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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are now Angelo what I call her Ye?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's up? Its way up with Angela Yee. Yeah, And
it is a Wednesday, so you know what that means
up here. It is a Wealth Wednesday. And we got
a fun throwback for you guys today Cheryl Lee Ralph.
So congratulations to her. This was actually one of my
favorite interviews. But just recently they announced that she's getting
a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, which, by

(00:35):
the way, I cannot believe that she does not already
have that star, but she does have a book out.
She gets all these accolades. Abbot Elementary is one of
the best shows on television right now. Dispute it all right,
So she's going to be joining us today, and of
course there's plenty of music. It is a Wealth Wednesday.
But we also know that y'all are having a good time.

(00:55):
Some people are on vacation this week and some people
are not. But regardless, we know music is what makes
us have a good time and have fun. And to
be honest with y'all, like, since we started doing this
way up at Angela Ye's show, I haven't taken any
breaks and I've been going on stot BT Awards Essence Festival.
You know, a lot more things are on the way,

(01:17):
but I'm loving it. And just like when I interviewed
Chessia last week, she says she loves her job, so
it doesn't feel like works so much. I totally agree
with that. So I care about you guys. I want
to make sure we keep it entertained. And let's also
stay in contact. And now what that means is you
can always call me up eight hundred and two ninety two
fifty one fifty. You can leave a message even if

(01:39):
I'm not here, if you can't get through during the show,
after the show, on the weekend, whatever it is that
you want to do. You can also if you're on
the iHeartRadio app, click that mic right and you can
talk back. So that means you go to the show,
you click talk back. There's a little microphone up there
and you can leave a message that way. Either way,
we're gonna hear it. So we appreciate you, guys, We

(01:59):
love you. Let's get into it. Let's shine a light
on them. Of course, we gotta spread some positivity, as
we do every single day, every single morning. Eight hundred
two nine fifty one fifty no better way to start
your day than's spreading some love. It's way up with
Angela ye. Shine the light next, you're gonna light the
fuck up. I'm shine a ma shine.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Turn your lights on, y'all, find your light. So spreading
love to those who are doing greatness.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Shine the light on them, shine a light on.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's time to shine a light on them.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
What up, guys, It's way up with Angela yee. And
this is one of my favorite things to do is
show some love. Spread some love to people doing positive things.
It's shine a light on them. Eight hundred and two
ninety two fifty one fifty Who do you want to
shine a light on?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
How are you? Who do you want to shine a
light on?

Speaker 6 (02:51):
I would light on my debt? Actually, okay, I am a
recent widow taking care of my daughter and a business
iman and PW of myself. I've been doing have an
emotional day.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Sorry, Oh it's okay, big How old is your daughter?
She's seven? Where you guys located?

Speaker 7 (03:16):
Like?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
What city?

Speaker 8 (03:18):
Enna?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
All right? And well, I'm so sorry to hear about that.
But you know, like you said, you're taking care of
your seven year old daughter, Mayna, we should send her
a gift for her daughter.

Speaker 9 (03:28):
Definitely, because you know, you're not only living for yourself
what you're living for her. And yeah, you know that's
something that you know, we all deal with and it's
never easy, you know, But I will just tell you that,
you know, keep you know, the memories and the good things,
keep that at the forefront, forefront of your mind.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
You know, keep all of it good, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, at least you have, you know, some amazing things
to remember a memory.

Speaker 6 (03:55):
We weren't married yet, but he was not Beyonce. We're
both chef okay very not favorite, but very predominantly known
chefs wherever we worked at And I'm also at home baker,
have my own business, and I'm just trying to do
what I can. I promote my grief and share my

(04:17):
journey on my Instagram page because you know, it's hard.
Black people don't really grieve and holding their emotions and
mental issues. Want to break that curve. Chef Tja the
h e F TJ duvs.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay have TJ doves.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, I try to share my journey because you know,
Black people have a hearted time grieving and dealing with
a lot of grief and mental issues and I just
want to make sure that I'm a good advocate for
that change.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, it sounds like you and your journeyed to spy day.
We should do a spy day for you at the
One Hotel. Remember we stayed at the One Hotel before,
so I think that'd be nice. You're in Nashville, right, Yeah,
all right, We're gonna set something up. We're gonna hit
you up.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
And take and take as much time as you need
grieving though.

Speaker 6 (05:07):
I do one day, one minute.

Speaker 9 (05:09):
At the time, all right, take yeah, one step at
a time, and one day at a time, take as
much time as you need.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
I appreciate that. Okay, we love you, chef, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Love you to our fans out, good morning, good.

Speaker 10 (05:21):
Morning, good morning.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Who do you want to shine a light on?

Speaker 11 (05:25):
Listen.

