3 & Out - Latest with Bill Belichick, Prank phone call fallout, Final thoughts on the draft

John dives into the interview that Bill Belichick did with CBS and how it was handled by himself, his gf, and the university. Later, John discusses the fallout from the prank phone call that the son of the Falcons OC made to Shedeur Sanders. Next, Middlekauff wraps up his final thoughts from the draft and how the landscape in college football has changed so much.

Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment.

5:07 - Latest with Belichick

15:34 - Prank Phone Call Fallout

22:00 - Final thoughts on the draft

33:25 - Mailbag

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
John Middlecoff three Now podcast on this recording this on

(00:22):
this beautiful Wednesday. Hopefully everyone is doing good, having a
great day. And today I did want to chime in
on this Belichick fiasco. He's in love with his employee,
so it's Jim and his girlfriend slash pr agent slash manager.

(00:43):
Situations kind of taken on a life of its own,
so I gotta give some thoughts there. The Jeff Olbrick
situation got a monetary value placed on it and it
wasn't good for Olbrick who was fined a hunter k
Falcons find a quarter of a mill. And I watched
Old Brook today, So some thoughts on the prank call
situation and then just a couple draft thoughts. Something I

(01:07):
saw less sneed say rams GM in regards to philosophical
beliefs on you know, human beings when it comes to
transfer portals and how they have judged guys and had success.
So we will talk about that as well as a
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because listen, I from just I think a lot of
people are judging this guy. And it's a human reaction.
When you see a guy in his mid seventies who's

(03:20):
really rich dating a girl in their mid twenties, A
lot of people are gonna have opinions, a lot of
people are going to be judgmental, and most importantly a
lot of people are gonna make fun of you. Now,
if you think that Bill Belichick is the only coach
in the NFL and definitely college football who is older

(03:42):
than fifty five sixty that has a young girlfriend, you
would probably have to live under a rock now, just
because these things aren't publicly, they are definitely going on.
And some of these men, I promise you have wives
and kids at home. So like Bill bell is not
some lone wolf here, He's definitely not the first old

(04:04):
rich guy to date some young girl, and in his business,
which is very public, whether you're an NFL coach, whether
you're a college coach, all these people have PR directors.
And I've interviewed coaches, GMS, some players back when I
was doing stuff with the Niners and Raiders over the years,
and typically when you're doing one of these interviews, the
PR director is sitting or standing right there, And honestly,

(04:27):
it's never been weird. I've never been told by one
of these guys. And I have relationships with a lot
of these individuals with different teams, worked with many when
I was with the with the Eagles, met many through
the Niners and the Raiders. Most of them are pretty
cool and I'm pretty chill it's it's not that serious. Now,
if there's something controversial or something they know is unfair,

(04:51):
maybe they will chime in. But for the most part,
like you just become, you just build a normal relationship
with the individual. Now, typically the coach or the player
is not sleeping with that human being. But I would
imagine in Hollywood in some of these other industries where
there is a female PR director and I've never experienced

(05:12):
that in the NFL, though, some of the people under
the top dog in the NFL have been women, and
who knows, maybe these people have slept around, but that
is a different dynamic. So when you see Bill doing
this interview and she's chiming in from the side, if
that was John Middelkoff at forty years old, I don't

(05:34):
think it would be that weird. I honestly don't think
it would be that big of a story. It would
just be the PR guy doing his job. We're not
here to talk about that. That happens in these circumstances
all the time. How often are you watching a press
conference for your team right during the season when your

(05:54):
team loses a game and you turn on whoever your
coach is and he's given the press conference and you're
watching on YouTube, you're watching it on Twitter, and you
hear two more questions. Guys, that's the PR person, Like
they have a job to do. I think the reason
we judge this completely different is because we know Bill's banger,
and that is a situation in itself I found kind

(06:17):
of funny. Now, the interview was extremely awkward and very weird.
News flash, Belichick gives some weird interviews. He has a
long history of doing that. I do think as this
week is played out, like I got to the point where,
like I can't keep clicking on these back and forth
between CBS, between her, you know, publicly putting out emails.

(06:40):
Here's what I know. This is not Ole miss this
is not Arizona State. This is North Carolina, a pretty
serious academic institution. And Belichick has had a unique reign
in football in a world where these teams are worth
billions of dollars. Typically they have had many powerful people

(07:00):
in the building. Usually the GM has a lot of
sway what he says matters. Typically in a lot of
these places, the president has a lot of juice. Belichick
was basically the king of the operation, despite him not
owning the team. Obviously the Crafts did. The Crafts didn't
tell Bill what to do. Hell, he kicked Tom Brady

(07:21):
to the curb. So Bill is used to this world
where he is actually much closer to one of these
legendary college coaches like coach k like you know Bobby
Knight's downfall, like Roy Williams was in North Carolina, or
some of these football coaches Bobby Bowden, Nick Saban, you

(07:42):
name it, where they could do whatever they wanted, no
one told them what to do. Here's the problem. Bill
doesn't have this equity with this institution. So these institutions
are run by presidents, right, and they typically are on
the academic side. It's why when you have these situations,

(08:04):
it falls on the athletic director, but they're not even
technically the boss. If the presidents or depending on how
these academic institutions are set up, the border regions, whoever.
It's almost like a private company where it's like your
answer to the CEO and mainly the board of directors.
That's how college football operates. And Belichick like, this has

(08:25):
got to be what is going on right now? What
did we get ourselves into? And I am pro Bill
Belichick anyone my age. Definitely, if you're older than me.
I'd even say if you're in your mid to early
thirties and you witness the entire Belichick run, there is
no way that you could argue he's one of the
greatest tacticians you've ever seen. He was a fucking genius.

