103124 Heidi Ganahl

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right, an election day drawth NYE. Tuesday is a big day.
We're an election season, obviously, but we start counting the
votes on Tuesday in America, and polls show that it's
a neck and neck race in the swing states, and
we'll see, we'll see it all pans out and nothing

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to figure. My friends, I'm a happy warrior no matter what.
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All right, Ladies and gentlemen, you might remember the name
of Heidigdanall. She's served on the CU Board of Regions

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for a couple of years and also ran for governor
a couple of years ago. But she's got a new
focus and she's been looking at election integrity and Heidigan
All on the hotline. Good morning, Heidi, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, good morning, Jimmy. It's great to be on.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Good to have you here. I want to start here
with this story about Jenna Griswald. The complete Colorado dot
com side has this headline today, Jenna Griswald screwed the pooch.
I guess a spreadsheet was on the Secretary of State
side her side from months here in Colorado. And if
you downloaded the page, which I guess a lot of

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folks did, and you clicked on high, you could find
the passwords to secure to the voting machines and the
voting websites for Colorado, wo She said, there's nothing to
see here, no problem. However, she was treating as if
there's a problem, and they were doing an analysis to
see who might have access stuff. What the heck happened

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there the Secretary of State's office.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well that's a good question, Jimmy, and we need answers.
And this is one of the same convictions that Tina
Peters was put in jail for nine years for. And
interesting enough, Senna Griswold changed the rules, her rules that
putting passwords out was a felony. I believe that's what
she said. And now she's got to live with her

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own rules. So let's see if anybody holds her accountable.
I think it's a bit funny that the media, the
liberal media, is all of a sudden up in arms
about Jenna. I think it's because she's embarrassed them and
they need to put the blame on somebody, so they're
going to tag Jenna with it. But there's also her
deputy secretary at state, who is in charge because she

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was on maternity lead. There's the governor who oversees the
whole thing, and there are the county clerks who've been
parroting her words and believing everything she said and kind
of backing her up and not letting us voters question
any of these systems or processes.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
So far. I mean, if you read her statements, there
all over the map, there's nothing to see here, there's
no security threat. And yet she says people are out
of the field making sure there's no security thread. So
she gave a prognostication that there was no damage done
before they did the full investigation to say there was
no damage done, what kind of damage possibly could have

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been done? And then we'll dive into kind of the
things you've been finding out about our elections in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Anyway, Well, Jimmy, if you talk to security experts, this
is a very big deal, very big deal, and she's
downplaying it. But at this point, we need some serious
evaluation of our election, and it's one week out, less
than a week out. She could quickly bring in some experts,
a bipartisan commission of experts to look at the ramifications

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of what happened. But here's the interesting twist. About a
month ago, a little over a month ago, I did
a press conference about our investigation over two years, and
what we found was there was actually remote access in
our voting systems in Douglas County after the clerk had
told us there wasn't after the Secretary of State said
boldly in twenty twenty that all capabilities for that were

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stripped out of the voting machines and the trusted build process,
and many of the clerks repeated that. So here you've
got remote access in one county. Come to find out,
it's twelve counties that add up to about four hundred
thousand voters in Colorado that have remote access capable abilities
in our voting systems. Then you've got these passwords that
are leaked. You've got fraudulent ballots that were allowed through

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in Mesa County because of a faulty signature or verification
process we've never audited. We don't know if it works
or not. And then you've got troubling problems with ballot
scanners in three counties that's come up in the last
couple of weeks. So it's like black a mole. There's
all kinds of things happening now, Jimmy, one really important thing,
this does not mean anyone should not vote. We've got

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to show up in droves. Everybody has to vote. We've
got to make this too big to rig. We've got
to make it so that it's a resounding win next Tuesday,
and there's no question about the results of the election.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
The voice of hiding at all, she's doing something now
called the Rocky Mound Voice. We'll get into that here
just a moment. They spend a lot of time, effort,
and energy looking at the I guess sanctity of our
Colorado elections and the safety and integrity where Colorado elections.
We can dive into that. I want to talk about though,
as Tuesday we start counting the votes. Of course, the

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ballots have been out in Colorado for a couple of
weeks now for most people you mentioned as a game
of whack a mole? Right now, what problems have been
I guess popping their head that you're aware of heading
into Tuesday's count day, not just election days, the day
we start counting and it has the Secretary of State

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or is anybody addressing those problems? I mean, you've mentioned
it so a game of whack a mole? Or which
moles are we whacking and which ones are being ignored?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well, to me, one of the reasons we focused on
three issues when I did this press conference. There are
many issues, but the three that we focused on were
ones you think it's fix ahead of the election. Instead,
they decided to mock me and call me reckless and
a conspiracy theorist, all those things instead of addressing the problems.
The three problems we focused on were one, the remote
Wi Fi access in the voting systems and that leaves

