050824 Daniel Greenfield

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the show, and let's do alittle lesson in history. Those said don't
learn from history, and it's beensaid or deemed to repeat it. Daniel

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greenfelle Field is my next guest,and he has he's he's been driving interest
in part of the the Sorry,my computer is glitching in front of me
and I'm I'm struggling here to pullup the notes here that I have on
the book way. Daniel Greenfield ismy guest. I'll give you his bio
here in just a second. He'sheld long enough domestic enemies of Founding Fathers

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fight against the left on the hotlinewith my broken computer. Now, Daniel
Greenfield, how are you, sir, good? How are you very well?
Very well? I just said,those that are not students of history,
don't learn from history, will bedeemed or repeat it. We think
of our history as in that withthe day we were born until the current

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time and yesterday, that's our history. But you kind of talk about in
the book that our founding fathers dealtwith the American left even back in the
founding days of America. What we'refighting now is not anything new under the
sun. We just have to learnfrom history. I'll let you explain.
Indeed, people look around, theysee the insanity, to see the rise

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of the left, and they thinkthis is a new problem, more as
a problem that began when they werekids the begin the sixties, and maybe
began in their parents' time. Butno, this is a problem that we've
been facing from the very beginning ofAmerica's history, at a two hundred plus
year war of the left against America. The thing is, our founding fathers
did actually have to deal with theseproblems. America is still here after all

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this time, and that should giveus some hope. Talk about how the
American left for this craziness manifested ways. You know, we think that we
think of the Party of Alexandria CassioCortes Elanomar. Joe Biden has said,
do we think of it's something different? But you say that left manifested itself
also in the founding of our countryin the early days. Give us an

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example. One of the more stunningmoments, and I have this in chapter
three, is when the man who'sknown as the father of British socialism actually
the wivers of speech to Congress.He then begins to set up communes in
the country where they have tried toabolish private property, they tried to abolish

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marriage and religion, and this ishappening in the eighteen twenties. The people
who have in these communes, bythe way, are known as communists,
which is what we get to termfrom we were dealing with these problems way
back. George Washington is struggling withthe left because the left back then wants
to support the French Revolution. Theywant to bring the French Revolution to America.
They talk about bringing the guillotine toAmerica and using it on George Washington.

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So it is here very early onnow in the book. As a
student of history myself, I neverhad thought of it to this perspective.
But you said, basically, GeorgeWashington with some of the things you just
mentioned, he was a victim offake news. Back in his day,
it wasn't twenty four hour cable service, but fake news were spreading news rumors
and innu windows out there. Absolutely. You know, in America, newspapers

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did not always look like the waythey do now, and this was a
critical era. You had European radicalscoming in Americans learning from them, and
they began setting up more European stylepapers that very much were left wing,
and that set out to demoledge anddestroy the reputation of people they were opposed
to. George Washington was a primarytarget because George usha would not get on

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board with the French Revolution. Andin response, actually Alexander Hamilton, who
was very close to Washington, setup a newspaper called today the New York
Post. So the New York Post, which exposed Hunter Biden aptop scandal,
has actually been around since those daysand has been fighting the left. Now
we think again, we think ofhistory in a very couple of generations,

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a couple of decades, but wethink of communism, the old Soviet Union
and the Cold War era. Butyou write in the book There's something that
a lot of folks may not beaware of is that the Communists set up
communes. And you alluded to thisa moment ago, but as far back
in the eighteen twenties. But thesecommunes were doing something that the American left

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still tries to do today, abolishingthe institution of marriages. They're getting rid
of private property. I mean,back to the eighteen twenties, most people
didn't know that people were thinking thatway. Then they did not. And
this is and of those communes,yes, they fall apart most communis and
the fall part, but the peoplebehind those communes went into general society.

