August 4, 2024 • 25 mins
This week on The Big League Podcast - a sombre Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad explains another frustrating loss this time to the Parramatta Eels at Mt Smart... the Warriors' top eight playoff hopes are now into the mathematicals.
Alex Powell is back to shut down rumours of Dylan Walker leaving the club. He and Nathan Limm attempt to answer the tough questions - how much blame lies with coach Andrew Webster?
How as a season so heavily anticipated gone so terribly wrong? Of course, it's not over.
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This week on The Big League Podcast, a somber chance
Nickel krook Star explains another frustrating loss, this time to
the Paramatta Eels at Mount Smart. Their top eight playoff
hopes are now into the mathematicals. Alex Powell is back
to answer the tough questions. How much blame lies with
coach Andrew Webster, How has a season so heavily anticipated
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gone so terribly wrong? Of course it's not over. My
name is Nathan Limb. Let's go good b LB. I
genuinely don't know what to say. It's happening again again.
I thought this was the Warriors new era. This team
was tipped by some as the minor premiers. This is
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the same group of players that finished top four last year,
the same group of players that went to the preliminary final.
No wait, it's a better group of players. They've also
got Roger Tui Vasaschek, Kurt Capewell and Chanelle Harris Tavita.
So how the hell do you explain this every time
they've come up against a bottom side, a team that's
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failed to pull it together at the best of times.
The Warriors have face planted Titans at Mount Smart, Titans
at the Gold Coast. The Eels hadn't won any games
away from home the entire season. Am I being disrespectful
to the Warrior's opposition?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I am. They lost six in a row. So where
does the blame lie? How much of this falls on
the shoulders of coach Andrew Webster. We've hardly ever criticized
Webster on this podcast, usually talking about specific players in
one off situations, but if a team is consistently failing
to show up on occasions in which they are clear favorites,
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part of that must be down to the culture set
by the coach. I love Andrew Webster. I think he's brilliant,
but things have not gone to plan this year and
there is only so much we can put down to
player injuries. Alex Powell, New Zealand Heralds right up, where
do you stand on all this?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
I mean, when you put it like that, I do
almost agree with you, like there does need to be
accountability from all areas of this club, including the coach.
You know, everything Andrew Webster has touched last year turned
to gold. But this year they look like they're doing
you know, they're not doing things too dissimilar, but as
the results just aren't there.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Is that the problem? Are they too similar to last year?
We haven't evolved since last year and everyone's gone, Actually,
you know, I've seen that short ball from Johnson before
and now we'll tackle the player and this time not
gonna whip that.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
That's a really great point, YEP, that would absolutely be.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It is the season done?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I mean I came on this podcast what two weeks
go now and we looked at the Raiders, Tigers, Eels
run and said if they don't win all three, that's
going to be trouble. And they've won one.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, so look they can make the act the season
is not over. If they win every game from here,
they will put themselves in contention. If you go through
there's like an NRL you know, results predictor thing and
you can pick the winger where it tells you the table.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
So with the results you want to happen happen. Yeah,
the Warriors wouldn't the inter Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So if the Warriors, if you go through and do
it so the Warriors win every game, and then you
just pick the higher ranked team for all the other games.
The Warriors will finish one point outside the eight. Chris
Reeve did this yesterday when were sitting in the news room.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I did this a couple of weeks ago and had
the Warriors six. So that shows how close these margins are.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, so they are needing upsets from around the table,
and I suppose the only good thing about this is
the teams they are playing over the next few weeks.
Otherwise they're competing with forty eight. So a two point
when you know you're actually depriving another team of two
points as well. But again, other results need to go
the Warriors way. This is unfortunately familiar territory. But let's
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get into the somewhat depressing highlights. Eels thirty, Warriors twenty.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
ARSI Brown quick Hands again, Parameta charts on.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The lane, tie in the corner.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yes, I'm gonna throw Congo scores Well, still thought to come.
Here's Joey Lussack Heaven to Go story, Johnson for Kids,
Harris to be the Knights, quick Heads parents Tooey baser
check and the Charter. The short dropout Paramtal with position
short ball. Here's a chart for USI right up the park,
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Hey Scots, a bit.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Door for Brown.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Here's a chance for paramedter up the park to Lundy
scores under the posts.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Now Brown Brown through.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
The other side. Brown need some support. Follow the inside
Hans con Gavison. He'll score for Paramount with little Blake
Johnson open space here for the Warriors. Nicole Klock's dad
get Stone, he'll score Johnson. Here's a part of Nilney
Scots catching the crossfield. What's Eddy's Elizabeth gets the bouts
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Hell get the try. The Warriors will have the final
side full time thirty voice. That's we eat Parametta win
this one here at Orford.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Audio courtesy of sky Sport.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
The Big League Podcast podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You' seld Herald writer and friend of The Big League
Podcast Christopher Reef have a chat to Charles Nickel cookstart
in the sheds after the game. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Sean's first came back in a few weeks, Segas Versta
well Man, how'd you feel out there?
