February 16, 2022 • 52 mins
John jumps from the gridiron to the links for his weekly PGA pod as the tour heads to Riviera and the Genesis Open. He discusses the huge Phoenix Open ratings, previews the Genesis, and rumors that Bryson DeChambeau could leave the PGA for the new Saudi tour. Then, it's the best Genesis Open bets with Action Network's Jason Sobel and answers listener mailbag questions.
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What is going on? Everybody go low pod back at
it again after Waste Management, I didn't even go and
I feel hungover. What a week for the p G
A Tour. I just looked it up on Sunday. The
waste management got three point five million people to watch.
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Uh And to put that into context, obviously football and
college football are in its own stratosphere. I'd argue the
two biggest brands in the NBA, which I think most
people widely consider the second biggest team sport uh, and
biggest sport got three point six million people Lakers Warriors
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Saturday Night. I know Mark Cuban loves to argue, He's like,
we're on cable now, this one was on ABC, SO
CBS Day Sunday, Verse Night Saturday, basically the same number.
Golf is a coming, my people. Golf is a coming.
I have some thoughts on the waste management, have some
thoughts on the no laying up guys say that Bryson D.
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Shambo has told people he will never play on the
PGA Tour again. He's going Sadi and then Riff. Uh
this weekend, very very excited. I've never played the course. Obviously,
it's one of the bigger tournaments of the year this year.
You know, ten for ten, the top ten in the
world all there. The field is absolutely stacked. Uh, even
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town of the former winners, guys like Adam Scott, Maxhoma
uh bubba. I mean, it's it's a really really good field,
Sam Burns. Last year almost one. I had Tony Fen
now actually, who's just absolutely in shambles. Who just used
to have to get Tony fen now like to one
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Now he costs fifty to one as to gamble on.
Kind of crazy and I do. I wouldn't bet on
him right now, he's he's not playing very well. And
then of course Jason Sobel of the Action Network played
at uh not played, I mean he does play, but
worked at ESPN for a long time. Now does PGA
Tour radio UH Monday through Wednesday, Links and locks on
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the Action Network podcast network. Uh. We love talking gambling
with him of a bunch of picks with him. JT.
I like a little action on Kepta. Taylor Gooch, that's
my favorite bet this week the top ten or top
five love Taylor Gooch Boyd. Summer Hayes is his coach. UH.
Boyd's brother used to be a member and my or
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I mean the the teaching pro my brother's club in Davis, California.
Elma Sero so big fan Summer Hayes. Boyd's a great
follow on Instagram. He's fenouse coach, Rom's coach. His son
is like an all star freshman golfer for Arizona State.
He'll be a pro. He actually just played in the
waste management UM so yeah. Small Little World lives at Scottsdale.
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rolling and build this bad boy up. Uh see how
big we can get it. Now the football is over.
I wanted to start with the waste management and talking
about those ratings. I truly believe and I followed ratings
very very closely since working in radio. It's different what
I knew do now. I mean, we value on how
many people listen. You know, whether fifty people listen, a
hundred thousand people listen TV. They don't actually know how
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many people are watching. They do this Nielsen. It's based
on how many meters. I mean, it's a it's an
educated guess. For the business I work in, we know
exactly how many people listen. You know, we do business
on YouTube. We know exactly how long you watch. For
the metrics in the in the internet world is very
very high level. But the television metrics, whether you believe
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them or not, that does value your product, and football
has separated from the pack. The NFL has always been huge,
but right now it's in a completely different stratosphere than
every other property in American television. It ain't even close.
But I think in college football, actually, while it's behind,
the NFL is way past basketball, Baseball, who's currently on strike, golf,
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all these other sports. It's there's there's a wide gap,
but I think the competition for number two is wide
freaking open. And what I witnessed at the Waste Management
and we've been witnessing it now for years, it's like
an SEC football game. That reminded me. That scene of
Harry Higgs and Joel Damon taking off their shirts and
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the beers flying, or when Sam Rider hit the hole
on one reminded me of when I was at cal
Poly on a day party on Friday or Saturday, just
getting absolutely shiphoused. And that looks fun. Now I don't necessarily,
I don't know if I want to be in the stands,
but it's fun to watch. It was something that was
kind of universally. Would any person would gravitate towards watching
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that whether you like golf or whether you don't like golf.
So if golf can find a way to continue to
have a couple events, and I asked Sobel about this
a little bit later like that. Now, obviously the waste
management is, you know, some parties are just better than
other parties. So I'm not expecting other golf tournaments to
equal that. But if they can find their niche on
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a hole, on a stretch of holes, on a party section,
it would go a long way to continue to quote
unquote grow the game of golf and make it cool. Now,
part of what makes the waste management fun is great
players play in the tournament, and great players consistently. I
mean the leaderboard, Zander Kepta Hedeki can't lay j T.
Even Scottie Scheffler is a Ryder Cup guy who won
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the tournament. So the top guys are gonna go there.
It's fun, It's it's just it's where you want to be.
It's a bright lights tournament. A lot of people are watching,
three point five million people on Sunday. So I I
do think golf and this is why I have she
love the sport. I think I told I was I
was kind of drunk, but I told Kevin Clark this
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when we were at UH at Cowards Volume Party. I'm like,
I kind of like golf more than football. Now. Part
of it is, you know, I make more money talking
about football, but I I haven't played football since high school.
I played golf like a week ago. I think about
my golf swing. I get to play the sport. When
I watched them play the waste management at TPC, I
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played that course last year during the World Day. I
was at drinks with a buddy on Saturday. I'm like,
the who I played the course with him? Like you
see the lines. These guys are taken and there we
didn't even play the tips. And that's the unique part
about this sport. So the more people that can dip
their foot in playing the sport, which is clearly grown
the last couple of years, the easier it is to
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watch these courses. And they play a lot of courses
like Riviera. Most people will never step up foot on Riviera.
But if you go to Scottsdale over the summer, you
can play two un bocks and play TV see. You
come to the Bay Area, you can play Harding Park.
You go to these places in these different states. You
can play some of these courses that they play. It's
it's like, why I can't go to Lambeau and play
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a flag football game. It's never gonna happen, you know.
But I can play. I can And if even if
I did, where am I gonna find twenty two people
to play? But I can easily take a buddy take hell.
I can go by myself. I did it last year
when I was real estate hunting in Scottsdale. I played
a single. I played gray Hawk. Why did I play
gray Hawk? Because I was watching it on TV the
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College Championships. I'm like, that course looks sweet, that course
looks fun. So I played it, and it's it's it's
the unique part about this game is that you get
to play it until really you can't walk anymore. I mean,
how many people you know at the club that you
play at, or you know a public course you go to,
their sixty eight year old guys out there hacking away,
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having fun, getting outside, getting some vitamin D. So if
the waste management, if other if other turn mints can
steal a little bit of that, because I think what
makes the Ryder Cups so special is it as vibes
of that and when you get that vibe, like one
thing we learned over the COVID shut down with no fans,
no fans and sports sucks. The bubble sucked, two thou twenty,
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NFL sucked. Do you know what was sweet? Bama l
s U with a packed house, forty Niners, Lambeau eighty
thou people, so Fi stadium, Niners ramps, the waste management.
Fans make sports and they literally pay for everything. Right
without them watching and consuming, there is no They are
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the business of everything. But that vibe is what truly
makes it special. So what's so cool about the Masters?
Even though everyone is on their best behavior, it's just
packed lined up on both sides of the fairway and
these enormous galleries, those views I'll never forget on whole twelve.
You know when Tiger when those guys hit in the
water and Tiger and everyone behind him like that is
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the visual you remember? Or Tiger and Charlie after he
wins at nineteen walking down that stretch to the clubhouse,
holding each other's hands, fist bumping down, just thousands of
people lined up outside the ropes. So I this week
is a lot different than that, even though it's still
pretty cool that visual coming up eighteen at Rivieria where
everyone's on the hill. Uh, even hole one where you
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hit down the hill. It's it's got some sweet visuals.
Look more of an old school course, more of course
that I I feel like I grew up playing like
the Sacramentary area with trees. Not like that nice, but
I just mean like that style. Um So I'm looking
forward to I'm definitely looking forward to this week and
I'll talk about I guess we can just talk about
that right now. Um. I love Taylor Goots this week
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the top ten. The crazy part about this golf tournament
is it was last year did a couple of days
after is Tiger Woods got in that car accident, you know,
and in Maxima an l a guy that you know,
cried winning one that almost blew the tournament. Last year
on whole eight team missed you know, like a three
or four foot putt to win it in regulation, but
then ended up kind of pulling it out of his
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ass against Tony because he was behind a tree on
the first hole, that short little part four hole ten. Uh.
But you know, really everything that the clouded the whole
week was Tiger A couple of weeks later. I mean,
at one point in time that morning, we thought Tiger
Woods might be dead, and then the information came out
that it could he ever walk again. We've come a
long way. He was able obviously to play with Charlie
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and that, you know, and the father son thing. But
all indications is I mean, this is Tiger's tournament. He's
gonna be there present the trophy. So that's cool. I
mean this this, this is just a star studdard event. Now.
I talked about this last week and I believe it's
still I can't bet on non Tiger Woods like John
Ram and Patrick can't lay to me or to the
two of the best. I mean they are to me.
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I mean I just I would want those guys have
money on him. But at nine to one and twelve
to one, I just don't love him. Justin Thomas, depending
on where you're looking, fourteen to one, DJ just hard
to tell how much he cares. But he's one here
before uh More cowan Or it feels like I haven't
seen them in a while. Xander was just playing pretty
well at the Waste Management. He just couldn't make a
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putt a deck he's been playing well. I don't think
you could ever go wrong right now. Betting on a
DECKI a decade is just on a heater, an absolute
heater actually kind of like a deckie. If you can
find him twenty five to one this week, Kepka to me,
I just do not understand it. He's clearly healthy. He
actually didn't play that well Sunday uh at waste management.
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But how many guys on the PGA tour would you
want money on? Would you want to be betting on
down the stretch of a big tournament? You talk about
a bright light sky. I talked about this on you know,
on the football podcast after um this, you know, during
the Super Bowl halftime, like Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg
have been so famous for almost thirty I mean Dr
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Dre's thirty five years n w A. Snoop came on
the scene. Like those guys are bright light guys. They
felt like NFL players when they were holding that. I
could just use them the entire halftime, just those two.
And I feel the same way about Keepka. Major's any
big tournament if he's coming in in good form, which
I think he is, right now, I I just I
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just believe in Keepka. I think his personality is perfect
in terms of he doesn't get too high, he doesn't
get too down. His just his talent is so elite. Uh,
he's as deep as anyone not named Bryson. His iron
game is as good as anybody. And there's a short
list of players that I feel as confident that's gonna
make a big put as Brooke Brooks Keepka. So I
think I just talk to myself in I like j
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T and I like Keepka as as the favorites this week.