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And this was for a part ofthe idea of having the abolition of the
family comes from. They were tryingto abolish the family. Just don't have
parents and children, craise the childrenin common. They wanted to inject those
ideas into what would become the publicschool system, which is an idea that
also came out of these communes.Most people don't know that you also write

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it. But by the way,Daniel Greenfield is my guest. He's written
a new book called Domestic Enemies,and I would recommend you read it if
you're a student of history or wantto be a student of history, because
those who don't learn from it aredestined and damned to report or repeat it.
We don't want that. You alsoneed to write something in the book
that a lot of folks may notbe aware of, is that the racial
tension or the racial divide has beenkind of a wedge issue that the people

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have used in America to set usoff course oftentimes. And it goes back
to the days of the Civil War. Now people say, well, civil
War, that was about the slavery, and that was about the free slaves.
But actually race riots that happened inAmerica were not. Well, let's
just say there was somebody behind those. I'll let you explain what happened,

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because race has always been a wedgethat the American left, as you put
it, will try to use againstit to divide the country. I was
when I was writing this back intwenty twenty. You of course said massive
race riots, and those were blackon white more or less. And back
in the day when in chapter sixI described the draft rights, which were
massive, there were on a muchlarger scale than even these riots that we

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had in twenty twenty, and thosewere white and black, and both sets
were set up by the Democratic Partyto influence a presidential election. You know
the fun things about the dilm riots, They always seem to happen in an
election year. Apparently nobody ever getsshot in an awful election year. And
the Civil War was the same.Really, it was the beginning of those
tactics where they were executing massive racerights in order to influence the presidential elections.

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It doesn't imagine them if their racerights are black on white or white
on black. The point is toexpose them to implement those rights in order
to uphand the political system. It'sthe outcome that they care about, not
which group hates which group the West. Mister Daniel Greenfield, his latest book
is called Domestic Enemies, and Iwant to dive in here that let's learn

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from history. These are the tacticsthat have been used for a couple of
hundred years. Here, how didour founding fathers deal with these threats that
were maybe trying to stop the Constitution'sratification or stop the foundation of this great
country. How did our founders dealwith and how did Abraham Lincoln deal with
these this fake news in this Americanleft tactic well, they dealt with it

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in different ways. George Washington actuallybecomes the first and only president as far
as I know of, actually troopsin the field. When a leftist organization
actually sets up one of these socalled uprisings, others will implement Varius was.
There's the Alien and Tedition Acts,which try to deal with the influx
of foreign nations, because there areforeign nations behind a lot of this,

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including, by the way, thecreation of the Democratic Party. Back in
the day, you have emissaries ofthe French Revolution. They come in,
they try to set up what iscalled the French Party political movement that is
going to back the French Revolution,which is the radical up and they set
up little organizations that they call democraticsocieties. These democratic societies of entry influence
will becomes the Democratic Republican Party,and the Republican Party that refers to the

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people who are more liberal but moderateand the Democrat power of person to the
people who are radicals and want somethingmore. It's the French Revolution. This
is really where the Democratic Party nameof entry comes from. In the book,
you mentioned the names of people likeWashington, Hamilton, even Davy Crockett.
David Crockett Abraham Lincoln and Aaron Burr. You've got some pretty historic figures.

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You know, we talked about someWashington Lincoln, We've talked about the
founding of the country. But let'sgo back to the expansion. Wesh.
You got Davy Crockett in the bookand said that he was also in this
struggle against the what we call theAmerican left. Help us understand Davy Crockett's
involvement here. Well, he triesto change politics back East from within,

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and he fails. He rails againstthe corruption of an organization known as Tammany
Hall, which is the original urbanpolitical machine set up by Aaron Burr to
control politics for the Democratic Party.And at one point Davy Crockett actually goes
to the Five Points, which isa horristic club controlled by Tammany Hall,
and he says that he'd rather gofight Indians than fight over the gang members

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to control politics back then, becausehow they influenced collections was pretty simple.
You could vote however you want it, but the end of the day that
Haamiy Hall Dougs would come down,they would make sure that the only ballots
I got counted were the ballots forthe Democrats. And for their specific kind
of Democrats, and you know,anybody else would have to fight them and
they would probably lose. So DavyRocket walks away from this thing. I'd

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rather go out west. They'd rathergo fight Indians than fight these people.
Yeah, we have. If youask a lot of folks today, just
got a casual conversation around the bar. People would talk about, I'm not
sure that my vote counts. I'mnot sure that it really matters that I
vote. Maybe they're rigging the electionall along. Then you got people very
concerned about like wokeism. Are theseall new issues in America? Is there

