Spice Addresses 'Angry Black Woman' Label On LHH, Being Blackballed, & Rivalry With Shenseea + More
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's fs wall for the ANGELA Ye, And I'm really
excited to have.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
She's always gonna cause all kind of drama. We're not drama,
or you get the people talking. We got sight hair.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What's up? Says what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
And you know we premiered your song Round and around.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, I can't help but twitch, I brought a gift
for you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You did, okay. I cannot wait to see what this is.
You mad?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
That's so random, because you know, you came in here
and I was like, I wish I had a hat,
and then here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Let me see.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I was like, is she a black girl? Orange green?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
What kind of do we like?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So I said, let me bring on three so you
could schoose what y'all think somebody picked for me. You
like the orange? Okay? Yeah, I think orange goes good.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh my god, say.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Round round. And I was in the city.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I was in Queen's last night all night, going to
different clubs and everybody was loving the song and we
were just dancing and everybody was doing this and everybody
was round, round, rund and.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Round and it's perfect time.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, because you know, it's like summer loading and I
just want people to dance and have fun.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That's just what it is, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And you know what though, as much as you want
people to dance and have fun, you know, this new
album that you have on the way is a reflection
of all of the things that you've been through, and
I think in your music, you know, sometimes that's reflective.
Other times it is dance and have fun. But it's
so important to understand the journey because twenty five years,
it's crazy, and this album celebrates nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You know, I started in nineteen ninety nine and twenty
five years is a long time. It's not no smileting.
It's a very big thing.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's a big.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Moment for me and for me to still be relevant today.
That's really what gets me because you have a lot
of people who started when I started, and you know,
to just be consistent and in ever growing music industry.
It really is just humbling for me to know that
I've done twenty five years. I know, I'm like the
Queen of dan Shall. I started from nothing. Literally, come up,
(02:10):
I'm not doing this project independently by myself as a
black woman from Jamaica's They just made me feel good
to see myself and I feel proud of myself because
I never gave up despite what nobody said.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And to be clear, you have a lot of accolades.
A lot of times.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You're the first dance a woman artists you know, to
win to under words, You're the first one that brings
Shaggy and Seampaul together on a song. Yes, you know
that song has over three hundred millions down there, God
damn there.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So I'm just always just super happy and humbled over
the blessing from God because it's just by the grace
of God while I'm still just you know, creating music
and doing.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It and I just want to you know, sometimes when
I'm also watching Love and Hip Hop, we get a
glimpse into how heart that can be for you, Like
with Carly Red, that's your girl, but y'all be you know,
going back and forth, and I remember there's one scene
when you're like, I just need to walk away. I
don't want to do this, and I turned your hat around.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
She's like, yeah, but it's bothering me.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's bothering me so sad.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
She's like, yeah, all of that, but let's turn his
hat around. But I know that's not easy. Even sometimes
it's you know, being on camera filming and like falling
out with Carly Red and then you did make up
and apologize.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And for me, you know, reality TV is just like
your real life.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You and people get into stuff, get into friends.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
The only differences means that my stuff is just happening
publicly on TV, on television, and that's just what it is.
It's like real life story, it's reality to TV. The
only problem I have sometimes is that people don't understand
that a thirty second clip is not what happened for
the whole year. It was a whole Yeah, it's been
filming for a whole year for a long time, and
(03:51):
sometimes you know, they're just seeing thirty second clips and
then they want to, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Feel like they can evaluate the situation, right.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And I think with that one in particular, I remember
you saying also that you know, you feel like you
always have to defend yourself because they were trying to
make it seem like you were being loud and aggressive, right,
And so I want to get for me, when they
try to make it seem like I'm loud and aggressive,
I'm used to that, and I get that because I'm
always labeled as the angry black woman. But everybody else
(04:22):
is allowed to display their emotion however they choose. There's
so many other people on this franchise that we have
seen that has been loud, that has expressed themselves openly, angry,
you know, do whatever. But then when I it's cool
when they do it, but it's a problem when I
do it, they go, oh, there she goes, she's loud
or she's aggressive or whatever. But everybody else is allowed
(04:42):
to express themselves in whatever tone or anger and they
don't get labeled as angry.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They're okay to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I do notice that on the SHEW because and
when you know, what makes it worse when people be like,
all right, calm down, and that makes it even matter,
Like that' telling me calm down. I didn't even and
the next thing, you know, you're like damn.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And another thing too, what I always say, just because
something did not happen on camera, it doesn't mean it
didn't happen, right, And some of the girls that's why
in my new song eighty five T I did say
some of them girls done love and hip hop.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They cap because chasing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yes, you know what happened, but because the camera is on,
and because you want to look good on TV, and
because you want to be like the perfect person and
you want to play the victim.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Then it becomes the tears and.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And then everybody's like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And I'm like, here we go again, because i know
what happened. But I get it, you know what I'm saying.
But I'm just always going to be myself and you know,
love me or hate me, it is whatever it is.
Miscontent towards dawnp and who I am as you should
you know, I mean twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
We have to just continue to celebrate that because just
to think about when you even.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Started nineteen ninety nine and the things.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Are so much different now, but back then, being a
woman getting into this dance game.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, I was reflecting.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And the name of my album is Mirror because I've
been doing a lot of reflection and I was reflecting
and I was like, wow, nineteen ninety nine, when I
started out, I was printing CDs and walking around and
giving them out single handedly to different people to listen
to my music.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Hey can you you know, just to get.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
My song out there, going to Taximan and bus drive
or just giving them out CD so they can play
my songs.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I was here before Instagram.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And a lot of these social media handlers, you know,
so a bit, it's a much. It's much different now,
so I'm kind of living in an evolution just to
see the growth of the music and danceaull and certain
things that we have. By the clickout of finger just
to go on TikTok on Instagram. It's so much easier now.
