July 25, 2024 • 41 mins
Mýa Reflects On First Demo, Bullying, Smash Hit 'It's All About Me', + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up its way up at Angela. Yeah, I'm here,
Jasmine Brand is here, Yes, but the first time ever,
Maya's in the seat. Hellou and listen, Maya's in town
because you're actually on the Queens of R and B tour.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, So how's that been going so far?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's been amazing. I think we are maybe seventeen or
eighteen shows in there, oh wow, and it's gone by
so fast. But it's such a treat. You know. Those
are all the songs that I grew up on and
the songs that raised me, soundtrack to my teen years,
and I'm singing along with the audience every night. It's
just watching the other ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Isn't it so weird that there's kids now that are like,
I grew up on your music. Yeah, right, Yeah, It's
funny because we're like, I grew up on that, and
then there's people who grew up listening to Maya.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Right. You know, we actually speak about that during the
show talking to the audience. It's just the journey, you know.
Some of us are celebrating twenty plus years, thirty plus
years on stage, so it's just a blessing.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And you signed your first deal at the age of sixteen,
So that was I mean, I mean the music industry
was so different back then.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Too, yeah, than what it is today.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And I saw I remember last year you celebrated twenty
five years since your first album. That's amazing though, because
there's a lot of people who started in this business
who have since been like, all right, I'm done, or
it may not have the longevity that you've had, but
even independently, you were one of the first people to
be like, I'm gonna do my own thing.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it's been a journey. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
What triggered you going into pendent?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh, well, it's been twenty six years and I was sixteen,
like you mentioned, when I got my first deal offered
by an independent label in Washington, DC. And then I
signed with Interscope in ninety seven ninety eight around that time,
who distributed the first album and transferred to Motown, which
was an R and B label because initially Interscope was
(01:53):
a rap and rock label. Okay, and yeah, that's probably
one of the very first R and B test dummies
to see if they could have an Yeah, and so
it was a great run. I stayed within the Universal
Music System and Umbrella and I just transferred to Motown,
who was specifically R and B and uh. We worked
(02:15):
on my fourth studio album. It was like an accidental release,
you know, really states change, there are different territories in
the world that sometimes don't get the memo, and so
it leaked in Japan and they loved it, and I
got offered a deal independently. I left, of course, Motown
after that situation. But no bad blood things happened. It
(02:35):
was circumstantial, and I just decided to say, hey, okay,
well what's independence. Let me try this out and see
what it's all about. And so I learned immediately along
the way. You know, executive production happened, casting my own producers, assembling,
and album funding of course, and what that looks like. Yeah,
(02:56):
the legal aspect.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, so it was you were doing when it wasn't cool,
being independent, when it wasn't you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It was different. It was unheard of.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Honestly, you know, I think that also back then it
was a lot harder because it wasn't like we had
social media to directly go to people. It wasn't all
these different outlets. Also, for it wasn't set up to
be independent. It was like, who's going to work the record,
and who's gonna send you to do the radio, who's
going to pay for the marketing budget because sometimes it
(03:25):
is hard to have to fund things yourself too when
you see that money. But at the end of the day,
you're always funny things yourself. You just don't know it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, absolutely, But being independent, the pro of that is
that you see everything coming in and going out. But
you also dictate what your budget is, you know, and
you can make some life decisions and professional decisions simultaneously
and say, well, is this song more important than my
family or you know, radio is very expensive, and you're
(03:54):
also learning as you go as to how much things
really cost because you don't really see a budge break
down when you're sort of going through the most.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You can't tell you anything to.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
A major label artist. You don't see every nickel.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Oh we went out to dinner, so that came out
of your budget. And there's meetings that happened that you're
not even at.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah there, yeah, So you have to call those
shots and make some decisions as far as how fancy
you want to go, as far as the hotels and
the flights and all kinds of things are you taking dancers,
are you taking a fleet of people on the road.
Are you keeping overhead to a minimum? So that's where
the entrepreneur and the business woman comes in constantly.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I've heard artists talk about that how they have to
I've heard artists go on tour and say they came
back with no money and.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You would think possible. Yeah, sure they.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Raked it up.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But if you care enough about your show and you
want to make sure you have dancers, and you want
to make sure your stage is set up properly and
all of that, it costs a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I could tell you this. The independent journey teaches you
how to be everybody simultaneously like my backup. At the
same time, it teaches you to go grond mind in
ways that yeah, people may talk really bad about you initially,
but it also teaches you to improv and figure it
out as you go without a lot of things, the funding,
the budget, the hair and makeup. Sometimes you got to
(05:12):
be that too, the travel agent, everything, sewing stylist. You
have to learn how to do that and fall on
yourself because there's not always going to be somebody available
or within your budget constraints.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And I think It's a good skill to have to
because there's been times you go on the road and
if somebody if you don't like your makeup, what are.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You going to do? What are you supposed to do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Thanks, Now you came in here with this Prince T shirt.
I told you I had that same T shirt. And
Prince was also very big in your life. And he
was also a person who who talked about record labels
and being independent quite a bit too.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So what are some things you learned from Prince?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Well, he's a phenomenal talent, first of all, and he
really really cared about his artistry, and I think coming
from that very sensitive place of protection and something that
he loves but also is his God given gift, he
wanted to protect that for the next generation, for those
that he obviously believed in could have longevity or cared
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about their craft, and to make sure that at least
in some way, shape or form, they maintained spiritual independence,
financial independence, a mindset to always move forward in independence,
even if you are partnered with a major label, because
a lot of times you do have to do things
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in order for them to catch up or jump on
the pan wagon, etc. But to protect your art is
to also protect your mind, your sanity, because a lot
of us breathe music. We cannot exist or function without
music in our lives every day, or utilizing a gift.
There's also all kinds of business models that he played with,
(06:54):
as far as incorporating the CD to count for a sale,
that you see code inside of his concert tickets, working
in tandem with AEG and Live Nation, and not necessarily
sticking to the structure and the older structure that a
lot of us were used to coming from the major
label system. And obviously the world is always changing, so
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he was ahead of his time and his vision. But
I think it was more protection and care. And he'd
been fighting since he was probably in his teens, eighteen nineteen,
even twenties, till the time he ascended for ownership of
his masters, and he regained some many of them. I
(07:39):
don't think he regained Purple Rain, but he thought it
was very important because he pretty much did everything.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You see his estate.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Now they're having this whole thing with his documentary that's
supposed to come out. It was like a six part series.
I want to see it so bad, but I understand
I wanted to make sure that it's done properly, because
they said there were some issues, you know, within that,
and it's hard, you know how much he controlled everything
that he had going on, and he's not here to say,
(08:06):
you know, this is true, this is not true.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What's your favorite, Prince saw Oh, that's very very hard.
I have to break it, break it down in categories,
you know. You know, probably the favorite slow jam would
be insatiable, actually insatiable when I'm riding in my car,
you know, on a road trip. It might be controversy. Okay,
(08:30):
there's there's a lot of you don't have one of all,
like just no, there's too much of a catalogue.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
A lot of different yeah, and even songs that he
wrote for other people. People don't even understand.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Crystal Ball album is amazing. There's just so many
non singles as well, and untapped territory that many of
us haven't even heard. Gems that are my favorites as well.
But it's very hard to choose, Like Prince.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
My favorite prints on I love that song so much yours,
you know, and even the movie Purple Rain that is
like an iconic thing that I feel like no one's
ever can recreate the impact of a Purple Rain to
this day and the soundtrack that went along with it.
But I seem like we all are prince all right now.
(09:21):
Since this is your first time here, we definitely got
to get into some Maya history, you know, because we
haven't had you on the show before. So talk to
me about a young Maya signing her first deal. Because
I know you did go to college for a hot
stint and your father was also a singer, right, So
how did they feel about you saying this is what
I want to pursue full time.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Well, my dad, it's still doing his thing, Like music
runs through his veins and something that he has to
do constantly, so he's always gigging old school term and
runs his own business as well. And I watched him
a lot growing up, whether it's in the studio recording
or preparing for a live show. His band would always
(10:01):
be over the house, in the garage or the living room.
