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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good to have you here. Jimmy is my name, pleasured please,
and I'm thrilled to be here. The first day of
fall happened over the weekend, and it feels kind of
luck fall. This morning, I had to put a little
jacket on. I still got my short pants on. I
don't give those up till January, so I like the
short pants. You know it's radio, even if I was
(00:21):
on television. I'm under the desk. You don't see my legs.
A lot of folks want to see these legs, let
me believe, believe me, but you don't see them. If
you want to, though, I should get an OnlyFans Paige
not I'm joking. That is just I do not plan
to get one of those, but I don't know it
does pay right, baby, we shall all right. Good to
(00:41):
have you here. If you're new to the program, my
name is Jimmy Jimmy Lakey. You can catch me at
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(01:03):
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my name. You get the idea. Jimmy Lakey at iHeartMedia
dot com. All right, let me welcome into the program.
Friend of the show. You might know him from previous
interviews and some great books and also his website ge Hotwatch.
(01:24):
Mister Robert Spencer's got a brand new book we'll talk about.
But Robert, welcome back to the show. So it's been
a while.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Hey, always good to talk to you. Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
How you doing doing very very well. Good to hear
your voice. And I want to talk about your brand
new book. But I'm sitting here looking at the television screen.
Hundreds of Tesbolaw targets are being struck by Israel, these
terrorist types that are Hesbelaw. And how does that affect
(01:51):
the United States of America If any of these people
we keep hearing about our southern border being porous, we
know that they've been trying to get into Israel, and
they've gone into Israel and some bad things. Back last October.
Talk about the impact of these terrorist groups and why
they need to be dealt with.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, I'll give you one example, Jimmy. Remember Ibrahim Akil.
Ibrahim Kiel is the Hisbala commander who Israel took out
in a targeted strike a few days ago. And everybody
has been all upset in the un IS condemning Israel
and so on. But the fact is that Ibrahim Mkiel
was a seriously bad actor. He was responsible for the
(02:29):
bombing of the US Marine barracks in Beirut back in
nineteen eighty three, killing two hundred and forty one US Marines,
and he's been involved in other terrorist attacks since then.
He was on the wanted list for the United States
of America. And so Israel is actually doing a service
to the United States by taking out people who want
(02:49):
to hit US as much as they want to hit Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The Voice of Robert Spencer has got a new book
out called Mohammed, a Critical Biography, and let's kind of
dive at to the root of what these radical folks
are doing. They say they're inspired by their prophet, and
you've written a book about it. First of all, I'm
sure it's not well received by some, but talk about
the book Muhammad, a critical biography.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, you're absolutely right, Jimmy. There's this guy in Pakistan
and he's pretty talented with the photoshop. He keeps sending
me pictures of myself beheaded and things like that and
telling me that this book better not come out or
he's or I'm going to get it. But it's come
out now, so well, we'll just have to see what happens.
But in any case, it does tell the truth about
(03:35):
what Mohammad said and did according to the Islamic teachings.
Makes it very clear that the earliest traditions show that
Muhammad did all these things that we see modern day
terrorists doing. They're just imitating him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's we hear this phrase, and I know you get
asked this question a lot. We hear that there's the
radicals and then there's the peaceful, and it's a religion
of peace. And it goes back the days after nine
to eleven when the Bush administration kind of sold that
to us. Help us understand the difference between some of
these folks that are doing terrorist acts and some folks
(04:11):
that are quote from the religion of peace. Is somebody
misinterpreting this thing?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, yeah, but unfortunately it's not the terrorists, and it's
not really a matter of misinterpretation either, it's just a
matter of not wanting to follow through on the clear meaning.