But I've been there from CD from cassette, just trying
to get out there.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So it's a long time coming.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And for myself, as a huge fan of Dancer, I've
known about you for so long, so it was interesting
and I think it was good to see you when
you first joined Love and hip Hop. I was like,
that's actually you know to me, I know, Love and
hip hop can get a bad rap sometimes, but I
think that was a groundbreaking thing.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It was great to.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Happen for me and I felt like it opened a
lot of doors of opportunity for me. It gave people
a lot of you know, it kind of exposed people
to the Spice brand.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right, and that's the price you know, and you definitely
have done really well monetizing and having your own things happening,
because I always feel like that's important.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
If you had this platform, I got to have some products.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh yeah, absolutely, you know, I always try to maximize
in whatever way best that I can. And speaking of
Love and hip Hop and the franchise, I'm also even
though because I'm producing my own album, The Mirror twenty five,
I'm the executive producer for the album, but I'm also
producing a Love and nipap Atlanta Cast album.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Oh yeah, So that's.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You knowity on what's happening in this season. That's so
dope because you have put a lot of people on
too on the show that I'm a music artist and
given like some credibility, Like even Curly Rand had like
a song that you know, we did a song together
that went number one on the Reggae iTunes start as well,
so you know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But for me, I feel like that's a big We
need to get.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Back to the music. It definitely is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I just feel like we lost it somewhere in that
little crew of us, Like we just need to get
back to the music and what love and hip hop
is about and I just feel like, who better to
do it than me? I'm glad I'm the cast member
with the most streams. You know what, Let's talk about it.
Don't play me all the time, so let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, let's go to supposed to be about music.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, you do, because Rashida does music, like Yespy does music.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Hey does music.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, So Rashida's on the album. I'm so excited for
you haven't been in the studio for a very long time,
and I'm a huge fan of Rashida.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So I was like, come on, says, let's go. Let's
get back to the studio. And when she accepted, I
was like.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And you know, as we're talking about all of these
different things, I saw since we were talking about monetizing
the Forbes interview you did and you were talking about
one of the things that you bought that wasn't a
good investment, where you bought a house or.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Cash I did.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Can you expand on that a little bit? And we're
still sitting there. It's sitting there somewhere somewhere, are you sure?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Sometimes I forget about but yeah, I bought a house
cash and I regretted, and it's not right for me
to do, and now that I have more financial literacy,
I'll never do that again because this is the reason
why we got to build credits, and you know, we
got to use other other people's money.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Sometimes that's what which people do, They use our money.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's why I tell people, if you have a lot
of money in the bank, you're doing it the right
say that all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You got to.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Invested and let that money make money for you. But
I did that when I was younger. I felt like, oh,
you got to make a lot of money and buy
you know, my house by house. No, you don't have
to buy cash, you know. So that was just a
lesson that I learned, because I always tell people that
losses are lessons and you got to learn from your mistakes.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I like that you said that, though, because a lot
of times and I do tell people this's like, you know,
I own property, I invest in real estate, but it's
not always a good investment. People act like buying a
house always is like the greatest investment, and sometimes it's not.
You know, it's a lot that comes with it, and
a lot of people are not prepared for That's why
some people you may go into far closure.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's good to own your property.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
But you've got to be ready and got to pay
their taxes because it comes with a lot of bills
and a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So you got to be prepared for it.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's to do something with it now, like you just
have a sitting this.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But Airbnb is a new thing, you know for us
that is into real estate. I turned one of my
properties into airbnbos doing extremely great. I'm so happy for
that one. I just feel like it comes with a
lot of man work, so has single woman. Sometimes I'm
not speaking for you now, I'm talking for myself. Single
and don't have that man behind you to do the
(10:47):
manly stuff. Sometimes as a woman, it's hard because the
carpenter with them with Robbie and tell of things and
got to let's say, oh you need this time because
you don't know much about the construction part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That's when it you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
My god, you are so right. So I'm rehabbing my
house in Brooklyn right now. See, and it's so funny
because they'll definitely talk differently to me even though I
own the house. See, if I have like my brother there,
they'll have a.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Different language because your brother is supposed to know and yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Him, and I'm like, it's not even his house.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That's that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
They're like, yo, come here and take a look at this.
I'm like, this is my house.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Why are you telling him that's That's the thing that
you deal with when it comes to properties. Yeah, but
I do make sure that I'm like, I have people
around me that I get second and third because sometimes
it's annoying to go through all the triple the price
on Yeah, but you do have to get like other quotes,
and I do a lot of research online before I
do anything so I can see, like what other people
have paid for stuff, so I can compare it, you know,
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and see it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But you're right because they'll tell.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You anything like oh man, you need to do it,
and you're like, what what does that mean? All right, whatever,
get it taken care of. But yeah, so back to
this album, I'm twenty eighty five. T first of all,
such a creative video, and I feel like you're known
for being super creative when it comes to your videos.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
You're when it comes to your announcements. Even though that
pregnancy when I had people.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Mad, I was excited, but it was my it was
my new life, you know, that was my I was
given a new life and a lot of people don't
understand it, and that's okay. You know, I'm grateful and
humbled to be able to say I escaped death right,
And I don't take that lightly.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I know it wasn't a game.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I just felt like I got a new chance of
life and that's what I was celebrating, and I wanted
to bring that photo, you know, so it meant a
lot to me.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You know, I really was praying for you during that
time because I've always, you know, such an affinity towards
you and to see and people didn't know what was happening, no,
you know either, so to see that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But the twenty eighty five t video, you're like.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
An old lady, yes, and have our teacups that way,
You're going to be a cute old lady in twenty
eighty five.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I'm still gonna be dancing.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Saw that I was.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
But you definitely addressed some things on there, and there's
definitely the tea. Now I agree with this staying out
the way right, that's definitely a nice way.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
As we get older, we want to now how I
said it now, Angela, you most can't give me a
look a part too.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I didn't say stay out the way, matter right? No,
may I mind my business right now?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, give me a look a part to. Okay, mind
my business right now.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Me and my my business. Yes, no business with nobody business.
But you did talk about.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Let's move on, let's move on me a business, but
let's talk about You did address like things that we've
kind of known about, you know, already, like somebody who
worked for you going behind your back.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You put it in the song.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I did, I did. I did.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It created a lot of controversy, which was surprising because
I'm not going to say I didn't expect it. But
it's like people don't understand that it's really my truth.
I'm really sharing my truth and something that happened to me.
It's my story. You know. People make it seem like
I'm not allowed to talk about my story and what happened.