Neighbors complaining all the time, but music is in our veins.
So yeah, both of my parents were my managers at
the time. Prior to that, you know, I was involved
in the arts a lot and in school throughout my
entire grade years. You played the violin, Yeah, gospel choir, violin,
(10:24):
you know, all kinds of arts.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
What kind of band I've lived in DC like twenty
plus years?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Oh really?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
What kind of Was it a go go band that
he was in or was it just soul or what
was it? It was in everything band mostly so funk,
R and B and then of course they did you know,
corporate gigs as well, in Top forty as well, covers,
but everything and anything with my dad. But I was
exposed to the arts very very early on in my childhood.
(10:52):
And I was initially a tap dancer, hope for so you.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Say all of it.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I came to New y when I was about ten
with my mom tap dance in the Macy's Day Parade.
Oh yeah, she really was, and major reds, all kinds
of stuff. I saw Jelly's Last Jem starring Gregory Hines
when I was ten years old. It changed my life,
and I thought Broadway would be something that I would
(11:22):
pursue after studying of course theater in college, etc. But
things happened, and actually three tap dance one of my
friends shout out to Baccari Wilder with my first dance partner,
we would all you know, kind of be freestyle and
just doing things on our breaks lunch breaks, and he
encourage me to sing because I would sing. And so
(11:44):
it was my peers through the arts that encouraged me
to say, oh, you should really take this seriously and
record as your dad if you can go to a
studio or something like that. So I did, and you know,
being a dad and the entertainment business that's lasting, he
would probably want for his daughter. But they were very
(12:04):
supportive parents, both of my parents, and I thought, hey,
she has the experience, the discipline through the arts, well,
we'll do what we can to invest in recording demos, etc.
And it was very basement musician friend of my dad's
basement just to start, and then it eventually my parents
(12:26):
put together like fifteen hundred dollars, which was a lot
of money back then to record my very first professional
demo and Hockey Islam from University Music Entertainment. And while
I was in high school, he was an independent label
that had pure soul girl gospel group Drew Hill at
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the time from Baltimore, Okay. And he was actually looking
for a young female artist that he could sign, and
I was local to Washington, DC, Maryland, PG County area.
My dad always had his had my demo tape, my
bio and all of that. Eight by ten.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It was right and recorded on another double tape recording.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, yeah, And he heard it and he said, well,
I want to check her out and see if she
can sing live. So he came to my house after
school one day. I came downstairs. I wasn't prepared, but
I sang a couple songs acapella for him, and he
offered me an independent deal, and I spent about two
years recording from ninety six to ninety seven, and released
(13:36):
my very first album in ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, see, And that's kind of what you call artist
development because it wasn't like you just put out a
song right away. Because now it's like sometimes things go
viral and artists aren't ready for that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I mean, as a teenager, how ready can you be
unless that's your full time everything with tutoring, et cetera.
But I've learned a lot along the way. You know,
you do what you can when the opportunity knocks. You
might not be one hundred percent, but you go for it,
you know. And I think, of course, twenty six years
later and I better have of course improved right in
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every aspect of my life, career, womanhood, and rightfully so.
So it's a blessing. I read and I don't know
how to do this is I read that you you know,
when you were growing up in DC, there are some
points where you were bullied. Of course, I mean kids
are mean as hey, well, everybody goes through it.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Ye know what was that experience like for you? When
did that make you shy? More shy than to make
you stronger?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It made me everything. It made me very much an
introvert but also an extrovert in places that I felt
material things were not the focus, aesthetics were not the focus,
but maybe a common denominator, a common goal. The arts
is where I felt safe say it saves lives because
everyone is focused on something together versus what you're wearing,
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what you don't have, how you look. I mean, teenagers
we go through so many different phases, hormonally, clicks, validation, acceptance,
body changes, a lot of things. And of course we
live in a society that's very materialistic, and school can
be very very much a task just to get through,
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to try to not even fit in, but just get
through the day. By fitting in so that you're not
a focal point and you're just blended and stay out
of the way. Because it's still like that in many
different places. I was one of those kids that prayed
for uniforms, you know what I'm saying. It was a task,
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like an hour trying to decide what I was going
to wear the night before so I would not get teased.
And that's not even my personality to even focus on
outfits and being a part of a clique. But it's
just to get by. So I understand, even with social media,
I don't understand what these kids today have to go through.
(16:03):
Oh yeah, they are connected globally, globally, and.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
At any moment, something can make you go viral that
you did not anticipate.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean even as an adult, that's true. You
say the wrong thing or say a sound bite and
then it gets clipped, etcetera. So it's a lot of
filtering and you can never be safe. You just like lunches.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I like that you were able to share that though,
because that will help people, because people might look at
you Maya and be like, there's no way she's always
been flying lit.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But being able to say.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That it's something for kids who are coming up and
maybe going through it, or some for bullies to understand
you might be bullying the next maya.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Maybe you need to sit down and chill out.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But it is an important discussion to have because sometimes
I think people see us as adults and think we
always had confidence and always had it like that.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I had anxiety getting ready for this interview today. I'm like,
oh my gosh, this curl is not curling over here,
like what's going on? It's raining outside earlier, it's going
to be on camera.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, so it's a lifelong thing.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, when you're dealing with opinions, and of course the
world is full of them, and we're all now connected globally,
not even regionally in your little community or your block,
it's globally. Everyone has an opinion and you're never safe,
and you have to understand that not every day is
going to be perfect. And I think we can all
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learn from perfectionism. No one's perfect, but we are perfectly
made and no one's your maker. And so I think
that's where spirituality is key, and owning every part of
yourself and understanding there's going to be some bad days.
Horrific moments and rolling with the punches and also learning
how to laugh and not taking everything so seriously but
with a grain of salt. And that's where foundation comes in.
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And it takes time.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And knowing that things go away pretty fast. Like sometimes
things are a big deal to us, but the rest
of the world is like, it's not that big a deal.
But even though to us it is, it's okay to
have that moment, but then you have to be like,
all right, something else is going to happen. And this
was slide right over. Now, So you did go to
college for a semester. What were you going to go
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to college for?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Well, I actually didn't know at the time. I just
enrolled for speech communications. That's not something that was my passion.
I was taking dance as well, but I didn't know.
Nothing actually called me that I was solid in making
a decision on. So it was just going through the motions.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, you felt like you're supposed to do this is
what you do, you graduate, go to college.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, but it was not where my heart was now
living life. Of course, I would totally study psychology, you know,
and maybe holistic healing. Being through the journey I've been on,
so I have a lot more clarity just with life experience.
As far as studies are concerned, it doesn't necessarily have
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to be college either, might be independent education. So yeah,
there's a lot of pressure to conform to societal standards,
and I think it's very important. Education is key everywhere,
but it doesn't necessarily mean the traditional way. Sometimes a
year off just traveling or experiencing life can give clarity
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versus wasting four years or eight years.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm a forever student, I always say, because you know,
I'm quick to take a class on something. I don't
have to necessarily go to traditional school, but I will
be like, oh maybe I should get license in this
or nutrition is something I've always been interested into. That's
why people talk about your journey with becoming a vegan
a lot, because they attribute that also to how good
(19:40):
you look, just as far as like healthy, youthful, that
looks like okay, she's eating her fruits and vegetables.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
The skin is skinning.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
The skin is skinning for sure, you know, And so
talk about that journey with veganism and even I think
clarity in your mind too.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well. It all started with my independent journey. I started
creating these challenges of discipline to sharpen my mind and
my spirit taking away something that I absolutely really loved
or felt like I was addicted to because it was
a psychological thing that I felt like I had to
build for myself and also learn how to trust myself
in moments that something might have been taken away from
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me again. And so it was really something that I
made an effort to do every single year, and it
led me to vegetarianism, which also led me to veganism
and taking it a step further in learning what that was,
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but also the different tears. Oh, there's a lot of
process food doesn't mean healthy?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And just learning how to do better and also identify
where I'm slipping, you know, and how I need to
do better and so I can show up better for others.
