August 5, 2024 • 11 mins
Stan Norfleet and Chris Gordy of Next Up react to former Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson's induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, becoming the first Texans players to receive the honor. The Texans selected Johnson with the third overall pick in the 2003 NFL Draft, and Johnson would play 12 seasons in Houston. During his enshrinement speech, Johnson addressed the current Texans team that was in attendance: "To the team, the Houston Texans that are here, I hope you guys really take this in, enjoy it, cherish it, because one day, one of you guys are going to be standing up here." Stan and Chris debate who on the Texans roster they think could eventually make the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Next seth continues, it was about having next. Okay, here's
stat North, Chris Cordy, It's about having next. Okay. Sports sucks.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To the team, the Houston Texans that out here.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I hope you guys really take this in, enjoy it,
chaerishit because one day one of you guys can be
standing up here. Man the migo. I love you, brother,
I appreciation.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
See the dirty South bost.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Newly enshrined Andre Johnson the first textan to go in
the Pro Football Hall of Fame Saturday, late morning, early afternoon.
All of the Texans and organization, uh, everybody was there,
former teammates. I got a couple of text messages guys
that were flying in UH, and they were going to
celebrate Andre. Welcome back in the next forty minutes from now.
(00:57):
Matt Thomas, Rossville, Ria, coming your way for the met uh, Gordy.
I did not get a chance to see the entire speech.
I was on my way over to NRG. There was
a soccer match and I had to do some volunteering,
so I did not get a chance to fully sit
down and actually watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Obviously I had to squeeze in the Astros as well.
But I thought Dre did a very nice job. I thought,
you know, Kubiak was cool and uh, it was just
a great moment. I thought for the organization message from
Andre to the guys that are in attendance right there,
so and let's have some fun with it. There are
some people, Hell, if Demico keeps going and we haven't
(01:37):
said this yet and it's way early, it's been one season.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
There are some people that have said Demiko Ryans, by
the time he's done coaching, would be one of the
greatest coaches in the history of the NFL. There are
those that feel that way. If we were to pivot
to the players, Gordon, who do you say, thus far
has like a Hall of fame track of the young
players that are on this team, or even some of
the veterans. Would it surprised you if fifteen years from
(02:03):
now c J. Stride has put together a Hall of
Fame resume, would it shock you?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Gosh, we put the cart before we're doing going in
and miss arguments over whether Andre Johnson was Hall of Fame.
We're ready to put Demko and CJ in. No, I
mean Wesba Wex brought up a good uh good case
last week. We don't talk enough about Will Anderson. I
(02:31):
mean what he just did. He won Defensive Rookie the Year. Quietly,
Yet every time we talk about the Texans, it starts
with Demico and CJ or CJ. Demico and it's like
they get so much of the love. If Will Anderson
Junior keeps developing, I mean, he he could turn into
you know, Danil Hunter. I think has put himself in
a really good spot his career to be, you know,
a potential Hall of Famer. I don't know that Daniel
(02:53):
Hunter is there. We'll see. I mean, look at what
he's look at what he's done.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
If if I were a gambling man, I would not
put money down that the Nil Hunter gets into the
Hall of Fame. I would be uncomfortable doing that. And
he's not a young guy. He's a little long into
two by nfls. He is sixty third in all time sacks.
Stan you think Miles Garrett's gonna be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No question? First about Daniel Hunter is one sack behind him.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And nobody believes that right now, nobody believes that Nil
Hunter would get in. And I hate why is that
because the number is proven. He's right there, sack is
one stack. So here's for me how I gauge Hall
of fame in any sport. The first thing I do
before we get into the numbers, before I start thinking back,
start thinking back to performances and playoffs and all that posty.
(03:40):
First thing I do is I ask myself a question.
In the era said player participated, can we write a
history of the era they played in? Without said player,
you will not be able to talk about edge defender
the game of pro football in this era. By the
(04:00):
time he's done. Without Miles Garrett, I'm not there with
Daniel Hunter. That's just for me. For starters, you bring
up a great part.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Five seasons of double digit sacks for those fourteen and
a half or twelve and a half or more, two
fourteen and a half seasons and last year his career
best sixteen and a half sacks.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Last year, Miles Garrett is out there with tackles for loss.