And me here I am saying, my best friend slept
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with my kids kid's father and this.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Was your fiance at the time, at the time.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
We were engaged at the time when it happens, So yes,
he was my fiance and she was I consider her
my best friend, but she said it too, so she
was someone that I love.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I'm not afraid to.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Say I had a lot of love for her, you know,
taking great care of her as a person, and that
cared for her a lot. So that was heart wrenching
for me. On the flip side, contrary, she's not here
to defend herself. She now has a different story three
years later.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But what is a different story. I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I'm just like, did it not happen? Because I don't
see how you have a different story.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
She says something else that it was forced and at
different things. Okay, okay, so I just leave it alone.
But I just shared my story that you know, that
was heart wrenching for me.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is he still active in the children's in your kids life?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
In my kid's life. He's never been active in my
kids life.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I'm a single parent since they're he has never given
me a dollar us to any of those kids. My
son is seventeen years old now, and I'm so proud
of myself. I did that on my own as a
single mother without the father, and they're doing great. My
kids are beautiful, they're happy, you know, they're living great.
Thanks me to God that he, you know, was able
to put me in a position so as a woman,
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I could stand up on my own and support my kids.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But their father has never supported.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Them in any way.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Just think about all you've accomplished, like you to be
in this position, to have raised your children the way
that you needed to to be, you know, doing music,
doing reality TV, being independent, that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Like you got to give it up for you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And like take that because sometimes, like I said at
Debreas and I'm like, wow, I really have overcome so.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Much and overcome you know, like dad, honestly, like you
were certainly in a position where didn't know what was going.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
To happen at all and grateful.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, and let's talk about, like how has that changed
your actual life once you got through to the other
side and you're good now, Like how has that affected you?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I feel like it makes me reflect more and prepare
more because at the time I was like wow, like
I just flix second. And this is also what I
want everyone to realize that because that is something that
is a must for all of us. But I don't
think it's something we really think about like what if,
so do we have everything planned and organize and put
together and it is our kids gonna be okay? Do
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we set up certain things? Because it's a conversation that
nobody wants to have. But at the time, I was like, wow,
I should have put this in place, I should have
did this. I don't even have a will, or what's
going happen to my kids or da da da da.
So it was a lot of things that was just
presented in front of me that now I'm even more prepared.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Right, you got to get ready, even like getting life
insurance together, yes, all of that. Somebody tell me their
mom already has her funeral paid for in the plot,
like so that and you don't ever want to think
about that. You know, it is something to you know,
like plan out because even if when I'm not here,
I don't want my family to have to.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Go fun have a fish fry. Oh she said, fish fry.
But yes, it's it's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's really because it's already hard enough. But then now
on top of it, we all the families arguing over
who's paying.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
For what, and then it's getting what yeah, and who's yeah.
So that's true too.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Now listen, you know I got to talk more about
twenty eighty five t because there's a lot of tea.
That's a whole lot of tea in there, so being
blackballed too. So let's talk about that experience, right, because
I know you're doing a memoir, right I am. I
want to feel like, let me say, it feels like
an intro to a memoir.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You know, to be honest, if this one song caused
so much controversy, I had part two and I had.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
To cancel it. What I needed, leak that I need.
I was.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
About that the black ball like tell me what happened?
Because they want to play your music on Like, tell
me what happened.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
There were people that literally came up to me and
confess that people was paying to have my songs not played,
like literally, and.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
This is because you got out of a contract or
what was the reason. It didn't even have anything to
do with contracting. I felt like it was more about
over my success. So people feel like they need to
get me out of the way.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
And I'm not sure why people keep thinking that because
I always say, like we you know, want business to
get aware. The kick is big enough to share it
for everybody. You can't be in every country at the
same time, right, you know what I'm saying. So everybody
can be their own person. There's not going to be
another Spice or another person that is like me. You
can be your own self, and I can be my
own self, and another person can be their own self
and everybody and we can also share fans. A lot
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of people don't just realize that we share fansuely and
that's okay, Like, why can't we all just make it
to the top together. Why have to be a competition
all the time. I feel like that's what it is.
And I'm always gonna be the good artist that I am.
I'm a great stage performer, always creative, So I'm always
going to be a problem for you if you're always
thinking that, because I'm always going to try to come
(19:01):
up with something good.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Right, yeah, and you're always gonna be able to have
your legs.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm always.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
One of my old ladies. You know. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I was thinking about this too, because I see with
your success, and like with Shensia's success, I feel like
people will pit you guys for some reason, Like I've
seen it in comments, you know, against that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm not sure why don't.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I don't think you do that. She doesn't do that,
but people do that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
But the industry does that overall, even just with other artists.
I've seen it too as well. I feel like they
feel like they've got to be a rivalry between two
persons for a come up. I'm not sure why, because
I don't feel that way.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What about the other women in dance hall in general? Like,
how has that been for you?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Because I have a lot of you mean, like other
women in dancehall or yeah, like just doing like collapse
or you know, reaching out to The funny thing is
I've had a lot of collapse in in dancehall, contrary
to the belief where they make it seems like I do.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I have a lot of female collabs.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I've collabed with Pampote before, I've collabed with Tifa, I've
collabed with Steph London, I've collabed with Angel, I've collabed
with so many women in the industry before, and more
names that I'm not even thinking of right now.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But people just make it seems differently right.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But I do have a lot of female collaborations under
my belt now and I have more to come and
I have female collabs.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Wait when I said that you have a release date, right, Yes,
you've made a big announcement.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I've made the big announcement. August ninth is the date
that I choose. I'm excited. I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm the executive producer.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So it's like all these twenty five songs that I
chose was from me, so cuse me, yes for them.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Honestly, it was really fun listening to even your old
woman voice. Really twenty eighty five because so far we've.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Only got to hear around and I mean round, round
and twenty eighty five t So that's what I have
to base it off of. Yes, but it's a fun song,
thank you, thank you as I was aving see cells
around Round.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm enjoying all the songs. I can't choose. People ask
me what's your favorite so far. I love all the songs.
They all have a special place.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Which gets you most emotional because I feel like there
being that this is a reflective album, there's got to
be some things out.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The song, the first song on there is what gets
me emotional, very emotional, all.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right, give me a little something about it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's a gospel song.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Okay, okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I started it with a gospel song.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And I know part of your journey has also been
because you have, you know, children, missing your children when
you have to work, and I know.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You've sacrifice absolutely leaving the kids and working and going
back and forward. It is definitely a sacrifice. But what
makes the sacrifice, you know, not so okay, but what
makes it smooth, smoother throughout the process is having my
kids come to Atlanta and me giving them a box
(21:59):
and they open it and it's a key and they're like,
what's this And I'm like, welcome to your house. And
they're like crying and like, mommy, no, Now you know,
so you're able to show them why you work so hard,
why you make the sacrifice, why you're doing what you're doing.