The other story is the no laying up guys. Um
who you know? I don't If you don't know, they've
had a big podcast. You know, they kind of were
the first golf podcast I've ever listened to, uh and
still really the only golf podcast that I listened to today.
And uh, they do a great job. They have interviews.
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I mean, they've just they've been trailblazers in the space.
And I know Tron a little bit just through Twitter
DM back and forth with them. I'm I'm big fans.
They said something that really caught my attention. Now we've
been talking now for weeks about this Saudi League. It's coming.
The Saudis have an unlimited amount of money, and Phil
and Bryson and the DJs, like these guys, you know,
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might get bought for a hundred and fifty million dollars,
you know, So it's easy. I said it last week.
It's easy for everyone to get in. The Moral high
Horse is another thing. Now, Phil, I thought he's made
like seven eight hundred million dollars. You know, even DJs
made a couple hundred million. Bryson has made a lot.
But someone puts a hundred fifty million, million, two hundred million.
The numbers are all over the place. Who knows what's
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real and what's not. I saw Morikawa say today in
his press conference, like I don't even know what to believe.
He gotta ship on it. Like we just keep hearing things,
yet I have never seen one name. Well, we kind
of have seen some names. It starts with Phil Nicholson,
who I think we all believe is just gonna play
in the Saudi League. He's kind of done with the
PGA tour. He's piste off about the media rights. He's
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got all these crazy theories about how he's getting screwed
and maybe a little bit that he is because Thagala.
What we just witnessed a waste management. If the Saudi's
dream could be to buy all the top players, Thagala
would not exist. That would not be possible. So part
of I'm watching the waste management and seeing this guy
who a couple of years ago was at Pepperdine basically
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quit college because of COVID and just went pro, And
you're going, this wouldn't even what's one thing that's cool
about a golf tournament. He's going toe to toe with Brooks,
with Zander, with can't Ley, with Scheffler. Like that guy
would not even be an option in the Saudi League
because they would only have the top guys, the top
young guys in all the sweet old guys. A guy
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like Thagala would never be in their league unless you know,
over time he worked his way up and someone got
relegated and he took their spot, but it would take
him years. The only reason he was in the waste
management because he got some sponsors exemption. There there'd be
no Saudi sponsor exemption. So one thing these guys said
on their Sunday podcast is that Rison told people at
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the Saudi event two weeks ago that he's never coming
back to the PGA Tour, and I was like, damn,
I was listening to that thing and like, holy shit,
it's a pretty big thing to say. And Bryson has
come out adamantly denied it. His agent has come out
adamantly denied it. Say he has legitimately hurt, he's his
wrist is messed up, and they claim like the robber
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is gonna meet the road here he was supposed to
play this week, claims he's injured, He's not in this week.
He's the defending champ in a couple of weeks at
Arnold Palmer's tournament. Is he gonna show up? The players
isn't that far away? And if you remember last year,
he was leading the players until he like Duff that
shot and then hit it into the water. So I mean,
that's a pretty big money making time again, last I checked,
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the players is one of the biggest purses of the year.
And even if the Saudi League is happening, it's not
happening before the players. So it's gonna be hard for
Bryson to prove that his risk is legitimately hurt. But
I think we can all acknowledge there's enough smoke here
that there's some fire going on that I don't know
what to believe. I don't know what's gonna happen, but
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I do think that Phil Mickelson is done. If the
Saudi League happens, he will go. They also mentioned that
DJ was another guy that's gonna go. Now. It does
feel in a weird way like Phil and Brason, or
tied at the hip like Fils beliefs on the money,
which I somewhat understand. They're splitting money with guys like
Thagala who earns it. And that's the best part about
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golf because in the waste management, he's having this great year,
but they have to split the earnings. When you're really
watching for kept the Zanders, the Fills, the j t S,
the Brisons like they generate all the TV revenue, which
equals all the purse money, but they have to split
it with these randoms. She saw Charlie Hoffman, if you
follow this stuff on Instagram, was piste off about this ruling,
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which he's right on, and then created this whole controversy.
My only issue with Charlie Hoffman is, Charlie, you are
the waste management representative. They're your big sponsor. This is
their fucking tournament. You have. I hate it when athletes
don't realize where their bread is buttered. And that that
was a pretty clueless thing to do at his own
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sponsors tournament. If he did in another tournament, whatever, but
at the waste management It's why he came out strong
the next day in a in a garbage truck, you know,
trying to pooh pooh it. It's like, hey, he realized
what he was doing. Uh, but I don't know. I
do believe though, if Bryson, if it does come out
in a month, in two months, we just don't see
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him again. Now they're gonna be majors before this sidey
league would start. That'd be one of the craziest things
in the history of golf. Did this guy in quote
unquote the peak of his powers, who has kind of
transcended his sport because of the long drives and now
Biggie goot he became just kind of a sports figure
through the Internet and through his just kind of persona.
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If he just disappears and go to the side league
like that there, listen, that would be a major loss
for the PGA. Tour. If Bryson d Chambo just stops
playing in their events, like it's lost this week, it
would be a huge loss at bay Hill, it would
be a loss at the Players, it would be a
loss in these majors. Like it's a big deal when
Bryson is on television. Remember a couple of years ago
when he gained all the the Artage, It's like, what's
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he gonna do with Augusta. I'd argue he was the
biggest story that first year when he had gained all
the yard it's going into Augusta and then he was terrible.
But every single year if he's hitting it really far,
like he's a massive story going. He won the US
Open two years ago. So it's just something to keep
an eye on. I'm fascinated by it. I I definitely
do not think it's not plausible. I do wonder if
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there are people in Bryson's camp that are trying to
talk him out of this, Like I would imagine on
and off the course, Bryson's making thirty forty million dollars
a year. Now, there's a big difference between a hundred
and fifty a year and forty million dollars a year.
But there's also a level of you know what you're getting.
You don't have to deal with some foreign government that
fucking could kill you. Uh, you don't have to travel
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the world really if you don't want to. I do
think it's a pretty big risk for a guy like
that who is in his money making prime. I mean
ten years ago, Phil, remember when Tiger was in his
peak making seventy million dollars a year and the number
two three athlete always was like an NBA player, and
Phil Mickelson making forty five That was a decade ago. Now,
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factor inflation, money is even less valuable, so they're paying
you more. I mean, I think Bryson could wrap up
some serious cash. It's a pretty risky move. But if
he has it in his mind that, you know, I
can't monetize YouTube because the tour won't let me take
a camera around Like that's just that to me feels
a little shortsighted. Uh, it really does. Now, I'm I'm
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also biased. I don't want to lose Bryson. I enjoy
Bryson d Shambo on the PGA tour, and definitely I
think the PGA Tour enjoys him too, So maybe this
is all huge leverage play, but there are certain rules
with the way the tour is set up, you know
through you know it's called like a five O one,
seven C or I think I've probably screwed up those numbers.
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But in terms of their charitable donations and their tax
breaks that I don't think they can dramatically change and
start paying players like ultimately, a guy like Bryson wants
to get So it's it's gonna be a fascinating staring contest.
And I do think Jamnahan and the people that run
the tour are just their hands are kind of tied here.
So I think Bryson right now, moving forward until he
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comes back or if he does come back, has got
to be one of the biggest stories in golf. Okay,
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man Jason Sobell, who I'm not sure if have you
recovered yet from uh, the mayhem that is the waste management?
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You're looking good, Yeah, I've recovered. I left before the
weekend started. I left on Saturday morning from Scottsdale, so
I was able to, uh, I avoid or you know,
tragically miss all the festivities that went on over the weekend.
But it was definitely fun to watch. I heard Colt
and Sleeve say that there is uh, you know, they
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the attendants obviously they they're not like put it in
stone with the number is. But everyone's pretty confident in
the shattered records that this weekend is that as a
fair to say, it sure seemed like it. Uh. The
attendance numbers are not exactly uh Let's put it this way.
They're not exactly scanning tickets when you go through and
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doing the attendance that way. They used to count cars
and say that there's an average of x amount per car,
so like two point four people per car and figure
it out that way. I think they've gotten more advanced
with that. I didn't see the final attendance numbers. I
can tell you this, John, though, if if they did
set an attendance mark this year, next year with the
Super Bowl in town, they're just gonna bash it. They're
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just gonna double it. I mean, it's gonna be ridiculous
Before we get into this week, you know, it's it's hard.
I'm probably more of a prisoner of the moment this
this tournament feels. I mean, there's nothing quite like it.
And I know there's been a lot of talk, is
how can you make you can do this every week
but just have several of these a year? Is it impossible?
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I mean, you have You've been around this game for
so long and all these different tournaments all over the country.
Is it truly just a one off kind of like
the Ryder Cup, where you can't you know, manipulate that
environment anywhere else. Is it just part of the deal
that Scottsdale brings the table that other places just won't,
or could the tour do a better job of having
a rowdy atmosphere some other tournaments. I'm surprised other tournaments
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haven't tried to copycat what they do in Phoenix, at
least on one hole, at least have one party hole. Uh.
The Nelson has done it a little bit in the past.
Hartford's kind of tried it a little bit. Doesn't quite
translate to those places, but that's probably okay. I think
the players by and large are okay with it one whole,
one week out of the year. If you try to say, hey,
let's do this twenty times a year, I think it's
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gonna be a really bad look for everybody. And it's
just it's going to get a little bit out of hand.
But they know what to expect when they get the
TV's scotts Dale. They understand it. It's a party. We
saw beers being thrown from the stands. We saw uh
players taking their shirts off. I mean, it has to
be in the right frame of what you're trying to do.
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You take your shirts off on the third fairway at Colonial,
it doesn't really make sense for a player you start
throwing beers onto the fourteenth green at Quail Hollow, It's like,
that's not really the way we do this. But for
that one week a year in Phoenix, yeah, it works
and it's fun and it's cool. And the one biggest
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difference I think John in the what fifteen years and
I've been covering that event and I've probably been there
ten twelve times over that span, is that the PGA
Tour has embraced it more than in the past. I
think ten years ago, twelve years ago, fifteen years ago. Okay,
it was still a party back then, but it was
the PGA Tour didn't want to glorify it. They didn't
want to show it off. They didn't want to get
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everybody excited about just the party. It was more still
about the golf to them. If watched last uh, this
past weekend PGA Twour not only on TV but with
the right soldiers, but all over social media, they are
promoting the fact that this is indeed the biggest party
in golf in I know for a fact that there
are folks in ponto Vedra Beach offices on Monday morning, Uh,
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smiling about all the social media impressions that they got
this past weekend with everything. So it's definitely changed in
that respect. Phil Phil would tell you in the Saudi League,
Joel Damon might be able to n f t that
that visual of him, you know, wrath in the college. Sure,
but let's let's stick to golf, and this is clearly
a little more of a throwback PGA golf tournament. You know,
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it's pretty crazy. The story of this tournament last year,
despite Maxima having incredible win, was really the Tiger incident
a couple of days later, right, I mean, that's the
kind of the memorable moment. I saw a headline to
day that Tiger is gonna be there, So that's pretty cool. Uh.