(08:47):
What his teams consistently did since till from one till
like eighteen nineteen was remarkable. Now we can argue till
we're blue in the face about the credit between him
and Tom Brady. You could not have watched Bill Belichick
in these big games and think that he didn't have
a massive advantage over the other coach. And that's from
Pete Carroll to Andy Reid, I'm talking Hall of famers

(09:08):
to Sean McVay. He was getting the best of them constantly.
Mike Tomlin never had a shot against William Belichick. But
this situation now pr in college matters in the NFL.
Ultimately it doesn't because if you win, everyone shuts up.
Now that's true in college as well, But you're recruiting,

(09:29):
even in this world of nil and revenue sharing, like
you are the front facing individual of your sport and
of your University. The way Kirby Smart and Nick Saban
and Ryan Day and even Jim Harbaugh Michigan Acts conducts themselves.
The headlines they make matter. This would be embarrassing if
it was the NFL. I do think in college this

(09:52):
is almost worse. And I started thinking, like, you know,
everyone considers Al Davis one of if the greatest football
minds in the history of the NFL. His last six
seven years got a really weird, and it's sad for
younger people that's how they remember.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
This.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Current iteration of Jerry Jones has just gotten bizarre. I
think he'd be widely considered one of the greatest and
more impactful business minds of one of the great American
businesses we've ever seen, the National FOOTBALLI when you get
old and you get rich, and it's hard for anyone
around you to check you whether that's of like Jerry.

(10:32):
We probably shouldn't do this many interviews Al like, this
is probably not a great idea. Bill, you probably shouldn't
make the twenty five year old you're banging your pr
assistant manager. Probably not the best idea. Let's separate some
things here, but who's gonna tell him that? I mean
his son works for him, clearly doesn't have the juice

(10:53):
to tell him that. Michael Lombardi also works for him,
clearly doesn't have the juice to tell him that. And
even if they did, he's not listening, because he's shown
over the last couple decades he ain't really listening to anybody,
and for the most part, it's worked out in his favor.
I do think once you go to college, though, this
has got a chance. He's not a Texas I saw

(11:15):
today headline They're gonna have a forty million dollar payroll
this fall. Sark, who's become a really good coach. I'll
give him his flowers. Has a budget that not many
teams are going to be even close to, I would say,
and imagine the only teams that could even sniff his
budget would be Ohio State in Oregon. That's not Belichick

(11:36):
in North Carolina. Their talent, even in a conference which
is not nearly as good as the top two conferences
of the SEC in the Big Ten, he's going to
be at a disadvantage. Plus one huge advantage he had
in the NFL, just like Andy Reid has now is
he every single guy in the league he has seen
or has exposure to coming out in the draft, and

(11:59):
every single coach he's going against many he's gone against
for years or decades. But he's seen every scheme. There's
nothing you can throw at him on a weekly basis
that he hasn't seen, player wise or scheme wise. Well,
college football is new to Bill. He hasn't coached against
a lot of these guys. A lot of guys that
he's going to see on a weekly basis have never

(12:20):
worked in the NFL. Now, ultimately, you know, James Gladstone
might be tried to tell you in Jacksonville that football
is this complicated, almost like a technological project. It's not
that complicated. In Bill a couple of years ago when
he did the Top one hundred players with Brady in
the NFL Network, I think did a great job of articulating,

(12:41):
like art war my strengths against your weaknesses, my weaknesses
avoid your strengths, Like we're not trying to overthink this.
We're not building bridges here, we're not building high rises,
We're not doing this isn't a hard transplant, this isn't
that comp We'll just try to gain three yards on
third and two. And I think Bill his football knowledge

(13:03):
speaks for itself all time. Great this situation though, and
you know, Coward used to have a thing two things
make smart men dumb, money and women. And for a while,
you know, listen, Bill's a single guy. He can do
whatever he wants. But this situation with this girl empowering
her feels like it's just it's kind of jumped the

(13:24):
shark here, and someone, if they can, needs to rein
it in because it's got a chance to kind of
derail this North Carolina experience before it even starts. The
other thing that happened to day is and I said
this the other day, and I will reiterate this. I
grew up in an era where he did a lot
of prank calling. It was a huge thing that every
kid my age did. I would say from ten to

(13:49):
fifteen years old. Maybe maybe not fifteen. But when you're
young and back then, caller ID didn't even exist. You
were basically we didn't have camera phones. You could prank
call hell. I remember being like probably fourth or fifth
maybe sixth grade, and I used to go to this
pool in the summer and this wife thought at the time,

(14:12):
I think she was in high school, this beautiful girl,
she like lived. Probably I would say like a five
minute bike ride away maybybe like six or seven minutes,
like in my little community. And back then you had
white pages so you could figure out a number. I
used to call all the time and just hang up.
And I remember them having like Star sixty seven had

(14:33):
just come out, and they had found out who it was,
and they kind of put two and two together. And
I remember my dad, or maybe it was my mom,
like took me over to their house and I had
to apologize, pretty embarrassing. And I would imagine, like a
lot of kids, you have been caught doing things that
are dumb, and it's really embarrassing. I know that I

(14:54):
had never done anything. Well, I guess like I've ran
into my dad's truck. I remember I was really a
and I backed up my mom's car and it clipped
his truck and that wasn't a great night. But I've
never cost you know, And money's all relative. The Oldbrooks
have a lot of cash. His dad's been a defensive coordinator,
making millions of dollars in the NFL for a long
time now. He played in the NFL for a decade,

(15:15):
so one hundred grand to him is not one hundred
grand potentially to you or me or to certain people,
but one hundred grand's one hundred thousand dollars. And that's
what Jeff Olbrook was fine today, and he had to
give like a five minute press conference where honestly it
looked like he was about to cry, and not crying
because he's like sad, because clearly he was really really embarrassed. Now,

(15:37):
I come from a day and age where I got
my fair share of ass kickings, and to be honest
with you, I probably never got one that I not
only didn't deserve, I probably deserved more and I got
away with a lot more than I got caught. So
I've done a lot of stupid shit, just like most
people in my life and most of my friends did
growing up. I do think when you're in college and

(15:58):
in his situation, doing what he did is a situation
that is like a pretty big embarrassment for his family
and the franchise gets fined two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars and one hundred thousand dollars. I also thought the
reaction of like this was some you know, crime against humanity.
It's like, give me a break, because at the end
of the day, like it happened to Abdual Carter or

(16:21):
it happened to Tyler Warren, no one gave a shit.
They just happened to call the most famous draft situation
in recent memory. Right, Like Bernie Madoff scammed a lot
of people, a lot of working class people. Anyone that's
watched documentaries on Bernie Madoff, it wasn't just like the
super rich billionaires that he screwed. He screwed people that's