Speaker 8 (05:59):
How's the body going You body's feeling pretty good, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
May It's it's a little bit hard. The feelings it's
just a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
The results, saying, apart from the result, bodies bodies find thanks.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
I guess looking at tonight, you know, eras were really
sort of the vane of you guys let the eels
in and they took advantage. I guess looking back over
the last few weeks, how frustrating has that been to
watch on the sidelines, to see the team I guess
struggle with errors.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
You know, I feel like we've been our worst enemy
this year and that game was, you know, perfect, a
clear picture of that. We need to be a lot
better with those, with those, with the with the individuals,
and you know, I think it would have helped us
collectively as a team. So yeah, bad pool, but to swallow,
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but something that needs to be had, and we're going
to have a hard look at ourselves.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
We got a few big games coming up. I guess
the mood and the team. What does tonight's result mean
for I guess the context of the season moving forward.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Gotta win, gotta win. We need to win.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
These store an opportunity we feel for us to be
able to play September footy, and we want to be there.
We know that we are capable of being there, and
you know, we just need to finish. I think we've
got four more games to go, and yeah, we're gonna
have that self belief.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And it is there. It is there.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
We just need to cut out those areas and that'll.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Go a long way to helping us get the win.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
I guess on the other side of that, those four
games against top eight opponents, do you see these I
guess there's four point games. You know, you take a
win off one of these guys, and you know, all
of a sudden, things start looking better for yourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
On the table. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
Those are things that you know, we're now in control of.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
What it's always been in our control.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Really, if I'm being honest, we've had a lot of
games that we've we've lost many a couple of points
or you know, by by margins, and you know, again
it's we've been at.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The forefront of that.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
So I'm we're going to fix up, you know, things individually.
I know that it'll come together collectively.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
From tonight.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I guess what do you want to see the boys
take out of this or learn from it?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, it was a hard one tonight.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I think for me, what I'd love the voice to
do is to go home, enjoy the time with their families.
It's it's a good opportunity to to really look at
our loved ones and just enjoy the moment. Enjoy the moment,
and when we come into training next it'll be that'll
be the opportunity to look at ourselves, give ourselves a
hard word and build.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Build. We need to build.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
We need to look to to improve and we need
to be better.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
We need to I guess, just lastly, where where was
it that the Eels were able to exploit you guys tonight?
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Yeah, yes, I guess all over the all over the
shot mate. It's it's a team sport, and you know
we collectively we were good enough. So I think we've
got to bring it down to the individual and if
individually we can fix up those those errors, those errors,
and it all comes together as a team. And that's
that's the beautifulaying the team spoil of someone in Max
and their the He's got to be someone there to
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back up, back them up.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And yeah, it wasn't our best camp tone.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
This is the Big League Podcast, This is our Yeah,
the Big League Podcast on the worries bad wagons since
day one.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Now we like to hold ourselves accountable on the Big
League Podcast, and unfortunately this week it's my turn to
eat some humble pie after I previewed the Eels game
like this. Let me make no mistake when I tell
you this. The Eels are rubbish. They sit seconds to
last on the ladder. Four wins, fourteen losses. They've lost
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six in a row. They sacked he'd coach Brad Arthur
midway through the season. They are without half back Mitchell Moses,
who's undergone surgery on a bicep rupture. He is out
for the season.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
You don't want to throw anything out there this season
because it's just been one of those seasons. But you're
right one to thirteen they should have too much for yours.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I love how you are like the voice of reason.
They're just to Let's not write them off. Let's not
throw anything out there this season because it has been
one of these Why did I have to sound so
arrogant about it?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Oh? Look, this is between arrogance and confidence. You're confident
in the Warriors as they should have won that game
and we all know that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Let's go through this game in a little bit more detail. Honestly,
I thought they started okay. I thought the attack looked
pretty organized, It looked pretty dynamic. They just weren't punching
through any holes in those first twenty minutes.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
We said this last week, didn't we They start well
but don't score and that will kill you at this level.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean Seann Johnson Obviously coming into halfback after
all those weeks out, he had a couple of big
defensive plays early on. I thought the is kicking during
the game in general play was good, His bombs were threatening.