And you give them a house and they're happy and
they're excited, and you give them another one.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh okay, and another one and yes, seventeen.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Now he's seventeen, you buy thirteen. No, I told you
he needs a car.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
He wants the car. But I'm like, no, you're not ready.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
When I feel like you're ready, then I buy you
a car. He wants the car because he thinks I
can afford it. But I said, no, you got to
show me that you're prepared. I'm not going to buy you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A car because I can't afford to. And then you
go up to the street and gonna crash.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Laugh people, No, no, you're not ready. Does he know
what kind of car?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He went?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Says he told you? He told me about this ugly car.
What's the name of the tesla?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
No, not the cyber. She don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But she told me about this ugly car that looks
like the police car conger Krangla.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know, wrangler.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay that it feels like a safe car too.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's ugly.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I won't buy it, but okay, but good luck? Ready ready,
all right? And so listen, we went through all of these.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
So what do you see for yourself in the future,
like as far as love and hip hop? And I
feel like that is a good show for you. It's
a good platform for you. Some people you know have
it different. Yeah, but for you, what are you seeing
as your future there? Because, like I said, as I
was watching the show, there's some episodes where I felt
like she might be ready to quit this and I
feel like there have been times when you probably were like,
(23:40):
I'm not coming back to this.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
There have been times, I mean, Carly put me in
that situation. Yeah, because she was a friend of mine.
It wasn't nothing for the show. It was real hurt,
real pain, someone that I poured into a lot, like
I really love this person, and so when I was
showing my anger, people didn't understand it. But that was
because it's coming from a real place where I take
you for a friend, to the point of a sister
where I would, you know, do anything for you.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So I was very hurt through that situation.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But I'm over that. I'm not in that space anymore.
I'm in a better place. But looking back sometimes I'm like,
m it really gets under my skin.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
But you you are so sweet though when you called
her out there like she was nice.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
But it's not so hard to be the person that
swallows your pride like that too. It is, and to
be the one it's like but it's a good lesson.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Especially when you know you have a little sister and
she is the one that is provoking and she pokes
the bear and does the thing.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
You're looking at her.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Like you know it's you, but it's like everybody's like
a poor thing because she's always crying.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That makes it even harder.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And so what do you think about new sounds on
this new album too, because, like you said, gospel and
then we here, there's a little country and the round.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Round definitely have a little mix of country and danceall
and a little hip hop. I play around with a
little Afro on it as well. In one of the songs,
I'm speaking a little bit of like Indian okay, Spanish
as well, So it's gonna be well rounded.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Way hold on, is it gonna be some type of
reggae tone collab or something like that? Is a reggae collab,
not a reggae ton Okay, Oh my god, it's a
very exciting project.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well good, I'm happy and being independent. Now what was
that process like for you? Doing this whole album? Was
executive producing it yourself?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It was hard, very difficult putting it together. Not gonna
take all the credit. Karen young Wa call him Levitates.
He's like the composer. He built all the beats for
this project, which I was super excited for because I
was able to sit beside him and say this is
what I want. I want this like this, let's do that.
You give me some song. It wasn't too good. I'm like,
you're sleeping, Let's do this again. It was very fun
(25:47):
putting it together. Red Boom Super mixed, he mixed and
mastered all the songs, and all of them was recorded
at Ireland Studio, same place at Jamaica. So I did
it at home in the comfort at Jamaica, and it
was just very fun knowing that I'm able to choose
the sound and the songs. I wrote everything by myself
and I'm producing, you know. So it's fun.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Okay, Now, do they ever tell you space we need
you to date somebody on the show?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Me?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
What I did on that show?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There's nobody. Do they ever say bring someone? Like?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
They always want to know about my dating life, But
I feel like keeping that a secret, Like, let's just
something I got too much going on. Let's work with
the too much that I got going on. Because the
man ain't it, They're not it. I feel like my person.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Is that barn yet it's not around. He's not around.
I'm not bonn yet.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I'm probably gonna date somebody, definitely, younger than me because my.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Twenty five years. You'll get it.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I feel so because my person he's not around him,
not bonn yet.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
These new men for real, she's laughing. That's true. This
new man is not it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You're gonna be like Madonna ship not that bad, not
that bad.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
But are you dating Angela?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh that's nice to flipt this on me, because that's good.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The last time you said you wasn't. It's so nice
you know a person. Yes, yes, and we're the boss
girls out in the streets. It is man, ain't it?
And plus you kind of like being outside. Somebody has
to have a lot of confidence to day to honestly
like that. They do because they know you're going to
(27:30):
be on tour, they know you're going to be filming this.
They're gonna get mad over the things that are happening.
You know on the show. People have had a lot
of egotistics. They're gonna have to take pictures. People are
gonna come up and they're gonna be yo, bro, you.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Take the cup. They're going to gatistic cup thing that
I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So it is true.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
People got to be Anybody that's gonna date me have
to be strong and they got to be a man.
And I'm not going to be able to teach you
to be a man. You have to have that within you.
A lot of times people say.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Oh, let the man be a man. How do I
make you be a man?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You have to have that self confidence within you because
if you come around me and people are giving you
the phone to take my picture, how do I control that?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
If that's gonna make you feel small?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
If you come around me and you come into my
house and my closet is bigger than your bedroom.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
How do I make you feel better? I make you know.
It's a lot of things that comes with Dayton strong woman.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It's got to be somebody very specific, somebody who could
be supportive and not like getting a fight with you
right when you're about to leave and go do something.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Important and yeah and all of that and.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
All of that all right, Well, leg I hope that
when he's born, you know, by the time he's twenty
five years old, you're gonna be, you know, just like
you look in the twenty eighty.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Five te videos. Well again, Spice, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I do always love having you on and you know
I'm always such a big fan.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Thank you too, by the way, thanks for having me
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Way up
What's fs wall for the ANGELA Ye, And I'm really
excited to have.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
She's always gonna cause all kind of drama. We're not drama,
or you get the people talking. We got sight hair.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
What's up? Says what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
And you know we premiered your song Round and around.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, I can't help but twitch, I brought a gift
for you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You did, okay. I cannot wait to see what this is.
