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May 18, 2018 51 mins

This week Chuck sat down with musician Albert Hammond Jr. of The Strokes. Chuck's a big fan of his solo records, and it was a big thrill to sit down and talk music, movies and life with him. Listen in on what they thought about Albert's movie crush, 2016's Arrival. 

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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Movie Crush. Charles W. Chuck Bryant.
Here in the studio Pont City Market, Atlanta, Georgia's where
I'm recording this intro and outro. But for this interview,
I went on location with a little remote rig because
I was interviewing another musician. And I tell you, the
way to interview musicians is to say, hey, I will

(00:46):
come to your green room at your venue and make
it real easy on you. Because these dudes roll into town,
they have sound check, they need to get a little dinner,
they don't have a ton of time to lollygag. Come
over to the studio and meet me here. So I'm
trying to trying to get some more musicians in the
cannon and other artists of various types to get a

(01:06):
nice range of experience and opinion. Albert Hammond Jr. You
probably know as being one of the guitar players from
The Strokes. I like the Strokes fine, I love that
first album. But I am a big fan of Albert
Hammond Jr. Solo work from the very beginning. I always
thought his solo records were greater than The Strokes. I

(01:31):
love what he does, I love his musical sensibilities. Um.
His new album right now is out called Frances Trouble.
It is fantastic. After the interview, I was able to
go see him, already had tickets, went and saw him
performed that night at Termino West here in Atlanta, and
it was one of those It was one of those
Friday night shows that just happens every now and then

(01:51):
where everything comes together. Uh. And you could even see
on the band's face they were all looking at each
other like, holy shit, it what's going on in Atlanta
at night? Because it was a legit off the hook
show and I don't say things like that much. Great show,
great new album. And we had a really interesting talk

(02:13):
about life, about art, about movies, about music, um, and
kind of everything. He's a very he's very kind of sensitive,
contemplative guy, and I didn't know quite what to expect,
and I was very very happy to meet him and
sit down with him. The sound quality is gonna be

(02:34):
a little different than you're used to because we were
in a weird room at the venue. But um, he's
a good guy, a nice guy. There's a lot going
on in the head of his and we talked a
bit about the Arrival, which was probably not his favorite
movie of all time, but his pick of what he
wanted to talk about of a recent movie that he
really liked. And so we got into The Arrival as well.

(02:54):
So here we go with the Great Albert Hammon Jr.
On The Arrival. All right, So, um, I was looking
at I mean, I know your background with your dad
obviously as a hit songwriter growing up in l A.
And I always had this romantic notion of like you

(03:16):
as a little kid at the house or any like
l a kid with actors and songwriters and everyone just
kind of wandering in and out. Uh. I mean, no,
it's not like that. Um. I when I was too

(03:36):
too young, before I got into music, I had gone
to the studio may when you was doing demos he
had he had done. No, I wasn't there before he
did a demo Joe Cocker once, but I wasn't actually there.
I think I met Royal Orbison he was doing like
a Disneyland thing, but I don't really remember. And it

(03:56):
was like I fell in love with Royal at like
twelve or thirteen. So a bit of a bummer. Um
But my dad always had good stories. But no, not
there was writers, and there was like, you know, just
adult fun talk and I was a kid, you know,

(04:17):
everyone was swearing or the different different characters would come in,
like writers, different writers. Remember Jerry Goffin. I don't remember
if I ever met John Bettis. Some guy sme up
the pipe. One guy had a Ferrari. It was funny
and he was like crazy. I think I found out
more about those stories though when I was older. He

(04:38):
told me about stuff like my dad would be like, oh,
then you know this writer, this person would want to
come visit me in the studios and they could get
away from writing, get away from family. Was just still writing.
But it's just like, you know, because I think I
didn't understand it now but then, but now I knew

(04:59):
because when you eating, you can create at home, and
so that leaves a lot of time to be bothered
by people, right while you're trying to work. Yeah. No,
I hung out with my mom more and she was
always like, my dad's working, don't bother him. Yeah. Yeah,
the whole thing. It was like a whole what part
of l A was this? I grew up in Tarzana,

(05:20):
was born in Van nuys In Group in Tarsana, right
and you're just saying that your new your new band dudes,
or yeah they're all yeah, they're all from the valley.
They all had eight one eight cell phone numbers. And
that's I didn't scare you off, know that was that
was what drew me to it. I don't know. Just

(05:41):
funny how the universe shows you stuff sometimes, you know.
And yeah, I was just excited at what it what
it might mean or what it might bring. Yeah, that's cool.
I think by the way, that song is ready for
the stage that we heard in sound chat. Oh thanks,
you're like, maybe he played another few cities before we

(06:02):
debut it. I was like, that sounded good to me.
That's so funny. Yeah, it's just I guess it's like
you just wanna be able to perform it and sometimes
you just have to get it a little. You're not
thinking about it. Yeah, I think I'd be really thinking
about but it's still fun when you you know, you're
not even even I thought we'd play it the next

