September 30, 2025 • 37 mins
John Middlekauff tees off by reacting to a wild weekend at the Ryder Cup in Bethpage, NY in which Rory McIlroy, Jon Rahm, and Team Europe dominated Scottie Scheffler, Bryson DeChambeau, and Team USA for their second straight Ryder Cup victory. John speaks on his experience attending the Ryder Cup for the first time, reacts to the crowd response to Team Europe's performance, New York City as a whole, and much more. John wraps up by discussing what Team USA has to do to bounce back at the next Ryder Cup in 2027.
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The volume. What is going on everybody? This is our
new feed for the GOLO podcast. We have done it
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so this will be just its own golf podcast. During
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goal is to have interviews and kind of expand some
stuff here as well, so that'll be the plan today.
I was I was going to attempt to do this
Sunday night, but I ran out of juice. Part of
it was we went so hard at the party on
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Thursday in New York City with the we got to
go to the Zone Pouch party. They gave us tickets
for Friday, and then we went out again Friday night.
So it was you know, your boy doesn't quite have
it like he used to. But went to the Ryder
Cup on Friday. It was an incredible theater. I obviously
watched on Saturday and even Sunday during the NFL. It
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was awesome. Wrote down a bunch of thoughts and like
many people, just disappointed most of the time, just because
I wanted to see a good tournament, but also pretty prideful.
I mean, I found myself in a weird way, like
I kind of like this European team. Then we started
making a run. I started chatting like USA in my office.
It was a lot of fun. So make sure you subscribe.
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We'll have a lot of content and let's dive in
to some golf is. I've been very fortunate. I've been
to a Super Bowl, I've been to World Series multiple times,
and I've been to the NBA Finals. I was actually
the game that Lebron Game seven beat the Warriors, and
I've been to a ton of playoff games in those
sports as well, and I've never been to an event
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like this. It's obviously very unique because you get to
the course and there's not that many people on the course.
Right there are four groups and an alternate shot, there're
only what two golf balls, so there are eight total
golf balls on the course at one time. And where
I set up shop, you know, in the second half
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of the day was like whole seventeen. A couple of
the groups didn't even make it to us because we
were getting dropped, we were getting destroyed. And I think
what makes this event really really special, And I think
I might probably tweeted this out on the Everything app
if I was an American golfer, if you told me
you could win one tournament in the world in your career,
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if you were a pro, it would be the Masters.
And I think most universally, if we just pulled American golfers,
pro golfers, young guys that want to be pros, they'd
be like, I want to win the Masters. I think
this event would easily be second. I would rather play
in this event, especially win this event. I've never seen
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anything like this. It was like golf meets the SEC
meets like a World war. Obviously, no one's dying here.
I mean there was a scene when I got there
because people get there so early. It looked like some
of those pictures that you saw like from Vietnam or
something with these guys like laying out and it was
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just like bodies everywhere. People were just destroyed because you're
getting there at the crack of dawn and you're drinking. Again,
it's different than no one's dying. I'm not paralleling it there.
I'm just saying the scene of just a bunch of
dudes from like twenty five to forty just spread out everywhere.
I was like, what is going on here? But you
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could sit at whole fifteen and you're waiting three hours
before anyone comes your way. But there is just like
this buzz on the course which has an enormous I
would say Acreage. I'd never been to Best Page before this.
It is massive. It's a massive piece property. It looks
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like a course that doesn't actually look that fun, but
it'd be a fun course to just say you played,
to just check it off the bucket list. Obviously it
was playing much. I didn't think it looked that easy,
but relative to these guys, they were destroying it. And
by the time we got there on Friday, we had
gotten drubbed in the morning. Right your boy was out
to about three point thirty in the morning on Thursday
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night into Friday. I had some ambitious plans, but we
didn't make their make it there till basically they were
ting off for the second round and we just proceeded
to get destroyed again. And there you know this event, right.
You obviously saw the passion that all the Europeans had
when they won it. Throughout the event, clearly they played great.
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And if Scottie Scheffler is not going to be playing well,
which he clearly didn't up to his standards. I mean
I watched him on a couple holes hit shots like
that didn't look that great, Like what is going on?
I was on the plane about to land when he
had a wedge end to eighteen on Saturday morning in
the first group, and he almost shanked it. I think
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it was like one hundred and seven yard shot and
he definitely hit some hostle and it barely cleared the
bunker and ended up in this shitty spot for Henley
that you know, got up and down, but it didn't
even matter and they lost that Europeans. And this is
why I said, like, listen, I'm as pro America as
anyone that talks about sports for a living. But if
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you remove the emotion, this is not a fair fight.
I mean they have if Scotty, assuming that he played well,
I think they had the next three or four best players, right.
You know, Rory won multiple times this year and won
the Masters. Tommy Fleetwood is arguably the hottest player in
the world. John Rahm Is had an excellent season on
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Live and you know, definitely came to play in the Majors.
But you just chock him up for this thing. Justin
Rose had just won within the last couple of months
and has played in about fifty of these fucking things
and is one of the best play the last twenty
five years, so felt pretty good about him. Terrell Hatton
unreal and you're just like, I don't know, man, some
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of their random guys are like Bob McIntyre, And every
time I looked up at a PGA tour leader board,
there was McIntyre on the thing. So it's like their
teams loaded. Now it's like, well, home Soil, New York
is gonna get crazy. My experience wasn't that crazy. I
didn't see that many people crossing the line. Now my
number one takeaway is people are just getting annihilated drunk there.
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So the amount of alcohol consumed had to shatter records
relative to the amount of people that were in the
that were let into the gates. I would say the
average amount of drinks for a mail that crossed the
you know, the Beth Page sign and got into the
gates had to be like five and a half. It
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had to be extremely high. And these were not you know,
a beer Wakashia fifteen bucks. A cocktail was twenty one dollars,
and people were slamming those things myself included, though I
was so hungover, it was actually just bringing me back
to neutral. But I just was kind of people watching
and I saw like I didn't see any of the
fu to a player, which clearly was happening and getting
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pretty uncomfortable. Where I am always anti tossing a guy
out of a PGA event, I get if people are
constantly saying fuck you to me, it's why those guys
were saying it back to them. Getting guys tossed out
I had no issue with, and clearly I think it
got a little crazy on Saturday or Sunday, but there's
no disputing that that group from Rory to rom to
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Fleetwood DeRose pretty unfazed by it because, as the kids
would say, that was belta ass. And if it wasn't
for a couple hours stretch on Sunday, this thing wasn't
even remotely close. We got drubbed. And I have a
big picture thought on this just I think as Americans
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we are wired a lot different than Europeans. I haven't
been to Europe in twenty years, but I remember when
I went there. The pace and listen everywhere in America
is different. I was thinking this, Like, when I flew
out to New York, I hadn't been there in a
long long time. I'd only been there a couple times
in my entire life. There is a pace when I'm
just in the uber from JFK to Manhattan. I swear
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to god, we got almost in seventy five X and
my uber driver was completely unfaced, and he's bobbing and
weaving in and out of things like he's Dale Earnhart.
And then staying in the city for a couple of days.