Speaker 10 (05:25):
I want to shout a light shot a light on
the abundance of black men that are right now coming
to me for therapy. So I'm a licensed mental health
therapist and I got I just got an abundance of
them for the past two weeks. So I just want
to shout alight out to all these individuals that's investing
in the mental wealth. So shout out to all y'all

(05:46):
and shout out to you Andrew.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Where can people find you?

Speaker 10 (05:50):
Absolutely, you can find me. You can find me on
the ground at Kansa Therapist, right Time Medical Associates, Brightside Counseling, Google, Afaronzo,
Nathan and I will definitely help you be able to
find you know, some help for mental health needs.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
All right, I'm gonna pass this on to Mano.

Speaker 10 (06:06):
Absolutely let him know I thought what I thought. A
lot of artists love, so you know what I mean.
That's no problem, all right, But I appreciate you. I
appreciate everything I do and make sure everyone is investing
in a mental wealth protecting adage.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, we appreciate you. Thank you for calling.

Speaker 10 (06:19):
Absolutely have a going all right?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, that would shine a light on them. And if
you couldn't get through, that number is eight hundred two
nine two fifty one fifty. It's all day long. Anytime
you want to shine a light, we are here for it. Okay,
bad And we got a lot of fun things for
you on the show, a lot of great music to
make sure you keep it locked as way up with
Angela yee.

Speaker 12 (06:37):
This is a judgment freeze on.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Tell us a secret, what's up? Its way up at Angela, yee.
And part of this show is not just showing love
but also not judging you. Okay, So well I can
do that. I don't know if everyone does it. Some
people love here be showing judgment when they co host.
But I will say it is nice to be able

(06:59):
to get those secrets out there into the world. Sometimes
it's a burden lifted off of you. Sometimes y'all just entertaining.
Eight hundred two ninety two fifty one fifty is the number.
And remember you are anonymous, and remember there is no judgment. Okay,
it's way up at Angela. Ye tell us a secret.
Eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty Hello, Anonymous,
color what up?

Speaker 7 (07:20):
So?

Speaker 13 (07:21):
I don't want no judgment on it. You know it's
nothing really a judge.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Though, may no no here? This is okay, no judgment, may.

Speaker 11 (07:27):
No exactly maya.

Speaker 13 (07:29):
So I got two other kids that don't nobody know
about that.

Speaker 11 (07:34):
Ain't funny?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Are you laughing?

Speaker 11 (07:36):
No?

Speaker 13 (07:38):
You know, ain't nothing crazy.

Speaker 14 (07:39):
You know.

Speaker 13 (07:40):
I send them stuff here and there when I can
get this though they don't even live here. Me and
my friends don't. I'll say, probably once every six months
down to Dr.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh they live in Dr.

Speaker 13 (07:51):
Yep, down in dr.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
You paid for that.

Speaker 13 (07:54):
So the chief.

Speaker 11 (07:55):
Picks me up.

Speaker 13 (07:56):
The next time I'm there, he was like, hey, pregnant.
I said no.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
She's like, yes, did you get a test?

Speaker 13 (08:04):
No, didn't get no test. She just said she's like,
I need your passport. I was like, no, you're not
getting my passport.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
So you had twins. You had twins, so look have
one with her?

Speaker 13 (08:15):
Another ship told me down there, now this is probably
they're probably scamming for real. I don't know how true
it is.

Speaker 9 (08:20):
They from Dall, they're from d So you went and
purchased you a situation and then and then went and
had kids something like that.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But you don't know. But sure these are your kids.

Speaker 13 (08:31):
I won't lie. The one looked like the other one,
don't The one looks very similar.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
One of them is definitely for.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
One of them. Definitely are you going to get a test?

Speaker 13 (08:43):
I was gonna send them if they want me to
send them.

Speaker 10 (08:44):
I don't even have a problem. You know, do you
have anything?

Speaker 13 (08:48):
Eighty dollars go a long way.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Do you have any kids here in the states where
you live? Do you have any children?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (08:55):
I got I got two kids you.

Speaker 9 (08:58):
Make they got and they got they got to have
Dominican brothers and sisters.

Speaker 13 (09:02):
I wouldn't care. You know, they can ask me for it.

Speaker 10 (09:04):
I would give it to them.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I'll take care of But it's the going for me.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
That's that's no judgment, no judgment. Know, it's no judgment.

Speaker 13 (09:14):
Okay, right, judge somebody on here.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
That's the fact. He said, you stayed judging somebody really
know you've been.

Speaker 9 (09:22):
Of course I did, of course I did.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Keep it on thought. Let me ask you this, when
all this having been you know, said and done, are
you gonna from now on use condoms? Are you still doing? You?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
No?