(06:26):
in Birmingham, just like run it two or three times,
like we didn't play it that night. It's just it's
fun to not know what's going to happen. Yeah, he
could fall apart. But that's you know, it's not like
brain surgery and someone might die. It's just you messed up.
That's okay. What's it like for you with um? And
we'll move on to movies and stuff in a sex
but not sure. I'm just thinking you thought. It's almost

(06:49):
like you you thought my life was like Annie Hall
when he goes to that except kid running around. No,
I was actually very separated from anything like that. It
was like you know, Um, I don't know. I was
just I remembered more riding my bike. I wanted to

(07:11):
see my friends than anything my dad. Dude, you know
that means you probably had a good mom. Yes, And
I don't wonder from him. It took me everywhere. So um,
as far as you're playing with like your stuff with
the Strokes and then now doing stuff on your own,
what you've been doing for a while now, um, it's
must be pretty cool to go out like by yourself

(07:34):
and be the dude after being in a band for
so long. I mean, yeah, I'm I feel pretty lucky
because I still feel like the dude in in the
Strokes because we had success. It's almost like a pop band,
that element which we always wanted with like everyone knew
everyone's name. It doesn't feel well, that's true. It doesn't

(07:57):
feel like when we go it really feels like a
like a gang. Don't feel like I, you know, someone
gets less because Julian sings. I don't. I don't feel
like that. I mean we we even roomed up until
the point where we didn't even have to anymore really
because it was because we were already roommates at home.
It's just more fun. Um. But what's fun is is

(08:23):
to see the arc now on this record because when
I when I started, I kind of didn't know exactly
that or the idea of like how am I going
to entertain? My first record was more like a living
room record. I feel like it's something you would you
could get stoned to and listen to by yourself with
me more ear candy, and I didn't really understand how

(08:44):
people saw me press wise, kind of like typecast it
as like, you know what a guitar player does in
the history of of of rock music, what they kind
of do um. And so finally on this record and
kind of see how how I want to entertain people

(09:04):
and what I want to do and what front man
I want to be and what songs I need, And
so I can kind of see it growing now where
I wanna you know, I want to play I like it.
I want to play big venues. Um So yeah, that
part of it, imagining that grows is fun. I don't

(09:28):
know what I mean to say is I never felt
like the only part that felt choked or where I
had so much extra was in the writing. You know,
whatever little bits I would give to help out where
I could, or or whatever it was. It's fine, it's
a good release. But I just have all this other
stuff too. So just he would um, he would be insane.

(09:51):
You just I think it would drive me insane if
I just left it there, right. You know, I like singing.
I fell in love with guitar like Louis John Lennon,
like songwriters play guitar and sang. So yeah, yeah, you're
a good remember to do that. When the first stuff
came out, the first solo stuff, uh, I remember getting

(10:14):
in thinking, holy sh it, I didn't know that he
could do all that. I feel like I became well,
that's once again the Rocks story of um. And I
didn't That's it's funny. I didn't notice it and I
couldn't say it out loud until just this record, but um,
definitely I became better. I figured myself out. It's like

(10:37):
I started at seven. It's like if I would have
started at seventeen, then seven makes sense that you kind
of you know, some people don't and they figure it
out right away and then I don't know where to
go or you know. So it's like everyone has different
ways they grew out, but I kind of went backwards.

(10:58):
I made my more adult record first. Yeah, kids just
gotten more and more energetic and I've gotten older. Yeah
that's cool. You know. You when I was confused about
music at like thirty one or what to do, the
bands I got into were bands you only get into
it like fifteen, like Misfits and Wire and Wipers. You know,

(11:20):
that was like my new Those were like my new salvation.
I was like, oh, they got me back into wanting
to play music. So it's just remever tell people that
they're kind of you usually find that in your angsty teenage. Well,

(11:45):
uh so, jumping over the movie side, what was what
was your experience with movies growing up as a kid.
Was it something you really into huge? I went to
film school. I am where and were you? Oh? I
actually I didn't want to go to college. My my
dad said, I kept on wanting me to have a backup.

(12:06):
My backup became film, which isn't really but much of
a backup. Same odd similar odds. But he just wanted
me to go to college. I think he didn't too
much school, so the fact that he could have made
him I really want me to do it. And so
I applied there thinking I wouldn't get in because I
didn't have the grades. Um, but I had a cool

(12:27):
essay on acid and cool photos, so I feel like
I had submitted to creative package. Yeah you do, and
and but I took a year off anyways to move
to New York. I wanted you go. You go up
in the valley and it's a private schools. Everyone has
his view on life, and one I was kind of
like going through it not thinking of stuff. And at
fourteen fifteen, I just kind of like snapped out of

(12:50):
whatever it was and I was just confused. At at
I just had many questions about life and I just
wanted to go and live its online. I felt lucky
that I could go on an adventure and still I
didn't think I was gonna get hurt, you know. I