You know, let's just start with some guys that that
you like, that you're excited about, and then I'll get
in because last year I had a Tony Fenel take
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it and it was pretty devastating, you know, an extras one.
Max was behind the tree, but I was kind of
lucky to be there. Max missed that you know what
two three ft on on eighteen, so uh, but you
just started sniffing the money and then uh he made
that incredible pitch shot and the rest is history. Who
do you like coming in this weekend? At RIV So
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it's more about who I don't like, and it's almost nobody.
I do a preview every week for the Action Network
where I have different categories my favorite, outright favorite, top five,
top ten, favorite dfs, play all these different categories. At
the end, I give my big fade. It's the one
guy with a short number who I don't like that week.
I don't think he's going to win. I don't think
he can win. And this week I really struggled with it.
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I got down to about forty to one before I
found someone that said, okay, I really you know, I'll
fade him. I don't really like him because of the
top ten in the world, who were all there? Of
the guys just below the top ten, the Brooks kept
because in the Jordan's Speeds, I look at every single
one of them and yeah, okay, there might be some
cons there, but there are a whole lot of pros
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as well, And I think you can look at those
players and say, yeah, there's a lot of reason for
me to like them this week. And so you look
at the top of the list and you try to
separate them. Patrick Cantley is the guy at the top
that I like the best. If you want to sit
here and tell me, I like John Rom, I like
Justin Thomas, I like Colin Morrikaw, I like Rory McElroy,
Dustin Johnson. All of those are really good choices. They're
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really good players. They have short odds for a reason.
Patrick Cantley, to me, has been playing some of the
best golf of his life, and I still think he
hasn't quite played his best. I don't think he's reached
that peak. I feel like over the last few weeks.
UM last week is a great example where uh, the
putter was red hot for three days, the ball striking
wasn't quite there, and then the ball striking caught up
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on Sunday in the final round, and the putter got
a little bit cold. When everything is fire on all cylinders,
Patrick Cantley is going to win one of these. This
one makes the most sense in his hometown of Los
Angeles on a ball strikers golf course. He does everything well.
Should be rewarded this week. But again, there aren't a
whole lot of guys at the top of that list
where I look at. Really, there's almost nobody at the
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top of the list of where I look at and
say no, absolutely not, don't take him. Yeah, I know
you like j T last week and you know, I
think it was a Friday, had a weird day, but
then over the weekend he was pretty dialed, and you know,
if he just had started a little faster, he might
have won the tournament. I kind of like him this
week fourteen to one, he finished second. Just looking back
at some of his previous history here in two thousand nineteen.
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Uh so, I mean he's played well at this golf
course before, and you know, Candily right, he's played Now
there's gonna be a stard week in a row. J
T took that week off hanging out with his fiance
up and down the coast to California. So I don't
know how much you factor that in the rest. But
what about Brooks, I mean, he's coming off a pretty
good week his odds to me for a guy that
has accomplished like all these guys in the in the
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twelve to fourteen to one, he's accomplished everything they have,
definitely in terms of majors, if not more than some
of these guys, yet he's almost double their hots the
last couple of weeks. Yeah, let me start with JT
because I want to uh, I want to make a
point on j T, which is yeah, I was on
him last week. The putting has not been great. If
he can figure out the putter, he can start winning tournaments.
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And I'm not sure that riv is the place to
figure out a putter putting on those poland of greens,
but honestly, it neutralizes everybody. The good putters are gonna
miss potts, the bad putters are gonna miss putts. So
maybe this is a good week for JT to turn
it all around. I do think that at some point
he's just gonna go out and obliterated field. I mean,
I don't think he wins by one. When he wins.
I think he wins by eight. The next time he
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just figures it all out and play as well. So
it could certainly happen this week again. I mean, I'm
repeating myself here, but I like JT. Like all the
guys at the top, he's certainly capable of beating this field.
I believe it was three years ago, like you mentioned,
he finished runner up, but he lost a five shot
fifty four whole lead to JB. Homes shot in that
final round, and so um, maybe a little a few
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demons still gnawing at him a little bit. Also lost
back in the two thousand eleven n ci A Team
Championship to a guy named Jordan's Speed who tends to
remind him of it every single time they get to
rivieris so vibe that's eating at him just a little
bit there as well as far as Kepta, Yeah, you're right,
it's a big number on Kepta this week. He's obviously
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starting to play better golf. Going into last week, I
didn't like him just for the fact that it had
been months, I mean like a long time, dating back
to before uh last season had ended. The last time
we'd seen Brooks Kepta playing some solid golf. He had
missed a few cuts. He'd finished UH below the midway
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point in a few shorter fields where everyone had made
the cut. So you look at kept going and saying, okay,
well he played well this past week. Now, I know
there's the narrative of if it's not a major championship,
Brooks doesn't show up. Brooks doesn't care that much. Speaking
with Brooks, a little bit last week in a press conference,
it seems like he's pretty dialed in. He was asked
about do you think do you think they're in nineteen
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your rank in the world. Do you think they're nineteen
players in the world right now? We're better than you?
Of course not. That's embarrassing. So I can't believe, you know,
granted it's injuries and other things, but I can't believe
I'm twentieth in the world. That needs to change soon.
And so he does seem motivated inspired right now to
go out and play some good golf. And in a
field where he's got those ten guys, the top ten
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in the world all in front of him, who are
playing this week. I think it would be a good
place to look at Brooks trying to be a little
giant killer this week. I'd also say win or lose,
he keeps playing good golf, wouldn't you say? The players
and the masters, He's a guy to keep an eye
on if his odds remain and definitely in to one
and above, there's no doubt. I mean love him for
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the big events moving forward. The only little issue with
Brooks is that he tends to talk you into wanting
to play him like I said, you know he was
you know, I said, he's embarrassed about being twenties in
the world and has to change. I'm gonna play good guy.
You'r you haven't seen the best of Brooks yet. You
know I'm gonna turn it on. He says everything right,
So it's a better You have to look at it
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and say, all right, does he really mean it? Is
he really about to turn things on? Does he just
think he's gonna turn it on and think he's gonna
play good golf? Or is it all just a little
bluster and bravado. So I think we have to sort
of separate that and interpret that. But I do think
it's going to be a good year for Brooks. Okay,
let's talk about long shots. You brought up a name
before we hopped on here in Francisco, Molinari, who was
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a member there. I wrote down a couple in Alex Norn,
who was in the mix last week and who's played
good golf. I've been on him several times over the
last couple of years. I like him a lot. And
Leashman is a name that I've kind of seen out there. Uh,
start with Molinari and then tell me with your thoughts
on Norn and Leashman. Yes, Mollinari is probably the biggest
public play this week. Everyone's gonna be on him, and
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everyone loves the narrative of Hey, he's playing his own
course where he moved out to l A a a couple
of years ago and joined Rivieria, and so it's perfect
for him. That that doesn't always work that well. Uh.
You know, I've spoken over the years to so many
players about playing your hometown event, playing in your backyard,
sleeping in your own bed. It sounds great until you're
going to leave the house in the morning and the
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wife said, well, can you drop off the kids at school?
And no, by the way, take out the trash and
if you get empty the dishwasher and oh, here comes
the neighbors. They you know, you've never met him before.
They live across the street and down three houses, but
you know they're really big fans and they'd love to
have some tickets this week. And all of a sudden,
you're dealing with all these outside entities that you necessarily
don't deal with on the road. That said my podcast
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partner at The Action Network, Ben Everel, who works for
the PGA Tour. Told me he was out at rid
of a couple of weeks ago, and one of the
caddies said, I would put my mortgage on Francesco Mallin
already had finish in the top ten this coming week,
and he has ten to one for eight top ten finish,
so I I really like that he was eighth at
this event last year, has more experience on the course
than he did at that point, also playing some good
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golf as far as the other guys, Nor and I
really like, Yeah, coming off a good week, it's it's
almost like I just don't want to catch him on
that kind of downslide a little bit. You're you're hoping
that it's a little two week peek for Alex Norman.
I'm trying to im I know, I get it, I
get it, and I try that all the time. You're
hoping he's still kind of trending upwards. But really good
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ball striker who putted really well last week. So that's
a really good sign for Norn and Leishman is a
guy that a lot of people are on this week.
I'm waiting to see what the conditions are like. It's
been hot and dry in l A. Over the last
a few weeks, it's supposed to get I've seen varying reports.
Some have said rain for the first day or two,
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and some have said, you know, the rain is passed
and it's not going to hit Los Angeles. Well if
it does. I don't like Leishman as much. Leishman I
I always tend to uh to tend to play him,
tend to like him at events where it's fast and firm,
firstly and secondly where there's some wind blowing. I just
think he's a good low ball player, puts his mid
and long irons really well, good around the green, so
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that all of that could correlate to this golf course.
Is I want to see the conditions a little bit
more before I jump in on Leashman. Okay, last name
I know this guy is a favorite of a lot
of people like you that are close to the toy.
Is a really good player is Taylor Gooch who last
year finished twelfth, two years ago finished top ten. I mean,
if you want to get ball, don't know about his
win equity, but tend to one to top five and
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about you know, almost five to one or yeah, ten
to one to top five and almost four and a
half to one to top ten. Uh, what do you
think about that play? Yeah, I really like Taylor Gooch
this week. The one thing we usually look out in
regard to Gooch is his ball striking. Is one of
the game's better iron players, I think, at least outside
of those top ten type players. And so, um, you've
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got the ball striking, but he's also sixth on the
PGA Tour and strokes gained around the greens, and guys
are going to miss greens this year. This week it
just happens at Riviera. They're smaller greens, an old style.
Of course, you're just not gonna hit eighteen of eighteen
every day and just have to turn it into a
putting contest, and so you're gonna have to get up
and down. Taylor Gooch one of the better ones that
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not only ball striking but getting up and down from
around the greens. That's a really nice combination for this week.
So I do agree with you. I like Gucci a
lot this week. And before I get you out of here,
I think we mentioned this guy last week, but like
I said, I mean I bet on this guy last
year to win, and this guy's numbers were consistently twenty
two one, two to one. I think he's fifty what's
up with Tony Fenelle? I mean, this is what's going
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on with the guy? I don't know. I was very
bullish on Feene coming into the year, and I thought
it would be a really good one for him. I
still think it can be a really good one for him.
And I do think that at some point we're gonna
want to jump on Tony Fenelle when he's fifty two
one and he's gonna win something else and we're gonna
be uh get a nice payoff on that on that
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female ticket. I just I don't think it's coming this week.
I haven't seen really any signs in his game that
show he's about to play some really good golf. Remember Phoenix,
the place where he's played well in the past as well.
I believe Uh lost in the playoff to Web Simpson
two years ago, and so you looked at it last
week and said he's played well here, it could be
a good week, and he wound up missing the cut.
