March 12, 2024 • 35 mins
Gare, Robert, and Mia discuss the conspiracy theory that the government is preparing the public for revolution, collapse, and civil war.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Cool Zone Media.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back to it could Happen here. I'm Garrison Davis.
I'm joined by Mia and Robert to discuss predictive programming.
So last episode we talked about the origin of this
conspiracy theory, how this Canadian Scottish conspiracy theorist named Alan
Watt came up with this idea that through Hollywood movies,
TV books, video games, the secret couple of shadowy governments
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is trying to subliminally prepare us to accept planned events
as they take place in the future by putting little hints, shadows,
and seeds into our everyday entertainment diet. One of the
oldest examples that conspiracy theorists will point to you as
an example of predictive programming is this book from the
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late eighteen hundreds called Futility that talks about a fictional
ship called the titan which was thought to be completely
unsyn which eventually crashed on an iceberg and sank. This
obviously it mirrors what happened to the Titanic in the
decades to follow, So, yeah, what are we talking about
this sort of stuff? Last episode ended in our discussion
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of the Hunger Games. I found this old conspiracy blog
by this British guy named Neil where he talks about
all of his theories surrounding the Hunger Games, books and movies,
So we will return to hear Neil's thoughts on the
predictive programming implanted into the Hunger Games. Neil also has
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fascinating opinions on trains. He really doesn't like that in
the Hunger Games there is a big train system which
he links to like the which he links to the
European Union's future train plan as well as as well
as like high speed rail plans for North America, which
he is very against because do you know who else
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used trains?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Was it the Nazis?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Garretton, It's the Nazis?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Is it the Nazis?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's the Nazis?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know you can tell this is an older conspiracy
because they because they're actually using the Nazis as the
people who use trains and not like the Soviet Union.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think Neil just really likes driving and he thinks
that driving is like the epitome of freedom. So he
talks about how like trains are trying to control which
areas of the country you can go to instead of
the freedom of the open road.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I got stuck behind a train and traffic on my
way to the airport, very frustrated to make me late
to this call. So I actually I think he's right.
I'm on board now.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He also rants about this, this this nineteen ninety two
UN plan called Agenda twenty one about like a big
environmental management plan with highly condensed human settlement zones. This
is something that both John Birch and Glenn Beck were
also like, really.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Oh, Alex Jones is huge on. Yeah, this was the
entire conspiracy ecosystem for about fifteen years. Couldn't shut the
fuck up out agenda to anyone. Some of them still
go on about it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So Neil's upset because that looks similar to like the
map of like because PanAm is in like a post
climate collapse, we have these very condensed areas of settlement
and like a vast like unusable land mass in America.
So he has he has this whole thing about that.
He he doesn't like that President No looks like the
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Saturnian figure of Kronos, the father of time, who devours children,
just like just like how President Snow sacrifices children to
maintain like societal control of PanAm in the Hunger Games.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
You know, let him see my bed, my bathroom. That'll
uh yeah really good. In the center of some I
have a giant copy of the Saturn eating his Son painting.
That's like right next to my toilet. It's great painting.
Also not necessarily about that. They just found a painting
of a guy eating a guy, and we're like, it's
probably Saturn that this guy was trying to bait.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That is the research quality that Neil also does. He's like, yeah,
it's probably all these things.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Seems like it's Saturn.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, it seems like it's Saturned.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, kind of uncomfortable to imagine it's anyone else.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Neil also compares The Hunger Games to China's one child
policy and the population reduction conspiracy theories of Agenda twenty one.
Just like in the Hunger Games, it's about having children
kill each other, just like the one child policy.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, that's that's how China does the one child policy.
Other children are told to kill.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The family back on the Revolutionary tract quote. I can't
confirm that Susan Collins used the archetype of Artemis for
her character of Catnus, But what can be observed is
how this female role model is a symbol for revolution,
a new order, and more importantly, a new world system.
This is clearly the blueprint for a new America. So
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part of this blueprint that he talks about is like
implanted microchips and a brutal police state that arrests and
kills protesters, unlike our current police state, which would never
arrest or kill a protester. Yeah, and everyone just carries
micro trips around. Yeah yeah, now more more devious than
the murder happy police. Neil finds the bird symbolism to
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be including Catnus's dress, which transforms into the mocking jay symbol, which,
according to Neil looks quote remarkably like a Benu bird
of Egypt, as well as a phoenix, especially when encircled
in fire quote. The phoenix a classic mystery school symbol
that relates to the unseen forces that transforms the world.
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Both Catnus and Pete's costumes set a fire as they
enter the arena before the tournament, with Catnus becoming the
bird on fire. She's the embodiment of the coming transformation,
the beginning and the end. Catinus and Peda are symbols
of Artemis and Apollo, the twins and children of the
New World Order of Gods. Smokeless fire is also a
major symbol used by the Illuminati and as their vehicle
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to communicate with the Arkans. He never goes into further
detail of.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
A Yes, smokeless powder is what made warpop, so you know,
we've there's other things. It's not just the Illuminati. We
use it for fireworks too.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Catnus is the woman closed in fire sun in the
Book of Revelation and the EU, the United Nations, and
the Security Council replicate the symbolism a phoenix rising out
of the tyranny and war. It's all reversed symbolism, of course,
because these bodies are set to administer the World Army,
Police and the future New World Order unquote. Though he's
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there complaining about a United Nations mural that was made
after World War Two about a phoenix of peace rising
from the ashes of war and houses actually reversed symbolism
because they're actually going to be, you know, laying out
this global one world government calling it peace. You know.
He also talks more about the Book of Revelation and
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how twelve and thirteen combined and the unification of the
new world, just like in the Bible. And then finally
to get to three that three finger salute quote, it's
interesting when you dig a little deeper and find that
Catnus's salute is reminiscent of a certain Nazi youth salutes
found in Eastern Europe in the late nineteen thirties. He's
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and he's also quite concerned by the new adoption of
the salute by the Girl Scouts, despite the three finger
salute being used in Scout organizations for over a century.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, yeah, yeah, like the boy Scouts have a
lot are sinister, but not because of the salute. Now,
is the least of the problems with the Scout was
a brief moment of reprieve for a lot of those
boys getting to do a salute.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And then he also says, quote, it's no surprise that
the mocking jpin also looks similar to a Nazi gunner badge, because,
as I've already shown, the bird is the symbol for
the power of revolution, a new order that goes all
the way back to the Holy Roman Empire.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And these are the guys will be like, look the
mocking jay symbol it's similar to then they'll see like
a Scout sniper flag that looks like the SS logo
and go, well, there's clearly nothing related to.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That, and then we will we will close this by
continuing on the revolutionary elements quote what kind of revolution
does catnus symbolize? Are the youth of today being readied
for another revolution followed by another dictatorship? How many more
celebrities are we going to see being used as a
mouthpiece for revolution. I am all for peaceful revolution based
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on respect and love, but the movies never portray that
kind of revolution. A peaceful revolution is one inspired by
the inner world of imagination and not necessarily the outer
world of this five sensus. The type of revolution that
the elite would want us to unfold here would be
one born of pandemonium. The illuminati, in those in control
of the current global empire in the making, love to
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hide their agenda in plain sight within commercial so called
fictitious movies and in the media industry in general. The
Hunger Games is the script for the ttalitarian elite ruled
brutal police state, the agendas repeatedly being laid out in
front of our very eyes, both in real everyday life
and in things we choose to expose ourselves within the
so called entertainment industry.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
That's one of these things where all of these conspiracy
theories center around the fact that people, for reasons that
are incomprehensible to be believed that the thing the US
government wants you to do is shoot guns at them.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, right, No, No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I guarantee they don't want you to shoot machine guns
out there.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
They like you to spend money and go to work.
