October 2, 2020 • 30 mins
Speaker Gingrich gives you his candid reaction to the first Presidential debate on Tuesday night. He is joined by members of his Inner Circle club to hear their questions and reactions. You can join the Inner Circle club today at http://newtsinnercircle.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this episode of News Tour. That's what he keeps
trying to rile everything up. He doesn't want to calm
things down. What's he do? He just pours gasoline in
the fire. Somebody's got to do something about Antifa and
the left, because this is not a right wing problem.
This is a left I direct. This is let white
supremacist Antifa is an idea and not an organism as
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you got it, not polition. We're done, sir, the vote
now go to fact. They sure you in fact let
people know he isn't. Senator, I'm not going to answer
the question. Answer that because the question left you shot. Listen,
who is on your list? Joe? Your different approachist has
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even affected the way that you have campaign. President Trump,
you're holding large rallies. Vice President Biden, you are holding
much smaller events with nobody will show up. People would
nobody shows up to his al Right, a lot of
people die and a lot more gonna die unless he
gets a lot smarter, a lot So, as the President,
did you use the words smart? So you said you
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went to Delaware State, but you forgot the name of
your college. You didn't go to Delaware State. You graduated
either the lowest or almost the lowest in your class.
Don't ever use the words smart with me. Don't ever
use that word Oh, give me here, because you know what,
there's nothing smart about you, Joe. Like many Americans, my
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reaction to the presidential debate last night was one of
surprise and frustration. I heard from any of you that
the vitriol between the two candidates and the lack of
control by moderator Chris Wallace made many of you turn
off your TVs rather than bear witness to the lack
of decorum and talking over one another. It's an unfortunate
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start to our countdown the twenty twenty presidential election. The
American people deserve better. Hopefully the candidates will receive the
message loud and clear, but they both need to do
better next time to address the important issues that face
our country. The next presidential debates will be on October
fifteenth on October twenty second, with the vice presidential debate
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on October seventh. I was fortunate today to have an
opportunity to speak to members of my Inner Circle club
by video conference this morning and share both my thoughts
on the debate and also here what they had to say.
The podcast today is part of our conversation. Now, I'm
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gonna talk briefly and candidly about last night. I think
that it may be the worst presidential debate in American history,
which only starts, of course, with John F. Kennedy and
Richard Nixon in nineteen sixty, so it's a sixty year
old tradition. None of the three participants covered themselves with glory.
I think that the country is facing huge challenges, the
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challenge of COVID, the challenge of lockdown, the challenge of
the economy, the challenge of a huge debt overhang for
the future, the challenge of an education system that doesn't work,
the rising challenge from China. I just think there are
so many things that we should be having a serious
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conversation about. And I thought none of the three participants,
neither President Trump, Vice President Biden, nor Chris Wallace, really
rose to the occasion. And it was always, frankly, it
degenerated into something that made me pretty uncomfortable and made
almost everybody I've talked to pretty uncomfortable. As most of
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you know, I'm very pro Trump, and I think that
Biden's election will be a disaster. But I think I
have an obligation to speak as an American citizen, and
this just wasn't good enough. And I hope that the
President will really take a big step back and we'll
rethink how he approached this and maybe fundamentally rethink what
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he does and what the vice president does. We have
our vice presidential debate coming up in just a few days,
and I hope that Vice President Pence takes that as
an opportunity to show all of us what a serious,
calm issue oriented positive debate can be. Like. You can
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have a serious discussion about the degree to which Biden
doesn't understand Antifa, for example. You can have a serious
discussion about condemning white nationalism. Where the President got off
onto repeating some stuff that wasn't going to work with
the news media. He just gave them a huge opening
to hammer on him for he'll do now for three
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or four days. All of these things are predictable, All
these things are solvable. We've allowed our political process to
get done into a combination of sort of gotcha and
petty trivia, and yet the country's faced with the largest
range of challenges, from rethinking healthcare, to rethinking education to
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rebuilding infrastructure, to fundamentally overhauling the great bureaucracies that have
become so rigid and so inefficient, to thinking through how
we're going to deal with the world in which we're
going to solve many of the problems of aging. We're
going to have an amazing number of Americans, the next
generation moving to be over a hundred. Well, we're not
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prepared to deal with any of that. And this kind
of debate that is narrow, petty, nasty, yelling at each other,
talking over each other, with no real focus on positive things.
It's a sad commentary and where we are as a
country right now. And I think that both President Trump
and Vice President Biden are potentially better than that, and
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I hope that the message they're going to get from
virtually every American is let's take the last three debates,
the vice presidential debate, two presidential debates, and let's turn
them into serious conversations, and let's insist that the moderators
ask serious adult questions and don't just play gotcha, and
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don't pick up off the latest life from the New
York Times, the latest smear for some other publication. And
I did not think it went well for anybody. I
don't know who will gain out of it. I think
on style, probably Biden did better. On substance, I think
Trump did dramatically better. I mean, when Biden can't recognize
that Antifa is an organization, he's got a problem. And
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I think there a whole series of things like that.