Obviously he had a bit of a shocker off the tee,
but first game back he finished with three triasis. I
thought he played pretty well on the whole, but just
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as we moved into the back half of that first half,
and obviously in the second half on one defensive eras
and silly mistakes again story of the season. Mile of
Graham Tulfa and Ali Lautao I thought looked really good
with ball in hands, six and four tackle breaks respectively,
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but they're defensively shaky and the one on one tackles
there were two tries there where just got blown past
some instant try for the Eels. I mean it's so
frustrating to watch.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I mean, look, the NRL is not a young man's game.
You do need guys with experience. You need guys who
know what they're doing, and unfortunately we've got two guys
in those positions who are lacking that experience.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean talk about the eras though, like you can
hear the frustrating We're gonna hear from a clip a
few clips from Andrew Webster in a second that I've
compiled into a montage, rather morbid montage from the presser.
But it's so harrowing to see the Warriors attacking inside
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the Eels and dropping it on the first play, dropping
it in a try scoring position. Premiership teams just don't
do it well.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
They're called coach killers for a reason, aren't they. You know,
these sorts of mistakes and I'm not talking about in
this instance, but these are the sort of things that
you know, turn results and in the end get coaches sacked.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And you talked about the obviously the youthfulness of Tala
and Moorla, Graham Tulfa, but even Kurk Capewell fell off
four tackles. I mean, this is experience man, Kirk Capwole's
done everything. And when you've got your leaders, your senior
players in the team who are also failing to meet
you know, you're basic NRL standards, that's a tone setter.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
You're right, And it goes back to what you said
for about Andrew webisode. Where are the standards being set here?
Are they being set at the top and going down
through the coaches? Are they being set by I mean,
now that toy virus is out, what does the leadership
on field look like? What does the leadership on the
training ground look like? Is there anyone taking guys by
the scruff of the neck and saying no, this is
not good enough. As that of Mitch Barnett characteristic I mean,
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because I look at him on the surface and think, yeah,
that's absolutely something he'd do. But do we know that
he's doing that now as Sean Johnson doing it as
the most senior player in this club. Probably I'd probably
say not because he's been out for weeks and that
was his first game back. So there are just these big,
you know, not holes on the field, but off the field.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
The point that really was just harrowing for me looking
back at that game was Dayton on Narsis try as
before halftime off a Johnson drop goal a dropout rather
the defensive line should have been set in Clint Gutherson
just ran left across the field and just pired a
short ball to Arci who went straight through a hole.
That should not happen off a short dropout when you
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all lined up on I mean, it's.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
What it comes up all the time when the restarts. Yeah,
just when the restart controllable, I.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Mean, how do they where do they go from there?
What do they need to fix?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean look, I think Andrew Webster and co.
Can't answer these questions. I don't know how its. Like
I said, on the surface, that doesn't seem to be
too much different, But maybe that is the problem that
teams don't know what they're.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Going to do.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Here is the compilation of Andrew Webster from the press conference. Yeah,
just listen to us. We made an error.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
We didn't defend it and drop their bundle, and then
we just kept compounding it from there on. And I
didn't see that resilience and wanting to make those one
on one tackles to save those tries. We're putting pressure
them defensively, we're going after them. We make him kick
from their end, and then on last play we charged
the ballgame and knocking off. That's one one of many.
But Ben, Okay, no one's perfect. I'm going to defend
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the next one. And I feel like we dropped our
bundle just to how many dumb things we saw tonight,
like things that just weren't good enough, just when r
else standard.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I'd tear the sentence and that that really hurts me
as and now I am blowing the line between being
a fan and being a journalist. But we didn't see
the resilience that was I think the thing that made
Warriors fans most proud last year is that that resilience
They didn't, you know, because that's part of Warriors fan.
You know that things are going to go against you.
You're going to get the dodgy calls, you're going to
get due to street decisions, just like oh, he's banned
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for four weeks, you know. But being able to put
that aside last year and just keep going and you know,
get a top four finish and gets a preliminary final,
you know, that's what made the fans or go, Yeah,
this is our team. Again and we've not seen that
this year.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know what else we haven't seen this year fans
leaving before full time.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I don't think obviously there's going to be so much
made about, you know, the fans, and you get a
lot of course rempic I remember the Warriors were meant
to be a threat to rugby, but this is genuinely
this is something real that's happening at the Warriors now,
like they have created something. You know, I was getting
into one with a colleague of ours who I won't
name on here about why the Warriors were selling out
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each week and the Blues won't, and the Blues are
a championship team, and it's because at the Warriors you
feel like you're part of something. You know, it's not
rugby where you go and you expect to be entertained.