I don't know how more people on an hourly basis
don't die in crosswalks, which I always said this like
one thing I related to a lot in Philly. I
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kind of like the character of the people now. Philly
and New York are a little different, but there is
a similar aggressive nature. Go to Europe. It's not like
that these people are not wired like that. So just
as a society, we are wired a lot different than
the people that we were playing against. There's also this
we're obsessed with money here, which listen, I'm guilty too.
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It's a huge which part of our culture, and the Europeans,
especially the guys playing in this, are filthy rich. It's
not like they're anti money. John Ram took four hundred
million dollars to go to live. Rory's made five six,
seven hundred million dollars in his career. You know, Tommy
Fleetwood's definitely made over one hundred million. Justin Rose has
made several These guys are super rich. So it's not
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like they you know, I hate this. It's like we
were obsessed with money. They're not. They love their money too.
They all these guys are living in massive mansions in Florida,
in Dallas, Texas, in Arizona, like John Ram lives down
the street. For me, it ain't a small pad. So
these guys like their coin, but this event to them,
and Paul McGinley said this on Saturday is just about
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something more and something special, where clearly for us, I
mean it goes back to the Tiger and Phil Days
held back to like I think Jack, we have had
a huge issue with doing this for free, right or
not doing this for not being just straight up paid
like an appearance fee. And last year the no hat
Pat or two years ago was basically Xander even as
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Dad said it like this, it's kind of bs. It's
messed up and you get there, you realize, like this
event is generating an insane amount of money, and our guys,
the way we're brought up in this country, if you're
in business or partnered and just involved in this, you'd
be like where is my cut? Which I kind of understand.
Who's to say that if you or I weren't in
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that position that Can't Lays in. I was like, I'm
looking around, I see Goldman Sacks, I see all these
law firms paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for a
suite on whole eighteen that half of the group's never
even make it to and there are sweets everywhere all
over the facility. But as Paul McGinley said, that was
a rallying cry for us because we never talk about
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money when it comes to this event. And let's face it,
like Xander and Can't lay became friends like five six
years ago, Bryce and d Chambeau wasn't friends with these
guys that their relationship as a team like JJ Spawn
is not close with JT. Justin Thomas like these guys.
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Keith and Bradley has admitted that for about a decade
plus as he played in the PGA tour, he had
no friends, he hated everybody. Yet when you see the
visual and the still shot of Tommy Fleetwood grabbing Justin
Rose's head and then touching foreheads, it's like you can't
fake the bond that these two guys have, even though
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they're different age ranges, coming from Europe and becoming PGA
tour stars, Rory and Shane Lowry have known each other
for decades, Like that's not like random, we're both just
golfers or buddies, like they are true childhood friends. And
I think there is something that and I told this
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to Coward on Sunday night when we talked about it
after football, is if you do business right with someone
a random guy that you don't care about, that's great, whatever.
But when you do something professionally in life with someone
you care a lot about, someone you have a high
level of respect, someone you consider a friend, there is
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a different element to it, and we can't fake that. Right.
Our two most famous players the last twenty five years
didn't even like each other, Tiger and Phil. Now, I
don't think it's that with this because Scotty's an easygoing guy.
Everyone likes them. But do I go, yeah, Scotty Scheffler
and bryceon d Chambeau are really really close friends. They
text and talk all the time. Of course not and
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but like, all
these guys can play golf, right, and if they get hot,
every single one of these guys, all twenty four of them,
and obviously the elite guys can shoot sixty five with
their eyes close. And the Scotti's and the Fleetwoods and
the Justin Thomases and the Cam Smith or Cam Young's
and the Rams, they can shoot sixty when they're on
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like they can fucking dominate. So it's like, what is
the separate factor? Because I hear all these different opinions
they made puts they didn't made puts. Those guys that cohesion,
They genuinely like each other like and there is a
bond that they have because they've had to leave their
countries to come to ours to make a living. Because
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the DP World Tour like cool, it doesn't pay what
it pays over here, right, the pinnacle of the sport
is here. Special bond. Think about like the NBA or baseball.
If you are from Cuba or you are from the
Dominican and you come over here and you become a
stud in Major League Baseball and you have a teammate,
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who do you think you're gonna be closest with the
other dude from Dominican that maybe you knew from when
you were a kid, or have mutual friends, or the
three dudes from Dallas and Alabama. It's just just human nature, right.
People have clicks from from football teams to offices to
watch a show like about a prison. People gravitate toward
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people they're used to being around. And I think that's
what the European Ryder Cup on the most basic level,
assuming all things are equal, which they clearly were not.
They had the better team. They have that advantage and
you can't manipulate that. Right. As you get older, I'll
give an example, I'm forty years old making new friends,
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like you get new people in your life, and it's
really powerful when you meet someone that you respect and
you like and you can call a friend. But there
is something about like when you look back, I've known
this guy for thirty years, and that having that background
with the human being, and as you get older, maybe
you look at life differently, maybe you go down different
roads professionally. One guy's success. One guy doesn't whatever, But
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there's a bond that you have with that person that
you're probably just not going to have with many other people,
even as they come into your life as you age.
And I think that's evident when you watch this Ryder Cup.
I mean I really do. And I also think there's
a level of like if these guys can handle whatever
was being said to them on Friday and or Saturday
and Sunday, Like I don't see how if all things,
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like guys are just playing well, we don't get destroyed
in a couple of years. Their advantage is massive and
we just won't overcome, like we just all of a
sudden won't care, Like yeah, it's not about the money man.
And I'm not saying our guys don't care like being
out there. One thing I will never do again is
like I think the points list is fucking meaningless. Obviously,
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you're not just gonna take guys who are playing like crap,
like you want guys that are playing well but watching
that environment, Like justin Thomas, now he's not playing his
best golf right now, but he's very comfortable in that environment.
He's extremely comfortable in that environment, and you watch Colin
more COWI You're like, I don't know if he's that comfortable.
You watch Russell Henley, who's had an incredible season, like
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you know, I don't know, I'm just not quite seeing it.
And then you watch the way like Fleetwood and Justin
Rose and Shane Lowry and Rory and he's to carry
themselves like they're just some dogs, you know. And I
just think moving forward, we gotta have like a dog checklist,
like you kind of gotta be ready for the heat.
And you can't just take oh, he's played well in
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the Hunda Classic, he did really well in the the
at and T the Pro Corps Championship. No one that
compares to this zero percent, absolutely zero percent, and like
you need like Cam Young showed me like that guy's
a dog. I mean that guy is a Here's the
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thing with Bryson. He's different, right, but like that guy
lived for that week. You know, Justin Thomas has for
a long time. I'll even say this, like he needs
to play better, but Patrick can't lay if he's if
he's playing decently, is on my team and all these
other random guys like it's very, very difficult to just
bring some random guy and Europeans have not done that
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the last couple of times, and it's been massive advantage
them now clearly for whatever reason I can imagine. And
Keopka used to say this in one area, we got
screwed that they didn't like rom Hatton left and like
those guys kept kicking ass and taking names. We lost
DJ and Kepka to live and they're just like quit.