I originally started out to write about how these kind
of debates happen and how they occur and what they mean.
But the more I thought about it, that's not the
big story. The big story from last night is that
this was not an acceptable debate for the American people.
It wasn't the right tone. It's horrifying for foreigners. How
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can you rely on the most powerful nation of the
world when this ninety minute spectacle is how they're picking
their leaders. I'm going to be very blunt. Our leaders
owe us a more honest and more adult conversation. At
least That's where I'm coming from. And I'll look forward
to your questions in your comments, and maybe you can
help educate me, or if you think I'm way off,
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maybe you can tell me why I'm way off. Let's
take some questions when Crawford from California after last night's debate.
How would you prep President Trump and Vice President Pence
for their upcoming debates? What should the president do differently?
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They should talk to the American people, not to the moderator,
and not to their opponent. They should talk about big solutions,
big ideas, and they should system staying at that level.
And if their opponent wants to get down in the mud,
has pat them on the head. This isn't twenty sixteen.
Part of what has got Trump a little bit off
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track is in twenty sixteen, he was an outsider, he
was a newcomer. He was in a race with somebody
who was deeply disliked, and it was a brutal slugging match.
We're not there. The country's in much deeper trouble. People
feel they're in deeper trouble. People are much more anxiety written.
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They want reassurance. They want a sense that we have
leaders who know what they're doing and that will share
with us where we're going. We want to go on
this journey together. That's what a free society is all about.
And this really does concern me. I'm very concerned about
where we are right now. In a circle, member Keith guess,
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would there be value in having each candidate give opening
and closing statements in which anything can be discussed. Look,
I am very much opposed to the news media defined
and news media dominated debate system that has evolved. I
think it puts way too much power in the hands
of the reporters. They're not running for office, they're not
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going to be president, and they have no particular claim
to be the people who interrogate our potential leaders. So
I'd much prefer to have an opening and closing that
were totally controlled by the candidates, And frankly, I'd like
to see the candidates have a dialogue more than a debate,
have a conversation rather than yelling at each other. Larry
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wants to know if you think President Trump is cultural
on how to best debate on TV. I think President
Trump's very smart. He had very smart people like Chris
Christie coaching him, so it's not that they didn't do coaching,
but I think they went in there and misunderstood totally
both where the country is and what it would feel
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like to engage in that kind of combat. I do think,
by the way, that when you have an essentially liberal
commentator asking questions, if you're the Conservative candidate. You have
to go in recognizing it's going to be a two
to one against you, and that you have an obligation
to reach beyond where we are and not ever allow
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the newsperson to define the debate. So I think that's
almost guarantees a certain level of conflict. But that's why, frankly,
I'd like to see them find a totally different way
of doing these things. I think the Whole Debate Commission
is a bunch of self important people coming out of
the nineteen seventies. I dislike the Commission deeply. I think
the way they structure things is wrong, and I'd almost
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rather have random questions coming from the American people, which
you could certainly do in the modern age, rather than
from some reporter. Nancy asked what Senate races are too
close to call? Where are the real battlegrounds going on?
Lookin bunch of very exciting races on both sides. I
think the race in Michigan, where Jones is running as
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a Republican has a superb chance to win. I think
the race in Maine where Susan Collins is in the
fight of her life, but she has a long track
record as an independent thinker that really does kind of
fit Maine. Frankly, Colorado is a challenge. One of our
best candidates is the Senator Corey Gardner, but he's got
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a real tough race because Colorado has gradually grown much
more Democrat. We have a very good candidate in New
Mexico who was the weatherman down there, and he may
well pull off a real upset. I look around the country,
they're a bunch of these places. Iowa may be the
biggest fight of all. It's very interesting because I think
Joni Ernst is a great senator, a great candidate, but
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she's in a real fight, and the amount of money
the Democrats support into Iowa because it's the presidency, it's
a Tennessee and I think there are either three or
four House seats that are up where we could sweep
the state. And my friends and I will tell me
that they think we're very likely to sweep the state.
So those are some pretty good examples of very close
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races that are going to be exciting to watch on
election night. Sherry from Georgia has a great question, is
a concession required by the losing nominee if the outcome
is so close and no one wants to concede. Do
we not have a winner and have to wait till
someone gives up? No concessions not required. It doesn't really
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matter whether you concede. What matters is how many electors
get picked, and if you have two hundred and seventy electors,
you win. It's that straightforward. The real question is, given
all the things the Democrats are doing to change what's
going on, they're talking now, for example, about allowing ballots
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to come in nine days after the election, Well, then
figure out how long it's going to think, then to
count and verify them. So you could be talking about
not knowing who has carried a particular state until the
beginning of December. I mean, we're drifting towards a real nightmare.
I don't collect various news stories and state after state
where people are getting ballots they didn't ask for. Some
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people are getting two ballots. The whole thing is going
to be the messiest election process in American history is
coming right at us in November. To follow up on that,
Larne Bass, So what happens if the election isn't decided
on November third, what are the steps that happen after that? Well?