It starts with me. It's always a challenge, especially on
the road with processed food, traveling processed food. There's a
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lot of restaurants out here nowadays and make it so
easy to go vegan, but I make it a point
to try to stay more clean at least a balance
so I have my fruits and my smoothies and my
juices and my tonics in the morning and do aurble
cleanses and detoxes because it's necessary. Because I love to
eat and I love to cook, and I love to
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pick out too. Because it's just so much great food.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Vegan food. What do you take?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yesterday I had vegan and jerk chicken salad and a
Nashville Hot vegan chicken wrap. I'm like, it's so much
in New York City too.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I can't get into fake cheese, that's the one.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Don't mind it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I don't really like fake cheese. It's hard to find
a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Like fake cheese to me sometimes can be very cardboardy tasting.
I feel like I could do vegetarian, but I need
some real cheese. I can't do vegan because of that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
There are actually brands within like the last five to
ten years that have tremendously improved and it tastes like,
you know, the real thing, but much much better and
easier to go vegan now.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, it is easier because I feel like playing you
go places. Yeah, you do have to make sure. It
takes a lot of discipline. And you talk about discipline,
What were some of the other things that you said,
I'm giving this up, like when you were disciplining yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Celibacy wine, any kind of alcohol you can just skip.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Over celebrating celibacy wine.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of social drinking. There's
a lot of free bottles in your section, you know,
when you're doing club dates and all kinds of stuff.
It's just always around you. Not that I had any addiction.
I never did, but I do love wine, and so
I just gave it up for a year just because
it is right. I can do without it. Why not
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start with that? And actually that's the first thing that
I started with, is no wine?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, how about now do you drink?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah? I actually have a wine on my own. It's
vegan organic Naji and brought it. It takes to order
that we should order, but yeah, I'll send you guys
a bottle.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We're gonna have order.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
What support? What about this celibacy thing?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah? What was the longest you went? Oh? Seven years?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Seven years?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Seven like a divine and then did you?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Then you seven is a long that's a good.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That's a good. Now what did that do for you? Though? Like,
when you think about your celibacy, did it clear? Like,
what did it do for you. What did you notice?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Mental clarity, I'm just doing without. It shifted my mindset.
It was no longer a focus the rush to be
in a relationship, the rush to be married, the rush
to be in something, because that's what you're taught to do,
to have kids or pro create, and I think there's
a lot of pressure on women to be able to
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do that and also feeling valid. You know why we
taught that we have to be taken or made an
honest woman in my liar. You know, there's a lot
of things is beautiful with that. You know, love is beautiful,
and I think the world always needs more of it.
But I think you must start with yourself. And I
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have to start with self always versus expecting from other sources.
So it was just reconditioning, and I think it's something
that was necessary because it's a very spiritual thing and
you must be very selective if you want better results.
And so I think that's self accountability. And it started
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with me by just shutting that part of my life off.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, it feels like that sounds worth it that you
have my landski, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, But you talk about that and people having things
to say, because that is tough too, like a lot
of people went away, and why she ain't wiped up,
why she ain't got this, why she ain't got that.
And people also don't know your life because to be clear,
Maya don't be putting her business out there like that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, well there's a reason for that, because, yeah, you
grow up semi sex symbol. There's a lot of things
that are said about you, and you ingest all of that,
you process or try to process all of that at
an early age, and then the esthetic that you may
come with is totally opposite of who you actually really are,
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and it intersects in your life while you're trying to
date or maybe taking photos with other celebrities, and so
it can get very tricky. But I think a lot
of things that are sacred should just remain private for
me until of course solid I'm ready and the foundation
of us is together, and even then it's a risk.
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So I don't really play with that part of my
life publicly.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I can't imagine you come out publicly with anyone. I
can imagine it. I'll be like, what.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Just because I've never.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Like that, but we've never heard.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But I'm not mad at it, But I'm not mad
at that at all.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I just have to be ready, you know, and Sody
and he got to be ready, and.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's a lot of pressure for guys.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I'll be like, what, Yeah, it's very weird, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And so let me ask you this. And when you
first put out it's all about me and that sound.
That was a huge smash song for you. What was
your mentality like at that time?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh, my mentality was well, there were so many different mentalities.
This was my first shot, first introduction to the world. Cisco,
Drew Hill, they were all my labor label mates. They
were very instrumental and the Push. I was also a
test dummy at the time and right Innerscope like the
(26:51):
first R and B artist.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It worked, It.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Worked, and you know, nothing is guaranteed in this life.
So it was just a one day at a time
process or mentality for me. Let's just take it one
day at a time. I know that I have the discipline.
I know that I believe in me. I hope they
believe in me. Let's keep all emotions to a minimum
and learn as you go and then apply everything that
(27:18):
you did with all of your masters, your teachers, the
ones that made you get it right, get it right,
no shortcuts, And there were a lot of horrific moments. Uh,
you don't know how to conduct a sound check, you
don't know what radio drops are. You're learning as you go,
and so you're very vulnerable and life just teaches you
as you go. You're gonna fall in your face a
(27:39):
lot of times, and that's what I did. But they
were my best lessons.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know, it's interesting you talk about being like the test,
I mean, because you did have a lot of hip
hop collapse. Yeah, I did, and so so that was
was that the label like we're gonna put self the
shaker on this, We're gonna put jay.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Z, you and jay Z. I mean, they were good.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
They were all bangers to say so.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
There was a magical era nineties where R and B
and hip hop became fused together. Mary J. Blige was
one of the first to do it. Yeah, that whole movement,
and I was very lucky to be a part of that.
On the end of course, ninety seven ninety eight, and
(28:22):
it was just a part of the culture. You know,
happy fifty one years to hip hop, by the way,
So it was a beautiful time. Everything was so exciting,
and some of it was my idea because that's just
what I grew up on. The labels, the independent labels.
We thought it just made a different synergy. There's different
fan bases when you fuse the two together in different regions. Also,
(28:46):
there was no limit in the South. Then you have
the New York cluster of like hip hop classic artists.
So it was a blessing to work with everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And Lady Marmalade, think about what a huge, huge moment that.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Way the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, we're going to get to that because it feels
like that's your passion too.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Though, Like now as you are making these decisions, seeing
all these Caribbean artists that you choose to work with,
I like that, you know, because that's her jam. Better
to hear you with that Jock Cure with a Bounty
Killer with BC Beanie Man, I saw you said, Shaggy
Yeah as well.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's feel good music. I love to be in company
with people that just exude joy and happiness and love
to work with each other, and that's a part of
the culture. So and I love to be in the Islands,
that's a fact. And it's it's global music too. And
you know nothing like summertime music as well. So would
(29:48):
you be open to like doing afrobeats or I'm always open.
Every genre is ground Junior Sanchez.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We saw you doing a lot of great collaborations country.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, you know little step tap dance, so know how
to do everything music.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
It's just how you feel.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Have you ever thought about, you know, Broadway or Dancing
with the Stars or.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Oh yeah, so I did season nine of Dancing with
the Stars.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I felt like that was yeah, yeah, because I know
everybody saying that at the time too. I remember they
were Maya could dance.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I wasn't pressed for a mirror ball, but I did
want to make sure I just didn't mess up every
d live TV. I was so nervous every night. I've
never done that kind of dance before. You know, that's
not something that I grew up doing. And you're learning
different types of styles and techniques every single week, and
(30:47):
it's grueling, but it's it's beautiful. It's live television, though,
and you can't fumble, So the nerves were sky high.
I learned a lot. I had an amazing dance partner teacher,
and it was a learning experience. But yeah, it also
works very differently. You can be perfect all day long
on Dancing with the Stars. It's about that. It's about
(31:09):
the votes, that's a fact. It's about your fan base.
