042924 Dr Currie Myers

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you back to a conversation I hadwith my friend Duke Rumley on Friday.
You can hear that at Jimmy Lakeydot com. He's the founder of an
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to some of their upcoming events,talked about FENTONYL Awareness Day FENTONYL Awareness that
we need to have just we havea real drug problem and the accident of
the rate of accidental drug overdoses inAmerica is really bad right now. A

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lot of it is coming some drugsthat are happening coming across our border,
fent and all of course is anissue, and I want to bring this
topic of conversation first and foremost.Most Americans look at the poll numbers that
they say that our border is areal problem in this real issue. To
them, it's a serious issue andwe got to figure out the flow of

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drugs into America. It's going tobe a topic of the election coming up.
Doctor Curry Myers, retired sheriff ofJohnson City, Kansas, wrote an
op ed piece about Operation snow Capand the current drug problems that we have
flowing into America. Doctor Curry Myerson the Hotline, Doctor Curry, welcome

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back to the program, Doctor Myers, always a pleasure to be on.
Thank you so much. You're anapplied criminologist, academician, author, consultant,
retired sheriff, and you study thenumbers of just crimes and things that
are happening in America. How badis this drug problem that we have going
on? And where is this wherethese drugs coming from? And we'll get

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into what operations no CAAP is.Well, we're killing somewhere in the neighborhood
of one hundred and thirty thousand Americansa year just from fentanyl overdesk alone.
And then we have also a hugexylazine problem with which is it's also known
on the street as trenk. Allof this is coming from source locations in

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China. The Chinese government is backingit, is involved in it, and
they're using the Mexican drug trafficking routesto send fentanyl and xylazine in particular into
the United States. That's one.The second source is coming directly from China,
coming into the country using technology,so you can get on a website

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and you'll be able to order fentanyland xylazine have it directly shift to you.
So there is a significant increase inthe amount of cyber drug that is
being now supplied into the United States. So I make this argument in my
recent substack that we need to goback to focused deterrence when it comes to

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these kinds of drugs, and quitefrankly, focus to terrences. It's something
that's been employed in the past tosuccess. It doesn't stop. Of course,
the addictions, there has to bea joint effort with the addiction side.
But in particular, there was acocaine suppression program called Operation Snowcap that

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was done in the late eighties andearly nineties in response to the crack cocaine
epidemic. That I think we coulduse that as a model, that we'd
have to add some extra things thatand I list those things in my recent
perspective, you know, so thevoice of doctor Curry Myers, retired sheriff
of Johnson's City, Kansas, andhe wrote about Operation Snowcap and it was

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designed by the Drug Enforcement Administration tocombat the international traffick and give drugs,
particularly cocaine, heroin, and marijuana, and launched in the eighties, continued
into the nineties and even beyond whathappened to things like Operation Snowcap And do
we have anything that has replaced thesethings and that our Drug enforcement agency is

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working with or did it just disappear? It disappeared as a practical matter.
It lasted through the nineties and startedto dissipate in the two thousand. One
reason was some of the success thatoccurred in Operation Snowcap is where you had
actually DEA agents embedded with government witharmies that were a different company countries Mexico,

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Columbia, Bolivia, Peru. Therewas all agents that were embedded and
involved in focused deterrence and disruption ofcocaine routes through areas that we're growing cocaine,
in particular in the mountainous reasons ofthose areas, and it proved to
be extremely successful. The issue withfentanyl and xylazine is a synthetic, so

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it has any route of administration.It's far more dangerous than any drugs that
we have out there. I've alwaysmaybe argument that synthetic drugs are the future.
They can be manipulated very easily toinclude additional increases in the toxicity,
and quite frankly, we're fentanyl isjust not a drug, but it's a

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poison and it can be used asa poison, and we have seen it
used as a poison before. Russianagents have used it as a poison against
other people and assassinations, and that'sone of the reasons that we're seeing such
an increase in overdose is that endsup being a poison. So this is
not only a drug now, butit's become a clear and present danger to

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the United States with respect to thepoisoning of our people. And then of
course it's been involved now in theblack market because it's cheap and it gives
people a high. So you seea lot of bundling of fentanyl in things
that you wouldn't normally see. Soyou may be taking a drug that you've

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purchased aid ilicitly, or maybe youdon't even know that's illicit, maybe somebody
gave it to you and said it'sa painkiller. You may in fact be
taking something that's laced with fentanyl orxylazine and having an overdose just based on
something that you're taking from somebody whogave it to you as a friend.
And that's occurred often in the UnitedStates. A voice of doctor Curry Myers

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will give you a substack here injust a moment, doctor Myers. We
can Obviously there's been a lot ofblame or some blame on China. I'm
not sure much accountability for the productionin routing some of their fentanyl products into
America. But I've kind of focuseda little bit closer to our southern border.
Why is it that the Nation ofMexico can get a hold of these

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drug cartels. In my estimation,I don't see Mexico doing much of anything.
So we need an operation like OperationSnowcap toves solving ourselves. But isn't
a real problem these cartels and theMexican government's lack of willingness to confront them.
That's exactly correct, and it's becausewe have not given focus deterrence to

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them. So focused deterrence is ananswer that can occur. It can be
an answer to the individual because offear of being arrested, but focus deterrence
can be impacted towards a country.So by having legislative and regulatory measures put
in place, sanctions that are putin place during the Trump years, we

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did do sanctions on China and wedid sanctions on Mexico. Those are the
big stick policies that can hold thesebad acting countries in check and it makes
them somebody that's willing to work withus if because from an economic pressure point
of view, they don't want tohave those issues. So the first thing

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that you have to do in anykind of Operation Snowcap maneuver is to ensure
that you have legislative and regulatory measuresthat actually impact the country that you're trying
to get to stop producing and makingthings that are bad for this country,
and you know that includes the blackmarket activities. We have a huge number

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of things that are shipped into thiscountry, and not just drugs, but
we also have a lot. Youknow, you can virtually purchase anything you
want via the black market if youdon't have standards put into place ahead of
time. With these countries, DoctorMyers, we're going to run short on
time. If folks want to readmore about what you written about reinstituting some

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form of Operation Snowcap, it's onyour substack. Where do they find you
and where do they find your work? I'm on substack at doctor Curry Meyers
dot substack dot com. I havea new book out today called The Advent
of Feralman, and I also talkabout drugs, but the new book focuses
on the lack of faith family informationas causal reasons I and I encourage people

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to join and to view my workbecause you're going to see a lot of
information on criminal justice and law enforcementissues that you might not already see.
So feel free to visit that amuscle on X at doctor Curry Myers so
you can join me there, doctorCurrymeyers dot substack dot com. And if

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folks want to find you there,I'm sure they'll find links to the new
book. But what is the titleof the new book again? The Advent
of Feral Man? You got it, doctor Myers. Always a pleasure,
Thanks for hopping on the program.America's Criminologist dot or Curry Myers on the
program, and it's always good totalk to him. I gave him that
title, America's Criminologist, retired sheriff. Real smart fella. Go look out

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a substack, doctor Curry Meyers dotsubstack dot com, and he's got a
new book out as of today.Everybody stand by Lakey on the radio.
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