I think there are three phases. First of all, you
have devout count on November third. In the days that
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follow it, we just did a terrific podcast with Ted Cruz,
who has a new book out. And Cruz was on
the legal team in Florida in two thousand in the
Gore versus Bush campaign. He really lived through it. It
was thirty five days between the election and the Supreme
Court finally saying that Bush had won. One step is
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to simply upstraight out of lawsuits. I am told that
in Philadelphia alone, the Democrats have filed twenty four lawsuits
as placeholders. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm told by
lawyers what that means is you can then go back
in and file a real lawsuit for that placeholder, and
it puts you higher up on the docket, and therefore
you're more likely to be able to pick a judge
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you want. And so that could be a whole mess.
You see a lot of states tied up in court.
You then could see real contests about who actually won it.
You have to go back and ever recount. I mean,
imagine trying to recount a big state like California, and
then you have the question of are the enough electors
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for somebody to get two hundred and seventy electoral laws.
If that doesn't happen, then you would go to the
House of Representatives, which is an interestingly mixed bag because
in a presidential vote, state counts as one. So California,
which is huge, counts as one, and Wyoming, which is tiny,
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counts as one. The Republicans actually have more states than
the Democrats. But a good friend of mine, Bill Pets,
who used to be the Republican parliamentarian for Bob Michael,
has pointed out that they could simply gin up some
election challenges and refuse to seat four or five Republican
members and therefore give the Democrats a temporary majority in
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the House, and they could then pick the president. Hi,
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you willing tonight to condemn white supremacies and militia groups
and to say that they need to stand down and
not add to the violence and a number of these
cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen
in Portland. I'm willing to do anything. I want to
see peace and do it, sir, do it? Say it?
You want to call him? What do you want to
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call him? Give me a name, give me a sum
and I like to stand back and stand by. Kathy
wants to know what your opinion is of white Trump
avoided the question to denounce white supremacy groups. I just
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thought it was done for some reason. Trump couldn't bring
himself to just say I denounced this group. He did
denounce the Ku Klux Klan, and he has certainly denounced
white racists. That was probably his biggest misstep because it
gave the left something easy to hang on to. No,
there is no evidence if you look at his appointees,
if you look at the people he works with, if
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you look at the amount of energy he's putting into
the historically black colleges and universities. Certainly Trump is deeply
committed to an integrated United States. But I do think
that by not just being that blunt and that direct,
he set himself up for a little more pain, a
little more scarring up than he needed. Matt and Reny
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similar questions. Given all the news of the last couple
of days on the mail in ballot fraud, if you
are President Trump, how would you position teams nationwide, statewide,
countywide to prevent this great potential for voting fraud? Is
there anything he should be doing or thinking about? Well,
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I think the Republican National Committee has a huge pole
watching program underway, and anybody listeners who wants to get
involved should check to see if they need pole watchers
in their community. I think the Republican lawyers have literally
hundreds and hundreds of lawyers lined up, and I think
the Justice Department, on behalf of getting to an honest election,
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will have people in the field looking at what's going
on and prepared to rest people if in fact anybody's
overtly breaking the law. So I think it'll be a
lot of effort, but we don't know though. When you
have these deals, like in Nevada, the governor and the
Democratic legislature have passed a law to send a ballot
to everybody in the state, whether they ask for it
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or not, and the Post Office has already written them
a letter and said, if you do that, we know
there are two hundred thousand people who no longer live
in Nevada, and so you're going to be asking us
to send out two hundred thousand ballots, which are then
going to sit at a apartment house, so they're going
to sit at a condo, or they're going to sit
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at a nursing home. And then the Culinary Union which
is the strongest democratic organization of the state. We'll go
around and pick them up, and you'll have ballot harvesting.
If the Democrats have their way, there will be no
signature verification, there'll be no way to prove who voted,
and there'll be a total mess. And every day that
goes by, we see more stories from New York, from Pennsylvania,
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from other places indicating how bad this is going to be.
George is very worried about the election being stolen this year.
He shared with us he's eighty five and this is
his seventeenth presidential election. He wants to know how we
stopped the flow of money into the anarchy groups, especially corporations,
behind lawlessness and political disorder. Why was an action brought
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against Soros? Well, I think that when you're talking about
groups like Antifa, which has been designated as a terrorist group,
there is a provision in federal law that if you're
donating money to a terrorist group, we can prosecute you,
And so I would say that there are a number
of places like that where that's the way we should,
in fact approach it. I don't know that Black Lives
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Matter as an organization is and quite the same overt
being outside the law, but certainly some elements of it are.
And I think that we do have a right as
a country to protect ourselves from people who want to
use violence and want to tear down and burn down buildings, etc.
This is the first year we've really had this scale
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of organized, systematic looting and burning things and violence. We're
gradually going to respond to it. The average person does
not want to live in a neighborhood where criminals can
go around and coerce you and tell you to do
what they tell you to do, or they'll hurt you.