He's out there with bad it passes, He's out there
with pressures, He's out there with hits on the quarterback.
He does it from the left side, he does it
from the right side. I've seen him reduced down to
the three technique and get some penetration from the middle.
Miles Garrett is excellent at what he does.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
If Daniel Hunter repeats what he did last year or
has some semblance of what he just did, he will
be close to He'll be knocking on the door of
top thirty all time sacks.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'm not prepared to down that hill. You seem like
you'd like to, which is funny, say you know maybe,
And he's only been a link since twenty fifteen. It's
not like he's played even played a decade yet.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm just he comes here and he does what he's
been doing in Minnesota for two three four years. Here,
he will he will jump into the top twenty all
time sacks and he will definitely be in a conversation
for Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
The better conversation is Larmy Tonsen. Tons has been all
pro and I don't have his profile lam Larmy Tonsel
right now to me is not in Hall of Famer.
He strings together another three four five years at this level.
Like to me, Larimer Tonsil is on the same type
of trajectory as who's my guy that was in Dallas?
(05:37):
He now went to the Jets, Ty tyd Smith, Ty's
gonna get in.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
He was excellent.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He was a bed rock win healthy for the Cowboys
we're doing and the playoff appearances and the divisions and
all of that. I think Tonsill needs another three, four
five seasons to get in. He's their best chance. I
think around you know shows, no those wide receivers. It's early,
Like Steph Diggs. I don't think Steph Diggs is a candidate,
(06:07):
not right now. Mmm yeah, Tank, I need to see
a lot more. And I'm not hating Joe Mixon. No,
I'm bouncing around defense. Derek Stingley, Can Derek Stingley cut
it on the last eight to ten years of his
career and get it done? Cause Thing this is your
three fasting does Thing has seven, eight, nine more years
(06:30):
at an all pro level, give or tape.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I mean that's tough. It's and it's tough for DB's Uh.
It feels like like you got to be a household
name to be a all.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You know, you know how you go become a household
name by taking the ball away and being damn good.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, I'm playing a bigger market. Helps Sauce Gardner is
a household name Derek Stingley isn't yet so but no,
like if we're handicapping, like Larry Tuns will be your
best chance of becoming a future all famer. I would
put Daniel Hudder probably second, just because track record, and
then c J.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Striude and Will Anderson. I'd put CJ having a better
chance than Daniel. I would put Will Anderson behind d
nil right now.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's tough though, because Dadial has a track like his
track Cork. He's shown it already.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
When the Texans announced that Danil Hunter had been signed here,
and this is a little different because he's from the area,
but half the Texas fan base had no idea who
Deniel Hunter was. Half the league, I don't know about that.
People don't know who he is, Like, I don't know
why you get this. I personally, I love the player.
I'm so happy he's y'all know what to do. He
(07:40):
is an infinite upgrade. Oh with Jon Fagernart, No disrespect JG.
He's just a better player. I'm happy he's here, but
most people to know who he was. Half the fan
base had no idea who Deniel Hunt was.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
They got it. I mean the guy's closing the closing
in on a hundred career side.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Do you think people watch Minnesota Viking football in his name?
Even thirty? Yet he's twenty nine? Do you think people
watch Minnesota Vikings?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, but isn't that more on the people than it
is on the player?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now, the voters into the Hall, the writers, they know
who he is, but you still have to have people
make a case. I mean, look how long and how
hard it was Andre to get in, and he's currently
tied with Leonard Little.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Leonard Little is one of the best defensive players to
ever played. No, he's not.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He's and that's my mains tie. Let him know the
man person, Willie McGinnis Hall of Famer, Right, Willie McGinnis
is a legitimate Hall of Fame ahead of him. I'm sorry, Oh,
Willie McInnis. How many playoff wins and Super Bowls as
he have? I get it, But that's the individual players,
that's a part of it. Just has the ball out, No, no, no, no.
The writers determine the criteria and what you do in
the postseason. To them, Mattis, he's ahead of Everson Griffin,
(08:46):
Ocia Minora, Howie Long Roll Long is arguably the top
four defensive lineman in the history of the game, hunters
ahead of those guys.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You're using one metric. I'm not done. I'm done argument
defensively and defensive lineman. The sack it's the biggest. It's
not the only man.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Nobody goes how many tackles for a loss. But you're
not giving me anything else other than that. Give me
some other stuff. You can't give me anything postseason with Denil.