That's the primary thing the US government wants you to do.
Pay your taxes without too much fuss.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Do you know what else the US government wants you
to do, Robert.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I know a number of things the US government wants
me to do, Garrison, but I won't. I will not
stop telling people to take colloidal silver for all of
their health care problems. The only way to really carry
out the revolution starts with putting silver in your body.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
All right, we are back. I've actually always wanted to
do the topical silver and get that like blue skin.
I thought that'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You have to do a lot of it, cares.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm well aware, like we can.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Achieve this with body paint.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I do find it very funny that they're so obsessed
with like the Hunger Games as this like this is
the elite showing you how they're going to crack down
on all of us. And then when it actually when
the Hunger Games inspires an actual revolution, it's like the
one that gets no support from any like Spook agency
in the the only one. There's no CIA, no FSB,
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fucking nothing like it's it's just a bunch of teenagers
and their books and three D printers.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I mean, And like looking back at at that Hunger
Game section, it's always interesting how people like this they're
like in the real world, very like pro police in
a lot of cases, but then also being like they're
trying to instill a police state, right, It's they get
to eat their cake and have it too, where they
are both pro law enforcement but also anti this like
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imagined evil version of law enforcement. That's always like right
on the cusp of being introduced, there's a.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Through line there, which is that they are anti whatever
it seems like people are telling them is like obviously, okay,
it's it's oppositional, definant. It's the same reason why, like
you think that you're on, you're living in a normal earth,
so it's got to be a hollow earth, right, Like
it's this if something is popular, if a movie's popular,
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it can't just be a movie that people liked. And
if it's like, you know, I saw a Hunger Game,
the first Hunger Games movie, and I tried to read
the books and I was like, nah, I can't read
these you know, they're not they were not written for me.
Like it's it's just I was not interested in them.
And that's all I really thought about it. But like
certain people, if they see something popular and they don't
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immediately fall in love with it, they have to come
up with some reason why it's sinister. And it's the
same thing that leads them to reject everything else, right that, Like,
if other people like something and I don't get it,
or I feel weird or don't understand it, then it
has to be a fucking conspiracy. Like that used to
be one percent of this country, and through social media
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it's become like half of us because it's a deeply
addictive way to feel.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think the most sinister thing about the new Hunger
Games is that they did not put nearly enough Hunter
Shafer in that movie.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
So let's know who that is.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Let's continue to the last.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's got to be predictive hunter Shaver. So they wanted.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Okay, so this is like very clearly, well, no, I
could go into like I could go into like they're
trying to make the kids trans right, they wanted to
like hunt down their parents shaved right in Shave you
know Earth. Well, I'm saying you could easily turn it
into a conspiracy theory, Garrison, you could make it work.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So last thing we are to talk about the new
hit movie Leave the World Behind. Garrison made me watch this.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm never gonna forgive them for it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
One of it is. It is one of the most
recent examples of a movie sparking predictive programming conspiracies. It's
by the creator of mister Robot, which retroactively makes mister
Robot much worse. Now. There is a few reasons why
this movie has caused so much uproar, a major factor
being that it's produced by the Obamas, as in the
Presidents Very responsible. There is, there is, there's Havana syndrome
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references discussion of an evil cabal that runs the world
plans to collapse The United States and the two child
leads wear t shirts that read obey and NASA, respectively,
which has been the cause of a lot of discourse.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
NASA, Yeah, the left's long term plan.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Look, several of the letters in NASA are also in Stalin.
Are you gonna tell me that's a coincidence?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah? Probably, I will, I will now, I will now
share this, share this clip from Steve Bannon, who had
a Dutch far right e girl on his show to
discuss the movie.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
He's doing good, then, So he's doing good. That's good.
I was worried about Steve.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Okay, So we see a movie here now that is
co produced by the Obamas about the potential potential cyber
attack which causes mayhem obviously, and I saw it and
it reminded me an awful lot of the narrative portrayed
in a video published about two years ago by the
World Economic Forum. And this was a video in which
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they supposedly warned us for a cyber pandemic. Interesting choice
of words there, And they detail what could happen if
we are under a cyber attack, and that the only
way that we could solve an attack like that would
be to disconnect everything and everyone completely from the Internet.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So I figured this.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Seems to me like a classic case of predictive programming
where not just the World Economic Forum, but now also
through movies and you know, fictional stories, they are trying
to prepare public to the idea of cyber attacks and
the potential chaos that could come with that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So that is that is her her big problems with
the movie, which we'll see we'll see echoed in a
lot of the people we talk about here with the
World Economic Forums warning about a big cyber attack. She
then went on to rant about the movies anti white sentiments,
probably from the Obama's involvement.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Clearly, yeah she has.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
She has almost a million followers followers on Twitter. It
is wild also because she's Dutch. Her last name is
and I shit you not Vlardinger broke so great, great
stuff happening in the Dutch.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, what is that predicting?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
For a summary of the movie, all at this conspiracy theory,
TikTok explain the basic themes that we'll be discussing here.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Essentially, the movie is about the downfall of civilization and
how it's done in three steps, her step being that
the government is going to be tappled from within the
next one that it's going to be literally with disinformation
and misinformation to confuse the masses and to create chaos.
The third step, if the first and second step are
done correctly, is going to cause basically a civil war,
causing the paranoid and problematic to start turning on each other.
The little girl is obsessed with the last episode of Friends,
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called How It Ends, which is interesting because the star
of the movie, Julia Roberts, also dated Matthew Perry way
way back, Matthew Perry, who also passed away earlier this year.
The movie also references like billionaires and their bunkers, and
it references the Cabal on way more than one occasion.
The heart of it is that the cabal has fallen
and so nobody is in charge, and this is what's
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leading to the fall of the United States of America. Essentially,
it has a very predictive programming feel to it, and
I mean with the Obamas and the constant references to water.
Planes crash in the water and a boat called the
White Lion runs up on shore from the ocean. Everybody
wants water, They're constantly drinking water. Here's some water you
want some water. Then the Obama chef just drowned. I
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can't watch anything anymore. I can't enjoy any summon up.
The entire movie itself doesn't even have a plot. There's
no real storyline to this movie, and the ending is awful.
If I if I were not paying attention like I am,
I would think the movie would be terrible. There's no resolution,
there's no real start. It just seems like it's just here,
just here, it's just telling you and one more thing.
It talks about microwave e MP.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like, Okay, that's that's. That's that.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Their brains are so melted that like they can't see
a movie made in the image of all of their
fears is made in the image of all their fears.
