September 1, 2021 • 15 mins
Josh and Chuck finally put to rest the age old debate over which is better – and learn a little about themselves along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh and
there's Chuck over there, and this is short stuff and
we're shorten it up stuff person. Yeah, this one is Uh,
it's amazing, especially when you're a listener of the Judge
John Hodgman episode Um from our Old Pal or Old
Pals Jesse Thorn and John hodgment. How many cases come
(00:26):
through and not major cases they do the smaller sort
of just email cases at the end about couples fighting
over dishwashing. Yeah, I can totally see that, because this
is one of those things where you're just like, it's
intuitively correct one way or another. But this is one
of those beautiful and rare things where it's like, no,
(00:47):
the one is demonstrably correct the thing you should be doing,
and even better, it's the thing that you wouldn't think
would be the correct thing to do. It's a beautiful thing. Chuck,
and I'm gonna stop talking vague terms and let's really
drill into this. Yeah, and beyond what we're going to
mainly talk about, which is is it better to hand
wash dishes or use your dishwasher? Uh, the nitpicky how
(01:12):
to load a dishwasher thing is the subject of It's
just sort of one of the most age old arguments
you can have in a marriage, because people come into
the marriage or a relationship or partnership with very strong
ideas on how to wash dishes, how do so how
to load a dishwashers in dispute like should you hang
from the ceiling or lay on the floor? Oh sure?
(01:35):
Like should you do half of a dishwasher load? Do
you load the silverware? Times up or times down? Or
does it even matter times up unless you're like some
sort of deranged criminal. Is it knives up or knives down?
Knives up? Oh? So leave those stabby things just pointing up. Well,
if it's an actual knife, you shouldn't be washing those
in your dishwasher anyway. But I'm talking about like a
(01:56):
dinner knife or a butter knife. Oh no, what do
you mean? You shouldn't be washing the steak knife. You
don't want to run a good knife through a dishwasher, pal,
I don't care what the energy your water savings. This
is because it wears them down. And also usually if
you have a good knife, you have a probably a
knife with a good handle on it, and they're not
usually made to be run through the dishwasher, they start
to crack or if it's would it becomes problematic. And
(02:20):
there's no faster way to doll a knife than to
run it through a dishwasher. Yeah, what does it? I
believe particulate matter, uh, beating it, kind of sand blasting it,
and then also just the water, the effect of the
water over time. These are you don't want to do that.
You don't want to do that that People debate incessantly
(02:41):
in marriages about dishwasher Emily and I go back and
forth about dishwasher stuff all the time because we both
do it a little bit, and it seems like one
of those things in a partnership where one person just
should just be in charge and the other other person
should stay out of it. I see, Yeah, there are
things like that. You mean, I have laundries once. She's like,
(03:02):
I am doing the laundry. Emily won't let me do laundry. Yeah,
but dish washing, we've never really had a problem with. Um,
do you both load it? No? We both hand wash.
Oh no, you don't know, it's true. We both handwashed.
Like I've been researching this and I notice some cass
Gate commercials and was like is that true? And then
(03:23):
that actually prompted me a cass Gate commercial prompted me
to pick this one, and um, it was like like
when I researched it, it it was like, no, the cass
Gate commercial tells the truth, and this is something I
should not be doing anymore, which is handwashing dishes. So
you have a dishwasher and you would still handwash all
your dishes. Yeah, we have a nice dishwasher too, and
how would you still handwash? Well, one one reason why
(03:45):
is we thought that it was it uses less energy, water,
all that stuff, which it turns out is just wrong.
And then the other reason why, as I remember seeing
like the guy who created the hygiene hypothesis or we
talked about his study once where people who eat off
of plates or used utensils that have been run through
(04:06):
the dishwasher had higher incidences of allergies to like food
and other things than people who hand washed because they
were exposed to slightly more germs. So we were hand
washing because it's dirtier. Basically is that is how you
can kind of boil it down. But now I'm kind
of like, man, this is this seems like the wrong
(04:27):
thing to do. Handwashing dishes, and I did it like
all the wrong ways, water running the whole time, the
whole shebang. All right, Well, I think that that actually
turns out to be a set up, and we'll take
a break and we'll come back and even though you
kind of spoiled it, uh, will reveal the real truth
right after this. Alright, Chuck revealed the truth. Well, it
(05:14):
is a big misconception that using a dishwasher, even and
they say you should really load that thing full, but
I have seen statistics that even doing like more half
loads per week is still a lot less water than
hand washing dishes. Yeah. Um, which is a real big surprise.