(16:42):
retirements were half a million dollars, there were a million dollars.
Their entire life savings were with Bernie Madoff's and just
went disappeared. He did not go to jail, and ultimately
is he dead. I'm pretty sure he died in jail.
But his empire did not come crumbling down because those
people wanted him, you know, jailed, there's people went after

(17:05):
they he got made an example of that. He would
have been made an example of no matter what, because
of the the amount of money in which he was
dealing with. But like it was because of those guys
that he got the hammer thrown at him, because those
guys have a lot of juice. Just like when it
was Shador Sanders like, ultimately, if it was abdual Carter,
who knows maybe nothing comes of this. If it was

(17:27):
Tyler Warren, who knows nothing comes of this, you know
why because that guy ended up getting drafted third and
fifteenth and they don't give a shit. Part of the
Shador Sanders thing is it went really viral and he
clearly was there. Now, you know, I would imagine Jeff
Olber could beat the living shit out of his kid.
A little more difficult when the kids in college. I
just know this. I where I come from, would struggle

(17:48):
ever looking my father in the face again. This would
be one that brought a lot of shame to the family.
And while I think the reaction or the overreaction is
pretty crazy, once that fine gets levied on your father,
I know this, I would have been paying that. And
like most people that are nineteen twenty years old, you
don't have one hundred thousand dollars a week. Better start

(18:10):
grab a shovel'll, start digging, start doing something, start making
some money, because you're gonna take me back every single penny.
But what an embarrassment for the Falcons organization. I mean,
it really is. And I'm not blaming fontin no or
Raheem Morris or Arthur Blank. But let's face it, this
has been a rough twelve month stretch. You pay this

(18:34):
quarterback who you end up having to bench. You got
this Michael Pennock situation where Kirk Cousin's still around, little weird,
little bizarre as talking to a couple of people in
the NFL like that James Pierce trade. You know why
that trade was made. You know why they traded a
next year's first round pick for a guy in the

(18:55):
mid twenties. Because if they do not make the playoffs
this year, people think everyone's gonna get fired. The owner
is nuts. I mean, he just put himself in the
Hall of Fame last year, in his own Hall of Fame.
It's like, what are you doing? Arthur? But he might
be slipping and losing a little bit too, and he's
gonna want blood because they just told him, Hey, give
ninety million dollars to Kirk Cousins, and about you know,

(19:17):
six seven games in you're like, what the hell did
we pay for? And then you get this situation, Well,
why is Jeff Olbrick there because Raheem Morris wanted in there?
And now you levy this fine, So whether you like
it or not, when you're the person at the top
of the food chain, the decision maker, the head coach,
the GM, like this falls on you, even if you
had nothing to do with it, Like the owner is

(19:37):
staring at you, like he's not just chewing out Jeff Olbrick,
He's chewing your ass out. So complete embarrassment for the Falcons,
the Obrick family, And this is something that this kid
be a tough one to shake for him Christmas, you know,
and Thanksgiving holidays. A couple of quick things on the draft.
I saw Less Sneed say this, and I thought it

(19:58):
was pretty fascinating because he was on with Pat mac
cofee the other day and he was saying an area
that they have obviously had a lot of success with
drafting in recent memory. And he's like, you know, all
these gms are being asked about and most of them
don't really have a great answer because this is uncharted territory.
Everyone's trying to figure it out, you know. The nil

(20:21):
these guys making a lot of money in college. Let's
face it, a lot of guys were making money in
college for decades. But there's a big difference to getting
fifty grand, one hundred grand in a brown bag and
maybe a free car lease. And like, we're gonna pay
you nine hundred and seventy five thousand dollars every single month.
You're gonna get fifty thousand dollars direct to positive in

(20:42):
your account. That's it's going to be taxable the irs
and the government's going to know about it. And the
money has exploded. All these parking lots, you know, look
like especially you know at Texas, at Ohio State, at Michigan,
at USC and all the big programs. These guys aren't
driving hoopties, you know. These guys are driving range Rovers,
g Wagons, Lamborghini. He's like, these guys ain't driving Honda

(21:06):
Cords anymore. Those days are done. These good dudes are
living high on the Hawk. And listen, I got no problem.
Market speaks for itself. You can get it, get it.
But Lefs Sneed was saying that, you know, it's difficult sometimes,
right when you get these guys that get paid a
lot of money, and there are questions, like the top
guys are the top guys. They earn it, they produce,

(21:26):
like this guy loves football, but there are a lot
of guys that kind of fall in the middle, and
now with the transfer portal, it's like, are you just
leaving for money? He said, One thing that we found
and in our experience, look at Kobe Turner, Jared Vers,
and Braden Fisk. They all started at Albany, Western Michigan,
and Richmond. And if you're gonna play at one of

(21:48):
those schools, I grew up in Davis UC Davis Division
two school. Now it's technically D one DOUBLEA, but if
you're gonna play college football there and be a really
good player, just like I went to cal Poly, same thing,
going to really really like football. Why because it's not
that glamorous. You're not getting that many perks and football,
whether you're playing at cal Poly or whether you're playing

(22:10):
at Wisconsin. The actual football part, the lifting, the working out,
the practice, the film study is difficult. Like football is
difficult no matter what level you play. But when you're
at Texas or Bama or LSU or USC or Oregon,
there are a lot of perks that come along with it.

(22:30):
There aren't that many at the lower levels. And he said,
we drafted several guys that started at the lowest level
of football and got the opportunity because of how hard
they tried. Some of them were walk ons that then
elevated through the transfer portal and had a lot of
success there. We found that that background because the number

(22:51):
one question everyone asks is how much of these guys
love it? How much does football mean to you? I
saw I headlined yesterday of a bunch of fire stars
that did not get drafted. Well, some of these guys.
If you're a five star and you went just go
to Texas or Texas A and M or Ohio State
or Georgia out of high school, it doesn't mean that
I love it. God just might have given me special talent.