You mad?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
That's so random, because you know, you came in here
and I was like, I wish I had a hat,
and then here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Let me see.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I was like, is she a black girl? Orange green?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
What kind of do we like?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So I said, let me bring on three so you
could schoose what y'all think somebody picked for me. You
like the orange? Okay? Yeah, I think orange goes good.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh my god, say.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Round round. And I was in the city.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I was in Queen's last night all night, going to
different clubs and everybody was loving the song and we
were just dancing and everybody was doing this and everybody
was round, round, rund and.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Round and it's perfect time.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, because you know, it's like summer loading and I
just want people to dance and have fun.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That's just what it is, I know.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
And you know what though, as much as you want
people to dance and have fun, you know, this new
album that you have on the way is a reflection
of all of the things that you've been through, and
I think in your music, you know, sometimes that's reflective.
Other times it is dance and have fun. But it's
so important to understand the journey because twenty five years,
it's crazy, and this album celebrates nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You know, I started in nineteen ninety nine and twenty
five years is a long time. It's not no smileting.
It's a very big thing.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's a big.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Moment for me and for me to still be relevant today.
That's really what gets me because you have a lot
of people who started when I started, and you know,
to just be consistent and in ever growing music industry.
It really is just humbling for me to know that
I've done twenty five years. I know, I'm like the
Queen of dan Shall. I started from nothing. Literally, come up,
(02:10):
I'm not doing this project independently by myself as a
black woman from Jamaica's They just made me feel good
to see myself and I feel proud of myself because
I never gave up despite what nobody said.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And to be clear, you have a lot of accolades.
A lot of times.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You're the first dance a woman artists you know, to
win to under words, You're the first one that brings
Shaggy and Seampaul together on a song. Yes, you know
that song has over three hundred millions down there, God
damn there.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
So I'm just always just super happy and humbled over
the blessing from God because it's just by the grace
of God while I'm still just you know, creating music
and doing.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It and I just want to you know, sometimes when
I'm also watching Love and Hip Hop, we get a
glimpse into how heart that can be for you, Like
with Carly Red, that's your girl, but y'all be you know,
going back and forth, and I remember there's one scene
when you're like, I just need to walk away. I
don't want to do this, and I turned your hat around.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
She's like, yeah, but it's bothering me.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's bothering me so sad.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
She's like, yeah, all of that, but let's turn his
hat around. But I know that's not easy. Even sometimes
it's you know, being on camera filming and like falling
out with Carly Red and then you did make up
and apologize.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And for me, you know, reality TV is just like
your real life.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You and people get into stuff, get into friends.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
The only differences means that my stuff is just happening
publicly on TV, on television, and that's just what it is.
It's like real life story, it's reality to TV. The
only problem I have sometimes is that people don't understand
that a thirty second clip is not what happened for
the whole year. It was a whole Yeah, it's been
filming for a whole year for a long time, and
(03:51):
sometimes you know, they're just seeing thirty second clips and
then they want to, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Feel like they can evaluate the situation, right.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And I think with that one in particular, I remember
you saying also that you know, you feel like you
always have to defend yourself because they were trying to
make it seem like you were being loud and aggressive, right,
And so I want to get for me, when they
try to make it seem like I'm loud and aggressive,
I'm used to that, and I get that because I'm
always labeled as the angry black woman. But everybody else
(04:22):
is allowed to display their emotion however they choose. There's
so many other people on this franchise that we have
seen that has been loud, that has expressed themselves openly, angry,
you know, do whatever. But then when I it's cool
when they do it, but it's a problem when I
do it, they go, oh, there she goes, she's loud
or she's aggressive or whatever. But everybody else is allowed
(04:42):
to express themselves in whatever tone or anger and they
don't get labeled as angry.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They're okay to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, I do notice that on the SHEW because and
when you know, what makes it worse when people be like,
all right, calm down, and that makes it even matter,
Like that' telling me calm down. I didn't even and
the next thing, you know, you're like damn.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And another thing too, what I always say, just because
something did not happen on camera, it doesn't mean it
didn't happen, right, And some of the girls that's why
in my new song eighty five T I did say
some of them girls done love and hip hop.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
They cap because chasing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yes, you know what happened, but because the camera is on,
and because you want to look good on TV, and
because you want to be like the perfect person and
you want to play the victim.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Then it becomes the tears and.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And then everybody's like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And I'm like, here we go again, because i know
what happened. But I get it, you know what I'm saying.
But I'm just always going to be myself and you know,
love me or hate me, it is whatever it is.
Miscontent towards dawnp and who I am as you should
you know, I mean twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
We have to just continue to celebrate that because just
to think about when you even.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Started nineteen ninety nine and the things.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Are so much different now, but back then, being a
woman getting into this dance game.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, I was reflecting.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
And the name of my album is Mirror because I've
been doing a lot of reflection and I was reflecting
and I was like, wow, nineteen ninety nine, when I
started out, I was printing CDs and walking around and
giving them out single handedly to different people to listen
to my music.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Hey can you you know, just to get.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
My song out there, going to Taximan and bus drive
or just giving them out CD so they can play
my songs.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I was here before Instagram.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And a lot of these social media handlers, you know,
so a bit, it's a much. It's much different now,
so I'm kind of living in an evolution just to
see the growth of the music and danceaull and certain
things that we have. By the clickout of finger just
to go on TikTok on Instagram. It's so much easier now.
