did not live to
see the election of Zormumdani as the mayor of New
York City, which happened, and that would have been funny
on Tuesday. Later that day, Zoran has become the first
candidate in New York mayoral history to win over a
million votes since nineteen sixty nine. Nice this election itself
(03:14):
saw over two million votes. This is a million more
votes in the last in New York mayoral election.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Huge turnout.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Currently, as of Wednesday afternoon, Zoran has fifty point four
percent of the vote. Former governor and sexual assaults enthusiast
Andrew Cuomo, running as an independent, has forty one point
six percent, and the bray wearing Curtisilwa as seven point one.
(03:44):
Not a spoiler candidate in many ways, nor would it
be correct to say that all of Silver's votes would
have gone to one candidate or another. But even if
you do add all of his votes on to disgraced
former Governor Andrew Cuomo's total zoron still comes out on
top well.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Which was something that there was legitimately a lot of
question about as to like whether or not will Sila
staying in matter?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Uh, And it's it's a really good sign that it didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It did not Sliwa. So no one really knows how
to pronounce the name, including in the city. You hear
it different pronunciations with different people at different times. Sometimes
it's Slilwa, sometimes it's Silwa saliwa.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All I know is he got stabbed on the subway, right.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And shot five times in the back of a cab
in the back. That's right. How did they fail to
kill him? Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's harder to kill people by shooting them with a
handgun than you might think.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, apparently hanggum ballistics are just different.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yes, and he does have seventeen cats.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
He ran on the Republican and the Protected the Protect
Animals party. You can have some criticism for for past
ills that that he has contributed to, but he is
certainly mixed up for that some way.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
For being a fascinating character.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
He's a very New York kind of figure.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Ed.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
He was the only mayor all candidate to call and
congratulate Zora Mom Donnie last night. Both Clobo and Mayor
Adams did not call Mamdani, but Curtis did, which is
kind of beautiful. It's kind of beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
He's a classy man. You don't get to wear a
red beret like that unless you have some manners.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
The British Parachute Regiment would beg to disagree about having
nanas and wearing red hats.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, he's my head cannon now is that he is
the British paratrooper.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Just drop him in with seventeen cats and he and
he starts milling immediately.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, he saves that fucking mall in Nairobi.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Or tell you what, the Argentines wouldn't have funcked with
the Falklands of Curtis and being there now with all
those cats. That's where he's going now that he's been
banished in New York like piss.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Guys, shouldn't take this just.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
An island, Yeah, Staten Island, which.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You're you're a real New Yorker now Gary, you shed
on Staten.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Island, which is the only borough that went for Cuomo,
where he was up thirty three points.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
That was very funny.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Mamdani won every other bureau up twenty in Brooklyn, up
ten in Manhattan, of five in Queens and eleven in
the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
From what this should tell everyone everywhere in the country
about what is possible in politics, even in times as
dark as this is that he was what eight percent
a year ago?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
They six percent, it's like in January, six percent in January.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And he he didn't just eke it out because there
were a shitload of guys. This isn't like an Arnold
thing where everybody's on the fucking ballot and it's like
a crazy cartoon election. He legitimately votes nowhere and one.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The most votes for a mayor old candidate in almost
fifty years. Yeah, nearly reaching the the like the vote
totals in this election for like a presidential election in
the city.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Yeah, it's very impressive for like a mid cycle off
cycle election turnout wise, yep.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Specifically, he won a whole bunch of votes that he
did not gain the primary. Among uh, some like black
and Latino voters. You can see that in the turnout
at like the Bronx.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And these these people aren't overwhelmingly at least at this stage,
folks who have been convinced of every aspect of ideology
that Zorn has ever put out there. People who looked
at who was available are like, this guy seems like
he genuinely wants to do something. Yeah, and they told
me to the specific policies. They're not they're not paying
attention to the fact that he quoted Eugene V. Debs.
(07:43):
They're talking, they're listening to his his policies on like
creating municipal grocery stores and stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Right, it's about affordability, not ideology. And Zorn's strict focus
on affordability not running a campaign that like falls back
on fear, not running a campaign about foreign policy when
you're in fucking New York City. Strict focus on affordability
was the key to winning this campaign.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
A strict focus on affordability while not pretending not to
have the ideology, which is also really not worthy. Right
where he's still he's still he isn't he's not like
talking around it, right.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
No, he's not apologizing or hiding the fact that he's
a democratic socialist. Yeah, and this produced some super interesting
results if you if you refer back to the last
election twenty twenty four and in everyone bemoaning like, how
how come young men are so politically lost? Why are
they all going so far to the right? Sixty eight
(08:39):
percent of men age eighteen to twenty nine goes to mom, Donnie,
sixty six percent of men thirty to forty forty five
percent of men forty five to sixty five. Among women
eighteen to twenty nine years old, eighty four percent.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
Donnie Booking said, dom number larious bath party election numbers one.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Actually Saddam Hussein out to Creedy did in fact vote,
but he went for He broke hard for Cuomo. Honestly
at the end, it was the sex crimes that that
that that did it for UNI did vote for Slowa
though that was kind of weird. I'm gonna be honest
with you. We're all trying to parse that one out.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
It's a cat thing.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, like I said, like not hiding his political inspirations
in any way, quoted Eugen Debs ten seconds into his
victory speech. Yeah, immediately you understand, like, oh, this guy's
like player, he knows what's up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Eugene V. Debs, the socialist who ran for president from prison. Yeah, yes,
for to know who Eugene V. Debs is, like arguably
the most radical national candidate who has ever existed in
this country.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, and his speech was extremely poetic. It got a
very strong positive reaction from the people who I watched
this with in Bushwick, which was the district that was
the most pro Mamdani out of the entire electoral mathemicity.