I think one of the reasons why I didn't understand
(05:35):
this because you and I grew up with dishwashers that
were terrible as far as efficiency and water uses concerned.
But unbeknownst to us, even though I have a pretty
new dishwasher, I'm guessing you probably do too. Um that
they they they have advanced by leaps and bounds in
the last few years and now they're actually like lean
mean energy and water saving machines. They are the Energy
(05:59):
Star program in the United States, the government getting involved
and regulating things across the board. The Energy Star program
has been a massive success, and a certified Energy Star
dishwasher in the US uses less than four gallons of
water per cycle, the whole thing, the whole thing, and
(06:22):
you can go through four gallons of water every two
minutes off your handwashing. Yeah, they have efficiency, high efficiency
faucets now that typically come in and about one and
a half gallons per minute. And I don't think it's
legal to have a faucet more than two and a
half gallons in the United States or two point two
gallons per minute. But even still, like like I did
(06:43):
a little math, and like you were saying, you've seen
before where even if you run half loads multiple times
a week, Um, if you're doing like a quarter of
a load of dishes and you're using all four gallons,
you're still probably using less water than you would to
wash that cord load by hand, because it's probably going
to take longer than two minutes to do all those dishes.
(07:05):
So if you have the water running the whole time,
even running a quarter load is still going to save
more water than if you were doing the dishes by hand. Okay,
but hey, you're not using anything on your power bill.
You're not burning any coal or even using any solar
to use your hands. So it's clearly better to use
your hands and not that energy consuming dishwasher right now
(07:28):
because that hot water. Thank you for sending me up
to look like the smart one here. I appreciate that.
Because the hot water that's coming out of your tap
comes from your hot water heater. Uh. If you're using
a hot water heater, in fact, you're actually using a
lot of energy to heat that water, and it's going
on constantly, whereas a high efficiency or just a regular
new dishwasher um uses kind of targeted uh hot water,
(07:54):
not throughout the whole time. So it's not that water
is not being heated the whole time while you're washing
the dishes. If you use the dishwasher, it is while
you're doing it by hand. That's right. With an energy
star dishwasher, you can use that thing four times a
week and it will only cost you and run up
about a hundred and thirty dollars worth of energy a
(08:15):
year a year. And that's even assuming eleven kill a
watt eleven cents to kill a watt hour I saw,
which is that's all less than average. Yeah, so dishwasher efficiency.
This is where Emily and I really get into most
of our scrapes. It's not times upper, times down, it
is uh my, um, you know, I'm I'm sort of
(08:37):
the family packer. I'm the tetris master. So when I'm
packing a car for a trip, or packing when we've
had to move and stuff like that, she leaves that
stuff to me because I'm really good at like making
the most efficient use of a space, and I carry
that over to the dishwasher. I can tetris that thing.
So it's so full, it's like can barely even hold
(08:59):
the amount of stuff on a rack. And it just
makes me so happy. Whereas Emily will get in there,
she'll be like she'll use the juicer in the morning
and maybe the food processor that you know, these things
have large, sort of multiple components and that's it. You
got like two glasses and then that stuff to run
a dishwasher load. And it drives me crazy because then
(09:20):
the stuff is stacking up in the sink and uh.
I try to be like, honey, you gotta put more
stuff in here, and she's like, no, it's better just
to run up more. You just gotta stay on it. Huh. Well,
So one of the things that popped up to me is,
you know, it's just you, me and Momo and I here.
So we have a limited number of dishes um that
we use and that we even have in some cases
(09:42):
we kind of try to trim it down to whatever
we need, not like you know, we each have one
fork or anything like that, but you know, like the
number of cops and that kind of stuff that we
have hanging around is limited to where we couldn't do
the dishes just once a week, like you just can't.
So that's it's kind of like still run the dishwasher.
(10:03):
No you can't, Yes, of course you can. You come
over anytime you want. That's my dream, dude. If Emily
wouldn't think I was crazy, I would assign each family
member a cup before, a spoon and knife, and a
plate in a bowl, and I would throw everything else
out because we have She'll go through eight water glasses
in a day because she just sits them down and
(10:25):
then goes and gets another one, and it drives me bonkers.