Speaker 13 (09:40):
No, that hey, I might as well not even do it.
I'm wanna put one on.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh thanks for sharing, Thanks for sharing. I don't want
to judge.

Speaker 15 (09:52):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Wow, the phone line was burning. Does what what's an
anonymous college? Tell us a secret.

Speaker 14 (10:06):
Anthema, okay, girl, I'm getting a radio station every morning.
But one of my secret kids that I sep want
to marry man and I feel like his wife should know.
He comes to me every day every morning.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
I'm trying to figure out where is.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
His wife at every morning? Does he ever spend the night.

Speaker 14 (10:24):
Every morning he's waking up brushing his teeth colors from me.

Speaker 12 (10:28):
When does he go to work after?

Speaker 5 (10:31):
I'm trying to figure that out.

Speaker 14 (10:32):
But I know that he has the wife and he
has kids, and me being young and probably younger.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Free, he loves it, and so you want his wife
to know.

Speaker 14 (10:42):
I want her to know because I want to be
with him.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh, you want to be with you and you know
he's gonna do the same thing to you. Does everybody
tell you that?

Speaker 13 (10:49):
No?

Speaker 14 (10:50):
But right now he's been all for me. So I
feel like, why not?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
No judgment, Angela, Okay, I'm just I'm just trying to
help her.

Speaker 13 (11:00):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Hi, how long have you been having your situation?

Speaker 14 (11:03):
It's like a half mone So I feel like you
should just go ahead and killer.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
So let me ask yes, let me ask you. Yeah,
how are you gonna feel though when he's with his
wife and kids if he left them for you? But
he is going to have to see his kids?

Speaker 14 (11:19):
I mean the kids is okay? I love kids. Okay,
it was to do it right now for me to
meet the kids. But long did people with her? I'm okay?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
How long were they married or were sorry? How long
have they been married.

Speaker 14 (11:31):
About ten years, so I think it's time for him
to change it up and slice too with a young
cat like me.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, what does he say when you have you told
them that you want him to tell his wife and
leave her.

Speaker 14 (11:41):
Yeah, he just say it's not the right time and
he not ready.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
But I mean, are you seeing anyone else?

Speaker 8 (11:49):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Are you faithful to this married man?

Speaker 14 (11:52):
I have a love fun but that's the one I
really actually liked the most.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Okay, he's at the top of the list. All right, well,
no judgment, Thank you for sharing.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Luck.

Speaker 14 (12:00):
Thank you by y'all. Bye.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I really feel like you were co signing that you
said no judgment. I'm saying good luck. I did I say,
well you that's a yes sign. No, what's eponymous? Color?
Tell us a secret?

Speaker 8 (12:18):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
What's good? No judgment?

Speaker 8 (12:21):
Like twenty years ago, I had an affair with the
older woman. Uh, fast forward, I'm dating her daughter in
the house engaged.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Wow, so the mom never told her? You never told?

Speaker 8 (12:35):
And her mom like been playing professional the whole time,
like polk her face like it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
So and the thing in my mind is like, is
her daughter the same way, like you know, like, I
don't know how don you haven't said anything either? Are
you the same way? As you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 8 (12:55):
I mean, I mean, I'm definitely a dog or I
was a dog at the point, And I don't how
do you even bring that up? Like I don't even know,
you know, honestly, how to you know?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So you had sex with twenty years ago?

Speaker 13 (13:09):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yes, yes, twenty years ago. Who's Who's who has better sex?
The fiance or the mom? I feel so bad asking,
but I would like to know.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
I mean, honestly, uh, me and her mom.

Speaker 10 (13:21):
It was it was, it was a thing.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
It was so it was maybe like five or six times.
It was crazy because I was I think I was
young and the pression he put the moves on me
as a as a kid, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
It was the jagger, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
It was kind of memorable, Okay, because he was young.
It was probably exciting back then. She's the older woman,
he wasn't so experienced. Well, she probably does not want
her daughter to know, though, I'm sure that she was doing.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
That, And honestly, I feel that way, and I feel
like she's totally embarrassed and she's still with she's still
with her husband. I think they were estranged at the time.

Speaker 10 (13:56):
But together.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think you got it.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Just my business on this one, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
But then if it ever comes to light, then then
just say no, that never happened. That wasn't me.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
It was Ai it Ai.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, twenty years ago, Ai, it was you helped launch it.

Speaker 11 (14:18):
Yeah, total recall.

Speaker 10 (14:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Look, we're not here to judge me. Thank you for sharing,
good luck.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Fine, all right, Well that was tell us a secret,
and remember the phone lines are always open for you
to call in and leave that anonymous secret with us.
Eight hundred two nine fifty one fifty is a number.
It's way up with Angela. Ye, tell us a secret?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Kai everybody since with its relationship for career advice, Angela's
dropping facts.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Should you should know? This is ask what's up? Its
way up for Angela yee, and it is time for
ask ye. Eight hundred two ninety two fifty one fifty
is a number in case you ever want to call
us for any questions. We are always here to help
with no judgment. Hey, what's that? How are you?