But he started by talking about how power has been
kept out of the hands of working people by the
(10:09):
hands that keep the city going by lifting boxes, by
gripping the handlebars of delivery bikes, and collecting burned scars
from cooking food.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Over the last twelve months, you have dared to reach
for something greater tonight, against all odds, we have grasped it.
The future is in our hands unquote. The whole speech
was kind of a rife with little like metaphors and
allegories like that.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It was very cute.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Went on to discuss how the campaign toppled a political
dynasty and gave one of the most like fine tuned
dishes I've ever seen quote, I wish Andrew Cuomo only
the best in private life.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's a phenomenal cook.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
But I hope I never have to say his name.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Again, or but let tonight be the last time I
utter his name.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Only the best in private life is down.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's basically this is like, he's
not the originator of this particular kind of disc It
goes back a while, but the gist is like everyone's
moment be a family man, get out of a way.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Repeatedly, Mam, Donnie has has used the word mandate to
describe this selection and the results.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
New York has delivered a mandate for change, a mandate
for a new kind of politics, mandate for a city
we can afford, a mandate for a government that delivers
exactly that. I'm going to play a short clip here.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Thank you to the next generation of New Yorkers who
refused to accept that the promise of a better future
was a relic of the past. You showed that when
politics speaks to you without condescension, we can usher in
a new era of leadership. We will fight for you
(12:02):
because we are you, or as we say on Steinway
an amincom wile.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Coum the Arabic there wild wild that we've moved this
far in New York that it's in credit wins you
an election Like that didn't win him the election, but
like they really tried the nine to eleven shit. Rudy
Giuliani posted today a crude photoshop of his own face
(12:31):
in the fires of the twin of the burning twin towers. Yeah,
we forgot written across it, and that did None of
that shit did anything.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
The last month of the campaign against Mamdani, whether that's
from people like Bill Accurate as Bloomberg or Cuomo's actual team,
has has used what people have been calling the nine
to eleven card, incessantly playing clips of nine to eleven
with like zoron like emblazon, like over overtop plank from
Hassan talking about nine to eleven. But the Islamophobia that
(13:04):
the Cuomo campaign has resorted to as a last ditch
effort to stop Mamdani has been despicable, And the fact
that this did not scare Momdanni into like hiding or
like restricting that part of himself is incredibly admirable.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, but they wasn't just nine to eleven, right, like
you said, it was the broad Islam, like they deployed
as they always do, like every urban area in Britain
is now like the Caliphate, like this bullshit that that
exists only in the American conservative mind and it failed,
which is.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Good specifically for a lot of the speech, it was
about juxtaposing like how we used to have good things
in the past, like we have this idea that like
good things now are always out of reach, and juxtaposing
this like idea of like hope or or like past
exceptionalism that we just don't feel like we've access to anymore,
and showing that if you actually involve young people, we
(13:54):
can actually do do good things in our city now.
And I really liked the line about like politics that
speaks to you without condescension, and how much this campaign
was like ran by and for you know, young candidates
and young voters.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Went on to thank the people who have been forgotten
by the politics of our city and how they've supported
his campaign quote Yemeni bodega owners and Mexican ubuelas, Sengalese
taxi drivers and Uzbek nurses, Trinidadian line cooks, and Ethiopian
aunties unquote, and he went on to mention the kind
(14:31):
of people that this campaign is about, and towards the
end of that section, he talked about the hunger strike
that he participated in four years ago in order to
win debt relief for cab drivers, And it's about people.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Like Richard the taxi driver I went on a fifteen
day hunger strike with outside of city hall, who still
has to drive his cab seven.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Days a week.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
My brother, we are in city hall.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
That is that is the energy of like the campaign
in the city right now. Like that that sort of framing,
and that's the energy that people are like carrying.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Through I saw among the right wing fever spawns responses
to this, Mike Cernovich taking a clip from the election
night party where one of the people who is attending
Zoran's party made a comment about how like white people
need to get on board with the idea that like
our culture is multiculturalism in this country right, Like it's
it's not anything else, Like that's that's like what has
(15:36):
made America. And Mike did not react well to that.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I can't imagine the declaration of wars and Avich mad, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But no, like especially in New York, out of like
anywhere in the country, like, especially in New York like,
the culture is made through the mix of immigrants that
have built this city, and this is something that discussed throughout.
Zaran went on to thank the one hundred thousand campaign
volunteers and specifically how their efforts quote eroded the cynicism
(16:07):
that has come to define our politics.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
I liked that line, and.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Then he asked New Yorkers to breathe this moment in quote.
We have held our breath for longer than we know.