It's like kind of need the thoroughbreads. Like you know,
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when Morikawa became a star at the Ryder Cup at
Whistling Straits, you know his partner was Dustin Freakin Johnson,
an absolute thoroughbread and you're looking out there, like where
are thoroughbreads beside? Like Scottie Scheffler and the way Cam
Young was playing in Bryson's energy, they don't really exist.
You know. I think JJ Spond. I got no problem
with JJ Spond being on the team as like eleventh
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or twelfth guy, and I know he qualified, but like
I said, the point thing like justin Rose, you want
that guy in the trenches with you, Like it's just
so evident and obvious, like this guy is just this
guy's made for this event. Why because he has twenty
five years of playing at an extremely high level against Tiger,
against Phil, against Dustin Johnson, against every fucking person that's
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played golf since the internet started, and you're looking, you're
like Russell Henley, a cute little story, supposed to be
a good putter, can't make a putt for to save
his life on this you know, in this tournament, doesn't
hit the ball very far. What's going on? And I
also think Keegan Bradley looking back, should have been on
the team a couple of years ago, because he's a
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good example that if he wasn't the captain. He's a
guy like JT, like Bryson that really cares and this
event means a lot to him and wants to be
in the fire. Now. He doesn't know if he's gonna
make the shot or miss the shot, but he wants
the ball in his hands. He's not gonna pass it.
And he was named the captain who's putting into a
precarious situation. I don't blame him at all for, you know,
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for taking the role and then he was in a
tough situation ultimately punted on being on the team where
he clearly is better and like he did have enough
faith in a guy that he rolled out, which we
can debate whether Harris English and Colin Mori Cows should
have gone out a second time. Well, obviously not. If
Harris English is gonna be in the envelope, that tells
you exactly what you think of the guy, even though
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I would have put Colin Morricle in the envelope regardless. Like,
our team is all messed up, and I saw Jeff
Ogilvy today at the gym and I said, you know,
the one sad thing is like it felt like we panicked.
You know, we had some ideas of our teams and
then we played bad. It's like they didn't panic. He's like, honestly,
when you start losing, He's like, I've been to a
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lot of President's Cup. It's a natural reaction to start
flipping things. If the roles were reversed, they probably would
have done the same thing. So it's easy to go
while they found because they kept talking about this on
the broadcast. Is like Rory and Fleetwood. It's taken forever
to find Rory and awesome partner, and then you see
him playing with Fleetwood. It's like Scotty and Michael running
the Fast Break in nineteen ninety two and you're watching us,
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We're like placing Scotty with like seven different guys. It's like,
what are we doing? We're putting can't lay with different
guys and Cam Young, we don't know, we don't have
any team cohesion. And the only group that like historically
we've had over the last I don't know how many
times is Speith and Thomas. Well, Speith played like crap
and is injured and his Mia and Xander and Cantley,
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but like we don't really have a partner for Scottie Scheffer.
Cam Young is new to the team. Guess what he's
on the team moving forward if he's playing well. And
you know JT's partner's missing. So we and we have
these new guys, we're not sure how to put them in.
We don't know if they're gonna be able to handle
the heat because it's pretty hot here in the kitchen
and it was all just out of whack and a
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lot of people are blaming you know, the one thing,
I just walked around because I'd never been there. So
when guys are on like whole four, five and six
and you're walking to you know, get to hold nine
and ten. You kind of walk through the course like
you go through fourteen, thirteen, twelve, and you can just
walk on a hole when no one's there. And the
rough I mean was legitimately short. Like now, the course
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for a normal guy, you know, looked really long, like
really tough. I know these guys were unlimited birdies. I
do think the average like I'm like a five five handicap.
I don't know if I'm breaking eighty five right now.
Maybe who knows. Maybe the greens were much slower and
it would have been easier, but it looked outrageously long.
But one thing we've seen with these guys, if it
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is soft and there's no rough, they will annihilate any
course in the world. And obviously the Europeans were playing
much better and they've been us over. But there's an
element of like the cohesion. This gets back to what
I said about friendship and partnerships. Imagine people, if you
play golf, like a guy that you play a lot
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of golf with, you have a pretty good chemistry with them,
right that you can go into a tournament a member
member or a member guest. If that's a guy that
you play with a lot of the year. If I
just put you with a random guy, even if you're
both similar players, who knows. And that's what kind of
felt that we were doing. It's not because these guys
were bad guys or playing that bad. It was we
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just have no chemistry and the way our sport is built,
and they just do everything on their own. And I
remember Koepka's quotes. I think it was in Rome that
you know, just the Ryder Cup really throws off your routine,
and it feels like we complain a lot about that,
like your routine routine. I never hear the Europeans talking
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about routine. It's like, okay, you get a shorter warm up, whatever,
we'll be ready. Okay, this is a little different than
we're used to. Okay, what do we gotta do? And
we're always bitching and moaning, and there's like a country
club vibe to our operation that there just isn't with
these guys, even though they're equally as rich. Honestly, their
crew now is probably like the group they just rolled
out is richer and our guys, but there is like
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this I don't know, this this thing that's in their roots,
like in the way they grew up that they are
able to throw back to. Like, most of those dudes
from Europe did not grow up on a country club.
Most of those dudes from Europe were not playing sweet
courses until like sixteen seventeen years old, right, most of
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those guys. It's just a much harder life in Europe
in terms of the wealth. Most of our guys grew
up our country clubs, grew up playing fucking pretty well.
And I just think there's like a grittiness in this
situation that we lacked that they had. You can say, oh,
well they made putts. Yeah, I don't know. I was there.
I saw it. I was like, I'm betting on those guys,
not on those guys. It was tangible being there, it
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really was. And then when we didn't have anything to
play for, right, it was like, well, we're gonna get
our ass kicked anyway, let's just be loose and start
firing it pins we stormed back then. Obviously we got
some momentum and we're talented and we didn't quit. But
it's much easier. And this is another thing Oldgilvie said,
it's much easier to being underdog. And I'd argue for
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anything in life. Right, it's easy to be the guy
chasing and to be motivated into wanting and they were
a massive underdog. No, you're not gonna win in New York.
We're not because Roy mclroy's going, I'm better in everyone here,
especially in this environment. I'm better than Scottie Scheffler. We
go who's our second best player? Bryson well Fleetwood's playing
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way better than he is right now, who's the third
best player? Because I'll take John Rahm over them all.
Do they have a Justin Rose on this operation? Looking around? Nope?
You know, and it's like, yeah, Shane Lowry might not
be as good as some of their guys, but put
him with me, Roy McElroy, I'll bet your ass he is.
And that's just there's gonna be a lot of talk
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about this and that, Like I do think that's a huge,
huge element, and I will look at this different moving forward.
Is when you pick the team, like, I'll pick a
guy that's twentieth on the points, right, if he's playing
decent and I know that he can handle it, And
I'd say Max Holme would be a guy who has
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played well in crazy environments and you feel in tough environments. Now,
he can't be you know, the eightieth guy in the
world at the time, and you could argue world rankings,
but you know what I mean, he's got to be
playing better than he is now. But I would lean
to take those guys over just looking at the points.
Who gives a flying you know what about the points?
