History Mysteries Double Feature

Two troubling tales from the 1920s share the stage in this episode. First, newlyweds that vanished on what would have been a historic boating trip. Second, a family murdered by someone who may have been hiding in their house for weeks or months.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class Fun How
Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.
I'm Molly Frying and I'm Tracy Wilson. So today, since
we are officially in the Halloween season and in the
Halloween mood, which I always am, we're gonna do something

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kind of similar to the two six impossible episodes we've
had in the past, but these are gonna be two,
So it's kind of like a history mystery double feature,
and it's gonna be two unsolved mysteries completely unrelated except
for the fact that they both took place in the
nineteen twenties and both of these topics have been requested
by listeners. Both are really quite fascinating, but because of

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the open ended nature of each of them and a
relative lack of evidence, trying to piece together an entire
episode on each would have involved a lot of speculation
rather than actual history. So we're sticking to actual things
we know for the most part, and you're getting a
two for one. So also, I wanted to include a
quick trigger your warning. This episode does include the discussion

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of some rather gory and violent things, including violence against children.
We're not going to get a specially graphic about it.
But if that's something that you're just not comfortable hearing
about in any form, or if you have younger listeners
that you would rather shield from that for the moment,
the second story in our duo might not be for you.
So first we're going to get started with the story
of Glenn and Bessie Hyde, and this one was requested

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most recently by our listener Joseph. In nine newly Webb.
Glenn and Bessie Hyde decided to start their marriage by
trying to make history. They're going to travel the entire
length of the Grand Canyon by boat. So if that
doesn't sound all that ambitious to you, please rest assured that,
in fact, it was. Up to that point. Remember this,

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only forty five people had managed to travel the full
length of the Grand Canyon by river, and a woman
had never done it, and Bessie wanted to be the first,
and Glenn wanted to be the fastest. The forty five
who had six askfully made the trip before the Hives
had all done so in rowboats, some of them modified,
but Glen and Bessie wanted to do it in a

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sweep scal Glenn, who was almost thirty at the time,
had plenty of boating experience growing up. He boated on
the skin A River in British Columbia with his family
by canoe on a regular basis, and when Glen was
twenty one, he and a friend had actually taken a
six month trip down Canada's Peace River by canoe, and
then in n he traveled on a sweep scow with

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his sister from the Salmon River in Idaho all the
way to the Pacific Ocean. Messy didn't have the same
boating experience that Glen did. She was more of an
artist than an outdoors woman, and she was a graduate
of the California School of Fine Art in San Francisco.
She was full of adventurous spirit and the pair met
in February of nineteen seven on a passenger ship, and

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they got married a little more than a year later
in twin Falls, Idaho, on April twelfth of n That
was an interesting date because it was also the sixteenth
anniversary of the Titanic sinking, and it was also just
one day after Bessie's divorced from her first husband was finalized.
Part of their motivation for this daring honeymoon that often
comes up is the idea that they could monetize a

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successful trip down the canyon. Two expeditions with film crews
down the river inn had garnered a lot of media
attention one of them because it went very poorly and
required a rescue. If Bessie could make it down the river,
she would make history as the first woman to do so,
and if Glenn could do it in record time, opportunities
like book deals and lecture bookings would probably follow. However,

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that is uh the commonly written about reason for all
of this. But Brad Dimmock, who wrote a book about
Glenn and Bessie titled Sunk Without a Sound, actually came
into possession of a letter from Bessie to her aunt
and uncle Ruth and Millard Haley after his book had
been completed and published, and he UH posted this online

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with some commentary. And in this letter Bessie writes excitedly
about the trip, and there's not a single mention though
about any of these ambitions in the way of publicity
or book deals or fame. So it's entirely possible that
that fame and money making angle that is often retold
in this whole story is one of those embellishments that

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has sort of grown around the story as time has
moved the actual details out of clear focus. Glynn spent
fifty dollars and two days putting together the boat, which
they named Rain in the Face, and they precked it
with a bed, survival supplies, and journals awaiting their documentation
of the journey. They did not pack any life jackets,
and they started their journey on October with a plan

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to arrive in Needles, California on December nine. Yeah. So
at this point they had only been married about six months,
and initially the Hides did successfully navigate several sections of
the river. Several weeks into the journey, on November sixteenth,
they stopped at Grand Canyon Village on the South Rim
in order to get fresh supplies, and while there they
actually spoke with the Denver Post reporter about their adventure.