There are plenty of Muslims who are not terrorists, who
are never going to be terrorists, who are perfectly happy
to live in the United States at peace with their neighbors,
(04:37):
and so we can all be glad of that. But
the fact is that the terrorists can and do point
to teachings of the Qur'an and the example of Muhammad
that justify the kinds of things that they're doing. So
we talk about radicals, the radicals are actually mainstream and
are just doing what Islam teaches, and the so called
(04:59):
modern are people who are just kind of pretending for
the most part that those teachings don't exist and living
their lives in other ways. You know. Well, in Christianity,
of course, there are a lot of people who call
themselves Christians and they don't act upon Christianity, and so
that's what those people are like in Islam.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The voice of Robert Spencer. His latest book is called Muhammad,
a Critical Biography. Robert take us back to the real
history of Muhammad we know him or we've heard of
the name, and it's basically based on the Koran and
the writings of Muhammad. Obviously there was a beginning, there
(05:38):
was a start, there was a birthday. What do we
know about the early days before he became quote the prophet.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, the funny thing about it is that when we
go back, there isn't much there that the more I
looked into the earliest Islamic texts about Muhammad's life, the
less there is to see. And it does seem as
if they are more missing legends than there are actual
historical records. And so it's very important for us to
(06:08):
know what the myths and legends say because Muslims believe
them and act on them. But when you're talking about
the historical value of it, it's very very low, if
there's any at all.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And so Ma, yeah, no, I was going to say,
that's interesting because even if you study the life of
Jesus and you don't believe he was the Messiah, the
Son of God, all this suff you you don't believe
that there are still historical evidence in it. There was
a man who lived in that region who was crucified
around the age of thirty three. I mean, there's historical
evidence that shows that this guy existed. Whether he was
(06:40):
who he said he was or whether you believe that,
it doesn't matter. But there was this person, and there
were these followers, and there was this movement that developed
from him, and you're seeing that same type of evidence
is not there regarding Muhammad.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's right, Jimmy, That's exactly it. It's kind of wild
really when you into it, because what you're saying is
absolutely true that when you look at the years from
the thirties of the first century when Jesus lived, and
go to this for sixty years to the nineties, you
have churches established all over, people having the New Testament
(07:19):
and records of Jesus, you have non Christians talking about
Jesus and so on. Now you take the exact period
in Islam from the six thirties when Muhammad is supposed
to have died, to the six nineties, and there's nothing
about him. There are a couple of mentions of the name,
but it might be just a title, and there's no
mention of Islam or the Qur'an. Even while the Arabs
(07:40):
are conquering the Middle East and North Africa and Persia
and this huge expanse of territory, and they never mentioned
that they happen to have this new religion, a new
Holy Book, and new prophet.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That's fascinating. When did this, I guess, the announcement of
this new prophet in this new Holy book? Then when
did it come around? And what was the gid being
waged in the name of before they announced this new prophet.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It was being waged in the name of a radical
monotheism that was saying that we are the religion of Abraham.
But that's about as specific as it got. And they
were very hostile to Christianity. We have records of the
invasion of Jerusalem and the conquest of Jerusalem and the
Christian leader of Jerusalem, the Phronius, lamenting the invasion, but
(08:25):
even he doesn't show any awareness that these people have
this new religion or the Qur'an or Mohammed. We only
start hearing about Mohammad much later in the sixth nineties,
and especially even one hundred years after that, in the
late seven hundreds and the early eight hundreds. That's when
all the records of Mohammed date from. And so you're
talking about as much as two hundred years after he's
(08:48):
supposed to have died. That would be like if we
are right now in twenty twenty four and the first
biography of Thomas Jefferson was just published.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, the voice of Robert Spencer, Robert you in the book.
This fascinating, this two hundred year gap before suddenly we
found out this person has lived. We actually missed out
on it. He's lived, and here's the writings of him.
And by the way, we've been holding these for two
hundred years. Nobody knows why. But you didn't put in
the book that some of the stories about the name
(09:21):
or misconstrued that even the name Mohammed wasn't the name
originally used to describe this person.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's right, Jimmy. See that just shows how this is
not historical material, because if you have a story about
a guy named Mohammad that actually lived, then that's what
you would be calling him. But there are actually records
in the Islamic traditions. This is not enemy writing. This
is Muslim's writing saying, well, he was originally named Kutam
(09:51):
and later became known as Mohammed, and this is an
indication probably that there were stories of some guy named
Kuto who's been lost to history, whose stories were included
in the Mohammad legend as it was being put together.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Robert Spencer my guest, Robert, before we break up here
in this interview, I want to make sure people know
how to buy the book. But somebody may listening going
you've received threats from Pakistan. I know previously you've had
a poisoning incident. People don't like your writing, but you
write it. I mean, you're just writing the facts. You're
doing the research or writing the facts. But somebody may say, Robert,
(10:28):
why would you write this book knowing that it's not
going to be well received and there's people out there
that would do you harm. What motivates Robert Spencer to
continue to I wouldn't say pick a five, but what
motivates Robert Spencer to continue the journey of educating people?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, Jimmy, you know, when there's something that's the right
thing to do, then it's worth doing, even if there's risk.
But I think that it's important for people to know
that Muhammad is more of a construct of politicians than
an actual his historical figure, and that he said and
did these things that are inspiring terrorists. So that there
will be action to stop that and limit the influence
(11:08):
that these stories have, and so I think that's worth doing.