They are so irrelevant moving forward. Honestly, I don't know
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exactly how you would do this. I would have zero
automatic qualifiers. I would pick the entire team from scratch. Clearly,
some of the guys that have high points are gonna
be auto picks, right. You would never pass on Skytie
Scheffler or but like Russell Handley's third, he's been awesome
on the PGA Tour. Is gonna translate? I don't know,
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might not, because if I don't think it does, then
he's not coming. And that's what I would do, because
I just saw a team. It was like the big
dogs versus the buppies, and I think a huge element
was like, oh, this guy's playing well. You know May
and April and June on the PGA Tour. I've been
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a PGA Tour tournaments, nothing like what I just witness
out there. Nothing. The just intensity of it all was
probably felt like Penn State at night or LSU at
night or Georgia Bama at night. It was just an intensity.
They're like, this is a different animal. And I'm obviously
guys screaming at the Euros, but even the intensity if
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you're an American, like all these people looking at you,
you're wearing American you know, colors, everyone's wearing American colors.
It was it was intense, and I mean it's just
I think what makes the event so cool is like,
there's not that much happening at it, right. If you
go on Friday or Saturday, there are four different groups
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twice the morning. In the afternoon, there's not that much
golf going on, right, And if you stick on whole
one and you watch them all go off, well it
ends after the last group, right, So if you sit
on whole sixteen or especially toward the end of the
golf course, there's a chance that people are getting dropped.
They do not make it to you. We were on
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seventeen and we had kind of bobbed and weaved and
watched them. Two of the four groups did not make
it to us. They didn't make it to us, and
I think that's what makes the events so cool, and
no one even cares. It's just like kind of out
there drinking, partying, having a good time. But man, I
just it was really cool, really enjoyed, you know, just
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the whole experience. I think I'm gonna I'm recording this
before the Monday night football games, but I'll probably go
on a rant about New York City blown away. I've
just as a Philly guy, I've always kind of naturally
talked shit because I've only been there a couple of times.
I was there a lot younger, and you know, I
spent multiple years, three years in Philly but living there
for two, and just the people I were around always
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talks shit, so I just agreed to them. It's like, yeah,
New York sucks, and then you're there, you're like this,
and I expected it. Like San Francisco is a dump,
it's really dirty, so I expected that with New York City.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I kept I was blown away. It's like clean, Like
where are the crackheads? We're the homeless encampments, Like they
don't exist here in Manhattan. Like this place is, this
place is vibing. It's just an energy there. It's like
Vegas meets a big city, meets a lot of Irish
pubs and booze and now it's expensive, borderlineer ripoff. But
I did like the train, the Penn station across from MSG.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's just that the food court was like nights in
the food court where I stayed going to Fox Sports
one at the mall in Century City. It's like this,
this place is incredible. I might just eat dinner here.
So I had a really, really good time. I think
the Ryder Cup is a pretty special event, and it
would take me a lot to pay close attention to
something on you know, a late September Saturday and Sunday,
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and I easily did. I didn't even think twice about it.
And it's just there's a palpable energy obviously when you're there,
but even when you're watching it on television, you're like this,
this feels really big and they feel it. And that's where,
you know, Kopka used to say this about the majors,
like I'm only competing against ten to twelve guys, And
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what he's saying is most people here are gonna crumble
under the pressure. Well, if there are twenty four guys
in a Ryder Cup. It's it may be less of
a percentage because to make it here as much more difficult.
But there is something that like some of these guys
are gonna crumble under the weight and it's gonna be
too much, and they're gonna put too much pressure on themselves.
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And that's what makes golf different than like in football.
You can try really hard if you're a defensive lineman
or a linebacker or an offensive guard. Right in basketball,
you can work your feet, play defense, just get into it.
In golf, the harder you try, sometimes the worst you play.
I think Kegan mentioned this, it's a weird sport that way,
so you kind of you got to be in this
weird like into it and focus but also kind of relaxed.
(29:56):
And I just don't think we've found our spot the
last couple of times, and we're changing our team dramatically
from two years to two years. And part of that
is on the players. I mean they're playing poorly, and
part of that is some of our legendary I mean,
Keptka won five majors and he won the waste management twice.
Think about that. Kepka's won five majors in the waste
management twice. What does that say about Brooks Koepka. He's
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a bright lights guy. He's made for this event. You
can give me. I don't even know what his record is.
I know this if he's playing decently, this type event
where you feel pretty good. And I know he was
shitty last time in Rome. But my point is like,
like they need that personality. Well, he doesn't exist anymore
because he's not playing well at golf. DJ just kind
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of waved a white flag just over it. DJ's a
good example, like he ain't gonna be that face by
this He's seen it all right, and those guys are
just gone. So it's like insert Harris English who he
seems like a nice guy, good player. They put him
in the envelope. If you get put in the envelope,
it's like should you even And I get you have
to put someone in the envelope, but I think that
(30:59):
tells you everything he needs. No, and Morikawa just can't
be on this team. Nobody wanted him on this team.
He wasn't trending to be on this team. And not
only was he put on this team, it felt like
Kegan believed in him more than all of us, which
is crazy because he's not playing well. He's just he
does not pass the eye test and clearly does not
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pass the on the course test because he got his
ass kicked twice twice and at least Harris English got
put in the envelope. He's getting his butt kicked, Like,
I don't know, it's crazy, but yeah, man I it
was extremely fun to watch. I mean that that's stretch yesterday,
Cam Young coming down the stretch winning that match, justin
(31:42):
Thomas making that putt and Bryson d Chambeau coming storming
back in his match was as good of a couple
hour stretch as we've had. That was in Scottie versus Rory.
That that was really pretty sweet. We were, you know,
we were probably a Bryson putt away from having a
real real chance once he pushed his match. It was
(32:04):
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basically it could come down to Moricawa. We're like, oh,
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people with the PGA of America, people with the DP
World Cup. Can you imagine if this wasn't during an
NFL Sunday and it was just on I don't know,
NFL preseason, the amount of people that would watch this.
I do think the calendars. I've always said this about baseball.
Shorten it and move it back. How are you competing
against the NFL in October? No one's gonna pay attention
(35:55):
unless it's Yankees and Dodgers Like you're in major trouble
that that was. I'm a I love this type stuff
any sport if it matters that much, and I watched,
But I'm afraid that a lot of people I think
that would have enjoyed it, would have watched or watching,
like Jackson Dart are watching the Eagles play Tampa Bay,
(36:17):
and I think you would cut through if this was
the last week of August, when the NFL is done,
even with the preseason, and it's basically the opening weekend
of college football. Win there's a couple games and that
would be my recommendation. But hopefully Brian rollapp gets more
involved and we can figure some stuff out. But overall,
(36:38):
props the Europeans incredible, incredible, dominant win. And while the
score looks close, let's be real. It was close for
about three hours on Sunday, but for two and a
half days it was an all time beatdown. I mean,
at one point time it looked like it was going
to be historic routing and we had pride became storn
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back that the Bryson moments were really cool. Cam Young
hitting that put I mean being a New York guy
hitting that at best page where I think he won
an amateur event leading. You know, anytime that someone when
you weren't that big of trouble and you sent him
off first, shows you the respect that how well these
guys thought of him, and Keagan believed he was playing
and he answered the bell especially, you know, I mean,
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the guys are beating you know, Rose Fleetwood Rory. It was.