A lot of these Warriors fans had to suffer, you know,
and it's great that so many new people are turning
up each week and they've sold out every game and
they'll probably keep doing that next year as well.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Blues fans have had to suffer too, I'll just point
that out, but you're right, you're right, it's that sort
of FUNO aspect, almost like the singing of the team
song after the game. It's it's a togetherness that you
feel when you're at Mount Smart and you're in that
sort of what you see someone on the street and
Warriors kit and to then look at your team have
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that kind of a performance. It hurts because you make
it part of you. If you're walking around in Warriors jusey,
it's part of your identity. You're you're you are identifying
with that club.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
I mean, I think the cool thing here is that
we don't often come face to face with too many
fans from rival clubs, like we are all suffering together.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
It's not like you you know, if you you know
you support English football and you you know your team losers,
and then you're immediately someone in a rival kit. We
see someone in a rival kit. Sorry, you feel it
even more, but I mean the Warriors are suffering as one.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Now Big League.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Podcast, all right to our rumor desk Alex Powell. We've
seen some murmurings on social media that Dylan Walker after obviously,
you know, not long after Jane Stevango announced that he
would be this will be his last season with the club.
His bull brother Dylan Walker rumors he's asked for a
release from the club due to personal reasons. Do you
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have any information on this right?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
So, like you say, this came out on the same
day that it was revealed Jazz withing the club. I
put my journalist hat on as opposed to my warrior's
fan hat message. Dylan said, hey, mate, this is what
we're hearing is he can filml and I and he
categorically confirmed.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That is not true. So he's not leaving the club.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I mean, look that he's contract until the end of
next year, which means as of November he can negotiate,
so that didn't come up. He might want to leave
the club, but he will not actively seek a release.
That means he won't plan twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That's what we do on the Big League Podcast. Thank you,
Alex Powell. Right. The Warriors face the Dolphins on Sunday,
a nine day turnaround, which is good because I feel
like they need it. They need a reset. Hit the
reset button. They beat the Dolphins twenty four to twenty
with a Hodge Podge team. Way back in May. That
was around the time to Mighty Martin was really turning
it on at half back that was coming off the
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win over the Panthers in Magic Round. The Dolphins are
coming off a forty to thirty four loss to the Roosters.
They sit ninth overall with nine wins ten losses, one
of the teams vying for the eighth. So, as we
heard in the interview between Cross Reeve and Charles Nikal
course earlier, kind of a four point game, the Dolphins
have been good this year out of his power. I mean,
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they've been a little bit up and down, but overall
they've been certainly more solid than the Warriors. How do
they approach this game?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I mean, I think first off, they're going to want
to right the wrongs of that loss. Amount smart, aren't they.
They like men like we was saying about the Warriors
indo the eals, the Dolphins shouldn't have lost that game,
So they'll want to go out there and prove that
they are aside. I mean, the fact that the top
eight's on the line will add another string to their bow.
They'll want to get up, can get mathematically into the
eight and into finals for the first time, because let's
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not forget they are very young as a club. But
also you look at you know, This is wayn Bennett's
last year at the Dolphins foundation coach as an NRL side.
Obviously the Dolphins existed before that. They'll want to get
up here. They'll want to send their coach out on
a high. They've got players that should be playing finals football.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And the Warriors away from home as well. That's we've
only got one more home game. So that's just another
thing that I guess I have to contend with because
the Dolphins fans will really get into it. They're on
the version that they've never met made the eight in
an NRL competition here before, They're only in their second season,
they're at home. It's all on the line. The Warriors
are struggling. This is a game the Dolphins shouldn't lose.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
No, but let's not also forget the Warriors are very
well supported in Brisbane.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
No, a very very good point. Now, last week we
had obviously a few returns named as Shawn Johnson named
in the team. Chance Cookstar was back at fullback, but
Luke Metcalf played his first New South Wales Cup game
since returning from a surgery on his leg fracture way
early in the season. Back in round four. He picked
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that up, and so he played alongside to Martin Martin
in the halves in the forty six to ten demolition
of the Eels reserve grades side. He played the first
half and was rested the secondest stance showed fifty five
meters from eight runs, five tackle breaks, seventeen kick receipts,
four tackles without a miss, seventy meters from two kicks
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and no errors. They were thirty zero up after thirty
one minutes. So I would say that's a resounding success.