But I've been there from CD from cassette, just trying
to get out there.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So it's a long time coming.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And for myself, as a huge fan of Dancer, I've
known about you for so long, so it was interesting
and I think it was good to see you when
you first joined Love and hip Hop. I was like,
that's actually you know to me, I know, Love and
hip hop can get a bad rap sometimes, but I
think that was a groundbreaking thing.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
It was great to.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Happen for me and I felt like it opened a
lot of doors of opportunity for me. It gave people
a lot of you know, it kind of exposed people
to the Spice brand.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right, and that's the price you know, and you definitely
have done really well monetizing and having your own things happening,
because I always feel like that's important.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
If you had this platform, I got to have some products.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh yeah, absolutely, you know, I always try to maximize
in whatever way best that I can. And speaking of
Love and hip Hop and the franchise, I'm also even
though because I'm producing my own album, The Mirror twenty five,
I'm the executive producer for the album, but I'm also
producing a Love and nipap Atlanta Cast album.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Oh yeah, So that's.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You knowity on what's happening in this season. That's so
dope because you have put a lot of people on
too on the show that I'm a music artist and
given like some credibility, Like even Curly Rand had like
a song that you know, we did a song together
that went number one on the Reggae iTunes start as well,
so you know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But for me, I feel like that's a big We
need to get.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Back to the music. It definitely is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I just feel like we lost it somewhere in that
little crew of us, Like we just need to get
back to the music and what love and hip hop
is about and I just feel like, who better to
do it than me? I'm glad I'm the cast member
with the most streams. You know what, Let's talk about it.
Don't play me all the time, so let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, let's go to supposed to be about music.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, you do, because Rashida does music, like Yespy does music.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Hey does music.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, So Rashida's on the album. I'm so excited for
you haven't been in the studio for a very long time,
and I'm a huge fan of Rashida.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So I was like, come on, says, let's go. Let's
get back to the studio. And when she accepted, I
was like.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And you know, as we're talking about all of these
different things, I saw since we were talking about monetizing
the Forbes interview you did and you were talking about
one of the things that you bought that wasn't a
good investment, where you bought a house or.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Cash I did.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Can you expand on that a little bit? And we're
still sitting there. It's sitting there somewhere somewhere, are you sure?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Sometimes I forget about but yeah, I bought a house
cash and I regretted, and it's not right for me
to do, and now that I have more financial literacy,
I'll never do that again because this is the reason
why we got to build credits, and you know, we
got to use other other people's money.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Sometimes that's what which people do, They use our money.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That's why I tell people, if you have a lot
of money in the bank, you're doing it the right
say that all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You got to.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Invested and let that money make money for you. But
I did that when I was younger. I felt like, oh,
you got to make a lot of money and buy
you know, my house by house. No, you don't have
to buy cash, you know. So that was just a
lesson that I learned, because I always tell people that
losses are lessons and you got to learn from your mistakes.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I like that you said that, though, because a lot
of times and I do tell people this's like, you know,
I own property, I invest in real estate, but it's
not always a good investment. People act like buying a
house always is like the greatest investment, and sometimes it's not.
You know, it's a lot that comes with it, and
a lot of people are not prepared for That's why
some people you may go into far closure.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's good to own your property.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
But you've got to be ready and got to pay
their taxes because it comes with a lot of bills
and a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So you got to be prepared for it.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's to do something with it now, like you just
have a sitting this.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But Airbnb is a new thing, you know for us
that is into real estate. I turned one of my
properties into airbnbos doing extremely great. I'm so happy for
that one. I just feel like it comes with a
lot of man work, so has single woman. Sometimes I'm
not speaking for you now, I'm talking for myself. Single
and don't have that man behind you to do the
(10:47):
manly stuff. Sometimes as a woman, it's hard because the
carpenter with them with Robbie and tell of things and
got to let's say, oh you need this time because
you don't know much about the construction part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That's when it you know what.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
My god, you are so right. So I'm rehabbing my
house in Brooklyn right now. See, and it's so funny
because they'll definitely talk differently to me even though I
own the house. See, if I have like my brother there,
they'll have a.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Different language because your brother is supposed to know and yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Him, and I'm like, it's not even his house.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That's that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
They're like, yo, come here and take a look at this.
I'm like, this is my house.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Why are you telling him that's That's the thing that
you deal with when it comes to properties. Yeah, but
I do make sure that I'm like, I have people
around me that I get second and third because sometimes
it's annoying to go through all the triple the price
on Yeah, but you do have to get like other quotes,
and I do a lot of research online before I
do anything so I can see, like what other people
have paid for stuff, so I can compare it, you know,
(11:41):
and see it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But you're right because they'll tell.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You anything like oh man, you need to do it,
and you're like, what what does that mean? All right, whatever,
get it taken care of. But yeah, so back to
this album, I'm twenty eighty five. T first of all,
such a creative video, and I feel like you're known
for being super creative when it comes to your videos.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
You're when it comes to your announcements. Even though that
pregnancy when I had people.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Mad, I was excited, but it was my it was
my new life, you know, that was my I was
given a new life and a lot of people don't
understand it, and that's okay. You know, I'm grateful and
humbled to be able to say I escaped death right,
And I don't take that lightly.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I know it wasn't a game.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I just felt like I got a new chance of
life and that's what I was celebrating, and I wanted
to bring that photo, you know, so it meant a
lot to me.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You know, I really was praying for you during that
time because I've always, you know, such an affinity towards
you and to see and people didn't know what was happening, no,
you know either, so to see that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But the twenty eighty five t video, you're like.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
An old lady, yes, and have our teacups that way,
You're going to be a cute old lady in twenty
eighty five.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And I'm still gonna be dancing.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Saw that I was.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
But you definitely addressed some things on there, and there's
definitely the tea. Now I agree with this staying out
the way right, that's definitely a nice way.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
As we get older, we want to now how I
said it now, Angela, you most can't give me a
look a part too.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I didn't say stay out the way, matter right? No,
may I mind my business right now?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, give me a look a part to. Okay, mind
my business right now.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Me and my my business. Yes, no business with nobody business.
But you did talk about.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Let's move on, let's move on me a business, but
let's talk about You did address like things that we've
kind of known about, you know, already, like somebody who
worked for you going behind your back.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You put it in the song.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I did, I did. I did.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
It created a lot of controversy, which was surprising because
I'm not going to say I didn't expect it. But
it's like people don't understand that it's really my truth.
I'm really sharing my truth and something that happened to me.
It's my story. You know. People make it seem like
I'm not allowed to talk about my story and what happened.