It's not as if I'm the to live forever if I.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Don't do it again. The voice of Robert Spencer. Let's
say that I'm still stuck on this thing that you
can find historical, secular evidence of the life and times
of Jesus. Whether or not you believe what he said
that that's your opinion, but there's a historical evidence, and
you went back and there's just nothing there. And why
(11:36):
do you think that is? I mean it, I'm guessing
there was a person that maybe the myth of the
legend grew over time, or did it just take a
while to figure it all out.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think it's possible that there was a person, but
there may have been nobody at all. It may have
been that the whole thing was invented. But it is possible,
as you say, that there was some guy that these
legends got attached to. But in any case, what seems
to have happened was that you had this huge empire
that the Arabs got put together, and in those days
(12:06):
there weren't parliaments and constitutions of the kind that we
have today. Empires were held together by a common religion.
So the Arabs then created this religion out of pre
existing material that came from Christianity and Judaism, and they
formed this new religion to hold their empire together. And
because they were warriors, they made it warlike, aggressive, expansionist,
(12:30):
and so on, in order to make sure that it
would be preserved and that it would grow.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Is in their history and in the history that you
find out about the history of Muhammad is their reference
to what those of us who follow the Bible knows,
Abraham choosing Isaac and he's feeling the birthright was stolen
from Esau. Is there reference to that as part of
the early days of angst of the separation with Father Abraham.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah. The Qur'an actually talks a lot about Abraham and
claims all the Biblical profits as profits of Islam. Says
Jesus was a Muklam as well. And the idea is
that the early Jews and Christians corrupted the teachings, the
Islamic teachings of their profits to create what we know
of as Judaism and Christianity.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Robert Spencer, it's always fascinating ghodwatch dot dot com. Gad
watches out there, you can look it up and Robert
real quick with The border is a big topic of
conversation during this election cycle, and you always have information
at gid watch about things we ought to be watching
out for. Is it just a made up thought that
maybe there's bad people coming across our border that would
(13:41):
wage GHAD on America.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I wish it were, but unfortunately there's quite a lot
of evidence. Not only have there been several hundred people
on the terror watch list who've already been caught crossing over,
and that of course indicates that there are many others
who got through and weren't caught. But one of them,
just a few months ago, tried to breach Quantico Marine
Base in Virginia, which is an extremely sensitive installation with
(14:05):
a lot more than just marines on it, and he
tried to get in. He said he was an Amazon
driver and he was an illegal migrant from Jordan who
was on the Tarraor watch list and had just crossed
the southern border. Nobody knows what he was trying to do,
because it turned out his truck was empty, so it
was probably just a dry run to test the security there,
but that in itself shows how dangerous it is to
(14:29):
keep the border open.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Robert Spencer. If you want a good read, I'd encourage
you Mohammed A Critical Biography, and you can find out
the earliest Islamic sources and the details about Mohammad and
the history of it told right there on the pages
Mohammed A Critical Biography, Robert. If someone wants to go
to g hotwatch, they can look up the website. If
(14:52):
someone wants to buy the book, where do they go?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Amazon's got it, Barnes and Nobles got it, and if
there's still a bookstore in your area, go and ask
him to you.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Got a Muhammad A Critical Biography by Robert Spencer. Robert,
thanks for hopping on the program. Always a pleasure to
hear your voice, and it's always he's a wealth of
knowledge on these topics, and you got to read it.
I've seen part of the book. I haven't been able
to devour the entire thing, but it is fascinating. And
just because you're told something doesn't always make it true.
(15:23):
He's got it all documented, he does the research, and
I think you'll be fascinating with what you see. Robert
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(16:06):
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Good to have you here. Jimmy is my name, pleasured please,
and I'm thrilled to be here. The first day of
fall happened over the weekend, and it feels kind of
luck fall. This morning, I had to put a little
jacket on. I still got my short pants on. I
don't give those up till January, so I like the
short pants. You know it's radio, even if I was
(00:21):
on television. I'm under the desk. You don't see my legs.
A lot of folks want to see these legs, let
me believe, believe me, but you don't see them. If
you want to, though, I should get an OnlyFans Paige
not I'm joking. That is just I do not plan
to get one of those, but I don't know it
does pay right, baby, we shall all right. Good to
(00:41):
have you here. If you're new to the program, my
name is Jimmy Jimmy Lakey. You can catch me at
Jimmy Lakey at iHeartMedia dot com j I M M
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Lakey fan page on the old tweeter you can find me.