It was not easy. So they did their part and
it was extremely entertaining, but I think I don't think
we're gonna win the next one. The volume
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stuff here as well, so that'll be the plan today.
I was I was going to attempt to do this
Sunday night, but I ran out of juice. Part of
it was we went so hard at the party on
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Thursday in New York City with the we got to
go to the Zone Pouch party. They gave us tickets
for Friday, and then we went out again Friday night.
So it was you know, your boy doesn't quite have
it like he used to. But went to the Ryder
Cup on Friday. It was an incredible theater. I obviously
watched on Saturday and even Sunday during the NFL. It
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was awesome. Wrote down a bunch of thoughts and like
many people, just disappointed most of the time, just because
I wanted to see a good tournament, but also pretty prideful.
I mean, I found myself in a weird way, like
I kind of like this European team. Then we started
making a run. I started chatting like USA in my office.
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We'll have a lot of content and let's dive in
to some golf is. I've been very fortunate. I've been
to a Super Bowl, I've been to World Series multiple times,
and I've been to the NBA Finals. I was actually
the game that Lebron Game seven beat the Warriors, and
I've been to a ton of playoff games in those
sports as well, and I've never been to an event
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like this. It's obviously very unique because you get to
the course and there's not that many people on the course.
Right there are four groups and an alternate shot, there're
only what two golf balls, so there are eight total
golf balls on the course at one time. And where
I set up shop, you know, in the second half
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of the day was like whole seventeen. A couple of
the groups didn't even make it to us because we
were getting dropped, we were getting destroyed. And I think
what makes this event really really special, And I think
I might probably tweeted this out on the Everything app
if I was an American golfer, if you told me
you could win one tournament in the world in your career,
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if you were a pro, it would be the Masters.
And I think most universally, if we just pulled American golfers,
pro golfers, young guys that want to be pros, they'd
be like, I want to win the Masters. I think
this event would easily be second. I would rather play
in this event, especially win this event. I've never seen
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anything like this. It was like golf meets the SEC
meets like a World war. Obviously, no one's dying here.
I mean there was a scene when I got there
because people get there so early. It looked like some
of those pictures that you saw like from Vietnam or
something with these guys like laying out and it was
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just like bodies everywhere. People were just destroyed because you're
getting there at the crack of dawn and you're drinking. Again,
it's different than no one's dying. I'm not paralleling it there.
I'm just saying the scene of just a bunch of
dudes from like twenty five to forty just spread out everywhere.
I was like, what is going on here? But you
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could sit at whole fifteen and you're waiting three hours
before anyone comes your way. But there is just like
this buzz on the course which has an enormous I
would say Acreage. I'd never been to Best Page before this.
It is massive. It's a massive piece property. It looks
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like a course that doesn't actually look that fun, but
it'd be a fun course to just say you played,
to just check it off the bucket list. Obviously it
was playing much. I didn't think it looked that easy,
but relative to these guys, they were destroying it. And
by the time we got there on Friday, we had
gotten drubbed in the morning. Right your boy was out
to about three point thirty in the morning on Thursday
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night into Friday. I had some ambitious plans, but we
didn't make their make it there till basically they were
ting off for the second round and we just proceeded
to get destroyed again. And there you know this event, right.
You obviously saw the passion that all the Europeans had
when they won it. Throughout the event, clearly they played great.
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And if Scottie Scheffler is not going to be playing well,
which he clearly didn't up to his standards. I mean
I watched him on a couple holes hit shots like
that didn't look that great, Like what is going on?
I was on the plane about to land when he
had a wedge end to eighteen on Saturday morning in
the first group, and he almost shanked it. I think
(05:05):
it was like one hundred and seven yard shot and
he definitely hit some hostle and it barely cleared the
bunker and ended up in this shitty spot for Henley
that you know, got up and down, but it didn't
even matter and they lost that Europeans. And this is
why I said, like, listen, I'm as pro America as
anyone that talks about sports for a living. But if
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you remove the emotion, this is not a fair fight.
I mean they have if Scotty, assuming that he played well,
I think they had the next three or four best players, right.
You know, Rory won multiple times this year and won
the Masters. Tommy Fleetwood is arguably the hottest player in
the world. John Rahm Is had an excellent season on
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Live and you know, definitely came to play in the Majors.
But you just chock him up for this thing. Justin
Rose had just won within the last couple of months
and has played in about fifty of these fucking things
and is one of the best play the last twenty
five years, so felt pretty good about him. Terrell Hatton
unreal and you're just like, I don't know, man, some
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of their random guys are like Bob McIntyre, And every
time I looked up at a PGA tour leader board,
there was McIntyre on the thing. So it's like their
teams loaded. Now it's like, well, home Soil, New York
is gonna get crazy. My experience wasn't that crazy. I
didn't see that many people crossing the line. Now my
number one takeaway is people are just getting annihilated drunk there.
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So the amount of alcohol consumed had to shatter records
relative to the amount of people that were in the
that were let into the gates. I would say the
average amount of drinks for a mail that crossed the
you know, the Beth Page sign and got into the
gates had to be like five and a half. It
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had to be extremely high. And these were not you know,
a beer Wakashia fifteen bucks. A cocktail was twenty one dollars,
and people were slamming those things myself included, though I
was so hungover, it was actually just bringing me back
to neutral. But I just was kind of people watching
and I saw like I didn't see any of the
fu to a player, which clearly was happening and getting
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pretty uncomfortable. Where I am always anti tossing a guy
out of a PGA event, I get if people are
constantly saying fuck you to me, it's why those guys
were saying it back to them. Getting guys tossed out
I had no issue with, and clearly I think it
got a little crazy on Saturday or Sunday, but there's
no disputing that that group from Rory to rom to
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Fleetwood DeRose pretty unfazed by it because, as the kids
would say, that was belta ass. And if it wasn't
for a couple hours stretch on Sunday, this thing wasn't
even remotely close. We got drubbed. And I have a
big picture thought on this just I think as Americans
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we are wired a lot different than Europeans. I haven't
been to Europe in twenty years, but I remember when
I went there. The pace and listen everywhere in America
is different. I was thinking this, Like, when I flew
out to New York, I hadn't been there in a
long long time. I'd only been there a couple times
in my entire life. There is a pace when I'm
just in the uber from JFK to Manhattan. I swear
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to god, we got almost in seventy five X and
my uber driver was completely unfaced, and he's bobbing and
weaving in and out of things like he's Dale Earnhart.
And then staying in the city for a couple of days.
I don't know how more people on an hourly basis
don't die in crosswalks, which I always said this like
one thing I related to a lot in Philly. I
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kind of like the character of the people now. Philly
and New York are a little different, but there is
a similar aggressive nature. Go to Europe. It's not like
that these people are not wired like that. So just
as a society, we are wired a lot different than
the people that we were playing against. There's also this
we're obsessed with money here, which listen, I'm guilty too.
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It's a huge which part of our culture, and the Europeans,
especially the guys playing in this, are filthy rich. It's
not like they're anti money. John Ram took four hundred
million dollars to go to live. Rory's made five six,
seven hundred million dollars in his career. You know, Tommy
Fleetwood's definitely made over one hundred million. Justin Rose has
made several These guys are super rich. So it's not
(09:21):
like they you know, I hate this. It's like we
were obsessed with money. They're not. They love their money too.