(13:11):
felt like whatever I didn't get and when you were like,
my dad didn't have anything, so he had to go
out and he had to go do something. So that
was his part of his adventure. I was one like
that where we were well off, so I needed to
create an adventure to find that, you know what I mean.
I just didn't understand everyone in the private school. The

(13:33):
rules were so so boring, just like you know when
you go to college, good job and trying to make money,
and it just seemed like, you know, money was a
nice after effect cherry, but it didn't like I don't know,
I just didn't. I didn't one day. I just went
from just not connecting to everyone. And so that was

(13:54):
the whole thing. I wanted to go and leave my
parents and like discover myself without them telling you ship. Yeah,
but I went to film school. I went to New
York Film Academy first when I moved to New York,
and then got a job after that at a record store. Um,
but yeah, I love. I fell in love the music
and film roughly at the same time. And I just felt,

(14:14):
I still think I will do film in my life.
I just felt that it was something I could do
in my later years. And music wasn't you know, Um,
but I mean I love it. I've written scripts. Um,
I'm try acting now. Ah yeah, they movies have moved

(14:37):
me or TV shows are like music has in in
the way that when you see stuff that changes you forever,
like you no longer think the same way. You know? Yeah,
what were some of your early movie? Blue Velvet was
one that came early times where I was just like,

(14:59):
I don't know, there was a about the way you
sound and the way he held on shots that it
was like life made more sense in that context than
in reality. And so I just felt like, I know,
you see stuff like that, it moves you, inspires you
just in general for a living you don't need to create,

(15:20):
just excited to be alive at a time where you
can see something like that. Um, and then you start
to build up wanting to it makes up like that
be something like that, but have that be, have it
have more attention. You know, what would the world be
like if that was up there with really big movies,

(15:44):
you know, like a cult movie. Yeah, I have an
older brother, who you have siblings. I have two sisters,
but were so my dad was married before the such
a big gap. By the time I was like five,
they were in college. Yeah. I don't even remember being five,
so they weren't like my brother was is three years

(16:05):
older and he was just feeding me culture. So he
was in college when I was in high school, and
he would throw me things like Blue Velvet. And I
remember specifically when he said there's this movie. You need
to go get it at the video store. And it
was one of those things videos by the way to
y yeah, vhs of course, and then the video store.
No yeah, But being in high school and sing a

(16:26):
movie like Blue Velvet, and it was just like mind blowing. Yeah, no,
for sure, you go the next day. It's funny. You
would go to the video store too, and it might
not be ei there, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
someone rented it and you're like, oh, I have it
with train spotting availability. I went and they were just like, oh, yeah,
we don't have any to get and I was like,
we'll put my name down so when it comes in
you don't want to get it, you know. That was

(16:49):
like a big you know, and so it was like
a big event. Pulp fiction, Paul Fiction and Ace Ventura
those two at the same time. Huge huge, so so different,
but a lot of my vocabulary for years still now
is from both those movies. Um. Yeah, I remember going

(17:11):
to Blockbuster and checking the They had the cart where
they would put the movies that just got dropped off.
So if you're looking for your movie and I wasn't there,
the people in the know would always go to that
cart to see if it had just been returned. I
hadn't put it up yet. Yeah, exactly. It is so weird.
I mean people, I mean, I don't want to be
old man talking about kids these days, but the instant

(17:33):
accessibility of everything, it's, um, it's great in a way,
but it's also there was something about it's great if
you find a balance for because instant gratification is like
drugs and is uh is not good in the long term. Yeah,

(17:55):
you know what I mean. You're not supposed to get
what you want always like it the second you want it. Yeah,
And so in some ways it's it's great because you can,
you know, maybe stuff that's be harder, you can, things
can be seen. But in other ways it's I wonder
how we're gonna fight back or how we're gonna get

(18:16):
some sense of People yearn for that romantic connection. They
yearn for the for the weight. You know. It's like
your body will naturally give make you high from it.
You know. It's like after I stopped doing drugs, I
created rituals for myself just too have those moments, even

(18:38):
if it's just like making a cup of teath that
you really like and really just like a cup you
like and every like how you like it, so it's
and make it a special moment for just for you,
you know, because if not you, I don't get lost.
And just like this, all this instant stuff was just

(19:01):
just too much. Yeah, everybody doesn't know what to do.
It's hard to find anything truly underground anymore too, because
back then, if there was something not like a blue velvet,
but well word of mouth to mean word of mouth
or something, you didn't get it unless your friend dubbed
it for you and gave it to you. For sure.
I mean I definitely still I lived at the end
of that. We're like, you know, you can listen to

(19:25):
radio just to like tape something my song, Yeah, you know,
yeah for sure, Um, what other kind of movies? Uh,
we're big for you? Growing up. Kubrick came in there,
Woody Allen came in there. Um, there's so many well,
being in New York is like being on a film set.