You can't give me marketability and acclaim.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
With Denil.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You're giving me one metric to stat and putting him
up with the other guys. It is commendable at the
same time for me, not there yet, time Boil, I
understand that. I said that when he was signed. Let
me hear from Dre again. Drey wanted to do something here.
I talked with Mama Fleet over the weekend. She's doing better.
She's been in the hospital a couple of times here
the last two weeks or so. Uh So, love on
(09:36):
my mom. I know many of you do. Andre Johnson
specially connection with his mom. Mom was there seeing her
son get his shrine. What was that like, Dre. I
want to thank my.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Mom all your hard work, sacrifice, dedication. It didn't go unnoticed.
The way you raised me and my little brother. It
was a hall of fame effort. Today, Ma, you going
to hall.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Of fame like that?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Shout out to all the Hall of Fame moms within
the sound of my voice, wherever you are. Miss Monica's
one of them, Mama Fleet of course, Gord there. If
you choose to do whatever you choose to do with that,
that's on you. But I want to recognize the moms
and the family. A lot of people behind the scenes
that help these gentlemen get to that podium and don
that gold jacket.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What did you think about the bust?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I saw that on social that people weren't in love
with Andre's bus. Did you have an issue? Was it
a good job?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Not so much. I don't. I didn't like Julius Pepper's
bus coming from you. It's hard, yeah, I mean, it's
hard to look like the actual person.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Some of them are really good. I don't know. I'm
kind of indifferent on dras. They I appreciate the waves. Yeah,
they got the waves.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You got to get the waves. They got the beady eyes.
But yeah, it's a little too much going on in
the forehead.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
All right, some guys that are tracking for Hall of Fame,
you have not had a chance to come in on this.
By the way, the NFL players have Miles Garrett at
number five in the top one hundred list. There was
an absolute catastrophe as it pertains to the ranking of
the top one hundred. We mentioned you have not had
a chance to respond the Texans that were on that list.
We'll continue to do NFL some other tidbits that indirectly
(11:15):
impact the Texans on the other side, we'll see. Can
we hear from Demiico and some players around eleven thirty,
half an hour from now. Matt Thomas, Ross Villyal Sports Talk,
seven ninety
Next seth continues, it was about having next. Okay, here's
stat North, Chris Cordy, It's about having next. Okay. Sports sucks.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To the team, the Houston Texans that out here.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I hope you guys really take this in, enjoy it,
chaerishit because one day one of you guys can be
standing up here. Man the migo. I love you, brother,
I appreciation.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
See the dirty South bost.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Newly enshrined Andre Johnson the first textan to go in
the Pro Football Hall of Fame Saturday, late morning, early afternoon.
All of the Texans and organization, uh, everybody was there,
former teammates. I got a couple of text messages guys
that were flying in UH, and they were going to
celebrate Andre. Welcome back in the next forty minutes from now.
(00:57):
Matt Thomas, Rossville, Ria, coming your way for the met uh, Gordy.
I did not get a chance to see the entire speech.
I was on my way over to NRG. There was
a soccer match and I had to do some volunteering,
so I did not get a chance to fully sit
down and actually watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Obviously I had to squeeze in the Astros as well.
But I thought Dre did a very nice job. I thought,
you know, Kubiak was cool and uh, it was just
a great moment. I thought for the organization message from
Andre to the guys that are in attendance right there,
so and let's have some fun with it. There are
some people, Hell, if Demico keeps going and we haven't
(01:37):
said this yet and it's way early, it's been one season.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
There are some people that have said Demiko Ryans, by
the time he's done coaching, would be one of the
greatest coaches in the history of the NFL. There are
those that feel that way. If we were to pivot
to the players, Gordon, who do you say, thus far
has like a Hall of fame track of the young
players that are on this team, or even some of
the veterans. Would it surprised you if fifteen years from
(02:03):
now c J. Stride has put together a Hall of
Fame resume, would it shock you?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Gosh, we put the cart before we're doing going in
and miss arguments over whether Andre Johnson was Hall of Fame.