Speaker 11 (14:58):
I'm all right, I'm all right pushing through. How about yourself, I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Good, Thank you with your name? Okay, Tay, what's your
question for asking you?

Speaker 11 (15:06):
When exactly do you know when is the right time
frame to get married?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Okay, that's a good question. That's a loaded question. How
long have you been with your significant other?

Speaker 11 (15:16):
Seven years?

Speaker 4 (15:17):
You don't know yet.

Speaker 11 (15:21):
Look, it's some you know, it's a complications, just like
everybody else.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know, what are the complications?

Speaker 16 (15:29):
When we met, I was already with a female, and
so I had to wing off that female and let
that female know, hey, no, you're not it.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Okay. How long did that take?

Speaker 15 (15:42):
Like a year?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
That's a long weeding off period. Okay. So in the meantime,
this was your The woman that you're with now was
kind of your side piece.

Speaker 11 (15:51):
She was at first.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
She didn't Did she know that she was your side piece?

Speaker 11 (15:55):
She didn't at first. But he's married with four children.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
She's married with four children. Now he's married, and you
want to marry her. You want to marry her?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Wait now or at that time? At that time, at
that time, she was married. Oh oh okay, So how
long has she been divorced?

Speaker 11 (16:15):
For about a year now? We just got the papers done.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Okay, it takes a while to get a divorce, right,
So you were both each other side pieces, Yeah, exactly,
there you go. Okay, secret lovers. Have you guys been
discussing marriage with each other?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (16:32):
And no?

Speaker 16 (16:33):
And the reason why I say yes or no is
because our families are not even on the best terms.

Speaker 11 (16:39):
So we can't I can't even be like, you know,
bring so and so how are we going to be
the wedding ceremony or anything like that. I can't. I
can't even go that far.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, she's only been divorced for a year. Why do
you feel like you need to be thinking about marriage?

Speaker 11 (16:54):
I don't think that I want marriage because I know
for a fact how I am it are uh, you know,
like having an emotional tie to a person, how are you?

Speaker 15 (17:06):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (17:07):
I can't be played with, basically, That's what I mean. Like,
I can't be played with?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 11 (17:13):
So basically, if I'm if I'm sitting in the same
room with this person but ten years straight and the
same person knows every.

Speaker 16 (17:19):
Single button to press, that's that's dangerous. It could either
be dangerous or you know, really good for you. That's
what I mean by all right, if this person basically
knows your fuse.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, I would hope that nobody would weaponize the things
that are triggers against you if that's somebody that you love.
So what it sounds like to me is you're not
ready to get married. That's what I'm hearing, right, And I.

Speaker 11 (17:43):
Just don't want to jump the gun right, and I
just don't want to jump onto it too fast. Well
do I know from in fact? I know for a
fact that you know everybody has someone for them.

Speaker 10 (17:57):
It's just take the right time.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I think y'all should stay each other pieces for a while.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
He's single, Well they're together, yeah, but just.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Still act like side pieces.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Does she want to get married?

Speaker 15 (18:08):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (18:09):
She does. It's like a pressure at this point.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Where I'm well, yeah, you can't anybody pressure you into
doing something you don't want to do. It sounds like
you're not there, And I think you don't want to
have some type of bitterness toward her because she pressures
you into something that you're not ready for and you
have every night, every right not to be ready to
do that. I mean, she's only been divorced for a year,
like you said, there's a line in it you said

(18:33):
she has four kids kids?

Speaker 4 (18:34):
How many kids you got on your own?

Speaker 11 (18:36):
I'm now I have a dog.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
That's a lot. You're going to be living with them kids,
them kids, did you daddy?

Speaker 11 (18:43):
I'm telling you, I've been doing that this whole time,
and it's like, I don't I don't want to be.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Able to say, like what they really do to me
over the era.

Speaker 11 (18:53):
But the twenty three full beard, Oh yeah, they don't
have full time jobs. They like right next door tores.
So you know, how can you You can't even you
can't even you know.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
Married.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
What you really need to do is run. I got
to say, look, look talking about age.

Speaker 11 (19:16):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you it's either it's either
it's either the biggest heartbreak of the world or I
found the one.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
I would get out of it.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
But take your time, okay, because I don't think you
should get married until you feel excited and want to
do it.

Speaker 11 (19:34):
That's right, that's right, that's right. So my question, my
question before I go, is this all right? So let's
say you do.

