October 29, 2021 • 17 mins
Holly and Tracy talk about their experiences with haunted houses, then discuss watching "The Exorcist," and the dynamics in play in Roland Doe's story.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, A production
of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly
Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We talked about haunted
houses this week, Tracy, Yep, we did. I said that
(00:24):
we would mention in this episode kind of why this
is almost a or at least began really as a
uniquely US phenomenon. And it's something that actually came up
on our um Our episodes about the Haunted Mansion, because
we talked about how they expanded that idea into parks
around the world and how they're just other cultures where
(00:46):
the ghost thing is not cool as an entertainment, it's disrespectful,
and so that's part of the reason why, you know,
the US has this this kind of obsession with something
that maybe hasn't spread globally. I should mention that Universal
now does do Halloween horror nights in all of its
global um parks, So that is shifting, certainly. It's not
(01:08):
as though you know, other places haven't. It just seems
like the US took the idea and ran with it
at full tilt. Well, and when I was looking for
artwork to put on our social media for this episode. Like,
I did find pictures of mostly the exteriors of haunted
houses and other parts of the world, but I did
not look deeply enough to see if those were associated
(01:30):
with like US chains or like US business entities or
or not. I'm not going to out them, but I
will tell you. We have a colleague who recently confided
to me that they are afraid of the Haunted Mansion.
What which is so sweet? I gave your If you
(01:51):
just don't like scary things, even if they're kind of
cute and pretty benign, you just only scary things, it's fine, Yeah,
but it struck me as funny. Also, big out out
to my Patna Mansion if everybody hasn't watched it yet,
it's marvelous, um marvelous. Yeah. The last time I was
at Disney, I remember a small child at the very
(02:11):
beginning of the Haunted Mansion just absolutely losing it. And
in a way that was both upsetting and funny because
the child was obviously clearly scared, but it also seemed
like one of those moments that will be looked back
on you like, remember that time I got so scared?
(02:33):
Remember when you lost your mind in the hount image.
So when I was a kid, I grew up outside
of Winston Salem, North Carolina, and there was this place
that was called the Nature Science Center that has been
through a whole ton of changes since the name changes
and business changes and stuff since then. And it was
(02:54):
built on the grounds of an old hospital and they
had a haunted house that I remember being a fundraiser
for the Science Museum. I could be wrong about that, though,
and I feel like what they told us was that
the haunted House was in what had been the psychiatric
ward of well, of course, which I mean that's got
(03:21):
very problematic and offensive connotations right simultaneously. It was terrifying,
and I remember being so scared and in there every
single year, and yet every single year I was like,
when do we get to go to the Haunted House.
(03:42):
I tried briefly to confirm whether they were being truthful
with that, because it definitely was a hospital. The Science
Museum was not in what had been the hospital, but
the the hospital structure was still on the property, and
that was where they were having the haunted house. And
I remember of like the various haunted like there would
be uh the elementary school would have the haunted house
(04:03):
as a fundraiser for the p c A and like
that kind of stuff. And I remember, among all of
among all of the things, all of the haunted house
experiences of my childhood, the one at what was at
the time called the Nature Science Center was the scariest one. Yeah. Yeah,
I feel like we didn't do a whole bunch growing up.
(04:24):
I didn't really get into haunted houses until I was
like probably college age. My beloved used to help build
the j c's Haunted House every year. He has so
many like memories that he loves to recount about working
on those. And of course that was post all of
the code updates, so I haven't ever really asked him,
(04:45):
like with somebody there. Main sure everything was up to code,
but usually I think at that point most of those
that continued, we're trying to borrow spaces that we're already
up to code themselves, right Like can we do this
in the school's cafeteria for two nights, or can we
you this in you know, this um office park or whatever,
like they have one area that's not being used. I've
(05:06):
seen them there as well. Of Course, I feel I
didn't mention because we really didn't get into the modern ones,
there are a lot of it gets very busy, Like
I didn't mention that Atlanta, of course, is home to
one of the biggest and most famed and successful haunted
houses in the world, which is another world Haunted House Um,
which I had the delight a few years back of
(05:27):
touring it just by myself with our colleague Julie Um
when she was working on another podcast and we were
I was helping her capture some audio for it, and
that was one of the most fun experiences ever because
they kind of let us say, like, yes, let's do
lights out for here, and let's do the full thing,
or hey, can you turn the lights on because we
want to see how this works. So that was like
(05:48):
the most marvelous, beautiful, interactive haunted house experience you could
ever have. I don't think I ever actually went to
that haunted house. I just saw their participation in the
Dragon con parade. It's so good and I mean the
people there, and that's the thing. Most of the haunt community,
like I have friends that love it, love it. I
have friends that got engaged at like a universal Horror
(06:10):
Nights haunted attraction. They are so passionate about it as
an art in and of itself, and like, you know,
creating these places that are safe but still scary and fun.