And me here I am saying, my best friend slept
(14:04):
with my kids kid's father and this.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Was your fiance at the time, at the time.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
We were engaged at the time when it happens, So yes,
he was my fiance and she was I consider her
my best friend, but she said it too, so she
was someone that I love.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I'm not afraid to.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Say I had a lot of love for her, you know,
taking great care of her as a person, and that
cared for her a lot. So that was heart wrenching
for me. On the flip side, contrary, she's not here
to defend herself. She now has a different story three
years later.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
But what is a different story. I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I'm just like, did it not happen? Because I don't
see how you have a different story.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
She says something else that it was forced and at
different things. Okay, okay, so I just leave it alone.
But I just shared my story that you know, that
was heart wrenching for me.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is he still active in the children's in your kids life?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
In my kid's life. He's never been active in my
kids life.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I'm a single parent since they're he has never given
me a dollar us to any of those kids. My
son is seventeen years old now, and I'm so proud
of myself. I did that on my own as a
single mother without the father, and they're doing great. My
kids are beautiful, they're happy, you know, they're living great.
Thanks me to God that he, you know, was able
to put me in a position so as a woman,
(15:18):
I could stand up on my own and support my kids.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But their father has never supported.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Them in any way.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Just think about all you've accomplished, like you to be
in this position, to have raised your children the way
that you needed to to be, you know, doing music,
doing reality TV, being independent, that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Like you got to give it up for you.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's a lot.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And like take that because sometimes, like I said at
Debreas and I'm like, wow, I really have overcome so.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Much and overcome you know, like dad, honestly, like you
were certainly in a position where didn't know what was going.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
To happen at all and grateful.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, and let's talk about, like how has that changed
your actual life once you got through to the other
side and you're good now, Like how has that affected you?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I feel like it makes me reflect more and prepare
more because at the time I was like wow, like
I just flix second. And this is also what I
want everyone to realize that because that is something that
is a must for all of us. But I don't
think it's something we really think about like what if,
so do we have everything planned and organize and put
together and it is our kids gonna be okay? Do
(16:27):
we set up certain things? Because it's a conversation that
nobody wants to have. But at the time, I was like, wow,
I should have put this in place, I should have
did this. I don't even have a will, or what's
going happen to my kids or da da da da.
So it was a lot of things that was just
presented in front of me that now I'm even more prepared.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Right, you got to get ready, even like getting life
insurance together, yes, all of that. Somebody tell me their
mom already has her funeral paid for in the plot,
like so that and you don't ever want to think
about that. You know, it is something to you know,
like plan out because even if when I'm not here,
I don't want my family to have to.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Go fun have a fish fry. Oh she said, fish fry.
But yes, it's it's true. It's true.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's really because it's already hard enough. But then now
on top of it, we all the families arguing over
who's paying.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
For what, and then it's getting what yeah, and who's yeah.
So that's true too.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Now listen, you know I got to talk more about
twenty eighty five t because there's a lot of tea.
That's a whole lot of tea in there, so being
blackballed too. So let's talk about that experience, right, because
I know you're doing a memoir, right I am. I
want to feel like, let me say, it feels like
an intro to a memoir.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You know, to be honest, if this one song caused
so much controversy, I had part two and I had.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
To cancel it. What I needed, leak that I need.
I was.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
About that the black ball like tell me what happened?
Because they want to play your music on Like, tell
me what happened.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
There were people that literally came up to me and
confess that people was paying to have my songs not played,
like literally, and.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
This is because you got out of a contract or
what was the reason. It didn't even have anything to
do with contracting. I felt like it was more about
over my success. So people feel like they need to
get me out of the way.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
And I'm not sure why people keep thinking that because
I always say, like we you know, want business to
get aware. The kick is big enough to share it
for everybody. You can't be in every country at the
same time, right, you know what I'm saying. So everybody
can be their own person. There's not going to be
another Spice or another person that is like me. You
can be your own self, and I can be my
own self, and another person can be their own self
and everybody and we can also share fans. A lot
(18:41):
of people don't just realize that we share fansuely and
that's okay, Like, why can't we all just make it
to the top together. Why have to be a competition
all the time. I feel like that's what it is.
And I'm always gonna be the good artist that I am.
I'm a great stage performer, always creative, So I'm always
going to be a problem for you if you're always
thinking that, because I'm always going to try to come
(19:01):
up with something good.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Right, yeah, and you're always gonna be able to have
your legs.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I'm always.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
One of my old ladies. You know. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I was thinking about this too, because I see with
your success, and like with Shensia's success, I feel like
people will pit you guys for some reason, Like I've
seen it in comments, you know, against that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm not sure why don't.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I don't think you do that. She doesn't do that,
but people do that.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
But the industry does that overall, even just with other artists.
I've seen it too as well. I feel like they
feel like they've got to be a rivalry between two
persons for a come up. I'm not sure why, because
I don't feel that way.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What about the other women in dance hall in general? Like,
how has that been for you?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Because I have a lot of you mean, like other
women in dancehall or yeah, like just doing like collapse
or you know, reaching out to The funny thing is
I've had a lot of collapse in in dancehall, contrary
to the belief where they make it seems like I do.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I have a lot of female collabs.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I've collabed with Pampote before, I've collabed with Tifa, I've
collabed with Steph London, I've collabed with Angel, I've collabed
with so many women in the industry before, and more
names that I'm not even thinking of right now.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But people just make it seems differently right.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
But I do have a lot of female collaborations under
my belt now and I have more to come and
I have female collabs.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Wait when I said that you have a release date, right, Yes,
you've made a big announcement.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I've made the big announcement. August ninth is the date
that I choose. I'm excited. I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I'm the executive producer.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
So it's like all these twenty five songs that I
chose was from me, so cuse me, yes for them.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Honestly, it was really fun listening to even your old
woman voice. Really twenty eighty five because so far we've.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Only got to hear around and I mean round, round
and twenty eighty five t So that's what I have
to base it off of. Yes, but it's a fun song,
thank you, thank you as I was aving see cells
around Round.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm enjoying all the songs. I can't choose. People ask
me what's your favorite so far. I love all the songs.
They all have a special place.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Which gets you most emotional because I feel like there
being that this is a reflective album, there's got to
be some things out.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The song, the first song on there is what gets
me emotional, very emotional, all.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right, give me a little something about it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's a gospel song.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Okay, okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I started it with a gospel song.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And I know part of your journey has also been
because you have, you know, children, missing your children when
you have to work, and I know.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You've sacrifice absolutely leaving the kids and working and going
back and forward. It is definitely a sacrifice. But what
makes the sacrifice, you know, not so okay, but what
makes it smooth, smoother throughout the process is having my
kids come to Atlanta and me giving them a box
(21:59):
and they open it and it's a key and they're like,
what's this And I'm like, welcome to your house. And
they're like crying and like, mommy, no, Now you know,
so you're able to show them why you work so hard,
why you make the sacrifice, why you're doing what you're doing.