So until we see a little bit more form from Tony,
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I'm gonna stay away. But yeah, you're right, that fifty
two one number is a big number, and that sounds
pretty juicy. Okay, one more quick thing. I I talked
about this on the podcast. Do you expect to see
Bryson d Shambo on the PGA Tour again? I don't know.
And sometimes you say something on a podcast and all
of a sudden everyone reports it as fact and uh,
(39:36):
and you're breaking a news story. So I'm gonna ride
the fence a little bit on this one. I do
think that whether there's smoke, there's fire, and we've seen
and heard Bryson is speaking with the upcoming Saudi Golf
League about joining their thing. The one thing that surprised
me about for those who don't know, the news is
out that, uh, there's sort of a semi report I'll
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call it that Bryson was not to play the PGA
Tour anymore and was gonna join the Saudi Golf League.
And then Bryson's agent came out, as reported by Ryan
Lavner of Golf Channel, saying now we're hoping to play
bay Hill in a couple of weeks. He's just not
healthy right now, but when the wrist heals up, hoping
to be out to defend that title at the Arnold
Palmer Invitational, and so whatever the case might be in
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the short term, the long term is, Yes, this Saudi
Golf League is happening. I was told by a player
recently that it's happening over the next few months and
they're gonna play events, many of which will be based
in the United States. And yes, some big name players
will be playing in this league. And I don't know
if it means they'll never again play on the PGA Tour.
They can play select events on the PGA Tour certainly
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shouldn't affect their status for major championships. But the dynamic
of golf is going to change a little bit if
some of these big name players aren't playing on weekly
uh in weekly events on the PGA Tour. And I
do believe that's gonna happen sooner rather than later. Maybe
the next four to five months, I would say, is
the time frame for all of us to develop. And UH,
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we shouldn't be surprised by it. We've been talking about
this for over a year now, talking about how they're
trying to infiltrate what has long been standing as uh,
the dynamic in golf as far as the the tours
and the circuits the top the world's tours right now,
and so it's going to happen. As far as which players,
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I I'm guessing that based on what we know, based
on reports, we can at least take a very solid
guestimation one year old Lefty. There you go. Um, the guys,
I will tell you this much. Guys who have talked
about growing the game around the world, Guys who have
complained about not getting paid for their media rights, and
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guys who have somehow taking drops they didn't like and
didn't like a ruling and didn't like a set up
and said, hey, maybe I'll go play somewhere else. I
would start your list with those players, and they might
be ones who will be playing in the SNUNTI Golf
League at some point. Well, Jason, I appreciate your time,
and uh, let's enjoy Rivieria this week and I'll talk
to you. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks, John, I
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appreciate it. And yeah, this it's so different. Mean, we
started out this conversation talking about the w M Phoenix
Open at TPC Scottsdale last week and what a party
it is. Talking about the Genesis Invitational this week at
Rivieria two completely different events, completely different golf courses. I
love both of them, maybe equally. And like I've been
saying all week, you can have two children who are
(42:29):
very different from each other. It doesn't say you don't say, well,
I like that one a lot, and I don't really
like that one as much. You say, uh, they're they're
completely opposites. They're totally different from each other, and I
love both of them. So it's uh, it's a good
thing about the PGA Tour that we are able to
get such a varied, uh very templative events from a
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weekly basis. Well, Jason so will Monday through Wednesday, PGA
Tour Radio two to four Eastern and Links and Locks
on the Action Network Podcast network. Appreciate your time, and um,
let's enjoy some golf. Absolutely, thanks thanks Jason. Okay, let's
get to the let's get to the mail bag. You
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go to the Instagram Go low pod. You know how
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Fire up in those d m s and we'll go
from there. Justin huge fan alright, got a question about
doubling down and live betting a tournament. Each week, I
picked three or four players to win and continuously look
at their live odds throughout the weekend. Two weeks ago
(43:33):
at Pebble, I had can't least seven to one and
spee as the weekend turn, I live bet Jordan and
can't lay again on Saturday and Sunday, only for Tom
freaking Hogi to ruin my chances. Same scenario this past week.
Scottie Scheffler was one of them. I bet him live
Sunday with terrible odds plus done eighty one. After the
(43:53):
second hall, I looked after a bogey seven eight to
fall to the board plus eight fifty, but was too
scared of getting was like I did at Pebble. What
should my strategy be when I have one of the
three or four guys in contention on Saturday Sunday, keep
the original best or reinvest worst odds or try to
hedge with another player. Golf is basically impossible to hedge
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because at any moment, some random guy can take you out,
like Tom Hog right, so you you can't hedge. You
don't have an unless you bet on literally every guy
in the mix, which you're not gonna do, and you
would lose money with that strategy. I like your strategy.
I might try that this week. I might pick four
guys to win and then I bet some of them.
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I'm gonna go Justin, Thomas Kepta, Taylor Gooch, and I'll
pick one other guy, Alex Norn, and I'm just gonna
live bet him that that's That's not a terrible idea.
Maybe the idea is the top five your guy. Bet
your guy at the top five, so then if he's
in the mix. Maybe maybe that's the strategy. Pick the
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guys you like and bet them to top five, and
then if you like them, if they're in the mix
Saturday Sunday, then bet them to win. I'm just I'm
just thinking out loud here, But that's maybe what I do.
That gives you a little more wiggle room, right because
if you had can't laid top five and then you
bet them to win, you know you still would have
made some money. Again, could be wrong on that one.
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I'm mom Xander in the waste management. What do you
think the score to win given the first three days
of play? Yeah, man, I had him too. I had
Xander before the week. I put a little money on
them live and same with Alex Norn. But man, it
just you know, betting in golf is hard. It is
an incredible rush when you win, but there are just
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so many, you know, Scottie Scheffler, who it couldn't feel
like Scotty Scheffler is gonna win. At any moment, it
felt like it was gonna be Kepta Xander can't Lay
or Thigala and then when the dust settles, Scottie Scheffler
is in the playoff. But that that's what makes gambling
on golf fund. I mean, part of it is the returns,
the r o or unlike any other sport. Besides like
(46:02):
future bets. Right, if I want to bet, you know,
the fucking Packers to win the Super Bowl at one,
I know that that wouldn't be their number if Aaron
was there, to be smaller, if Aaron left, to be
like fifty to one. But you know what I'm saying,
I gotta wait five months. With golf, you're just waiting
a couple of days. But it's pretty easy to lose.
I'm planning to go to Riviera next week and I've
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never been to a PGA event. Do you recommend that
I wander the course, follow a group of golfers, or
enjoy the event by sitting at a specific green. I've
done a little bit of everything having been to golf tournaments,
I would say the first golf if you've never been
to a golf tournament, I would just roam around the
first golf tournament I ever went to, or nine whatever,
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the US Open at Olympic Club when Lee Jansen won
and first Payne Stewart, uh and I just walked everywhere.
If you've never been to the course, like I would
watch walk the course and then if you feel a
little tired, get a beer, a hot dog, get a burger,
and just pull up at one of the holes. Maybe
a Part three, maybe a cool part five, um, you know,
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after you get a lay of the land. Now, if
you have money on someone, I've never gone to a
golf tournament and bet on someone, that would be pretty
cool to do. Like if I was gonna bet on
Taylor Gooch, which and I was going to Riviera, I
would follow Taylor Gooch because like if you're betting on
Justin Thomas or DJ or Rory, it's it's not Tiger,
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but it is harder to follow the top guys just
because the crowds are massive. So that my strategy you know,
if I go to Pebble, I go right to like
whole six or all the alcoholis. If I go to Olympic,
I'd probably walk around. Uh. If I went to Riviera,
because I've never been to the course, I would walk around.
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I might hang out a whole one, watch some guys
hit some t shots, and then just kind of work
my way throughout the course. How do you feel about
Patrick Cantley's Master future to one right now? I mean,
you'd say him and John rom are the two best
players in the world right now. Can't Ley is a
fucking machine. The Masters this year is going to be
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a fantastic Jordan's speed is eleven to one. Jesus can't lay. Yeah,
I got him about twenty to one. So yeah, I mean,
I I don't think it's crazy at all. I don't
really enjoy betting on Patrick can't Ley. Not that I
don't think he's a great guy, but holy sh it,
does he take a long time to put hurry up
and hit the golf ball. Why are you standing over
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the golf ball for so long? What are you doing?
Just hit the ball, like you look at the line.
You've seen both sides. He stands over the ball. Someone
tweeted this out over the weekend for twenty five seconds
standing over the golf ball to put. He is so slow.
I don't love betting on him. Love the pod have
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two part questions. I'm from Sack area, and I was wondering,
what is your favorite course up this way to play? Uh? Well,
I grew up playing Elma Sero and Wild Horse and
Davis more than playing in Sack. Rancho Marietta. Um. I
honestly I haven't played Sack golf and so long since
like junior high and high school, I'd say Rancho Marietta.
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I would say that's probably that's the last Sacramento course
I've played in like the last decade. I honestly don't
play that much Sack. I played way more golf in
the valley, in the Fresno area and then obviously here
in the Bay area than Sack. But Yochadishi, which is
actually kind of toward Napa, It to me is one
(49:38):
of the best public courses in northern California. It's on
the Indian Casino. It's fantastic. He used to be like
sixty seventy dollars to play. COVID inflation and I think
it's now like a hundred fifty, but it's it's it's
pretty sweet. I recommend that to anybody who's up in
the northern California area. And rookie Austin Smotherman is from
sack I was wondering, after finishing top ten at Tory,
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finishing t thirty three at Pebble, do you even think
he'd get his first win this year? I think it's very,
very difficult to win on tour. The fields have never
been deeper, the players have never been more talented. Like
think about the guys that have won recently. Scottie Scheffler
was on the Ryder Cup and has been basically top
ten in every single major. I think we had to
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beat can't Ley, Xander brooks Adki won a couple of
weeks ago. HOGI won at Pebble and he's been in
the mix now for a couple of years. He's been
playing at a really high level. And think who he
had to beat, Jordan Cantley. So it's just this week.
Look at the field, I mean, it's going to be
very very difficult for random guys who haven't been on
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the tour that long. Rookie players, young guys to win
huge tournaments. Now, could he win a John Deer Classic,
Could he win a Barracuda? Could he win a Safe
Way Open? For sure? I mean, anyone who's in that
you know, has a chance to win. But I think
any you know, Tory Pines, a pebble beach, a Riviera,
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I'm not even sure is he in this tournament. Uh
it's just very, very hard to just beat all these guys.
I mean, it's just just such loaded fields. Uh yeah,
So again, subscribe to the gol Pot. Gol Pot, ask
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it again after Waste Management, I didn't even go and
I feel hungover. What a week for the p G
A Tour. I just looked it up on Sunday. The
waste management got three point five million people to watch.