And there are certainly outliers and some controversy within that
entire community about sure who does qualify as a haunt
versus something a little more sinister, And but you know,
(06:30):
once like another world. I just I'm blown away by
the level and degree of just work that goes into it. Yeah,
it's beautiful. I'm fun, I mean everything, oh time. One
thing I did want to know is, whenever we talk
(06:51):
about a fire, it seems like we get lots of
listener requests for other fires. And for whatever reason, of
all the tragedies we talked about on the show, the
fires tend to be uniquely terrible to research and write about.
So we don't do many of them. Because there are
(07:12):
a lot. They are particularly a lot in a way
that I don't know I can quite explain why. Yeah,
I mean it, it is it's hard. There were certainly
there are lots of details about that Haunting Castle fairy
that I did not feel needed to be in this
that are very upsetting. Um and I the other thing
is that that is recent enough that those families, you know,
are still around, and that people that grew up in
(07:34):
that area still talk about how harrowing it was and
the impact it had. So I did not want to
focus on any of the grizzlier aspects of it, because
that's just not important to the story. Um. But yes,
I UM. I hope that everybody that goes out and
enjoys a haunted house this year has a fun and
(07:55):
safe time, and that you walk out more giddy and
giggly than you do trouble from the whole thing, or
if you're me, you just keep trying to get the
haunted mansion to stop when you're in the ballroom so
you can look at everything for minutes, which happened the
last time I was there, and I was the happiest
(08:16):
squealing child on the planet. So happy haunts to everybody,
and we hope that your Halloween season is going delightfully. Tracy.
We talked about Rolando and possession and exorcism this week, yes,
(08:39):
and I mentioned that this is one that's been rattling
around in my brain for a while, and there are
a few reasons. One, I cannot tell you how much
this case was discussed in my house growing up, and
part of it is that, Uh, there's an interesting thing
that happens here in in reading about his case more
in depth and in some people's speculations, is there's a
(09:00):
lot of speculation about it. Um is that his mother
very much believed what was going on was some sort
of possession, and then his father was kind of like,
I don't know, I just want to help my kid.
And there is even speculation that his dad was a
little bit absent and that this may have been an
incident of him kind of acting out because he didn't
have the attention of his parents in the way that
(09:22):
he wanted. But it makes me laugh because can I
just tell you, I suspect that if I had behaved
in any of these ways, my mom would have been like,
you're possessed and my dad would have been like, what
is your problem? Because my dad was very much not
a believer in such things, and my mom loved it
(09:42):
all and was really into all of that kind of
lower and and paranormal stuff. So it made me laugh
so hard as I went, and any time the parents
were brought up, I was like, yeah, I know, I
know this dynamic. Yeah I uh so, I've never read
the book The Exorcist, and I did not see the
film until I was solidly into adulthood because I was
(10:08):
raised in a household that was strict about what we
were allowed to watch on TV and movies, And like
I didn't even have like a friend that sneaked it
into the slumber party or anything like that. Like there
were a couple of times where we did have slumber
parties and we watched something scary, but like, never The Exorcist.
So I was probably close to thirty by the time
(10:29):
I saw it for the first time. And even then
there were elements of it that were like firmly in
my psyche just because of how present they were in discussion,
Like the whole idea of the projectile pea soup. Already
knew a lot about that from many years of having
(10:49):
heard about it before I ever saw that on the
screen and the television. Yeah, became a punchline in a
lot of ways, right, Yeah, if someone was really angry,
people would go, are you to start throwing up soup
on me? Like, I rewatched it again a couple of
times while I was working on this kind of to
(11:10):
to really note the differences between it and the story
as is recorded. It was more sexual than I remembered.
It's probably been it has long since I watched it.
It's probably only been like four years. But my brain
wiped some of that and I was like, whoa, I
don't remember it being as much. And that is how
I found out, in mentioning that to my husband that
he's never seen it. I don't know how that happened
(11:33):
because I watch it with frequency, but I think I
must be watching it in the sewing room without him,
I will say again, and I tweeted about it. The
sound design on that movie is spectacular. It's spectacular, um.