Alex Powell, how will I guess? Do you expect Luke
Metcalf to be named? I don't think Janelle Harris Tavitas
been playing badly. Obviously off the tee. He had a
miss a couple of weeks ago, but apart from that,
I think he's played pretty well, apart from a couple
of defensive eras. Maybe do you expect Metcalf to be
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straight back in there.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Just because it was only forty minutes? I'd probably say not.
I might think, oh, really well, I mean, look, you
can't play one half of reserve great and expect to
be ready for the NRL at this point in the season.
The thing I will give Luke Metcalff in his favor though,
as I do think all up here is Sean Johnson's
best partner. I think those two compliment each other the
best out of all four Warriors halves. You know. Johnson
wants to sit back and manage Metcalff wants to get
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the born hand, take it on, run at it, you know.
So I think if that's what they think they need,
then that's what they'll do.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I feel bad for Tomainie Martin too, because he's effectively
been dropped there, which is obviously given up on the
Johnson Martin combination, which I think is the right move
at this point in the season, just because it hasn't
worked so far and they don't have time to get
it working. So I'd love to see Luke Metcalf back
into starting side. But you do make a very good
point about probably needing a full game of New South
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Wales Cup before he's ready for the NRL as well.
So of course the alternative is he starts this weekend
and we have Chanelle on the interchange and Chanell plays
the sort of dummy five eighth interchangeable role, so that
could be a possibility as well.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah, I absolutely think that's you know, that's a very
good option to have. You know, Schanell's probably the most
verstile player in this team.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The Big League Podcast on the Warriors Bad Wagons since
day one. The big League Podcast for the biggest league fans.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, Alex Pout Quick Fire Predictions, Round twenty three. I'm
going to come at you with eight games. You're going
to tell me who's your winner and why. First up,
Rabbit O Storm Storm.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'm not gonna get into we do this every week.
I think the Storm a better team.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Just we'll pick the Storm, Titans, Sharks.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I'd really liked the look at the Titans the last
few weeks. I think at home, I think they'll do it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Titans absolutely demolished the Broncos forty six eighteen. They've really
come alive in the second half of the season. The Sharks, well,
they beat the Barons twenty points to six. The Titans
are at home, you game with the Titans.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I'm going Titans.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I'm going to go with the Titans. I can't believe
I'm saying this, but Titans to beat the Sharks on
the Gold Coast Eels Panthers.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Out of the West. Let's go Panthers.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm going to agree with you there, Panthers getting the
job done over Newcastle on Sunday evening. Don't think the
Earls will have enough for them. They think Cleary scoring
the winning try. Raiders Seagulls.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I'm going to go Raiders.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
See the Raiders had a close lost to the Bulldogs.
The Seagulls coming off the bye again. Two teams in
and around that top eight, I'm gonna disagree with you
here and go for the Seagulls to win this one.
Seventh spot on the lader, Dragon's Bulldogs, Bulldogs, Bulldogs, they're
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having a season. Man Camera s Eraldo Coach of the
Year Swan.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
He has to be. I mean, I don't think anyone
else gets close to him, and you look at where
he's you know, Andrew Webster came in straight away from
that Panthers system and you know took the words the
top four one coach of the year. Cameras are. They
had a really tough year last year. They had players
that they probably shouldn't have signed on money they shouldn't
have spent, and he's really just managed to turn it around.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Bulldogs fifth on the ladder and the Dragons are eighth.
Also in that fight, I'm going to go with the
Bulldogs as well, and Dolphins versus the Warriors, Alex Powell,
They've still got all the players back.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Look, I'm I don't want to just be deluded and
say Warriors, but I think that's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Going to do.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
You're going to go for the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I'm going to go for the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I'm going to pick the Dolphins. It pains me to
say it, but given the circumstances, given that they're at home.
Although actually it would be like the Warriors to completely
mess up the game, They're expected to win, head into
the tough one and produce an absolute master class. So really,
who knows? Knights Tigers?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Probably the Knights, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I'm going to go with the Knights as well to
win that one. Also in the fight for the top eight,
well a competition. Thank you so much Alex Pale for
your time, you're wisdom, your insight on the Big League
Podcast this week. Please follow and rate the podcast. We
will be back next Monday. My name is Nathan Limb.
Have a fantastic week.
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This week on The Big League Podcast, a somber chance
Nickel krook Star explains another frustrating loss, this time to
the Paramatta Eels at Mount Smart. Their top eight playoff
hopes are now into the mathematicals. Alex Powell is back
to answer the tough questions. How much blame lies with
coach Andrew Webster, How has a season so heavily anticipated
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gone so terribly wrong? Of course it's not over. My
name is Nathan Limb. Let's go good b LB. I
genuinely don't know what to say. It's happening again again.