(19:47):
So when you first got there, I'm sure, yeah, what
well New York was? Um, when I moved in with Julianne,
we had this projector for where it's like where he
was working, Like they were like getting a new one,
so they were like throwing it away. We kept it
projected on the white wall. It's awesome still VHS, but

(20:10):
on the white wall we had I saw Jackie Brown
this movie called The Adventures of Sebastian Cole, which was awesome.
I don't think I know that. I know with Adrian Granades,
it's so good. It's coming of age stories, so good,
so good. Um, and the way you know, people mix
music and movies, it's amazing. So many I don't know,

(20:32):
there's there's too many, too many movies. Um, what about scoring?
Have you thought about doing that kind of stuff? For sure? Sure,
but it's it's I guess it's harder than it might seem. Yeah,
imagine you know, but yeah I would score movie or

(20:54):
it's but the thing is that a lot of times
that's connections you have with people because it's trust you know,
they don't you know, but yeah, I would uh do
in a second, I thought that that I don't I've
never heard listen to the music, but that I even
pronounced his name subjections Stevens or whatever his song for

(21:16):
calling by your name. So good for that movie, just
like the movie was matched. So yeah, that one was
great too. Um yeah, I mean they both kind of
they really co exist together. I remember seen The Doors.
It's a little I mean I really liked the movie

(21:39):
The Doors. Yeah, I really like Oliver Stone. Just when
I was young. That Natural warn Killers was just yeah,
so good, so weird and good. Um yeah, Platoon was
a big one, huge too. Sure. I mean this you
you've forgetten They come, they come back. It's a nice

(22:01):
It's hard to remember all those, but those it was
huge and hard to think. Someone. I remember seeing that
Doors movie like the night it came out, because I
was really into the band at the time. This year
I got into the band from that movie and as
someone took me when I was way too young, I
didn't get it. I saw it when I was fifteen
or sixteen. It was and I remember it was so

(22:23):
stone and Riders in the Storm comes on and it's
the it's the desert, and it was just like, holy shit,
what is this song so powerful? Forgetting that? It was
so powerful that I felt like I had discovered like
a truth. That's when you like hit music or movies

(22:44):
where it hits you right. It feels like you've haven't
said anything or it's not you know something you can
speak out loud, but inside you feel like, you know,
like the universe is a purpose. I mean maybe that's
what the high is is for a second, you feel
because life is meaningless unless you create a meaning for it.

(23:04):
And so all of a sudden, for a second, if
you just feel like you have tremendous purpose. Yeah, you know. Uh,
well we can get into Arrival, which you just want
to pick a movie and it was most recent. Yeah, no,
that's great. Um I've seen it before and then I
watched it again today. Um, I just so many things

(23:26):
I liked about it. And the music is just music
and movie. I mean I cry every time at the
end of that. Yeah, I think you're a little dead
inside if you don't, you know, But it's so is
so beautiful when they're like you see what they're doing
in the way, it's the way it's shot. It's so
beautiful that I was it almost that director, I don't know,

(23:49):
I can't pronounce his name. I didn't Blade Runner, and
I was so excited for it, and I just didn't
love it. I thought it was go and watch Harrison
Ford and there's something when he's serious as something so
relaxed and cool about him, and this one felt like
he was trying to be relaxing cool. Yeah, just he

(24:13):
just wasn't I know what you mean, you know, like
like um, and I love Ryan Gosling, so it's not
like I I wanted him to fail or something, you know,
like the only like Harrison Ford. Um, but it was
just like, you know, I don't know. That was just me. Sorry,
but let's go back to it. Have you seen the

(24:33):
movie Enemy, by the way, it's another one of his movies. No,
you should check that out. It's um four or five
years ago. Jake Jillen Hall is in it and it's
a kind of a doppelganger thing where he sees someone
who looks like him. But it's really it's pretty amazing.
He's amazing, amazing director. Yeah, yeah, he's great. Uh So,

(24:56):
it's hard to make a movie. In a good movie,
it's so many factor is that you could have a
great script, great time filming in and then you funk
it out in editing or yeah, terrible everything, and then
it works great editing and just like make this amazing movie. Yeah. Yeah.
One of the things I liked about Arrival was the
uh it was the first sci fi movie I've seen
where the the actual UFO or the ships were uh

(25:20):
not like the way a human might think of them.
So they didn't look like some futuristic plane that they
didn't have thrusters or jets or it was just this.
They were beautifullied, they're covered, they were really it made
it more believable. I think. Yeah, all of that, you know,
it all takes place in that one, well, I guess
from except for the flashbacks, which just like with the

(25:42):
with Her Child, I mean, I don't want to I
feel like I'm gonna ruin it. No, no no, no, these
are all fully spoiled as we go. But just like
with her Child, and like how you is a getting goosebumps,
how you just their chemistry together, like the Ammy Adams
and what's his name? Jeremy Renner. It was like unbelievable,