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the machines vulnerable to outside bad actors or inside bad actors.
Number two, the drop boxes are not secure. There's over
four hundred voting drop boxes across the state. And when
we looked at the video cameras and how they track
footage and monitor these drop boxes, it was horrifying. The
video cameras are very low quality, they don't make the

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specification requirements to submit as evidence at court. They're often
pointed in the wrong direction, and the footage is not
very often monitored or reviewed. It's only if somebody brings
up an issue that they look at it. And we've
written several articles about that. So we created a Dropbox
Observer program. You can go to Colorado dropbox dot com
to sign up wherever you live in the state will

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train you how to do that to do the job
that the cameras should be doing. It's really important in
these last days of the election. The third thing that
we found was a problem with the post office. We
did an audit of the post office. Colorado Institute fer
Elections here in Colorado did it and Bob Cooper, who
did the audit, found thirty thousand undeliverable ballots that were

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unaccounted for in the invoicing between the post Office and
the clerk's offices in nine counties. You only looked at
eleven counties. Two or good nine had significant differences in
their accounting of undeliverable ballots. Where are those ballots? Nobody
knows and no one wants to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
So the ballots go out, they're undeliverable. Somebody has moved.
They're not of this address that moved their peelbox, whatever
the case may be. What's the protocol supposed to be.
The Post Office is supposed to return those of the
county clerk, and there's a tracking system of some sources
that's supposed to be in place. What is supposed to happen.
We know that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So the law requires the post Office to invoice the
county clerk's office for each undeliverable ballot. That's basically how
they track how many there are. And when you look
at the invoices, they aren't specifically spelled out as ballots,
but you can tell from the weight of the items
in the invoicing. And so Bob was able to evaluate
how many ballots were invoiced back to the counties and

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that's where the gap was. And here's the disappointing thing, Jimmy,
and this goes to bigger issues that we're facing. The
government self regulates these clerk's offices in the post office.
They self regulate. They don't bring in independent forensic experts
to look at these processes and systems like the signature
verification process, like the undeliverable ballot return process, like the

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drop boxes and how to evaluate those that footage or
the voter rules. All those things are so important to
the process. We've got to rely on independent outside forensic
experts who know this stuff inside and out and can
tell us if these systems or processes work, because right
now they're not working.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I'm fascinated by Jenna Griswold and how she just kind
of has remained under the radar, even this latest thing.
She say there's nothing to see here, and but hey,
there's something to see here, because I'm going to send
people on the field to make sure that none of
these systems were breached. But I mean, I just pull
up headlines about Jenna Griswold. Federal judge advanced a lawsuit
because Jenna Griswold was fighting over the disclosure of whether

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we should know who the dead voters were. I don't
understand her issue. I mean, for two three years she
has stonewalled been Tom Fitting in Judicial Watch sued her
about the voter roles in Colorado in her position of
Secretary of State. She fought it. I mean, it seems
as if to Heidi to me, whether your Red team
or Blue team, you would want to know if dead

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people were voting in Colorado or like they do in Chicago.
You would want to know if people that were unqualified
or let's say illegal to vote were voting in Colorado.
You would want to know that we had fair election.
It seems as if that should not be a red
team or a Blue team issue. But Jenna Griswold has
fought that every step of the way. It seems tore
her term of office.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, and I'm glad you brought up two of those issues.
One is that the Secretary of State wants to keep
dead voters on the roles. The Public Legal Foundation asked
to see the eric reports for Colorado of dead people
that could possibly be voting, and Griswold refused to release them,
so the courts had to get involved. And guess when
the deadline is. It's Friday tomorrow for her to supply

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that information, Like you can do anything about if they
find stuff by Tuesday, but at least we'll know if
she gives out the information. The other thing is the
do the voter roles contain questionable voters? Well. United Sovereign
Americans has filed a lawsuit in Colorado because they've discovered
over one hundred thousand improperly counted votes from the voter

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roles and from the twenty two election. The final thing
is we've been looking at the DMV and how we
can tell if there are non citizen voters on the roles,
and we were blocked. The DMV did not allow us
to get access to the citizenship status data claimed some
statute and even if they took off the personal information

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and so it's very, very difficult or impossible for an
outside group or nonprofit or an audit group to come
in and look at that information. Why why don't they
want transparency? It's crazy, it really is.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Now You've put a lot of this effort in the
research you've talked about in the audit that's been going
on with the coloradaf Fair Election Group. A lot of
this is at Rocky Mountain Voice. Talk about what people
can find it. First of all, people need to get
out and vote, and I want to talk about the
work that you have and where they can find the information.
And then I kind of talked about some of the