(23:13):
And I'm just an unreal high school player and I'm
so much better than everybody. It's like, of course Kirby
Smart's gonna recruit me. Then I get there, I better
like it because it's really really difficult. The competition is
really really high. But for me to grind my ass
off at Richmond or Albany or Western Michigan. Like looking
back at Max Crosby, shocker, he really likes football, right,

(23:37):
because you'd have to playing at where I think he
went to Western Michigan as well, maybe Central, maybe Southern whatever,
one he went to, like, if you're gonna play hard
and be an excellent player there, like it's for the
love of the game. It ain't for you know, the
one hundred grand sitting in your locker every couple of weeks.

(23:58):
That's not going on there. And it started making me think,
I do wonder if some of these gms you look
at these guys that upgrade that go from school. Again,
if you go from like Washington State to Oregon, like
you might just be the best player at Washington State,
Oregon's interested in you. I'm talking like low low level

(24:19):
to a much higher level. That is something to keep
an eye on because if you're able to make that
jump and you've excelled at a lower level for multiple years,
I don't think anyone can dispute how much football means
to you because I've seen it both ways. Hell, when
I went from cal Paly to Fresno State, it felt
like I went from the minor leagues to the big leagues.

(24:40):
And then when I started scouting and I started going
into Oregon in USC it was like a different, completely
different world. So I just I think all these teams
are trying to work through this, But I do think
that less and some of these guys that have started
at just shitty programs that got the opportunity to play,
you know, at the highest level. There might be something there. Now,

(25:05):
if you're talent, I'm not saying draft these guys in
the first round, but I would do a lot of
work on those individuals.

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Okay, let's do a little mail bag at John Middlecoff.
At John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those dms, get
your questions answered on the show. Let's uh, let's start
with Austin. Just watch Colin say he hated the forty
nine Ers draft, implied Colin or Kyle has too much say,
which could be true in the past, but this draft

(27:47):
has Robert Solo written all over it. Some reaches, but
loved it. Let's be real, We've always had shitty O lines.
Now should we be able? Now? We should be able
to stop the run? Colin. It's funny He finally criticizes Kyle,
but for something that seems wrong. What do you think?
I talked to a buddy in the NFL who who's

(28:10):
got a couple of rings and is a high up
executive and said he was listening to the podcast and
he heard me discussing coaches. The difference between coaches and
scouts when it comes to drafting, and basically the difference
of these organizations whose gms run the draft, and you know,

(28:35):
Veach runs the Chiefs draft and he has since he's
been the GM, just like John Dorsey did before. Andy
Reid does not run the draft. Howie Roseman runs the
Eagles draft. Brad Holmes now runs the Lions draft with
the forty nine ers. Not that John Lynch and the
scouts don't do all the work for the draft, like
Kyle's in charge, like Cole's the boss. And he described

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it to me like this, and I'd never thought about
it this way. Said. The difference between a coach and
like a GM, you know, scout executive, the way they
view players is coaches are going to be naturally pessimistic
because they view it through two lenses. One they view
the draft like a depth chart. Does this guy fill
the need in my depth chart? And obviously the forty

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nine ers had lots of needs because they cut and
let a bunch of people walk. And they also view
people through a glass half empty lens. I gotta work
on his feet, I gotta improve his route running. I
gotta work on his X, Y and Z, where usually
scouting eyes are much more well, he can do this.

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These are the positives, right. Doesn't mean that scouts can't
be negative, but I do think the first part about
how they look through the draft as a depth chart.
The forty nine ers listen MIKEL Williams, the guy they
drafted at pick eleven. He's a top fifteen pick in
any draft. He's a blue chipper from Georgia that is
six foot five, that is two hundred and seventy plus pounds,

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who's twenty years old, who has awesome off the field
in tangible's character, He's going high in any freaking draft.
No one I have talked to and most of my
friends did not like their draft, has any issue with
that pick. I would say his approval rating is really high.
There are countless examples of people that fit his measurables

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that don't just succeed the kicks serious ass in the NFL,
in the history of the sport, So no one has
an issue with that. I think as you go, you
went the second round guy from Texas, people weren't that
high on him. Not that he's not a draftable player
or could, but people thought the second round was insane. Now,
the forty nine ers value run you know, playing the

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run a lot and physicality. But that is a pick
that a GM probably wouldn't have made. That's a coach
pick because they go plug and play, and I think
there are guys And here's the thing with the offensive line,
I'm with you, Like, beside Trent Williams, which is one
of the Lucky's the wrong way to put it, because
he demanded basically to go to Kyle, So like their

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relationship was the reason. And you get credit for developing
relationships with players, but like that situation is a I
mean they traded a third round pick for Trent Williams.
I mean, what are we talking about. That's never happening again.
They just don't draft like he has. They have gone
on the record and said, and this is I adamantly
disagree with this, that they value skill guys more than

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the offensive line. Their offensive line coach said that guys
that score touchdowns. I'm like, I'm sorry, I disagree with that. Now.
I was taught and I learned in the NFL, even
college football, Pat Hill offensive line coach for Belichick, Like,
I mean the amount of Fresno State offensive linemen that
had success in the NFL. Beside Logan Mankins is pretty high. Hell,

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when I was there, Kenny Wiggins played like eight nine
years in the NFL as an undrafted free agent. Ryan Wendell,
who left right before I got there, played started on
a Super Bowl team and is the Rams offensive line coach.
And then obviously going to Andy Reid. The reason that
Pat Hill knew Andy Reid because he recruited him to
play offensive line at Utah and Andy end up going
to BYU. Big guys fucking matter, they really do. And

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the forty nine ers think that they can get around that.
Now they value the defensive line, which I respect, which
is I'm not going to totally crush them for drafting
a guy six five and forty pounds from Texas, but
I do understand, like Kyle's going to view the draft
Belichick did at the end. He just cold, strange, plug

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and play guard. It's like, Bro, you do not need
to draft this guy in the first round and get
him on the third. If it wasn't for McVeigh and
Les Snead not having a first round pick and probably
having a few cocktails, they let the world know like,
yeah we had that guy in the fourth. It's like, well,
no shit, no one needed a draft from there because
Belichick just saw a depth chart. I need a guard.
That's how coach just see it. So I think it's

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I think it's complicated now. The thing that I will
push back against is no one knows anything. I mean,
there are drafts that are gonna get a's that are
gonna suck and they're I mean, mel Kiper gave the
Cleveland Browns an eight plus. It's like no one drafts
a quarterback in the third in the fifth round, that's insane.
Question for the mailbag, how would you make sense of
the Saints passing up on quarterbacks with more recognizable names