They all these guys are living in massive mansions in Florida,
in Dallas, Texas, in Arizona, like John Ram lives down
the street. For me, it ain't a small pad. So
these guys like their coin, but this event to them,
and Paul McGinley said this on Saturday is just about
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something more and something special, where clearly for us, I
mean it goes back to the Tiger and Phil Days
held back to like I think Jack, we have had
a huge issue with doing this for free, right or
not doing this for not being just straight up paid
like an appearance fee. And last year the no hat
Pat or two years ago was basically Xander even as
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Dad said it like this, it's kind of bs. It's
messed up and you get there, you realize, like this
event is generating an insane amount of money, and our guys,
the way we're brought up in this country, if you're
in business or partnered and just involved in this, you'd
be like where is my cut? Which I kind of understand.
Who's to say that if you or I weren't in
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that position that Can't Lays in. I was like, I'm
looking around, I see Goldman Sacks, I see all these
law firms paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for a
suite on whole eighteen that half of the group's never
even make it to and there are sweets everywhere all
over the facility. But as Paul McGinley said, that was
a rallying cry for us because we never talk about
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money when it comes to this event. And let's face it,
like Xander and Can't lay became friends like five six
years ago, Bryce and d Chambeau wasn't friends with these
guys that their relationship as a team like JJ Spawn
is not close with JT. Justin Thomas like these guys.
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Keith and Bradley has admitted that for about a decade
plus as he played in the PGA tour, he had
no friends, he hated everybody. Yet when you see the
visual and the still shot of Tommy Fleetwood grabbing Justin
Rose's head and then touching foreheads, it's like you can't
fake the bond that these two guys have, even though
(11:28):
they're different age ranges, coming from Europe and becoming PGA
tour stars, Rory and Shane Lowry have known each other
for decades, Like that's not like random, we're both just
golfers or buddies, like they are true childhood friends. And
I think there is something that and I told this
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to Coward on Sunday night when we talked about it
after football, is if you do business right with someone
a random guy that you don't care about, that's great, whatever.
But when you do something professionally in life with someone
you care a lot about, someone you have a high
level of respect, someone you consider a friend, there is
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a different element to it, and we can't fake that. Right.
Our two most famous players the last twenty five years
didn't even like each other, Tiger and Phil. Now, I
don't think it's that with this because Scotty's an easygoing guy.
Everyone likes them. But do I go, yeah, Scotty Scheffler
and bryceon d Chambeau are really really close friends. They
text and talk all the time. Of course not and
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but like, all
these guys can play golf, right, and if they get hot,
every single one of these guys, all twenty four of them,
and obviously the elite guys can shoot sixty five with
their eyes close. And the Scotti's and the Fleetwoods and
the Justin Thomases and the Cam Smith or Cam Young's
and the Rams, they can shoot sixty when they're on
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like they can fucking dominate. So it's like, what is
the separate factor? Because I hear all these different opinions
they made puts they didn't made puts. Those guys that cohesion,
They genuinely like each other like and there is a
bond that they have because they've had to leave their
countries to come to ours to make a living. Because
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the DP World Tour like cool, it doesn't pay what
it pays over here, right, the pinnacle of the sport
is here. Special bond. Think about like the NBA or baseball.
If you are from Cuba or you are from the
Dominican and you come over here and you become a
stud in Major League Baseball and you have a teammate,
(13:37):
who do you think you're gonna be closest with the
other dude from Dominican that maybe you knew from when
you were a kid, or have mutual friends, or the
three dudes from Dallas and Alabama. It's just just human nature, right.
People have clicks from from football teams to offices to
watch a show like about a prison. People gravitate toward
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people they're used to being around. And I think that's
what the European Ryder Cup on the most basic level,
assuming all things are equal, which they clearly were not.
They had the better team. They have that advantage and
you can't manipulate that. Right. As you get older, I'll
give an example, I'm forty years old making new friends,
(14:22):
like you get new people in your life, and it's
really powerful when you meet someone that you respect and
you like and you can call a friend. But there
is something about like when you look back, I've known
this guy for thirty years, and that having that background
with the human being, and as you get older, maybe
you look at life differently, maybe you go down different
roads professionally. One guy's success. One guy doesn't whatever, But
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there's a bond that you have with that person that
you're probably just not going to have with many other people,
even as they come into your life as you age.
And I think that's evident when you watch this Ryder Cup.
I mean I really do. And I also think there's
a level of like if these guys can handle whatever
was being said to them on Friday and or Saturday
and Sunday, Like I don't see how if all things,
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like guys are just playing well, we don't get destroyed
in a couple of years. Their advantage is massive and
we just won't overcome, like we just all of a
sudden won't care, Like yeah, it's not about the money man.
And I'm not saying our guys don't care like being
out there. One thing I will never do again is
like I think the points list is fucking meaningless. Obviously,
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you're not just gonna take guys who are playing like crap,
like you want guys that are playing well but watching
that environment, Like justin Thomas, now he's not playing his
best golf right now, but he's very comfortable in that environment.
He's extremely comfortable in that environment, and you watch Colin
more COWI You're like, I don't know if he's that comfortable.
You watch Russell Henley, who's had an incredible season, like
(15:55):
you know, I don't know, I'm just not quite seeing it.
And then you watch the way like Fleetwood and Justin
Rose and Shane Lowry and Rory and he's to carry
themselves like they're just some dogs, you know. And I
just think moving forward, we gotta have like a dog checklist,
like you kind of gotta be ready for the heat.
And you can't just take oh, he's played well in
(16:16):
the Hunda Classic, he did really well in the the
at and T the Pro Corps Championship. No one that
compares to this zero percent, absolutely zero percent, and like
you need like Cam Young showed me like that guy's
a dog. I mean that guy is a Here's the
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thing with Bryson. He's different, right, but like that guy
lived for that week. You know, Justin Thomas has for
a long time. I'll even say this, like he needs
to play better, but Patrick can't lay if he's if
he's playing decently, is on my team and all these
other random guys like it's very, very difficult to just
bring some random guy and Europeans have not done that
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the last couple of times, and it's been massive advantage
them now clearly for whatever reason I can imagine. And
Keopka used to say this in one area, we got
screwed that they didn't like rom Hatton left and like
those guys kept kicking ass and taking names. We lost
DJ and Kepka to live and they're just like quit.
It's like kind of need the thoroughbreads. Like you know,
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when Morikawa became a star at the Ryder Cup at
Whistling Straits, you know his partner was Dustin Freakin Johnson,
an absolute thoroughbread and you're looking out there, like where
are thoroughbreads beside? Like Scottie Scheffler and the way Cam
Young was playing in Bryson's energy, they don't really exist.
