March 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Royce 5'9" On His Biggest Regrets & Sobriety + More
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up with Angela Yee? I'm Angela Yee and my
guy Race the five nine is here with me.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yes, yes, yes, and thank you so much for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh do you want to do? Is this your artist?
You manage him? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is my This is my nephew.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, my nephew, Nissan Nassan? Hello? But what's the connection though?
Like as far as management, I know you have your
thing going on label all of that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, let me tell you how it started. So my
studio having studios, you heard of it, the trick I
made it kind of like a hub for the younger
guys to come in and develop. And he was one
of the guys that was around. He just happens to
be my nephew. And he also just happens to be
the son of one of our prominent legends. I can't
even put into words how important he is to the city.
(00:49):
R I p proof. So if you look at his face, yes,
the exact same face like him. Yeah, So that's the
connection there. So this is this is my baby, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So he waits.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
They probably could take me, but I'm never going to
try him.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So big money, you know, and actually I love Proof,
Like I knew Proof personally. Also, when I was on
Shade forty five, he used to call in coming from
the casino with his mom, like when the show started,
he was leaving the casino and he was just calling,
like to check in while he was with your grandmother
his mom at the time. But I've been on tour
(01:26):
with them. Yeah, So he definitely was one of my
favorite people, like when he was alive, and we've had
some crazy moments, you know, on the road, being on
tour in Vegas. But he always was a type of
person who really held it down. Everyone liked him.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah. Man, it's so crazy how many like people he
reached and just was like such a character too. I
find it so amazing. That's crazy that you knew and
then like all over the world.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, I used to work for
eminem and be on Shae forty five and so, and
I know your dad also was in a group with
Jay Dilla too at one point, so.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
He was in a group with me too. Well, yeah,
we were called the head Shrinkers.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Did I ever tell you that you didn't know that
the head Shrinkers?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, we never we never made any music like under
that group name. But yeah, that was like that was
like his thing. He just make groups with people.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So what you guys didn't make any music? Yeah, it
was way back in showcas Shrinkers. I want to know
what the thinking was when you all were sitting down, like,
what's a good name for the group?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yo? Who came up with that title? Can you know?
Was it? Was it Hussain west side Hussein or you don't?
You don't remember that. I was thinking to myself, I
don't really like the name, but all right, yeah we
can do it. We just we just started.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Pre pause and the sign for you? Do you prefer like,
when you think about it, would you like to be
in a group? Would you prefer being a solo artist?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I tried the group thing. It's it's not for me
because I'm so like, I'm so vision strong, and I'm
weird about controlling other people's like journeys or like the
entire creative idea. So I'd rather just like steer my
own ship. So like I like the solo thing. Prefer
that to me.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's his big his biggest strength, like his ability to
maintain quality control, the way that he sees the vision
from point A all the way to Z. You know,
he shoots his own videos, He edited them himself. He
does everything himself, everything that we weren't able to do
back when I was his age because of technology, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's that amazing fact that you don't even have to
own a studio to like.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Record the things that he's able to pull off visually.
It would literally cost two hundred and fifty three hundred
thousand dollars back in the.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
When you were saying, like one of your videos like
half a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Like I could do that for a.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Thousand crazy, that was nothing. That was the standard.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Which video was half a million dollars on Rock City?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Okay, rock City because we did we did some stuff
and posts and host production that costed a lot of
money back then.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Mm hmm, isn't it People used to spend like a
million dollars on videos back now. That's unheard of.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's like my videos and all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Andy william I remember because I used to work with
Wu Tang and I think when they did try and
that video and they were like, why did we spend
a million dollars on the video? That was the move
back then, that was the wave back and people like
to say that, like this video was a million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, you can't spend a million, and I say it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now. Of course, we're also talking about three to one
three Day while we're here, which is a big day
in Detroit. What exactly is I know it's the area
cob but where did three one three day even originate from?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I have no idea, like, why.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Did they even start that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Does anybody in here know? Because I'd like to know.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's the only place. Yeah, just a celebration of Detroit.
So what are the plans for three to one three Day?
I know we're here to talk about this collaboration.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I'll probably go to the game.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean there.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna help curate some events because you know,
I have a partnership with the Detroit Pistons. That's another
thing that I'm here to speak about. I've been appointed
a position. I can't say exactly what the position is yet,
right you know? Okay, Yeah, so so we're coming together
and this is gonna be a whole bunch of initiatives,
but right now the focus is three one three Day.
(05:19):
In this collaboration, with them for J Deler. Yeah, Donald J.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Diller, that's beautiful. I like that for you. Oh yay, Okay,
because I know this drops on three to one three
day on Watch thirteen. You can get it online.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I said, she's a fly girl, so I gotta have one. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's uh. I wear this too one three day because
I'll be at the game. I'm gonna wear this to
the game on that particular day. So so that was
your thinking to do that collab with J Dela. This
merch collab. It's a capsule collection.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, they were looking for something to do to honor Diller,
and we all came together and was like, how about
we do like a merch capsule, you know. So we
did six pieces. We did three three T shirts, three hoodies,
and two hats, two different hats.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So this one out.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah. These you only can get in the arena and
on the site, which is Pistons. You have to whisper
bro Christin's three one three shop dot com. You can
get it there and this I was the art director
on this one in particular. Very proud of this one.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It looks good. I like it. I like the color too.
It's like a different type of color. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, it's like a I don't know what you a
fashion guy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You're a fashion guy.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, so we really we're real proud of this one
and plus two just a a state dealer's a state,
you know, I mean trusting me to oversee something, so
so his legacy, you know, it's it's an honor.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I've had some of those dealing donuts. Those donuts are amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Just telling him about that spot, I know he had
a donuts shop, I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, it tastes. I mean, those were amazing donuts. I'm
not gonna be thinking about it sometimes some dealing donuts. Now,
have you ever had a chance and to sign up
to wrap on a dilbat? I have not.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That would be crazy though. Yeah, they got something just
it was billions floating on.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, I feel like that might be nice for it's
your project all the way done. I know it's coming
out next month, Like.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, we're making like a few little minor tweaks, but
for the most part, yeah, it's pretty much done.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And it's still called Arafoil.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You have Ara four four yup, dropping like April twenty fifth,
April twenty fifth. Yeah, yeah, April twenty fifth, the official day.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
How are you with being patient? Because I know that
you've been working on things for a few years now,
like three or four years. But how is that for you?
Because I know you're probably like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, I'd be like it geared over here. It's just
like you know what I'm saying, because yeah, I'd be
wanting to like just go, go go. But I'm realizing
because I'm just not getting this that like a lot
of stuff take like Royce tells me all the time too,
just like line your ducks up in a row and
like make sure that all the shots that you shoot
are going to hit. You know what I'm saying. So
I'm becoming more patient day by day.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I have too, So I think that on the Radar
freestyle probably really had you like I need to do
something exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Man. Yeah, after like just seeing all the attention from now,
I'm like, yo, what's next. We gotta go, we gotta go,
we gotta go. Just I so yeah, but nah, I
got a great team these guys, and they keep me,
they keep me in line as far as that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So now I do have to ask you in that
freestyle when you riped that picture of Courtae, what was
that about? I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I was like, you know, it's so funny, bro, I
don't even got no problem with you. I actually like
him as a person. It's something I me and my
like I picked on him like a few years ago,
and then like my fans was just like they loved it.
So I just kept doing. It's like an inside joke.