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They also met up with Ellsworth and Emory Colb, who
were well known boatman and even better known photographers who
had a studio on the cliff side. Emery Coleb wanted
to give them life jackets, but Glenn turned them down.
Cole would later say that it seemed like Bessie seemed
nervous and wanted to quit, but that Glenn was urging
her on, and famously, Bessie is quoted as saying, I

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wonder if I'll ever wear pretty shoes again as she
looked at Emery's daughter's footwear. Then, when they returned to
the river with their resupply of provisions, they met up
with Adolph G. Sutro. This is not the Adolph Sutro
who was the mayor of San Francisco in the nineties.
It was, in fact his grandson, and Sutro asked if
he could ride along with them in their scow for

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a day or so, and the Hides agreed, and Sutro
traveled the next eight miles of river with them. When
they dropped him off at Hermit Creek on November, it
would be the last time anyone saw them. Glenn and
Bessie did not arrive in Needles on December Nineth's plan.
When Glenn's expectant father, Roland Hide, received no word of

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their landing at the pre arranged date and location, he
immediately feared that something had gone wrong. Rolland Hide launched
a massive search effort to find Glen and Bessie. There
were search parties tasked with canvassing sections of the river,
so multiple searches were going on at one time in
different places. Native American trackers were recruited to see if

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they could find any evidence of the pair moving over land,
and eventually even an aerial search was authorized by the
U S Secretary of Wars. They actually used military plans
to look for them. After days of searching, the Hide
scow was spotted in the aerial sweep was sitting in
the middle of the river at mile two thirty seven.
Emory Colb and his brother joined Roland Hide, and the

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trio traveled to Peach Springs, Arizona, where they hiked down
to the mouth of Diamond Creek. Located at mouth there
are boats at awaiting repair. The Cold brothers took several
days to get the reclaimed boat water ready, and then
they headed to the location where the scout had been spotted.
Roland did not go with them. When they reached the

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rain in the face, it was December. The boat was
completely intact. All of the supplies that Glenn and Bessie
had packed remained, and everything was tidy and stowed properly.
It did not look like it had been shifted about
in some sort of dangerous event. Uh. The Cold Brothers
photograph the scene then, being quite well known photographers, we
actually have some really good pictures in terms of capturing

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what they found. And then they returned to Roland Hyde.
They gathered as much as they could take with them,
and they told him that it did not appear that
Glenn and Bessie had left their boat intentionally. Based on
Bessie's diary which was found in the boat, the two
thirty two mile Rapid was likely the last section of
river that they ran. They had made it six hundred
miles on the Green and Colorado Rivers. The boat was

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found just forty six miles from the mouth of Grand Canyon,
and according to the details of the journal, they had
actually been ahead of schedule. Yea, so they had been
moving along quite well. They were ahead of schedule. They
were very close to the end. Uh. But we they
were simply not there when they went to look for them.

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And while I want to be clear when I say
that all of their supplies were stowed, they were in
the places you would expect them to be during normal use.
They weren't stowed like packed away like they had had
left the boat and they were going off somewhere else.
But before we wrap up the Glen and Bessie Hyde story,
let's pause for a brief word from one of our
fabulous sponsors. Sounds good. It was not long before most

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people and most news outlets declared that the newlyweds must
be dead. Their bodies were not ever found, though, although
Roland later did return to search for them. Yeah, he
even went back the following winter to search for them.
He kind of looked in different conditions hoping that he
would find them, but nothing ever turned up. So what
happened to the newly weds remains of street, although, of course,

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in cases like this, numerous theories have arisen. Where the
hides murdered? Did they drown? A few interesting possibilities have
cropped up over the years that kind of get repeated
over and over. In ninetev one, during a commercial boating trip,
while the participants were sitting around a campfire, an elderly
woman claimed to be Bessie. When the woman was questioned