You know. I think JJ Spond. I got no problem
with JJ Spond being on the team as like eleventh
(17:46):
or twelfth guy, and I know he qualified, but like
I said, the point thing like justin Rose, you want
that guy in the trenches with you, Like it's just
so evident and obvious, like this guy is just this
guy's made for this event. Why because he has twenty
five years of playing at an extremely high level against Tiger,
against Phil, against Dustin Johnson, against every fucking person that's
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played golf since the internet started, and you're looking, you're
like Russell Henley, a cute little story, supposed to be
a good putter, can't make a putt for to save
his life on this you know, in this tournament, doesn't
hit the ball very far. What's going on? And I
also think Keegan Bradley looking back, should have been on
the team a couple of years ago, because he's a
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good example that if he wasn't the captain. He's a
guy like JT, like Bryson that really cares and this
event means a lot to him and wants to be
in the fire. Now. He doesn't know if he's gonna
make the shot or miss the shot, but he wants
the ball in his hands. He's not gonna pass it.
And he was named the captain who's putting into a
precarious situation. I don't blame him at all for, you know,
(18:53):
for taking the role and then he was in a
tough situation ultimately punted on being on the team where
he clearly is better and like he did have enough
faith in a guy that he rolled out, which we
can debate whether Harris English and Colin Mori Cows should
have gone out a second time. Well, obviously not. If
Harris English is gonna be in the envelope, that tells
you exactly what you think of the guy, even though
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I would have put Colin Morricle in the envelope regardless. Like,
our team is all messed up, and I saw Jeff
Ogilvy today at the gym and I said, you know,
the one sad thing is like it felt like we panicked.
You know, we had some ideas of our teams and
then we played bad. It's like they didn't panic. He's like, honestly,
when you start losing, He's like, I've been to a
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lot of President's Cup. It's a natural reaction to start
flipping things. If the roles were reversed, they probably would
have done the same thing. So it's easy to go
while they found because they kept talking about this on
the broadcast. Is like Rory and Fleetwood. It's taken forever
to find Rory and awesome partner, and then you see
him playing with Fleetwood. It's like Scotty and Michael running
the Fast Break in nineteen ninety two and you're watching us,
(19:58):
We're like placing Scotty with like seven different guys. It's like,
what are we doing? We're putting can't lay with different
guys and Cam Young, we don't know, we don't have
any team cohesion. And the only group that like historically
we've had over the last I don't know how many
times is Speith and Thomas. Well, Speith played like crap
and is injured and his Mia and Xander and Cantley,
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but like we don't really have a partner for Scottie Scheffer.
Cam Young is new to the team. Guess what he's
on the team moving forward if he's playing well. And
you know JT's partner's missing. So we and we have
these new guys, we're not sure how to put them in.
We don't know if they're gonna be able to handle
the heat because it's pretty hot here in the kitchen
and it was all just out of whack and a
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lot of people are blaming you know, the one thing,
I just walked around because I'd never been there. So
when guys are on like whole four, five and six
and you're walking to you know, get to hold nine
and ten. You kind of walk through the course like
you go through fourteen, thirteen, twelve, and you can just
walk on a hole when no one's there. And the
rough I mean was legitimately short. Like now, the course
(21:03):
for a normal guy, you know, looked really long, like
really tough. I know these guys were unlimited birdies. I
do think the average like I'm like a five five handicap.
I don't know if I'm breaking eighty five right now.
Maybe who knows. Maybe the greens were much slower and
it would have been easier, but it looked outrageously long.
But one thing we've seen with these guys, if it
(21:23):
is soft and there's no rough, they will annihilate any
course in the world. And obviously the Europeans were playing
much better and they've been us over. But there's an
element of like the cohesion. This gets back to what
I said about friendship and partnerships. Imagine people, if you
play golf, like a guy that you play a lot
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of golf with, you have a pretty good chemistry with them,
right that you can go into a tournament a member
member or a member guest. If that's a guy that
you play with a lot of the year. If I
just put you with a random guy, even if you're
both similar players, who knows. And that's what kind of
felt that we were doing. It's not because these guys
were bad guys or playing that bad. It was we
(22:07):
just have no chemistry and the way our sport is built,
and they just do everything on their own. And I
remember Koepka's quotes. I think it was in Rome that
you know, just the Ryder Cup really throws off your routine,
and it feels like we complain a lot about that,
like your routine routine. I never hear the Europeans talking
(22:27):
about routine. It's like, okay, you get a shorter warm up, whatever,
we'll be ready. Okay, this is a little different than
we're used to. Okay, what do we gotta do? And
we're always bitching and moaning, and there's like a country
club vibe to our operation that there just isn't with
these guys, even though they're equally as rich. Honestly, their
crew now is probably like the group they just rolled
out is richer and our guys, but there is like
(22:50):
this I don't know, this this thing that's in their roots,
like in the way they grew up that they are
able to throw back to. Like, most of those dudes
from Europe did not grow up on a country club.
Most of those dudes from Europe were not playing sweet
courses until like sixteen seventeen years old, right, most of
(23:10):
those guys. It's just a much harder life in Europe
in terms of the wealth. Most of our guys grew
up our country clubs, grew up playing fucking pretty well.
And I just think there's like a grittiness in this
situation that we lacked that they had. You can say, oh,
well they made putts. Yeah, I don't know. I was there.
I saw it. I was like, I'm betting on those guys,
not on those guys. It was tangible being there, it
(23:33):
really was. And then when we didn't have anything to
play for, right, it was like, well, we're gonna get
our ass kicked anyway, let's just be loose and start
firing it pins we stormed back then. Obviously we got
some momentum and we're talented and we didn't quit. But
it's much easier. And this is another thing Oldgilvie said,
it's much easier to being underdog. And I'd argue for
(23:56):
anything in life. Right, it's easy to be the guy
chasing and to be motivated into wanting and they were
a massive underdog. No, you're not gonna win in New York.
We're not because Roy mclroy's going, I'm better in everyone here,
especially in this environment. I'm better than Scottie Scheffler. We
go who's our second best player? Bryson well Fleetwood's playing
(24:18):
way better than he is right now, who's the third
best player? Because I'll take John Rahm over them all.
Do they have a Justin Rose on this operation? Looking around? Nope?
You know, and it's like, yeah, Shane Lowry might not
be as good as some of their guys, but put
him with me, Roy McElroy, I'll bet your ass he is.
And that's just there's gonna be a lot of talk
(24:39):
about this and that, Like I do think that's a huge,
huge element, and I will look at this different moving forward.
Is when you pick the team, like, I'll pick a
guy that's twentieth on the points, right, if he's playing
decent and I know that he can handle it, And
I'd say Max Holme would be a guy who has
(25:00):
played well in crazy environments and you feel in tough environments. Now,
he can't be you know, the eightieth guy in the
world at the time, and you could argue world rankings,
but you know what I mean, he's got to be
playing better than he is now. But I would lean
to take those guys over just looking at the points.
Who gives a flying you know what about the points?
They are so irrelevant moving forward. Honestly, I don't know
(25:23):
exactly how you would do this. I would have zero
automatic qualifiers. I would pick the entire team from scratch. Clearly,
some of the guys that have high points are gonna
be auto picks, right. You would never pass on Skytie
Scheffler or but like Russell Handley's third, he's been awesome
on the PGA Tour. Is gonna translate? I don't know,
(25:44):
might not, because if I don't think it does, then
he's not coming. And that's what I would do, because
I just saw a team. It was like the big
dogs versus the buppies, and I think a huge element
was like, oh, this guy's playing well. You know May
and April and June on the PGA Tour. I've been
(26:05):
a PGA Tour tournaments, nothing like what I just witness
out there. Nothing. The just intensity of it all was
probably felt like Penn State at night or LSU at
night or Georgia Bama at night. It was just an intensity.