But I told myself like, dang, that's messed up.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'm probably gonna stop so shut out of cordaough.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Cordat is mine business. I know you were talking me
about the YBN movement previously, so it's more about the
movement and right.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Right right, it's just all more more so tho. It's
rooted in competition. It's not like no, like weird bfly
yo when I see you.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's not personal you know.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like, it's none of that. It's just more so competitive sport.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, did he ever hit you? Like, bro? What did
I do?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No, no, No, We'll talk one day.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He probably at the studio ripping the picture.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Because the worst you have a good relationship with Corde.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I love cord Yeah, I love corda. He's but he's
if I didn't know that he was so emotionally he's
very emotionally intelligent, you know what I mean. So that's
why I didn't think. I didn't think anything of it.
And you know how rappers are when when they're young.
It was the same way. Yeah, I was doing more
than ripping pictures up.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yes you were, and the whole crew was Okay, you
guys were going at it. Do you feel like nowadays
when it comes to hip hop? We had this conversation
at work some people t I was talking about how
it's over saturated and too many people have access to
make music or do you think it's a good thing
that people can now not even have to have a
studio or a machine behind them.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think I think access comes with a price, you
know what I mean. So I definitely think the oversaturation,
you're going to pay on some level for that. But
there are upsides to it, you know what I mean.
There are a lot of advantages that these guys have
by having that kind of access. The only thing I
don't understand is a generation with so much information at
(10:34):
their fingertips and so much access to information. This seems
like the generation with the least amount of knowledge on
like the business and just things in general, and.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Even like maybe sometimes a history of hip hop toio
and artists that came before them.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They're the rewriters. They want to rewrite everything they want to,
you know what I mean, Like they want to be
the first of their kind. So I mean it has
upsides in its downside. So I just love watching to
do both.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
And it's sound for you. I know you have a
good relationship with Paul Rosenberg, Eminem's manager too. He tell
me about you a long time ago. Oh really, yeah,
he said, he said you were really dope. So what
type of guidance is there? Is there anything that you
might want.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
To do as far as that, well, like just Paul
in general, Yeah, I'm I'm down. I'm game for whatever,
you know what I'm saying. I think it took me
time to grow though, Like when Paul first discovered me,
I was just like somebody who's just like really good
at rapping, but I didn't have myself figured out. And
I think like now more so I understand who I am,
(11:35):
just like, not only as an artist, but just as
a person. And there's more, there's more to steer and
guide now. So it's like now Paul, he's you know,
like he's helping and playing a part. But it's easier
now if you know what I'm saying, that he has
he understands what he's working with. So yeah, he's a
big homie for sure. He's always in my corner.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's an interesting thing, Like you can be really great
at rapping, but then.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, exactly, it's like it's a million people rapping. I
went through it exactly, like, yeah, good at rapping, going
to do I remember, yeah, like doing the show, I
was just rapping so fast. I'm like, yo, nobody cares
and I's like and then I was just like yeah,
I was like, okay, I got a chance.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
How I do this?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah that's funny. You just had that realization. And for you,
you said you've been through that too, races.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah. Yeah. When I first got into the business, I
thought it was just about how good you cor rap?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So I was definitely not. Sometimes the best rappers can't
make the best songs really exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And I realized that there were so many different facets
to the skill set for me to pursue and just
try to get better at I just knew I wasn't
really Marshall literally grabbed me and threw me into the business,
you know what I mean. Like I was twenty years old,
I didn't know how to make albums. I just knew
how to rap really well at open mics, right, you know.
So all of my development took place in the process,
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right there in the moment, you know, right there in
front of people in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So you gotta love it. Like being so young in
the game like you were. You guys have had like
your falling outs and then coming back together.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And then come on and you know, I'm a cancer.
Don't make me. Don't make that.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Look you have a Grammy nominated album for Best Rap Album.
You know that's a that's a big deal. And y'all
might be doing another project together.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're talking about me and me and Marshall.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, you and Marshall, I know you and and Premiere are.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, me and Preme working on it's a joint, a
joint thing that we do together called Prime. So we're
working on the third installment right now. As far as
me and Marshall, you know, all he has to do
is just send me a text message and I'm to
the studio whenever he's ready. We pretty much just do
that on his time. And he's always on some type
of time, you know what I mean. Like he's always
(13:50):
on some sort of mission. I don't know what he's
doing right now, but I know he's recording.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
A lot of stuff that's good. And it's you want
some I know you've done stuff with Marshall before.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Sure, yeah, he sent me some stuff. But we're gonna
you know what I'm saying, And he heard this album.
I haven't played the form yet. It's like I'm very
like picky as a creative, like you want to like
my junk like perfect when I go play it for
other like artists and musicians and stuff and then let
them like pick it apart and be like, yo, I
think you should do this this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
So yeah, and then you also work with one of
my guys. I swear Vezo, you guys have a good rapport.
How did that even start?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Man? It was so I made the song Coloring the Gang.
I made it random, random at the crib and I
just threw it out. But then you know what I'm
saying management and stuff. It was like, Yo, this is
this song is great. Let's how about we, you know,
realing somebody that you you're cool with or got a
rapport with. And then I like, what about Vessel? I
was like, Yo, you know what I'm saying. So we
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sent it to him. He sent it right back. Yeah,
he just sing too, shout out ice word. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, that's the homie right there, and listen him and
his wife the Fresh and Press juice Spy. I was
out there when I was in Detroit last time. I
loved that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I love to see that.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, And how honesty is it? Even his journey, Like
we look at look at you, Rory. It's like not
drinking no more, being healthy, you got your business together.
How have things changed? I know we've talked about this before,
but now it's been an even longer journey for you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah. I'm just I'm a little bit more adjusted to
it now, you know what I mean. But everything in
my life changed when I stopped. When I stopped drinking,
you know, alcohol was like the common denominator, you know.
Once I removed that, everything kind of went into the
form that it should have been to begin with. I
mean everything, even something that's minute is driving home and
(15:40):
not being pulled over by the police. Noman, I used
to think that they were targeting me.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You're like, no, I'm just drunk.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, they pulled me over because I'm black dog, you
know what I'm saying. Not just a baseball cap, you
know what I mean. It's like, as soon as I
stopped drinking and driving, I stopped even getting pulled over
by the police.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You know, what, have you spoken to Obi Trice at all?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I haven't. I haven't, but I I bumped into him
a couple of times, but it wasn't an environment where
we could really like kick it. So I haven't had
a chance to really like kick it with him.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But I've heard some things, right because I saw him
on social media, I wasn't really sure what was going on,
but I was like, I feel like somebody need to
reach out to him or something like.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I've gotten that feeling a couple of times watching him.
You know, it's a that's a slippery uphill slope, you
know what I mean. Like, I don't want to step
on toes or say anything that's going to offend anybody,
and I certainly don't want to I know how us
as addicts, we get defensive when people come at us
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in any kind of way about our problems, you know
what I mean. So if ever, the opportunity for me
to speak to him, if he ever, you know, if
he ever feels the need to speak to somebody, I'm
certainly somebody he can definitely reach out to. I'm always
available for that, you know what I mean. That's like
a big thing for me too as well, just not
only being sober, but taking the steps through my sobriety
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helping other.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
People, you know, yeah, because you've been there, you know,
are there people that you have to go double back
and be like you know what you were right?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Like yeah, And it's so tough to do because you
don't want to seem like one of those people who
got sober and now you're coming from a place of judgment,
you know what I mean. I'm sober now, So everybody
need to get sober. You know, you gotta kind of
let them. People do things on their own terms for
a minute, and then when they ask you for your help,
you know, that's when you come in with the with
the good words.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
They have to be ready for that assistance.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
A lot of people who don't necessarily understand addiction. They
think that people close to the attic can just fix them.
Why don't y'all, Why don't y'all get him on the
right track. Why don't y'all. Nothing anybody can do but
the person. The person has to be ready, first, first
and foremost to stop, and then you know from there
great things.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Can happen and a sign for you. Do you keep
in touch with the members of D twelve? Are they all?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
A few of them? A few of them? I I
recently he was with Von and Swift bizarre we are
like we'll like texts from here and there. I have
a really good relationship with like denying though, like he did.