Speaker 16 (19:45):
You find the one, and then y'all both say I
got fifty dollars in my bank account. This other person
got five hundred dollars in their bank account. How do
you physically know that this person is not going to
marry you for money? Because I want to be able to.
I want to be able to say, hey, I'm both
And you can go down to this court office and
final papers.

Speaker 10 (20:04):
And you showed me, you proved me.

Speaker 11 (20:06):
You prove each other that we work each other time,
we work each other money, to work each other every day.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
But you can't have approve that. But I can say
you can't protect yourself. Definitely, make sure you get a
pre enough, all right. Make sure that you know each
other's credit. It is really important to know each other's
finances before you get married. Make sure you know what
her credit score is because that will affect your credit
score if you're gonna get married. Make sure you know
her financial situation. Marriage is a business. You're signing a
contract that's gonna affect your credit and your finances. So

(20:34):
make sure you guys have a really open conversation about that.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
It's right, and let nobody take your five hundred bro or.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Your fifty All right, Well, listen, lot, good luck, But
it sounds like you're not sure and from what I'm
getting this, ain't it right now? Not to say that
it can't be later, but right now you're not ready.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
You're right, You're right, And I greatly appreciate everything.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'll watch it.

Speaker 11 (20:57):
I hear y'all every morning. Man, y'all get me up.
Not the reason why we go in the morning. I
appreciate y'all.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
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Speaker 3 (21:25):
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Speaker 2 (21:34):
All right, it is way up with Angela Yee. I'm here,
Jasmine brand is here with me. Yes, and I'm a
little nervous. Can I say that? You can't?

Speaker 7 (21:41):
You? Right?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Viewed everybody?

Speaker 8 (21:42):
So you're nervous?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right? Well, sir, Lee Ralph is here and we
are going to be talking about a lot of things.
But it's an honor, you know, to be sitting with
a true diva as you are.

Speaker 12 (21:53):
A divinely inspired, victoriously a live woman.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yes, we have to make sure we put that out there.
Don't worry. We were going to ask you about that, because,
like you said, for some reason, diva gets this bad
connotation sometimes, you know, they always.

Speaker 17 (22:07):
Think of somebody that's got bad attitude, negativity all around her,
and it's just so about her asks in life and
takes no shame in the fact that, of course I
hit her.

Speaker 12 (22:21):
I hit her with my open hand. You know, Will
Smith's got nothing on me.

Speaker 13 (22:26):
You know.

Speaker 12 (22:26):
It's they always think of Diva like that. That's it's
not supposed to be there.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
We love the timely example you just gave me. She's
right on point right, but Diva two point oh, this
book is out and it's amazing. First of all, thank you,
and we didn't even introduce you properly. We didn't forgot
to say Emmy Award winning thank you. Sheryl Lee Ralph
from Abbot Elementary also which, by the way, that show
is one of the best shows on television right now.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
No no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 17 (22:53):
Abbot Elementary is the best show on television right now.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
And you're my role is amazing on there. It's so
funny because you're like the best teacher, but also it's
so hard for you to like own up to certain
things that like when you set the fire in the school.

Speaker 12 (23:11):
I owned up to that. I did okay at.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That end, thank you a little bit. It took a
moment school too.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
But I love that because we all had a teacher
like that.

Speaker 17 (23:23):
Everybody says that, And I think that's what makes Barbara
Howard so loved by people, is they all think of
that teacher that they had that really poured into them,
that teacher that really believed in them.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know, she might not remember you, but you'll never
forget her. Yeah, did you have teachers like that?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (23:44):
My god, my dad was a lifelong learner and a teacher.
My auntie Carolyn, a reluctant teacher turned principal Blue Ribbon
school in Washington.

Speaker 16 (23:53):
D C.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Didn't someone come visit her?

Speaker 17 (23:56):
Oh my god, the queen and not Latifa, It came
to sit her. The actual Queen came to visit her. Okay,
the queen, the other queen. There you go that part
You know I met the other day, did you?

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (24:12):
I saw her at the Vanity Fair party. Baby, let
me tell you. I went to some parties, Yes you have,
and I saw some people.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Everyone wants to beat take pictures with you now, But
it's on a.

Speaker 12 (24:25):
Whole nother thing. Now, it's way up.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That way up.

Speaker 12 (24:32):
And Sunday night, this Sunday night.

Speaker 17 (24:35):
At the Vanity Fair party, everybody who was anybody was
in the room.

Speaker 12 (24:40):
But it was the gold party.

Speaker 17 (24:44):
Oh honey, that's set the gold standard. Let me tell you,
first of all, when you walk into this room, if
you're there, you already are a VI P Kardashians and
all of that stuff all over the place.

Speaker 12 (25:00):
But when the Golden Child, Miss Beyonce entered the room,
I'm not.