We have held it in anticipation of defeat, held it
because the air has been knocked out of our lungs
too many times to count, held it because we cannot
afford to exhale. Thanks to all of those who have
sacrificed so much, we are breathing in the air of
facity that has been reborn. There are many who thought
(16:33):
this day would never come, who feared we would be
condemned only to a future of less, with every election
consigning us to simply more of the same. And there
are others who see politics today as too cruel for
the flame of hope to still burn New York. We
have answered those fears unquote.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
And while we cast our ballots alone. We chose hope together,
hope over tyranny, hope over big money and small ideas,
hope over despair. We won because New Yorkers allowed themselves
(17:13):
to hope that the impossible could be made possible. And
we won because we insisted that no longer would politics
be something that is done to us. Now it is
something that we do. Standing before you, I think of
(17:40):
the words of Juan lal Nehru. A moment comes but
rarely in history, when we step out from the old
to the new, when an age ends, and when the
soul of a nation long suppressed finds utterance. Tonight we
have stepped out from the old into the new.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The line about politics not being something that's done to you, yeah, yeah,
that really outlines how politics has felt in this country
for as basically as long as I can remember. He
then outlined what his central agenda to tackle the cost
of living crisis is, including freezing the rent for more
than two million rits, timbolized tenants, making buses faster and free,
(18:25):
and delivering universal childcare across the city, saying quote, this
will be an age where New Yorkers expect from their
leaders a bold vision of what we will achieve, rather
than a list of excuses for what we are too
timid to attempt. Let's go on a quick break and
we will come back to talk a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
About the election.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
All right, we're back.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
During the second half of this speech, Zoron turned to
address Donald Trump. Right this looming thing across politics nationwide,
but specifically New York, as Trump has threatened to start
to fuck with New York even more if Zoron is
elected and people in New York know this. And about
halfway through, Zoron addressed Trump directly, which we will get
(19:23):
to you in a sec But before he directly talked
to Trump, in this speech, Zoron laid out what types
of people the city government will be focusing on protecting
from Trump's division and hate.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
In this new age we make for ourselves, we will
refuse to allow those who traffic in division and hate
to pit us against one another in this moment of
political darkness. New York will be the light here leave
(20:00):
in standing up for those we love. Whether you are
an immigrant, a member of the trans community, one of
the many black women that Donald Trump is fired from
a federal job, a single mom still waiting for the
cost of groceries to go down, or anyone else with
(20:24):
their back against the wall. Your struggle is ours two.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Specifically, I like this idea of in the darkened political moment,
this United States is in New York and the Zorn
administration and how that reflects New York and general though
will be a beacon for the rest of the country.
And naming like the trans community is like the second
group mentioned there was heavily appreciated in the Bushwick Trans
(20:55):
Watch party that.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I was at.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Zorah went on to say that quote, no more will
New York be a city where you can traffic in
Islamophobia and win an election. This new age will be
defined by a competence and a compassion that have too
long been placed in odds with one another. We will
prove that there is no problem too large for government
to solve and no concern too small for it to
care about. Tens of millions of dollars have been spent
(21:20):
to redefine reality and to convince our neighbors that this
new age is something that should frighten them. As has
often occurred, the billionaire class has sought to convince those
making thirty dollars an hour, that their enemies are those
earning twenty dollars an hour. They want the people to
fight amongst ourselves so that we remain distracted from the
work of remaking along broken system. Together, we will usher
(21:41):
in a generation of change. And if we embrace this
brave new course, rather than fleeing from it, we can
respond to oligarchy and authoritarianism with the strength it fears,
not the appeasement it craves.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
I think this whole section is something very important, and
this has been something that's been very consistent about Donnie's
entire campaign, which is there's been on the left for
a very very long time, a just interminable, intractable conflict
between this idea of like purely focusing on class politics
or talking about race. And but I think what Montdammi
(22:17):
is doing here ha's been very effective, right, is you
can just do both. And in fact, as the left
over the last you know, sort of senses kind of
the reemergence of this kind of left in like twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, as it's gone on, it's gotten less white,
it's gotten more to verse, has gotten more multicultural, and
it's been able to fuse these two things together, and
(22:37):
it's been able to fuse that with just you know,
like being very very openly pro trans and like there
was you know, there's also a pretty big response that
I saw from people talking about the fact that he
specifically mentioned that it was black women who were being
fired by the Trump administration. Right, And you can just
do all these things together and it works, and it's
worked the whole time. And refusing to pit these things
(22:59):
against each other, like refusing to pit affordability against trans rights,
refusing to pit yes, yeah, you know, like fusing to
pit the politics of like defending and this is some
thing that like fucking Bernie is terrible at, right, where
like Bernie like has been like has a whole rant
about how Trump has been right on like we have
to reduce immigration, right, and you don't have to do that.
You can be pro immigrant, you can be protraned, you
(23:19):
can be pro black women, you can be you know,
and and you can also want everything to cost less,
and you can be in favor of the fact that
the US is a is a multicultural society and can
only function as one. And it's it's a winning form
of politics. And I'm glad we're finally getting there.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, and it will be great if this New York
City as a beacon can actually shine and not get
rectifled out in.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
These in these next four years.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Because Zorn is, unless unless things happen, will be the
mayor for the remainder of the Trump term, right like
this is he will be mayor after second Trump administration
is over, barring any unfortunate incident.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Make sure your private security is really good.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Way whoever ypd detail get your own guys. Yeah, it'll
be fine. But it also it means like like from
I guess a national perspective, it is likely that mom
Danny will become like the enemy number one of the
Trump administration, where they probably Newsome or prish Karan now right,
(24:30):
like it's it is easier because of the obvious bigotry
that underlies a lot of the Republican Party to go
after a brown dude. Yes, and that is what they
are going to do. And they're going to use.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Brown democratic socialists.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Yeah, who stands up for trans people and migrants. And
likely you saw how acceptable islamophobia is in Cuomo's campaign, right,
like you just go on to every mainstream network and
say shit, that it is fucking disgusting. Yeah, and so
we should prepare our sales for four more years of that,
I guess. And I think he does a very good
job of repudiating that, and obviously the electorate in New
(25:06):
York did too. But that is going to be what
we are going to see as a result of this.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Well.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
No, and like so much of the resistance to Zoron
came from this idea that if he wins, that means
that this is going to be what people point to
as a future for politics, specifically democratic politics, And a
lot of people wanted to stop him because they knew
that's going to happen. If he is in control of
the biggest city in the country as the Democratic mayor,
that's going to be influential for what democratic politics will
(25:34):
be after they got completely clobbered last year. And he's
showing that a different type of politics is possible, even
even within the Democratic Party. And that's that's true, like
altering what the party is fundamentally, Yeah, and I think
it's it is. It is a cool little side note
that Zoron voted for himself on the Working Families party
line and in fact not the Democratic Party line. Becau's
(25:57):
called the New York mayoral ballot's work. I'm gonna pay
one more clip from the speech of Zorn, specifically addressing Trump.
