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The volume What is going on Everybuddy, John Middlecops Golo
Podcast reacting to the PGA Championship, Kepka wins number five,
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Michael Block the Teaching Pro finishes top fifteen hol on
one on Sunday. What a weekend for Rochester, New York.
Josh Allen von Miller heavily involved, and uh just an
awesome four days of golf. So I watched it all,
Gonna react to obviously the two biggest stories, Block of Koepka,
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and then hit on a couple other things. Nice week
for Live some of their guys obviously Kepka one, Cam
Smith Bryson pretty good week for sure, and Rory McElroy
will dive into it all. So here's the plan. I'm
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PGA championship from starting to finish, all week long, the
ups and the downs of the weather to a Sunday
that was pretty majestic. Not trying to get my jim
nance on here and be too hyperbolic, but that Michael Blockshot,
I think I got to start with him. Then we'll
get into Koepka, and then we'll hit on a couple
other things that you know, I thought really happened this week.
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But I think the unique part about the sport of golf,
and I tell this to anyone that I talked to,
I try to talk about this to those of you
that listen is listen. Football is the biggest sport in
this country by a wide margin. I love the sport
of football just like many of you do. It literally
pays my bills. I've dedicated a large percentage of my
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life to it. But like most people probably listening, I
have not played the game pass high school, and there
is a small percentage of people that do, and then
there is less a small percentage of people past college
that are able to play the game professional. But that
is not the with golf, and unlike basketball. I used
to love playing pickup hoops in my twenties. I'm thirty
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seven years old. I can't afford to Tarran Achilles to
tarrannee Hell. I don't even ski anymore because I don't
want to get injured. I don't even have children yet.
The one thing about the sport of golf is it's
probably the one sport slash activity you literally can do
until you die. It's why any of you guys that
play golf regularly, and whether you are a member at
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a country club or a member at a local muni,
and you go out there during the week or the weekend,
you will see everyone from a five year old to
someone that's seventy five eighty years old. It's the special
part about the sport. I remember being a kid, my
dad loved tennis, but by the time I was like
ten years old, you know, it was fifty, he didn't
play anymore. Like most activities sports beside the main ones, basketball, football,
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and baseball that most of us stopped playing really at
the longest in our twenties. You can't do as you
get older. And that's the one special part about this sport.
And I've loved it from a very young age because
I started playing it young, and I'm you know, quote
unquote addicted to the game. I have a passion for
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the game, and not even just me playing it, talking
about it, watching it, discussing it with other people, because
I think it's so unique to all the other sports.
And if you're a member at a club or you
play consistently at a course, you know a guy there
that's probably really good. I have played with players that
have played in the US Open or played in PGA
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Tour events, and I can play them straight up. Obviously
they got to give me strokes, but like you literally
can play against them. I ran into Larry Fitzgerald. They
didn't talk to him or anything, but I was having
breakfast last week and Larry Fitzgerald was there. He's a
big dude, and I was thinking, like I was thinking
about today watching Michael Block and Kopka, you know, separated
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by a couple holes, right, and getting similar celebrates down
the stretch is. I couldn't have gone up to Larry
Fitzgerald and be like, hey, let's take a little billy
over there in the corner booth. Give him a football.
I'll play linebacker or dB. You just play your position
and let me see if I can cover you. But
you got to give me a couple You gotta give
me a couple steps, right, you can't do that. I
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can't play JJ Watt one on one. I can. There's
no point in playing an NBA player one on one basketball.
It's not the way it works. Butt In golf, I
could run into Tony Finow or John Rahm or anyone
that lives in Scottsdale, and I can play them. They
have to give me whatever said strokes are in my handicap,
and I can play them at the courses in which
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they play. Now, some of them clearly private courses I
or you would not have access to. But we can
go to TPC Scottsdale. I can pay five hundred and
fifty dollars in play pebble Beach. I can't go play
a pickup football game at lambeau Field right or Sofi Stadium.
That's not possible. And on top of that, no one
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does it. It's really what makes the game of golf
so cool. So when you see Michael Block, a PGA
teaching professional, having the success he had, he destroyed our
entire Ryder Cup team, Morikawa, fenale Xander JT. Spieth, he
fucking drubbed them. Now, this is a guy who is
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not some random golfer. He's not me or you. He's
not some three handicaps, some seven handicaps, some ten handicaps.