And you give them a house and they're happy and
they're excited, and you give them another one.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Oh okay, and another one and yes, seventeen.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Now he's seventeen, you buy thirteen. No, I told you
he needs a car.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
He wants the car. But I'm like, no, you're not ready.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
When I feel like you're ready, then I buy you
a car. He wants the car because he thinks I
can afford it. But I said, no, you got to
show me that you're prepared. I'm not going to buy you.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A car because I can't afford to. And then you
go up to the street and gonna crash.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Laugh people, No, no, you're not ready. Does he know
what kind of car?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He went?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Says he told you? He told me about this ugly car.
What's the name of the tesla?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
No, not the cyber. She don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But she told me about this ugly car that looks
like the police car conger Krangla.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know, wrangler.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay that it feels like a safe car too.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It's ugly.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I won't buy it, but okay, but good luck? Ready ready,
all right? And so listen, we went through all of these.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
So what do you see for yourself in the future,
like as far as love and hip hop? And I
feel like that is a good show for you. It's
a good platform for you. Some people you know have
it different. Yeah, but for you, what are you seeing
as your future there? Because, like I said, as I
was watching the show, there's some episodes where I felt
like she might be ready to quit this and I
feel like there have been times when you probably were like,
(23:40):
I'm not coming back to this.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
There have been times, I mean, Carly put me in
that situation. Yeah, because she was a friend of mine.
It wasn't nothing for the show. It was real hurt,
real pain, someone that I poured into a lot, like
I really love this person, and so when I was
showing my anger, people didn't understand it. But that was
because it's coming from a real place where I take
you for a friend, to the point of a sister
where I would, you know, do anything for you.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So I was very hurt through that situation.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But I'm over that. I'm not in that space anymore.
I'm in a better place. But looking back sometimes I'm like,
m it really gets under my skin.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
But you you are so sweet though when you called
her out there like she was nice.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
But it's not so hard to be the person that
swallows your pride like that too. It is, and to
be the one it's like but it's a good lesson.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Especially when you know you have a little sister and
she is the one that is provoking and she pokes
the bear and does the thing.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
You're looking at her.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Like you know it's you, but it's like everybody's like
a poor thing because she's always crying.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
That makes it even harder.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
And so what do you think about new sounds on
this new album too, because, like you said, gospel and
then we here, there's a little country and the round.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Round definitely have a little mix of country and danceall
and a little hip hop. I play around with a
little Afro on it as well. In one of the songs,
I'm speaking a little bit of like Indian okay, Spanish
as well, So it's gonna be well rounded.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Way hold on, is it gonna be some type of
reggae tone collab or something like that? Is a reggae collab,
not a reggae ton Okay, Oh my god, it's a
very exciting project.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well good, I'm happy and being independent. Now what was
that process like for you? Doing this whole album? Was
executive producing it yourself?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It was hard, very difficult putting it together. Not gonna
take all the credit. Karen young Wa call him Levitates.
He's like the composer. He built all the beats for
this project, which I was super excited for because I
was able to sit beside him and say this is
what I want. I want this like this, let's do that.
You give me some song. It wasn't too good. I'm like,
you're sleeping, Let's do this again. It was very fun
(25:47):
putting it together. Red Boom Super mixed, he mixed and
mastered all the songs, and all of them was recorded
at Ireland Studio, same place at Jamaica. So I did
it at home in the comfort at Jamaica, and it
was just very fun knowing that I'm able to choose
the sound and the songs. I wrote everything by myself
and I'm producing, you know. So it's fun.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Okay, Now, do they ever tell you space we need
you to date somebody on the show?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Me?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
What I did on that show?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There's nobody. Do they ever say bring someone? Like?
Speaker 4 (26:19):
They always want to know about my dating life, But
I feel like keeping that a secret, Like, let's just
something I got too much going on. Let's work with
the too much that I got going on. Because the
man ain't it, They're not it. I feel like my person.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Is that barn yet it's not around. He's not around.
I'm not bonn yet.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I'm probably gonna date somebody, definitely, younger than me because my.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Twenty five years. You'll get it.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I feel so because my person he's not around him,
not bonn yet.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
These new men for real, she's laughing. That's true. This
new man is not it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You're gonna be like Madonna ship not that bad, not
that bad.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
But are you dating Angela?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh that's nice to flipt this on me, because that's good.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
The last time you said you wasn't. It's so nice
you know a person. Yes, yes, and we're the boss
girls out in the streets. It is man, ain't it?
And plus you kind of like being outside. Somebody has
to have a lot of confidence to day to honestly
like that. They do because they know you're going to
(27:30):
be on tour, they know you're going to be filming this.
They're gonna get mad over the things that are happening.
You know on the show. People have had a lot
of egotistics. They're gonna have to take pictures. People are
gonna come up and they're gonna be yo, bro, you.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Take the cup. They're going to gatistic cup thing that
I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So it is true.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
People got to be Anybody that's gonna date me have
to be strong and they got to be a man.
And I'm not going to be able to teach you
to be a man. You have to have that within you.
A lot of times people say.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Oh, let the man be a man. How do I
make you be a man?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You have to have that self confidence within you because
if you come around me and people are giving you
the phone to take my picture, how do I control that?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
If that's gonna make you feel small?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
If you come around me and you come into my
house and my closet is bigger than your bedroom.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
How do I make you feel better? I make you know.
It's a lot of things that comes with Dayton strong woman.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
It's got to be somebody very specific, somebody who could
be supportive and not like getting a fight with you
right when you're about to leave and go do something.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Important and yeah and all of that and.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
All of that all right, Well, leg I hope that
when he's born, you know, by the time he's twenty
five years old, you're gonna be, you know, just like
you look in the twenty eighty.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Five te videos. Well again, Spice, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I do always love having you on and you know
I'm always such a big fan.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Thank you too, by the way, thanks for having me
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Way up
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