It's going to be a teeny bit longer, and I
think we'll cut We'll shorten some of the applause bits
because some of the applause sections gone for quite long.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
But this will be the last club.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
After all, if anyone can show a nation betrayed by
Donald Trump how to defeat him, it is the city
that gave rise to him. And if there is any
way to terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the
very conditions that allowed him to accumulate power. This is
(26:42):
not only how we stopped Trump, it's how we stop
the next one. So, Donald Trump, since I know you're watching,
I have four words for you. Turn the volume up.
We will hold bad landlords to account because the Donald
(27:05):
Trumps of our city have grown far too comfortable taking
advantage of their tenants.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
We will put an end to.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
The culture of corruption that has allowed billionaires like Trump
to evade taxation and exploit tax breaks. We will stand
alongside unions and expand labor protections because we know, just
as Donald Trump does that when working people have ironclad rights,
(27:33):
the bosses who seek to extort them become very small. Indeed,
New York will remain a city of immigrants, a city
built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and as of tonight,
led by an immigrant. So hear me, President Trump, when
(27:55):
I say this, to get to any of.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Us, you will have to get through all of us.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
The ship rocks.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
It's good, it's good.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool for a mayor
alection to.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Say that he didn't manage to get in the New
York is the anchora of America, which I was hoping
for them.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Otherwise, great, that's Eric Adams this bit.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah, yeah, sad day for sad day for Turkey today.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
I guess on an actually important note, I think it
is really important that you know, all of this energy
against Trump, right and against all the shit that he's
doing that's so hideously unpopular, it's starting to be channeled
into politics that can actually defeat him. Yeah, and that
are actually good, you know, and that he's talking about
specifically the fact that you have to deshoy the conditions
that created it and so they don't create the next
one like this fucking rocks.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
This is good.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah. For so long, like for I mean most of
the twenty sixteen to twenty twenty period and for a
lot of this year, we've seen so many people turn
the obvious disgust that people have a what Trump is
doing into grifts into some reporting of politics which fundamentally
allowed for the conditions we are in now, right, And
to see someone repudiate that and to see more than
(29:07):
a million people turn out to support that is fantastic.
Like it's genuinely hopeful.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
It's something like zoronas like acknowledge. It's like this is
not like the end, right, this is a means, not
the means either, Like this is this this is a
means to an end. And this whole campaign started, as
he's referred to it as a quote unquote electoral project
by the New York City DSA, Like this was largely
an experiment and an experiment that grew wildly, wildly kind
(29:36):
of out of what I assumed they kind of saw
it as in the earlier in the earlier days, and
now they're in this like moment and they have to
they have to keep rolling with it. But it is
it is an experiment for a a version of doing this,
and he knows this is not like the only method
or tactic to be utilized, but as as an experiment,
(29:56):
I think it's so far pretty well done now, as
is on closest speech by calling to chart a new
path as bold as the campaign has already been, saying
that conventional wisdom would claim that he is far from
the perfect candidate. Quote, I'm young, despite my best efforts
to grow older. I am Muslim, I am a democratic socialist,
and the most stabbing of all. I refuse to apologize
(30:18):
for any of this. And yet if tonight teaches us anything,
it is that convention has held us back. We have
bowed at the altar of caution. We have paid a
mighty price. Too many working people cannot recognize themselves in
our party, and too many among us have turned to
the right for answers to why they've been left behind.
(30:40):
We will leave mediocrity in our past. No longer will
we have to open a history book for proof that
Democrats can dare to be great. Our greatness will be
anything but abstract unquote, and he concludes by saying that
the greatness will be felt by rent stable ie tenants
who will wake up knowing they are rent hasn't sword
(31:02):
by grandparents who can afford to stay in their home
and whose grandchildren live nearby because the cost of childcare
is not driving them out of the city, And by
the single mothers who don't need to rush their kids
to school because they can commute to work on a
fast bus.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Most of all, it will be felt by each New
Yorker when the city they love finally loves them back unquote.
The stuff about like worshiping at the altar of caution
for like the past, the past like twenty more than twenty,
but especially the past like twenty years of like Democrat politics,
and how he is also recognizing that like this is
(31:39):
this could mark a fundamental shift in what the Democratic
Party actually is because the people Democrats included, who've been
trying to stop this have failed miserably so far, putting
tens of millions of dollars into a campaign to try
to crush crush this version of what the future of
New York Democrat politics is, and more people since nineteen
(31:59):
sixty nine showed up to deny that future. That's all
I have for Zoran right now, it's literally, you know
less than twenty four hours after the Yeah, but this
was not just a New York City mayoral election.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
There were there were other races, including other other things.