So you're decorating an inspiration is like re education camp. Man.
It makes me crazy, and then kids like you'd be
surprised at how much how many dishes a six year
old will go through it too. Oh yeah, no, you
totally can, especially if you have a lot of dishes
you go through, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, and
(10:46):
then they build up to they just kind of just accumulates. Dude,
We've got like twenty five coffee cups and I don't
drink coffee. It's ridiculously like a cute coffee cups though,
So what are you gonna do deny her her her collection? No,
And I don't actually blame her because that is the
thing that we have the most of too, because you
(11:06):
can get cool stuff and we like our plates. We
have lovely plates that we like. But we also get
into it with the other things in the efficiencies, which
is resisting the urge to pre rense. I'll do a
scrape and throw it in the dishwasher and Emily he's like, no, man,
you gotta rinse that stuff off really good or it's
not going to get clean. And they're saying, not true. No,
(11:27):
Emily is a demon from hell for even suggesting that. Apparently,
I'll tell her that, yeah, like you do not prerense
the dishes, that is Ah, as one of the guys
from the Natural Resources Defense Counsel, I think the senior
scientist his name is Noah Horowitz, says, it is a
complete waste of water and energy, and you're a demon
(11:51):
from hell if you do it. That's what the dishwasher
is for. That's what I always say. But there's another
thing that comes from our upbringing and our being eighties
and seventies kids too, is you That did not used
to be the case. Those things basically had to go
in sparkling clean for them to come out sparkling clean.
And now dishwashers are just that much better, where if
(12:11):
you scrape the stuff off and you put them in there,
they're gonna come out clean. Remember that ad for either
dishwashers or dishwashing detergent where they they baked in frosted
a cake and then put the whole thing with the
plate on it in the dishwasher and ran it and
it came out clean. I don't remember that. One's gross.
It's almost as bad as that lys Al commercial where
(12:31):
the woman uses the raw chicken to wiper counters down
rather than Oh, I haven't seen that either. Oh, it's
tough to watch this one. Was not nearly as bad,
but in the same ballpark for sure. Well, they say,
scrape it, fill it up as good as you can,
don't do the pre rents. And then if you can
(12:51):
afford to upgrade from that that nineteen nineties model that
is using way more energy because you're you know, it's
gonna cost you in the long ground and with your
water bill and with your power bill. So if you
can scrape together the money to upgrade that to a
to a better, more efficient, newer machine than do so. Yeah,
but it sounds like even those older machines, depending on
how many dishes you have to do, are still better.
(13:14):
There's still save water compared to hand washing. Yeah, and
I will I will admittedly hand wash um like really
big mixing bowls for salad bowls. I'll handwash that stuff
because going back to my pet peeve, that takes up
a rack, uh right, it does, which is kind of inefficient.
And plus also it's it's satisfying to washing them, dry
(13:35):
that off and put it back quickly. Yeah. I kind
of like that. You guys are neat like that too, Yeah, yea.
If you if you have, you should come move in
with us, like you can all right, Um, we'll get
a draw un okay. Um, So if you don't have
a dishwasher, and you're like, well, I'd like to save
(13:55):
energy and water, you jerks, but I don't have a dishwasher. Um,
there are things you can do to save water and energy,
and that is uh if you can manage a two
uh tub sink you know what I'm talking about in
the middle split tub nice, Um, you want to fill
one up with warm soap, you water, let the dishes
(14:17):
soak in that for a while, and then fill up
the other one in clean water and rinse them off
in there and just put them up. Don't run that
water while you're doing it. That is good enough and
that should do the trick. That's the key. And don't
run water while you're standing there brushing your teeth. No,
I I came up with the biggest waste of water
that you can possibly do. It's where you dump ice out,
(14:39):
so you're dumb, you're wasting water to begin with, and
then you run warm water over that to make it
melt fast. Oh no, I've done that before, and I
was like, this is the biggest waste of water you
could possibly do when making That's a great way to
do it. There's a lot of stuff you could do
just starting with the ice, but really try to make
(15:00):
it melt faster for zero reason whatsoever. Then it bothers
you that there's ice in the sink. That's a big
waste of water. I've learned my lesson ethic. Okay, well
is that it? Yeah? I think we admitted some things
that didn't make us proud of ourselves, but we can
all move on to now. Well, thank you to everyone
for listening and short stuff is that stuff you should know?