He helped a lot on my project. Actually, so yeah,
I got a decent report with like some of the guys.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Do you remember, like what are some things you remember
from your childhood from your father?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Man, I just remember like going to Jeepers like every weekend,
or like chuck e cheese, and like I remember jumping
off my balcony too. Like we had like this two
story house and it's a den down there. He told me,
like never cross this lawne, don't ever go in here.
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I don't know why black families be like, don't.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Sit on my.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
He seemed. We grabbed the nice pillows off the couch,
threw them on the floor, and we jumping off the
second the second floor into the like off the balcony
into the pillows on their nice pillows, and he just
walked in the front door. He looked at me. He
gave me some money to leave. I'm like, yo, you know,
just random stuff, just a little random stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It was the significance of the money.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I don't know, go buy something that sounded like proof. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It probably just came from some money, like break everybody
off with some money.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He was a character.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Man, do you think, like when did you realize that
this is what you wanted to pursue?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Actually, like, man, my second time in eighth grade, Man,
I was, I was. I was a knucklehead, but like
just just like freestyling on the back of the bus,
like you know how they doing, like wilding out, just
like little one liners. And every time it was my
turn to go, like people would be super excited. I'm like,
a I may not seem like it, but I'm like
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an ego centric dude. So like, I like, I'm a leo,
so I like, get him my. You know what I'm saying.
They'd be happy when I go saw it's feeling that
feeling in like the eighth grade or whatever. I was
just like, yo, I want to keep doing this. So
I started making songs and then I put a song
out and like I remember I I went to school, Yachty.
I remember Yachty. He was like he said. We sat
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at the lunch table. He was like, bro, your song
it's hard. And I was like really, because everybody at
school looked up to Yady. He was always different. I
was like, dang, so ye'all.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I just kept going, have you and Yay spoken since
you started?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
No, I don't even think he knows I still rap.
I did. I did something and it might have rubbed
him wrong, but I was just like like I was,
I was young, and just what did you do? I
ha got on complex or something and I DMed it
to him because I was still in high school. I
was like, look look at me, and he was like
going up or whatever. He had already graduated. He was
(20:37):
like he dm' He was like okay. I was like,
I was like, I don't think he meant it like that. Yeah,
it was like but he was like, I was like,
you ain't do this in high school. And then it
just turned into like this big, like random weird weirdness
in our DM. But yeah, yeah cool, I ain't mean U.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Let me clarify on my beats what everybody's like.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah I was, Yeah I was tripping.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So what do you think is like for you when
you think about the plan as far as coming out,
because I know you're thinking about now the patience that
you have to have, but also putting a project together,
having some great people in your corner who have been
in this business for some time. Where do you see?
What do you visualize for in the sun?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I just really right now because I me, I've always
been a person. I just like think one step at
a time. Next it's like a big goal for sure,
Like just want to be a like super big artist
and just known like almost like a renaissance man because
I do so many different things. Like Rus was saying, like,
I'm I'm directing the video, I'm taking it home them
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editing it. It's like half of the beats I'm producing myself,
recording myself. You know what I'm saying, and I just
want to show kids more so just like be a
role model that like there's a will, there's a way,
and just like just be yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It's like I'm in here with like stickers on my
faces and stuff and like just weird stuff. You know
what I'm saying, Just be yourself. Whatever you feel like doing,
go do that, blah blah blah. So it's more so
just like what I want to mean to the world.
This is one of the means, you know, I want
to set that example for kids who look at me.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And you grew up in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I did, yep, so when did you?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
When did you?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I went back to Detroit. So after my dad passed
I was like seven years old, like two thousand and six,
we went down south because my grandma lived in Atlanta.
So I moved back twenty twenty one to Detroit. I
was just like, man, because at this point of my
at the point of my life, I was like kind
of like running from the idea and the fact that
who my father was. I was weird about that because
(22:39):
I feel like people will try to like neglect the
credit and just be like, yo, you ain't do this
that that that, But then I realized, like, yo, that's
actually a gift and a lot of people love my
father and it's home court advantage, and it's like why
neglect like the blessing that you were you were giving,
Like not everyone has that hand, you know what I'm saying,
(22:59):
or the blessing. So yeah, I came back in twenty
twenty one and just like linked up with these guys
and it's been to my advantage, you know what I'm saying.
I learned a lot from these guys.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, I think it's important to continue that legacy because
Proofs never got to exactly to really live up to
his full potential, right for sure, you know, unfortunately, but
he had.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It all yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, And so now you're like the next do you
feel like ever you get any type of like I know,
sometimes it's weird, but like some signs or do you
pay attention.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
To those type things? Maybe not, but like no, I
definitely do. I feel like he's with me, just like
on this journey throughout the entire time. I pulled over
on the hollway the other day, bro and just cry,
like just thinking about him because I just feel like
he's so proud of me, and it's like I'm trying
to cry right now, hold on too if I cried,
because this up, it's okay, now I'm playing. But yeah,
(23:55):
it's like because I know, like you're saying, like he
didn't get to do a lot of the things I
know he wanted to do. He did a lot, but
like he had a solo career that he wanted to
like blossom fully, and I feel like I'm kind of
getting to like I'm starting to live out that dream
for him, like for us.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So yeah, I remember he was really adamant about wanting
to make sure he was he did it independently, so
nobody was thinking like, oh I got this label to
really prove that when you think about being independent or signing,
what are your thoughts on how you want to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
See that's where I'm have to disagree with my man
a change. Yeah exactly. I like I like having like
a machine and label behind me. Like I said, I'm
someone who deals with so many things on the creative front.
I like the idea of just like having the business
on the back end and then like they just setting
things up and I just have to like show up
(24:45):
and just be myself and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So, yeah, paying attention to the business. But as long
as you have good people in your corner, you know,
they could tell you about all the mistakes they made.
They can make sure you have everything right.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I made them all.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, when you look back, some of the things that
you did, like, what would you say are summer like,
let's just say the three biggest mistakes you.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Made, the three biggest mistakes taking taking that first drink
with doctor dre That's that was. That's my magnum opus
of mistakes.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That was your first drink, yes, doctor years old? Do
you know what you were? What were y' all dorinking
Hennessy or I remember.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That Bacardi straight CARDI like or something? Is there a
Briccardia like? I don't know something Bacardi Marshall. Marshall had
me drink.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Okay, so it was that drink.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What's another? What's another classic one?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh? Balls out?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Oh? Thanks for reminding me of that?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
No, probably we want to hear that story, probably pulling
out a rocket launcher on camera.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Oh, that's great.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That was that was a big one. Okay, that one
haunts me still. Thank you. I appreciate that. I need
to hear some good things about my my mishaps.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
What happened that day?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Benzinoino, he pulled out a He pulled out a big
gun and a video clip toward me. So I pulled
out an even bigger gun video clip toward him. That
was so silly. But then what was what?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
What would you say? It's the third one? Can you
know it's been so many?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Mm hmm man, yeah, sure, where do you get a
ride here at the front.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Detroit Brojack.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
The third one was if I could, if I can
just group this act all together in one, like the
infidelity like with me, like the way that I kind
of came into the business and kind of did as
the as the romans do, and I did a lot
of things against my better judgment.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Seems like it's normal because you want to fit in things, right.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Like the drink with doctor Dre. I just said yes
because I didn't want to say no. It's not like
I wanted to drink, you know. So I never really
been like the kind of guy who like chases women
around like a bunch of I never needed a whole
bunch of women, and I certainly never liked the obligation
(27:23):
or responsibility of having to micro manage all of these
different people calling my phone right being demanded my time.