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and end up taking Shuck, who wasn't talked about much
up until like the last couple weeks of the draft.
I believe he nailed the interview, not even mad at
the pick, but they just is they just want to
fill in until next year's draft. But no one seems
to be talking about him moving up past Gabriel Sanders,
yours or Howard. Thanks for the daily content. Uh, it's

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a good question. I do think Tyler Shuck was someone
discussed in the draft circles and definitely during the fall
pretty highly Now second round probably not, but I mean,
he was pretty clear by mid season gonna go in
the top one hundred ish picks one hundred and twenty
five ish picks, so he was gonna go early fourth round,

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third round. So to take him at the top of
the second round, you know where I stand. I think
it's crazy. Old player, huge mental advantage in college when
you've been in these it's not even fair. I mean,
the dude was Kerbert's backup for two years. But I
do think it's hard to play the game of well,
it's just for next year. It's one thing to load up,

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like having two first round picks like the Rams or
the Browns like that. That's a tangible thing, but you know,
you could suck and still be drafting like ninth. So
I think you just never know. I don't think coaches
in front offices look at it that way. If you're
gonna draft a guy in the second round, you like him.
And I also wonder if they think this Derek Carr
situation has gotten really weird. Question for the Pod, who

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are your division winners for next season? I'm not trying
to kick your question to the curb here, but I
have an even we just got through the draft. It's
hard for me to We're not a television show here.
I'm not playing that game quite yet because honestly, I
honestly hasn't crossed my mind. And for most of the divisions,
like I think, it's pretty self explanatory, like you'd have

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to be on drugs to pick against the Bills. I
think the Eagles have the best roster in the NFL,
So Eagles, like Bill's Eagles, easy pick. It'd be hard
for me to pick against the Ravens. This is just
off the top of my head. Maybe I'll go a
little counter, I'll go Packers, but I think, I mean,
all those teams are gonna be good. I think the

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forty nine ers can be better than you think. But
i'd probably be safe to pick the Rams. I mean,
you'd have to be, you know, a market street crackhead
in San Francisco to pick against the Chiefs. I mean,
they rattle off the division every single year. Now it's
gonna get more difficult, but until someone beats them, you're
crazy to pick against them. Though I do think it's

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gonna be more competitive. As a Jets fan, I don't
even know. I'm just stopping there. The Bucks too. Nothing
but respecting my guy, Jason Light guy's a fucking winner.
As a Jets fan, I can remember the last offseason
where we had I can't remember the last offseason where
we had have been talked about less in the past decade.
I see other fan bases upset not enough people are

(36:19):
talking about them and can't help. But wonder if I
am right to enjoy being away from the Spotlight mostly
or if I should take it as a sign we
aren't gonna be any good. Uh. I think the last
couple of years were pretty unique with Aaron. I mean
that just vaults you to the top of the conversation.

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You know, you drafted Zach Wilson number two. I mean
you've had some just kind of unique talking point circumstances.
So I think it's a positive being a little quieter.
Though you do have a talented roster. I don't think
you're gonna be that great next year. We'll probably my
guess if I was a betting man, and that would
be one team. Your team on paper, I like, is

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more than the Dolphins. Obviously Tua is a better player
than Fields, but you know it can't you stay healthy.
Time will tell I have a loaded question. This is
from Patrick. Why do you feel that people think the
NFL is rigged? I don't, but I find myself in
so many conversations with people who think that players are actors.

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It was especially bad this year when the Chiefs were
winning all those close games. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I would guess it's a screenshot, so I can't see
Patrick's face. That a lot of that. You're a younger person,
so a lot of your friends are online a lot.
It's a big online conversation. And if any of your

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young friends are in fantasy or gamble and have been
screwed in situations, you think that it can take on
a life of its own. There is no disputing this
is the number one television show in America. And when
you just say that out loud, the number one television
show in America, you think scripted TV. Hell, even the
number two television shows in America, which you know it's

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dipping hardcore, has historically been news. I think a lot
of people think that's pretty fraudulent. So, and obviously just
television shows and reality TV show. Think about this reality
TV which really came to light. You know, in my youth,
I mean Real World. I'm pretty sure it was the
first reality show or the first big reality show. I'm

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sure there were others, and then the world of reality
television took off over the last twenty plus years. But
I think we all acknowledge and even sometimes I have
to look at Maria it's like, you know that this
conversation isn't just randomly happening. They're not just sitting having cocktails,
just going immediately into their relationships and that question that

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that human being asked that other person. You would never
say it like that, this is not real. The difference
is like having worked in the NFL, it would be
impossible to create. Think about the movies with sports, right
when you watch a I'm watching that show on Netflix

(39:13):
with Josh Dumel and Minka Kelly, who's just i mean,
still a babe in the mid forties, but you go
back to Friday Night Lights and you go back to
just all the football movies historically, right from Rudy to
the Program. Program actually had some decent scenes of football,
but it's very, very difficult to get really good action
live in football because it's hard to script guys going

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full speed tackling so like you couldn't You could manipulate
a player or two, but you couldn't create the actors
to do this, no matter how good of athletes they are,
which they're obviously great. But can leagues manipulate stuff? For sure?
Now the difference I would say is this, let's use

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the NBA in baseball, who if they get the right teams,
Like if you got the Warriors against the Lakers in
the Western Conference Finals, it would be the highest rated
basketball series in a decade because it's the two biggest brands,
the two biggest brands as players. The Lakers are the
biggest brand. I think the Warriors in a short period

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of time have vaulted up to basically two or three,
and it would be enormous. The NFL doesn't need that,
Like the NFL does not need the New York Giants
and the Dallas Cowboys to be in the NFC Championship.
They could easily do the Lions against the Seahawks and
fifty million people would watch. What was the AFC Championship

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last year the Bills and the Chiefs, which I think
has been that game twice in the last five years.
That they are not dependent on markets, the reason the
World Series last year was way bigger than the NBA
Finals because it was the Dodgers in the Yankees. I mean,
the NFL is not dependent at this point in time
on markets, which is pretty rare. So I think that

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certain things just catch a life on their own. And
you know, I think we have recent history of conspiracy
theories becoming reality that there's no disputing that, and I
think that word is like kind of overus nowadays. But yeah,
I don't think it's a conversation that's going to die.