(15:24):
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Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh and
there's Chuck over there, and this is short stuff and
we're shorten it up stuff person. Yeah, this one is Uh,
it's amazing, especially when you're a listener of the Judge
John Hodgman episode Um from our Old Pal or Old
Pals Jesse Thorn and John hodgment. How many cases come
(00:26):
through and not major cases they do the smaller sort
of just email cases at the end about couples fighting
over dishwashing. Yeah, I can totally see that, because this
is one of those things where you're just like, it's
intuitively correct one way or another. But this is one
of those beautiful and rare things where it's like, no,
(00:47):
the one is demonstrably correct the thing you should be doing,
and even better, it's the thing that you wouldn't think
would be the correct thing to do. It's a beautiful thing. Chuck,
and I'm gonna stop talking vague terms and let's really
drill into this. Yeah, and beyond what we're going to
mainly talk about, which is is it better to hand
wash dishes or use your dishwasher? Uh, the nitpicky how
(01:12):
to load a dishwasher thing is the subject of It's
just sort of one of the most age old arguments
you can have in a marriage, because people come into
the marriage or a relationship or partnership with very strong
ideas on how to wash dishes, how do so how
to load a dishwashers in dispute like should you hang
from the ceiling or lay on the floor? Oh sure?
(01:35):
Like should you do half of a dishwasher load? Do
you load the silverware? Times up or times down? Or
does it even matter times up unless you're like some
sort of deranged criminal. Is it knives up or knives down?
Knives up? Oh? So leave those stabby things just pointing up. Well,
if it's an actual knife, you shouldn't be washing those
in your dishwasher anyway. But I'm talking about like a
(01:56):
dinner knife or a butter knife. Oh no, what do
you mean? You shouldn't be washing the steak knife. You
don't want to run a good knife through a dishwasher, pal,
I don't care what the energy your water savings. This
is because it wears them down. And also usually if
you have a good knife, you have a probably a
knife with a good handle on it, and they're not
usually made to be run through the dishwasher, they start
to crack or if it's would it becomes problematic. And
(02:20):
there's no faster way to doll a knife than to
run it through a dishwasher. Yeah, what does it? I
believe particulate matter, uh, beating it, kind of sand blasting it,
and then also just the water, the effect of the
water over time. These are you don't want to do that.
You don't want to do that that People debate incessantly
(02:41):
in marriages about dishwasher Emily and I go back and
forth about dishwasher stuff all the time because we both
do it a little bit, and it seems like one
of those things in a partnership where one person just
should just be in charge and the other other person
should stay out of it. I see, Yeah, there are
things like that. You mean, I have laundries once. She's like,
(03:02):
I am doing the laundry. Emily won't let me do laundry. Yeah,
but dish washing, we've never really had a problem with. Um,
do you both load it? No? We both hand wash.
Oh no, you don't know, it's true. We both handwashed.
Like I've been researching this and I notice some cass
Gate commercials and was like is that true? And then
(03:23):
that actually prompted me a cass Gate commercial prompted me
to pick this one, and um, it was like like
when I researched it, it it was like, no, the cass
Gate commercial tells the truth, and this is something I
should not be doing anymore, which is handwashing dishes. So
you have a dishwasher and you would still handwash all
your dishes. Yeah, we have a nice dishwasher too, and
how would you still handwash? Well, one one reason why
(03:45):
is we thought that it was it uses less energy, water,
all that stuff, which it turns out is just wrong.
And then the other reason why, as I remember seeing
like the guy who created the hygiene hypothesis or we
talked about his study once where people who eat off
of plates or used utensils that have been run through
(04:06):
the dishwasher had higher incidences of allergies to like food
and other things than people who hand washed because they
were exposed to slightly more germs. So we were hand
washing because it's dirtier. Basically is that is how you
can kind of boil it down. But now I'm kind
of like, man, this is this seems like the wrong
(04:27):
thing to do. Handwashing dishes, and I did it like
all the wrong ways, water running the whole time, the
whole shebang. All right, Well, I think that that actually
turns out to be a set up, and we'll take
a break and we'll come back and even though you
kind of spoiled it, uh, will reveal the real truth
right after this. Alright, Chuck revealed the truth. Well, it
(05:14):
is a big misconception that using a dishwasher, even and
they say you should really load that thing full, but
I have seen statistics that even doing like more half
loads per week is still a lot less water than
hand washing dishes. Yeah. Um, which is a real big surprise.