It was a very very stressful, self inflicted stress type
of situation that I put myself into. And then on
top of that, just the disloyalty to my wife, who
I love very much.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm glad that y'all got that back on track even
stronger hopefully now.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I almost lost it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I remember in a situation like that. Does she
still bring up things from the past. It's hard not to.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
We finally got past the point of her doing that,
but that that drove me crazy too. But that's one
of the things that you got to go through because
you can apologize, you know, which is great. That's a
great thing, that's a noble thing. But that's step one,
step one. Those are just your words, not worry about
your actions. Your actions have to line up for a
(28:14):
long enough period of time to where that thought is
in her head anymore. And this is a.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Process, right and family matters a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Let me tell you, Yeah, you don't realize it when
you first come into the business.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Somebody that was with you through so much, and that's.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Why I like something that you said earlier. It was
just when you were talking about bringing your whole self
across on camera, because I felt like I divided myself
up into many different people to fit into different frames,
you know what I mean, instead of just being the
same Royster five nine all the time, no matter what
room I walk into, the same Ryan Montgomery, you know
(28:51):
what I mean. I should be able to talk the same,
I should be able to dress the same. I should
be able to act the same. Like my behavior and
my demeanor and everything. Shit totally be applical, applicable, applicable
to any situation.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Right you know, Listen and Nissan, you said something in
your on the Radar freestyle too, what why are you
looking like?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You said it?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I felt about your falling out with your mom.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Oh yeah yeah over money, right, yeah, I mean it
gets it gets stressful. I feel like being an entertainer,
I think so many people have an expectation of you,
or like a perception of you that because I'm still
in the early stages. So it's like, man's ain't got
it like that right now, you know what I'm saying,
But like, yeah, it's it's those things that can create
(29:40):
over wedge between like just relationships. You know what I'm saying,
Like one thing turned into another thing miscommunication, and like, yeah,
eventually fell out, but we we we we've we've reconciled
and like improved our relationship.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Bro, that's good.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Did she hear that and was like, come on son, like, uh,
you know.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's crazy. She she actually messages me and is like
you think you corract n She's like, you think you're sweet? Hunh.
I was like, yeah, I'm right, but I'm not. She
must have missed it or something.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I don't know, but yeah, okay, sorry, you know where
we're at.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So maybe that's what it was. She's not going for
the negative feeling.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, well that's good. I'm glad to hear that. Man.
It's amazing just to see the two of you here together.
And so listen, three one, three day. I will be
in the building at the Pistons game. Also, I'm gonna
be wearing my new hoodie, giving me something to where
I mean, yeah, maybe I don't wonder, but it's gonna
be fun regardless.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Even if I got to get out there on the
floor and play myself.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I feel like I need to borrow some jewelry for
this game or something. I could be on it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
He's probably gonna be on the floor, right, Yeah, yeah,
you know that Detroit. Nobody does it like Detroit in
terms of just visual display of glitteriness.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I mean, this is gonna be interesting to you, for
you and to sound too, because now you have that
Detroit side of you, that Atlanta's side of you. Those
two things coming together is pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, Bridging it'd be weird. It's like because in a
way it's weird. It's like, in a way, I feel
like I grew up in Atlanta, so I know a
lot about Atlanta and I'm like learning a lot about
Detroit now that I'm back and I'm older. So yeah,
just like bridging those two things make for a unique
blend for sure. I don't I don't know who I
am who has better food at.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's hard, Okay, So look, I'm gonna say this. I
feel like Detroit is underrated when it comes to food.
I will say that there's some amazing restaurants in Detroit.
But Atlanta, you know, it's like a restaurant by restaurant
based basis, Like there's places when I go to Atlanta,
you know, I'm going, you know, to eat at certain places,
but Detroit shows me a lot of love, and so
(31:49):
I think after the game, have you been to Craig
Cafe yet?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Creg Cafe?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah? Okay, Like we gotta go there. You got it's
like a speak easy and they have a secret like
you have to have like a password to get to
the back room. And it's huge when you get into
the back of it. But yeah, where's that.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I don't be know. I think it's on Jefferson. I
gotta I gotta look it up for you guys. But
after the game, we got to have some fun. Shout
out to my guy prevailed to who opened up a club.
Prev We're gonna have something. We're gonna be outside on
three one three days.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That place looks amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, he's a lot of money alligated. You got to
see it. Yeah, like on the chairs, I'm like, what's
happened when somebody stands on it?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
He said he said that the court was inspired by
my studio. Did he ever tell you that?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't know, but yes he did. I just have
his back.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm wondering as he's just trying to blow my head of.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
What probably was serious. I can't see him.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Just he initially asked me to do the interior design
on it. Okay, he asked me to do it, and
I was gonna do it, and then I realized that
it's too big of a task. So I hooked him
up with Nephew. I hooked him up with nephew walk.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
He's actually designing my house in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Okay, so that house is going to be amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah it is. But I think they didn't end up
working together because Prevail is on go mode and he
didn't give her time to Yeah, but Detroit is I
feel like so much opportunity and like so many amazing
things you know, that are happening there. So I think
it's dope. For how do you feel like having moved back?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
And just it feels good. It's like it's a lot
different than Atlanta, but like being around these guys and
just like seeing different things. It's like Detroit culture is
way different too to me. So I don't know, it's fire.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I like it. I like it a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I almost don't call me for this butt almost. I'm
starting to like it more than Atlanta. Is cool.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You all right? Well, honestly, I appreciate you for coming through.
And so the new album Era four or four April.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Twenty fifth, April twenty fifth.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Setting Stone, who else is on it?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I know you got a lot of guys got right now.
I don't want to give away everything, but we got
baby Tron. I might have race on it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Come on, we'll see you. Gotta come the.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Song, I don't know. I might have to get I
might act funny, come out. I'm gonna send him in voice.
I'm a doe the verse. Yeah, let him get excited.
Then I'm send them yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It's a few people in there, so yeah, they're gonna
love it. They're gonna love it, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And rights for people who want to work with you, like,
can you just let us know who you're managing right now?
It's happened. Also a label or.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yes it's a label, but we're moving super slow with that,
super slow with that. Right now. I'm just working more
on the mentor on the mentor guidance side. I'm also
working with Courtney Bell. You may have heard of him.
He's a young artist in Detroit. He signed a Monarch
as well, I mean, I'm sorry not as well. He
signed the Monarch he signed to as Symbol Atlantic. So yeah,
(34:56):
I executive produced his album, So I like working in
that capacity now. As far as the executive side, I'm
not all the ways sold on just jumping diving all
the way into into that side of it, just because
I still have aspirations as an artist myself, okay, And
I don't want to like both. Yeah, yeah, I don't
want to. I don't want to try to multitask in
(35:16):
that way. Anytime previously that I've tried to multitask, I
didn't really hit the mark that I wanted to hit.
And I don't want, you know, like, I don't want
other people's careers intertwined with my inability to be able to,
you know, do a whole bunch of things at once.
I like diving into one thing and kind of like
hyper focusing on that until I hit my mark and
then moving on to the next thing.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, Premier said, you call him all hours of the night,
just like.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
What ideas when I'm in album mode. Okay, when I'm
an album mode. So right now, this is the first
time in the history of me and prem working with
each other that I've been up to my ear in
prem beats that I haven't even gotten to yet.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
So so yeah, you got a premier beat too.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
You ain't slow.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
You can't have any of mine, you know, maybe something.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, all right, any other beeps you need to clear up?
Are we good? Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
All right? Well, thank you both for joining me. I
cannot wait to hear the full project. I will be
with you on three one, three days as there.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yes, ma'am, all right, thank you for having us too.