(12:21):
good news of this election in our final moments together.
But Rocky Mountain Voice, what will they find there? And
they can find some of these researches that you the
research you've talked about.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, Rockymountain Voice dot com is an unabashedly rite of
centered news source. So you don't have to dig around
to find in the weeds the articles that don't have
a liberal bias event. You can go to Rockymountain Voice
dot com and find those every day. We update the
site all day long. We've got original content, we share
content from other conservative podcast hosts like you, Jimmy radio
hosts and sorry you're a radio host on a podcast

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host it's too early. I haven't had enough cappeen yet.
And then we also have a newsletter called the Mountain Minute.
Newsletter comes out every day with a five minute read
of the news. You subscribe. It's free, there's no ads, paywalls,
none of that. You can also find me on Twitter.
I'm putting a lot of this out on x just
at Heidi Ganal Rocky. Mountain Voice is going to put
out an article that I wrote late last night and

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this morning summarizing everything we've found and that's come out
in the last few weeks about what's happening in our
elections in Colorado and also what to do about it
and what to do about it. It starts at the
local level. Talk to your county clerk's office, Talk to
your county commissioners. They have a lot of influence and
they hire and manage the county attorney who's critical in
this process. Volunteer at Colorado dropbox dot com and demand

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professional outside audits of the voting machines, the signature verification process,
and the voter rolls.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
The voice of Heidi Ganald and again we'll give the
website again just a moment. Follow her on the Twitter
or the x machine. You can do that at just
at Haidie Ganal. And by the way, Heidi, I do
have a podcast. The show becomes a podcast. I have
my own podcast called The Critical Mission. Got it right?
Either way, I'm a podcaster and a radio host. I'm
a dual entity. I guess I represent both sides of it. Well,

(14:10):
I don't know that. Evidently, according to my contract and management,
I don't have much talent. But thank you. I appreciate
you saying that. Hiding get all my guest, how do
you let me ask you this question? Are there counties
like for instance, I vote in Weld County and I
got a ballot tracks email or a text message notification
when my ballot left the Weld County I guess Cork's

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office where they came from. When it was put them
on po box. I got that. I got one when
I had dropped it in the drop box. I got
one that had been received and it was a waiting
sign I got like six messages. Finally, it says your
vote has been counted and your signature has been verified.
I've got a friend to votes in Adams County and
says she had a tough time getting her ballot and

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she wasn't going to trust the drop boxes and in
Adams County, she was going to go hand deliver it
and make them like sign of paper that she delivered
it because she didn't trust them and she wasn't getting
any notification. Even though everybody's supposed to be on ballot tracks.
Question is are there better counties right now? Worst counties?
Counties we should be on the lookout. If you live
in this county, you need to be paying very close

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attention to your ballot.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I would suggest you know, if you have a Democrat clerk, yeah,
keep an eye on things. I'm not saying they do
anything or that anything's wrong, but I just would ask
for transparency in the process. If you have a Republican
clerk too, like, there's no reason you shouldn't call if
you haven't gotten your ballot and say where the heck
is it, check your registration, make sure you are getting
those notifications. I would just suggest that you stay involved

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in the process, keep an eye on things, and report
anything that you see that's off to your county clerk's
office or your county commissioners. If you don't feel comfortable
with your county clerk and how they're handling the situation,
go to the county commissioners.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, hiding it all. I appreciate it again. Give the
website Rocky Bound Voice, folcusing to This is a great
source of information across Colorado and folks can find it there.
It's Rocky Mountain Voice. Give the website one.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
More time, Rockymountain Voice dot com. And the Mountain Minute
newsletter you can sign up for at Rockymountain Voice dot com.
And then if you'd like to learn more about being
a public dropbox observer in these final days, you can
go to Colorado dropbox dot com.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Any thoughts sixty seconds. Any thoughts on the election, not
just nationally, but we've got a lot of things on
the ballot here in Colorado. Are we gonna make some
progress back to sanity here in Colorado? Your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm a bit pessimistic just because the Democrats have so
much money and these ballot initiatives. If you look at
the money being spent on getting ranked choice voting, I
think it's fifteen million dollars to three hundred thousand opposing
and I'm against ranked choice voting. I think it's very
confusing and not a good process. But the money involved
is insane. So we've got some work to do. We're

(16:56):
doing that by building Rockymountain Voice dot Com. I'm helping
grassroots leaders across off the state. We've all really rolled
up our sleeves and we're doing a lot of work
behind the scenes that you're not necessarily seeing. But I
think we'll have the fruits of those labors in twenty
six and twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Hiding gin All the website is out there, a follower
on Twitter. I appreciate you hopping on the program, Heidi,
get some more coffee. But yes, I am a podcaster.
I got to listen to the links. Make sure you
know where to find me on the podcast and the
radio show Hiding and All. Thank you. I appreciate you.
I'll be back Lakey on the radio, Jimmy Lakey News
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