I think one of the reasons why I didn't understand
(05:35):
this because you and I grew up with dishwashers that
were terrible as far as efficiency and water uses concerned.
But unbeknownst to us, even though I have a pretty
new dishwasher, I'm guessing you probably do too. Um that
they they they have advanced by leaps and bounds in
the last few years and now they're actually like lean
mean energy and water saving machines. They are the Energy
(05:59):
Star program in the United States, the government getting involved
and regulating things across the board. The Energy Star program
has been a massive success, and a certified Energy Star
dishwasher in the US uses less than four gallons of
water per cycle, the whole thing, the whole thing, and
(06:22):
you can go through four gallons of water every two
minutes off your handwashing. Yeah, they have efficiency, high efficiency
faucets now that typically come in and about one and
a half gallons per minute. And I don't think it's
legal to have a faucet more than two and a
half gallons in the United States or two point two
gallons per minute. But even still, like like I did
(06:43):
a little math, and like you were saying, you've seen
before where even if you run half loads multiple times
a week, Um, if you're doing like a quarter of
a load of dishes and you're using all four gallons,
you're still probably using less water than you would to
wash that cord load by hand, because it's probably going
to take longer than two minutes to do all those dishes.
(07:05):
So if you have the water running the whole time,
even running a quarter load is still going to save
more water than if you were doing the dishes by hand. Okay,
but hey, you're not using anything on your power bill.
You're not burning any coal or even using any solar
to use your hands. So it's clearly better to use
your hands and not that energy consuming dishwasher right now
(07:28):
because that hot water. Thank you for sending me up
to look like the smart one here. I appreciate that.
Because the hot water that's coming out of your tap
comes from your hot water heater. Uh. If you're using
a hot water heater, in fact, you're actually using a
lot of energy to heat that water, and it's going
on constantly, whereas a high efficiency or just a regular
new dishwasher um uses kind of targeted uh hot water,
(07:54):
not throughout the whole time. So it's not that water
is not being heated the whole time while you're washing
the dishes. If you use the dishwasher, it is while
you're doing it by hand. That's right. With an energy
star dishwasher, you can use that thing four times a
week and it will only cost you and run up
about a hundred and thirty dollars worth of energy a
(08:15):
year a year. And that's even assuming eleven kill a
watt eleven cents to kill a watt hour I saw,
which is that's all less than average. Yeah, so dishwasher efficiency.
This is where Emily and I really get into most
of our scrapes. It's not times upper, times down, it
is uh my, um, you know, I'm I'm sort of
(08:37):
the family packer. I'm the tetris master. So when I'm
packing a car for a trip, or packing when we've
had to move and stuff like that, she leaves that
stuff to me because I'm really good at like making
the most efficient use of a space, and I carry
that over to the dishwasher. I can tetris that thing.
So it's so full, it's like can barely even hold
(08:59):
the amount of stuff on a rack. And it just
makes me so happy. Whereas Emily will get in there,
she'll be like she'll use the juicer in the morning
and maybe the food processor that you know, these things
have large, sort of multiple components and that's it. You
got like two glasses and then that stuff to run
a dishwasher load. And it drives me crazy because then
(09:20):
the stuff is stacking up in the sink and uh.
I try to be like, honey, you gotta put more
stuff in here, and she's like, no, it's better just
to run up more. You just gotta stay on it. Huh. Well,
So one of the things that popped up to me is,
you know, it's just you, me and Momo and I here.
So we have a limited number of dishes um that
we use and that we even have in some cases
(09:42):
we kind of try to trim it down to whatever
we need, not like you know, we each have one
fork or anything like that, but you know, like the
number of cops and that kind of stuff that we
have hanging around is limited to where we couldn't do
the dishes just once a week, like you just can't.
So that's it's kind of like still run the dishwasher.
(10:03):
No you can't, Yes, of course you can. You come
over anytime you want. That's my dream, dude. If Emily
wouldn't think I was crazy, I would assign each family
member a cup before, a spoon and knife, and a
plate in a bowl, and I would throw everything else
out because we have She'll go through eight water glasses
in a day because she just sits them down and
(10:25):
then goes and gets another one, and it drives me bonkers.