We're ready to put Demko and CJ in. No, I
mean Wesba Wex brought up a good uh good case
last week. We don't talk enough about Will Anderson. I
(02:31):
mean what he just did. He won Defensive Rookie the Year. Quietly,
Yet every time we talk about the Texans, it starts
with Demico and CJ or CJ. Demico and it's like
they get so much of the love. If Will Anderson
Junior keeps developing, I mean, he he could turn into
you know, Danil Hunter. I think has put himself in
a really good spot his career to be, you know,
a potential Hall of Famer. I don't know that Daniel
(02:53):
Hunter is there. We'll see. I mean, look at what
he's look at what he's done.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
If if I were a gambling man, I would not
put money down that the Nil Hunter gets into the
Hall of Fame. I would be uncomfortable doing that. And
he's not a young guy. He's a little long into
two by nfls. He is sixty third in all time sacks.
Stan you think Miles Garrett's gonna be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No question? First about Daniel Hunter is one sack behind him.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And nobody believes that right now, nobody believes that Nil
Hunter would get in. And I hate why is that
because the number is proven. He's right there, sack is
one stack. So here's for me how I gauge Hall
of fame in any sport. The first thing I do
before we get into the numbers, before I start thinking back,
start thinking back to performances and playoffs and all that posty.
(03:40):
First thing I do is I ask myself a question.
In the era said player participated, can we write a
history of the era they played in? Without said player,
you will not be able to talk about edge defender
the game of pro football in this era. By the
(04:00):
time he's done. Without Miles Garrett, I'm not there with
Daniel Hunter. That's just for me. For starters, you bring
up a great part.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Five seasons of double digit sacks for those fourteen and
a half or twelve and a half or more, two
fourteen and a half seasons and last year his career
best sixteen and a half sacks.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Last year, Miles Garrett is out there with tackles for loss.
He's out there with bad it passes, He's out there
with pressures, He's out there with hits on the quarterback.
He does it from the left side, he does it
from the right side. I've seen him reduced down to
the three technique and get some penetration from the middle.
Miles Garrett is excellent at what he does.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
If Daniel Hunter repeats what he did last year or
has some semblance of what he just did, he will
be close to He'll be knocking on the door of
top thirty all time sacks.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'm not prepared to down that hill. You seem like
you'd like to, which is funny, say you know maybe,
And he's only been a link since twenty fifteen. It's
not like he's played even played a decade yet.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm just he comes here and he does what he's
been doing in Minnesota for two three four years. Here,
he will he will jump into the top twenty all
time sacks and he will definitely be in a conversation
for Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
The better conversation is Larmy Tonsen. Tons has been all
pro and I don't have his profile lam Larmy Tonsel
right now to me is not in Hall of Famer.
He strings together another three four five years at this level.
Like to me, Larimer Tonsil is on the same type
of trajectory as who's my guy that was in Dallas?
(05:37):
He now went to the Jets, Ty tyd Smith, Ty's
gonna get in.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
He was excellent.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He was a bed rock win healthy for the Cowboys
we're doing and the playoff appearances and the divisions and
all of that. I think Tonsill needs another three, four
five seasons to get in. He's their best chance. I
think around you know shows, no those wide receivers. It's early,
Like Steph Diggs. I don't think Steph Diggs is a candidate,
(06:07):
not right now. Mmm yeah, Tank, I need to see
a lot more. And I'm not hating Joe Mixon. No,
I'm bouncing around defense. Derek Stingley, Can Derek Stingley cut
it on the last eight to ten years of his
career and get it done? Cause Thing this is your
three fasting does Thing has seven, eight, nine more years
(06:30):
at an all pro level, give or tape.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I mean that's tough. It's and it's tough for DB's Uh.
It feels like like you got to be a household
name to be a all.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You know, you know how you go become a household
name by taking the ball away and being damn good.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, I'm playing a bigger market. Helps Sauce Gardner is
a household name Derek Stingley isn't yet so but no,
like if we're handicapping, like Larry Tuns will be your
best chance of becoming a future all famer. I would
put Daniel Hudder probably second, just because track record, and
then c J.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Striude and Will Anderson. I'd put CJ having a better
chance than Daniel. I would put Will Anderson behind d
nil right now.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's tough though, because Dadial has a track like his
track Cork. He's shown it already.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
When the Texans announced that Danil Hunter had been signed here,
and this is a little different because he's from the area,
but half the Texas fan base had no idea who
Deniel Hunter was. Half the league, I don't know about that.