So I do think you'll see a continuing consolidation of
that tim from Nevada as states like California have voting
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laws like ballot harvesting, which Democrats use to their great
advantage in twenty eighteen. What prevents Republicans from doing the
same and taking advantage of those laws. Not much, except
that crons are much more likely to go into a
nursing home and gather up everybody's ballot and cast it
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for them. Republicans tend to be kind of goody goodies,
and so they play by much stricter rules, and they
try to do what the rules call on them to do,
and a lot of Democrats want power, and if that
means they have to fudge on the rules, they just
fudge on the rules. I think it's that straightforward. Steve
from Washington wants to know why does the report on
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Hunter Biden get so little attention? He read the complete
report and it was shocking. We've tweeted out the Center
report on Hunter Biden, and we've also had it, i
think on our show page at Newts World. It's eighty
five pages long and it raises questions like why did
the richest woman in Russia send Hunter Biden a billion
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three hundred million dollars? And you can raise all these
questions and all that. Joe Biden says as well, I
really wasn't paying attention or now hundred Biden flew to
China with his father on Air Force two. He got
to deal with the Chinese who are going to invest
a billion, three hundred million dollars which he was going
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to manage. Now, I mean, is there anybody at all
who believes that if your son or daughter got a billion,
three hundred million dollars deal with the Chinese, that they
wouldn't have come home and told you. I think Senator
Ron Johnson has done a great job of laying it out,
and I think there's more stuff coming in the next
week or so. But if you just want to get
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a sense of how bad this is, that's a great
way to do it. I would have walked off the
stage at certain times and said, until you can actually
make sure that we abide by the rules, I'm not
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going to be a part of this charade. That was
a hot mess, inside a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck.
That was the worst debate I have ever seen. And
it wasn't even a debate. It was a disgrace. That
was a show. That is really the only phrase that
I can think of to really describe it. High nude.
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I'm your fellow Pennsylvanian and campaign worker here in Georgia
back in the eighties and nineties. Do you consider that
the debate moderators should have the capacity to turn off
the mic or a speaker that interrupts or severely overruns
has a lot of time. No, because I totally distrust
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the moderators. I think they would use it on conservatives
and never use it on liberals. I knew it. I
would like to know whether or not you think that
the protest or groups like BLM and Antifa actually don't
want Biden to win because if he did, that would
take away the reason the protests, because you never notice
them showing any signs of supporting Biden when they're protesting.
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Thank you. That's a good question. I would say they
would love to have Biden win because he would be
so weak that they would dominate. Remember, they're perfectly happy
to have left wing mayors in Seattle and Portland, and
left wing district attorneys and a totally insane left wing
mayor in New York and de Blasio. So I think
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they'd be happy to have Biden because if Biden would
be so anti police and so pro criminal that it
will be just four years of people who are dangerous
dominating the country. All right, The next person that is Mark. Mark,
if you could unit your microphone and ask your question
about Speaker Pelosi. One of the things that I'm concerned
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about if this goes to the Congress and the Congress
ultimately decides who is President of the United States going forward,
what kind of role, what kind of power Nancy Pelosi
play in the process. Well, depending on how ruthless they
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want to be if it actually ends up going into
the House, which is where you would pick the president.
I could imagine a circumstance where they would deliberately not
seat Republicans to make sure that they had a majority
to elect the president. I think that's very possible. Who
lived through a recount in nineteen eighty five in Indiana
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nine where there were thirty votes outstanding when their candidate
was up by nine they quit counting and just said,
we're not going to look at the rest of the ballots.
We're done. I know that in Minnesota, the only reason
Franken got in office was after he had lost an
election night somebody magically found an automobile trunk filled with
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ballots that happened to be heavily for Franken. So I
think they are desperate to get power back. I think
they are very afraid of what a Trump's second term
would be like. And I think that it really is
a situation where I would certainly not like to see
us in a House of Representatives dominated by Nancy Pelosi
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making these kinds of life and death decisions about the
very nature of our government. What do you think of
Biden's lack of response last night on the question regarding
packing the Supreme Court. Well, I don't think he wants
to say it. Look, I think Biden's entire strategy is
to try to not be controversial, let the news media
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beat up Trump and win as the not Trump. And
so I think to the degree that he defines anything,
he makes it easier for Trump to shoot at him.
So his whole goal is to rope a dope all
the way to election day and hope that between the
news media and Trump's personality that there will be a
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majority for buy because he's this nice, pleasant guy who
doesn't do anything. That's the only strategy I can make
out of what they're doing. Thank you, Nude just wanted
to know why the President didn't lay out his healthcare plan.
I cannot answer that. The White House has a lot
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of good things to do. In fact, Joe Desanis and
I just published an article on the Trump health plan
laying out item after item after item that they've done
that are terrific. And he did refer to it a
couple times in terms of lowering the cost of drugs
and other things. Mentioned diabetes at one point, But I
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think it's part of the whole way that they approached
this debate, which I think just turned out to be wrong.