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Uh And to put that into context, obviously football and
college football are in its own stratosphere. I'd argue the
two biggest brands in the NBA, which I think most
people widely consider the second biggest team sport uh, and
biggest sport got three point six million people Lakers Warriors
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Saturday Night. I know Mark Cuban loves to argue, He's like,
we're on cable now, this one was on ABC, SO
CBS Day Sunday, Verse Night Saturday, basically the same number.
Golf is a coming, my people. Golf is a coming.
I have some thoughts on the waste management, have some
thoughts on the no laying up guys say that Bryson D.
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Shambo has told people he will never play on the
PGA Tour again. He's going Sadi and then Riff. Uh
this weekend, very very excited. I've never played the course. Obviously,
it's one of the bigger tournaments of the year this year.
You know, ten for ten, the top ten in the
world all there. The field is absolutely stacked. Uh, even
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town of the former winners, guys like Adam Scott, Maxhoma
uh bubba. I mean, it's it's a really really good field,
Sam Burns. Last year almost one. I had Tony Fen
now actually, who's just absolutely in shambles. Who just used
to have to get Tony fen now like to one
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Now he costs fifty to one as to gamble on.
Kind of crazy and I do. I wouldn't bet on
him right now, he's he's not playing very well. And
then of course Jason Sobel of the Action Network played
at uh not played, I mean he does play, but
worked at ESPN for a long time. Now does PGA
Tour radio UH Monday through Wednesday, Links and locks on
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the Action Network podcast network. Uh. We love talking gambling
with him of a bunch of picks with him. JT.
I like a little action on Kepta. Taylor Gooch, that's
my favorite bet this week the top ten or top
five love Taylor Gooch Boyd. Summer Hayes is his coach. UH.
Boyd's brother used to be a member and my or
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I mean the the teaching pro my brother's club in Davis, California.
Elma Sero so big fan Summer Hayes. Boyd's a great
follow on Instagram. He's fenouse coach, Rom's coach. His son
is like an all star freshman golfer for Arizona State.
He'll be a pro. He actually just played in the
waste management UM so yeah. Small Little World lives at Scottsdale.
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Also go low Pod is the Instagram. If you want
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fired up. It looks sweet prop store logo. Guy here
at the volume badass and we'll just keep rocking and
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rolling and build this bad boy up. Uh see how
big we can get it. Now the football is over.
I wanted to start with the waste management and talking
about those ratings. I truly believe and I followed ratings
very very closely since working in radio. It's different what
I knew do now. I mean, we value on how
many people listen. You know, whether fifty people listen, a
hundred thousand people listen TV. They don't actually know how
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many people are watching. They do this Nielsen. It's based
on how many meters. I mean, it's a it's an
educated guess. For the business I work in, we know
exactly how many people listen. You know, we do business
on YouTube. We know exactly how long you watch. For
the metrics in the in the internet world is very
very high level. But the television metrics, whether you believe
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them or not, that does value your product, and football
has separated from the pack. The NFL has always been huge,
but right now it's in a completely different stratosphere than
every other property in American television. It ain't even close.
But I think in college football, actually, while it's behind,
the NFL is way past basketball, Baseball, who's currently on strike, golf,
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all these other sports. It's there's there's a wide gap,
but I think the competition for number two is wide
freaking open. And what I witnessed at the Waste Management
and we've been witnessing it now for years, it's like
an SEC football game. That reminded me. That scene of
Harry Higgs and Joel Damon taking off their shirts and
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the beers flying, or when Sam Rider hit the hole
on one reminded me of when I was at cal
Poly on a day party on Friday or Saturday, just
getting absolutely shiphoused. And that looks fun. Now I don't necessarily,
I don't know if I want to be in the stands,
but it's fun to watch. It was something that was
kind of universally. Would any person would gravitate towards watching
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that whether you like golf or whether you don't like golf.
So if golf can find a way to continue to
have a couple events, and I asked Sobel about this
a little bit later like that. Now, obviously the waste
management is, you know, some parties are just better than
other parties. So I'm not expecting other golf tournaments to
equal that. But if they can find their niche on
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a hole, on a stretch of holes, on a party section,
it would go a long way to continue to quote
unquote grow the game of golf and make it cool. Now,
part of what makes the waste management fun is great
players play in the tournament, and great players consistently. I
mean the leaderboard, Zander Kepta Hedeki can't lay j T.
Even Scottie Scheffler is a Ryder Cup guy who won
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the tournament. So the top guys are gonna go there.
It's fun, It's it's just it's where you want to be.
It's a bright lights tournament. A lot of people are watching,
three point five million people on Sunday. So I I
do think golf and this is why I have she
love the sport. I think I told I was I
was kind of drunk, but I told Kevin Clark this
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when we were at UH at Cowards Volume Party. I'm like,
I kind of like golf more than football. Now. Part
of it is, you know, I make more money talking
about football, but I I haven't played football since high school.
I played golf like a week ago. I think about
my golf swing. I get to play the sport. When
I watched them play the waste management at TPC, I
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played that course last year during the World Day. I
was at drinks with a buddy on Saturday. I'm like,
the who I played the course with him? Like you
see the lines. These guys are taken and there we
didn't even play the tips. And that's the unique part
about this sport. So the more people that can dip
their foot in playing the sport, which is clearly grown
the last couple of years, the easier it is to
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watch these courses. And they play a lot of courses
like Riviera. Most people will never step up foot on Riviera.
But if you go to Scottsdale over the summer, you
can play two un bocks and play TV see. You
come to the Bay Area, you can play Harding Park.
You go to these places in these different states. You
can play some of these courses that they play. It's
it's like, why I can't go to Lambeau and play
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a flag football game. It's never gonna happen, you know.
But I can play. I can And if even if
I did, where am I gonna find twenty two people
to play? But I can easily take a buddy take hell.
I can go by myself. I did it last year
when I was real estate hunting in Scottsdale. I played
a single. I played gray Hawk. Why did I play
gray Hawk? Because I was watching it on TV the
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College Championships. I'm like, that course looks sweet, that course
looks fun. So I played it, and it's it's it's
the unique part about this game is that you get
to play it until really you can't walk anymore. I mean,
how many people you know at the club that you
play at, or you know a public course you go to,
their sixty eight year old guys out there hacking away,
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having fun, getting outside, getting some vitamin D. So if
the waste management, if other if other turn mints can
steal a little bit of that, because I think what
makes the Ryder Cups so special is it as vibes
of that and when you get that vibe, like one
thing we learned over the COVID shut down with no fans,
no fans and sports sucks. The bubble sucked, two thou twenty,
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NFL sucked. Do you know what was sweet? Bama l
s U with a packed house, forty Niners, Lambeau eighty
thou people, so Fi stadium, Niners ramps, the waste management.
Fans make sports and they literally pay for everything. Right
without them watching and consuming, there is no They are
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the business of everything. But that vibe is what truly
makes it special. So what's so cool about the Masters?
Even though everyone is on their best behavior, it's just
packed lined up on both sides of the fairway and
these enormous galleries, those views I'll never forget on whole twelve.
You know when Tiger when those guys hit in the
water and Tiger and everyone behind him like that is
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the visual you remember? Or Tiger and Charlie after he
wins at nineteen walking down that stretch to the clubhouse,
holding each other's hands, fist bumping down, just thousands of
people lined up outside the ropes. So I this week
is a lot different than that, even though it's still
pretty cool that visual coming up eighteen at Rivieria where
everyone's on the hill. Uh, even hole one where you
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hit down the hill. It's it's got some sweet visuals.
Look more of an old school course, more of course
that I I feel like I grew up playing like
the Sacramentary area with trees. Not like that nice, but
I just mean like that style. Um So I'm looking
forward to I'm definitely looking forward to this week and
I'll talk about I guess we can just talk about
that right now. Um. I love Taylor Goots this week
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the top ten. The crazy part about this golf tournament
is it was last year did a couple of days
after is Tiger Woods got in that car accident, you know,
and in Maxima an l a guy that you know,
cried winning one that almost blew the tournament. Last year
on whole eight team missed you know, like a three
or four foot putt to win it in regulation, but
then ended up kind of pulling it out of his
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ass against Tony because he was behind a tree on
the first hole, that short little part four hole ten. Uh.
But you know, really everything that the clouded the whole
week was Tiger A couple of weeks later. I mean,
at one point in time that morning, we thought Tiger
Woods might be dead, and then the information came out
that it could he ever walk again. We've come a
long way. He was able obviously to play with Charlie
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and that, you know, and the father son thing. But
all indications is I mean, this is Tiger's tournament. He's
gonna be there present the trophy. So that's cool. I
mean this this, this is just a star studdard event. Now.
I talked about this last week and I believe it's
still I can't bet on non Tiger Woods like John
Ram and Patrick can't lay to me or to the
two of the best. I mean they are to me.
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I mean I just I would want those guys have
money on him. But at nine to one and twelve
to one, I just don't love him. Justin Thomas, depending
on where you're looking, fourteen to one, DJ just hard
to tell how much he cares. But he's one here
before uh More cowan Or it feels like I haven't
seen them in a while. Xander was just playing pretty
well at the Waste Management. He just couldn't make a
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putt a deck he's been playing well. I don't think
you could ever go wrong right now. Betting on a
DECKI a decade is just on a heater, an absolute
heater actually kind of like a deckie. If you can
find him twenty five to one this week, Kepka to me,
I just do not understand it. He's clearly healthy. He
actually didn't play that well Sunday uh at waste management.
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But how many guys on the PGA tour would you
want money on? Would you want to be betting on
down the stretch of a big tournament? You talk about
a bright light sky. I talked about this on you know,
on the football podcast after um this, you know, during
the Super Bowl halftime, like Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg
have been so famous for almost thirty I mean Dr
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Dre's thirty five years n w A. Snoop came on
the scene. Like those guys are bright light guys. They
felt like NFL players when they were holding that. I
could just use them the entire halftime, just those two.
And I feel the same way about Keepka. Major's any
big tournament if he's coming in in good form, which
I think he is, right now, I I just I
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just believe in Keepka. I think his personality is perfect
in terms of he doesn't get too high, he doesn't
get too down. His just his talent is so elite. Uh,
he's as deep as anyone not named Bryson. His iron
game is as good as anybody. And there's a short
list of players that I feel as confident that's gonna
make a big put as Brooke Brooks Keepka. So I
think I just talk to myself in I like j
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T and I like Keepka as as the favorites this week.
The other story is the no laying up guys. Um
who you know? I don't If you don't know, they've
had a big podcast. You know, they kind of were
the first golf podcast I've ever listened to, uh and
still really the only golf podcast that I listened to today.
And uh, they do a great job. They have interviews.
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I mean, they've just they've been trailblazers in the space.
And I know Tron a little bit just through Twitter
DM back and forth with them. I'm I'm big fans.
They said something that really caught my attention. Now we've
been talking now for weeks about this Saudi League. It's coming.
The Saudis have an unlimited amount of money, and Phil
and Bryson and the DJs, like these guys, you know,
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might get bought for a hundred and fifty million dollars,
you know, So it's easy. I said it last week.