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by one of the other attendees about Glenn, she said
she had stabbed him after a fight and then hikes
to Peach Springs, Arizona and gotten on a bus going
east where she started a new life. Investigation unearthed a
far more mundane story that she was simply a retired
lady who liked to pull people's legs. Yeah, it seems
really cool, and it's one of those things I always

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have to chuckle a little bit if you read sort
of brief descriptions of this. They'll talk about all of
the possibilities, but they never talked about the more mundane things.
They get turned up if you look more closely, of course.
And then later in nineteen seventy six, a skull with
a bullet hole in it was found on Emery Cobb's
property and rumors started to circulate that it could be Glenn's. However,

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forensics ruled out that possibility. That man who I don't
believe has ever been identified, had died no earlier according
to these to testing the nineteen seventy two and he
was only twenty two at the time, so he could
not possibly have been Glenn. Another River guy, a woman
named Georgie Clark, died in two and among her belongings

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was found the highest marriage certificate, So question coming up
was she Bessie? There was also a birth certificate indicating
that her name was Bessie d Ross, not Georgie, which
has also field and speculation, but none of these claims
have been substantiated. Yeah, a number of historians have weighed
in on it, and after closer investigation, they really don't

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feel like this is the real deal, And I think
the documents are authentic or right um or that, like,
possibly one is but not the other. It would be
weird if Bessie had vanished on the river and she
happened to have her birth certificate and marriage certificate with her, Like,

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those aren't things you take on a boating trip. At
least it's not anything I would take on a boating trip.
But uh, those are just some food for thoughts. So
we really don't know. The you know, speculation will probably
go on forever because at this point we are almost
a hundred years out, We're ninety years out or show,
and you know, we're not not likely going to get

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any big answers on those. Uh. And that brings us
to the second of our sort of creepy story double feature.
This is uh insanely creepy in my opinion. It's also
often very requested. Most recently it was requested by our
listeners Stacy. And while it is a great story and
one that I have always found fascinating and have debated

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about trying to put a standalone epis sewed together around it,
there just really is not enough to go on. Uh.
So that's the scoop on this one. We are talking
about the hinter K murders. This is a long standing
unsolved crime and it's one of the most famous in
German history. So the word hinter kfk. I think part

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of the reason that this one gets so much excitement
is it it sounds exotic because it's foreign to any
English listeners, but English speaking listeners. But in fact, that
is actually the name of the farm where these murders
took place. Hinter if I'm remembering my very sloppy appreciation
of German correctly, usually means behind uh and this was
behind an area that would have been called Kfe. This

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farmstead was about three from grubern Uh and that was
in the Bavarian municipality of Vangen, which is now the
municipality of Vadhoven, and the farm was about a kilometer
away from the town of k Fix. So, like I said,
the name literally meant behind kfik and it was a
relatively isolated farmstead living at Hinder Cafe in nineteen two

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when this happened, where a farmer Andrea Scruber who was
sixty three, his wife Cazilia, who was seventy two, their
daughter Victoria aged thirty five, who was a widow, and
Victoria's two children, all one also named Kazia who was
seven and Joseph who was two. In addition to the family,
a brand new maid named Maria Bumgartner age forty four

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was at the farm as well, and we mean we
mean super brand new. She had started work the very
day that these events were going to talk about came
to a crescendo. The previous made that they had had
had quit rather abruptly six months prior in the autumn
of one, and the story goes that she very frankly

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told them that she believed that the farm was haunted,
that she wanted to leave right away, and she believed
that because she heard noises both footsteps and voices, she
claimed coming from the attic. On March at Andreas Gruber
made an odd discovery. He found footprints in the snow
leading from the edge of the forest to his farm.