But they prepared to come to the debate talk about
what they had achieved and talk about what they were
going to achieve, and stayed at that level. The contrast
between them and Biden would have been devastating. The number
of people I've talked to who could walk after fifteen
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minutes because it was too painful, Well, that's really bad
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On this episode of News Tour. That's what he keeps
trying to rile everything up. He doesn't want to calm
things down. What's he do? He just pours gasoline in
the fire. Somebody's got to do something about Antifa and
the left, because this is not a right wing problem.
This is a left I direct. This is let white
supremacist Antifa is an idea and not an organism as
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you got it, not polition. We're done, sir, the vote
now go to fact. They sure you in fact let
people know he isn't. Senator, I'm not going to answer
the question. Answer that because the question left you shot. Listen,
who is on your list? Joe? Your different approachist has
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even affected the way that you have campaign. President Trump,
you're holding large rallies. Vice President Biden, you are holding
much smaller events with nobody will show up. People would
nobody shows up to his al Right, a lot of
people die and a lot more gonna die unless he
gets a lot smarter, a lot So, as the President,
did you use the words smart? So you said you
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went to Delaware State, but you forgot the name of
your college. You didn't go to Delaware State. You graduated
either the lowest or almost the lowest in your class.
Don't ever use the words smart with me. Don't ever
use that word Oh, give me here, because you know what,
there's nothing smart about you, Joe. Like many Americans, my
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reaction to the presidential debate last night was one of
surprise and frustration. I heard from any of you that
the vitriol between the two candidates and the lack of
control by moderator Chris Wallace made many of you turn
off your TVs rather than bear witness to the lack
of decorum and talking over one another. It's an unfortunate
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start to our countdown the twenty twenty presidential election. The
American people deserve better. Hopefully the candidates will receive the
message loud and clear, but they both need to do
better next time to address the important issues that face
our country. The next presidential debates will be on October
fifteenth on October twenty second, with the vice presidential debate
(02:12):
on October seventh. I was fortunate today to have an
opportunity to speak to members of my Inner Circle club
by video conference this morning and share both my thoughts
on the debate and also here what they had to say.
The podcast today is part of our conversation. Now, I'm
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gonna talk briefly and candidly about last night. I think
that it may be the worst presidential debate in American history,
which only starts, of course, with John F. Kennedy and
Richard Nixon in nineteen sixty, so it's a sixty year
old tradition. None of the three participants covered themselves with glory.
I think that the country is facing huge challenges, the
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challenge of COVID, the challenge of lockdown, the challenge of
the economy, the challenge of a huge debt overhang for
the future, the challenge of an education system that doesn't work,
the rising challenge from China. I just think there are
so many things that we should be having a serious
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conversation about. And I thought none of the three participants,
neither President Trump, Vice President Biden, nor Chris Wallace, really
rose to the occasion. And it was always, frankly, it
degenerated into something that made me pretty uncomfortable and made
almost everybody I've talked to pretty uncomfortable. As most of
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you know, I'm very pro Trump, and I think that
Biden's election will be a disaster. But I think I
have an obligation to speak as an American citizen, and
this just wasn't good enough. And I hope that the
President will really take a big step back and we'll
rethink how he approached this and maybe fundamentally rethink what
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he does and what the vice president does. We have
our vice presidential debate coming up in just a few days,
and I hope that Vice President Pence takes that as
an opportunity to show all of us what a serious,
calm issue oriented positive debate can be. Like. You can
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have a serious discussion about the degree to which Biden
doesn't understand Antifa, for example. You can have a serious
discussion about condemning white nationalism. Where the President got off
onto repeating some stuff that wasn't going to work with
the news media. He just gave them a huge opening
to hammer on him for he'll do now for three
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or four days. All of these things are predictable, All
these things are solvable. We've allowed our political process to
get done into a combination of sort of gotcha and
petty trivia, and yet the country's faced with the largest
range of challenges, from rethinking healthcare, to rethinking education to
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rebuilding infrastructure, to fundamentally overhauling the great bureaucracies that have
become so rigid and so inefficient, to thinking through how
we're going to deal with the world in which we're
going to solve many of the problems of aging. We're
going to have an amazing number of Americans, the next
generation moving to be over a hundred. Well, we're not
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prepared to deal with any of that. And this kind
of debate that is narrow, petty, nasty, yelling at each other,
talking over each other, with no real focus on positive things.
It's a sad commentary and where we are as a
country right now. And I think that both President Trump
and Vice President Biden are potentially better than that, and
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I hope that the message they're going to get from
virtually every American is let's take the last three debates,
the vice presidential debate, two presidential debates, and let's turn
them into serious conversations, and let's insist that the moderators
ask serious adult questions and don't just play gotcha, and
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don't pick up off the latest life from the New
York Times, the latest smear for some other publication. And
I did not think it went well for anybody. I
don't know who will gain out of it. I think
on style, probably Biden did better. On substance, I think
Trump did dramatically better. I mean, when Biden can't recognize
that Antifa is an organization, he's got a problem. And
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I think there a whole series of things like that.
I originally started out to write about how these kind
of debates happen and how they occur and what they mean.
But the more I thought about it, that's not the
big story. The big story from last night is that
this was not an acceptable debate for the American people.