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anything new under the sun that maybeis just hitting our generation? Was wokeism?
Dei? And even election rigging?Was that part of the struggle even
in the early days of America.No, The funny thing about woke is
this is just another name that theyleft used to use for themselves. Then
when conservatives began using the name andmaking it sound terrible, you really did

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not see anybody on the left callingthemselves woke anymore. They dumped it.
They we brand themselves every few decades. You know, they're progressive, they're
interested in social justice. All thesenames keep changing the core of this is
the last and the Left has beenaround for a long time, as they
discussed in Domestic Enemies, and whatthe Luve believe at its core is that
the system as it is needs tobe completely overthrown. It needs to be

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replaced with a system that is oftheir design in order to create u topiate,
perfect world. They will use differentfronts, and they're starting to phase
out DEI by the way, youmentioned DEI. They're now trying to call
it different things. They're testing ideyou know, because seemingly having a name
associated with an explosive device is abetter idea. They're always going to change
the name when it becomes unpopular,but the core of it remains the same,

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as idea that government should be incharge of all of us and that
if they get that kind of power, they can make the world a perfect
place. No matter how many timesthe sales and it fails from century to
century, they still double down onit. Daniel Greenfield is my guest a
couple more moments together investigators, journalists, columnists with strong interest in historical origins,

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and also you might have followed himat the Hordes David Hord's Freedom Center
as well, where he is stillan journalism fellow at the Horowitz Center.
I guess the question we have tonow is learn from our history and not
feel like we're in this battle aloneor the first ones to ever pioneer this
fight against the American Left. So, Daniel Greenfield, what should we be

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learning from our founders and our forefathersabout this fight against these domestic enemies that
try to use surp and undermine thefoundation of this great country. What should
we be learning and implementing in twentytwenty four. Two things. First of
all, as I mentioned earlier,the founding fathers were pretty forceful about taking

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on the Less. In some casesthey were willing to use force in the
field. They did not shy awayfrom passing laws and regulations meant to stop
the LESS from conducting its abuses.Too many contemporary Republicans are very afraid,
their gun shy. They still thinkthat things can be worked out. So
Left has no such scruples or somepunctions, and we need to remember that.
The second thing is this conflict hasbeen around for a long time,

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and it actually comes in phases.People feel we're at the end of history.
There's no way out. The realityis the Left kind of surges and
the pulls back. There's a reactionin the American people get disgusted with it.
We've seen this even in more recenthistory. The Left never actually goes
all the way in American history becauseeventually the American people turn on it.
And that doesn't mean we should notbe doing anything. We should just fit
back and let history take So wewe should remember that the Left does self

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distrust from generation to generations. DomesticEnemies is the name of the book,
and this is by Daniel Greenfield.One more quick question for you. Have
often heard it said that somebody wouldsay if our founders of George Washington,
if Thomas Jefferson came and saw whatwas happening in America today, they would
be horrified. I hear you sayingthat maybe they wouldn't be horrified. Yeah,
they'd be horrified. Maybe they areshocked that we have televisions and cars

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and modern technology, but the overallunderlying battles that we're fighting. Would you
say that they wouldn't be as shockedas we think they might be. No,
we think that we invented every sayingwe invented the worst kinds of the
bauchery. We invented the worst kindof scandals. No, but they were
living through the French Revolution. TheFrench Revolution at one point abolished religion.

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They are trying to eliminate the calendar, start history completely from year zero,
and the left wants to bring allthat to America. Back then, we're
on the verge of an actual civilwar back then, much more so than
today, with states actually collecting weaponsand prepared to dispute a contested presidential election
by actually putting troops in the field. That's much worse than anything we're dealing

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with today. The name of thebook, Daniel Greenfield, domestic enemies,
the founding fathers fight against the Left. I like what you said there,
mister Greenfield. We think we inventedeverything, but instead we can learn from
those that have already been through becausein this situation, there's nothing new under
the sun. Daniel Greenfield, congratulationson the book. If folks want to

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buy an Amazon, Barnes and Noble, I'm guessing. And do you have
a website you'd like to talk about, Well, you can find my work
Daniel greinto dot org or front pagemag dot com, frontpagemag dot com or
Daniel Greenfield dot Organ Again. Thename of the book, my friends,
It's called Domestic Enemies. It isa lesson in history that I think is
so key for all of you andall of us to learn about our founding

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