We really appreciate the opportunity. Thank you, Un
What's up with Angela Yee? I'm Angela Yee and my
guy Race the five nine is here with me.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yes, yes, yes, and thank you so much for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Oh do you want to do? Is this your artist?
You manage him? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is my This is my nephew.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, my nephew, Nissan Nassan? Hello? But what's the connection though?
Like as far as management, I know you have your
thing going on label all of that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, let me tell you how it started. So my
studio having studios, you heard of it, the trick I
made it kind of like a hub for the younger
guys to come in and develop. And he was one
of the guys that was around. He just happens to
be my nephew. And he also just happens to be
the son of one of our prominent legends. I can't
even put into words how important he is to the city.
(00:49):
R I p proof. So if you look at his face, yes,
the exact same face like him. Yeah, So that's the
connection there. So this is this is my baby, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So he waits.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
They probably could take me, but I'm never going to
try him.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So big money, you know, and actually I love Proof,
Like I knew Proof personally. Also, when I was on
Shade forty five, he used to call in coming from
the casino with his mom, like when the show started,
he was leaving the casino and he was just calling,
like to check in while he was with your grandmother
his mom at the time. But I've been on tour
(01:26):
with them. Yeah, So he definitely was one of my
favorite people, like when he was alive, and we've had
some crazy moments, you know, on the road, being on
tour in Vegas. But he always was a type of
person who really held it down. Everyone liked him.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah. Man, it's so crazy how many like people he
reached and just was like such a character too. I
find it so amazing. That's crazy that you knew and
then like all over the world.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, I used to work for
eminem and be on Shae forty five and so, and
I know your dad also was in a group with
Jay Dilla too at one point, so.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
He was in a group with me too. Well, yeah,
we were called the head Shrinkers.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Did I ever tell you that you didn't know that
the head Shrinkers?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, we never we never made any music like under
that group name. But yeah, that was like that was
like his thing. He just make groups with people.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So what you guys didn't make any music? Yeah, it
was way back in showcas Shrinkers. I want to know
what the thinking was when you all were sitting down, like,
what's a good name for the group?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yo? Who came up with that title? Can you know?
Was it? Was it Hussain west side Hussein or you don't?
You don't remember that. I was thinking to myself, I
don't really like the name, but all right, yeah we
can do it. We just we just started.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Pre pause and the sign for you? Do you prefer like,
when you think about it, would you like to be
in a group? Would you prefer being a solo artist?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I tried the group thing. It's it's not for me
because I'm so like, I'm so vision strong, and I'm
weird about controlling other people's like journeys or like the
entire creative idea. So I'd rather just like steer my
own ship. So like I like the solo thing. Prefer
that to me.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's his big his biggest strength, like his ability to
maintain quality control, the way that he sees the vision
from point A all the way to Z. You know,
he shoots his own videos, He edited them himself. He
does everything himself, everything that we weren't able to do
back when I was his age because of technology, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It's that amazing fact that you don't even have to
own a studio to like.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Record the things that he's able to pull off visually.
It would literally cost two hundred and fifty three hundred
thousand dollars back in the.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
When you were saying, like one of your videos like
half a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Like I could do that for a.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Thousand crazy, that was nothing. That was the standard.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Which video was half a million dollars on Rock City?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Okay, rock City because we did we did some stuff
and posts and host production that costed a lot of
money back then.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Mm hmm, isn't it People used to spend like a
million dollars on videos back now. That's unheard of.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's like my videos and all of that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Andy william I remember because I used to work with
Wu Tang and I think when they did try and
that video and they were like, why did we spend
a million dollars on the video? That was the move
back then, that was the wave back and people like
to say that, like this video was a million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, you can't spend a million, and I say it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now. Of course, we're also talking about three to one
three Day while we're here, which is a big day
in Detroit. What exactly is I know it's the area
cob but where did three one three day even originate from?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I have no idea, like, why.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Did they even start that?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Does anybody in here know? Because I'd like to know.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's the only place. Yeah, just a celebration of Detroit.
So what are the plans for three to one three Day?
I know we're here to talk about this collaboration.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I'll probably go to the game.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean there.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna help curate some events because you know,
I have a partnership with the Detroit Pistons. That's another
thing that I'm here to speak about. I've been appointed
a position. I can't say exactly what the position is yet,
right you know? Okay, Yeah, so so we're coming together
and this is gonna be a whole bunch of initiatives,
but right now the focus is three one three Day.
(05:19):
In this collaboration, with them for J Deler. Yeah, Donald J.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Diller, that's beautiful. I like that for you. Oh yay, Okay,
because I know this drops on three to one three
day on Watch thirteen. You can get it online.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I said, she's a fly girl, so I gotta have one. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's uh. I wear this too one three day because
I'll be at the game. I'm gonna wear this to
the game on that particular day. So so that was
your thinking to do that collab with J Dela. This
merch collab. It's a capsule collection.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, they were looking for something to do to honor Diller,
and we all came together and was like, how about
we do like a merch capsule, you know. So we
did six pieces. We did three three T shirts, three hoodies,
and two hats, two different hats.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So this one out.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah. These you only can get in the arena and
on the site, which is Pistons. You have to whisper
bro Christin's three one three shop dot com. You can
get it there and this I was the art director
on this one in particular. Very proud of this one.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It looks good. I like it. I like the color too.
It's like a different type of color. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, it's like a I don't know what you a
fashion guy.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
You're a fashion guy.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, so we really we're real proud of this one
and plus two just a a state dealer's a state,
you know, I mean trusting me to oversee something, so
so his legacy, you know, it's it's an honor.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I've had some of those dealing donuts. Those donuts are amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Just telling him about that spot, I know he had
a donuts shop, I gotta go.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, it tastes. I mean, those were amazing donuts. I'm
not gonna be thinking about it sometimes some dealing donuts. Now,
have you ever had a chance and to sign up
to wrap on a dilbat? I have not.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I have not.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That would be crazy though. Yeah, they got something just
it was billions floating on.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, I feel like that might be nice for it's
your project all the way done. I know it's coming
out next month, Like.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, we're making like a few little minor tweaks, but
for the most part, yeah, it's pretty much done.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And it's still called Arafoil.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
You have Ara four four yup, dropping like April twenty fifth,
April twenty fifth. Yeah, yeah, April twenty fifth, the official day.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
How are you with being patient? Because I know that
you've been working on things for a few years now,
like three or four years. But how is that for you?
Because I know you're probably like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, I'd be like it geared over here. It's just
like you know what I'm saying, because yeah, I'd be
wanting to like just go, go go. But I'm realizing
because I'm just not getting this that like a lot
of stuff take like Royce tells me all the time too,
just like line your ducks up in a row and
like make sure that all the shots that you shoot
are going to hit. You know what I'm saying. So
I'm becoming more patient day by day.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I have too, So I think that on the Radar
freestyle probably really had you like I need to do
something exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Man. Yeah, after like just seeing all the attention from now,
I'm like, yo, what's next. We gotta go, we gotta go,
we gotta go. Just I so yeah, but nah, I
got a great team these guys, and they keep me,
they keep me in line as far as that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So now I do have to ask you in that
freestyle when you riped that picture of Courtae, what was
that about? I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I was like, you know, it's so funny, bro, I
don't even got no problem with you. I actually like
him as a person. It's something I me and my
like I picked on him like a few years ago,
and then like my fans was just like they loved it.
So I just kept doing. It's like an inside joke.