In New York.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
There was a Prop one amendment to the state Constitution
to retroactively authorize the winter sports facilities on Mount then Hovenburg,
which is protected forestland and would require the state at
two thousand, five hundred acres of newly protected land elsewhere
in the ad Ranak that's how I'm saying it at
Irondack Mountains. Yeah, which was passed, and this allows them
(32:43):
to continue to build and maintain the winter sports facility.
Propositions two through six were New York City Charter Amendments.
Two to four were housing reform proposals to fast track
the approval process for affordable housing and simplify zoning reviews
and establish an Affordable Housing Appeals Board.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
All of the passed.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
These will limit the ability of the City Council to
control and slow down housing development and empower the mayor
specifically to build more affordable units faster. And Prop five,
which also passed, creates a new digital methnic city. The
only prop to fail, which was Number six, was to
move local elections to be in line with presidential elections
on that four year basis. Basically, the ballot that Zorn
(33:23):
filled out himself was the one that passed for all
of these, all of these proposals.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Yeah, you get. They call it a coattails effect in
political science, right, like the idea that the.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
People announced his ballot that morning. He did not.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
He he didn't, and he didn't even announce it like
a journalist asked him what he was voting on. He
specifically did not advocate for any of these or or
try to dissuade anyone from any of these before the election.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Yeah, for sure. But you get a generally aligned politically electorate, right,
a relatively progressive in American terms, electorate coming out to
vote for him, who will look at these things and
say that seems to make sense with the way I
see the round.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Democrat Abigail Spenberger won the governor of Virginia flipping blue.
Jay Jones, a Democrat candidate for Virginia AG also beat
the Republican incumbent. This was after a month of attacks
for a series of text messages from twenty twenty two
where j Jones said that if certain Republican delegates died,
(34:25):
he would quote go to their funerals to piss on
their graves unquote, and wish for the hypothetical deaths of
Virginia House Speaker Todd Gilbert's children quote only would people
feel pain personally?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Do they move on policy?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I mean, do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil
and that they're breeding little fascists?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Unquote.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
That's also not really hipathetical deaths like he did in
a call with a with another Republican politician.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Then after the call, they continued texting about it. So
the proof is in these texts, and he is admitted this,
and basically he was like, Yeah, if these people's like
children were to get killed in mass shooting, maybe their
opinions on guns would change.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
That's essentially what he's expressing there.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
And then he also he also was.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Quoted in these leads text messages as saying, quote, three people,
two bullets, Virginia Huse Speaker Todd Gilbert Hitler, and Paul
Pott Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Spoiler put Gilbert in the crew.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
With sorry, just as an elected official, as an attorney general,
someone going to be a call that you put in
the fucking text message spoiler.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Put Gilberts in the crew with the two worst people
you know, and he receives both bullets every time. It's insane,
up sec hero, But that is the new attorney general.
That's a new Democrat Attorney general of Virginia who the
right has been attacking for quite for relentlessly the past month,
(36:05):
because you really fucked up.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
If you can't like, no, if you can't run attacks
on that guy, and you still.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
All of those jokes about the wine moms in the suburbs,
like wanting blood and like there looking at this Oh no,
hell yeah, yeah, give me four ward bullets will put
in this guy.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
It's pretty crazy. It's it's it's pretty astonishing.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Maine voted no sixty three percent on a voter restriction measure.
Voters extended the Democrat Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and the California
Redistricting Measure or Proposition passed with sixty three point eight percent.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
James, Yeah, do you have stuff on this?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:46):
So Prop fifty in California, California, it was like a
one issue ballot, right, you said the Prop fifty this
would temporarily redistrict I think people maybe have not been
like like often it gets missed, and it is temporarily
redistricting California until re establishing the non partisan committee that
does districting in twenty thirty one. For the twenty thirty
(37:07):
two those districts will come back, or that they will
return to a non partisan districting in twenty thirty two.
This is one of the most expensive propositions in state history.
One hundred and twenty million was spent in favor, forty
four million against. There was also outside money. Newsome already
(37:27):
called on New York, Illinois and other Democrat majority seats
to do the same. Right, it's going to likely remove
about five Republican seats, or those Republicans are going to struggle.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
One of them would be at ser Diego's Mountain Empire
and East County seat, which is currently the forty eighth.
That seat has been redistricted a few times, right, it's
moved around. It's currently Darryl ISO's seat. In response, California
Republicans have already filed a lawsuit. Suit was filed by
high Meet Dylan's law firm.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yayyay so Dyland of the party.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Dylan is in the Trump administration now.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
But yeah, Elean is in the Trump administration and occasionally
in my inbox making threats.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Fastic great, But with Dylan's law firm that that father
case right. The case has claimed that California drew the
new lines to quote specifically favor Hispanic voters, which it
is a similar claim to the Louisiana versus Calais. I
think Calais. There is the way they say it here
(38:35):
case which is currently before the Supreme Court, which the
Supreme Court seems to be suggesting it might be it
might be amenable to this argument right, that the consideration
of race in redistricting is discriminate free. Yesterday Trump truth
quoting here, the unconstitutional redistricting vote in California is a
(38:57):
giant scam. That part is in block capital as is characteristic.
The rest is sporadically capitalized. I'm going back to the
quote now, in the entire process, in particular, the voting
itself is rigged all quote mail in ballots where the
Republicans in that state are shut out. It's under very
serious legal and criminal review. Stay tuned. Yeah, you know,
(39:22):
fairly predictable what we talked about it last week. It's
not entirely possible for me to pass out that second sentence,
but I think we can see what direction is pushing in. Right.