It's about people calling in if they think you're safe
and they're not voting because oh, you just got perfect tense.
That's where you can get off the show. You know what.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I watched for you though, because when you were on there,
I was like, Maya is gonna kill it, and you did.
I'm gonna be honest, just because I just like, thank you.
What do you love to do outside of work?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Just yeah, outside of what we know about you, like
a day off for mine.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm so country, I am. I love animals. I just
love to go lay in the grass. I bought a
tent during the pandemic. I slept outside stargaze. I'm really simple,
you know. I love the ocean. I love just to
be in nature. Traveling is one of probably the top three. Okay, yeah,
(32:08):
adventure of course, skydiving a couple of times, and skydiving
a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Action, I think, yeah, skydivings. You know, I think I
should watched some videos I shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I love comedy too.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, okay, we are all.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Angela likes comed it's one of your favorite comedians, not
the favorite, but.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
One of your school old school Richard Pryor.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, there's so many though. I just I love comedians.
I think Jake Dave Chappelle is a genius. What he's
very DC so he does it so dry but so amazing.
It's strategic. Man.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I could see have to come to Yellow Springs's about to.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Hook that Upah, listen, you about to go to Yellow
Springs to day's comedy shows in the cornfields. But he
opened up like a comedy club out there too.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I have to that experience. How was Time Essence Festival?
I had about twenty six hours in New Orleans and
we drove from Little Rock, Arkansas from the tour and
I was up for a straight forty eight to seventy
two and I hit about six or seven events up
all on one day Alca Changes. It was beautiful because
(33:23):
I actually never really got the chance to be fully
engulfed in essencevest my entire career, to actually spend a
day going to different booths and different things are going
on all over the place. And see so many people,
shake hands, take photos and exchange words. I've done performances
(33:43):
or like a kickoff party as well, but then we
had to leave immediately in the past. But this was
a day where I got to see first of all,
one of my inspirations is Queen of Fula. Oh I've
worked with. I know Queen host a vegan panel with her.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
She has those amazing you I had. I have her
book too, yeah, Sacred Woman. Yeah, yeah, amazing Okay, So
and I know.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
They love you at Essence too.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Really yeah everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh yeah, I could to see so many people that
I've never met, but I feel like I've met Peky
and I have spoken. But oh in Queen of Floyd
and I also we've worked together virtually, especially during the pandemic,
you know, leading detoxes, but we've never met, but it
felt like she I met her and this is the
first time we actually got a chance to see each
(34:35):
other face to face, hug and brace each other. So yeah,
so many people were out, It's it turned into like
a whole jam session at the film Moore. Raheem DeVaughn
was there, Blau came through, Anthony Hamilton was there, everybody
was singing Luke James. The mics were on, but everybody
was singing, freestyling, and so it was just a jam
(34:55):
session moment.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Because I feel like you don't just run into Maya anywhere,
like it has to be.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
She's there for a like, we just don't run into her.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I get told I'm not outside outside and that I'm
always like hustling. I'm always doing the show, traveling, working
on the paperwork, whatever it is. But this was a
treat for me because I never really get to be
outside outside like that. But we liked it in the mix.
We like that, do more of it.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I feel like, is there going to be a time
and we'll get a full Maya story from Maya if
that's what y'all want, sure, because there's so much. I
feel like there's so much we don't know that you
went through because think about it in that business, like
you blew up at such a young early age and
like you said, you were a sex symb but but
you were so young, people saying things about you that
weren't true, and having to go through that and then
(35:44):
becoming independent at a time when it wasn't so popular,
and just your whole journey into spirituality.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I feel like there's a lot about.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It that you know, Oh yeah, we don't have no idea, no,
but I'm saying I think people would love to to
hear that, maya just from you, because somebody who has
maintained themselves in this business the way that you have,
that's been consistent that still today, like people are so
excited to meet you and see you out because, like
(36:12):
you said, people have told you we don't get to
see you outside like that.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I just think I will make more of an effort
to take less shows and outside a little bit more,
you know, But it matters because the magic that happens
and also the relationships that happen with balance. You know,
I need to practice more balance, and I know that
when I see the magic happened in my life, when
(36:39):
oh I can go work out and do a little
bit more in that area than I'm supposed to do
versus just hustling, hustling hustling or make time, you know,
for my friends and my family and myself, it's very important.
Money is not everything. Hustles not everything. So that's been
a very difficult listen, being an independent artist, always in
(36:59):
fight or fly, always in investment mode, always in a grind, grind, grind,
like it's never gonna come. But also I realized just
within the last two three years, it's very important to
create balance in your life. Otherwise you're gonna pay for it. Yeah,
the hard way. Your knees are not kneeing anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
A lot of accupuncture, I do.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Okay, she just got a massage last night after rehearsal,
and it was amazing. That's quite a last puncture. But
I got Thaie Swedish hot rock and deep tissue at
the same hour.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That sounds amazing.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, and pain is good. I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Pain is good.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
You heard it here first, but honestly, Maya, I feel
like we could sit and talk to you for like hours.
You have a great soothing voice too, just your regular
talking voice. It's like, what else happened?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Girl?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I know, I was like, I love her talking. It's
low today because you know, I'm lacking on sleep, so yeah,
it gets a little deeper. I haven't slept.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
But listen, you better come back and join us again.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I know you're on tour and I know you're super busy,
and I do appreciate it because I know MI don't
just show up and do interviews anywhere next time.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, Well, thank you, missus Angela. And you know what,
congratulations on this endeavor.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I know you have your journey as well. Yes, if
you are an entrepreneur, a boss, you know, a woman
that knows herself and owns herself every aspect, and I'd
love to see it. So congratulating you.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I'm gonna get you some juices next time too. You
know I know that we're both into that.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, congratulations on this whole enterprise endeavor and life journey. Yeah,
and it's a pleasure, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm just glad you showed up. I was like, it's
not you're gonna really sit with us, but I appreciate it.
And not that you've ever canceled or anything, but I
was just like, I'm like, main don't do a whole
lot of interviews, So I appreciate you for that so much.
Is there a date by this next project, because I
know you've been put in.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Oh, I mean, which one are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I know you have a few different ones done, but
what's going to be?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I don't announce dates. I've learned that to do that anymore.
But you know, when all the components soon are there,
it is ready, I will make that announcement.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I know, because we've heard Wine featuring Bounty Killer. You know,
I like that, and I feel like you don't want
to be in a specific genre either.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So is that tough?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
No, it's not, because that's why I have different projects.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Okay, so each project might be a different genre, a
specific direction. So what do you have, like three? Four ready?
What do you have for us?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Three are actually already done. Four is a bunch of
stuff that I've revisited with Junior Sanchez and a couple
of other producers just from the archives, and we've rebuilt
a lot of the production. So I'm always in the studio.
You know, it's a playground being an artist. And yeah,
there's just much more to come.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Are label hitting you up and like come on girl
less they've.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Always hit me up. But it's more about making sure
the vision also the outline of the project direction is
very clear for me. And then also the timing and
the other components, the financing, all the components too. Oh
the bag, Yeah, you know it's not cheap, but let's
(40:25):
be clear and making sure that it's also aligning with
who I am when I do release it, because things
get old and you got to go remix it to
reflect how you really feel, so that it's authentic and
true to who you are now because you got to
promote it, you got to really love it and live
in it. And yeah, so you read and.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
You walked away with your masters when you left the labels.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
So I have an old catalog at UMG Universal Music
Group and my whole independent catalog are the masters that
I own. But during an artist career, he tho's a
specific type of time where you can go regain your master's,
re record them, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, yeah, so that's happening. Okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
When you do the live showing, well, thank you so much.