It's easy for everyone to get in. The Moral high
Horse is another thing. Now, Phil, I thought he's made
like seven eight hundred million dollars. You know, even DJs
made a couple hundred million. Bryson has made a lot.
But someone puts a hundred fifty million, million, two hundred million.
The numbers are all over the place. Who knows what's
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real and what's not. I saw Morikawa say today in
his press conference, like I don't even know what to believe.
He gotta ship on it. Like we just keep hearing things,
yet I have never seen one name. Well, we kind
of have seen some names. It starts with Phil Nicholson,
who I think we all believe is just gonna play
in the Saudi League. He's kind of done with the
PGA tour. He's piste off about the media rights. He's
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got all these crazy theories about how he's getting screwed
and maybe a little bit that he is because Thagala.
What we just witnessed a waste management. If the Saudi's
dream could be to buy all the top players, Thagala
would not exist. That would not be possible. So part
of I'm watching the waste management and seeing this guy
who a couple of years ago was at Pepperdine basically
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quit college because of COVID and just went pro, And
you're going, this wouldn't even what's one thing that's cool
about a golf tournament. He's going toe to toe with Brooks,
with Zander, with can't Ley, with Scheffler. Like that guy
would not even be an option in the Saudi League
because they would only have the top guys, the top
young guys in all the sweet old guys. A guy
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like Thagala would never be in their league unless you know,
over time he worked his way up and someone got
relegated and he took their spot, but it would take
him years. The only reason he was in the waste
management because he got some sponsors exemption. There there'd be
no Saudi sponsor exemption. So one thing these guys said
on their Sunday podcast is that Rison told people at
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the Saudi event two weeks ago that he's never coming
back to the PGA Tour, and I was like, damn,
I was listening to that thing and like, holy shit,
it's a pretty big thing to say. And Bryson has
come out adamantly denied it. His agent has come out
adamantly denied it. Say he has legitimately hurt, he's his
wrist is messed up, and they claim like the robber
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is gonna meet the road here he was supposed to
play this week, claims he's injured, He's not in this week.
He's the defending champ in a couple of weeks at
Arnold Palmer's tournament. Is he gonna show up? The players
isn't that far away? And if you remember last year,
he was leading the players until he like Duff that
shot and then hit it into the water. So I mean,
that's a pretty big money making time again, last I checked,
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the players is one of the biggest purses of the year.
And even if the Saudi League is happening, it's not
happening before the players. So it's gonna be hard for
Bryson to prove that his risk is legitimately hurt. But
I think we can all acknowledge there's enough smoke here
that there's some fire going on that I don't know
what to believe. I don't know what's gonna happen, but
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I do think that Phil Mickelson is done. If the
Saudi League happens, he will go. They also mentioned that
DJ was another guy that's gonna go. Now. It does
feel in a weird way like Phil and Brason, or
tied at the hip like Fils beliefs on the money,
which I somewhat understand. They're splitting money with guys like
Thagala who earns it. And that's the best part about
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golf because in the waste management, he's having this great year,
but they have to split the earnings. When you're really
watching for kept the Zanders, the Fills, the j t S,
the Brisons like they generate all the TV revenue, which
equals all the purse money, but they have to split
it with these randoms. She saw Charlie Hoffman, if you
follow this stuff on Instagram, was piste off about this ruling,
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which he's right on, and then created this whole controversy.
My only issue with Charlie Hoffman is, Charlie, you are
the waste management representative. They're your big sponsor. This is
their fucking tournament. You have. I hate it when athletes
don't realize where their bread is buttered. And that that
was a pretty clueless thing to do at his own
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sponsors tournament. If he did in another tournament, whatever, but
at the waste management It's why he came out strong
the next day in a in a garbage truck, you know,
trying to pooh pooh it. It's like, hey, he realized
what he was doing. Uh, but I don't know. I
do believe though, if Bryson, if it does come out
in a month, in two months, we just don't see
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him again. Now they're gonna be majors before this sidey
league would start. That'd be one of the craziest things
in the history of golf. Did this guy in quote
unquote the peak of his powers, who has kind of
transcended his sport because of the long drives and now
Biggie goot he became just kind of a sports figure
through the Internet and through his just kind of persona.
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If he just disappears and go to the side league
like that there, listen, that would be a major loss
for the PGA. Tour. If Bryson d Chambo just stops
playing in their events, like it's lost this week, it
would be a huge loss at bay Hill, it would
be a loss at the Players, it would be a
loss in these majors. Like it's a big deal when
Bryson is on television. Remember a couple of years ago
when he gained all the the Artage, It's like, what's
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he gonna do with Augusta. I'd argue he was the
biggest story that first year when he had gained all
the yard it's going into Augusta and then he was terrible.
But every single year if he's hitting it really far,
like he's a massive story going. He won the US
Open two years ago. So it's just something to keep
an eye on. I'm fascinated by it. I I definitely
do not think it's not plausible. I do wonder if
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there are people in Bryson's camp that are trying to
talk him out of this, Like I would imagine on
and off the course, Bryson's making thirty forty million dollars
a year. Now, there's a big difference between a hundred
and fifty a year and forty million dollars a year.
But there's also a level of you know what you're getting.
You don't have to deal with some foreign government that
fucking could kill you. Uh, you don't have to travel
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the world really if you don't want to. I do
think it's a pretty big risk for a guy like
that who is in his money making prime. I mean
ten years ago, Phil, remember when Tiger was in his
peak making seventy million dollars a year and the number
two three athlete always was like an NBA player, and
Phil Mickelson making forty five That was a decade ago. Now,
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factor inflation, money is even less valuable, so they're paying
you more. I mean, I think Bryson could wrap up
some serious cash. It's a pretty risky move. But if
he has it in his mind that, you know, I
can't monetize YouTube because the tour won't let me take
a camera around Like that's just that to me feels
a little shortsighted. Uh, it really does. Now, I'm I'm
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also biased. I don't want to lose Bryson. I enjoy
Bryson d Shambo on the PGA tour, and definitely I
think the PGA Tour enjoys him too, So maybe this
is all huge leverage play, but there are certain rules
with the way the tour is set up, you know
through you know it's called like a five O one,
seven C or I think I've probably screwed up those numbers.
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But in terms of their charitable donations and their tax
breaks that I don't think they can dramatically change and
start paying players like ultimately, a guy like Bryson wants
to get So it's it's gonna be a fascinating staring contest.
And I do think Jamnahan and the people that run
the tour are just their hands are kind of tied here.
So I think Bryson right now, moving forward until he
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comes back or if he does come back, has got
to be one of the biggest stories in golf. Okay,
the PG eight Tour is back in full swing and
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man Jason Sobell, who I'm not sure if have you
recovered yet from uh, the mayhem that is the waste management?
(23:44):
You're looking good, Yeah, I've recovered. I left before the
weekend started. I left on Saturday morning from Scottsdale, so
I was able to, uh, I avoid or you know,
tragically miss all the festivities that went on over the weekend.
But it was definitely fun to watch. I heard Colt
and Sleeve say that there is uh, you know, they
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the attendants obviously they they're not like put it in
stone with the number is. But everyone's pretty confident in
the shattered records that this weekend is that as a
fair to say, it sure seemed like it. Uh. The
attendance numbers are not exactly uh Let's put it this way.
They're not exactly scanning tickets when you go through and
(24:26):
doing the attendance that way. They used to count cars
and say that there's an average of x amount per car,
so like two point four people per car and figure
it out that way. I think they've gotten more advanced
with that. I didn't see the final attendance numbers. I
can tell you this, John, though, if if they did
set an attendance mark this year, next year with the
Super Bowl in town, they're just gonna bash it. They're
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just gonna double it. I mean, it's gonna be ridiculous
Before we get into this week, you know, it's it's hard.
I'm probably more of a prisoner of the moment this
this tournament feels. I mean, there's nothing quite like it.
And I know there's been a lot of talk, is
how can you make you can do this every week
but just have several of these a year? Is it impossible?
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I mean, you have You've been around this game for
so long and all these different tournaments all over the country.
Is it truly just a one off kind of like
the Ryder Cup, where you can't you know, manipulate that
environment anywhere else. Is it just part of the deal
that Scottsdale brings the table that other places just won't,
or could the tour do a better job of having
a rowdy atmosphere some other tournaments. I'm surprised other tournaments
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haven't tried to copycat what they do in Phoenix, at
least on one hole, at least have one party hole. Uh.
The Nelson has done it a little bit in the past.
Hartford's kind of tried it a little bit. Doesn't quite
translate to those places, but that's probably okay. I think
the players by and large are okay with it one whole,
one week out of the year. If you try to say, hey,
let's do this twenty times a year, I think it's
(25:52):
gonna be a really bad look for everybody. And it's
just it's going to get a little bit out of hand.
But they know what to expect when they get the
TV's scotts Dale. They understand it. It's a party. We
saw beers being thrown from the stands. We saw uh
players taking their shirts off. I mean, it has to
be in the right frame of what you're trying to do.
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You take your shirts off on the third fairway at Colonial,
it doesn't really make sense for a player you start
throwing beers onto the fourteenth green at Quail Hollow, It's like,
that's not really the way we do this. But for
that one week a year in Phoenix, yeah, it works
and it's fun and it's cool. And the one biggest
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difference I think John in the what fifteen years and
I've been covering that event and I've probably been there
ten twelve times over that span, is that the PGA
Tour has embraced it more than in the past. I
think ten years ago, twelve years ago, fifteen years ago. Okay,
it was still a party back then, but it was
the PGA Tour didn't want to glorify it. They didn't
want to show it off. They didn't want to get
(26:55):
everybody excited about just the party. It was more still
about the golf to them. If watched last uh, this
past weekend PGA Twour not only on TV but with
the right soldiers, but all over social media, they are
promoting the fact that this is indeed the biggest party
in golf in I know for a fact that there
are folks in ponto Vedra Beach offices on Monday morning, Uh,
(27:17):
smiling about all the social media impressions that they got
this past weekend with everything. So it's definitely changed in
that respect. Phil Phil would tell you in the Saudi League,
Joel Damon might be able to n f t that
that visual of him, you know, wrath in the college. Sure,
but let's let's stick to golf, and this is clearly
a little more of a throwback PGA golf tournament. You know,
(27:38):
it's pretty crazy. The story of this tournament last year,
despite Maxima having incredible win, was really the Tiger incident
a couple of days later, right, I mean, that's the
kind of the memorable moment. I saw a headline to
day that Tiger is gonna be there, So that's pretty cool. Uh.
You know, let's just start with some guys that that
you like, that you're excited about, and then I'll get
in because last year I had a Tony Fenel take
(28:00):
it and it was pretty devastating, you know, an extras one.