He has played in majors consistently, several majors, He's been
on a couple PGAs, he's played in US Opens. He's
a high end golfer. He still teaches golf to help
pay the bills. He's just kind of a working man, right.
His profession happens to be golf. And I saw someone
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tweet it out during the weekend that his average score
his senior year in college, which was you know, in
the late mid nineties, was seventy seven. Now, that's the
other thing about golf. You can't improve as you age.
In most sports, like we listened before, you get worse
as you get older. It's what to me makes the
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game so special. It's not like anything else so do
way more people watch football. Of course, it's football more
important to me financially and just in terms of being
able to reach people one hundred percent, one hundred percent.
But my relationship with golf is because of guys like
Michael Block that just doesn't I was glued, so we're
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probably you and to go seventy seventy seventy seventy one.
And it's one thing to just have a remarkable week.
It's another thing over the weekend to play with Justin Rose,
who is easily one of the best players over the
last fifteen years, and Rory McElroy, you know, is probably
a top two or three player over that period of time,
and you to combined one over par just just an
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incredible accomplishment. To watch the guy having so much fun.
It felt like you knew him, even though none of
us probably do know him, but we all know ay
Michael Block and maybe not even a Michael Block who's
that good, But it felt like, yeah, that's our neighbor.
That's a guy that I've played golf with several times.
Because the other thing in the sport of golf, whether
you're playing with Tony Fenw, Michael Block, or your buddy,
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you play for ten twenty bucks, you go after the round,
go to the bar, get some appetizers, and slam a
couple of beers and bullshit, usually about sports. And that's
what it felt like he represented today. It felt like
he represented all of us that love golf, that love
watching golf, that know we're never gonna sniff any meaningful tournament,
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let alone a major championship. And it felt like he
knew it. And that's what I thought was so cool
about it. It's another thing to know it and having
this responsibility in this pressure, it's another thing to kick
ass and take names. The dude had a hole in
one when he said, I have a pet peeve. I
have several pet peeves, well one of them. I hate
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living the dream because I think most people that say
it like they're kind of miserable inside. It's such a
bullshit saying it's your classic saying that, like now you're
not living the dream, you would rather be doing something else.
But he said it several times. I'm like, yeah, I
kind of believe him, because he even acknowledged yesterday on
Saturday that it's probably never going to get any better
in this this there's a decent chance in the golf
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in my golfing life. This is the best weekend of
my life, and he's probably right. And then to get
up and down on eighteen to qualify for next year's
PGA Championship. As Jim nance said, I mean a whole
won the day he's exchanging scorecards with Rory McElroy and
Jim Nantz is on the mic like, you can't make
that up on a Sunday in a major where the major,
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the winning score is going to be single digits under par.
So it wasn't some just like you know, some run
of the mill major. I mean this was a very
very difficult test and he kicked the crap out of
the majority of the guys are going to be in
the Ryder Cup on our squad besides Scotty and and
Brooks Koepka. I mean he drubbed them all. So, Michael
Block one of the coolest stories. I'm not even trying
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And speaking of Superstar Player, what is not debatable now?
Moving forward and as majors go, if he's healthy, like
you just have to consider him now, Rob Scottie Brooks,
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Rory like that. There are just some names at the
top of the betting card, and I was off the
scent this week. I'm like, I don't know, man, But
when brooks Kepka is healthy, besides Scottie Scheffler, there is
no American who's in his breath when all the chips
are on the table. And it's the reason we watch sports, right,
It's the reason why so many of us, with our
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buddies or while we're watching games, make fun of guys
like Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott or James Harden, or
that watch golf that don't like Patrick can't lay. I
don't care how much money those guys make. James Harden's
gonna make four hundred and four hundred and fifty million
dollars playing basketball. He's never gonna win a game that
means anything to any of us. Cousins and Dak are
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gonna combine make hundreds of millions of dollars and they're
gonna get beat every single year in the playoffs. And listen,
there's nothing that they're remarkable careers. They're super rich. But
like we watch sports, what do you do in the playoffs? Right,
It's why we hold the Michael Jordan's just watch that
movie fantastic Tom Brady's, Patrick Mahomes, you know what Jokic
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is doing right now, the Currys, the Lebron's, all the
great players of my lifetime, Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson to
such high regards. Lewis Hamilton. You name the sport because
we judge you when the lights are the brightest, when
all the chips are in the middle of the table,
how do you react? And the one cool part about
sports is there are clear lines of delineation. Certain games,
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certain tournaments, certain whatever the sport is matter more than others.