Maya again, and next time, let my Olansky come and
we'll talk to her.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Okay, we like that she's here today.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
All right, Well, my ladies and gentlemen, it's way up.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Well
What's up its way up at Angela. Yeah, I'm here,
Jasmine Brand is here, Yes, but the first time ever,
Maya's in the seat. Hellou and listen, Maya's in town
because you're actually on the Queens of R and B tour.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, So how's that been going so far?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's been amazing. I think we are maybe seventeen or
eighteen shows in there, oh wow, and it's gone by
so fast. But it's such a treat. You know. Those
are all the songs that I grew up on and
the songs that raised me, soundtrack to my teen years,
and I'm singing along with the audience every night. It's
just watching the other ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Isn't it so weird that there's kids now that are like,
I grew up on your music. Yeah, right, Yeah, It's
funny because we're like, I grew up on that, and
then there's people who grew up listening to Maya.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Right. You know, we actually speak about that during the
show talking to the audience. It's just the journey, you know.
Some of us are celebrating twenty plus years, thirty plus
years on stage, so it's just a blessing.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And you signed your first deal at the age of sixteen,
So that was I mean, I mean the music industry
was so different back then.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Too, yeah, than what it is today.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And I saw I remember last year you celebrated twenty
five years since your first album. That's amazing though, because
there's a lot of people who started in this business
who have since been like, all right, I'm done, or
it may not have the longevity that you've had, but
even independently, you were one of the first people to
be like, I'm gonna do my own thing.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, it's been a journey. You know.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
What triggered you going into pendent?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh, well, it's been twenty six years and I was sixteen,
like you mentioned, when I got my first deal offered
by an independent label in Washington, DC. And then I
signed with Interscope in ninety seven ninety eight around that time,
who distributed the first album and transferred to Motown, which
was an R and B label because initially Interscope was
(01:53):
a rap and rock label. Okay, and yeah, that's probably
one of the very first R and B test dummies
to see if they could have an Yeah, and so
it was a great run. I stayed within the Universal
Music System and Umbrella and I just transferred to Motown,
who was specifically R and B and uh. We worked
(02:15):
on my fourth studio album. It was like an accidental release,
you know, really states change, there are different territories in
the world that sometimes don't get the memo, and so
it leaked in Japan and they loved it, and I
got offered a deal independently. I left, of course, Motown
after that situation. But no bad blood things happened. It
(02:35):
was circumstantial, and I just decided to say, hey, okay,
well what's independence. Let me try this out and see
what it's all about. And so I learned immediately along
the way. You know, executive production happened, casting my own producers, assembling,
and album funding of course, and what that looks like. Yeah,
(02:56):
the legal aspect.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, so it was you were doing when it wasn't cool,
being independent, when it wasn't you know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It was different. It was unheard of.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Honestly, you know, I think that also back then it
was a lot harder because it wasn't like we had
social media to directly go to people. It wasn't all
these different outlets. Also, for it wasn't set up to
be independent. It was like, who's going to work the record,
and who's gonna send you to do the radio, who's
going to pay for the marketing budget because sometimes it
(03:25):
is hard to have to fund things yourself too when
you see that money. But at the end of the day,
you're always funny things yourself. You just don't know it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, absolutely, But being independent, the pro of that is
that you see everything coming in and going out. But
you also dictate what your budget is, you know, and
you can make some life decisions and professional decisions simultaneously
and say, well, is this song more important than my
family or you know, radio is very expensive, and you're
(03:54):
also learning as you go as to how much things
really cost because you don't really see a budge break
down when you're sort of going through the most.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You can't tell you anything to.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
A major label artist. You don't see every nickel.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Oh we went out to dinner, so that came out
of your budget. And there's meetings that happened that you're
not even at.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah there, yeah, So you have to call those
shots and make some decisions as far as how fancy
you want to go, as far as the hotels and
the flights and all kinds of things are you taking dancers,
are you taking a fleet of people on the road.
Are you keeping overhead to a minimum? So that's where
the entrepreneur and the business woman comes in constantly.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I've heard artists talk about that how they have to
I've heard artists go on tour and say they came
back with no money and.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You would think possible. Yeah, sure they.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Raked it up.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But if you care enough about your show and you
want to make sure you have dancers, and you want
to make sure your stage is set up properly and
all of that, it costs a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I could tell you this. The independent journey teaches you
how to be everybody simultaneously like my backup. At the
same time, it teaches you to go grond mind in
ways that yeah, people may talk really bad about you initially,
but it also teaches you to improv and figure it
out as you go without a lot of things, the funding,
the budget, the hair and makeup. Sometimes you got to
(05:12):
be that too, the travel agent, everything, sewing stylist. You
have to learn how to do that and fall on
yourself because there's not always going to be somebody available
or within your budget constraints.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And I think It's a good skill to have to
because there's been times you go on the road and
if somebody if you don't like your makeup, what are.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You going to do? What are you supposed to do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Thanks, Now you came in here with this Prince T shirt.
I told you I had that same T shirt. And
Prince was also very big in your life. And he
was also a person who who talked about record labels
and being independent quite a bit too.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So what are some things you learned from Prince?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Well, he's a phenomenal talent, first of all, and he
really really cared about his artistry, and I think coming
from that very sensitive place of protection and something that
he loves but also is his God given gift, he
wanted to protect that for the next generation, for those
that he obviously believed in could have longevity or cared
(06:12):
about their craft, and to make sure that at least
in some way, shape or form, they maintained spiritual independence,
financial independence, a mindset to always move forward in independence,
even if you are partnered with a major label, because
a lot of times you do have to do things
(06:32):
in order for them to catch up or jump on
the pan wagon, etc. But to protect your art is
to also protect your mind, your sanity, because a lot
of us breathe music. We cannot exist or function without
music in our lives every day, or utilizing a gift.
There's also all kinds of business models that he played with,
(06:54):
as far as incorporating the CD to count for a sale,
that you see code inside of his concert tickets, working
in tandem with AEG and Live Nation, and not necessarily
sticking to the structure and the older structure that a
lot of us were used to coming from the major
label system. And obviously the world is always changing, so
(07:16):
he was ahead of his time and his vision. But
I think it was more protection and care. And he'd
been fighting since he was probably in his teens, eighteen nineteen,
even twenties, till the time he ascended for ownership of
his masters, and he regained some many of them. I
(07:39):
don't think he regained Purple Rain, but he thought it
was very important because he pretty much did everything.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You see his estate.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Now they're having this whole thing with his documentary that's
supposed to come out. It was like a six part series.
I want to see it so bad, but I understand
I wanted to make sure that it's done properly, because
they said there were some issues, you know, within that,
and it's hard, you know how much he controlled everything
that he had going on, and he's not here to say,
(08:06):
you know, this is true, this is not true.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What's your favorite, Prince saw Oh, that's very very hard.
I have to break it, break it down in categories,
you know. You know, probably the favorite slow jam would
be insatiable, actually insatiable when I'm riding in my car,
you know, on a road trip. It might be controversy. Okay,
(08:30):
there's there's a lot of you don't have one of all,
like just no, there's too much of a catalogue.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
A lot of different yeah, and even songs that he
wrote for other people. People don't even understand.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Crystal Ball album is amazing. There's just so many
non singles as well, and untapped territory that many of
us haven't even heard. Gems that are my favorites as well.
But it's very hard to choose, Like Prince.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
My favorite prints on I love that song so much yours,
you know, and even the movie Purple Rain that is
like an iconic thing that I feel like no one's
ever can recreate the impact of a Purple Rain to
this day and the soundtrack that went along with it.
But I seem like we all are prince all right now.
(09:21):
Since this is your first time here, we definitely got
to get into some Maya history, you know, because we
haven't had you on the show before. So talk to
me about a young Maya signing her first deal. Because
I know you did go to college for a hot
stint and your father was also a singer, right, So
how did they feel about you saying this is what
I want to pursue full time.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Well, my dad, it's still doing his thing, Like music
runs through his veins and something that he has to
do constantly, so he's always gigging old school term and
runs his own business as well. And I watched him
a lot growing up, whether it's in the studio recording
or preparing for a live show. His band would always
(10:01):
be over the house, in the garage or the living room.