This was predictable that this was going to happen, and
we'll keep you updated on it. Also predictable that we
would have to pivot to ads again, which is what
(39:43):
we're going to do now. And we are back a
little bit of immigration news this week, as always according
(40:03):
to report it, this is actually last week, but we
didn't have time for last week. Equalt remportant by CNN.
Trump claimed he was quote very much opposed to his
own administration's immigration raid on our HONDB plant in Georgia,
which obviously this is what he's saying to try and
get that foreign direct investment back in Georgia rape, because
it looks very much like Georgia is going to pay
pretty heavily for that raid. Unfortunately, another man lost his
(40:27):
life when fleeing ice officers last week. He seems to
have left a car that he was in and tempted
across a freeway where he was fatally struck by another car. Yeah,
that's the second time this has happened this year. Texas
acidned an agreement with a federal government to allow local
DPS officers to operate as ICE officers or technically to
(40:49):
operate under the authority of ICE officers under the two
eighty seven g program. So this is not the first
law enforcement agency in Texas to do this. Lots of
local agencies had, but the DPS is statewide. Right, so
this would this would include offices of the Texas Highway Patrol.
It has five thousand employees. It will make Texas a
markedly more hostile place for migrants. The authority allows warrantless
(41:14):
detention under loosely limited, loosely phrased supervision by an ICE officer. Right,
it allows Texas cops to detain a question people with
they suspect of being in the United States without documentation.
Here in San Diego, San Diego's Border Patrol Sector released
a video with I think it was like, I'll have
(41:36):
to check what song. It was like some cringe kind
of pop punk soundtrack of the dynamting of land west
of the Hakumber Wilderness. This is likely the construction that
saw many environmental and cultural protections waived by the HS
secretarynme earlier this year. Right, we're always seeing the beginning
of what that looks like and what that looks like
(41:57):
here is just a very unique landscape. Many one I
know some people who listen came out to Hookumber a
couple of years ago to help out. Like it's an
extremely unique high desert landscape and it's currently being dynamited. Right.
These are the areas where there were little gaps in
the border wall because construction there is very hard and
the way that they're going ahead with the construction is
(42:18):
blowing stuff up. Finally, on the immigration beat, the case
regarding conditions in the broad View Facility, which is in
Chicago until earlier this year it was only for very
short stays, like not for twenty four hour stays, has
revealed some of the horrific conditions inside the facility. It
confirmed something I've heard from multiple migrants who have been
(42:40):
detained or over the US, which is ICE is using
the threat of longest stays in poor conditions to get
people to sign deportation paperwork. Often it's literally in the
overcrowded rooms where they're sleeping and staying right, Like, at
any point you can just walk up to it and
sign your name and you will presumably be removed from
those conditions and place into deportation flight as soon as possible.
(43:03):
Reading directly from the lawsuit here quote people are forced
to attempt to sleep for days or sometimes weeks, on
plastic chairs or on the filthy concrete floor. They are
denied to fficient food and water. They cannot shower, They
are denied soap, high giene items and mental products, and
they have no way to clean themselves. They are often
denied a change of clothes. Continuing my quote here, the
temperatures are extreme and uncomfortable. Most nights are freezing cold,
(43:26):
yet only some receive a thin foil blanket, sweater or
sweatpants to try to retain warmth. The lights are typically
on all night. People have also reported being denied waterway
agents that are being their running water in the places
where they are held, and very little food. We've reported
on these conditions before. Some of this is standard. Right,
(43:47):
lights on all night, freezing cold, you only get a
very thin blanket like that. That has been the case,
That was the case throughout the Biden administration. Right they
call these places of the ice box, both in English
and in Spanish. This has always been the conditions to
people have been held in in these facilities have always
been in humane, but some of this is particularly bad.
(44:09):
People in broadview reported being so crowded they could not
extend their legs Jesus Chris, Yeah, so they had to
sit like sort of fetal position. They couldn't sit down
and extend their legs right alone sleep. Disgusting the unclean
conditions they have. Lots of people have reported paperwork not
being able to language that they read write. Bathrooms there
(44:30):
are not private, and the lawsuit alleges that people of
other genders could see each other using the bathroom, which
is pretty disgusting. I've linked to the lawsuit. You can
read it if you want.
Speaker 7 (44:44):
To Terror Park Transition, go.
Speaker 8 (44:49):
The jazz b Y Jazz Barry in the jazz rocking
jazz bo.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Ah music to My Ears, Oh boy, okay, abrough shift
in tone. So we got a little bit more details
on the sort of partial agreement that Trump and the
Chinese government have sort of come to that has staved
off some of the most disastrous of the new trade
war elements. Both sides seem to have gotten rid of
(45:25):
the fees from ships both docking at their ports and
also on like the sort of complicated shipbuilding stuff we
talked about last year. The US has paused the thing
we talked about last week where they were using the
Foreignansity list to do anything that was controlled that was
like forty percent or more controlled by a thing on
(45:47):
the foreignansity list couldn't be traded with. The US is
backing off on that for a year. Chinese agreed to
buy more soybeans. There's also some discussion of China buying
more energy products. But this is one of these things
that we just we have no idea what that is.
It's possible by the time you're listening to this, there
will be information. All we have is buy more energy.
(46:08):
And the last thing that Trump said that didn't seem
to be part of the negotiations between him and the
Chinese government per se, but we're definitely part of negotiations
that have been going on between Trump and his cabinet
was that there's going to be restrictions on AI chip exports.