(26:04):
like I want them to be together in real life,
and that's how amazing it was. And you could see
the where they might get angry at each other in
like part and just like the kid they had in
that whole circle. Once you realize it all like the
first time you see it, and I thought it would
be less the second time, but it wasn't. It was

(26:25):
actually powerful, just in a different way. Totally agree because
I saw it today for the second time and knowing
the whole it's one of those movies that once you
know that, I mean, I guess it's a twist. It
just kind of makes you look at it through different
lens the second time, but it's no less impactful. Yeah, no,
it's yeah, that's but that's that's very amazing. But it

(26:48):
was for there was that time. It was that one
and Interstellar that I just thought were um amazing sci
fi yeah, universe movies and thoughtful, and it wasn't like
sci fi of like fighting right, It was like always

(27:12):
like knowledge and curiosity, and especially at a time where
I feel like we've like lost maybe it's also a
long time ago, like our connection to nature like we're
just arounded, so we're so far from it that we
kind of forget that we're in a giant cycle of

(27:35):
these things. Our planet came together by crashing into other things.
You know, it's a I was I love that stuff. Yeah,
and and this was like, I mean, it's almost even
sells it short to call it a smart sci fi
movie because it's really about fate and love, and you

(27:57):
almost could. Yeah, you forgets are almost like there's like
it's a it's not a if you were to say
an alien movie, I think you'd watch it. I remember
someone said that to me and they're like, no, no, no no,
it's not. I wouldn't think of it as like an
alien movie. Totally not like you know, like I think,
I feel like you get the wrong impression. Yeah, I

(28:18):
mean it's a movie about a central question, which is
would you live your life knowing how it ends if
it ends tragically? Yeah? And she does. Yeah, but the
way she says it, she's so believable at the end.
I I I like stuff like that, though I don't

(28:39):
let I like try to find stuff that'll that'll bring
emotion when I feel it stirring me, I like I
try to let it out with it just because it's
it's so fun. Strangers could make this. You find a
connection to it because it's not like it's you know,

(29:03):
you don't it's not like you've gone through her her thing.
But you find your own connection with it no matter.
It doesn't even need to be exactly what they're thinking.
And then you get moved by However, however, you know
you have kids yet, no, just wait if that's in
the future for you. Well, well, all my friends who
have kids have told me, Like my friends saw Missus

(29:25):
Doubt Fire and they were like, that movie is so
sad because even at the end, he doesn't get to
have his kids. Yeah you know what I mean. And
it's like it's kind of dark. And I was like,
I saw it like it's like you know, the silly
comedy that I saw it again and I was like,
oh man, it's really sad. Um well, but something like

(29:46):
a rival And I have a daughter too, Like I
just I see this thing and I just immediately just
and and forty seven years old and like a TV
commercial can make me cry. Now, well, no, my friends
say the same, the same thing, like they're just like,
so this movie just rex me Yeah, it's almost like
you have a kid, you're just yeah, you know, or
like you start to resee things with them and then

(30:07):
you have a different perspective. I mean, that's there, you go.
That's that's fun about life though, is that you can
have a different perception of stuff. Yeah, read see similar
things again and maybe see it very differently, you know.
I like that. Yeah. The other thing I loved about

(30:28):
this movie was just the nuts and bolts of the
the language and the way they inked it out in
that circular, weird like visual language. It was just so
like they didn't dumb it down or anything. They didn't
dumb it down. They also didn't make you feel like
you needed to like try to learn the language. They
made it believable that that she did. They spent all

(30:50):
the time, which is the questions they would ask even
when they were saying it. I was like, oh, yeah,
I ask and it was like you can't ask that
because that's or the way people when they did the
misunderstanding and like what if it doesn't mean that? Yeah,
And well she broke it down to one scene where
she's like they don't even may not even understand what
a question is, Like we gotta start so far back

(31:10):
from what are you doing here? Uh? And I just
thought that approach really it was just all so realistic.
And but it's also a show. Is just like it's
great because it still gives a you know, the authority.
I like it because the authority was like in the military,
was just shown how they're regressive nature isn't cost Yeah, Well,

(31:34):
and he knew it was gonna go bad when you
saw that one guy watching like the info worce type
thing on the computer and its set it up being
like a funk man. Now that guy's going to do something.
You know. I was pissed when they put that, when
they put the bomb. Yeah, that was that was awful. Yeah, guys,
I mean it was a political statement for sure, like

(31:55):
diplomacy versus war. Uh. And then the that third act
where she where she goes to the Chinese general and
she she has now gained the power of kind of
leaving through space and time because she also like that's
what's so cool the movie. When you first watch it,
you don't really get it. She keeps on You think
it's just like her dreams. What's happening? She keeps on

(32:16):
flashing forward and back. Yeah, she doesn't think she's going
crazy and as and as the first time viewer, you
think it's all flashback of this daughter that she had,
where she's actually remembering the future. Yeah, it's hard to
wrap your head around at first. So it's like it's
not I don't feel like it ends. And I was like,
it's one of those where it doesn't end and you're
like confused. If any it's exciting to talk about like this. Yeah,