Speaker 17 (25:08):
Really you know, taken back by too many people, right,
I'm sure, But Beyonce walked right up to me with
her beautiful open arms and was so lovely in her
welcoming of me.

Speaker 12 (25:24):
But it doesn't stop there. Okay.

Speaker 17 (25:27):
I don't know if anybody has seen Beyonce lately, Okay, but.

Speaker 12 (25:32):
The face on this woman, oh my god, the woman
has a glow.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I had to tell her.

Speaker 12 (25:43):
I said, darling, you're just getting better with time.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
And I really meant it.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Right, because she really is.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
What did she say when he said that, She just.

Speaker 17 (25:52):
Took it in and she said thank you, and it
was in a genuine thank you. Then she happened to
tell my son how handsome he was. He almost died
and went to have I was like, please, honey, stay alive,
stay alive. It was but it was amazing. And then
you know, jay Z chose me for the NFL lift

(26:13):
every voice and sing. So I said to jay Z
when I met him, and first of all, I have
to tell you, he's much better looking in person. And
I said, jay Z, why me? Why did you choose
me for that moment? And he looked at me with
this incredulous look, and he was like as if he
were saying why you. He was like me, of course

(26:34):
it was you, and you were great. He said that
song will never be the same, and I was like,
oh my god. You know when your children just look
at you and I loving on you and giving you
your flowers because I'm everybody's mother in my head and
all of my children do well.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I was just like, look at this wonderful look and
look at you're scared. Oh thank you, yeah, thank yours.

Speaker 12 (27:00):
You make you I like to take care of myself.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I can see thank you. And I know early on
when you talk about Dreamgirls, because that was the big success,
but also you didn't foresee what that could have meant
for you financially at the time. So discuss that, because
that's something in the book that you talk about. I
always felt that dream Girls was going to be a
big hit. I always felt that.

Speaker 12 (27:25):
But we were young.

Speaker 17 (27:27):
I mean, we were like twenty when we started, twenty
three and then I turned twenty four a week after
opening night. And when you're young and you don't know
a whole lot, you do crazy things like sell away
your rights for a dollar a dollar. To this day,
I haven't gotten a check from the magnificence that is

(27:49):
dream Girls, and it hurts me to my heart.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
Now.

Speaker 17 (27:53):
The cast of chorus Line, they went through the same
development process that we did, They signed the same contract,
they filed a class action suit they won. But for
whatever reason, the cast of Dreamgirls.

Speaker 12 (28:09):
Chose not to do that. Is it ever too late
to do that? I don't know if it's ever too late.

Speaker 17 (28:15):
But sometimes I tell you, I look back at it
and I said, I have regained and captured everything the
devil took from me.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Definitely, yes, thank you, But I also don't see why
people don't go for what wanted to do them. And
also why on the other side they don't want to
do the right thing. They made so much money, why
not even if it was just a small, tiny percentage,
just that as a gesture to say, we see you,
we appreciate what you contributed. We know you signed a

(28:45):
bad deal that you shouldn't have signed. Let's make this right.

Speaker 12 (28:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 17 (28:49):
I wish and I say to this day, because only
one of them is alive out of that original creative company,
I say, maybe someone will do that.

Speaker 12 (29:00):
He was probably about the principles.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, it is love it. Well. Fortunately, like you said,
you have recaptured everything that you should have. But I
just feel like I'm a big, like the right thing
to do type of person.

Speaker 17 (29:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know that's why you're going way up here we
go exactly. It's way up with Angela Yee and Cheryl Lee.
Ralph is here and we have a lot more with her.
She has her book out right now. Diva two point oh,
and we'll be back with some more On Way Up.
I had a dream of wealthy and I don't mind
sharing my wealth dog.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Getting you straight financially, mentally, and physically. This is wealth
Wednesday on Way Up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
What's up? It's way up with Angela Yee. And we
are serious today, Cheryl Lee. Ralph is in the building.
And I think about some of the experiences that you
went through from moving Diva two point oh, going to
a school that was an all white school for a
period of time and feeling not beautiful. What was that
experience like? Because I remember going from public school to
private school too and how hard that was for me.

Speaker 17 (29:58):
But I can't even imagine and what you went through.
When I think about it now, it still hurts. Oh
my god, the way they treated you at times. And
this was not just kids, this was adults as well,
and worse than that, in my mind, these were women
of gods. These were God's handmaidens, the nuns, and the

(30:19):
way they treated me at times, I will never forget
one time, whoo Mother Superior. Okay, I went downstairs, I
had piano less and I won't tell you at all
because you can read it in Diva two point zero
available wherever it is you get your books. I went
down for my piano lesson. My dad was a very
accomplished pianist, and I didn't practice. That woman looked at

(30:44):
me and she said, I don't have to take students
like you, and it was the you, and she took
her hand and she slammed the lid of the piano down.
And I don't know what made me pull my hands back,
but that lady was going to break my fingers. And
I went upstairs to my class, which was literally just upstairs.