They're like, this is a different animal. And I'm obviously
guys screaming at the Euros, but even the intensity if
(26:26):
you're an American, like all these people looking at you,
you're wearing American you know, colors, everyone's wearing American colors.
It was it was intense, and I mean it's just
I think what makes the event so cool is like,
there's not that much happening at it, right. If you
go on Friday or Saturday, there are four different groups
(26:49):
twice the morning. In the afternoon, there's not that much
golf going on, right, And if you stick on whole
one and you watch them all go off, well it
ends after the last group, right, So if you sit
on whole sixteen or especially toward the end of the
golf course, there's a chance that people are getting dropped.
They do not make it to you. We were on
(27:11):
seventeen and we had kind of bobbed and weaved and
watched them. Two of the four groups did not make
it to us. They didn't make it to us, and
I think that's what makes the events so cool, and
no one even cares. It's just like kind of out
there drinking, partying, having a good time. But man, I
just it was really cool, really enjoyed, you know, just
(27:34):
the whole experience. I think I'm gonna I'm recording this
before the Monday night football games, but I'll probably go
on a rant about New York City blown away. I've
just as a Philly guy, I've always kind of naturally
talked shit because I've only been there a couple of times.
I was there a lot younger, and you know, I
spent multiple years, three years in Philly but living there
for two, and just the people I were around always
(27:56):
talks shit, so I just agreed to them. It's like, yeah,
New York sucks, and then you're there, you're like this,
and I expected it. Like San Francisco is a dump,
it's really dirty, so I expected that with New York City.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I kept I was blown away. It's like clean, Like
where are the crackheads? We're the homeless encampments, Like they
don't exist here in Manhattan. Like this place is, this
place is vibing. It's just an energy there. It's like
Vegas meets a big city, meets a lot of Irish
pubs and booze and now it's expensive, borderlineer ripoff. But
I did like the train, the Penn station across from MSG.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's just that the food court was like nights in
the food court where I stayed going to Fox Sports
one at the mall in Century City. It's like this,
this place is incredible. I might just eat dinner here.
So I had a really, really good time. I think
the Ryder Cup is a pretty special event, and it
would take me a lot to pay close attention to
something on you know, a late September Saturday and Sunday,
(28:51):
and I easily did. I didn't even think twice about it.
And it's just there's a palpable energy obviously when you're there,
but even when you're watching it on television, you're like this,
this feels really big and they feel it. And that's where,
you know, Kopka used to say this about the majors,
like I'm only competing against ten to twelve guys, And
(29:12):
what he's saying is most people here are gonna crumble
under the pressure. Well, if there are twenty four guys
in a Ryder Cup. It's it may be less of
a percentage because to make it here as much more difficult.
But there is something that like some of these guys
are gonna crumble under the weight and it's gonna be
too much, and they're gonna put too much pressure on themselves.
(29:32):
And that's what makes golf different than like in football.
You can try really hard if you're a defensive lineman
or a linebacker or an offensive guard. Right in basketball,
you can work your feet, play defense, just get into it.
In golf, the harder you try, sometimes the worst you play.
I think Kegan mentioned this, it's a weird sport that way,
so you kind of you got to be in this
weird like into it and focus but also kind of relaxed.
(29:56):
And I just don't think we've found our spot the
last couple of times, and we're changing our team dramatically
from two years to two years. And part of that
is on the players. I mean they're playing poorly, and
part of that is some of our legendary I mean,
Keptka won five majors and he won the waste management twice.
Think about that. Kepka's won five majors in the waste
management twice. What does that say about Brooks Koepka. He's
(30:18):
a bright lights guy. He's made for this event. You
can give me. I don't even know what his record is.
I know this if he's playing decently, this type event
where you feel pretty good. And I know he was
shitty last time in Rome. But my point is like,
like they need that personality. Well, he doesn't exist anymore
because he's not playing well at golf. DJ just kind
(30:38):
of waved a white flag just over it. DJ's a
good example, like he ain't gonna be that face by
this He's seen it all right, and those guys are
just gone. So it's like insert Harris English who he
seems like a nice guy, good player. They put him
in the envelope. If you get put in the envelope,
it's like should you even And I get you have
to put someone in the envelope, but I think that
(30:59):
tells you everything he needs. No, and Morikawa just can't
be on this team. Nobody wanted him on this team.
He wasn't trending to be on this team. And not
only was he put on this team, it felt like
Kegan believed in him more than all of us, which
is crazy because he's not playing well. He's just he
does not pass the eye test and clearly does not
(31:20):
pass the on the course test because he got his
ass kicked twice twice and at least Harris English got
put in the envelope. He's getting his butt kicked, Like,
I don't know, it's crazy, but yeah, man I it
was extremely fun to watch. I mean that that's stretch yesterday,
Cam Young coming down the stretch winning that match, justin
(31:42):
Thomas making that putt and Bryson d Chambeau coming storming
back in his match was as good of a couple
hour stretch as we've had. That was in Scottie versus Rory.
That that was really pretty sweet. We were, you know,
we were probably a Bryson putt away from having a
real real chance once he pushed his match. It was
(32:04):
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basically it could come down to Moricawa. We're like, oh,
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World Cup. Can you imagine if this wasn't during an
NFL Sunday and it was just on I don't know,
NFL preseason, the amount of people that would watch this.
I do think the calendars. I've always said this about baseball.
Shorten it and move it back. How are you competing
against the NFL in October? No one's gonna pay attention
(35:55):
unless it's Yankees and Dodgers Like you're in major trouble
that that was. I'm a I love this type stuff
any sport if it matters that much, and I watched,
But I'm afraid that a lot of people I think
that would have enjoyed it, would have watched or watching,
like Jackson Dart are watching the Eagles play Tampa Bay,
(36:17):
and I think you would cut through if this was
the last week of August, when the NFL is done,
even with the preseason, and it's basically the opening weekend
of college football. Win there's a couple games and that
would be my recommendation. But hopefully Brian rollapp gets more
involved and we can figure some stuff out. But overall,
(36:38):
props the Europeans incredible, incredible, dominant win. And while the
score looks close, let's be real. It was close for
about three hours on Sunday, but for two and a
half days it was an all time beatdown. I mean,
at one point time it looked like it was going
to be historic routing and we had pride became storn
(37:01):
back that the Bryson moments were really cool. Cam Young
hitting that put I mean being a New York guy
hitting that at best page where I think he won
an amateur event leading. You know, anytime that someone when
you weren't that big of trouble and you sent him
off first, shows you the respect that how well these
guys thought of him, and Keagan believed he was playing
and he answered the bell especially, you know, I mean,
(37:21):
the guys are beating you know, Rose Fleetwood Rory. It was.
It was not easy. So they did their part and
it was extremely entertaining, but I think I don't think
we're gonna win the next one. The volume
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