Like the whole it's so sunsettling. It doesn't even start properly.
It's just it just begins. You're just in it, like Noah, man,
that's it's kind of how a movie goes.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I like how she talks about she like she like
can't enjoy movies anymore, which is like the end result
of all these all these conspiracy theorists, like they just
they just can't enjoy life because they see everything as
this series of like interconnected incidents leading to some kind
of grand narrative that makes it impossible to like actually
like be happy, which is probably the funniest thing. Also
that she thinks the movie predicted the death of the
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Obama's chef, which I don't don't know if that's real.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Yeah, if you're one of these people, that's the most
significant thing that's happened the last eighteen months. The Obama
chef and Matthew Perry are like the Rosetta Stone for
everything that's wrong in society, and not just two people
who died because it's a year.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Because Matthew Perry used to date Jessica Roberts, who's the
star of the Verbe, of course, and there's friends references
all throughout the film, so it's all connected.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Subtle friends' references, very subtleind you miss him if you
don't pay attention.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So the last conspiracy theorist want to talk about is
this like metaphysical influencer named Tristan Haggard who spends most
of his time on stream selling hormone supplements for men
so that they could boost their testosterone and stop being
soy boys. While discussing various conspiracies, love it, he says,
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quote cyber attacks, bio warfare, weaponized limes disease, lone star tick,
chronic wasting, disease, things that get you to stop eating meat.
These things, these types of these types of programs are
seated throughout the film. I feel like the tick bite
and a lot of that stuff might have been a
little bit of that DARPA extracurricular script editions. Yeah, yeah, unquote.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yeah, sure, yeah, of course. The fact that a kid
gets a bit by a tick and gets all fucked
up is like trying to stop you from eating a try.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
To stop you from eating meat. Quote. I feel like
the average norm you might not put together the limes disease,
possible bioepon connection unquote amazing. Yeah, I don't think the
average normy might might not put that one together.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You know, that does suggest to me that all these
people are gonna die in thirty seconds if there's any
real kind of unrest because their attitude towards the idea
of disease that was planted by.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
The New World Order.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, people won't get sick now. These two guys on
this stream also said that they they had to stop
watching mister Robot in the third season because there were
too many quote unquote gay scenes, which is really funny.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I had to stop watching it in this first season
because I don't like Remy Malick. But you know, see
I I are built different.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I had. I had to keep watching just for Christians later,
but that's just me.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
He did make it hard to quit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah. Yeah, So most of the time these two guys
on their conspiracy podcast just complain about how Ethan Hawk
is a weak little soy boy, and all of the
and and and and all and all of the quote
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unquote by POC people were more like put together and
more commanding. They constantly say bye Palk, which is an
interesting choice from that that is really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Actually, since Marshall Ali's daughter isn't really a character in
that movie. Marsha law Ali is okay because he's a great,
great actor, but like, it's not like it's not like
all of the characters who aren't white or like written
stirringly well, most of the characters of this movie are
written like dog shit eates things.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, but Tristan here says, quote there's so much predictive
programming and social engineering of how the mechanics of possible
collapse of the power grid, collapse and the communications would
result in basically chaos. And then I have I have
this little clip here of him talking about the big
cyber attack.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Right now, a lot of people are saying, well, this
is predictive programming. They're going to do this cyber attack.
And you know, we've been talking about this type of
stuff for years, right with the cyber Polygon exercises and
the World Economic Forum, and you're working with U defense
contractors in military intelligence was not working on the possible
scenario of a cyber attack, right The cyber attack is
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one of these scenarios that they're saying it's gotta happen.
It's coming, the big cyber attacks coming. But I feel
like films like this the intention could be to make
people so afraid of just the mere possibility of a
total collapse like.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
This, so they obviously sound like they know what they're
talking about there. That's very very very polished. Now Tristan
thinks that he has a better idea to kind of
seed collapse quote. A better way to implement this would
be to not really roll out a huge wide scale
power outages and communications outages but make it up protracted,
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small and localized so that you can still maintain a
certain level of propaganda and control and then create enough
fear to where people will accept the mandatory digital ID
for the Internet and the Central Bank digital currencies and whatnot.
It's like a limited type of thing, a regional type
of thing that then is hyped up to be the
worst thing ever unquote. These guys are really like talking
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about this mandatory digital ID and the central bank digital
currencies as being this big threat and there's gonna just
be and any day this this this cyber attack which
is gonn, which is gonna force us to all adopt
this this uh, this digital ID to be able to
sign into the internet.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
All you have to do is have most of the
normal people afraid enough of the possible scenario and tease it.
It's almost like a cyber attack brinksmanship type of thing unquote,
so they think that, you know, you don't actually need
to have the cyber attack, You just need to have
people afraid enough that it could happen by by talking
about it in media, film, TV, you know, all all
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this sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
You can't even get people to like change their passwords like.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And it's so funny because like the past few months,
there actually has been a decent number of.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Cyber attacks constantly, yes, which are.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, like a very like a constant influx, which are
all just being constantly handled. And it's it's not led
to any of these massive apocalyptic scenarios that that that
they're talking about, know.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I mean, like the movie has part of how the
movie has to make this, like has to make it,
Like why the movie is set in the middle of
nowhere is that if it's set in a city and
the internet goes out, the way people would actually respond
would be like the way they respond when there's just
some sort of random outage initially like like oh shit,
my phone doesn't work right now, I guess I've got
to figure something else out for a second. Like it's
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it's easier to have it seem disconnected and like completely
disorienting when you have everybody like out in the middle
of nowhere without other people around to make shit makes sense.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm going to play Well one more clip from from
Tristan's livestream here.
Speaker 10 (24:40):
I feel like, well, also, I mean they haven't they've
been building all of this technocracy stuff to throw it away. Thanks, Right,
they've been building it to implement it, so if there
was an outage or the cyber attack or whatever, this
would be some temporary, limited thing, you know, hyped up
into oblivion and oh it was all the Trump maga people,
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or it was all the Christians that did it to
go working with Russia. Right, that's what they're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, totally. They're gonna blame the big cyber attack
on the Trump Christians. That's Timby, who's gonna who's gonna
launch the big attack?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Totally absolutely to everyone will assume knew how to do
hack is the Trumpers. Yeah, we taught him how to
change the settings on their smart TV.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And now they've hacked the planet.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What do you do? As as soon as you turn
off motion smoothing, then you're ready to go. They're gonna
hack the system, get in, shut everything down. Oh so
this Tristan guy was getting like hundreds of dollars in
super chats on this stream. He's he's verified on YouTube.
He has over one hundred thousand subscribers, and he is
one of the has some of the like not not
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very hidden anti Semitism, but like I am kind of
surprised that he's able to say as much as he
is while still being verified and getting all this money,
because he has this line towards the end of his
of his stream quote, the little girl is inside the
house with the bunker that everyone else was trying to
go to, and she's sitting at the table surrounded by
like goy slop. She's just got all the freaking kibble
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foods like Funians and Doritos. She's having a feast of gluttony.
It's all freaking globo homo kibble, fruity pebbles and stuff.