And I don't just mean like, oh it really sounds
gross like in terms of how it transitions from scene
to scene. It's just handled beautifully. They deserved that Oscar,
(11:53):
no question about it. I also wanted to mention two
other things that came up. And this is a thing
that gets bandied about, and I will say, if you
go looking for information on this story online, you will
find a lot of um. I don't know if banter
is the right word, but there is a lot of
Well I did research and it contradicts this other writer
(12:15):
that everybody thinks is the expert, and like, no, I
did my research. There's a lot of that involved. It's fine, um,
But one of the things that kept coming up, and
I just found it kind of funny and charming to
think about, is the moving of the bed and a
lot of people pointing out but like in the late
nineteen forties, a lot of beds still had wheels, and
like maybe that was adding to perhaps a precocious kids
(12:40):
ability to make the bed move without it. But then
there are all of these accounts that go, no, no, no,
he wasn't moving at all. He was lying perfectly. Still,
I don't know. Maybe maybe listen, clever children can set
up all kinds of mechanisms. I don't. I mean, I'm
very skeptical, so that's my my stance. But the other
thing that is very funny to me, and this is
(13:03):
like the ten year old boy who lives inside of
my soul coming out in the priest diary, there are
a couple of mentions of during his possession episodes flatulence
and I'm like, wait, is gas demonic now? Because it is.
(13:24):
We have a problem, right, I think we all have
a little problem to deal with At that point, it
just made me laugh and was a funny element in
this story. Yeah, oh the Exorcists, Roland Doe. It's very
ripe for people to interpret however they wish because of
(13:45):
the lack of documentation. So I am not a believer,
but if people love it and want to believe in it,
I guess that's fine. Yeah, it's one of those things
where I am not a believer either. And the one
thing that like troubles me about these kinds of stories
is how often it seems like, Okay, this is harming someone, right,
(14:07):
but then you get into fabulous movie depictions that are right.
And that's another thing is that there are definitely some
essays you will find where people will talk about like
if you actually believe that something like demonic possession is
possible that movie it does a terrible disservice and making
(14:29):
it this sensationalized thing and not a real problem to
deal with. But also, I mean we mentioned it. There
were definitely priests along the way who were like, hey,
I think doing an exorcism on a kid that maybe
needs a doctor is going to make stuff a lot worse. Um,
I mean there there was definitely a reluctance within the church.
There were a lot of people who were like I don't.
I don't think we're looking at this the right way.
(14:50):
This isn't the Middle Ages. We need to get this
kid like real help um from from trained professionals. Uh,
And that you know goes on. I couldn't rEFInd it
when I was first doing my pre LIMB research. You know,
you and I will both often like just search a
topic and look for kind of what's out there. There
was one account that I read that talked about one
(15:14):
of the priests either involved or like secondhand involved. He
had been a friend in one of them. I don't
remember because I could not find it again having seen
the exorcystem, being very very angry at how it sensationalized
things in a way that he thought would be damaging,
because his take was like, oh, this could be very
instructional for the general public. I don't know why anyone
(15:35):
would think a fictional movie would be that, but and
that being an element of its reception. But like I said,
I couldn't rEFInd that article, and so hey, when that happens,
oh it makes me crazy, and I like, I'll be like,
I'm looking at my history and my browser and I
can't find it in here either. And I hate it.
I mean, I don't think you're as bad as me,
but that is what happens when I do that thing
(15:55):
where I have like a hundred and thirty tabs open,
and then I'm like, well, damn it, or my computer
will crash and I'm like it's gone forever. I know
I'm never gonna find it again. I hope nobody feels
like they are possessed by anything other than joy this weekend,
and that you have obligations that they go smooth as silk,
and that if you don't, that you get some rest
(16:17):
and some fun. Since this is Halloween weekend, everybody be
very very careful out there if you're celebrating, and if
you're not, I hope you find peace and that you're
not in any way terrorized by people who want candy
or to play tricks. I am gonna have pumpkin waffles
because that's what the Muppets planted, the idea of a
(16:40):
Halloween brunch where everybody has um pancakes together, and I'm
gonna have waffles and have a cup of friends over.