I thought this was the Warriors new era. This team
was tipped by some as the minor premiers. This is
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the same group of players that finished top four last year,
the same group of players that went to the preliminary final.
No wait, it's a better group of players. They've also
got Roger Tui Vasaschek, Kurt Capewell and Chanelle Harris Tavita.
So how the hell do you explain this every time
they've come up against a bottom side, a team that's
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failed to pull it together at the best of times.
The Warriors have face planted Titans at Mount Smart, Titans
at the Gold Coast. The Eels hadn't won any games
away from home the entire season. Am I being disrespectful
to the Warrior's opposition?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I am. They lost six in a row. So where
does the blame lie? How much of this falls on
the shoulders of coach Andrew Webster. We've hardly ever criticized
Webster on this podcast, usually talking about specific players in
one off situations, but if a team is consistently failing
to show up on occasions in which they are clear favorites,
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part of that must be down to the culture set
by the coach. I love Andrew Webster. I think he's brilliant,
but things have not gone to plan this year and
there is only so much we can put down to
player injuries. Alex Powell, New Zealand Heralds right up, where
do you stand on all this?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
I mean, when you put it like that, I do
almost agree with you, like there does need to be
accountability from all areas of this club, including the coach.
You know, everything Andrew Webster has touched last year turned
to gold. But this year they look like they're doing
you know, they're not doing things too dissimilar, but as
the results just aren't there.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Is that the problem? Are they too similar to last year?
We haven't evolved since last year and everyone's gone, Actually,
you know, I've seen that short ball from Johnson before
and now we'll tackle the player and this time not
gonna whip that.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
That's a really great point, YEP, that would absolutely be.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It is the season done?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I mean I came on this podcast what two weeks
go now and we looked at the Raiders, Tigers, Eels
run and said if they don't win all three, that's
going to be trouble. And they've won one.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, so look they can make the act the season
is not over. If they win every game from here,
they will put themselves in contention. If you go through
there's like an NRL you know, results predictor thing and
you can pick the winger where it tells you the table.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
So with the results you want to happen happen. Yeah,
the Warriors wouldn't the inter Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
So if the Warriors, if you go through and do
it so the Warriors win every game, and then you
just pick the higher ranked team for all the other games.
The Warriors will finish one point outside the eight. Chris
Reeve did this yesterday when were sitting in the news room.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I did this a couple of weeks ago and had
the Warriors six. So that shows how close these margins are.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, so they are needing upsets from around the table,
and I suppose the only good thing about this is
the teams they are playing over the next few weeks.
Otherwise they're competing with forty eight. So a two point
when you know you're actually depriving another team of two
points as well. But again, other results need to go
the Warriors way. This is unfortunately familiar territory. But let's
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get into the somewhat depressing highlights. Eels thirty, Warriors twenty.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
ARSI Brown quick Hands again, Parameta charts on.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The lane, tie in the corner.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yes, I'm gonna throw Congo scores Well, still thought to come.
Here's Joey Lussack Heaven to Go story, Johnson for Kids,
Harris to be the Knights, quick Heads parents Tooey baser
check and the Charter. The short dropout Paramtal with position
short ball. Here's a chart for USI right up the park,
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Hey Scots, a bit.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Door for Brown.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Here's a chance for paramedter up the park to Lundy
scores under the posts.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Now Brown Brown through.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
The other side. Brown need some support. Follow the inside
Hans con Gavison. He'll score for Paramount with little Blake
Johnson open space here for the Warriors. Nicole Klock's dad
get Stone, he'll score Johnson. Here's a part of Nilney
Scots catching the crossfield. What's Eddy's Elizabeth gets the bouts
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Hell get the try. The Warriors will have the final
side full time thirty voice. That's we eat Parametta win
this one here at Orford.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Audio courtesy of sky Sport.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
The Big League Podcast podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You' seld Herald writer and friend of The Big League
Podcast Christopher Reef have a chat to Charles Nickel cookstart
in the sheds after the game. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Sean's first came back in a few weeks, Segas Versta
well Man, how'd you feel out there?