Just my name Jimmy Lakey, j I M M Y.
(01:03):
And see what else do I have. I've got Instagram
is just my name, Twitter's my name, Truth Social is
my name. You get the idea. Jimmy Lakey at iHeartMedia
dot com. All right, let me welcome into the program.
Friend of the show. You might know him from previous
interviews and some great books and also his website ge Hotwatch.
(01:24):
Mister Robert Spencer's got a brand new book we'll talk about.
But Robert, welcome back to the show. So it's been
a while.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Hey, always good to talk to you. Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
How you doing doing very very well. Good to hear
your voice. And I want to talk about your brand
new book. But I'm sitting here looking at the television screen.
Hundreds of Tesbolaw targets are being struck by Israel, these
terrorist types that are Hesbelaw. And how does that affect
(01:51):
the United States of America If any of these people
we keep hearing about our southern border being porous, we
know that they've been trying to get into Israel, and
they've gone into Israel and some bad things. Back last October.
Talk about the impact of these terrorist groups and why
they need to be dealt with.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, I'll give you one example, Jimmy. Remember Ibrahim Akil.
Ibrahim Kiel is the Hisbala commander who Israel took out
in a targeted strike a few days ago. And everybody
has been all upset in the un IS condemning Israel
and so on. But the fact is that Ibrahim Mkiel
was a seriously bad actor. He was responsible for the
(02:29):
bombing of the US Marine barracks in Beirut back in
nineteen eighty three, killing two hundred and forty one US Marines,
and he's been involved in other terrorist attacks since then.
He was on the wanted list for the United States
of America. And so Israel is actually doing a service
to the United States by taking out people who want
(02:49):
to hit US as much as they want to hit Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
The Voice of Robert Spencer has got a new book
out called Mohammed, a Critical Biography, and let's kind of
dive at to the root of what these radical folks
are doing. They say they're inspired by their prophet, and
you've written a book about it. First of all, I'm
sure it's not well received by some, but talk about
the book Muhammad, a critical biography.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, you're absolutely right, Jimmy. There's this guy in Pakistan
and he's pretty talented with the photoshop. He keeps sending
me pictures of myself beheaded and things like that and
telling me that this book better not come out or
he's or I'm going to get it. But it's come
out now, so well, we'll just have to see what happens.
But in any case, it does tell the truth about
(03:35):
what Mohammad said and did according to the Islamic teachings.
Makes it very clear that the earliest traditions show that
Muhammad did all these things that we see modern day
terrorists doing. They're just imitating him.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's we hear this phrase, and I know you get
asked this question a lot. We hear that there's the
radicals and then there's the peaceful, and it's a religion
of peace. And it goes back the days after nine
to eleven when the Bush administration kind of sold that
to us. Help us understand the difference between some of
these folks that are doing terrorist acts and some folks
(04:11):
that are quote from the religion of peace. Is somebody
misinterpreting this thing?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, yeah, but unfortunately it's not the terrorists, and it's
not really a matter of misinterpretation either, it's just a
matter of not wanting to follow through on the clear meaning.
There are plenty of Muslims who are not terrorists, who
are never going to be terrorists, who are perfectly happy
to live in the United States at peace with their neighbors,
(04:37):
and so we can all be glad of that. But
the fact is that the terrorists can and do point
to teachings of the Qur'an and the example of Muhammad
that justify the kinds of things that they're doing. So
we talk about radicals, the radicals are actually mainstream and
are just doing what Islam teaches, and the so called
(04:59):
modern are people who are just kind of pretending for
the most part that those teachings don't exist and living
their lives in other ways. You know. Well, in Christianity,
of course, there are a lot of people who call
themselves Christians and they don't act upon Christianity, and so
that's what those people are like in Islam.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The voice of Robert Spencer. His latest book is called Muhammad,
a Critical Biography. Robert take us back to the real
history of Muhammad we know him or we've heard of
the name, and it's basically based on the Koran and
the writings of Muhammad. Obviously there was a beginning, there
(05:38):
was a start, there was a birthday. What do we
know about the early days before he became quote the prophet.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, the funny thing about it is that when we
go back, there isn't much there that the more I
looked into the earliest Islamic texts about Muhammad's life, the
less there is to see. And it does seem as
if they are more missing legends than there are actual
historical records. And so it's very important for us to
(06:08):
know what the myths and legends say because Muslims believe
them and act on them. But when you're talking about
the historical value of it, it's very very low, if
there's any at all.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And so Ma, yeah, no, I was going to say,
that's interesting because even if you study the life of
Jesus and you don't believe he was the Messiah, the
Son of God, all this suff you you don't believe
that there are still historical evidence in it. There was
a man who lived in that region who was crucified
around the age of thirty three. I mean, there's historical