(32:40):
it did. Not like an Interstellar, had a lot more ambiguity,
and I like ambiguity a lot of times in the
movie that I feel like that was also you know,
black hole, different dimensions, it's a lot you could a
lot of unknown, a lot you could talk about. Not
not that this is known, but it was well, it
definitely had a little more a definitive, did you know,

(33:02):
you know, you weren't like wondering what was going on
at the end, which was nice. I mean, it was devastating,
but it was just so I don't know if you
like Terence Mallock movies, but kind of reminded me some
of the early really great Terence Mallock, like Days of
Heaven and stuff like that. I do there's parts I
like about it, and then there's parts that I guess

(33:27):
sometimes I just wish there was It's like I think
about like a guitar solo that's like slow and then
just add a little fire and then you can go
back and use on the ends of a little fire.
So it's like a little like too long the pacing
for me sometimes to like, you know, you can feel
a little over indulgent. Sorry Arrival or Mallick no mal okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

(33:52):
no Arrival, No, not at all. I enjoyed the pacing,
and I like, like when things are I don't need
speed pacing, you know. I mean, I know this it's
a TV show, but people don't like better call Saul
because I think it's slow and I think he's probably
you know, the forefront of new television show. So yeah,

(34:14):
you know, um, I agree about a lot of the
Malick lately. For sure. I love the early stuff, but
I've never I've never seen this sort of stuff. Yeah,
bad Lands and Days of Heaven or his first two movies.
Those are two liked musties. Bad Lands was about the
couple on the cross country killing spree, sort of a

(34:35):
basis for natural born Killers. But yeah, wait, but that
was with Martin Sheen and that's wow. But that's much
older though, Yeah, yeah, that was that was mid seventies. Yeah,
that was his first movie. I didn't even know that.
Not five years older that, which is crazy. Yeah, I know,
it's always crazy when you think about And that story
was based on the real story that the Bruce Springsteen

(34:59):
album Nebraska is based on. Really, Charles Starkweather and his girlfriend,
you know, went on the skilling spree. That a trilogy
of greatness to it. Absolutely. I did think that one
of the brilliant things about this is that he put

(35:20):
the twelve pods in twelve different places around the world.
I think in the original story it was all they're
all in the United States, but putting them all over
the world means that there was no and they even
make a point of it in the movie, like there
is no one person that can solve this, and China
is dealing with it in one way, Russia's dealing with
it in their way, We're dealing with it in our way.

(35:42):
And so that really gave like this unease for an audience.
You share, Yeah, exactly what information you share? Is it
going to bring the world together? Which it I guess
it really didn't. But it was really a story about her. No,
but I mean it well depends, I feel it does.
I mean it could. But yeah, I mean you kind

(36:07):
of wish you would. You were thinking after that movie,
you kind of wish you would they they would spend
less money on that and more on just educating people. Yeah,
you don't just see what happens. We spent so long,
like throwing rocks at everyone. Yeah, m hm. Did you

(36:29):
see this in the theater or at home? No? I
was late to it. I got I was so excited.
I got sent as a SAG member. I sent the
movie and I was up. Oh yeah, it was an
upstate and I was like, oh my god, because I
wanted to see it so bad and I was like
doing stuff and I didn't have time, and and I
got it, and I yeah, I saw it at home.

(36:51):
I back, are you in sad? But you've acted? I
have acted yet? What had you been? I was in
a movie called Younus Drake Dormus. I was like a
small role, and you enjoy that very much. I mean
it was like every emotion possible was firing. Like when

(37:11):
I came home from the first stair set. I just
curled up into a ball and put on friends and
I was like just trying to like get back. I
didn't realize all the I become more aware of how
my energy is spent and like, you know, well I
can't do that because then I'll feel it there and

(37:32):
like where I need to like how to bring it
back up and stuff like that. But yeah, that was
wonderfully exhausting, so many things, and I just kept on
thinking how I could do it better. It's always great
to start something you like and just not be good
but want to be great at it, and so like
you just there's that. And I read motorcycles on track.

(37:56):
Do you know motive It's like Formula one, but for motorcycles,
motive you if he does it, you know, leather suit,
your knee on the ground. I just like love of motorcycles.
And I was on the street and then as soon
as I went to the track and realized what you
could do and how you could learn that, I just
fell in love with that. I don't even right on
the street anymore. Um yeah, but just against myself. They're

(38:19):
just track days. I don't like I'm not like an
amateur racer. I mean though I if I ever felt
like I was getting there, I definitely would in another life,
I would have you just go out there and go
super fast. I just tried to break later at the turns,
find the exact perfect speed where it's not too much

(38:40):
or too little for that turn. Come out sooner. I
guess you know, just all that your line, your lines
change interesting. And it's also like fun because it's like
a group of people, you know, we just know each
other through through that bonding over that. So it's not music,
it's not. But it's also different people than I would