Speaker 12 (31:07):
My class was gone.

Speaker 17 (31:09):
I walk over to Mother Superior's office. I said, Mother Superior,
my class is gone. Mother Superior looks at me and
tells me that liars will not be tolerated here and.

Speaker 12 (31:21):
There will be consequences for my lying.

Speaker 17 (31:25):
I walked behind Mother Superior to my classroom and she
looked at me and then opened the door.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
There was nobody there.

Speaker 12 (31:35):
Mother Superior told me, then go home. This is the
middle of the day.

Speaker 17 (31:40):
Then I have to walk home and it's three miles
and it's the sixties. Everybody has lost their mind. They
think I've been kidnapped. The school cannot tell them where
I am. They know nothing. And of course back then
your parents were confused. You're lost, and then you get meat, right,
So I was.

Speaker 12 (32:00):
I after all of his I got beaten again. Okay,
my spirit was beaten. Then I got beaten.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Oh were you?

Speaker 17 (32:07):
I think this was fourth grade. So I'm like eight
years old. I'm young, and I'll never ever forget that.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Now.

Speaker 12 (32:17):
Icing on the Cake was years later.

Speaker 17 (32:19):
Okay, years later, I'm gonna say maybe two three years later.
And we'd moved and we came back and there was
mother Saint Peter Mora walking down the street, the young
woman who had slammed the lad of the piano, and
she looked at me and she apologized to me. Wow,
she apologized. She said, you know, I am so sorry.

(32:40):
I did not know then what I know now, and
I apologize and she came down to my eye level
to apologize to me. So I've had that happen several
times in my life where people have made certain mistakes,
but they have come back to say I'm sorry, which
which in some ways it helps heal the hurt.

Speaker 12 (33:00):
But not all the way because it happened.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
And that is one of your lessons, right to not
hold on to those. That's your way to go. That's right.

Speaker 12 (33:07):
Do not let other people's negativity become yours.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's way up with Angela Yee and Sharyl Lee Ralph
is here with us now. Normally ask ye is next?
But I feel like this is an icon living shery
Lee Ralph, so let's get more schery Lee Ralph instead
of asking. On Way Up with Angela Yee had a
dream of wealthy and I don't mind sharing my wealth dog.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Getting you straight financially, mentally and physically. This is wealth Wednesday,
on Way Up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
What's up? It's way up with Angela Yee and Cheryl
Lee Ralph is here. And one thing I wanted to
ask you about in the book and you kind of
you didn't get into detail about it. You talk about
the Me Too movement and you even said an experience
where a promoter like put his hand on your leg
and that would happen at times, right, And I noticed
that you didn't get into detail about it. But do
you feel like that's something that a has had any

(33:55):
effect on your career in any way at all? And
be that you would at some point get more into
detailout because it is, like you said, with the Me
Too movement and that happening all the time, that's a
hard thing for women to even speak up about.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
Hence I didn't say a whole lot about it.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, and not like detailing names are who it is,
but just even the effect that that has on you,
because it's horrible.

Speaker 17 (34:17):
Yeah, because it's like, I can think about these things
and I tell you, there was one incidence where it
was like the third time something like this had happened
to me, and I thought to myself, what did I
do to deserve that?

Speaker 12 (34:33):
My skirt is at my knees, I have on a
sweater blouse. What made this man think that he could
just come over and put his hands on my body
in front of it? He didn't know me.

Speaker 17 (34:51):
Years later, I was in a situation that man walked
through the door. He sat down at the table across
from me.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
He didn't remember any of this, but I had to
let him know what he did that nighted him.

Speaker 12 (35:07):
Oh, I absolutely confronted.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
He was right there.

Speaker 12 (35:11):
Do you want to know what was the shocking part?

Speaker 17 (35:14):
Everybody around the table was appalled that I would stand
up for myself. What they told me that I should
be ashamed of myself and why would I even bring
that up?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's crazy, And that's why women find it difficult to speak.
That's why, because you don't get the support of people
don't believe you. They don't understand why you're bringing it up.
They're like, well, why didn't you say something at the time.
You because it's a feeling of powerlessness that you have
at the time, and you're also shot and.

Speaker 17 (35:40):
People don't support you. Yeah, I could tell you of
another time. This was a famous TV judge, not Judge Matthis.
I love him, He's a great man. At a very
public place. I had my suit on. I was handling
my business for the television show I was on at
that time. He and I were on this SI network.