She's just gluttonously consuming a bunch of you know, trash
processed foods. She's just all alone, just looking kind of autistic.
Unquote what the fuck? So, Yeah, he's just talking about
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like goy slop. Like there's like the like like the
Jews are creating junk food to pacify.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I want you to eat worms and stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, exactly. So that that is most of most of
his interesting opinions. I'll leave the world behind a pretty
a pretty bad movie.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
A pretty bad movie.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
You know, there's one real conspiracy theory about it, and
it has nothing to do with the Obamas or predict programming,
we see a character at the beginning of the movie,
a survivalist prepping to take care of his family even
though no one knows a disastro is coming. And later
near the end of the movie, when Ethan Hawk's son
is sick, we meet the survivalist again. It turns out
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he's a handyman who lives in the edge of town,
and he's played by Kevin Bacon now Garrison. In the
classic film Trimmers, Kevin Bacon plays a handyman character who
with his friend Earl Bassett played by Fred Ward, has
to fight off an attack by subterranean ancient giant worm
beasts in order to save himself in his small community
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and Dune in just like Dune Garrison and in the
Lore of the Trimmers movies Val McKee. Kevin Bacon's character
is not seen in further movies because he gets rich
and he marries Ronda le Beck and they move off somewhere.
Maybe they move to the northeast to an island off
the coast of the East Coast, where he bought a
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house and became a survivalist prepper, informed by his experiences
with his good friend Bert Gummer. The local survivalist who
shot a giant worm to death and maybe leave the
world behind, as a stealth sequel to the first Trimmers movie,
showing what Kevin Bacon's character does later in life.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I would be so much more of a fan of
Sam s Mill if he if he tried to, if
he tried to put the Tremor's movies into the canon
of mister Robot like.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
It would have been, It would have been perfect. I
would have completely changed my opinion on this movie. He
shout up to Kevin Bacon's house and he'd come out
with a gun, and they'd been like, look, we just
need some antibiotics. And He's like antibiotics, what about the
fucking worms? How are you people walking around? And then
the movie ends. At the end of the movie, it
was all a Trimmer's sequel.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You you you Korean Iranian terrorists went into the wrong reckcrooit.
So I lastly just want to talk a little bit
about some of like, you know, the obvious problems with
this diictive programming idea. Right, it completely annoys the fact
that humans use art as a form of cultural creation,
like we imagine futures in our art, specifically because they
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could come into being. Like a lot of a lot
of like sci fi that influences technology comes from this.
That's also kind of the basis of Mark Fisher and
Nick Lan's like a cultural hyperstition where you specifically make
art to have this larger cultural effect that then it
can bring things into being as opposed to the more
like individualistic use of like occultism. And then a big,
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a big part of all of this, this predictive programming
thing is also just like apaphenia, right It's it's people
creating connections and patterns and random data because it's it's
actually easy to look back and pick out past media
that has seemingly predicted events, but it's much harder to
identify current media that is actually predicting future events.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
This is this is a part of hindsight bias. The
tendency that we have to look at past events is
more predictable than what they actually were. It is it's
a common psychological response to a traumatic event like like
a big pandemic or a school shooting. There's also you know,
all of these all of these predictive programming theories fall
into these kind of contradictory depictions, which is why the
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which is why the Hunger Games guy like uh calls
it like reverse symbolism. Right, it's it's if this if
if predictive programming is orchestrated by a shadowy cabal seeking
to implement a totalitarian takeover by normalizing an incredibly oppressive government. Uh,
in media and film TV, why is the said media
almost exclusively about like rebel heroes overthrowing and evil to
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talitarian government. Right, it doesn't, it doesn't actually match. And
there's been a lot of like cultural studies showing that
whether you portray something in media as positive or negative
will strongly affect the audience's takeaway of the stimulus. So
if you show something positively, they're more like they're more
likely to view it as a positive thing. If you
show something negatively, they're more likely to view it as
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a negative thing. Right, this this, this sounds very obvious,
but you do have to do like social science to
actually like show this is a real pattern. And then finally,
I will I will end this by quoting from that
that article from the Ohio State University quote. There are
a few purposes for predictive programming, and not all of
them have to deal with tyranny. Some of them are
meant to lessen the blow of an event like nine
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to eleven or as previously mentioned, at the Sandy Hook shootings.
The contradiction arises when thinking about why the government would
want to warn us or prepare us for Sandy Hook.
The whole point of Sandy Hook conspiracies is to doubt
the event even happened, so the government would create a
conversation around gun control. This would defeat the purpose of
staging it if the government was trying to ensure a
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smaller or inexistent response unquote. Especially like looking back at
what we talked about with like the Simpsons, it's just
a fun game people play, right Like it sounds like
a fun a fun world to live in. If you
can imagine this interconnected web connecting every single thing that
happens to your own experiences, it's it's it's it's a
way to turn turn the world into like this, this
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great mystery that you can instead of just like experiences
that you have to live through.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
These people need real hobbies.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Like Finally, the thing I wanted to mention is that
the the upcoming discussion of predictive programming is all centered
around this movie coming out next month called Civil War,
which many many of these people in their discussion of
Leave the World Behind are are are very much talking
about how Civil War just seems like a sequel to
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Leave the World Behind, because Leave the World Behind seems
like it's set up like a possible American civil war,
and how this upcoming movie is itself going to be
a massive predictive programming operation to prepare American citizens for
civil conflict with each other. So have fun seeing a
whole bunch of conspiracy theories develop around this movie that
comes out next month.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, that'll be that'll be good.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean, I wish people would start some conspiracy theories around.
Alex Garland's TV showed Devs, which is dog shit also
and and one of the one of the worst uses
of that guy from Parks and rec that I've seen
in a long time, heartbreaking. They use math to see
the past, Garrison.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That kind of reminds me of this movie I watched
for research called Knowing with with Nick Cage, who finds
a piece of paper that has something that's able to
predict like catastrophic events. Alex Jones saw this movie predicted
an oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico. But
besides that, you don't see it. You don't really see
it much in these in these circles, despite its very
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like obvious, like predictive focus.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Mostly Dev's features a bunch of very good actors standing
around and staring at a screen where a grainy picture
of Jesus from the past is lit up in like
movie theater size screens like it's it's it's very it's
very mid. That's what I'm saying about DEVS. It's pretty mid.
Folks don't watch DEVS.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, I mean, same same thing with this Obama movie.
So yeah, watch out for the Obama's new movies, which
are all to seed the collapse of humanity, as well
as the A twenty four, the A War movie, which
is probably devious in some way, so have fun with that.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I'll say this, Barack Obama, it's not his fault, obviously
that a bunch of racists lost their mind when he
became president. But knowing that it was kind of responsible
for him to make his debut movie production a movie
about a cabal taking over the government using secret weapons.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Absolutely you knew what was going to happen. Barack you're
not a dumb man.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Tell me that's not what was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Absolutely all right, Well, I think that does it for
us today. Have fun predicting the end of this episode.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back to it could Happen here. I'm Garrison Davis.
I'm joined by Mia and Robert to discuss predictive programming.