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There was no matching set leading back into the woods.
My heart is beating a little faster having read that something.
He also found evidence that someone had tried to pick
the lock on his garage. He told his neighbors that
he had found a strange paper left at the house
and had heard strange noises in the attic. A set

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of keys had also vanished. And upon hearing about these
strange events we should include the grouper checked them out.
He looked in the attic and he found nobody, and
he you know, looked around for his keys, and he
tried to think of any way that the newspaper could
have gotten I believe it was on his porch. Uh.
But he never found anybody or anything. He just kind

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of shrugged it off. So when he was telling his
neighbors about these strange events, one of them actually offered
him a revolver for self defense because it sounded really
creepy to them, But Grouper actually turned that off her down.
I'm just gonna imagine that somebody walked really carefully in
their same footprints on the way back from the house
to the edge of the forest on Saturday, April one,

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the younger because he missed school. On April second, the
entire family failed to appear at church, which was extremely unusual.
On Monday, April three, because he was once again absent
from school, and when the postman attempted to deliver mail
that day, he noticed Saturday's mail was still in the box.

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When nobody answered his knock, he just left that day's mail.
A mechanic named Albert Hofner went to the farm on
April four to complete some repair to a piece of
machinery that he had been contracted to do, and he knocked.
He didn't get any answer, and he saw no one,
but he knew what he had to do, so he
went ahead and repaired the feeding machine. It took him

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about five hours, and during that time he saw no
one and he left and he didn't mention into neighbors
as he left. Hey, I didn't see any of the groupers,
but I was there and I fixed their machine. So
let them know. And that's where things started to get
a little suspicious. So later in the afternoon of April four,

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neighbors finally decided to check in on the groupers. Nobody
had seen any of them for several days, when nobody
answered any of their knocks or calls, they noticed that
the barn doors were locked, so they broke in. And
before we get to the barn discovery and so truly
creepy and probably unsettling for some listeners, elements of this
story that come out after that, we're gonna pause for

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a sponsor break so we don't have to drop it
right into the middle of any gruesome discussion. So what
these neighbors found in this barn that they broke into
was horrifying, to say the least. And the barn were
four corpses. These were the bodies of Andreas Casilia, the
elder Victoria, and the child Casilia. The bodies had been
covered over with straw, and then an old door had

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been placed on top of it. Further investigation revealed that
the maid, Maria Baumgartner and the tiny Joseph had been
murdered in the farmhouse. A young man was sent by
bicycle to von Gan to summon the authorities. By the
time the investigators got there, though, there was already a
crowd milling about contaminating evidence. If you like crowds, should

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always listen to our podcast because this is a recurring theme,
and w crowd came and they tromped all over everything.
When we time travel, that can be our our entire
mission is to go tell crowds not to go contaminate evidence.
So allegedly some of the crowd were even in the
kitchen making snacks for other people. Yeah, so needless to say,

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evidence was going to be pretty dicey at that point.
Autopsies were carried out on site in the barn, I
believe by Dr Johann Baptiste al Mutler, and it was
determined that on the night of March thirty one to
the six people had each been brutally attacked with blows
to the head. Despite some of the contamination of the evidence,

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investigators were able to piece things together enough to come
to the conclusion that the four members of the family
who had been killed in the barn had been lured
there one by one in some way as a sort
of tramp and kind of lured in and jumped. Andreas's wife,
Cazelia and their daughter Victoria also showed signs of strangulation
in addition to their head wounds. The younger Cazelia had

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pieces of her own hair clenched in her right hand.
It was postulated that she had not died instantly like
the others have, and that that the others had and
that she may have torn out her own hair in
dismay or shock. The heads of all of the bodies
were removed by Dr. Al Mueller and sent to Munich

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for additional investigation, since that was the area that seemed
to have sustained the death blow, and these heads were
also allegedly handled by a clairvoyant. Eventually that was brought
in by authorities in a desperate attempt to get any
sort of lead in the case. Neither the examiners in
Munich nor any of the psychics discovered anything new in
the handling of the victim's heads. Numerous details, aside from

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the grizzly killings, made the discovery of the Hinokapic murders
really unsettling. While the family had been killed on the
night of March thirty one and the days between then
and the discovery on April four, neighbors had seen smoke
coming from the farmhouse chimney. Additionally, the animals on the
farm had been cared for during that time and the