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I wanted to get your opinion on the Patriots draft
and what you think the ceiling is for Drake May
I have seen one. I think his ceiling's pretty high.
He's got a chance to be pretty good. Now. We
talk a lot about this. I'd say the same thing
with Kaylen Williams. There's a big difference between physical traits
and then doing it. You know, a lot of every

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quarterback in the NFL who is a starter or a backup,
if you get him in a room and they're talking football,
you'd be blown away. If you just sat Kenny pick
it down with Josh Allen and we just had Brian
day Ball, Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reid and they were all
just talking football. The level of conversation would be really impressive.

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But once you go on the field, even if Kenny
Pickett knows the same amount of football as Justin Herbert
or Josh Allen, it doesn't mean then he can execute
and play as fast as those guys. Right, So like
Drake May and Caleb Williams, their talents immense now doing
it when there's pressure. The other thing is, if you're

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a good team, there's pressure on you to win every week.
When you suck, I'm sorry, it's just not the same. Honestly,
Teams don't take you seriously in November and December or
human beings. But I've seen a lot of clips on
will Campbell. There is validity to arm length. It matters.
He's really impressive and I understand why Vrabel really really

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likes him. Easy guy to like, So I mean I
think he'll be good. I mean now Trent Williams, Lane Johnson,
Jordan Mylotta, Tristan Wurf's like, is he gonna be some
all pro? I don't know. But watching him talk and
clearly playing at LSU all those years, I don't see

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how he's not a solid starter for a long time,
like All Pro Pro Bowl. You never know, But I
think the Patriot's got to feel pretty good about that pick.
I don't think he'll be overwhelmed. The running back from
Ohio State, I mean, pretty special talent. I saw Bruce Feldman,

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who college covers football as well as anybody and is
dialed in, especially with the top programs, the Ryan Days,
the Sarks, the Harbaughs, the Kirby's. Like this guy, Lincoln
Dan Lanning, he knows shit. He's like I would not
be surprised. And this guy's been covering college football for decades.
If Trayvon Henderson's the best running back out of the group,

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I mean after his freshman year, you might even be
able to say rookie. Now that these guys are all
getting paid, I've seen a lot of guys say this
around college football. You could argue like, this guy's gonna
be a top ten pick. He looked like an absolute
freak show, and then you know they end up signing
another running back. The offense changed a little bit, but
you have that level of speed. He's got a chance
to be just a big time game breaker. And when's

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the last time the Patriots, they've had, you know, a
lot of over the Belichick run versatile running backs, right
Dion Lewis, they had Dean Lewis, they had Folk. I'm
trying to think of my guy from cal Berkeley running back.

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I played golf for the Music Cool guy. His name Shaneverine.
I played Olympic Club with Shane Veren. Didn't quite know
where the ball was going, but he had some serious
power off guy. He was telling awesome stories. But like
they've had a lot of versatile guys they could run
in the open field. I think Shane Vereen actually works
for the Texans now in the personnel department. Cool dude.

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I don't know if they've ever quite had like this.
I mean, this guy's got legit breakaway speed. I didn't
know much about. And I'm a West Coast college football guy.
This Kyle Williams, wide receiver from Washington State. I didn't
love the wide receiver they drafted last year, Polk. You know,
I thought that the the Bucks who drafted McMillan, who

(45:36):
was the third wide receiver from Washington, I thought he
was a better player. Obviously Rome was the top dog,
but clearly Fray Bulls coming in, so they draft basically
three guys on offense in the first sixty nine picks.
I don't know this offensive lineman from Georgia. It's funny.
I was talking to someone about this, a buddy of
mine in the league. I was like, you know what's

(45:57):
funny is I thought Georgia's offensive line sucked, and on
the second day, like multiple interior offensive linemen came off
the board. But I'm not going to pretend to like
break down this Georgia guy. But I will say this,
their first two picks hard not to really like. I'd
be pretty excited if I was a Patriots fan right now.

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I mean I'd be thinking playoffs. How do you think
the Packers did with their draft? Well, one thing's pretty
clear is these wide receivers are unnotice and some of

(46:44):
them it's not their fault. Right Watson, who was you know,
in a weird way, you could say he was underachieving.
He just couldn't stay healthy. Hamstrings were always pulling the
first couple of years. Now he tears his ACL. Romeo's
getting concussions left and right. But you draft Golden really high,
who's a stud? They drafted another wide receiver in the
third round. This tackle they took from North Carolina State.

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I mean they've they've drafted well. Their offensive line has
been good forever, so I'd be bullish on that pick.
But I mean they draft two wide receivers with their
first three picks, So I mean those guys, I mean,
Golden's one hundred percent playing and I think the other
guy's got a from TCU's got a very very good
chance to play. So I would say that they tell

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you everything that they need, like we need more explosion
on offense because their offensive line is going to be good.
And they drafted last year the tackle from Arizona in
the first round. So they've drafted two tackles high the
last couple of years, and they've they've invested a lot
in this wide receiver room. I think I'm gonna pick again.
The Packers won eleven games last year and won one

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divisional game. I think I'm gonna pick the Packers to
win the division. With the NFL Draft, how do gms
go about weighing position availability into their draft decision and
big board? For example, if this past draft, the Raiders
needed an offensive tackle and running back objectively, genty is

(48:11):
better at his position than Membo, but this draft was
really deep at running back, so they could pick up
Membo in round one and Henderson in round two. Then
the combo Membo and Henderson is a better option than
Genty in a steep drop off. I think there's a
fine balance. And this is where I think coaches. I think,

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if you really need to tackle, I think a coach
is more likely to take an offensive lineman right there.
And I think if the and also offensive or team philosophies. Now,
I think where Spy Tech and Pete Carroll would tell
you that we just had gent rated a lot higher
than Membo, so we just stick with the philosophy to
take the best player on the board. My issue with