So last episode we talked about the origin of this
conspiracy theory, how this Canadian Scottish conspiracy theorist named Alan
Watt came up with this idea that through Hollywood movies,
TV books, video games, the secret couple of shadowy governments
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is trying to subliminally prepare us to accept planned events
as they take place in the future by putting little hints, shadows,
and seeds into our everyday entertainment diet. One of the
oldest examples that conspiracy theorists will point to you as
an example of predictive programming is this book from the
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late eighteen hundreds called Futility that talks about a fictional
ship called the titan which was thought to be completely
unsyn which eventually crashed on an iceberg and sank. This
obviously it mirrors what happened to the Titanic in the
decades to follow, So, yeah, what are we talking about
this sort of stuff? Last episode ended in our discussion
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of the Hunger Games. I found this old conspiracy blog
by this British guy named Neil where he talks about
all of his theories surrounding the Hunger Games, books and movies,
So we will return to hear Neil's thoughts on the
predictive programming implanted into the Hunger Games. Neil also has
(01:36):
fascinating opinions on trains. He really doesn't like that in
the Hunger Games there is a big train system which
he links to like the which he links to the
European Union's future train plan as well as as well
as like high speed rail plans for North America, which
he is very against because do you know who else
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used trains?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Was it the Nazis?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Garretton, It's the Nazis?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Is it the Nazis?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's the Nazis?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know you can tell this is an older conspiracy
because they because they're actually using the Nazis as the
people who use trains and not like the Soviet Union.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think Neil just really likes driving and he thinks
that driving is like the epitome of freedom. So he
talks about how like trains are trying to control which
areas of the country you can go to instead of
the freedom of the open road.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I got stuck behind a train and traffic on my
way to the airport, very frustrated to make me late
to this call. So I actually I think he's right.
I'm on board now.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He also rants about this, this this nineteen ninety two
UN plan called Agenda twenty one about like a big
environmental management plan with highly condensed human settlement zones. This
is something that both John Birch and Glenn Beck were
also like, really.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Oh, Alex Jones is huge on. Yeah, this was the
entire conspiracy ecosystem for about fifteen years. Couldn't shut the
fuck up out agenda to anyone. Some of them still
go on about it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So Neil's upset because that looks similar to like the
map of like because PanAm is in like a post
climate collapse, we have these very condensed areas of settlement
and like a vast like unusable land mass in America.
So he has he has this whole thing about that.
He he doesn't like that President No looks like the
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Saturnian figure of Kronos, the father of time, who devours children,
just like just like how President Snow sacrifices children to
maintain like societal control of PanAm in the Hunger Games.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
You know, let him see my bed, my bathroom. That'll
uh yeah really good. In the center of some I
have a giant copy of the Saturn eating his Son painting.
That's like right next to my toilet. It's great painting.
Also not necessarily about that. They just found a painting
of a guy eating a guy, and we're like, it's
probably Saturn that this guy was trying to bait.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That is the research quality that Neil also does. He's like, yeah,
it's probably all these things.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Seems like it's Saturn.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, it seems like it's Saturned.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, kind of uncomfortable to imagine it's anyone else.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Neil also compares The Hunger Games to China's one child
policy and the population reduction conspiracy theories of Agenda twenty one.
Just like in the Hunger Games, it's about having children
kill each other, just like the one child policy.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, that's that's how China does the one child policy.
Other children are told to kill.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The family back on the Revolutionary tract quote. I can't
confirm that Susan Collins used the archetype of Artemis for
her character of Catnus, But what can be observed is
how this female role model is a symbol for revolution,
a new order, and more importantly, a new world system.
This is clearly the blueprint for a new America. So
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part of this blueprint that he talks about is like
implanted microchips and a brutal police state that arrests and
kills protesters, unlike our current police state, which would never
arrest or kill a protester. Yeah, and everyone just carries
micro trips around. Yeah yeah, now more more devious than
the murder happy police. Neil finds the bird symbolism to
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be including Catnus's dress, which transforms into the mocking jay symbol, which,
according to Neil looks quote remarkably like a Benu bird
of Egypt, as well as a phoenix, especially when encircled
in fire quote. The phoenix a classic mystery school symbol
that relates to the unseen forces that transforms the world.
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Both Catnus and Pete's costumes set a fire as they
enter the arena before the tournament, with Catnus becoming the
bird on fire. She's the embodiment of the coming transformation,
the beginning and the end. Catinus and Peda are symbols
of Artemis and Apollo, the twins and children of the
New World Order of Gods. Smokeless fire is also a
major symbol used by the Illuminati and as their vehicle
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to communicate with the Arkans. He never goes into further
detail of.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
A Yes, smokeless powder is what made warpop, so you know,
we've there's other things. It's not just the Illuminati. We
use it for fireworks too.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Catnus is the woman closed in fire sun in the
Book of Revelation and the EU, the United Nations, and
the Security Council replicate the symbolism a phoenix rising out
of the tyranny and war. It's all reversed symbolism, of course,
because these bodies are set to administer the World Army,
Police and the future New World Order unquote. Though he's
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there complaining about a United Nations mural that was made
after World War Two about a phoenix of peace rising
from the ashes of war and houses actually reversed symbolism
because they're actually going to be, you know, laying out
this global one world government calling it peace. You know.
He also talks more about the Book of Revelation and
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how twelve and thirteen combined and the unification of the
new world, just like in the Bible. And then finally
to get to three that three finger salute quote, it's
interesting when you dig a little deeper and find that
Catnus's salute is reminiscent of a certain Nazi youth salutes
found in Eastern Europe in the late nineteen thirties. He's
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and he's also quite concerned by the new adoption of
the salute by the Girl Scouts, despite the three finger
salute being used in Scout organizations for over a century.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, yeah, yeah, like the boy Scouts have a
lot are sinister, but not because of the salute. Now,
is the least of the problems with the Scout was
a brief moment of reprieve for a lot of those
boys getting to do a salute.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And then he also says, quote, it's no surprise that
the mocking jpin also looks similar to a Nazi gunner badge, because,
as I've already shown, the bird is the symbol for
the power of revolution, a new order that goes all
the way back to the Holy Roman Empire.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And these are the guys will be like, look the
mocking jay symbol it's similar to then they'll see like
a Scout sniper flag that looks like the SS logo
and go, well, there's clearly nothing related to.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That, and then we will we will close this by
continuing on the revolutionary elements quote what kind of revolution
does catnus symbolize? Are the youth of today being readied
for another revolution followed by another dictatorship? How many more
celebrities are we going to see being used as a
mouthpiece for revolution. I am all for peaceful revolution based
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on respect and love, but the movies never portray that
kind of revolution. A peaceful revolution is one inspired by
the inner world of imagination and not necessarily the outer
world of this five sensus. The type of revolution that
the elite would want us to unfold here would be
one born of pandemonium. The illuminati, in those in control
of the current global empire in the making, love to
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hide their agenda in plain sight within commercial so called
fictitious movies and in the media industry in general. The
Hunger Games is the script for the ttalitarian elite ruled
brutal police state, the agendas repeatedly being laid out in
front of our very eyes, both in real everyday life
and in things we choose to expose ourselves within the
so called entertainment industry.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
That's one of these things where all of these conspiracy
theories center around the fact that people, for reasons that
are incomprehensible to be believed that the thing the US
government wants you to do is shoot guns at them.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, right, No, No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I guarantee they don't want you to shoot machine guns
out there.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
They like you to spend money and go to work.