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cows had been milked. It was as though the killer
or killers made himself at home for a while after
brutally dispatching with the family, and given the fact that
Gruber had lost a set of keys and found a
random newspaper just prior to the murders, it's entirely possible
that the killer may have made himself at home for
a while before the events on March thirty one. While

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the robbery was initially suspected as the motive, there were
large sums of cash that were easily found in the
house and had obviously been left behind. There were also
some roof tiles that appeared to have been drawn back
in two places, one over the barn roof went on
the barn roof and one over the farmhouse. And if

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I understand descriptions and looked at the photos correctly, there
was kind of one big roof that covered the barn,
and then there was like a courtyard that had a roof,
and then it also continued over to the house, but
over the barn and over the house. Tiles had been
removed so that an intruder that was hidden could have
had pretty easy views of both the whole farmstead and

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the family, depending on where they were positioned. So this
family had had problems before they were murdered. They were
a well known family, but not really that popular in
the community. Andreas in particular had a bad reputation for
a number of reasons. One was that he was abusive
to his wife. He also was believed to have had

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an incestuous relationship with his daughter Victoria, and many believed
that young Joseph was in fact his child. It's pretty
easy math to note that Joseph had been born about
five years after Victoria's husband had died, so he definitely
was not a child of that marriage, because remember, he
was two when this happened. And at the time of
Joseph's birth, a neighboring farmer named Lauren Schlittenbauer was named

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as the father of Joseph, but this actually became a
really contentious issue, and Schlittenbauer actively claimed that Andreas had
fathered his own grandchild. As for suspects, there's a fairly
popular theory that Victoria may not have been a widow
after all, and that her husband committed the murders. Carl
Gabriel died in the transits in France during World War One,

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and you'll occasionally fine site that will say things like,
but his body was never recovered. There are plenty of
eyewitness accounts of him being killed at the Battle of
Nuvilla on December to wealth nineteen four, so it's really sensationalism.
But unfortunately, it's also all too common for the bodies
of soldiers to go unrecovered in wartime yep uh. There

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are some financial reasons that people point to as like
what would have been his motivator or that he was
angry about the incest. Again, in a case like this,
for there is not much to go on, it's very
easy to fill in the blanks with fanciful thoughts. Another
popular theory names that neighbor Lauren Schlittenbauer as the likely
killer due to his entanglement with Victoria, because there is

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some pretty significant indicators that he in Victoria did have
some sort of sexual relationship um and this battle that
he had with Andreas over whether or not he had
fathered Victoria's youngest child. There's also some assertions in there
that he may have planned to marry Victoria, but that
Andreas was very jealous of her and would not allow

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her to do so. So there is a lot of
drama connected to the Schlittenbauer possibility. The Gruberg family and
Maria Bumgartner were interred at wide Hoffen, their heads were
never returned from Munich and their beliefs to have been
lost during World War two. Yeah, ironically, I have never

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really dug up much that attaches any sort of creepiness
to the loss of these six heads. Uh. People just
tend to write it off. As you know, world War two,
there were lots of crazy things happening, and it's entirely
possible that that was simply destroyed. Uh. And what's also
interesting is that during the initial investigation, no murder weapon

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was found, even though on the autopsy report it does
suggest that it was a pickaxe. However, when the buildings
at the farmstead were torn down a year after all
of these events, a madock was allegedly found. And a
matic is similar to an ice pick. It has a
long handle and it has a head that has a
cutter on one end and either an axe blade or
a pick on the other. A man who sometimes worked

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as a hand on the farm identify the matic as
belonging to Gruber. It was one he owned and had
in fact made, was normally stored with the rest of
the tools and equipment in the tool shed. Yes, so
by virtue of it and not having been found when
everything happened in the initial investigation happened and only being
turned up a year later when they raised the buildings,

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it does kind of point to it having been out
of place. But we don't know. And while dozens of
people were questioned in the case, more than a hundred,
no official suspect was ever named. Uh. This case has
been reopened at various points throughout the years. It has
never been solved, though, I believe in two thousand seven
there was a university group that did a study of