Right in basketball, the NBA playoffs matter dramatically more than
a random game in January. I say it all the time.
In baseball, there is not one game that happened Sunday,
May twenty first that matters at all. It doesn't yet
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in the middle of October, in Game five on the
road for a pitcher like that game could help define
his career. Madison Bumgardner just got paid thirty five million
dollars within the last month to leave the Diamondbacks. They
defate him. Yet where I come from in Northern California,
that guy will be a lifetime legend because he came
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out of the bullpen in Game seven of the World
Series on the road. He's a starting pitcher and shoved
like six innings and carried the Giants to their third
championship in five years. So I don't care how crappy
and how derailed his career got after that moment. I
will judge him on what he did when everyone was watching.
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It mattered the most, and in golf, four times a
year matter dramatically more. That there is a gap. I
don't know how wide it is. It feels like it's
never been wide that the four majors compared. You can
give me the elevated events and listen. They're cool. I
like watching them, and they're playing for a lot of
money and it's fun to consume and gamble on and
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I watch them. But in terms of the importance of
winning one of those tournaments and winning the other four
tournaments throughout the year, the Masters, this the US Open
and the British Open, as I call it. I know
the guys across the pond call it the Open Championship.
It's not even close. I don't care how much cash
they give it to win the FedEx Championship. What Kepka
does in these tournaments. Is absolutely incredible because we thought
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like he was derailed because he was injured. Remember he
couldn't bend over, and then you watch full swing, he
was kind of being like, I don't know, my body
might be shot. I might not have it anymore. He
said that, not us, and then this year he's healthy
to come back and to be right in position to
win the Masters, and you know, kind of listen, he
had a rough day. He had a rough day, but
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it's not like he finished thirtieth, when he finished top four,
and then to come into this tournament and go sixty six,
sixty six, sixty seven Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and you know
the leaderboard won't reflect it. He was in complete control.
He was in complete control. And he had some moments
today where I thought, like Hovelin, could you know, at
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least tie him, but he never did because that fucking
guy makes more clutch par putts. Listen, he makes birdies,
he makes you know, huge shots when it has to
happen swing times. But no guy in the modern era
makes more eight to twelve foot par putts on Saturday
and Sunday in major championships. And this guy has now
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entered you know legendary status. He's passed Speech, He's passed
Rory with his fifth major. To me, it's not about
the five majors. I'm going when does he get six?
Because now at LAC, when we talk about the favorites,
John Rahm, Scotty Scheffler, Rory, those guys have been the
clear favorites the last several tournaments. This guy has to
be mentioned there. The odds have not reflected it, and
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I don't even know if they will reflect it at LACC,
but they better because there is no way like his
odds should be better than Rory McElroy going into LACC.
His odds should be every bit as good as Scotty
Scheffler and John Rahm going into LACC. And if they're not,
we're all morons for not betting it, because you watch
them today and you watch them at the Masters for
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eight rounds this year. And I don't know if Zach
Johnson's gonna pick him to go on the Ryder Cup team. Listen,
it's his prerogative. You know, the owgr points and the
way they do it. He's not going to be an
automatic pick. But besides Scotty Scheffler, he's better than them all.
It's just a fact, you know, week in week out,
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when it matters at these big tournaments, j T, Spieth, Morikawa,
zend Er, Tony, they're not brooks Kopka like he's got.
I looked it up before I hopped on thirteen top
tens in majors, five top fives and obviously the five wins.
This guy comes through when it matters the most, and
it's all we want out of our athletes. It literally
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is to just get it done when the lights are
the brightest, because listen, this tournament might not pay out
some as as well as some of these other elevated events,
but it creates your career at a higher level by
winning this thing. Like Wyndham Clark would easily hand in
his win of a couple of weeks ago for this championship,
so would every single player this year non John Rahm
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at the Masters, including Scotti Scheffler at the Players. So
brooks Kepka feels like he's back. I mean this this
was a big loss for the PGA Tour. There's no
way around it. Because if he's going to be healthy,
you know, DJ was a little bit older, you know,
it'd been playing at a higher level for a lot longer.
Bryson was much more of a very fit product. This
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guy was. Now you could argue he didn't care that
much about the random tournaments though he would, you know,
win the waste. He would win events. But just not
having this guy around kind of sucks, and honestly, not
having the top the high end of Live had a
good week, you know, having Bryson, which has gone through
more body changes than anyone I remember, like a three
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year span, but it was fun watching him play well.