Max was behind the tree, but I was kind of
lucky to be there. Max missed that you know what
two three ft on on eighteen, so uh, but you
just started sniffing the money and then uh he made
that incredible pitch shot and the rest is history. Who
do you like coming in this weekend? At RIV So
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it's more about who I don't like, and it's almost nobody.
I do a preview every week for the Action Network
where I have different categories my favorite, outright favorite, top five,
top ten, favorite dfs, play all these different categories. At
the end, I give my big fade. It's the one
guy with a short number who I don't like that week.
I don't think he's going to win. I don't think
he can win. And this week I really struggled with it.
(28:42):
I got down to about forty to one before I
found someone that said, okay, I really you know, I'll
fade him. I don't really like him because of the
top ten in the world, who were all there? Of
the guys just below the top ten, the Brooks kept
because in the Jordan's Speeds, I look at every single
one of them and yeah, okay, there might be some
cons there, but there are a whole lot of pros
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as well, And I think you can look at those
players and say, yeah, there's a lot of reason for
me to like them this week. And so you look
at the top of the list and you try to
separate them. Patrick Cantley is the guy at the top
that I like the best. If you want to sit
here and tell me, I like John Rom, I like
Justin Thomas, I like Colin Morrikaw, I like Rory McElroy,
Dustin Johnson. All of those are really good choices. They're
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really good players. They have short odds for a reason.
Patrick Cantley, to me, has been playing some of the
best golf of his life, and I still think he
hasn't quite played his best. I don't think he's reached
that peak. I feel like over the last few weeks.
UM last week is a great example where uh, the
putter was red hot for three days, the ball striking
wasn't quite there, and then the ball striking caught up
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on Sunday in the final round, and the putter got
a little bit cold. When everything is fire on all cylinders,
Patrick Cantley is going to win one of these. This
one makes the most sense in his hometown of Los
Angeles on a ball strikers golf course. He does everything well.
Should be rewarded this week. But again, there aren't a
whole lot of guys at the top of that list
where I look at. Really, there's almost nobody at the
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top of the list of where I look at and
say no, absolutely not, don't take him. Yeah, I know
you like j T last week and you know, I
think it was a Friday, had a weird day, but
then over the weekend he was pretty dialed, and you know,
if he just had started a little faster, he might
have won the tournament. I kind of like him this
week fourteen to one, he finished second. Just looking back
at some of his previous history here in two thousand nineteen.
(30:31):
Uh so, I mean he's played well at this golf
course before, and you know, Candily right, he's played Now
there's gonna be a stard week in a row. J
T took that week off hanging out with his fiance
up and down the coast to California. So I don't
know how much you factor that in the rest. But
what about Brooks, I mean, he's coming off a pretty
good week his odds to me for a guy that
has accomplished like all these guys in the in the
(30:53):
twelve to fourteen to one, he's accomplished everything they have,
definitely in terms of majors, if not more than some
of these guys, yet he's almost double their hots the
last couple of weeks. Yeah, let me start with JT
because I want to uh, I want to make a
point on j T, which is yeah, I was on
him last week. The putting has not been great. If
he can figure out the putter, he can start winning tournaments.
(31:14):
And I'm not sure that riv is the place to
figure out a putter putting on those poland of greens,
but honestly, it neutralizes everybody. The good putters are gonna
miss potts, the bad putters are gonna miss putts. So
maybe this is a good week for JT to turn
it all around. I do think that at some point
he's just gonna go out and obliterated field. I mean,
I don't think he wins by one. When he wins.
I think he wins by eight. The next time he
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just figures it all out and play as well. So
it could certainly happen this week again. I mean, I'm
repeating myself here, but I like JT. Like all the
guys at the top, he's certainly capable of beating this field.
I believe it was three years ago, like you mentioned,
he finished runner up, but he lost a five shot
fifty four whole lead to JB. Homes shot in that
final round, and so um, maybe a little a few
(31:59):
demons still gnawing at him a little bit. Also lost
back in the two thousand eleven n ci A Team
Championship to a guy named Jordan's Speed who tends to
remind him of it every single time they get to
rivieris so vibe that's eating at him just a little
bit there as well as far as Kepta, Yeah, you're right,
it's a big number on Kepta this week. He's obviously
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starting to play better golf. Going into last week, I
didn't like him just for the fact that it had
been months, I mean like a long time, dating back
to before uh last season had ended. The last time
we'd seen Brooks Kepta playing some solid golf. He had
missed a few cuts. He'd finished UH below the midway
(32:43):
point in a few shorter fields where everyone had made
the cut. So you look at kept going and saying, okay,
well he played well this past week. Now, I know
there's the narrative of if it's not a major championship,
Brooks doesn't show up. Brooks doesn't care that much. Speaking
with Brooks, a little bit last week in a press conference,
it seems like he's pretty dialed in. He was asked
about do you think do you think they're in nineteen
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your rank in the world. Do you think they're nineteen
players in the world right now? We're better than you?
Of course not. That's embarrassing. So I can't believe, you know,
granted it's injuries and other things, but I can't believe
I'm twentieth in the world. That needs to change soon.
And so he does seem motivated inspired right now to
go out and play some good golf. And in a
field where he's got those ten guys, the top ten
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in the world all in front of him, who are
playing this week. I think it would be a good
place to look at Brooks trying to be a little
giant killer this week. I'd also say win or lose,
he keeps playing good golf, wouldn't you say? The players
and the masters, He's a guy to keep an eye
on if his odds remain and definitely in to one
and above, there's no doubt. I mean love him for
(33:47):
the big events moving forward. The only little issue with
Brooks is that he tends to talk you into wanting
to play him like I said, you know he was
you know, I said, he's embarrassed about being twenties in
the world and has to change. I'm gonna play good guy.
You'r you haven't seen the best of Brooks yet. You
know I'm gonna turn it on. He says everything right,
So it's a better You have to look at it
(34:08):
and say, all right, does he really mean it? Is
he really about to turn things on? Does he just
think he's gonna turn it on and think he's gonna
play good golf? Or is it all just a little
bluster and bravado. So I think we have to sort
of separate that and interpret that. But I do think
it's going to be a good year for Brooks. Okay,
let's talk about long shots. You brought up a name
before we hopped on here in Francisco, Molinari, who was
(34:30):
a member there. I wrote down a couple in Alex Norn,
who was in the mix last week and who's played
good golf. I've been on him several times over the
last couple of years. I like him a lot. And
Leashman is a name that I've kind of seen out there. Uh,
start with Molinari and then tell me with your thoughts
on Norn and Leashman. Yes, Mollinari is probably the biggest
public play this week. Everyone's gonna be on him, and
(34:51):
everyone loves the narrative of Hey, he's playing his own
course where he moved out to l A a a couple
of years ago and joined Rivieria, and so it's perfect
for him. That that doesn't always work that well. Uh.
You know, I've spoken over the years to so many
players about playing your hometown event, playing in your backyard,
sleeping in your own bed. It sounds great until you're
going to leave the house in the morning and the
(35:12):
wife said, well, can you drop off the kids at school?
And no, by the way, take out the trash and
if you get empty the dishwasher and oh, here comes
the neighbors. They you know, you've never met him before.
They live across the street and down three houses, but
you know they're really big fans and they'd love to
have some tickets this week. And all of a sudden,
you're dealing with all these outside entities that you necessarily
don't deal with on the road. That said my podcast
(35:34):
partner at The Action Network, Ben Everel, who works for
the PGA Tour. Told me he was out at rid
of a couple of weeks ago, and one of the
caddies said, I would put my mortgage on Francesco Mallin
already had finish in the top ten this coming week,
and he has ten to one for eight top ten finish,
so I I really like that he was eighth at
this event last year, has more experience on the course
than he did at that point, also playing some good
(35:56):
golf as far as the other guys, Nor and I
really like, Yeah, coming off a good week, it's it's
almost like I just don't want to catch him on
that kind of downslide a little bit. You're you're hoping
that it's a little two week peek for Alex Norman.
I'm trying to im I know, I get it, I
get it, and I try that all the time. You're
hoping he's still kind of trending upwards. But really good
(36:18):
ball striker who putted really well last week. So that's
a really good sign for Norn and Leishman is a
guy that a lot of people are on this week.
I'm waiting to see what the conditions are like. It's
been hot and dry in l A. Over the last
a few weeks, it's supposed to get I've seen varying reports.
Some have said rain for the first day or two,
(36:39):
and some have said, you know, the rain is passed
and it's not going to hit Los Angeles. Well if
it does. I don't like Leishman as much. Leishman I
I always tend to uh to tend to play him,
tend to like him at events where it's fast and firm,
firstly and secondly where there's some wind blowing. I just
think he's a good low ball player, puts his mid
and long irons really well, good around the green, so
(37:01):
that all of that could correlate to this golf course.
Is I want to see the conditions a little bit
more before I jump in on Leashman. Okay, last name
I know this guy is a favorite of a lot
of people like you that are close to the toy.
Is a really good player is Taylor Gooch who last
year finished twelfth, two years ago finished top ten. I mean,
if you want to get ball, don't know about his
win equity, but tend to one to top five and
(37:24):
about you know, almost five to one or yeah, ten
to one to top five and almost four and a
half to one to top ten. Uh, what do you
think about that play? Yeah, I really like Taylor Gooch
this week. The one thing we usually look out in
regard to Gooch is his ball striking. Is one of
the game's better iron players, I think, at least outside
of those top ten type players. And so, um, you've
(37:47):
got the ball striking, but he's also sixth on the
PGA Tour and strokes gained around the greens, and guys
are going to miss greens this year. This week it
just happens at Riviera. They're smaller greens, an old style.
Of course, you're just not gonna hit eighteen of eighteen
every day and just have to turn it into a
putting contest, and so you're gonna have to get up
and down. Taylor Gooch one of the better ones that
(38:08):
not only ball striking but getting up and down from
around the greens. That's a really nice combination for this week.
So I do agree with you. I like Gucci a
lot this week. And before I get you out of here,
I think we mentioned this guy last week, but like
I said, I mean I bet on this guy last
year to win, and this guy's numbers were consistently twenty
two one, two to one. I think he's fifty what's
up with Tony Fenelle? I mean, this is what's going
(38:30):
on with the guy? I don't know. I was very
bullish on Feene coming into the year, and I thought
it would be a really good one for him. I
still think it can be a really good one for him.
And I do think that at some point we're gonna
want to jump on Tony Fenelle when he's fifty two
one and he's gonna win something else and we're gonna
be uh get a nice payoff on that on that
(38:51):
female ticket. I just I don't think it's coming this week.
I haven't seen really any signs in his game that
show he's about to play some really good golf. Remember Phoenix,
the place where he's played well in the past as well.
I believe Uh lost in the playoff to Web Simpson
two years ago, and so you looked at it last
week and said he's played well here, it could be
a good week, and he wound up missing the cut.
So until we see a little bit more form from Tony,
(39:13):
I'm gonna stay away. But yeah, you're right, that fifty
two one number is a big number, and that sounds
pretty juicy. Okay, one more quick thing. I I talked
about this on the podcast. Do you expect to see
Bryson d Shambo on the PGA Tour again? I don't know.