But I told myself like, dang, that's messed up.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I'm probably gonna stop so shut out of cordaough.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Cordat is mine business. I know you were talking me
about the YBN movement previously, so it's more about the
movement and right.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Right right, it's just all more more so tho. It's
rooted in competition. It's not like no, like weird bfly
yo when I see you.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's not personal you know.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Like, it's none of that. It's just more so competitive sport.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, did he ever hit you? Like, bro? What did
I do?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No, no, No, We'll talk one day.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
He probably at the studio ripping the picture.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Because the worst you have a good relationship with Corde.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I love cord Yeah, I love corda. He's but he's
if I didn't know that he was so emotionally he's
very emotionally intelligent, you know what I mean. So that's
why I didn't think. I didn't think anything of it.
And you know how rappers are when when they're young.
It was the same way. Yeah, I was doing more
than ripping pictures up.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yes you were, and the whole crew was Okay, you
guys were going at it. Do you feel like nowadays
when it comes to hip hop? We had this conversation
at work some people t I was talking about how
it's over saturated and too many people have access to
make music or do you think it's a good thing
that people can now not even have to have a
studio or a machine behind them.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think I think access comes with a price, you
know what I mean. So I definitely think the oversaturation,
you're going to pay on some level for that. But
there are upsides to it, you know what I mean.
There are a lot of advantages that these guys have
by having that kind of access. The only thing I
don't understand is a generation with so much information at
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their fingertips and so much access to information. This seems
like the generation with the least amount of knowledge on
like the business and just things in general, and.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Even like maybe sometimes a history of hip hop toio
and artists that came before them.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They're the rewriters. They want to rewrite everything they want to,
you know what I mean, Like they want to be
the first of their kind. So I mean it has
upsides in its downside. So I just love watching to
do both.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
And it's sound for you. I know you have a
good relationship with Paul Rosenberg, Eminem's manager too. He tell
me about you a long time ago. Oh really, yeah,
he said, he said you were really dope. So what
type of guidance is there? Is there anything that you
might want.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
To do as far as that, well, like just Paul
in general, Yeah, I'm I'm down. I'm game for whatever,
you know what I'm saying. I think it took me
time to grow though, Like when Paul first discovered me,
I was just like somebody who's just like really good
at rapping, but I didn't have myself figured out. And
I think like now more so I understand who I am,
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just like, not only as an artist, but just as
a person. And there's more, there's more to steer and
guide now. So it's like now Paul, he's you know,
like he's helping and playing a part. But it's easier
now if you know what I'm saying, that he has
he understands what he's working with. So yeah, he's a
big homie for sure. He's always in my corner.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's an interesting thing, Like you can be really great
at rapping, but then.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, exactly, it's like it's a million people rapping. I
went through it exactly, like, yeah, good at rapping, going
to do I remember, yeah, like doing the show, I
was just rapping so fast. I'm like, yo, nobody cares
and I's like and then I was just like yeah,
I was like, okay, I got a chance.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
How I do this?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah that's funny. You just had that realization. And for you,
you said you've been through that too, races.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah. Yeah. When I first got into the business, I
thought it was just about how good you cor rap?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So I was definitely not. Sometimes the best rappers can't
make the best songs really exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And I realized that there were so many different facets
to the skill set for me to pursue and just
try to get better at I just knew I wasn't
really Marshall literally grabbed me and threw me into the business,
you know what I mean. Like I was twenty years old,
I didn't know how to make albums. I just knew
how to rap really well at open mics, right, you know.
So all of my development took place in the process,
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right there in the moment, you know, right there in
front of people in the public eye.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So you gotta love it. Like being so young in
the game like you were. You guys have had like
your falling outs and then coming back together.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And then come on and you know, I'm a cancer.
Don't make me. Don't make that.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Look you have a Grammy nominated album for Best Rap Album.
You know that's a that's a big deal. And y'all
might be doing another project together.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're talking about me and me and Marshall.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, you and Marshall, I know you and and Premiere are.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, me and Preme working on it's a joint, a
joint thing that we do together called Prime. So we're
working on the third installment right now. As far as
me and Marshall, you know, all he has to do
is just send me a text message and I'm to
the studio whenever he's ready. We pretty much just do
that on his time. And he's always on some type
of time, you know what I mean. Like he's always
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on some sort of mission. I don't know what he's
doing right now, but I know he's recording.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
A lot of stuff that's good. And it's you want
some I know you've done stuff with Marshall before.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Sure, yeah, he sent me some stuff. But we're gonna
you know what I'm saying, And he heard this album.
I haven't played the form yet. It's like I'm very
like picky as a creative, like you want to like
my junk like perfect when I go play it for
other like artists and musicians and stuff and then let
them like pick it apart and be like, yo, I
think you should do this this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
So yeah, and then you also work with one of
my guys. I swear Vezo, you guys have a good rapport.
How did that even start?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Man? It was so I made the song Coloring the Gang.
I made it random, random at the crib and I
just threw it out. But then you know what I'm
saying management and stuff. It was like, Yo, this is
this song is great. Let's how about we, you know,
realing somebody that you you're cool with or got a
rapport with. And then I like, what about Vessel? I
was like, Yo, you know what I'm saying. So we
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sent it to him. He sent it right back. Yeah,
he just sing too, shout out ice word. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, that's the homie right there, and listen him and
his wife the Fresh and Press juice Spy. I was
out there when I was in Detroit last time. I
loved that.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I love to see that.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, And how honesty is it? Even his journey, Like
we look at look at you, Rory. It's like not
drinking no more, being healthy, you got your business together.
How have things changed? I know we've talked about this before,
but now it's been an even longer journey for you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah. I'm just I'm a little bit more adjusted to
it now, you know what I mean. But everything in
my life changed when I stopped. When I stopped drinking,
you know, alcohol was like the common denominator, you know.
Once I removed that, everything kind of went into the
form that it should have been to begin with. I
mean everything, even something that's minute is driving home and
(15:40):
not being pulled over by the police. Noman, I used
to think that they were targeting me.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You're like, no, I'm just drunk.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, they pulled me over because I'm black dog, you
know what I'm saying. Not just a baseball cap, you
know what I mean. It's like, as soon as I
stopped drinking and driving, I stopped even getting pulled over
by the police.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
You know, what, have you spoken to Obi Trice at all?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I haven't. I haven't, but I I bumped into him
a couple of times, but it wasn't an environment where
we could really like kick it. So I haven't had
a chance to really like kick it with him.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
But I've heard some things, right because I saw him
on social media, I wasn't really sure what was going on,
but I was like, I feel like somebody need to
reach out to him or something like.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I've gotten that feeling a couple of times watching him.
You know, it's a that's a slippery uphill slope, you
know what I mean. Like, I don't want to step
on toes or say anything that's going to offend anybody,
and I certainly don't want to I know how us
as addicts, we get defensive when people come at us
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in any kind of way about our problems, you know
what I mean. So if ever, the opportunity for me
to speak to him, if he ever, you know, if
he ever feels the need to speak to somebody, I'm
certainly somebody he can definitely reach out to. I'm always
available for that, you know what I mean. That's like
a big thing for me too as well, just not
only being sober, but taking the steps through my sobriety
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helping other.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
People, you know, yeah, because you've been there, you know,
are there people that you have to go double back
and be like you know what you were right?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Like yeah, And it's so tough to do because you
don't want to seem like one of those people who
got sober and now you're coming from a place of judgment,
you know what I mean. I'm sober now, So everybody
need to get sober. You know, you gotta kind of
let them. People do things on their own terms for
a minute, and then when they ask you for your help,
you know, that's when you come in with the with
the good words.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
They have to be ready for that assistance.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
A lot of people who don't necessarily understand addiction. They
think that people close to the attic can just fix them.
Why don't y'all, Why don't y'all get him on the
right track. Why don't y'all. Nothing anybody can do but
the person. The person has to be ready, first, first
and foremost to stop, and then you know from there
great things.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Can happen and a sign for you. Do you keep
in touch with the members of D twelve? Are they all?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
A few of them? A few of them? I I
recently he was with Von and Swift bizarre we are
like we'll like texts from here and there. I have
a really good relationship with like denying though, like he did.