Speaker 8 (05:59):
How's the body going You body's feeling pretty good, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
May It's it's a little bit hard. The feelings it's
just a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
The results, saying, apart from the result, bodies bodies find thanks.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
I guess looking at tonight, you know, eras were really
sort of the vane of you guys let the eels
in and they took advantage. I guess looking back over
the last few weeks, how frustrating has that been to
watch on the sidelines, to see the team I guess
struggle with errors.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, it's.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
You know, I feel like we've been our worst enemy
this year and that game was, you know, perfect, a
clear picture of that. We need to be a lot
better with those, with those, with the with the individuals,
and you know, I think it would have helped us
collectively as a team. So yeah, bad pool, but to swallow,
(06:52):
but something that needs to be had, and we're going
to have a hard look at ourselves.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
We got a few big games coming up. I guess
the mood and the team. What does tonight's result mean
for I guess the context of the season moving forward.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Gotta win, gotta win. We need to win.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
These store an opportunity we feel for us to be
able to play September footy, and we want to be there.
We know that we are capable of being there, and
you know, we just need to finish. I think we've
got four more games to go, and yeah, we're gonna
have that self belief.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And it is there. It is there.
Speaker 8 (07:24):
We just need to cut out those areas and that'll.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Go a long way to helping us get the win.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
I guess on the other side of that, those four
games against top eight opponents, do you see these I
guess there's four point games. You know, you take a
win off one of these guys, and you know, all
of a sudden, things start looking better for yourselves.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
On the table. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
Those are things that you know, we're now in control of.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
What it's always been in our control.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
Really, if I'm being honest, we've had a lot of
games that we've we've lost many a couple of points
or you know, by by margins, and you know, again
it's we've been at.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The forefront of that.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
So I'm we're going to fix up, you know, things individually.
I know that it'll come together collectively.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
From tonight.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I guess what do you want to see the boys
take out of this or learn from it?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, it was a hard one tonight.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I think for me, what I'd love the voice to
do is to go home, enjoy the time with their families.
It's it's a good opportunity to to really look at
our loved ones and just enjoy the moment. Enjoy the moment,
and when we come into training next it'll be that'll
be the opportunity to look at ourselves, give ourselves a
hard word and build.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Build. We need to build.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
We need to look to to improve and we need
to be better.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
We need to I guess, just lastly, where where was
it that the Eels were able to exploit you guys tonight?
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Yeah, yes, I guess all over the all over the
shot mate. It's it's a team sport, and you know
we collectively we were good enough. So I think we've
got to bring it down to the individual and if
individually we can fix up those those errors, those errors,
and it all comes together as a team. And that's
that's the beautifulaying the team spoil of someone in Max
and their the He's got to be someone there to
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back up, back them up.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And yeah, it wasn't our best camp tone.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
This is the Big League Podcast, This is our Yeah,
the Big League Podcast on the worries bad wagons since
day one.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Now we like to hold ourselves accountable on the Big
League Podcast, and unfortunately this week it's my turn to
eat some humble pie after I previewed the Eels game
like this. Let me make no mistake when I tell
you this. The Eels are rubbish. They sit seconds to
last on the ladder. Four wins, fourteen losses. They've lost
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six in a row. They sacked he'd coach Brad Arthur
midway through the season. They are without half back Mitchell Moses,
who's undergone surgery on a bicep rupture. He is out
for the season.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
You don't want to throw anything out there this season
because it's just been one of those seasons. But you're
right one to thirteen they should have too much for yours.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I love how you are like the voice of reason.
They're just to Let's not write them off. Let's not
throw anything out there this season because it has been
one of these Why did I have to sound so
arrogant about it?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Oh? Look, this is between arrogance and confidence. You're confident
in the Warriors as they should have won that game
and we all know that.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Let's go through this game in a little bit more detail. Honestly,
I thought they started okay. I thought the attack looked
pretty organized, It looked pretty dynamic. They just weren't punching
through any holes in those first twenty minutes.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
We said this last week, didn't we They start well
but don't score and that will kill you at this level.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean Seann Johnson Obviously coming into halfback after
all those weeks out, he had a couple of big
defensive plays early on. I thought the is kicking during
the game in general play was good, His bombs were threatening.
Obviously he had a bit of a shocker off the tee,
but first game back he finished with three triasis. I
thought he played pretty well on the whole, but just
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as we moved into the back half of that first half,
and obviously in the second half on one defensive eras
and silly mistakes again story of the season. Mile of
Graham Tulfa and Ali Lautao I thought looked really good
with ball in hands, six and four tackle breaks respectively,
(11:22):
but they're defensively shaky and the one on one tackles
there were two tries there where just got blown past
some instant try for the Eels. I mean it's so
frustrating to watch.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I mean, look, the NRL is not a young man's game.