Cam Smith at one point, dime, you looked up the day,
it felt like, God, could he finish top five? What
did he end up finishing? He was awesome today. Cam
Smith shot five hundred today, finished top ten. So you
got Cam Smith, Bryson Brooks. You know, I think everyone
misses DJ. I mean, those were the guys, right, Phil's
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just a name at this point who's gonna play well,
you know at Augusta. But that was the crew guys
that live lifted from the PGA tour that hurt that.
There's just there's just no way around it. All the
Sergios and the Ian Poulters and the Lee Westwoods, whatever,
but that group of players were just big time major
winning box office level talents, and Kepka when it comes
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to the majors, even more than DJ. I mean, DJ
is more accomplished given that he's been winning longer. I
mean he's older, but Brooks's just the better player at
the major's not really disputable, and today was, you know,
an incredible accomplishment by him winning this fifth major. But
I also think it speaks to like, when's he gonna
join Phil Lee, Trevino and Nick Faldo at number six?
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Because I'll be honest, if he stays healthy, Like that's
the only thing that can derail him, because if he's healthy,
how does he not win another major? Honestly, I think
like he's every bit the favorite. You know. I like
John Rahm a lot at LACC. I think Kepka's got
to be right there. If Kepka's not seven, eight to one,
if you can get him twelve thirteen, fourteen to one,
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I think he hammer at LACC, because holy moly, can
this guy play when it matters. Another guy that can
really play is Scottie Scheffler. I mean, yesterday kind of imploded.
You just thought, like, oh, maybe not his week. You know,
he finished like twelfth or tenth or seventh or you know, fifteenth.
What did you do today? Shot sixty five. He ties
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for the low round of really the weekend and was
just awesome. Like I said, there are two Americans right
now in these big tournaments that have separated themselves from
the pack of awesome players. I mean multi millionaire winners,
guys that have won majors. But Scotty Scheffler and Brooks
Kepker at a different level. And he saw it today.
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I mean they shot combined five eight under part Now
it was a little different. Scotty got to come from
behind and just let it fly, but sort of to Rory.
And I got to give Rory credit because early on
in this tournament it felt like he could get derailed.
It felt like he could get derailed. I thought he
battled like I know Kopka can battle, I know Scheffler
can battle, hell, I know Hovel can battle. Sometimes with
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Rory it feels like when he's rolling, it's like a
football team. When I got like a fourteen point lead,
I'm gonna win the game every time. But some of
those teams you know that are like can come from behind.
All those Patriot Brady teams that they could be down
seven going into the fourth court, and he felt pretty
good about him. The Chiefs are a lot like that now.
They have a lot of mental toughness, a lot of
mental fortitude. You know, a little adversity does not derail him.
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Felt for a long time adversity can just derail Rory,
and I do think these last two years, at no
point this week could he have won this tournament. But
he definitely could have mailed it in. And as a
guy that mailed it in after the Masters, felt like
he showed a lot of signs of life. I mean,
he finished T seven, but after kind of a really
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rough Thursday, sixty nine, sixty nine, sixty nine, especially in
the weather. Like when I think Rory McElroy, I don't
think a guy grinding away in the wind in the cold,
and he did so. I thought today was a pretty
positive looking forward for Rory the rest of the season,
you know, something to build on, and it would be
awesome to see him right there with a rom Scotti
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or Koepka, like seriously, not not like playing three or
four groups ahead on Saturday and Sunday, but like in
the final group with one of those guys at LACC
at the Open, and I hope we get that because
I thought this weekend was awesome. I really did the course,
the course shine. And people often ask, like, what is
the PGA Championship, right, I thought this week was the
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PGA Championship kind of has a US Open feel to it.
You can say, like, why don't they mix it up
and play courses we've never seen before, or why don't
they just play really freaking hard courses. It was very
enjoyable to watch them play a course where at any moment,
even kept got a two shot lead, he could make
a bogie like sometimes when they play some of these courses,
especially in the majors. I mean, it doesn't really happen
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at the Masters, right, If you got a two shot
lead on the back nine, it's gonna be hard for
you to make a couple of bogies because there are
several birdies, you know, coming down the pike, And today
it's like, yeah, you could make a birdie coming down
the stretch if you hit the fairway. But if I
missed the fairway, I've hit it in a bunker. I mean,
look at Victor Houghlin on sixteen. He did the same
thing Corey Connors did on Saturday, and it was hard
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to watch and you felt like Victor Hovlin's entire body
fall out, you know, his heart fall into his stomach.