So you're decorating an inspiration is like re education camp. Man.
It makes me crazy, and then kids like you'd be
surprised at how much how many dishes a six year
old will go through it too. Oh yeah, no, you
totally can, especially if you have a lot of dishes
you go through, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, and
(10:46):
then they build up to they just kind of just accumulates. Dude,
We've got like twenty five coffee cups and I don't
drink coffee. It's ridiculously like a cute coffee cups though,
So what are you gonna do deny her her her collection? No,
And I don't actually blame her because that is the
thing that we have the most of too, because you
(11:06):
can get cool stuff and we like our plates. We
have lovely plates that we like. But we also get
into it with the other things in the efficiencies, which
is resisting the urge to pre rense. I'll do a
scrape and throw it in the dishwasher and Emily he's like, no, man,
you gotta rinse that stuff off really good or it's
not going to get clean. And they're saying, not true. No,
(11:27):
Emily is a demon from hell for even suggesting that. Apparently,
I'll tell her that, yeah, like you do not prerense
the dishes, that is Ah, as one of the guys
from the Natural Resources Defense Counsel, I think the senior
scientist his name is Noah Horowitz, says, it is a
complete waste of water and energy, and you're a demon
(11:51):
from hell if you do it. That's what the dishwasher
is for. That's what I always say. But there's another
thing that comes from our upbringing and our being eighties
and seventies kids too, is you That did not used
to be the case. Those things basically had to go
in sparkling clean for them to come out sparkling clean.
And now dishwashers are just that much better, where if
(12:11):
you scrape the stuff off and you put them in there,
they're gonna come out clean. Remember that ad for either
dishwashers or dishwashing detergent where they they baked in frosted
a cake and then put the whole thing with the
plate on it in the dishwasher and ran it and
it came out clean. I don't remember that. One's gross.
It's almost as bad as that lys Al commercial where
(12:31):
the woman uses the raw chicken to wiper counters down
rather than Oh, I haven't seen that either. Oh, it's
tough to watch this one. Was not nearly as bad,
but in the same ballpark for sure. Well, they say,
scrape it, fill it up as good as you can,
don't do the pre rents. And then if you can
(12:51):
afford to upgrade from that that nineteen nineties model that
is using way more energy because you're you know, it's
gonna cost you in the long ground and with your
water bill and with your power bill. So if you
can scrape together the money to upgrade that to a
to a better, more efficient, newer machine than do so. Yeah,
but it sounds like even those older machines, depending on
how many dishes you have to do, are still better.
(13:14):
There's still save water compared to hand washing. Yeah, and
I will I will admittedly hand wash um like really
big mixing bowls for salad bowls. I'll handwash that stuff
because going back to my pet peeve, that takes up
a rack, uh right, it does, which is kind of inefficient.
And plus also it's it's satisfying to washing them, dry
(13:35):
that off and put it back quickly. Yeah. I kind
of like that. You guys are neat like that too, Yeah, yea.
If you if you have, you should come move in
with us, like you can all right, Um, we'll get
a draw un okay. Um, So if you don't have
a dishwasher, and you're like, well, I'd like to save
(13:55):
energy and water, you jerks, but I don't have a dishwasher. Um,
there are things you can do to save water and energy,
and that is uh if you can manage a two
uh tub sink you know what I'm talking about in
the middle split tub nice, Um, you want to fill
one up with warm soap, you water, let the dishes
(14:17):
soak in that for a while, and then fill up
the other one in clean water and rinse them off
in there and just put them up. Don't run that
water while you're doing it. That is good enough and
that should do the trick. That's the key. And don't
run water while you're standing there brushing your teeth. No,
I I came up with the biggest waste of water
that you can possibly do. It's where you dump ice out,
(14:39):
so you're dumb, you're wasting water to begin with, and
then you run warm water over that to make it
melt fast. Oh no, I've done that before, and I
was like, this is the biggest waste of water you
could possibly do when making That's a great way to
do it. There's a lot of stuff you could do
just starting with the ice, but really try to make
(15:00):
it melt faster for zero reason whatsoever. Then it bothers
you that there's ice in the sink. That's a big
waste of water. I've learned my lesson ethic. Okay, well
is that it? Yeah? I think we admitted some things
that didn't make us proud of ourselves, but we can
all move on to now. Well, thank you to everyone
for listening and short stuff is that stuff you should know?
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