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Genty is the whole time people think I'm like a
gente hater. Some of my tweets from the season, I
freaking love the guy. I mean, it was, it was
one of the coolest stories in recent memory in college football.
But I'm with you, like, wait, I can get one
of the Ohio State running backs in the second round.
Hell I could get three or four legit starters in
the third round. Are there other positions here that I

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could take that I think are much difficult, more difficult
to get in the later rounds. I will never follow
anybody even if they missed on the player for taking
an offensive lineman high. Again, you can miss on any
player like Joe Douglas, the Makai Beckton thing blew up
in his face. I do not fault them at all
for taking them making that pick. And I think if

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you're in that position, you make that pick every time.
Like that, that philosophy, that idea. But I think in
this situation, my guess would be that Spytek would tell
you member a little bit of a late riser, you know,
taking a guy that we think has a chance to
be a pro bowler over a you know, some question

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marks with Membo, like a lot of talent, but who knows.
I mean, there's little boom or bust. I think would
imagine some people would tell you in the league because
just his physical attributes, you would say, well, why wouldn't
Rabel have just taken him? However, I listened to you
literally every single day. However, you got a chill on

(50:20):
your anti Big Twelve agenda. The best player in the
league played in the Big Twelve. They had some thirty
some draft picks this year and two picks in the
top ten. Obviously they're high end talent is not the
same as the SEC or the Big Ten, but calling
them an embarrassment is overstating. At Big time love your content.
Agree with ninety percent, but the way you talk about
with the Big twelve is way off. They had thirty

(50:41):
players drafted, the Big Ten had seventy three. And you
say that you had two guys, you know, two picks
in the top ten. Those guys weren't Big twelve players.
Travis Hunter he played in the Pac ten last year.
Ted McMillan also, I mean Arizona a Pac ten school,
the realignment, you just got those two guys. I'm not

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anti the Big two. I'm not anti any of these conferences.
Your conference is not viewed very highly relative to those
big conferences, not even close. But like claiming McMillan and
Travis Hunter as like lifetime Big twelve guys seems a
little rich. Your defensive talent is awful. Yeah, I mean

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it really is, and it always has been. And now
that Oklahoma and Texas are gone, you're gonna be in trouble.
I'm not anti any of the I don't care I
didn't go to any of these schools, but you got
to be able to call a spade a spade. The
Big Twelve is easily of the top the powerfour conferences.
Now the PAC twelve is dead, is the fourth, and

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I think there's a clear drop off with them. So
again not even in my opinion. The numbers speak for themselves.
If you if you combine the Big Ten or excuse me,
the Big Twelve in the ACC, you guys had less
draft in the SEC. What was your guy's number? It
was the SEC had seventy nine guys drafted, the Big

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Ten seventy one. You guys had thirty one. The Big
Ten had forty more players than you just not a
great football conference, now great basketball conference. What are your
thoughts on the Cardinals drafting? And again none of this stuff.
There are a couple agendas here and there. Hate the Lakers.
Not a huge chip Kelly guy. I used to not,

(52:32):
you know, I think I just everyone loves sark and
I thought he was pretty overrated. I've come around. I'm
pro Sarkisian. So if I got an agenda, I'll tell
you hey couldn't stand Brandon Staley. But for the most part, like,
there's no emotion here. I was. I'm aut Oklahoma guy.
I watched a lot of Big twelve football over the
last decade plus. What are your thoughts on the Cardinals

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drafting Will Johnson. He took a pretty pretty big fall
because of perceived knee issues. Like Miles Jack. I've heard
different things about the pre existing injury in terms of
what it actually is. Do you think it's a good fit,
and how do you feel about his future. I'm a
big Will Johnson guy. I mean, I thought two years
ago most would have considered him the best player on
Michigan's team, the best player. And early on this season,

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I remember, like the second game of the season, he
had a pick six against Fresno State the ice the
game he like Byron Murphy several years ago from Washington,
You're like, this guy is just a natural corner. Now,
the things I've heard negatively about him, he didn't run.
It's like, why doesn't he run? Well, he's not that fast, right,
He's not some four to three, low four to four guy.

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A lot of people think he's like low four fives,
mid four fives. There's some questions with his knees, and
they don't think he's super fast, so naturally he's gonna
get fall down a little bit. And then when people
question his knees, I think he's a natural. Now I'm
not a doctor. I don't know whether his knees are
going to hold up, whether they're not going to hold up,
if they do hold up. If you just tell me

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he does not have like a chronic knee issue right,
which again I have no clue. But if we remove
that and say that's not going to exist, he's just
gonna be like any other player. He'd get hurt or
he couldn't. If he's healthy. I think he's gonna be
a really good NFL player. Why because he is an
extremely talented player. So I love that pick. Is there

(54:22):
better content right now than the daily swag and boxing
by Gruden? Guy was built for entertainment? Totally agree. This
is why I'm always critical when these guys get hired,
you know, the Matt Ryans, the Drew Breeses. It's like
these guys, these guys are great players, high character guys,
just good dudes, just high level cats. They're not They're

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in the entertainment industry because they were great players. They're
not entertaining right, and it's what Brady struggled with. It's like,
you know, Tom Brady's a legend because he's got all
these Super Bowls and he's got one of the greatest
athletic careers in the history of civilization. That doesn't mean
he's entertaining. Like it's hard to entertain. It really is,

(55:06):
and it's a skill. Some guys have it. Gruden has
it in space. He is a unique personality. When he's
on camera, you're just gonna gravitate toward him, even when
he's doing dumb shit. I'm one hundred percent with you.
If he doesn't get a coaching job next year, I
guess they don't need him because of Troy Aikman, but
he should get back on TV. He's two hundred. He's
just too good. Good hire by Portnoy. He's just he's

(55:30):
just a unique talent. With Seattle taking Milroe, what do
you think his timetable is? Obviously we took him sort
of draft and stash let him learn behind Darnold. Is
it realistic that he wins the job this year itself?
Is it also realistic that he never becomes more than
a Taysom Hill type player. I guess I'm trying to
get your opinion on the fit. Well, you guys got

(55:50):
is Drew Locke back on the team too, because if
he is, I mean I think that Jalen Milroe is. Yeah,
so it is true Locke. I think Jalen Milroe more
than likely if I was a betting man right now,
is going to be the third string quarterback. And I
think what would make him unique because I think he'd