It wasn't the right tone. It's horrifying for foreigners. How
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can you rely on the most powerful nation of the
world when this ninety minute spectacle is how they're picking
their leaders. I'm going to be very blunt. Our leaders
owe us a more honest and more adult conversation. At
least That's where I'm coming from. And I'll look forward
to your questions in your comments, and maybe you can
help educate me, or if you think I'm way off,
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maybe you can tell me why I'm way off. Let's
take some questions when Crawford from California after last night's debate.
How would you prep President Trump and Vice President Pence
for their upcoming debates? What should the president do differently?
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They should talk to the American people, not to the moderator,
and not to their opponent. They should talk about big solutions,
big ideas, and they should system staying at that level.
And if their opponent wants to get down in the mud,
has pat them on the head. This isn't twenty sixteen.
Part of what has got Trump a little bit off
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track is in twenty sixteen, he was an outsider, he
was a newcomer. He was in a race with somebody
who was deeply disliked, and it was a brutal slugging match.
We're not there. The country's in much deeper trouble. People
feel they're in deeper trouble. People are much more anxiety written.
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They want reassurance. They want a sense that we have
leaders who know what they're doing and that will share
with us where we're going. We want to go on
this journey together. That's what a free society is all about.
And this really does concern me. I'm very concerned about
where we are right now. In a circle, member Keith guess,
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would there be value in having each candidate give opening
and closing statements in which anything can be discussed. Look,
I am very much opposed to the news media defined
and news media dominated debate system that has evolved. I
think it puts way too much power in the hands
of the reporters. They're not running for office, they're not
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going to be president, and they have no particular claim
to be the people who interrogate our potential leaders. So
I'd much prefer to have an opening and closing that
were totally controlled by the candidates, And frankly, I'd like
to see the candidates have a dialogue more than a debate,
have a conversation rather than yelling at each other. Larry
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wants to know if you think President Trump is cultural
on how to best debate on TV. I think President
Trump's very smart. He had very smart people like Chris
Christie coaching him, so it's not that they didn't do coaching,
but I think they went in there and misunderstood totally
both where the country is and what it would feel
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like to engage in that kind of combat. I do think,
by the way, that when you have an essentially liberal
commentator asking questions, if you're the Conservative candidate. You have
to go in recognizing it's going to be a two
to one against you, and that you have an obligation
to reach beyond where we are and not ever allow
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the newsperson to define the debate. So I think that's
almost guarantees a certain level of conflict. But that's why, frankly,
I'd like to see them find a totally different way
of doing these things. I think the Whole Debate Commission
is a bunch of self important people coming out of
the nineteen seventies. I dislike the Commission deeply. I think
the way they structure things is wrong, and I'd almost
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rather have random questions coming from the American people, which
you could certainly do in the modern age, rather than
from some reporter. Nancy asked what Senate races are too
close to call? Where are the real battlegrounds going on?
Lookin bunch of very exciting races on both sides. I
think the race in Michigan, where Jones is running as
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a Republican has a superb chance to win. I think
the race in Maine where Susan Collins is in the
fight of her life, but she has a long track
record as an independent thinker that really does kind of
fit Maine. Frankly, Colorado is a challenge. One of our
best candidates is the Senator Corey Gardner, but he's got
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a real tough race because Colorado has gradually grown much
more Democrat. We have a very good candidate in New
Mexico who was the weatherman down there, and he may
well pull off a real upset. I look around the country,
they're a bunch of these places. Iowa may be the
biggest fight of all. It's very interesting because I think
Joni Ernst is a great senator, a great candidate, but
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she's in a real fight, and the amount of money
the Democrats support into Iowa because it's the presidency, it's
a Tennessee and I think there are either three or
four House seats that are up where we could sweep
the state. And my friends and I will tell me
that they think we're very likely to sweep the state.
So those are some pretty good examples of very close
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races that are going to be exciting to watch on
election night. Sherry from Georgia has a great question, is
a concession required by the losing nominee if the outcome
is so close and no one wants to concede. Do
we not have a winner and have to wait till
someone gives up? No concessions not required. It doesn't really
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matter whether you concede. What matters is how many electors
get picked, and if you have two hundred and seventy electors,
you win. It's that straightforward. The real question is, given
all the things the Democrats are doing to change what's
going on, they're talking now, for example, about allowing ballots
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to come in nine days after the election, Well, then
figure out how long it's going to think, then to
count and verify them. So you could be talking about
not knowing who has carried a particular state until the
beginning of December. I mean, we're drifting towards a real nightmare.
I don't collect various news stories and state after state
where people are getting ballots they didn't ask for. Some
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people are getting two ballots. The whole thing is going
to be the messiest election process in American history is
coming right at us in November. To follow up on that,
Larne Bass, So what happens if the election isn't decided
on November third, what are the steps that happen after that? Well?