Neighbors complaining all the time, but music is in our veins.
So yeah, both of my parents were my managers at
the time. Prior to that, you know, I was involved
in the arts a lot and in school throughout my
entire grade years. You played the violin, Yeah, gospel choir, violin,
(10:24):
you know, all kinds of arts.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
What kind of band I've lived in DC like twenty
plus years?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Oh really?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
What kind of Was it a go go band that
he was in or was it just soul or what
was it? It was in everything band mostly so funk,
R and B and then of course they did you know,
corporate gigs as well, in Top forty as well, covers,
but everything and anything with my dad. But I was
exposed to the arts very very early on in my childhood.
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And I was initially a tap dancer, hope for so you.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Say all of it.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I came to New y when I was about ten
with my mom tap dance in the Macy's Day Parade.
Oh yeah, she really was, and major reds, all kinds
of stuff. I saw Jelly's Last Jem starring Gregory Hines
when I was ten years old. It changed my life,
and I thought Broadway would be something that I would
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pursue after studying of course theater in college, etc. But
things happened, and actually three tap dance one of my
friends shout out to Baccari Wilder with my first dance partner,
we would all you know, kind of be freestyle and
just doing things on our breaks lunch breaks, and he
encourage me to sing because I would sing. And so
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it was my peers through the arts that encouraged me
to say, oh, you should really take this seriously and
record as your dad if you can go to a
studio or something like that. So I did, and you know,
being a dad and the entertainment business that's lasting, he
would probably want for his daughter. But they were very
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supportive parents, both of my parents, and I thought, hey,
she has the experience, the discipline through the arts, well,
we'll do what we can to invest in recording demos, etc.
And it was very basement musician friend of my dad's
basement just to start, and then it eventually my parents
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put together like fifteen hundred dollars, which was a lot
of money back then to record my very first professional
demo and Hockey Islam from University Music Entertainment. And while
I was in high school, he was an independent label
that had pure soul girl gospel group Drew Hill at
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the time from Baltimore, Okay. And he was actually looking
for a young female artist that he could sign, and
I was local to Washington, DC, Maryland, PG County area.
My dad always had his had my demo tape, my
bio and all of that. Eight by ten.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It was right and recorded on another double tape recording.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Okay, yeah, And he heard it and he said, well,
I want to check her out and see if she
can sing live. So he came to my house after
school one day. I came downstairs. I wasn't prepared, but
I sang a couple songs acapella for him, and he
offered me an independent deal, and I spent about two
years recording from ninety six to ninety seven, and released
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my very first album in ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, see, And that's kind of what you call artist
development because it wasn't like you just put out a
song right away. Because now it's like sometimes things go
viral and artists aren't ready for that.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I mean, as a teenager, how ready can you be
unless that's your full time everything with tutoring, et cetera.
But I've learned a lot along the way. You know,
you do what you can when the opportunity knocks. You
might not be one hundred percent, but you go for it,
you know. And I think, of course, twenty six years
later and I better have of course improved right in
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every aspect of my life, career, womanhood, and rightfully so.
So it's a blessing. I read and I don't know
how to do this is I read that you you know,
when you were growing up in DC, there are some
points where you were bullied. Of course, I mean kids
are mean as hey, well, everybody goes through it.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Ye know what was that experience like for you? When
did that make you shy? More shy than to make
you stronger?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It made me everything. It made me very much an
introvert but also an extrovert in places that I felt
material things were not the focus, aesthetics were not the focus,
but maybe a common denominator, a common goal. The arts
is where I felt safe say it saves lives because
everyone is focused on something together versus what you're wearing,
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what you don't have, how you look. I mean, teenagers
we go through so many different phases, hormonally, clicks, validation, acceptance,
body changes, a lot of things. And of course we
live in a society that's very materialistic, and school can
be very very much a task just to get through,
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to try to not even fit in, but just get
through the day. By fitting in so that you're not
a focal point and you're just blended and stay out
of the way. Because it's still like that in many
different places. I was one of those kids that prayed
for uniforms, you know what I'm saying. It was a task,
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like an hour trying to decide what I was going
to wear the night before so I would not get teased.
And that's not even my personality to even focus on
outfits and being a part of a clique. But it's
just to get by. So I understand, even with social media,
I don't understand what these kids today have to go through.
(16:03):
Oh yeah, they are connected globally, globally, and.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
At any moment, something can make you go viral that
you did not anticipate.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, I mean even as an adult, that's true. You
say the wrong thing or say a sound bite and
then it gets clipped, etcetera. So it's a lot of
filtering and you can never be safe. You just like lunches.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I like that you were able to share that though,
because that will help people, because people might look at
you Maya and be like, there's no way she's always
been flying lit.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But being able to say.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That it's something for kids who are coming up and
maybe going through it, or some for bullies to understand
you might be bullying the next maya.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Maybe you need to sit down and chill out.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
But it is an important discussion to have because sometimes
I think people see us as adults and think we
always had confidence and always had it like that.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I had anxiety getting ready for this interview today. I'm like,
oh my gosh, this curl is not curling over here,
like what's going on? It's raining outside earlier, it's going
to be on camera.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, so it's a lifelong thing.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, when you're dealing with opinions, and of course the
world is full of them, and we're all now connected globally,
not even regionally in your little community or your block,
it's globally. Everyone has an opinion and you're never safe,
and you have to understand that not every day is
going to be perfect. And I think we can all
(17:24):
learn from perfectionism. No one's perfect, but we are perfectly
made and no one's your maker. And so I think
that's where spirituality is key, and owning every part of
yourself and understanding there's going to be some bad days.
Horrific moments and rolling with the punches and also learning
how to laugh and not taking everything so seriously but
with a grain of salt. And that's where foundation comes in.
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And it takes time.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And knowing that things go away pretty fast. Like sometimes
things are a big deal to us, but the rest
of the world is like, it's not that big a deal.
But even though to us it is, it's okay to
have that moment, but then you have to be like,
all right, something else is going to happen. And this
was slide right over. Now, So you did go to
college for a semester. What were you going to go
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to college for?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Well, I actually didn't know at the time. I just
enrolled for speech communications. That's not something that was my passion.
I was taking dance as well, but I didn't know.
Nothing actually called me that I was solid in making
a decision on. So it was just going through the motions.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, you felt like you're supposed to do this is
what you do, you graduate, go to college.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, but it was not where my heart was now
living life. Of course, I would totally study psychology, you know,
and maybe holistic healing. Being through the journey I've been on,
so I have a lot more clarity just with life experience.
As far as studies are concerned, it doesn't necessarily have
(18:55):
to be college either, might be independent education. So yeah,
there's a lot of pressure to conform to societal standards,
and I think it's very important. Education is key everywhere,
but it doesn't necessarily mean the traditional way. Sometimes a
year off just traveling or experiencing life can give clarity
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versus wasting four years or eight years.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm a forever student, I always say, because you know,
I'm quick to take a class on something. I don't
have to necessarily go to traditional school, but I will
be like, oh maybe I should get license in this
or nutrition is something I've always been interested into. That's
why people talk about your journey with becoming a vegan
a lot, because they attribute that also to how good
(19:40):
you look, just as far as like healthy, youthful, that
looks like okay, she's eating her fruits and vegetables.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
The skin is skinning.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
The skin is skinning for sure, you know, And so
talk about that journey with veganism and even I think
clarity in your mind too.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well. It all started with my independent journey. I started
creating these challenges of discipline to sharpen my mind and
my spirit taking away something that I absolutely really loved
or felt like I was addicted to because it was
a psychological thing that I felt like I had to
build for myself and also learn how to trust myself
in moments that something might have been taken away from
(20:17):
me again. And so it was really something that I
made an effort to do every single year, and it
led me to vegetarianism, which also led me to veganism
and taking it a step further in learning what that was,
(20:37):
but also the different tears. Oh, there's a lot of
process food doesn't mean healthy?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And just learning how to do better and also identify
where I'm slipping, you know, and how I need to
do better and so I can show up better for others.