He helped a lot on my project. Actually, so yeah,
I got a decent report with like some of the guys.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Do you remember, like what are some things you remember
from your childhood from your father?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Man, I just remember like going to Jeepers like every weekend,
or like chuck e cheese, and like I remember jumping
off my balcony too. Like we had like this two
story house and it's a den down there. He told me,
like never cross this lawne, don't ever go in here.
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I don't know why black families be like, don't.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Sit on my.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
He seemed. We grabbed the nice pillows off the couch,
threw them on the floor, and we jumping off the
second the second floor into the like off the balcony
into the pillows on their nice pillows, and he just
walked in the front door. He looked at me. He
gave me some money to leave. I'm like, yo, you know,
just random stuff, just a little random stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It was the significance of the money.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I don't know, go buy something that sounded like proof. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
It probably just came from some money, like break everybody
off with some money.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He was a character.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Man, do you think, like when did you realize that
this is what you wanted to pursue?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Actually, like, man, my second time in eighth grade, Man,
I was, I was. I was a knucklehead, but like
just just like freestyling on the back of the bus,
like you know how they doing, like wilding out, just
like little one liners. And every time it was my
turn to go, like people would be super excited. I'm like,
a I may not seem like it, but I'm like
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an ego centric dude. So like, I like, I'm a leo,
so I like, get him my. You know what I'm saying.
They'd be happy when I go saw it's feeling that
feeling in like the eighth grade or whatever. I was
just like, yo, I want to keep doing this. So
I started making songs and then I put a song
out and like I remember I I went to school, Yachty.
I remember Yachty. He was like he said. We sat
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at the lunch table. He was like, bro, your song
it's hard. And I was like really, because everybody at
school looked up to Yady. He was always different. I
was like, dang, so ye'all.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I just kept going, have you and Yay spoken since
you started?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
No, I don't even think he knows I still rap.
I did. I did something and it might have rubbed
him wrong, but I was just like like I was,
I was young, and just what did you do? I
ha got on complex or something and I DMed it
to him because I was still in high school. I
was like, look look at me, and he was like
going up or whatever. He had already graduated. He was
(20:37):
like he dm' He was like okay. I was like,
I was like, I don't think he meant it like that. Yeah,
it was like but he was like, I was like,
you ain't do this in high school. And then it
just turned into like this big, like random weird weirdness
in our DM. But yeah, yeah cool, I ain't mean U.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Let me clarify on my beats what everybody's like.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah I was, Yeah I was tripping.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So what do you think is like for you when
you think about the plan as far as coming out,
because I know you're thinking about now the patience that
you have to have, but also putting a project together,
having some great people in your corner who have been
in this business for some time. Where do you see?
What do you visualize for in the sun?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I just really right now because I me, I've always
been a person. I just like think one step at
a time. Next it's like a big goal for sure,
Like just want to be a like super big artist
and just known like almost like a renaissance man because
I do so many different things. Like Rus was saying, like,
I'm I'm directing the video, I'm taking it home them
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editing it. It's like half of the beats I'm producing myself,
recording myself. You know what I'm saying, and I just
want to show kids more so just like be a
role model that like there's a will, there's a way,
and just like just be yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
It's like I'm in here with like stickers on my
faces and stuff and like just weird stuff. You know
what I'm saying, Just be yourself. Whatever you feel like doing,
go do that, blah blah blah. So it's more so
just like what I want to mean to the world.
This is one of the means, you know, I want
to set that example for kids who look at me.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And you grew up in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I did, yep, so when did you?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
When did you?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I went back to Detroit. So after my dad passed
I was like seven years old, like two thousand and six,
we went down south because my grandma lived in Atlanta.
So I moved back twenty twenty one to Detroit. I
was just like, man, because at this point of my
at the point of my life, I was like kind
of like running from the idea and the fact that
who my father was. I was weird about that because
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I feel like people will try to like neglect the
credit and just be like, yo, you ain't do this
that that that, But then I realized, like, yo, that's
actually a gift and a lot of people love my
father and it's home court advantage, and it's like why
neglect like the blessing that you were you were giving,
Like not everyone has that hand, you know what I'm saying,
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or the blessing. So yeah, I came back in twenty
twenty one and just like linked up with these guys
and it's been to my advantage, you know what I'm saying.
I learned a lot from these guys.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, I think it's important to continue that legacy because
Proofs never got to exactly to really live up to
his full potential, right for sure, you know, unfortunately, but
he had.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It all yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, And so now you're like the next do you
feel like ever you get any type of like I know,
sometimes it's weird, but like some signs or do you
pay attention.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
To those type things? Maybe not, but like no, I
definitely do. I feel like he's with me, just like
on this journey throughout the entire time. I pulled over
on the hollway the other day, bro and just cry,
like just thinking about him because I just feel like
he's so proud of me, and it's like I'm trying
to cry right now, hold on too if I cried,
because this up, it's okay, now I'm playing. But yeah,
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it's like because I know, like you're saying, like he
didn't get to do a lot of the things I
know he wanted to do. He did a lot, but
like he had a solo career that he wanted to
like blossom fully, and I feel like I'm kind of
getting to like I'm starting to live out that dream
for him, like for us.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So yeah, I remember he was really adamant about wanting
to make sure he was he did it independently, so
nobody was thinking like, oh I got this label to
really prove that when you think about being independent or signing,
what are your thoughts on how you want to do it.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
See that's where I'm have to disagree with my man
a change. Yeah exactly. I like I like having like
a machine and label behind me. Like I said, I'm
someone who deals with so many things on the creative front.
I like the idea of just like having the business
on the back end and then like they just setting
things up and I just have to like show up
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and just be myself and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So, yeah, paying attention to the business. But as long
as you have good people in your corner, you know,
they could tell you about all the mistakes they made.
They can make sure you have everything right.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I made them all.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, when you look back, some of the things that
you did, like, what would you say are summer like,
let's just say the three biggest mistakes you.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Made, the three biggest mistakes taking taking that first drink
with doctor dre That's that was. That's my magnum opus
of mistakes.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That was your first drink, yes, doctor years old? Do
you know what you were? What were y' all dorinking
Hennessy or I remember.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
That Bacardi straight CARDI like or something? Is there a
Briccardia like? I don't know something Bacardi Marshall. Marshall had
me drink.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Okay, so it was that drink.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What's another? What's another classic one?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Oh? Balls out?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Oh? Thanks for reminding me of that?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
No, probably we want to hear that story, probably pulling
out a rocket launcher on camera.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Oh, that's great.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That was that was a big one. Okay, that one
haunts me still. Thank you. I appreciate that. I need
to hear some good things about my my mishaps.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
What happened that day?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Benzinoino, he pulled out a He pulled out a big
gun and a video clip toward me. So I pulled
out an even bigger gun video clip toward him. That
was so silly. But then what was what?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
What would you say? It's the third one? Can you
know it's been so many?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Mm hmm man, yeah, sure, where do you get a
ride here at the front.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Detroit Brojack.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
The third one was if I could, if I can
just group this act all together in one, like the
infidelity like with me, like the way that I kind
of came into the business and kind of did as
the as the romans do, and I did a lot
of things against my better judgment.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Seems like it's normal because you want to fit in things, right.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Like the drink with doctor Dre. I just said yes
because I didn't want to say no. It's not like
I wanted to drink, you know. So I never really
been like the kind of guy who like chases women
around like a bunch of I never needed a whole
bunch of women, and I certainly never liked the obligation
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or responsibility of having to micro manage all of these
different people calling my phone right being demanded my time.