That's the primary thing the US government wants you to do.
Pay your taxes without too much fuss.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Do you know what else the US government wants you
to do, Robert.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I know a number of things the US government wants
me to do, Garrison, but I won't. I will not
stop telling people to take colloidal silver for all of
their health care problems. The only way to really carry
out the revolution starts with putting silver in your body.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
All right, we are back. I've actually always wanted to
do the topical silver and get that like blue skin.
I thought that'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You have to do a lot of it, cares.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm well aware, like we can.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Achieve this with body paint.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I do find it very funny that they're so obsessed
with like the Hunger Games as this like this is
the elite showing you how they're going to crack down
on all of us. And then when it actually when
the Hunger Games inspires an actual revolution, it's like the
one that gets no support from any like Spook agency
in the the only one. There's no CIA, no FSB,
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fucking nothing like it's it's just a bunch of teenagers
and their books and three D printers.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I mean, And like looking back at at that Hunger
Game section, it's always interesting how people like this they're
like in the real world, very like pro police in
a lot of cases, but then also being like they're
trying to instill a police state, right, It's they get
to eat their cake and have it too, where they
are both pro law enforcement but also anti this like
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imagined evil version of law enforcement. That's always like right
on the cusp of being introduced, there's a.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Through line there, which is that they are anti whatever
it seems like people are telling them is like obviously, okay,
it's it's oppositional, definant. It's the same reason why, like
you think that you're on, you're living in a normal earth,
so it's got to be a hollow earth, right, Like
it's this if something is popular, if a movie's popular,
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it can't just be a movie that people liked. And
if it's like, you know, I saw a Hunger Game,
the first Hunger Games movie, and I tried to read
the books and I was like, nah, I can't read
these you know, they're not they were not written for me.
Like it's it's just I was not interested in them.
And that's all I really thought about it. But like
certain people, if they see something popular and they don't
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immediately fall in love with it, they have to come
up with some reason why it's sinister. And it's the
same thing that leads them to reject everything else, right that, Like,
if other people like something and I don't get it,
or I feel weird or don't understand it, then it
has to be a fucking conspiracy. Like that used to
be one percent of this country, and through social media
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it's become like half of us because it's a deeply
addictive way to feel.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I think the most sinister thing about the new Hunger
Games is that they did not put nearly enough Hunter
Shafer in that movie.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
So let's know who that is.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Let's continue to the last.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's got to be predictive hunter Shaver. So they wanted.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Okay, so this is like very clearly, well, no, I
could go into like I could go into like they're
trying to make the kids trans right, they wanted to
like hunt down their parents shaved right in Shave you
know Earth. Well, I'm saying you could easily turn it
into a conspiracy theory, Garrison, you could make it work.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So last thing we are to talk about the new
hit movie Leave the World Behind. Garrison made me watch this.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I'm never gonna forgive them for it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
One of it is. It is one of the most
recent examples of a movie sparking predictive programming conspiracies. It's
by the creator of mister Robot, which retroactively makes mister
Robot much worse. Now. There is a few reasons why
this movie has caused so much uproar, a major factor
being that it's produced by the Obamas, as in the
Presidents Very responsible. There is, there is, there's Havana syndrome
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references discussion of an evil cabal that runs the world
plans to collapse The United States and the two child
leads wear t shirts that read obey and NASA, respectively,
which has been the cause of a lot of discourse.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
NASA, Yeah, the left's long term plan.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Look, several of the letters in NASA are also in Stalin.
Are you gonna tell me that's a coincidence?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah? Probably, I will, I will now, I will now
share this, share this clip from Steve Bannon, who had
a Dutch far right e girl on his show to
discuss the movie.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
He's doing good, then, So he's doing good. That's good.
I was worried about Steve.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Okay, So we see a movie here now that is
co produced by the Obamas about the potential potential cyber
attack which causes mayhem obviously, and I saw it and
it reminded me an awful lot of the narrative portrayed
in a video published about two years ago by the
World Economic Forum. And this was a video in which
(14:26):
they supposedly warned us for a cyber pandemic. Interesting choice
of words there, And they detail what could happen if
we are under a cyber attack, and that the only
way that we could solve an attack like that would
be to disconnect everything and everyone completely from the Internet.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
So I figured this.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Seems to me like a classic case of predictive programming
where not just the World Economic Forum, but now also
through movies and you know, fictional stories, they are trying
to prepare public to the idea of cyber attacks and
the potential chaos that could come with that.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So that is that is her her big problems with
the movie, which we'll see we'll see echoed in a
lot of the people we talk about here with the
World Economic Forums warning about a big cyber attack. She
then went on to rant about the movies anti white sentiments,
probably from the Obama's involvement.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Clearly, yeah she has.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
She has almost a million followers followers on Twitter. It
is wild also because she's Dutch. Her last name is
and I shit you not Vlardinger broke so great, great
stuff happening in the Dutch.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, what is that predicting?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
For a summary of the movie, all at this conspiracy theory,
TikTok explain the basic themes that we'll be discussing here.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Essentially, the movie is about the downfall of civilization and
how it's done in three steps, her step being that
the government is going to be tappled from within the
next one that it's going to be literally with disinformation
and misinformation to confuse the masses and to create chaos.
The third step, if the first and second step are
done correctly, is going to cause basically a civil war,
causing the paranoid and problematic to start turning on each other.
The little girl is obsessed with the last episode of Friends,
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called How It Ends, which is interesting because the star
of the movie, Julia Roberts, also dated Matthew Perry way
way back, Matthew Perry, who also passed away earlier this year.
The movie also references like billionaires and their bunkers, and
it references the Cabal on way more than one occasion.
The heart of it is that the cabal has fallen
and so nobody is in charge, and this is what's
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leading to the fall of the United States of America. Essentially,
it has a very predictive programming feel to it, and
I mean with the Obamas and the constant references to water.
Planes crash in the water and a boat called the
White Lion runs up on shore from the ocean. Everybody
wants water, They're constantly drinking water. Here's some water you
want some water. Then the Obama chef just drowned. I
(16:57):
can't watch anything anymore. I can't enjoy any summon up.
The entire movie itself doesn't even have a plot. There's
no real storyline to this movie, and the ending is awful.
If I if I were not paying attention like I am,
I would think the movie would be terrible. There's no resolution,
there's no real start. It just seems like it's just here,
just here, it's just telling you and one more thing.
It talks about microwave e MP.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like, Okay, that's that's. That's that.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Their brains are so melted that like they can't see
a movie made in the image of all of their
fears is made in the image of all their fears.
Like the whole it's so sunsettling. It doesn't even start properly.