It starts with me. It's always a challenge, especially on
the road with processed food, traveling processed food. There's a
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lot of restaurants out here nowadays and make it so
easy to go vegan, but I make it a point
to try to stay more clean at least a balance
so I have my fruits and my smoothies and my
juices and my tonics in the morning and do aurble
cleanses and detoxes because it's necessary. Because I love to
eat and I love to cook, and I love to
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pick out too. Because it's just so much great food.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Vegan food. What do you take?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yesterday I had vegan and jerk chicken salad and a
Nashville Hot vegan chicken wrap. I'm like, it's so much
in New York City too.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I can't get into fake cheese, that's the one.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Don't mind it.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I don't really like fake cheese. It's hard to find
a good one.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Like fake cheese to me sometimes can be very cardboardy tasting.
I feel like I could do vegetarian, but I need
some real cheese. I can't do vegan because of that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
There are actually brands within like the last five to
ten years that have tremendously improved and it tastes like,
you know, the real thing, but much much better and
easier to go vegan now.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, it is easier because I feel like playing you
go places. Yeah, you do have to make sure. It
takes a lot of discipline. And you talk about discipline,
What were some of the other things that you said,
I'm giving this up, like when you were disciplining yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Celibacy wine, any kind of alcohol you can just skip.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Over celebrating celibacy wine.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of social drinking. There's
a lot of free bottles in your section, you know,
when you're doing club dates and all kinds of stuff.
It's just always around you. Not that I had any addiction.
I never did, but I do love wine, and so
I just gave it up for a year just because
it is right. I can do without it. Why not
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start with that? And actually that's the first thing that
I started with, is no wine?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, how about now do you drink?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah? I actually have a wine on my own. It's
vegan organic Naji and brought it. It takes to order
that we should order, but yeah, I'll send you guys
a bottle.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We're gonna have order.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
What support? What about this celibacy thing?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah? What was the longest you went? Oh? Seven years?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Seven years?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Seven like a divine and then did you?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Then you seven is a long that's a good.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That's a good. Now what did that do for you? Though? Like,
when you think about your celibacy, did it clear? Like,
what did it do for you. What did you notice?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Mental clarity, I'm just doing without. It shifted my mindset.
It was no longer a focus the rush to be
in a relationship, the rush to be married, the rush
to be in something, because that's what you're taught to do,
to have kids or pro create, and I think there's
a lot of pressure on women to be able to
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do that and also feeling valid. You know why we
taught that we have to be taken or made an
honest woman in my liar. You know, there's a lot
of things is beautiful with that. You know, love is beautiful,
and I think the world always needs more of it.
But I think you must start with yourself. And I
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have to start with self always versus expecting from other sources.
So it was just reconditioning, and I think it's something
that was necessary because it's a very spiritual thing and
you must be very selective if you want better results.
And so I think that's self accountability. And it started
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with me by just shutting that part of my life off.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, it feels like that sounds worth it that you
have my landski, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, But you talk about that and people having things
to say, because that is tough too, like a lot
of people went away, and why she ain't wiped up,
why she ain't got this, why she ain't got that.
And people also don't know your life because to be clear,
Maya don't be putting her business out there like that.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, well there's a reason for that, because, yeah, you
grow up semi sex symbol. There's a lot of things
that are said about you, and you ingest all of that,
you process or try to process all of that at
an early age, and then the esthetic that you may
come with is totally opposite of who you actually really are,
(25:30):
and it intersects in your life while you're trying to
date or maybe taking photos with other celebrities, and so
it can get very tricky. But I think a lot
of things that are sacred should just remain private for
me until of course solid I'm ready and the foundation
of us is together, and even then it's a risk.
(25:52):
So I don't really play with that part of my
life publicly.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I can't imagine you come out publicly with anyone. I
can imagine it. I'll be like, what.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Just because I've never.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Like that, but we've never heard.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But I'm not mad at it, But I'm not mad
at that at all.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I just have to be ready, you know, and Sody
and he got to be ready, and.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's a lot of pressure for guys.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I'll be like, what, Yeah, it's very weird, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And so let me ask you this. And when you
first put out it's all about me and that sound.
That was a huge smash song for you. What was
your mentality like at that time?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh, my mentality was well, there were so many different mentalities.
This was my first shot, first introduction to the world. Cisco,
Drew Hill, they were all my labor label mates. They
were very instrumental and the Push. I was also a
test dummy at the time and right Innerscope like the
(26:51):
first R and B artist.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
It worked, It.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Worked, and you know, nothing is guaranteed in this life.
So it was just a one day at a time
process or mentality for me. Let's just take it one
day at a time. I know that I have the discipline.
I know that I believe in me. I hope they
believe in me. Let's keep all emotions to a minimum
and learn as you go and then apply everything that
(27:18):
you did with all of your masters, your teachers, the
ones that made you get it right, get it right,
no shortcuts, And there were a lot of horrific moments. Uh,
you don't know how to conduct a sound check, you
don't know what radio drops are. You're learning as you go,
and so you're very vulnerable and life just teaches you
as you go. You're gonna fall in your face a
(27:39):
lot of times, and that's what I did. But they
were my best lessons.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
You know, it's interesting you talk about being like the test,
I mean, because you did have a lot of hip
hop collapse. Yeah, I did, and so so that was
was that the label like we're gonna put self the
shaker on this, We're gonna put jay.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Z, you and jay Z. I mean, they were good.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
They were all bangers to say so.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
There was a magical era nineties where R and B
and hip hop became fused together. Mary J. Blige was
one of the first to do it. Yeah, that whole movement,
and I was very lucky to be a part of that.
On the end of course, ninety seven ninety eight, and
(28:22):
it was just a part of the culture. You know,
happy fifty one years to hip hop, by the way,
So it was a beautiful time. Everything was so exciting,
and some of it was my idea because that's just
what I grew up on. The labels, the independent labels.
We thought it just made a different synergy. There's different
fan bases when you fuse the two together in different regions. Also,
(28:46):
there was no limit in the South. Then you have
the New York cluster of like hip hop classic artists.
So it was a blessing to work with everybody.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And Lady Marmalade, think about what a huge, huge moment that.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Way the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, we're going to get to that because it feels
like that's your passion too.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Though, Like now as you are making these decisions, seeing
all these Caribbean artists that you choose to work with,
I like that, you know, because that's her jam. Better
to hear you with that Jock Cure with a Bounty
Killer with BC Beanie Man, I saw you said, Shaggy
Yeah as well.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's feel good music. I love to be in company
with people that just exude joy and happiness and love
to work with each other, and that's a part of
the culture. So and I love to be in the Islands,
that's a fact. And it's it's global music too. And
you know nothing like summertime music as well. So would
(29:48):
you be open to like doing afrobeats or I'm always open.
Every genre is ground Junior Sanchez.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We saw you doing a lot of great collaborations country.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Yeah, you know little step tap dance, so know how
to do everything music.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
It's just how you feel.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Have you ever thought about, you know, Broadway or Dancing
with the Stars or.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Oh yeah, so I did season nine of Dancing with
the Stars.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I felt like that was yeah, yeah, because I know
everybody saying that at the time too. I remember they
were Maya could dance.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I wasn't pressed for a mirror ball, but I did
want to make sure I just didn't mess up every
d live TV. I was so nervous every night. I've
never done that kind of dance before. You know, that's
not something that I grew up doing. And you're learning
different types of styles and techniques every single week, and
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it's grueling, but it's it's beautiful. It's live television, though,
and you can't fumble, So the nerves were sky high.
I learned a lot. I had an amazing dance partner teacher,
and it was a learning experience. But yeah, it also
works very differently. You can be perfect all day long
on Dancing with the Stars. It's about that. It's about
(31:09):
the votes, that's a fact. It's about your fan base.