I think there are three phases. First of all, you
have devout count on November third. In the days that
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follow it, we just did a terrific podcast with Ted Cruz,
who has a new book out. And Cruz was on
the legal team in Florida in two thousand in the
Gore versus Bush campaign. He really lived through it. It
was thirty five days between the election and the Supreme
Court finally saying that Bush had won. One step is
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to simply upstraight out of lawsuits. I am told that
in Philadelphia alone, the Democrats have filed twenty four lawsuits
as placeholders. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm told by
lawyers what that means is you can then go back
in and file a real lawsuit for that placeholder, and
it puts you higher up on the docket, and therefore
you're more likely to be able to pick a judge
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you want. And so that could be a whole mess.
You see a lot of states tied up in court.
You then could see real contests about who actually won it.
You have to go back and ever recount. I mean,
imagine trying to recount a big state like California, and
then you have the question of are the enough electors
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for somebody to get two hundred and seventy electoral laws.
If that doesn't happen, then you would go to the
House of Representatives, which is an interestingly mixed bag because
in a presidential vote, state counts as one. So California,
which is huge, counts as one, and Wyoming, which is tiny,
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counts as one. The Republicans actually have more states than
the Democrats. But a good friend of mine, Bill Pets,
who used to be the Republican parliamentarian for Bob Michael,
has pointed out that they could simply gin up some
election challenges and refuse to seat four or five Republican
members and therefore give the Democrats a temporary majority in
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the House, and they could then pick the president. Hi,
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you willing tonight to condemn white supremacies and militia groups
and to say that they need to stand down and
not add to the violence and a number of these
cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen
in Portland. I'm willing to do anything. I want to
see peace and do it, sir, do it? Say it?
You want to call him? What do you want to
(17:20):
call him? Give me a name, give me a sum
and I like to stand back and stand by. Kathy
wants to know what your opinion is of white Trump
avoided the question to denounce white supremacy groups. I just
(17:41):
thought it was done for some reason. Trump couldn't bring
himself to just say I denounced this group. He did
denounce the Ku Klux Klan, and he has certainly denounced
white racists. That was probably his biggest misstep because it
gave the left something easy to hang on to. No,
there is no evidence if you look at his appointees,
if you look at the people he works with, if
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you look at the amount of energy he's putting into
the historically black colleges and universities. Certainly Trump is deeply
committed to an integrated United States. But I do think
that by not just being that blunt and that direct,
he set himself up for a little more pain, a
little more scarring up than he needed. Matt and Reny
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similar questions. Given all the news of the last couple
of days on the mail in ballot fraud, if you
are President Trump, how would you position teams nationwide, statewide,
countywide to prevent this great potential for voting fraud? Is
there anything he should be doing or thinking about? Well,
(18:46):
I think the Republican National Committee has a huge pole
watching program underway, and anybody listeners who wants to get
involved should check to see if they need pole watchers
in their community. I think the Republican lawyers have literally
hundreds and hundreds of lawyers lined up, and I think
the Justice Department, on behalf of getting to an honest election,
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will have people in the field looking at what's going
on and prepared to rest people if in fact anybody's
overtly breaking the law. So I think it'll be a
lot of effort, but we don't know though. When you
have these deals, like in Nevada, the governor and the
Democratic legislature have passed a law to send a ballot
to everybody in the state, whether they ask for it
(19:29):
or not, and the Post Office has already written them
a letter and said, if you do that, we know
there are two hundred thousand people who no longer live
in Nevada, and so you're going to be asking us
to send out two hundred thousand ballots, which are then
going to sit at a apartment house, so they're going
to sit at a condo, or they're going to sit
(19:49):
at a nursing home. And then the Culinary Union which
is the strongest democratic organization of the state. We'll go
around and pick them up, and you'll have ballot harvesting.
If the Democrats have their way, there will be no
signature verification, there'll be no way to prove who voted,
and there'll be a total mess. And every day that
goes by, we see more stories from New York, from Pennsylvania,
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from other places indicating how bad this is going to be.
George is very worried about the election being stolen this year.
He shared with us he's eighty five and this is
his seventeenth presidential election. He wants to know how we
stopped the flow of money into the anarchy groups, especially corporations,
behind lawlessness and political disorder. Why was an action brought
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against Soros? Well, I think that when you're talking about
groups like Antifa, which has been designated as a terrorist group,
there is a provision in federal law that if you're
donating money to a terrorist group, we can prosecute you,
And so I would say that there are a number
of places like that where that's the way we should,
in fact approach it. I don't know that Black Lives
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Matter as an organization is and quite the same overt
being outside the law, but certainly some elements of it are.
And I think that we do have a right as
a country to protect ourselves from people who want to
use violence and want to tear down and burn down buildings, etc.
This is the first year we've really had this scale
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of organized, systematic looting and burning things and violence. We're
gradually going to respond to it. The average person does
not want to live in a neighborhood where criminals can
go around and coerce you and tell you to do
what they tell you to do, or they'll hurt you.