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it where they tried to apply modern forensics to what
they had, and they came up with who they feel
is the most likely killer, but they did not name
that person out of respect for the fact that there
are surviving relatives of that person and it would kind
of just be dredging up something that couldn't be proven
and could potentially taint the family name. But we basically
don't know what happened. We don't know if someone was

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living in their attic for six months, because remember their
previous maid had said quite some time before the murders
that she heard voices and weird noises, or if this
was just a one day event that happened. I will
also tell you this as a warning if you go
looking for this online. There are some pretty graphic images

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taken of the crime scenes. So if that is not
something you are comfortable looking at or can stomach, I
would not google search this particular thing. Don't google it
at all. Like this thing up and that here are
some images about They're extremely, extremely horrifying, and they are
literally the first thing that comes up when you google it. Uh.

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This reminds me of creepy stories that keep circulating around
the Internet at various times, where people are like I
just discovered someone has been secretly secretly living in this
tiny compartment that was in our walls, and yeah, yeah,
it is a very creepy thing. I mean, it's kind
of I think one of the reasons that people, I

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don't want to say love to tell this story because
that sounds horrifying. But there is a certain fascination with it.
And part of it is that it combines so many
of the key elements of like a good scary story,
you know. One there is some gruesome murders too. There
is this possibility that there is a person watching people
for a long time unnoticed. And three, there is all

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of this weird drama around love triangles and you know, paternity,
and there's just it has all of the ingredients for
a good drama, which is well and like it so much.
I can't remember if I have mentioned this in a
previous post episode wrap up slash listener mail. There is

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an eerily similar murder near where I grew up that's
similar in that the whole family was blood into death
and there was a lot of rumors about whether the
father of the family had been having an affair with
the daughter. Um. It seems like this is a story
that crops up repeatedly in terms of whole families being

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slaughtered with with questionable things going on in the families
history and relationships. Yeah, uh yeah, it's a it's very fascinating.
Like I said, it's a very fascinating story, and I
have kind of tiptoed around it for a long time,
going oh, when can I start doing And I finally
just decided to do it, like I said, as a

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combo with another thing that couldn't quite fill out an episode.
So that's in again the sense of classic horror Drive
in moments. Ever, it's your podcast double feature. But now
I have listener mail which is a little bit tragic
but also a little bit fabulous, and it is from
our listener. Errand and Eron says, I recently listened to
your podcast on the vanishing of the USS Cyclops and

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in it you mentioned the disappearance of Flight and I teen, which,
while tragic, allowed me, my sister, and all my cousins
to come into existence. My grandmother was engaged to be
married to one of the pilots lost in Flight nineteen,
George Panessa. Unfortunately, after he was lost in the training flight,
he was of course unable to marry my grandmother, and
years later she met and married my grandfather, leading to

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six children and ten grandchildren who would not exist if
George hadn't been lost. To add to the story of
my great aunt married George's brother, Frank, so there is
still pan us of blood in my family. A few
years ago there was an unsolved Mysteries episode regarding Flight
nineteen which claimed that George reached out to his sister
in law, ostensibly my great aunt, and said in a letter,

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I'm fine, don't come looking for me, this never actually happened.
The case later revealed a photo of George's alleged girlfriend
at the time of his death. This is most definitely
not a picture of my grandmother, So the mystery continues.
I myself and happy to say that if it were
not for the Bermuda Triangle, I would not be who
I am today. I love this for a number of reasons.

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One because it is a really great story, but to
it also really does point out like if you're watching
things sometimes on television, you can't always trust the veracity
of the things they are telling and showing you. Uh
So that is one of the reasons we try to
be really careful with sources. I will confess that when
I was doing my hinter Cafic research, there's not a

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lot of English language stuff, so I was going to
German sites and translating. So hopefully I did not munge
up any of the details in those translations, because it
is very tricky and I am not fluent in German
by a long shot. I know only the tiniest amount.
But yeah, so that is our double feature and an
interesting touchback on the vanishing of Flight nineteen. Thank you, Aaron.

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