It was a very very stressful, self inflicted stress type
of situation that I put myself into. And then on
top of that, just the disloyalty to my wife, who
I love very much.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm glad that y'all got that back on track even
stronger hopefully now.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I almost lost it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I remember in a situation like that. Does she
still bring up things from the past. It's hard not to.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
We finally got past the point of her doing that,
but that that drove me crazy too. But that's one
of the things that you got to go through because
you can apologize, you know, which is great. That's a
great thing, that's a noble thing. But that's step one,
step one. Those are just your words, not worry about
your actions. Your actions have to line up for a
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long enough period of time to where that thought is
in her head anymore. And this is a.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Process, right and family matters a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Let me tell you, Yeah, you don't realize it when
you first come into the business.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Somebody that was with you through so much, and that's.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Why I like something that you said earlier. It was
just when you were talking about bringing your whole self
across on camera, because I felt like I divided myself
up into many different people to fit into different frames,
you know what I mean, instead of just being the
same Royster five nine all the time, no matter what
room I walk into, the same Ryan Montgomery, you know
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what I mean. I should be able to talk the same,
I should be able to dress the same. I should
be able to act the same. Like my behavior and
my demeanor and everything. Shit totally be applical, applicable, applicable
to any situation.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Right you know, Listen and Nissan, you said something in
your on the Radar freestyle too, what why are you
looking like?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You said it?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I felt about your falling out with your mom.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Oh yeah yeah over money, right, yeah, I mean it
gets it gets stressful. I feel like being an entertainer,
I think so many people have an expectation of you,
or like a perception of you that because I'm still
in the early stages. So it's like, man's ain't got
it like that right now, you know what I'm saying,
But like, yeah, it's it's those things that can create
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over wedge between like just relationships. You know what I'm saying,
Like one thing turned into another thing miscommunication, and like, yeah,
eventually fell out, but we we we we've we've reconciled
and like improved our relationship.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Bro, that's good.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Did she hear that and was like, come on son, like, uh,
you know.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's crazy. She she actually messages me and is like
you think you corract n She's like, you think you're sweet? Hunh.
I was like, yeah, I'm right, but I'm not. She
must have missed it or something.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I don't know, but yeah, okay, sorry, you know where
we're at.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
So maybe that's what it was. She's not going for
the negative feeling.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, well that's good. I'm glad to hear that. Man.
It's amazing just to see the two of you here together.
And so listen, three one, three day. I will be
in the building at the Pistons game. Also, I'm gonna
be wearing my new hoodie, giving me something to where
I mean, yeah, maybe I don't wonder, but it's gonna
be fun regardless.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Even if I got to get out there on the
floor and play myself.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I feel like I need to borrow some jewelry for
this game or something. I could be on it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
He's probably gonna be on the floor, right, Yeah, yeah,
you know that Detroit. Nobody does it like Detroit in
terms of just visual display of glitteriness.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I mean, this is gonna be interesting to you, for
you and to sound too, because now you have that
Detroit side of you, that Atlanta's side of you. Those
two things coming together is pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah, Bridging it'd be weird. It's like because in a
way it's weird. It's like, in a way, I feel
like I grew up in Atlanta, so I know a
lot about Atlanta and I'm like learning a lot about
Detroit now that I'm back and I'm older. So yeah,
just like bridging those two things make for a unique
blend for sure. I don't I don't know who I
am who has better food at.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It's hard, Okay, So look, I'm gonna say this. I
feel like Detroit is underrated when it comes to food.
I will say that there's some amazing restaurants in Detroit.
But Atlanta, you know, it's like a restaurant by restaurant
based basis, Like there's places when I go to Atlanta,
you know, I'm going, you know, to eat at certain places,
but Detroit shows me a lot of love, and so
(31:49):
I think after the game, have you been to Craig
Cafe yet?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Creg Cafe?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah? Okay, Like we gotta go there. You got it's
like a speak easy and they have a secret like
you have to have like a password to get to
the back room. And it's huge when you get into
the back of it. But yeah, where's that.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I don't be know. I think it's on Jefferson. I
gotta I gotta look it up for you guys. But
after the game, we got to have some fun. Shout
out to my guy prevailed to who opened up a club.
Prev We're gonna have something. We're gonna be outside on
three one three days.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That place looks amazing.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, he's a lot of money alligated. You got to
see it. Yeah, like on the chairs, I'm like, what's
happened when somebody stands on it?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
He said he said that the court was inspired by
my studio. Did he ever tell you that?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I don't know, but yes he did. I just have
his back.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm wondering as he's just trying to blow my head of.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
What probably was serious. I can't see him.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Just he initially asked me to do the interior design
on it. Okay, he asked me to do it, and
I was gonna do it, and then I realized that
it's too big of a task. So I hooked him
up with Nephew. I hooked him up with nephew walk.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
He's actually designing my house in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Okay, so that house is going to be amazing.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah it is. But I think they didn't end up
working together because Prevail is on go mode and he
didn't give her time to Yeah, but Detroit is I
feel like so much opportunity and like so many amazing
things you know, that are happening there. So I think
it's dope. For how do you feel like having moved back?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
And just it feels good. It's like it's a lot
different than Atlanta, but like being around these guys and
just like seeing different things. It's like Detroit culture is
way different too to me. So I don't know, it's fire.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I like it. I like it a lot.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I almost don't call me for this butt almost. I'm
starting to like it more than Atlanta. Is cool.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
You all right? Well, honestly, I appreciate you for coming through.
And so the new album Era four or four April.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Twenty fifth, April twenty fifth.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Setting Stone, who else is on it?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I know you got a lot of guys got right now.
I don't want to give away everything, but we got
baby Tron. I might have race on it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Come on, we'll see you. Gotta come the.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Song, I don't know. I might have to get I
might act funny, come out. I'm gonna send him in voice.
I'm a doe the verse. Yeah, let him get excited.
Then I'm send them yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
It's a few people in there, so yeah, they're gonna
love it. They're gonna love it, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And rights for people who want to work with you, like,
can you just let us know who you're managing right now?
It's happened. Also a label or.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yes it's a label, but we're moving super slow with that,
super slow with that. Right now. I'm just working more
on the mentor on the mentor guidance side. I'm also
working with Courtney Bell. You may have heard of him.
He's a young artist in Detroit. He signed a Monarch
as well, I mean, I'm sorry not as well. He
signed the Monarch he signed to as Symbol Atlantic. So yeah,
(34:56):
I executive produced his album, So I like working in
that capacity now. As far as the executive side, I'm
not all the ways sold on just jumping diving all
the way into into that side of it, just because
I still have aspirations as an artist myself, okay, And
I don't want to like both. Yeah, yeah, I don't
want to. I don't want to try to multitask in
(35:16):
that way. Anytime previously that I've tried to multitask, I
didn't really hit the mark that I wanted to hit.
And I don't want, you know, like, I don't want
other people's careers intertwined with my inability to be able to,
you know, do a whole bunch of things at once.
I like diving into one thing and kind of like
hyper focusing on that until I hit my mark and
then moving on to the next thing.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, Premier said, you call him all hours of the night,
just like.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
What ideas when I'm in album mode. Okay, when I'm
an album mode. So right now, this is the first
time in the history of me and prem working with
each other that I've been up to my ear in
prem beats that I haven't even gotten to yet.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
So so yeah, you got a premier beat too.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
You ain't slow.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
You can't have any of mine, you know, maybe something.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, all right, any other beeps you need to clear up?
Are we good? Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We're good.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
All right? Well, thank you both for joining me. I
cannot wait to hear the full project. I will be
with you on three one, three days as there.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yes, ma'am, all right, thank you for having us too.
We really appreciate the opportunity. Thank you, Un
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