evidence that shows that this guy existed. Whether he was
(06:40):
who he said he was or whether you believe that,
it doesn't matter. But there was this person, and there
were these followers, and there was this movement that developed
from him, and you're seeing that same type of evidence
is not there regarding Muhammad.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's right, Jimmy, That's exactly it. It's kind of wild
really when you into it, because what you're saying is
absolutely true that when you look at the years from
the thirties of the first century when Jesus lived, and
go to this for sixty years to the nineties, you
have churches established all over, people having the New Testament
(07:19):
and records of Jesus, you have non Christians talking about
Jesus and so on. Now you take the exact period
in Islam from the six thirties when Muhammad is supposed
to have died, to the six nineties, and there's nothing
about him. There are a couple of mentions of the name,
but it might be just a title, and there's no
mention of Islam or the Qur'an. Even while the Arabs
(07:40):
are conquering the Middle East and North Africa and Persia
and this huge expanse of territory, and they never mentioned
that they happen to have this new religion, a new
Holy Book, and new prophet.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That's fascinating. When did this, I guess, the announcement of
this new prophet in this new Holy book? Then when
did it come around? And what was the gid being
waged in the name of before they announced this new prophet.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It was being waged in the name of a radical
monotheism that was saying that we are the religion of Abraham.
But that's about as specific as it got. And they
were very hostile to Christianity. We have records of the
invasion of Jerusalem and the conquest of Jerusalem and the
Christian leader of Jerusalem, the Phronius, lamenting the invasion, but
(08:25):
even he doesn't show any awareness that these people have
this new religion or the Qur'an or Mohammed. We only
start hearing about Mohammad much later in the sixth nineties,
and especially even one hundred years after that, in the
late seven hundreds and the early eight hundreds. That's when
all the records of Mohammed date from. And so you're
talking about as much as two hundred years after he's
(08:48):
supposed to have died. That would be like if we
are right now in twenty twenty four and the first
biography of Thomas Jefferson was just published.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, the voice of Robert Spencer, Robert you in the book.
This fascinating, this two hundred year gap before suddenly we
found out this person has lived. We actually missed out
on it. He's lived, and here's the writings of him.
And by the way, we've been holding these for two
hundred years. Nobody knows why. But you didn't put in
the book that some of the stories about the name
(09:21):
or misconstrued that even the name Mohammed wasn't the name
originally used to describe this person.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's right, Jimmy. See that just shows how this is
not historical material, because if you have a story about
a guy named Mohammad that actually lived, then that's what
you would be calling him. But there are actually records
in the Islamic traditions. This is not enemy writing. This
is Muslim's writing saying, well, he was originally named Kutam
(09:51):
and later became known as Mohammed, and this is an
indication probably that there were stories of some guy named
Kuto who's been lost to history, whose stories were included
in the Mohammad legend as it was being put together.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Robert Spencer my guest, Robert, before we break up here
in this interview, I want to make sure people know
how to buy the book. But somebody may listening going
you've received threats from Pakistan. I know previously you've had
a poisoning incident. People don't like your writing, but you
write it. I mean, you're just writing the facts. You're
doing the research or writing the facts. But somebody may say, Robert,
(10:28):
why would you write this book knowing that it's not
going to be well received and there's people out there
that would do you harm. What motivates Robert Spencer to
continue to I wouldn't say pick a five, but what
motivates Robert Spencer to continue the journey of educating people?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, Jimmy, you know, when there's something that's the right
thing to do, then it's worth doing, even if there's risk.
But I think that it's important for people to know
that Muhammad is more of a construct of politicians than
an actual his historical figure, and that he said and
did these things that are inspiring terrorists. So that there
will be action to stop that and limit the influence
(11:08):
that these stories have, and so I think that's worth doing.
It's not as if I'm the to live forever if I.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Don't do it again. The voice of Robert Spencer. Let's
say that I'm still stuck on this thing that you
can find historical, secular evidence of the life and times
of Jesus. Whether or not you believe what he said
that that's your opinion, but there's a historical evidence, and
you went back and there's just nothing there. And why
(11:36):
do you think that is? I mean it, I'm guessing
there was a person that maybe the myth of the
legend grew over time, or did it just take a
while to figure it all out.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I think it's possible that there was a person, but
there may have been nobody at all. It may have
been that the whole thing was invented. But it is possible,
as you say, that there was some guy that these
legends got attached to. But in any case, what seems
to have happened was that you had this huge empire
that the Arabs got put together, and in those days
(12:06):
there weren't parliaments and constitutions of the kind that we
have today. Empires were held together by a common religion.
