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April 7, 2021 35 min
I’ve known Gary Ware for over 10 years now. He’s a true expert when it comes to play – it’s not just associated with kids. In this conversation, I pick his brains to find out how play can help boost productivity. Day-to-day, Gary helps professionals level-up their confidence, creativity, and happiness using play. He is the Founder of Breakthrough Play, a corporate facilitator and keynote speaker with a decade of experience as a performer in improv theatre. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. BetterHelp offers you access to your own licensed professional therapist – all from the comfort of wherever you are. You can arrange weekly video chats or phone calls, text with your carefully curated counsellor, and do so at an affordable price. And anything you share is confidential. I’ve been using BetterHelp for a while and I am highly impressed. It’s been a huge help for me and I know it can be the same for you. Start living a happier life today with BetterHelp. As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting ( Give BetterHelp a try today. This episode is sponsored by TextExpander. With TextExpander, you can unlock your productivity with its many features. With TextExpander you can make everything you write repetitively available everywhere you type: text documents, spreadsheets, web forms, and more. Unlock your productivity with TextExpander. Visit ( for 20% off your first year. In this interview, we explore how so many of us have been conditioned to play after we work, purposeful play activities, cliffhangers, and the hustle culture. Talking Points The productive power of play (1:54) The different forms of play (5:46) Some distracting play ‘traps’ (13:04) The infinite versus the finite mindset (24:11) Practical applications of play you can do today (29:52) Quote "Play is an advantage." Helpful Links (Episode 90: Productivity & Play with Dr. Kirsten Milliken) (‘Playdhd’ by Dr. Kirsten Milliken) ‘ (Finite and Infinite Games’ by James Carse) (‘The Infinite Game’ by Simon Sinek) (‘Unmistakable’ by Sriniva Rao) (‘SuperBetter’ by Jane McGonigal) (The BIG Ready) (World Domination Summit) ( Want to discover some of the books mentioned on the podcast? (Check out Scribd, my reading app of choice.) Podcast Theme Song: (Nothing at All by Fictions (courtesy of Epidemic Sound)) If you enjoyed the episode, please leave a rating and/or review wherever you listened to the episode. And if you want to have easy access to the archives of the show and ensure you don't miss the new episodes to come then subscribe to the podcast in the app you're using – or you can do so on a variety of podcast platforms by clicking (here).
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