It's just it just begins. You're just in it, like Noah, man,
that's it's kind of how a movie goes.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I like how she talks about she like she like
can't enjoy movies anymore, which is like the end result
of all these all these conspiracy theorists, like they just
they just can't enjoy life because they see everything as
this series of like interconnected incidents leading to some kind
of grand narrative that makes it impossible to like actually
like be happy, which is probably the funniest thing. Also
that she thinks the movie predicted the death of the
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Obama's chef, which I don't don't know if that's real.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Yeah, if you're one of these people, that's the most
significant thing that's happened the last eighteen months. The Obama
chef and Matthew Perry are like the Rosetta Stone for
everything that's wrong in society, and not just two people
who died because it's a year.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Because Matthew Perry used to date Jessica Roberts, who's the
star of the Verbe, of course, and there's friends references
all throughout the film, so it's all connected.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Subtle friends' references, very subtleind you miss him if you
don't pay attention.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So the last conspiracy theorist want to talk about is
this like metaphysical influencer named Tristan Haggard who spends most
of his time on stream selling hormone supplements for men
so that they could boost their testosterone and stop being
soy boys. While discussing various conspiracies, love it, he says,
(19:02):
quote cyber attacks, bio warfare, weaponized limes disease, lone star tick,
chronic wasting, disease, things that get you to stop eating meat.
These things, these types of these types of programs are
seated throughout the film. I feel like the tick bite
and a lot of that stuff might have been a
little bit of that DARPA extracurricular script editions. Yeah, yeah, unquote.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yeah, sure, yeah, of course. The fact that a kid
gets a bit by a tick and gets all fucked
up is like trying to stop you from eating a try.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
To stop you from eating meat. Quote. I feel like
the average norm you might not put together the limes disease,
possible bioepon connection unquote amazing. Yeah, I don't think the
average normy might might not put that one together.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You know, that does suggest to me that all these
people are gonna die in thirty seconds if there's any
real kind of unrest because their attitude towards the idea
of disease that was planted by.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
The New World Order.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, people won't get sick now. These two guys on
this stream also said that they they had to stop
watching mister Robot in the third season because there were
too many quote unquote gay scenes, which is really funny.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I had to stop watching it in this first season
because I don't like Remy Malick. But you know, see
I I are built different.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I had. I had to keep watching just for Christians later,
but that's just me.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
He did make it hard to quit.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah. Yeah, So most of the time these two guys
on their conspiracy podcast just complain about how Ethan Hawk
is a weak little soy boy, and all of the
and and and and all and all of the quote
(20:50):
unquote by POC people were more like put together and
more commanding. They constantly say bye Palk, which is an
interesting choice from that that is really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Actually, since Marshall Ali's daughter isn't really a character in
that movie. Marsha law Ali is okay because he's a great,
great actor, but like, it's not like it's not like
all of the characters who aren't white or like written
stirringly well, most of the characters of this movie are
written like dog shit eates things.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, but Tristan here says, quote there's so much predictive
programming and social engineering of how the mechanics of possible
collapse of the power grid, collapse and the communications would
result in basically chaos. And then I have I have
this little clip here of him talking about the big
cyber attack.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Right now, a lot of people are saying, well, this
is predictive programming. They're going to do this cyber attack.
And you know, we've been talking about this type of
stuff for years, right with the cyber Polygon exercises and
the World Economic Forum, and you're working with U defense
contractors in military intelligence was not working on the possible
scenario of a cyber attack, right The cyber attack is
(22:01):
one of these scenarios that they're saying it's gotta happen.
It's coming, the big cyber attacks coming. But I feel
like films like this the intention could be to make
people so afraid of just the mere possibility of a
total collapse like.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
This, so they obviously sound like they know what they're
talking about there. That's very very very polished. Now Tristan
thinks that he has a better idea to kind of
seed collapse quote. A better way to implement this would
be to not really roll out a huge wide scale
power outages and communications outages but make it up protracted,
(22:37):
small and localized so that you can still maintain a
certain level of propaganda and control and then create enough
fear to where people will accept the mandatory digital ID
for the Internet and the Central Bank digital currencies and whatnot.
It's like a limited type of thing, a regional type
of thing that then is hyped up to be the
worst thing ever unquote. These guys are really like talking
(22:59):
about this mandatory digital ID and the central bank digital
currencies as being this big threat and there's gonna just
be and any day this this this cyber attack which
is gonn, which is gonna force us to all adopt
this this uh, this digital ID to be able to
sign into the internet.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
All you have to do is have most of the
normal people afraid enough of the possible scenario and tease it.
It's almost like a cyber attack brinksmanship type of thing unquote,
so they think that, you know, you don't actually need
to have the cyber attack, You just need to have
people afraid enough that it could happen by by talking
about it in media, film, TV, you know, all all
(23:37):
this sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
You can't even get people to like change their passwords like.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
And it's so funny because like the past few months,
there actually has been a decent number of.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Cyber attacks constantly, yes, which are.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, like a very like a constant influx, which are
all just being constantly handled. And it's it's not led
to any of these massive apocalyptic scenarios that that that
they're talking about, know.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I mean, like the movie has part of how the
movie has to make this, like has to make it,
Like why the movie is set in the middle of
nowhere is that if it's set in a city and
the internet goes out, the way people would actually respond
would be like the way they respond when there's just
some sort of random outage initially like like oh shit,
my phone doesn't work right now, I guess I've got
to figure something else out for a second. Like it's
(24:23):
it's easier to have it seem disconnected and like completely
disorienting when you have everybody like out in the middle
of nowhere without other people around to make shit makes sense.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'm going to play Well one more clip from from
Tristan's livestream here.
Speaker 10 (24:40):
I feel like, well, also, I mean they haven't they've
been building all of this technocracy stuff to throw it away. Thanks, Right,
they've been building it to implement it, so if there
was an outage or the cyber attack or whatever, this
would be some temporary, limited thing, you know, hyped up
into oblivion and oh it was all the Trump maga people,
(25:00):
or it was all the Christians that did it to
go working with Russia. Right, that's what they're gonna say.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, yeah, totally. They're gonna blame the big cyber attack
on the Trump Christians. That's Timby, who's gonna who's gonna
launch the big attack?
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Totally absolutely to everyone will assume knew how to do
hack is the Trumpers. Yeah, we taught him how to
change the settings on their smart TV.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And now they've hacked the planet.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What do you do? As as soon as you turn
off motion smoothing, then you're ready to go. They're gonna
hack the system, get in, shut everything down. Oh so
this Tristan guy was getting like hundreds of dollars in
super chats on this stream. He's he's verified on YouTube.
He has over one hundred thousand subscribers, and he is
one of the has some of the like not not
(25:52):
very hidden anti Semitism, but like I am kind of
surprised that he's able to say as much as he
is while still being verified and getting all this money,
because he has this line towards the end of his
of his stream quote, the little girl is inside the
house with the bunker that everyone else was trying to
go to, and she's sitting at the table surrounded by
like goy slop. She's just got all the freaking kibble
(26:14):
foods like Funians and Doritos. She's having a feast of gluttony.
It's all freaking globo homo kibble, fruity pebbles and stuff.