So the Arabs then created this religion out of pre
existing material that came from Christianity and Judaism, and they
formed this new religion to hold their empire together. And
because they were warriors, they made it warlike, aggressive, expansionist,
(12:30):
and so on, in order to make sure that it
would be preserved and that it would grow.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Is in their history and in the history that you
find out about the history of Muhammad is their reference
to what those of us who follow the Bible knows,
Abraham choosing Isaac and he's feeling the birthright was stolen
from Esau. Is there reference to that as part of
the early days of angst of the separation with Father Abraham.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah. The Qur'an actually talks a lot about Abraham and
claims all the Biblical profits as profits of Islam. Says
Jesus was a Muklam as well. And the idea is
that the early Jews and Christians corrupted the teachings, the
Islamic teachings of their profits to create what we know
of as Judaism and Christianity.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Robert Spencer, it's always fascinating ghodwatch dot dot com. Gad
watches out there, you can look it up and Robert
real quick with The border is a big topic of
conversation during this election cycle, and you always have information
at gid watch about things we ought to be watching
out for. Is it just a made up thought that
maybe there's bad people coming across our border that would
(13:41):
wage GHAD on America.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I wish it were, but unfortunately there's quite a lot
of evidence. Not only have there been several hundred people
on the terror watch list who've already been caught crossing over,
and that of course indicates that there are many others
who got through and weren't caught. But one of them,
just a few months ago, tried to breach Quantico Marine
Base in Virginia, which is an extremely sensitive installation with
(14:05):
a lot more than just marines on it, and he
tried to get in. He said he was an Amazon
driver and he was an illegal migrant from Jordan who
was on the Tarraor watch list and had just crossed
the southern border. Nobody knows what he was trying to do,
because it turned out his truck was empty, so it
was probably just a dry run to test the security there,
but that in itself shows how dangerous it is to
(14:29):
keep the border open.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Robert Spencer. If you want a good read, I'd encourage
you Mohammed A Critical Biography, and you can find out
the earliest Islamic sources and the details about Mohammad and
the history of it told right there on the pages
Mohammed A Critical Biography, Robert. If someone wants to go
to g hotwatch, they can look up the website. If
(14:52):
someone wants to buy the book, where do they go?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Amazon's got it, Barnes and Nobles got it, and if
there's still a bookstore in your area, go and ask
him to you.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Got a Muhammad A Critical Biography by Robert Spencer. Robert,
thanks for hopping on the program. Always a pleasure to
hear your voice, and it's always he's a wealth of
knowledge on these topics, and you got to read it.
I've seen part of the book. I haven't been able
to devour the entire thing, but it is fascinating. And
just because you're told something doesn't always make it true.
(15:23):
He's got it all documented, he does the research, and
I think you'll be fascinating with what you see. Robert
Spencer thanks for hopping on the program. Dan Caplis I
talk about him often this portion of the program. I
want to remind you that Dan Capli's law is a
serious firm for serious cases. You ever found yourself in
a wrongful death situation with a family member, I hope
(15:45):
you never do. How about a traffic accident? Just talk
to a friend the other day that he was on
the two seventy I two seventy headed to work and
saw a car behind him, so that car is not going
to stop, and that car didn't stop, smashed his car
up a little dead. He ended up concussed and have
to didn't go to the hospital, chose not to, but
(16:06):
definitely was sore. Well, what's interesting is the very next morning,
the person who hit him that their insurance company was
calling him literally less than twenty four hours and say, hey,
sorry for the accident that our client ran into you.
Could we offer you a settlement? Man, that insurance company
was trying to get him to settle right then, He's like, listen,
I don't even know how hurt I am. I wasn't
(16:27):
that sore yesterday. Today I can barely move, don't call me.
But they were literally within twenty four hours, the insurance
company was calling him to try to get him to settle.
What if there's long term issues, what if there was
going to be missing of work, what if there's long
term health issues. He was fine so far, he's good.
He was over hanging out at my place on Friday,
(16:47):
and I'm thankful that my friend is Okay. Listen, you
got to know that if you need somebody in that
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Dancaplislaw dot com, Dankapleislaw dot com. Make sure you tell
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