(36:01):
This man walked in, grabbed me by the back of
my neck, turned me around and rammed his nasty tongue
down my throne, and everybody at the network saw it.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Ugh, the mayor of New Orleans at the time was
why my blanket on? His name Mark Murriol.

Speaker 17 (36:22):
Mark Morriol. I called Mark Morriol, Mark Morrel. He said,
you want me to send the police there right now?
Somebody at the network tapped me on the shoulder. They said,
please don't do you know that they did not want
any bad press.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah, I can believe.

Speaker 12 (36:40):
Around their show and did not care what had just
happened to me. It wasn't so bad after, was it.
That's what makes it hard for women to speak up
about these things.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
And I'm glad you said that because I hear that
all the time. When women come forward, people are like, well,
why is she telling this story now?

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, why didn't she say something when it happen? And
that's why the support thank you? And if they see it,
they saw what happened, they don't think, well, this is
gonna hit the fan because he's going to do this
to somebody else, because we're protecting this. Yeah, and even
you questioning what you were wearing, like what did I
do to make this happen? Because people think that too,

(37:18):
you shouldn't have been in that position or you shouldn't
have been wearing this. So I just when I was
reading that, I was like, I can't even imagine the
things that you've been through being in this business as
long as you have. And we might not have heard
it publicly, but I just think it's important because there's
so many women that might feel like they got some
power from hearing you talk about it too.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Well, I'm going to tell you something.

Speaker 17 (37:40):
You know, if a man invites you up to his
room and it's the middle of the night, don't go
to have him meet you down in the lobby. Although
I will tell you that one time Michael George invited
me up to his room, it was in the middle
of the nine I did go, and you know what
we did. We ended up playing backgammon. We talked about

(38:00):
our parents, we talked about our families, and we ended
up being good friends for a long time. We had
no sex whatsoever. In fact, he referred to me as
the big Sister and I said, I'm always the big
sis style, you know. And we just had the best
time ever.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, there's good people and bad people as yes they're are.
What kind of advice do you have for someone who
who worked in Hollywood is a woman and went through
an experience like you went through, Like, what advice would
you give them?

Speaker 12 (38:28):
It's hard?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I would say nowadays, speak up, tell your truth. Do
not carry the burden of that.

Speaker 17 (38:34):
Pain, and especially if it's something you feel that you
cannot work through because you know situations.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Like this experience is like this drives some people crazy. Yeah,
try to protect yourself. There's a thing called discernment.

Speaker 17 (38:49):
Feel the experience, feel the person's vibe because people can't
help but show you who they are.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Well, Lissa and Charyl, Lee, Ralph, we thank you so
much for coming through. I feel like we could talk
to you for maybe like four or five. I know,
I'm not even gonna lie just about everything because there's
so many gems in this book, Diva two point zero
twelve Life Lessons from Me for you, and I have
to say it did touch me. I learned a lot
more about you than I ever knew before. It's just
your whole career path. We've always seen how talented and

(39:16):
amazing you are, so this just took it to another
level for me. Thank you so much, Chery, Lee, Ralph,
and coming up next, we have a Last Word. That's
where you guys call in and you get to have
the last word on the show today fifty one fifty
Way Up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Take up the phone, tappying to get your voice heard.
What the word is?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
He is the last word on Way Up with Angela Yee?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
As way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and
really having a good time you guys. To be honest,
like this show has been just really a blessing to
be able to wake up at seven in the morning
instead of four, to be able to come in here
with you guys, to make sure that y'all really run
this show all right. Whatever it is that's interesting to you,
you let me know and we get that on the air.

(40:00):
I want to make sure we're constantly checking in when
we're constantly shining a light, we're constantly hearing your secret.
And of course every day you guys get to have
the last word here it is one.

Speaker 10 (40:10):
Time at bank camp.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
This is like a fleet you know.

Speaker 10 (40:14):
Well, okay, so I'm.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Listening to your radio station right now and you said
calling me the secret. I just wanted to say every
single morning part of my general routine. I think it's
not complete until I actually in the shower. I know
it's a little crazy, but uh, you gotta clean your

(40:39):
so found a little bit, a little bit, a lot,
a lot actually, but yeah, there is like the coop
in the tower.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Hey, ajama, this is anonymous Quola from New York. My
specret is that I will saying the zoo for a
year and a half, and I cheated.

Speaker 10 (40:57):
On her with like why do you wop up?

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Meaning his brother's busting out. He quote my phone one
time and meeting his brother's actually hooked up and he
was doing it and he still doesn't know because it
say and it's sting on plaschool, on saicret anlaw.

Speaker 15 (41:15):
I just want to shine a light on black men.
They don't get the attention and love and acknowledgement.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
That they deserve sometimes.

Speaker 15 (41:25):
So I just want to say, black man, I love you,
I see you. You are more than enough.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
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