Over the Next Hill Fitness
Welcome! We all know, as we age, it’s harder to put ourselves first and get in enough fitness, flexibility, and nutrition. Maybe you’re new to formatted exercise, maybe we need to push to the next level or set some goals. Perhaps you’ve always wanted to run a 5K, a marathon, or even an ULTRA marathon. This podcast is designed to get you moving and headed towards those goals. You’ll have opportunities for general coaching during each episode or you may contact me for personal coaching afterward. Are you ready to get over this next hill in life? Let’s get started.
Episodes
Jeff Galloway didn’t just coach runners, he quietly rewired what many of us believe “real running” is supposed to look like. We’re replaying a conversation recorded in 2023 to honor his impact and to put his most useful ideas back in your ears: run walk run, smarter pacing, fewer injuries, and a better finish when everyone else is falling apart.
Jeff shares how he found running as an overweight kid, how com...
A surgeon once told Lionel Pailloncy to give up running after back surgery. Years later, he’s not only running again, he’s finished the original six World Marathon Majors and just took 20 minutes off his marathon PR in Tokyo. From Paris to Boston and beyond, Lionel’s story isn’t about being the fastest, it’s about refusing to let one diagnosis or one hard year define what’s possible.
We talk about the real...
Nineteen marathons sounds glamorous until you hear what it really takes: 5 a.m. runs before work, hard conversations with yourself at mile 20, and the patience to chase a goal for years. Nicole Gray joins us fresh off Tokyo Marathon to unpack how she went from a struggling first full marathon to earning her Abbott World Marathon Majors Six Star medal and lining up for Boston again.
We get specific about wh...
Running can feel like a club you’re not invited to unless you’re fast, thin, or fearless. That’s why this conversation with coach Lisa Pozzoni landed so hard for me. Lisa started running as an adult, built confidence through personal training and better nutrition, and eventually fell in love with trail running and ultrarunning. Her perspective is refreshingly practical: most of us are not chasing podiums, we’re chas...
The first climb always humbles you—and sometimes it shows you who you can become. We sit down with Denise Smith and Jana McCarron to unpack how two friends stretched from casual runs to gritty trail miles, including a six-hour loop event with 1,600 feet of gain per lap that rewired their sense of “hard.” Denise shares how a post-college fitness push grew into 10Ks, triathlons, and now a half marathon goal, while Jan...
A grade school jab said he’d never be an athlete. A lunch bet said otherwise. Joe Emus joins us to share how finishing dead last at the Toronto Zoo race sparked a lifetime of running—seven Bostons, five World Marathon Majors, and more than a thousand races fueled by community and curiosity. His secret isn’t a shoe or a split; it’s choosing joy over judgment and people over pace.
We dig into the moments that...
What actually happens between mile 48 and mile 100, when your brain is tired, your stomach is bored of sugar, and the trail turns to cambered sand and black mud? We sat down with sisters Lyndsi and Kendell to unpack their first 100 miler at the Wolverine 100—how they trained, why they split mid-race, and the small choices that kept them moving when comfort vanished.
We trace the leap from “maybe I could” to...
Mud, rain, and a first-ever DNF set the stage for a comeback story packed with practical wisdom. I sit down with ultrarunner Andy Chaffee to retrace how a soaked 75-mile stop at Indiana Trail 100 became the catalyst for smarter fueling, better decisions, and two confident 100-mile finishes. From childhood races and college running to post-grad burnout and re-entry through Ironman, Andy explains what drew him to ultr...
A quiet decision on an elliptical becomes a marathon finish and a night spent pacing through rough trails and stranger-than-dreams moments. We sit down with Cheryl to unpack how a three-year journey, a steady base, and a simple run-walk plan turned doubt into durable progress—and why a 5:02 felt like proof, not luck. From her first 5K to crewing and pacing a 100-miler, she shares the habits that stuck: saying goals ...
What turns a hard “never” into 26.2 miles? For Karen Goudy, it was a second chance at running, a training partner who wouldn’t quit, and a plan that flexed with real life. We talk through the whole arc—from misdiagnosis and time off to crossing a warm, humid finish line in Toronto—with the practical details most runners wish they knew sooner.
We map out the training backbone that worked: a Hal Higdon marath...
A Facebook group started after a post-marathon lull turned into a global home for older women who run—and the stories behind it will make you lace up. We sit down with Sherry, founder of Old Ladies Running, along with Erin and Diane, to explore how a simple idea grew into nearly 18,000 members who celebrate first miles, comeback races, and everything in between. The heart of it isn’t PRs; it’s the culture: questions...
What if your body isn’t underperforming… it’s protecting you? We sit down with Renee McGregor, renowned sports and clinical dietitian, to unpack Relative Energy Deficiency in sport and why so many runners and active people feel flat, injured, or anxious despite training harder than ever. Renee explains how the body prioritizes movement when fuel is low and quietly turns down hormones, bone health, digestion, and imm...
Forget the anti-aging hype—let’s talk about getting strong enough to live the life you want. Coach and author Heike Yates joins us to unpack what midlife really means, why it isn’t a number, and how to trade comparison and guilt for confidence and capacity. We go deep on the mindset shifts that matter, the workouts that keep you independent, and the practical tools that help you reset without starting over.
What if your training plan wasn’t just about miles, but the mindset that keeps you steady when life tilts? Jamee joins us to share how running became the backbone of nine years of sobriety, a pressure valve for anxiety, and the bridge back to endurance after three kids. From a fearless first half marathon run too fast and unfueled to a deliberate, coached build for Chicago, her story shows how structure, community, ...
What if one friend’s “we could train” turned into a new life, a new community, and a marathon that needs a passport? Kathy joins us to share how a reluctant walker became a purpose-led runner who lost over 100 pounds, found her pace in the back-of-the-pack party, and discovered a mission bigger than finish times: raising funds so people with cancer can pay their bills through Gardner’s House.
We trace Kathy...
What happens when a violinist with zero athletic experience decides to see if she can run a single mile? For Ashley Raines, it sparked a transformation that defied all expectations—including her own.
Ashley joins us to share her captivating journey from complete non-athlete to endurance sports competitor. Just a few years ago, she was the person who joked, "If you see me running, someone's chasing...
What happens when you decide to take up running at 50 years old? Patricia Gonzalez never thought she'd live long enough to see her half-century birthday, but when she did, she made a remarkable decision that would transform her relationship with her body and herself.
Against the backdrop of a divorce and having recently quit smoking, Patricia laced up her running shoes for the first time. "I wante...
What does it take to run 189 marathons across all seven continents and every U.S. state? Meet Sheilagh Galinsky, who at 80 years young, shares her extraordinary athletic journey that began at age 45 when a friend's marathon medal sparked her curiosity.
Sheila takes us through her remarkable running adventures—from navigating glaciers and battling katabatic winds in Antarctica to running past alligators...
At 58 years old and 250 pounds, Deb Bahr faced a pivotal moment. Concerned about her future health and longevity, she made a decision that would transform her life: she would become a triathlete despite not having run since her 20s, biked since childhood, or properly swam before.
Deb's remarkable journey unfolds as she shares how she taught herself three disciplines from scratch through books, YouTube ...
Imagine standing at the starting line of your first marathon, rain pouring down, wondering if your months of training will pay off. Now imagine sharing that journey with your family across three generations.
In this deeply personal episode, I bring you into the heart of my family's running journey. From my grandsons' joyful recounting of their first one-mile race in the pouring rain to my son Char...
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