I think I think we're planning to hand out candy
to trick or traders. If all goes well, I might
just be hanging out on the couch from getting a
booster shot whoa fingers crossed. So happy Halloween everybody. We
(17:04):
hope you have a great time. If you're you're celebrating,
and we will see you right back here tomorrow with
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Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, A production
of I Heart Radio, Hello and Happy Friday. I'm Holly
Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We talked about haunted
houses this week, Tracy, Yep, we did. I said that
(00:24):
we would mention in this episode kind of why this
is almost a or at least began really as a
uniquely US phenomenon. And it's something that actually came up
on our um Our episodes about the Haunted Mansion, because
we talked about how they expanded that idea into parks
around the world and how they're just other cultures where
(00:46):
the ghost thing is not cool as an entertainment, it's disrespectful,
and so that's part of the reason why, you know,
the US has this this kind of obsession with something
that maybe hasn't spread globally. I should mention that Universal
now does do Halloween horror nights in all of its
global um parks, So that is shifting, certainly. It's not
(01:08):
as though you know, other places haven't. It just seems
like the US took the idea and ran with it
at full tilt. Well, and when I was looking for
artwork to put on our social media for this episode. Like,
I did find pictures of mostly the exteriors of haunted
houses and other parts of the world, but I did
not look deeply enough to see if those were associated
(01:30):
with like US chains or like US business entities or
or not. I'm not going to out them, but I
will tell you. We have a colleague who recently confided
to me that they are afraid of the Haunted Mansion.
What which is so sweet? I gave your If you
(01:51):
just don't like scary things, even if they're kind of
cute and pretty benign, you just only scary things, it's fine, Yeah,
but it struck me as funny. Also, big out out
to my Patna Mansion if everybody hasn't watched it yet,
it's marvelous, um marvelous. Yeah. The last time I was
at Disney, I remember a small child at the very
(02:11):
beginning of the Haunted Mansion just absolutely losing it. And
in a way that was both upsetting and funny because
the child was obviously clearly scared, but it also seemed
like one of those moments that will be looked back
on you like, remember that time I got so scared?
(02:33):
Remember when you lost your mind in the hount image.
So when I was a kid, I grew up outside
of Winston Salem, North Carolina, and there was this place
that was called the Nature Science Center that has been
through a whole ton of changes since the name changes
and business changes and stuff since then. And it was
(02:54):
built on the grounds of an old hospital and they
had a haunted house that I remember being a fundraiser
for the Science Museum. I could be wrong about that, though,
and I feel like what they told us was that
the haunted House was in what had been the psychiatric
ward of well, of course, which I mean that's got
(03:21):
very problematic and offensive connotations right simultaneously. It was terrifying,
and I remember being so scared and in there every
single year, and yet every single year I was like,
when do we get to go to the Haunted House.
(03:42):
I tried briefly to confirm whether they were being truthful
with that, because it definitely was a hospital. The Science
Museum was not in what had been the hospital, but
the the hospital structure was still on the property, and
that was where they were having the haunted house. And
I remember of like the various haunted like there would
be uh the elementary school would have the haunted house
(04:03):
as a fundraiser for the p c A and like
that kind of stuff. And I remember, among all of
among all of the things, all of the haunted house
experiences of my childhood, the one at what was at
the time called the Nature Science Center was the scariest one. Yeah. Yeah,
I feel like we didn't do a whole bunch growing up.
(04:24):
I didn't really get into haunted houses until I was
like probably college age. My beloved used to help build
the j c's Haunted House every year. He has so
many like memories that he loves to recount about working
on those. And of course that was post all of
the code updates, so I haven't ever really asked him,
(04:45):
like with somebody there. Main sure everything was up to code,
but usually I think at that point most of those
that continued, we're trying to borrow spaces that we're already
up to code themselves, right Like can we do this
in the school's cafeteria for two nights, or can we
you this in you know, this um office park or whatever,
like they have one area that's not being used. I've
(05:06):
seen them there as well. Of Course, I feel I
didn't mention because we really didn't get into the modern ones,
there are a lot of it gets very busy, Like
I didn't mention that Atlanta, of course, is home to
one of the biggest and most famed and successful haunted
houses in the world, which is another world Haunted House Um,
which I had the delight a few years back of
(05:27):
touring it just by myself with our colleague Julie Um
when she was working on another podcast and we were
I was helping her capture some audio for it, and
that was one of the most fun experiences ever because
they kind of let us say, like, yes, let's do
lights out for here, and let's do the full thing,
or hey, can you turn the lights on because we
want to see how this works. So that was like
(05:48):
the most marvelous, beautiful, interactive haunted house experience you could
ever have. I don't think I ever actually went to
that haunted house. I just saw their participation in the
Dragon con parade. It's so good and I mean the
people there, and that's the thing. Most of the haunt community,
like I have friends that love it, love it. I
have friends that got engaged at like a universal Horror
(06:10):
Nights haunted attraction. They are so passionate about it as
an art in and of itself, and like, you know,
creating these places that are safe but still scary and fun.