(39:01):
ever hang out so only because that's just how life is.
There's always a few people cross over. But it's so nice.
It's like none of my other friends. It's just done
something different, you know. Yeah, And it's like early and
it's all day and it's exhausting, and I kind of
I like, there's a cool a lot of cool people

(39:22):
where the tracks, um, I end up doing a lot
in California because the weather is longer, my bike's out there,
but this track's all on the East coast. Just that.
Still trying to convince my wife that I need to
buy a trailer and a truck. I officially want to
buy a pickup truck. And I have this trailer and
I'm super excited about it. That's cool. We both have

(39:43):
pickup trucks, so it's highly recommended. You know that. It
was this chabby Silverado is what I want. But I
just convinced her. It's hard to it's funny, I mean,
it's it. It keeps a good balance. But at least

(40:04):
and now I have my bike, right and I've done
it up. Yeah, now I just need the mode of
transport nice. All right, Well listen, we'll finish with five questions. Sorry,
I really got off. No that this is this is
all good, but they kind of all go go together.
Did you watch a movie like that moves you help
think and then I meditate on it, not life. You

(40:26):
think about it through many things. Conversations are on monorcycle
or well, this is also what makes Albert Hammond take
you know, is it just about a movie? Movies? Music
and bikes and underwater too. I really like about scuba diving.
It must be a nice escape. Then it's so it's

(40:48):
just like you're just going down to meditate basically, and
you're just in this other planet. Yeah, and it's just
like sometimes I've looked at fish and they've stared at me.
It's puffer fish was like big almost human like eyes.
The idea we've come from water and they're just looking
at me. Their connection. Yeah, I was just kind of like,
I was like, it's fascinating the whole world down there.

(41:12):
It's just like if you just look at the words,
oh it's ocean, and you eat the fish, but without language,
and you just experience, like from your gut, it's your
second brain, what's happening. It's um, it's it's you know,
it leaves you speechless. That's awesome. Movies, music, bikes, scuba.

(41:35):
Albert Hammond all right, so five questions. What's the first
movie you remember seeing in the theater? Ah? I remember
I was gonna say it's gonna be splashed, but let
me see you. Well, I know I saw that movie
like a crazy amount of times. My mom told me
I kept on making it take me back like in
thesane amount of times. Um, who's the first movie? All right?

(42:01):
I mean that counts. It's so hard, yeah, because I
know at eleven I saw Home Alone, but you know
with the Bodyguard, was that before that? I just remember
you just don't remember something seven years old. Fash counts.
It's a great first movie. Do you remember the first

(42:22):
Arraide movie you saw? I remember the first NC seventeen
because my mom helped me get in and it was kids, Okay,
great movie, and it was like, but my mom would
always my first. Actually, do remember my first our movie?
Bachelor Party? It was five years old and I saw
a bachelor five years old? All right, mabe, I was six.

(42:45):
It was like I was very young and saw that
I was Tom Hanks beakaing. It was like my hero.
It was his proudest moment. I imagine. It's really kind
of I mean, I really liked that movie. It's it's
really funny. It's probably where I get my my like
dirty sense of humor, where I find I don't not

(43:05):
offended by things easily. That's good. Will you walk out
of a bad movie? Um? Yeah, it's gonna be pretty
bad though, But yeah, do you remember one? Uh? I
should many movies. Many times I don't remember, like wanting

(43:29):
to walk out and I don't. Goddamn, I don't remember.
But you'll do it? Yeah, especially now? Yeah, older than God,
for sure. I think that's true. Just like or it's
just like too now, Like I even see a trailer
and be like, that doesn't even I don't. I don't

(43:49):
try to judge it. But there's certain things you just
know and then you know what I'm seeing on a plane,
You're like, knew it. It's gonna suck. Have movie tars.
If I could have walked out the plane, I would
have walked out of Tars. That might be. That's a
little of the worst movies ever made. It was. It
was pretty bad. No actor had any chemistry with themselves
or other actors. There was no I didn't care once

(44:14):
besides just leave the camera on the Australian lady because
she's hot, right. He was the worst stars. It was.
It was all. It was so bad. It was so bad.
I've really never it's goin a plane. I was so bored.
I was like fine all the time. I was like,
planes are the lowest hanging fruit. Movies wise too. So

(44:35):
if you couldn't some co mean, it's not's gonna be fun.
You watch Romanci comedy and then you just like ended
up like like you can put up with a lot
of bad movies. That's what I'm saying, And that's how
bad it was. It was like I was like, yeah,
that's how bored I was. Um, I used to ask
a different question here, but no, never has a good answer.
So let's see, well, guilty pleasure movie. Oh sure, I

(44:58):
mean I'm never I never feel guilty about that. But
I guess, I mean, I guess some I like some
terrible movies. This movie called F You. It's hilarious, so
with about these two guys who played football and they've
they've they like they go to cheerleading camp because there's