Oh though exactly what is not known. All Trump said
(46:29):
was quote the most advanced we will not let anybody
have them other than the United States. What this seems
to be, and again everyone is kind of murkily hobbling
together whatever information they have. What it seems to be
is Trump stopped in Vidia from selling its most advanced
AI grade chips called Blackwell, to China, which was which
(46:52):
Nvidia has been massively lobbying for because they need to
expand their market to continue the giant bubble that they've accumulated.
Trump has stopped them. It's unclear whether this is going
to be made into formal policy or if Trump is
just going to personally intervene every time a CEO asked
him to do this. But yeah, we also have so
today recording November fifth is the start of the Supreme
(47:13):
Court case against the tariffs. I think it's worth noting
that this court case against the tariffs, it's framed as
like a lot of small businesses brought this lawsuit, and
they did. But also the reason it's gotten to the
Supreme Court is because they're being backed by a huge
player in the conservative legal machine. Almost the entire thing
is being funded and paid for by the Liberty Justice Center,
(47:34):
which is it's a kind of libertarian right wing legal
thing backed by like the Walton family and the Coke Network.
And this is I think one of the most direct
and interesting actual oppositional moves we've seen from this wing
of the libertarian business wing of the party, which is very,
very pissed off at the tariffs. We've seen a whole
(47:54):
bunch of amicus curia briefs from the American Enterpresents, the
Tree and the Cato Institute, and a whole bunch of
other wrote wing think tanks who are extremely angry about this.
We don't know exactly how it's going to go, but
the initial arguments do not seem to be going well
for the Trope administration. So that'll that'll be unfolding, and
we'll report on it. More is as we know more.
(48:16):
It's this is literally recording the first day of trials.
So and finally I'm going to close on a genuinely
deeply baffling piece of news, which is that the day
before the election in New York, Great Abbott posted that
there would be a one hundred percent tariff on anyone
moving to New York after the election.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Yeah, how does that work?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Isn't it moving to Texas from New York?
Speaker 7 (48:40):
Well, I thought it was to New York.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
It's for me, it looked like moving to New York
as well.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I mean, it's certainly unclear, because this doesn't not seem
like a policy proposal. It seems more like a post.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
It's just a post. It's someone post posting through it.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Because this from moving from New York to Texas. Yeah,
any one moving from New York to Texas.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
Interesting. I don't know that tariffs are just posts now,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's not like a thing that there's law around you
being able to do.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
No, it's it's so one constitution. I think it's just
a post. I don't think it is anything like is.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Yeah, I mean evidently, I think the interesting thing about
it is like is the way in which tariffs have
come to be seen in their Republican mind as like
this is something you do to people you're mad at,
which is very new development in this is this is
a this is a pure Trump too phenomena effectively.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well absolutely yeah, a marker of how intensely they're paying
attention to this election. Like I mean, Abbots said doing
this because I'm sure it'll show show up his local popularity.
But it's a marker of like a change that has
been going on that that has been really like supercharged
(49:53):
in the Trump era of No, No, you can't have
local politics, like it's it's all national politics and any
kind of vote at a state or local level that
goes against whatever the party wants is something to be punished,
like even if it's two thousand miles away. And that
is that hasn't been as dominant in US politics as
(50:17):
it has been recently. We should probably talk a little
bit about Texas's election night, because that was also pretty consequential.
There were seventeen ballot measures passed by the Texas legislature
earlier this year by a two thirds majority, And the
way Texas law works is that once the legislature votes
for a ballot measure to two thirds majority, it becomes
(50:39):
a constitutional amendment after a simple majority of voters on
a ballot support it. And there were seventeen measures on
the ballot in Texas, which is wild, very few states
and constitutional amendments that the rate Texas dons and all
of them passed, which is nuts, and some of them
are like fine. There was want to create like a
(51:00):
three billion dollar fund for dementia research with like which
is like whatever, and nobody's got a problem with that really.
Some questions about implementation maybe, but there's some absolutely bug
fuck nuts stuff in here. Proposition thirteen raised the homestead
exemption from one hundred thousand dollars to one hundred and
forty thousand dollars. It was passed by about eighty percent
of voters. This lowers the taxable value of a home,
(51:22):
which reduces overall tax bills on your primary residence. Per
an article in the Houston Chronicle, the amendments will be
especially felt by elderly or disabled Texans who are poised
to receive a separate tax, a separate break that brings
their total property tax exemptions to two hundred thousand. As
a result, roughly half of seniors and people with disabilities
living in Harris and Bear Counties will no longer pay
(51:43):
any school property taxes. Jesus I should have to say
how bad that is for Texas schools and in general.
This A lot of these ballot measures were about making
heavy cuts and making it impossible to raise new revenue.
The cuts that are just in these ballot measures are
going to cost the state about four billion dollars over
the next two years. Right, But that's not all that
(52:06):
was done. Several of the bills that were passed banned
the potential to create new taxes. Right, So it is
now illegal in Texas to create taxes on capital gains
or taxes on the growth of assets like property in stocks,
or taxes on inheritance, and to state taxes. Taxes on
(52:26):
the operations of stock exchanges are now banned because several
have announced plans to open in taxes. Right, So you
are looking at I think the estimate here that I'm
seeing in the chronicles articles that the states can spend
about fifty one billion dollars over the coming biennium to
pay for the new cuts and maintain existing ones. Texas
is a state that has had for quite a while
(52:46):
a budget surplus, and they are basically lighting a lot
of that on fire to appeal to rich people and
business Note owners in stock exchanges to take their assets
to Texas. You won't have to help society if you
come to Texas. We don't have a society in Texas, right,
And that agenda did very well in Texas.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
Jeez. Anyway, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
I guess the last thing I want to talk about
a little bit, since we've got a couple of minutes
here is the question on everybody's mind. Should I be
flying anywhere for the holidays? Is that going to be
a good idea? We're I'm saying this a day after
a horrific crash of a UPS flight over Muhammad Ali
International Airport in Louisville, right, which I mean, I think
(53:35):
seven was the death toll last I saw night maarish fireballs.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
I mean at nine this morning?