And there are certainly outliers and some controversy within that
entire community about sure who does qualify as a haunt
versus something a little more sinister, And but you know,
(06:30):
once like another world. I just I'm blown away by
the level and degree of just work that goes into it. Yeah,
it's beautiful. I'm fun, I mean everything, oh time. One
thing I did want to know is, whenever we talk
(06:51):
about a fire, it seems like we get lots of
listener requests for other fires. And for whatever reason, of
all the tragedies we talked about on the show, the
fires tend to be uniquely terrible to research and write about.
So we don't do many of them. Because there are
(07:12):
a lot. They are particularly a lot in a way
that I don't know I can quite explain why. Yeah,
I mean it, it is it's hard. There were certainly
there are lots of details about that Haunting Castle fairy
that I did not feel needed to be in this
that are very upsetting. Um and I the other thing
is that that is recent enough that those families, you know,
are still around, and that people that grew up in
(07:34):
that area still talk about how harrowing it was and
the impact it had. So I did not want to
focus on any of the grizzlier aspects of it, because
that's just not important to the story. Um. But yes,
I UM. I hope that everybody that goes out and
enjoys a haunted house this year has a fun and
(07:55):
safe time, and that you walk out more giddy and
giggly than you do trouble from the whole thing, or
if you're me, you just keep trying to get the
haunted mansion to stop when you're in the ballroom so
you can look at everything for minutes, which happened the
last time I was there, and I was the happiest
(08:16):
squealing child on the planet. So happy haunts to everybody,
and we hope that your Halloween season is going delightfully. Tracy.
We talked about Rolando and possession and exorcism this week, yes,
(08:39):
and I mentioned that this is one that's been rattling
around in my brain for a while, and there are
a few reasons. One, I cannot tell you how much
this case was discussed in my house growing up, and
part of it is that, Uh, there's an interesting thing
that happens here in in reading about his case more
in depth and in some people's speculations, is there's a
(09:00):
lot of speculation about it. Um is that his mother
very much believed what was going on was some sort
of possession, and then his father was kind of like,
I don't know, I just want to help my kid.
And there is even speculation that his dad was a
little bit absent and that this may have been an
incident of him kind of acting out because he didn't
have the attention of his parents in the way that
(09:22):
he wanted. But it makes me laugh because can I
just tell you, I suspect that if I had behaved
in any of these ways, my mom would have been like,
you're possessed and my dad would have been like, what
is your problem? Because my dad was very much not
a believer in such things, and my mom loved it
(09:42):
all and was really into all of that kind of
lower and and paranormal stuff. So it made me laugh
so hard as I went, and any time the parents
were brought up, I was like, yeah, I know, I
know this dynamic. Yeah I uh so, I've never read
the book The Exorcist, and I did not see the
film until I was solidly into adulthood because I was
(10:08):
raised in a household that was strict about what we
were allowed to watch on TV and movies, And like
I didn't even have like a friend that sneaked it
into the slumber party or anything like that. Like there
were a couple of times where we did have slumber
parties and we watched something scary, but like, never The Exorcist.
So I was probably close to thirty by the time
(10:29):
I saw it for the first time. And even then
there were elements of it that were like firmly in
my psyche just because of how present they were in discussion,
Like the whole idea of the projectile pea soup. Already
knew a lot about that from many years of having
(10:49):
heard about it before I ever saw that on the
screen and the television. Yeah, became a punchline in a
lot of ways, right, Yeah, if someone was really angry,
people would go, are you to start throwing up soup
on me? Like, I rewatched it again a couple of
times while I was working on this kind of to
(11:10):
to really note the differences between it and the story
as is recorded. It was more sexual than I remembered.
It's probably been it has long since I watched it.
It's probably only been like four years. But my brain
wiped some of that and I was like, whoa, I
don't remember it being as much. And that is how
I found out, in mentioning that to my husband that
he's never seen it. I don't know how that happened
(11:33):
because I watch it with frequency, but I think I
must be watching it in the sewing room without him,
I will say again, and I tweeted about it. The
sound design on that movie is spectacular. It's spectacular, um.