So I do think you'll see a continuing consolidation of
that tim from Nevada as states like California have voting
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laws like ballot harvesting, which Democrats use to their great
advantage in twenty eighteen. What prevents Republicans from doing the
same and taking advantage of those laws. Not much, except
that crons are much more likely to go into a
nursing home and gather up everybody's ballot and cast it
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for them. Republicans tend to be kind of goody goodies,
and so they play by much stricter rules, and they
try to do what the rules call on them to do,
and a lot of Democrats want power, and if that
means they have to fudge on the rules, they just
fudge on the rules. I think it's that straightforward. Steve
from Washington wants to know why does the report on
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Hunter Biden get so little attention? He read the complete
report and it was shocking. We've tweeted out the Center
report on Hunter Biden, and we've also had it, i
think on our show page at Newts World. It's eighty
five pages long and it raises questions like why did
the richest woman in Russia send Hunter Biden a billion
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three hundred million dollars? And you can raise all these
questions and all that. Joe Biden says as well, I
really wasn't paying attention or now hundred Biden flew to
China with his father on Air Force two. He got
to deal with the Chinese who are going to invest
a billion, three hundred million dollars which he was going
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to manage. Now, I mean, is there anybody at all
who believes that if your son or daughter got a billion,
three hundred million dollars deal with the Chinese, that they
wouldn't have come home and told you. I think Senator
Ron Johnson has done a great job of laying it out,
and I think there's more stuff coming in the next
week or so. But if you just want to get
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a sense of how bad this is, that's a great
way to do it. I would have walked off the
stage at certain times and said, until you can actually
make sure that we abide by the rules, I'm not
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going to be a part of this charade. That was
a hot mess, inside a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck.
That was the worst debate I have ever seen. And
it wasn't even a debate. It was a disgrace. That
was a show. That is really the only phrase that
I can think of to really describe it. High nude.
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I'm your fellow Pennsylvanian and campaign worker here in Georgia
back in the eighties and nineties. Do you consider that
the debate moderators should have the capacity to turn off
the mic or a speaker that interrupts or severely overruns
has a lot of time. No, because I totally distrust
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the moderators. I think they would use it on conservatives
and never use it on liberals. I knew it. I
would like to know whether or not you think that
the protest or groups like BLM and Antifa actually don't
want Biden to win because if he did, that would
take away the reason the protests, because you never notice
them showing any signs of supporting Biden when they're protesting.
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Thank you. That's a good question. I would say they
would love to have Biden win because he would be
so weak that they would dominate. Remember, they're perfectly happy
to have left wing mayors in Seattle and Portland, and
left wing district attorneys and a totally insane left wing
mayor in New York and de Blasio. So I think
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they'd be happy to have Biden because if Biden would
be so anti police and so pro criminal that it
will be just four years of people who are dangerous
dominating the country. All right, The next person that is Mark. Mark,
if you could unit your microphone and ask your question
about Speaker Pelosi. One of the things that I'm concerned
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about if this goes to the Congress and the Congress
ultimately decides who is President of the United States going forward,
what kind of role, what kind of power Nancy Pelosi
play in the process. Well, depending on how ruthless they
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want to be if it actually ends up going into
the House, which is where you would pick the president.
I could imagine a circumstance where they would deliberately not
seat Republicans to make sure that they had a majority
to elect the president. I think that's very possible. Who
lived through a recount in nineteen eighty five in Indiana
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nine where there were thirty votes outstanding when their candidate
was up by nine they quit counting and just said,
we're not going to look at the rest of the ballots.
We're done. I know that in Minnesota, the only reason
Franken got in office was after he had lost an
election night somebody magically found an automobile trunk filled with
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ballots that happened to be heavily for Franken. So I
think they are desperate to get power back. I think
they are very afraid of what a Trump's second term
would be like. And I think that it really is
a situation where I would certainly not like to see
us in a House of Representatives dominated by Nancy Pelosi
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making these kinds of life and death decisions about the
very nature of our government. What do you think of
Biden's lack of response last night on the question regarding
packing the Supreme Court. Well, I don't think he wants
to say it. Look, I think Biden's entire strategy is
to try to not be controversial, let the news media
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beat up Trump and win as the not Trump. And
so I think to the degree that he defines anything,
he makes it easier for Trump to shoot at him.
So his whole goal is to rope a dope all
the way to election day and hope that between the
news media and Trump's personality that there will be a
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majority for buy because he's this nice, pleasant guy who
doesn't do anything. That's the only strategy I can make
out of what they're doing. Thank you, Nude just wanted
to know why the President didn't lay out his healthcare plan.
I cannot answer that. The White House has a lot
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of good things to do. In fact, Joe Desanis and
I just published an article on the Trump health plan
laying out item after item after item that they've done
that are terrific. And he did refer to it a
couple times in terms of lowering the cost of drugs
and other things. Mentioned diabetes at one point, But I
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think it's part of the whole way that they approached
this debate, which I think just turned out to be wrong.
But they prepared to come to the debate talk about
what they had achieved and talk about what they were
going to achieve, and stayed at that level. The contrast
between them and Biden would have been devastating. The number
of people I've talked to who could walk after fifteen
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minutes because it was too painful, Well, that's really bad
for America. Thank you to my guests, the founding members
of my Inner Circle Club. You can become a member
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