And sometimes you say something on a podcast and all
of a sudden everyone reports it as fact and uh,
(39:36):
and you're breaking a news story. So I'm gonna ride
the fence a little bit on this one. I do
think that whether there's smoke, there's fire, and we've seen
and heard Bryson is speaking with the upcoming Saudi Golf
League about joining their thing. The one thing that surprised
me about for those who don't know, the news is
out that, uh, there's sort of a semi report I'll
(39:57):
call it that Bryson was not to play the PGA
Tour anymore and was gonna join the Saudi Golf League.
And then Bryson's agent came out, as reported by Ryan
Lavner of Golf Channel, saying now we're hoping to play
bay Hill in a couple of weeks. He's just not
healthy right now, but when the wrist heals up, hoping
to be out to defend that title at the Arnold
Palmer Invitational, and so whatever the case might be in
(40:18):
the short term, the long term is, Yes, this Saudi
Golf League is happening. I was told by a player
recently that it's happening over the next few months and
they're gonna play events, many of which will be based
in the United States. And yes, some big name players
will be playing in this league. And I don't know
if it means they'll never again play on the PGA Tour.
They can play select events on the PGA Tour certainly
(40:40):
shouldn't affect their status for major championships. But the dynamic
of golf is going to change a little bit if
some of these big name players aren't playing on weekly
uh in weekly events on the PGA Tour. And I
do believe that's gonna happen sooner rather than later. Maybe
the next four to five months, I would say, is
the time frame for all of us to develop. And UH,
(41:01):
we shouldn't be surprised by it. We've been talking about
this for over a year now, talking about how they're
trying to infiltrate what has long been standing as uh,
the dynamic in golf as far as the the tours
and the circuits the top the world's tours right now,
and so it's going to happen. As far as which players,
(41:24):
I I'm guessing that based on what we know, based
on reports, we can at least take a very solid
guestimation one year old Lefty. There you go. Um, the guys,
I will tell you this much. Guys who have talked
about growing the game around the world, Guys who have
complained about not getting paid for their media rights, and
(41:45):
guys who have somehow taking drops they didn't like and
didn't like a ruling and didn't like a set up
and said, hey, maybe I'll go play somewhere else. I
would start your list with those players, and they might
be ones who will be playing in the SNUNTI Golf
League at some point. Well, Jason, I appreciate your time,
and uh, let's enjoy Rivieria this week and I'll talk
to you. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks, John, I
(42:08):
appreciate it. And yeah, this it's so different. Mean, we
started out this conversation talking about the w M Phoenix
Open at TPC Scottsdale last week and what a party
it is. Talking about the Genesis Invitational this week at
Rivieria two completely different events, completely different golf courses. I
love both of them, maybe equally. And like I've been
saying all week, you can have two children who are
(42:29):
very different from each other. It doesn't say you don't say, well,
I like that one a lot, and I don't really
like that one as much. You say, uh, they're they're
completely opposites. They're totally different from each other, and I
love both of them. So it's uh, it's a good
thing about the PGA Tour that we are able to
get such a varied, uh very templative events from a
(42:50):
weekly basis. Well, Jason so will Monday through Wednesday, PGA
Tour Radio two to four Eastern and Links and Locks
on the Action Network Podcast network. Appreciate your time, and um,
let's enjoy some golf. Absolutely, thanks thanks Jason. Okay, let's
get to the let's get to the mail bag. You
(43:12):
go to the Instagram Go low pod. You know how
Instagram has an at sign Go low pod, Go low pod,
Fire up in those d m s and we'll go
from there. Justin huge fan alright, got a question about
doubling down and live betting a tournament. Each week, I
picked three or four players to win and continuously look
at their live odds throughout the weekend. Two weeks ago
(43:33):
at Pebble, I had can't least seven to one and
spee as the weekend turn, I live bet Jordan and
can't lay again on Saturday and Sunday, only for Tom
freaking Hogi to ruin my chances. Same scenario this past week.
Scottie Scheffler was one of them. I bet him live
Sunday with terrible odds plus done eighty one. After the
(43:53):
second hall, I looked after a bogey seven eight to
fall to the board plus eight fifty, but was too
scared of getting was like I did at Pebble. What
should my strategy be when I have one of the
three or four guys in contention on Saturday Sunday, keep
the original best or reinvest worst odds or try to
hedge with another player. Golf is basically impossible to hedge
(44:14):
because at any moment, some random guy can take you out,
like Tom Hog right, so you you can't hedge. You
don't have an unless you bet on literally every guy
in the mix, which you're not gonna do, and you
would lose money with that strategy. I like your strategy.
I might try that this week. I might pick four
guys to win and then I bet some of them.
(44:36):
I'm gonna go Justin, Thomas Kepta, Taylor Gooch, and I'll
pick one other guy, Alex Norn, and I'm just gonna
live bet him that that's That's not a terrible idea.
Maybe the idea is the top five your guy. Bet
your guy at the top five, so then if he's
in the mix. Maybe maybe that's the strategy. Pick the
(44:57):
guys you like and bet them to top five, and
then if you like them, if they're in the mix
Saturday Sunday, then bet them to win. I'm just I'm
just thinking out loud here, But that's maybe what I do.
That gives you a little more wiggle room, right because
if you had can't laid top five and then you
bet them to win, you know you still would have
made some money. Again, could be wrong on that one.
(45:20):
I'm mom Xander in the waste management. What do you
think the score to win given the first three days
of play? Yeah, man, I had him too. I had
Xander before the week. I put a little money on
them live and same with Alex Norn. But man, it
just you know, betting in golf is hard. It is
an incredible rush when you win, but there are just
(45:42):
so many, you know, Scottie Scheffler, who it couldn't feel
like Scotty Scheffler is gonna win. At any moment, it
felt like it was gonna be Kepta Xander can't Lay
or Thigala and then when the dust settles, Scottie Scheffler
is in the playoff. But that that's what makes gambling
on golf fund. I mean, part of it is the returns,
the r o or unlike any other sport. Besides like
(46:02):
future bets. Right, if I want to bet, you know,
the fucking Packers to win the Super Bowl at one,
I know that that wouldn't be their number if Aaron
was there, to be smaller, if Aaron left, to be
like fifty to one. But you know what I'm saying,
I gotta wait five months. With golf, you're just waiting
a couple of days. But it's pretty easy to lose.
I'm planning to go to Riviera next week and I've
(46:24):
never been to a PGA event. Do you recommend that
I wander the course, follow a group of golfers, or
enjoy the event by sitting at a specific green. I've
done a little bit of everything having been to golf tournaments,
I would say the first golf if you've never been
to a golf tournament, I would just roam around the
first golf tournament I ever went to, or nine whatever,
(46:46):
the US Open at Olympic Club when Lee Jansen won
and first Payne Stewart, uh and I just walked everywhere.
If you've never been to the course, like I would
watch walk the course and then if you feel a
little tired, get a beer, a hot dog, get a burger,
and just pull up at one of the holes. Maybe
a Part three, maybe a cool part five, um, you know,
(47:07):
after you get a lay of the land. Now, if
you have money on someone, I've never gone to a
golf tournament and bet on someone, that would be pretty
cool to do. Like if I was gonna bet on
Taylor Gooch, which and I was going to Riviera, I
would follow Taylor Gooch because like if you're betting on
Justin Thomas or DJ or Rory, it's it's not Tiger,
(47:28):
but it is harder to follow the top guys just
because the crowds are massive. So that my strategy you know,
if I go to Pebble, I go right to like
whole six or all the alcoholis. If I go to Olympic,
I'd probably walk around. Uh. If I went to Riviera,
because I've never been to the course, I would walk around.
(47:51):
I might hang out a whole one, watch some guys
hit some t shots, and then just kind of work
my way throughout the course. How do you feel about
Patrick Cantley's Master future to one right now? I mean,
you'd say him and John rom are the two best
players in the world right now. Can't Ley is a
fucking machine. The Masters this year is going to be
(48:12):
a fantastic Jordan's speed is eleven to one. Jesus can't lay. Yeah,
I got him about twenty to one. So yeah, I mean,
I I don't think it's crazy at all. I don't
really enjoy betting on Patrick can't Ley. Not that I
don't think he's a great guy, but holy sh it,
does he take a long time to put hurry up
and hit the golf ball. Why are you standing over
(48:32):
the golf ball for so long? What are you doing?
Just hit the ball, like you look at the line.
You've seen both sides. He stands over the ball. Someone
tweeted this out over the weekend for twenty five seconds
standing over the golf ball to put. He is so slow.
I don't love betting on him. Love the pod have
(48:54):
two part questions. I'm from Sack area, and I was wondering,
what is your favorite course up this way to play? Uh? Well,
I grew up playing Elma Sero and Wild Horse and
Davis more than playing in Sack. Rancho Marietta. Um. I
honestly I haven't played Sack golf and so long since
like junior high and high school, I'd say Rancho Marietta.
(49:18):
I would say that's probably that's the last Sacramento course
I've played in like the last decade. I honestly don't
play that much Sack. I played way more golf in
the valley, in the Fresno area and then obviously here
in the Bay area than Sack. But Yochadishi, which is
actually kind of toward Napa, It to me is one
(49:38):
of the best public courses in northern California. It's on
the Indian Casino. It's fantastic. He used to be like
sixty seventy dollars to play. COVID inflation and I think
it's now like a hundred fifty, but it's it's it's
pretty sweet. I recommend that to anybody who's up in
the northern California area. And rookie Austin Smotherman is from
sack I was wondering, after finishing top ten at Tory,
(50:00):
finishing t thirty three at Pebble, do you even think
he'd get his first win this year? I think it's very,
very difficult to win on tour. The fields have never
been deeper, the players have never been more talented. Like
think about the guys that have won recently. Scottie Scheffler
was on the Ryder Cup and has been basically top
ten in every single major. I think we had to
(50:21):
beat can't Ley, Xander brooks Adki won a couple of
weeks ago. HOGI won at Pebble and he's been in
the mix now for a couple of years. He's been
playing at a really high level. And think who he
had to beat, Jordan Cantley. So it's just this week.
Look at the field, I mean, it's going to be
very very difficult for random guys who haven't been on
(50:44):
the tour that long. Rookie players, young guys to win
huge tournaments. Now, could he win a John Deer Classic,
Could he win a Barracuda? Could he win a Safe
Way Open? For sure? I mean, anyone who's in that
you know, has a chance to win. But I think
any you know, Tory Pines, a pebble beach, a Riviera,
(51:05):
I'm not even sure is he in this tournament. Uh
it's just very, very hard to just beat all these guys.
I mean, it's just just such loaded fields. Uh yeah,
So again, subscribe to the gol Pot. Gol Pot, ask
me any question you want and we'll keep this podcast rolling.
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