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Is it at nine? Because the plane just the engine
caught on fire basically on takeoff, and normally, from what
I'm reading from pilots, normally that should have been a
manageable problem. But because it happened during the ascent, which
is the most dangerous part of piloting a plane and
where you have the least control, they were not able
to recover or gain any kind of control. And the
(54:02):
plane basically plowed directly into a UPS warehouse, And it
was loaded with something like three hundred thousand pounds worth
of fuel because it was about to fly to Honolulu,
so it was as full of fuel as a big
plane can be, and just a horrific crash. Is this
tied to the fact that you have a lot of
federal employees furloughed? Is it tied more just to the
(54:25):
fact that the FAA is not functioning the way it
should be or used to as a result of changes
the Trump administration made as soon as they came to power.
I think it's too early to say that, but this
is part of a pattern of pretty disastrous near misses
that absolutely can be attributed to things like the air
traffic controller shortage and the fact that there's just a
(54:47):
lot less safety precautions being taken. And this is something
the administration is aware of and has become critical enough
that they're no longer able to deny it. Secretary of
Transportations Sean Duffy on Monday said that all commercial flights
might be stopped nationwide to protect public safety, and they
were certainly going to need to cut off flights in
(55:09):
specific parts of the countries at times as a result
of the ATC shortage.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Basically, there's different like grids that the country is divided into,
and you might have to shut down one or more
of those at a time in order to make the
shortage of air traffic controllers able to handle the rest
of the load.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
For an example of how bad this can get locally,
on last Friday in New York State, eighty percent of
air traffic controllers did not show up for work. So
this is a potentially pretty calamitous problem. There have been
ground delays on Monday for three major Texas airports in Austin,
Dallas Fort Worth, and Dallas love Field. And this is
just in general, a problem that's only going to get
(55:49):
worse as the shutdown looms, because I've seen some interviews
with air traffic controllers where like one guy was like, look,
we're not getting medicine for my kid and she'll die
without it. It's just not coming in. How do you
expect me to be a fucking air traffic controller right,
like the hardest job in the country that requires absolutely
perfect concentration at all times without ever fucking up or
(56:09):
hundreds of people die. So I don't know to answer
the question of like, should you fly be planning flights
for this holiday season? You should certainly get the flight
and share its and be paying attention the days before
as to what's happening if the shutdown doesn't end, because
right now we are seeing delays the likes of which
(56:30):
haven't really been seen since maybe either the pandemic probably
before nine to eleven was kind of the last time
things were this completely fucked. Garrison can tell you how
much of a fucking nightmare they had coming back. And
it's not just in the United States. By the way,
multiple major airports in Europe over the last week and
change have had to shut down entirely or partly because
(56:50):
of unauthorized or unknown drone flights in their airspace. That's
just going globally. Air travel is not doing well.
Speaker 5 (57:01):
Yeah, Russia's been probing Europe with these or lands for
a little while. Yeah. I think all then know Roberts
flowing Garrison. I have flown this month. It fucking sucks.
Use a credit card if you can when they had
some protections, but maybe maybe consider not flying right now.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, just you know, keep an eye on things. I
don't know what else to tell you.
Speaker 5 (57:21):
Yeah, it's great. Everything's going great. That is the slogan.
Everything's going great.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
You know, there's been worse times.
Speaker 2 (57:29):
There's been worse time, Yeah, the Blitz.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Yeah, talking of worse times. Lots of people are hungry,
right because we are we're fucking with people's snap benefits
now as part of the culture war. Lots of people
are very worried about where their food is going to
come from. Right, and we're entering a time of year,
you know, kids are going to be off school, there's
lots of places you can still get your free school meals,
(57:52):
but it's a difficult time for people. It's difficult time
for people to feed their families. I wanted to plug.
We All we Got is San Diego group. What they're
doing it is helping people be able to rely on
them by delivering groceries to them right and the way
that they most need support is for people to sign
up to regularly donate a certain amount. I'm not going
(58:13):
to tell you how much you can donate, but if
you're able to, that will give them the ability to
plan to secure groceries for people they're supporting. The way
you can find their website is to go to we
All we Got sd dot com slash donate. Also, if
you want to reach out to us and you want
to do it in an encrypted way, you could send
(58:34):
an email from your proton mail address to our proton
mail address, which is cool Zone Tips at proton dot me.
If you're a marketing person and you want your client
to be a guest on our podcast, don't email us.
I'm just going to fucking block you. That's that's That's
all I have to say about that. If you want
to have to plug your product, I will also fucking
(58:55):
block you.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
We reported the.
Speaker 7 (59:00):
Reported the news.
Speaker 1 (59:09):
It could Happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media.
For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website
coolzonmedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can
now find sources for it could Happen here listed directly
in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening.
It Could Happen Here News
Hosts And Creators
Robert Evans
Garrison Davis
James Stout
Show Links
AboutPopular Podcasts
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.