(56:11):
be the third string quarterback and he might dress and
they might give him some packages. I think unless he's
a complete disaster, which I don't see how he's gonna
be because he already knows the offense because he worked
with Kubiak with the forty nine ers. Absolutely no circumstance
in which it's even possible for him to beat out
Darnald one. They just gave basically guaranteed Donald fifty five
million dollars. So this is not one of those situations

(56:33):
where it's like he's unless he is just like Lamar
Jackson immediately, which he's not. I do think over the
course of a year, if he can improve his accuracy
and Sam Darnold does not live up to what he
was in Minnesota, things could change things could change fast,
So I would say that I bet he plays this

(56:54):
year because he brings a running element a little bit
like when they went with Russell Wilson last year in
fields would occasion come in for some runs. They will
do that with Jalen Milroe. And let's face it, like
if I like you enough to take you in the
third round as a quarterback, like I like you, That's
what the whole thing was. Shador and Dylan Gabriel like

(57:14):
they like Dylan Gabriel like that. That wasn't just like
it's a value pick. No, if I'm taking a quarterback
in the third round, like I like the player. Now,
it doesn't mean we've seen a lot of third round
quarterbacks become irrelevant. But I think that they are very
very intrigued with Jalen Milroe this year. Expectations would be
pretty small. I think by year two, like how does

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he look in the preseason, because if he's coming on,
it's like, well keep an eye especially you know what
We'll tell you a lot is next season. You know
is obviously depends what Sam Darnold does, but is he
just the backup quarterback? What do you think the Chiefs draft?
I love the show, and I would like to hear
your opinion. Let me pull that bad boy up really quick.

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I would say their first pick. I've talked to a
couple of people, and I would tend to agree that
if he was fully healthy, if he hadn't got hurt
at the end of the season, I mean, I think
he's a lock top ten pick, and I think he
would have been in the discussion depending on how the
you know, the offseason went for the number one tackle

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off the board. Now they got a guy who's injured,
and you know, I think maturity, you could probably use
that on a lot of guys, just some things that
you know they're gonna have to work on, like most
young players. But the talent is for a team that
needed offensive lineman, especially tackles, to get that guy at
the end of the first round, I think they were

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had to be pretty excited about that. The Mo Norman kid,
the pass rusher for he's a little crazy, but there
is no disputing he is. He's got some shit to him.
So again, one advantage you have when you have Andy
Reid and Mahomes and Kelsey and Chris Jones and McDuffie

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and all these high level guys like you could take
some players that other teams are scared off of, Like
no one disputes any of these guys talent, and the
Chiefs are good at that, and then you just mold
them in and then they just you have two options,
you fit in, your fit out, because the Chiefs can't
make a draft pick where if the guy's not good,
no one gives a fuck. It's the Chiefs. We're gonna

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win twelve games minimum, right, We're in the playoffs no
matter what. So it's like if we whiff on you, great,
that's your problem, because we've proven like guys can play.
They went pretty heavy on defense. Louisville is cal dB,
calt a couple DB's drafted. One thing you get, you know,

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Will Cox good defensive coach and uh bet cal. I
think the key to their team next year is gonna
be can their tackle position be better? And you know
what's Rice's situation coming off the injury? Can zavier' worthy
take the next step? Top two picks really talented. Given

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the available options at our draft slot, I think we
got really great value. This is the Chargers fan looking
at a roster on paper. I really don't see any
reason we can't seriously push the Chiefs. O line could
be top three unit in the NFL. Two excellent backs,
way more weapons in the passing game. Feels like we
got as many as five guys in our draft class

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that could start not making guarantees, but I think we're
gonna take this thing from Casey. On paper, it looks
like we have a good shot. What do you think.
I saw a picture, and again it's hard to tell
with the angle right because Jim, I've stood next to
Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh is big. Now, he's clearly I
would say, change his diet over the course of the

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last six seven years. He's more slender. But a Marion
Hampton who was right next to him, made him look small.
I'm trying to bring up his measurements. I think Marion
Hampton is basically six foot two d and twenty five pounds.
He's a beast. I mean, he's been really good, so

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I mean, I think if that guy like you said,
your offensive line is good, the Harbaugh philosophy is pretty evident.
He wants to run the ball down your throat, so
he gets Naji Harris, a physical running back who's not
as talented as this guy, and you get Hampton, Like,
to me, Hampton nase because he's a little older and

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benistarter like obviously starts as the starter. Hampton's the more
talented player. But like if you tell me, Najie Harris,
you're backup running behind Hampton, like, shove that down. I
mean they are going to run the ball at will
on people, especially behind their two tackles. And let's let's
face it, like his defensive coordinator might be the next
Mike McDonald who went through that system in Baltimore. Super

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high level guy, really smart and obviously a really really
good coach. I think the question mark's gonna be they
kept Khalil Mack, who's still solid, you know, defensively, like
if Derwin James stays healthy. They drafted defensive guys last year.
I think you guys are gonna be pretty good. I

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think he'll be pretty good. And the Chiefs won a
lot of games last year on the margins. I mean,
let's say, I mean Andy be the first tell you
they pulled some games out of their ass. I mean
that Denver game was lost until they won it. I
think they had a Raider game that was similar to
so listen. I mean you, guys, what was your record
this year? Twelve and five, eleven and six. So you

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win eleven and six, You're already were good in the division.
I mean you went four and two. Yeah, can you
get that to twelve or thirteen? Obviously the playoff thing's
gotta leave a bad taste in your mouth. He lost
to the Chiefs twice, but you played them well. I
mean you lost nineteen to seventeen and seventeen to ten.
You beat the Broncos twice, beat the Raiders, so basically,

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the Chiefs swept you and you beat everyone else. I'd
be pretty bullish. Now. Your schedule last year was a
little easy. Patriots, you got blown out by the Bucks, Falcons,
lost to the Ravens, beat the Bengals, it's a nice win. Titans, Saints, Cardinals,

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which you lost. Yeah, I'd feel pretty good if I
were you. Guys win the division. Like I said, I'm
never picking the Chiefs to lose the division until they
do it. But I think the Broncos and the Chargers
are both gonna be really good this year. The volume