People don't know who he is, Like, I don't know
why you get this. I personally, I love the player.
I'm so happy he's y'all know what to do. He
(07:40):
is an infinite upgrade. Oh with Jon Fagernart, No disrespect JG.
He's just a better player. I'm happy he's here, but
most people to know who he was. Half the fan
base had no idea who Deniel Hunt was.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
They got it. I mean the guy's closing the closing
in on a hundred career side.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Do you think people watch Minnesota Viking football in his name?
Even thirty? Yet he's twenty nine? Do you think people
watch Minnesota Vikings?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, but isn't that more on the people than it
is on the player?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now, the voters into the Hall, the writers, they know
who he is, but you still have to have people
make a case. I mean, look how long and how
hard it was Andre to get in, and he's currently
tied with Leonard Little.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Leonard Little is one of the best defensive players to
ever played. No, he's not.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He's and that's my mains tie. Let him know the
man person, Willie McGinnis Hall of Famer, Right, Willie McGinnis
is a legitimate Hall of Fame ahead of him. I'm sorry, Oh,
Willie McInnis. How many playoff wins and Super Bowls as
he have? I get it, But that's the individual players,
that's a part of it. Just has the ball out, No, no, no, no.
The writers determine the criteria and what you do in
the postseason. To them, Mattis, he's ahead of Everson Griffin,
(08:46):
Ocia Minora, Howie Long Roll Long is arguably the top
four defensive lineman in the history of the game, hunters
ahead of those guys.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You're using one metric. I'm not done. I'm done argument
defensively and defensive lineman. The sack it's the biggest. It's
not the only man.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Nobody goes how many tackles for a loss. But you're
not giving me anything else other than that. Give me
some other stuff. You can't give me anything postseason with Denil.
You can't give me marketability and acclaim.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
With Denil.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You're giving me one metric to stat and putting him
up with the other guys. It is commendable at the
same time for me, not there yet, time Boil, I
understand that. I said that when he was signed. Let
me hear from Dre again. Drey wanted to do something here.
I talked with Mama Fleet over the weekend. She's doing better.
She's been in the hospital a couple of times here
the last two weeks or so. Uh So, love on
(09:36):
my mom. I know many of you do. Andre Johnson
specially connection with his mom. Mom was there seeing her
son get his shrine. What was that like, Dre. I
want to thank my.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Mom all your hard work, sacrifice, dedication. It didn't go unnoticed.
The way you raised me and my little brother. It
was a hall of fame effort. Today, Ma, you going
to hall.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Of fame like that?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Shout out to all the Hall of Fame moms within
the sound of my voice, wherever you are. Miss Monica's
one of them, Mama Fleet of course, Gord there. If
you choose to do whatever you choose to do with that,
that's on you. But I want to recognize the moms
and the family. A lot of people behind the scenes
that help these gentlemen get to that podium and don
that gold jacket.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What did you think about the bust?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I saw that on social that people weren't in love
with Andre's bus. Did you have an issue? Was it
a good job?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Not so much. I don't. I didn't like Julius Pepper's
bus coming from you. It's hard, yeah, I mean, it's
hard to look like the actual person.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Some of them are really good. I don't know. I'm
kind of indifferent on dras. They I appreciate the waves. Yeah,
they got the waves.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You got to get the waves. They got the beady eyes.
But yeah, it's a little too much going on in
the forehead.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
All right, some guys that are tracking for Hall of Fame,
you have not had a chance to come in on this.
By the way, the NFL players have Miles Garrett at
number five in the top one hundred list. There was
an absolute catastrophe as it pertains to the ranking of
the top one hundred. We mentioned you have not had
a chance to respond the Texans that were on that list.
We'll continue to do NFL some other tidbits that indirectly
(11:15):
impact the Texans on the other side, we'll see. Can
we hear from Demiico and some players around eleven thirty,
half an hour from now. Matt Thomas, Ross Villyal Sports Talk,
seven ninety
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