(45:20):
more girls there, and there's just it's just like really funny.
It's the guy who was in Dumb and Dumber, one
of the guys that which I actually thought when they
were young, actually actually thought was not that bad. Actually
the Dumb and Dumber movie, the sequel, no, the one
with the young kids, the pre Dumb and Dumber gotcha. Um,

(45:41):
but yeah, I F You has got to be like
that was kind of like that. I mean I saw
Eurotrip I don't know how many times accounts you know. Uh,
that's just you know, funny and funn and guilty pleasures,
you know, and that was there cozy. They're like mac
and cheese and you know them no'll pop on TV

(46:01):
and you'll just be like, oh cool, I'll just finish that.
Sometimes it's a good movie. Shots Redemption is the guy
that for sure, I can never it goes on. I'm like, ship,
I'm gonna have to finish this. Yeah, that's one of
those you know, like that pascing of that movie, it's
like perfect, Yeah, that's a's a great, great movie. It

(46:22):
just always like and it just ends on such a
you feel so good. Yeah, I mean two guys meeting
on the beach. I know, but it's like not but
it's weirdly not cheesy, you know a lot of times,
and the ending is happy like that. It can feel
like I think that's when it's like unearned, but Shawshank
is so earned on every level. Sure. And then finally

(46:46):
movie going one on one, what's your movie? Theater? Ritual
food food, where do you sit the whole whole deal? Well,
it depends on the screen Imax only the last bro
because it's just too big. Yeah, I now that you

(47:06):
can theaters are pretty good. Now you can pick uh
seats in advance. That's pretty cool because I like, yeah,
I like, I don't like being on the side. Um,
I've been on the front a few times, but it's
awful to like, yeah, somewhere in the middle, yeah, bigger

(47:29):
the st I don't imagine if it was the theater
was yours, where would you sit there? Just right in
the best seat. I want. I like newe theaters that
are loud. I would like to one day have a
little theater because I just I really like loud. Loud
movies needs to be loud. Yeah, yeah, And I have

(47:54):
a candy wise, I just I really want to do
the eminem's in the popcorn, but you don't. I haven't.
I've never done it like you've done seeing it, and
I was just like you, I kind of always want
to go see a movie just so I could do that. Well,
that's my advice. Do that? Do you just put one
in one bag? I feel like you would need to know.

(48:16):
I get like the medium popcorn and then that huge
ass peanut M and M. That's the one. The theater
is the only thing where the sizes make no sense.
The small is like, you know, well, no one share
with me, because it's almost like under and any size
above that is like ridiculous, you know what I mean?

(48:37):
Like you got like I went to in l a
at least you know. The popcorn was just you know
you're gonna leave feeling sick. But I usually always do
because they can't. I love the sour Skittles, the pieces
of you know. I'm just they can go in popcorn
to thee pieces. Yeah, but not the Skittles, No, I

(48:58):
wouldn't do. The skittles and Twizzlers are like on the
side of thing. Yeah. Things. I like the chocolate sometimes
I like the sour the sugar community. All right, man,
can you feel good? Feel pretty good again? Do you
feel good? Yeah? Go out and get that pick up chart.
I'll do it now, all right, just drive the rest
of the tour. All right, thanks Albert, No, thank you.

(49:19):
I appreciate it. All right, everybody. I sure enjoyed that.
I hope you did. Um dirty little secret. I had
my my buddy Eddie, the lead guitarist in my fake

(49:40):
old man band, in the room with us as my
quote unquote sound man because he wanted to tag along
and sit in a room and listen to Albert Ham
and Jr. Talk for an hour. Uh, and we both
got a big kick out of it. He's he's a
good dude, and uh, enjoyed his insight on the arrival
and his insight on life and music and art itself. Uh.
He was very interesting guy to talk to and I

(50:02):
hope to meet him again one day. So I hope
you enjoyed yourself. And uh, my one regret is not
talking to him because I'm starting to do this with
musicians now. Is add a question at the end first guitar,
favorite guitar, and I did not get to that on
on Mike, but uh, after we recorded, as we were
packing up, I asked him about that that white strato

(50:24):
caster that he plays and has played for so long,
and he confirmed. He was like, yeah, man, that's that's
the same one. That's my baby, and I bought it
for I don't know. I think he said like three
hundred bucks in New York City however, many years ago
when the Strokes were getting in together. So look for
that question in the future when I get a musician
in here. So big thanks to Albert Hammon Jr. Check

(50:46):
out France's Trouble wherever you get your music and go
see him on tour. You will not be disappointed. It's
a great live show. And until next time, why don't
you go out and spend three hundred bucks on a guitar.
Take a lesson, Get on Youte to look at a class.
Start making some music. Movie. Crush is produced, edited, engineered,

(51:16):
and scored by Noel Brown from our podcast studio at
Pond City Market, Atlanta, Georgia,

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