He felt for him. But it's like that, that's playing
in a major championship. That the line of you know,
being there, forcing Brooks to go to extra holes and
being tied for second with Scottie Scheffer is that is
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the difference of five yards being in the fairway or
being in a shitty spot in a bunker that has
a high lip. And I thought the course was awesome.
I really did. I really enjoyed it. A lot of
people said, like, don't get your hopes up, it's kind
of bland. I really enjoyed that type golf. We don't
get it that much anymore. We get so many birdy fests,
we get so many places where you can spray it everywhere.
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And the rough isn't that penal. I enjoy long rough.
I enjoy watching like if you miss the fairway you
have to chip it out, and there's some luck involved
with how it falls. Well, so be it. It's golf.
I mean a huge element of golf is luck and
things out of your control just because you hit a
beautiful shot, sometimes you might miss it by five year
and bounces the wrong way and you're in the bunker.
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You know. I never like were these guys when they
bitch and moan about saying I don't get rewarded for
a good shot, Like who says you have to get rewarded?
Where's that in the rule book? Especially at the highest level.
I mean us random mid week hacks. They're just trying
to break eighty or trying to break ninety, Like, we
don't get rewarded. White watch you this is You're an
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entertainment product. And I thought this weekend was very, very entertaining.
And last but not least, I the guy feels and
it's this guy now feels more inevitable given the way
he's playing than even like my guy Xander and Tony,
which I'm not going to gamble on moving forward for
a while. Victor Hovelin is just a better player than
basically a lot of our top American guys. Now, this
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is three straight majors with him, final group at the Open,
T four at the Masters, and T two today at
the at the PGA. I think you gotta hammer him
for these last two majors. He showed a lot of
metal today. I love his demeanor. He doesn't ever look
like he's freaked out. I mean, really, the difference of
him today was double bogie on sixteen. It's not like, well,
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you know, he ended up losing this tournament. Now he
shot sixty eight. If you shoot sixty eight on a
Sunday in the final group at a major that is
playing this difficult, he got a pretty good chance. Just
happens at Brooks shot sixty six. Obviously, Hovelin was one
down coming in today, but I thought he was awesome.
I mean, he's a bass striking Jesse. His chipping is
vastly improved. I mean that was a thing that me
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and Sobil have talked about for years. It's hard to
bet on guys to win these big tournaments when chipping
is such a major question mark. That's a thing with
Mari Kawa. Putting is such a major question mark. I
watched Hovelin basically every shot the last two days. I
thought I was very confident, especially coming Sunday, that he
was going to get up and down on all these shots,
and he consistently did. I mean, he was putting himself.
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Everything was seven six feet and in I mean talking
about tough chips, buried lies, short sighted. He was excellent.
I mean this guy, this guy's a young star. He's
gonna win a ton of tournaments. He already has, you know,
an incredible amount of scar tissue in a short period
of time. Yet where it's not there's difference in scar tissue, right,
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there's one. Hey, I'm in the final group. I shoot
seventy seven. I finished t eighteen. It's like, well, I
played really good for three days and then I shit
the bed on Sunday. That's not what's happening here. That
is not what's happening here at all. I'm twenty five
years old, I'm in the final group with a guy
with four majors. I ended up not winning, But shit,
I shot sixty eight, right, Briston shot seventy Roy shot
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sixty nine, Road shot seventy one. Fuck, I'm right there.
So I'm buying a lot more Victor Hovlinstock. I love
watching him play that buttercut, watching him strike those irons
makes a lot of putts, makes a ton of birdies.
And if he's gonna chip like that, he already was
an ATM machine, Like to me. He's not all like
Patrick Cantlay like every single week, bringing it, bringing it,
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bringing it. Now he's figured out the Major. He's nothing
like Patrick Can'tley like. He is way better. So uh,
a lot of respect for Victor Hoblin. Just awesome PJA
championship led by Michael Block and Brooks Koepka. Okay, we'll
see everybody back on Tuesday with a football pod. Thanks
to my guy Holst on the audio, my guy James
on the video, and uh and yeah, let's have a
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good week. Maybe get out there, play a little golf,
enjoy your family, work hard, gotta pay the bills. Talk
to everyone soon. Audios