And I don't just mean like, oh it really sounds
gross like in terms of how it transitions from scene
to scene. It's just handled beautifully. They deserved that Oscar,
(11:53):
no question about it. I also wanted to mention two
other things that came up. And this is a thing
that gets bandied about, and I will say, if you
go looking for information on this story online, you will
find a lot of um. I don't know if banter
is the right word, but there is a lot of
Well I did research and it contradicts this other writer
(12:15):
that everybody thinks is the expert, and like, no, I
did my research. There's a lot of that involved. It's fine, um,
But one of the things that kept coming up, and
I just found it kind of funny and charming to
think about, is the moving of the bed and a
lot of people pointing out but like in the late
nineteen forties, a lot of beds still had wheels, and
like maybe that was adding to perhaps a precocious kids
(12:40):
ability to make the bed move without it. But then
there are all of these accounts that go, no, no, no,
he wasn't moving at all. He was lying perfectly. Still,
I don't know. Maybe maybe listen, clever children can set
up all kinds of mechanisms. I don't. I mean, I'm
very skeptical, so that's my my stance. But the other
thing that is very funny to me, and this is
(13:03):
like the ten year old boy who lives inside of
my soul coming out in the priest diary, there are
a couple of mentions of during his possession episodes flatulence
and I'm like, wait, is gas demonic now? Because it is.
(13:24):
We have a problem, right, I think we all have
a little problem to deal with At that point, it
just made me laugh and was a funny element in
this story. Yeah, oh the Exorcists, Roland Doe. It's very
ripe for people to interpret however they wish because of
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the lack of documentation. So I am not a believer,
but if people love it and want to believe in it,
I guess that's fine. Yeah, it's one of those things
where I am not a believer either. And the one
thing that like troubles me about these kinds of stories
is how often it seems like, Okay, this is harming someone, right,
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but then you get into fabulous movie depictions that are right.
And that's another thing is that there are definitely some
essays you will find where people will talk about like
if you actually believe that something like demonic possession is
possible that movie it does a terrible disservice and making
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it this sensationalized thing and not a real problem to
deal with. But also, I mean we mentioned it. There
were definitely priests along the way who were like, hey,
I think doing an exorcism on a kid that maybe
needs a doctor is going to make stuff a lot worse. Um,
I mean there there was definitely a reluctance within the church.
There were a lot of people who were like I don't.
I don't think we're looking at this the right way.
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This isn't the Middle Ages. We need to get this
kid like real help um from from trained professionals. Uh,
And that you know goes on. I couldn't rEFInd it
when I was first doing my pre LIMB research. You know,
you and I will both often like just search a
topic and look for kind of what's out there. There
was one account that I read that talked about one
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of the priests either involved or like secondhand involved. He
had been a friend in one of them. I don't
remember because I could not find it again having seen
the exorcystem, being very very angry at how it sensationalized
things in a way that he thought would be damaging,
because his take was like, oh, this could be very
instructional for the general public. I don't know why anyone
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would think a fictional movie would be that, but and
that being an element of its reception. But like I said,
I couldn't rEFInd that article, and so hey, when that happens,
oh it makes me crazy, and I like, I'll be like,
I'm looking at my history and my browser and I
can't find it in here either. And I hate it.
I mean, I don't think you're as bad as me,
but that is what happens when I do that thing
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where I have like a hundred and thirty tabs open,
and then I'm like, well, damn it, or my computer
will crash and I'm like it's gone forever. I know
I'm never gonna find it again. I hope nobody feels
like they are possessed by anything other than joy this weekend,
and that you have obligations that they go smooth as silk,
and that if you don't, that you get some rest
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and some fun. Since this is Halloween weekend, everybody be
very very careful out there if you're celebrating, and if
you're not, I hope you find peace and that you're
not in any way terrorized by people who want candy
or to play tricks. I am gonna have pumpkin waffles
because that's what the Muppets planted, the idea of a
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Halloween brunch where everybody has um pancakes together, and I'm
gonna have waffles and have a cup of friends over.
I think I think we're planning to hand out candy
to trick or traders. If all goes well, I might
just be hanging out on the couch from getting a
booster shot whoa fingers crossed. So happy Halloween everybody. We
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hope you have a great time. If you're you're celebrating,
and we will see you right back here tomorrow with
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