It's about people calling in if they think you're safe
and they're not voting because oh, you just got perfect tense.
That's where you can get off the show. You know what.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I watched for you though, because when you were on there,
I was like, Maya is gonna kill it, and you did.
I'm gonna be honest, just because I just like, thank you.
What do you love to do outside of work?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Just yeah, outside of what we know about you, like
a day off for mine.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I'm so country, I am. I love animals. I just
love to go lay in the grass. I bought a
tent during the pandemic. I slept outside stargaze. I'm really simple,
you know. I love the ocean. I love just to
be in nature. Traveling is one of probably the top three. Okay, yeah,
(32:08):
adventure of course, skydiving a couple of times, and skydiving
a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Action, I think, yeah, skydivings. You know, I think I
should watched some videos I shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I love comedy too.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, okay, we are all.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Angela likes comed it's one of your favorite comedians, not
the favorite, but.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
One of your school old school Richard Pryor.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, there's so many though. I just I love comedians.
I think Jake Dave Chappelle is a genius. What he's
very DC so he does it so dry but so amazing.
It's strategic. Man.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I could see have to come to Yellow Springs's about to.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Hook that Upah, listen, you about to go to Yellow
Springs to day's comedy shows in the cornfields. But he
opened up like a comedy club out there too.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I have to that experience. How was Time Essence Festival?
I had about twenty six hours in New Orleans and
we drove from Little Rock, Arkansas from the tour and
I was up for a straight forty eight to seventy
two and I hit about six or seven events up
all on one day Alca Changes. It was beautiful because
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I actually never really got the chance to be fully
engulfed in essencevest my entire career, to actually spend a
day going to different booths and different things are going
on all over the place. And see so many people,
shake hands, take photos and exchange words. I've done performances
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or like a kickoff party as well, but then we
had to leave immediately in the past. But this was
a day where I got to see first of all,
one of my inspirations is Queen of Fula. Oh I've
worked with. I know Queen host a vegan panel with her.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
She has those amazing you I had. I have her
book too, yeah, Sacred Woman. Yeah, yeah, amazing Okay, So
and I know.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
They love you at Essence too.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Really yeah everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh yeah, I could to see so many people that
I've never met, but I feel like I've met Peky
and I have spoken. But oh in Queen of Floyd
and I also we've worked together virtually, especially during the pandemic,
you know, leading detoxes, but we've never met, but it
felt like she I met her and this is the
first time we actually got a chance to see each
(34:35):
other face to face, hug and brace each other. So yeah,
so many people were out, It's it turned into like
a whole jam session at the film Moore. Raheem DeVaughn
was there, Blau came through, Anthony Hamilton was there, everybody
was singing Luke James. The mics were on, but everybody
was singing, freestyling, and so it was just a jam
(34:55):
session moment.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Because I feel like you don't just run into Maya anywhere,
like it has to be.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
She's there for a like, we just don't run into her.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
I get told I'm not outside outside and that I'm
always like hustling. I'm always doing the show, traveling, working
on the paperwork, whatever it is. But this was a
treat for me because I never really get to be
outside outside like that. But we liked it in the mix.
We like that, do more of it.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I feel like, is there going to be a time
and we'll get a full Maya story from Maya if
that's what y'all want, sure, because there's so much. I
feel like there's so much we don't know that you
went through because think about it in that business, like
you blew up at such a young early age and
like you said, you were a sex symb but but
you were so young, people saying things about you that
weren't true, and having to go through that and then
(35:44):
becoming independent at a time when it wasn't so popular,
and just your whole journey into spirituality.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I feel like there's a lot about.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It that you know, Oh yeah, we don't have no idea, no,
but I'm saying I think people would love to to
hear that, maya just from you, because somebody who has
maintained themselves in this business the way that you have,
that's been consistent that still today, like people are so
excited to meet you and see you out because, like
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you said, people have told you we don't get to
see you outside like that.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I just think I will make more of an effort
to take less shows and outside a little bit more,
you know, But it matters because the magic that happens
and also the relationships that happen with balance. You know,
I need to practice more balance, and I know that
when I see the magic happened in my life, when
(36:39):
oh I can go work out and do a little
bit more in that area than I'm supposed to do
versus just hustling, hustling hustling or make time, you know,
for my friends and my family and myself, it's very important.
Money is not everything. Hustles not everything. So that's been
a very difficult listen, being an independent artist, always in
(36:59):
fight or fly, always in investment mode, always in a grind, grind, grind,
like it's never gonna come. But also I realized just
within the last two three years, it's very important to
create balance in your life. Otherwise you're gonna pay for it. Yeah,
the hard way. Your knees are not kneeing anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
A lot of accupuncture, I do.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Okay, she just got a massage last night after rehearsal,
and it was amazing. That's quite a last puncture. But
I got Thaie Swedish hot rock and deep tissue at
the same hour.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That sounds amazing.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, and pain is good. I love it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Pain is good.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
You heard it here first, but honestly, Maya, I feel
like we could sit and talk to you for like hours.
You have a great soothing voice too, just your regular
talking voice. It's like, what else happened?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Girl?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I know, I was like, I love her talking. It's
low today because you know, I'm lacking on sleep, so yeah,
it gets a little deeper. I haven't slept.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
But listen, you better come back and join us again.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I know you're on tour and I know you're super busy,
and I do appreciate it because I know MI don't
just show up and do interviews anywhere next time.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, Well, thank you, missus Angela. And you know what,
congratulations on this endeavor.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I know you have your journey as well. Yes, if
you are an entrepreneur, a boss, you know, a woman
that knows herself and owns herself every aspect, and I'd
love to see it. So congratulating you.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I'm gonna get you some juices next time too. You
know I know that we're both into that.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, congratulations on this whole enterprise endeavor and life journey. Yeah,
and it's a pleasure, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm just glad you showed up. I was like, it's
not you're gonna really sit with us, but I appreciate it.
And not that you've ever canceled or anything, but I
was just like, I'm like, main don't do a whole
lot of interviews, So I appreciate you for that so much.
Is there a date by this next project, because I
know you've been put in.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Oh, I mean, which one are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I know you have a few different ones done, but
what's going to be?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I don't announce dates. I've learned that to do that anymore.
But you know, when all the components soon are there,
it is ready, I will make that announcement.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I know, because we've heard Wine featuring Bounty Killer. You know,
I like that, and I feel like you don't want
to be in a specific genre either.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So is that tough?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
No, it's not, because that's why I have different projects.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Okay, so each project might be a different genre, a
specific direction. So what do you have, like three? Four ready?
What do you have for us?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Three are actually already done. Four is a bunch of
stuff that I've revisited with Junior Sanchez and a couple
of other producers just from the archives, and we've rebuilt
a lot of the production. So I'm always in the studio.
You know, it's a playground being an artist. And yeah,
there's just much more to come.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Are label hitting you up and like come on girl
less they've.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Always hit me up. But it's more about making sure
the vision also the outline of the project direction is
very clear for me. And then also the timing and
the other components, the financing, all the components too. Oh
the bag, Yeah, you know it's not cheap, but let's
(40:25):
be clear and making sure that it's also aligning with
who I am when I do release it, because things
get old and you got to go remix it to
reflect how you really feel, so that it's authentic and
true to who you are now because you got to
promote it, you got to really love it and live
in it. And yeah, so you read and.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
You walked away with your masters when you left the labels.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
So I have an old catalog at UMG Universal Music
Group and my whole independent catalog are the masters that
I own. But during an artist career, he tho's a
specific type of time where you can go regain your master's,
re record them, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, yeah, so that's happening. Okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
When you do the live showing, well, thank you so much.
Maya again, and next time, let my Olansky come and
we'll talk to her.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Okay, we like that she's here today.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
All right, Well, my ladies and gentlemen, it's way up.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Well
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