She's just gluttonously consuming a bunch of you know, trash
processed foods. She's just all alone, just looking kind of autistic.
Unquote what the fuck? So, Yeah, he's just talking about
(26:35):
like goy slop. Like there's like the like like the
Jews are creating junk food to pacify.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I want you to eat worms and stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, exactly. So that that is most of most of
his interesting opinions. I'll leave the world behind a pretty
a pretty bad movie.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
A pretty bad movie.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
You know, there's one real conspiracy theory about it, and
it has nothing to do with the Obamas or predict programming,
we see a character at the beginning of the movie,
a survivalist prepping to take care of his family even
though no one knows a disastro is coming. And later
near the end of the movie, when Ethan Hawk's son
is sick, we meet the survivalist again. It turns out
(27:16):
he's a handyman who lives in the edge of town,
and he's played by Kevin Bacon now Garrison. In the
classic film Trimmers, Kevin Bacon plays a handyman character who
with his friend Earl Bassett played by Fred Ward, has
to fight off an attack by subterranean ancient giant worm
beasts in order to save himself in his small community
(27:39):
and Dune in just like Dune Garrison and in the
Lore of the Trimmers movies Val McKee. Kevin Bacon's character
is not seen in further movies because he gets rich
and he marries Ronda le Beck and they move off somewhere.
Maybe they move to the northeast to an island off
the coast of the East Coast, where he bought a
(28:00):
house and became a survivalist prepper, informed by his experiences
with his good friend Bert Gummer. The local survivalist who
shot a giant worm to death and maybe leave the
world behind, as a stealth sequel to the first Trimmers movie,
showing what Kevin Bacon's character does later in life.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I would be so much more of a fan of
Sam s Mill if he if he tried to, if
he tried to put the Tremor's movies into the canon
of mister Robot like.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
It would have been, It would have been perfect. I
would have completely changed my opinion on this movie. He
shout up to Kevin Bacon's house and he'd come out
with a gun, and they'd been like, look, we just
need some antibiotics. And He's like antibiotics, what about the
fucking worms? How are you people walking around? And then
the movie ends. At the end of the movie, it
was all a Trimmer's sequel.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You you you Korean Iranian terrorists went into the wrong reckcrooit.
So I lastly just want to talk a little bit
about some of like, you know, the obvious problems with
this diictive programming idea. Right, it completely annoys the fact
that humans use art as a form of cultural creation,
like we imagine futures in our art, specifically because they
(29:10):
could come into being. Like a lot of a lot
of like sci fi that influences technology comes from this.
That's also kind of the basis of Mark Fisher and
Nick Lan's like a cultural hyperstition where you specifically make
art to have this larger cultural effect that then it
can bring things into being as opposed to the more
like individualistic use of like occultism. And then a big,
(29:31):
a big part of all of this, this predictive programming
thing is also just like apaphenia, right It's it's people
creating connections and patterns and random data because it's it's
actually easy to look back and pick out past media
that has seemingly predicted events, but it's much harder to
identify current media that is actually predicting future events.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
This is this is a part of hindsight bias. The
tendency that we have to look at past events is
more predictable than what they actually were. It is it's
a common psychological response to a traumatic event like like
a big pandemic or a school shooting. There's also you know,
all of these all of these predictive programming theories fall
into these kind of contradictory depictions, which is why the
(30:11):
which is why the Hunger Games guy like uh calls
it like reverse symbolism. Right, it's it's if this if
if predictive programming is orchestrated by a shadowy cabal seeking
to implement a totalitarian takeover by normalizing an incredibly oppressive government. Uh,
in media and film TV, why is the said media
almost exclusively about like rebel heroes overthrowing and evil to
(30:31):
talitarian government. Right, it doesn't, it doesn't actually match. And
there's been a lot of like cultural studies showing that
whether you portray something in media as positive or negative
will strongly affect the audience's takeaway of the stimulus. So
if you show something positively, they're more like they're more
likely to view it as a positive thing. If you
show something negatively, they're more likely to view it as
(30:53):
a negative thing. Right, this this, this sounds very obvious,
but you do have to do like social science to
actually like show this is a real pattern. And then finally,
I will I will end this by quoting from that
that article from the Ohio State University quote. There are
a few purposes for predictive programming, and not all of
them have to deal with tyranny. Some of them are
meant to lessen the blow of an event like nine
(31:14):
to eleven or as previously mentioned, at the Sandy Hook shootings.
The contradiction arises when thinking about why the government would
want to warn us or prepare us for Sandy Hook.
The whole point of Sandy Hook conspiracies is to doubt
the event even happened, so the government would create a
conversation around gun control. This would defeat the purpose of
staging it if the government was trying to ensure a
(31:36):
smaller or inexistent response unquote. Especially like looking back at
what we talked about with like the Simpsons, it's just
a fun game people play, right Like it sounds like
a fun a fun world to live in. If you
can imagine this interconnected web connecting every single thing that
happens to your own experiences, it's it's it's it's a
way to turn turn the world into like this, this
(31:58):
great mystery that you can instead of just like experiences
that you have to live through.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
These people need real hobbies.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Like Finally, the thing I wanted to mention is that
the the upcoming discussion of predictive programming is all centered
around this movie coming out next month called Civil War,
which many many of these people in their discussion of
Leave the World Behind are are are very much talking
about how Civil War just seems like a sequel to
(32:28):
Leave the World Behind, because Leave the World Behind seems
like it's set up like a possible American civil war,
and how this upcoming movie is itself going to be
a massive predictive programming operation to prepare American citizens for
civil conflict with each other. So have fun seeing a
whole bunch of conspiracy theories develop around this movie that
comes out next month.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, that'll be that'll be good.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean, I wish people would start some conspiracy theories around.
Alex Garland's TV showed Devs, which is dog shit also
and and one of the one of the worst uses
of that guy from Parks and rec that I've seen
in a long time, heartbreaking. They use math to see
the past, Garrison.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That kind of reminds me of this movie I watched
for research called Knowing with with Nick Cage, who finds
a piece of paper that has something that's able to
predict like catastrophic events. Alex Jones saw this movie predicted
an oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico. But
besides that, you don't see it. You don't really see
it much in these in these circles, despite its very
(33:32):
like obvious, like predictive focus.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Mostly Dev's features a bunch of very good actors standing
around and staring at a screen where a grainy picture
of Jesus from the past is lit up in like
movie theater size screens like it's it's it's very it's
very mid. That's what I'm saying about DEVS. It's pretty mid.
Folks don't watch DEVS.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, I mean, same same thing with this Obama movie.
So yeah, watch out for the Obama's new movies, which
are all to seed the collapse of humanity, as well
as the A twenty four, the A War movie, which
is probably devious in some way, so have fun with that.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I'll say this, Barack Obama, it's not his fault, obviously
that a bunch of racists lost their mind when he
became president. But knowing that it was kind of responsible
for him to make his debut movie production a movie
about a cabal taking over the government using secret weapons.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Absolutely you knew what was going to happen. Barack you're
not a dumb man.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Tell me that's not what was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Absolutely all right, Well, I think that does it for
us today. Have fun predicting the end of this episode.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
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