You do need guys with experience. You need guys who
know what they're doing, and unfortunately we've got two guys
in those positions who are lacking that experience.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I mean talk about the eras though, like you can
hear the frustrating We're gonna hear from a clip a
few clips from Andrew Webster in a second that I've
compiled into a montage, rather morbid montage from the presser.
But it's so harrowing to see the Warriors attacking inside
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the Eels and dropping it on the first play, dropping
it in a try scoring position. Premiership teams just don't
do it well.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
They're called coach killers for a reason, aren't they. You know,
these sorts of mistakes and I'm not talking about in
this instance, but these are the sort of things that
you know, turn results and in the end get coaches sacked.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And you talked about the obviously the youthfulness of Tala
and Moorla, Graham Tulfa, but even Kurk Capewell fell off
four tackles. I mean, this is experience man, Kirk Capwole's
done everything. And when you've got your leaders, your senior
players in the team who are also failing to meet
you know, you're basic NRL standards, that's a tone setter.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
You're right, And it goes back to what you said
for about Andrew webisode. Where are the standards being set here?
Are they being set at the top and going down
through the coaches? Are they being set by I mean,
now that toy virus is out, what does the leadership
on field look like? What does the leadership on the
training ground look like? Is there anyone taking guys by
the scruff of the neck and saying no, this is
not good enough. As that of Mitch Barnett characteristic I mean,
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because I look at him on the surface and think, yeah,
that's absolutely something he'd do. But do we know that
he's doing that now as Sean Johnson doing it as
the most senior player in this club. Probably I'd probably
say not because he's been out for weeks and that
was his first game back. So there are just these big,
you know, not holes on the field, but off the field.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
The point that really was just harrowing for me looking
back at that game was Dayton on Narsis try as
before halftime off a Johnson drop goal a dropout rather
the defensive line should have been set in Clint Gutherson
just ran left across the field and just pired a
short ball to Arci who went straight through a hole.
That should not happen off a short dropout when you
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all lined up on I mean, it's.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
What it comes up all the time when the restarts. Yeah,
just when the restart controllable, I.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Mean, how do they where do they go from there?
What do they need to fix?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, I mean look, I think Andrew Webster and co.
Can't answer these questions. I don't know how its. Like
I said, on the surface, that doesn't seem to be
too much different, But maybe that is the problem that
teams don't know what they're.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
Going to do.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Here is the compilation of Andrew Webster from the press conference. Yeah,
just listen to us. We made an error.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
We didn't defend it and drop their bundle, and then
we just kept compounding it from there on. And I
didn't see that resilience and wanting to make those one
on one tackles to save those tries. We're putting pressure
them defensively, we're going after them. We make him kick
from their end, and then on last play we charged
the ballgame and knocking off. That's one one of many.
But Ben, Okay, no one's perfect. I'm going to defend
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the next one. And I feel like we dropped our
bundle just to how many dumb things we saw tonight,
like things that just weren't good enough, just when r
else standard.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I'd tear the sentence and that that really hurts me
as and now I am blowing the line between being
a fan and being a journalist. But we didn't see
the resilience that was I think the thing that made
Warriors fans most proud last year is that that resilience
They didn't, you know, because that's part of Warriors fan.
You know that things are going to go against you.
You're going to get the dodgy calls, you're going to
get due to street decisions, just like oh, he's banned
(15:16):
for four weeks, you know. But being able to put
that aside last year and just keep going and you know,
get a top four finish and gets a preliminary final,
you know, that's what made the fans or go, Yeah,
this is our team. Again and we've not seen that
this year.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know what else we haven't seen this year fans
leaving before full time.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I don't think obviously there's going to be so much
made about, you know, the fans, and you get a
lot of course rempic I remember the Warriors were meant
to be a threat to rugby, but this is genuinely
this is something real that's happening at the Warriors now,
like they have created something. You know, I was getting
into one with a colleague of ours who I won't
name on here about why the Warriors were selling out
(15:56):
each week and the Blues won't, and the Blues are
a championship team, and it's because at the Warriors you
feel like you're part of something. You know, it's not
rugby where you go and you expect to be entertained.
A lot of these Warriors fans had to suffer, you know,
and it's great that so many new people are turning
up each week and they've sold out every game and
they'll probably keep doing that next year as well.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Blues fans have had to suffer too, I'll just point
that out, but you're right, you're right, it's that sort
of FUNO aspect, almost like the singing of the team
song after the game. It's it's a togetherness that you
feel when you're at Mount Smart and you're in that
sort of what you see someone on the street and
Warriors kit and to then look at your team have
(16:39):
that kind of a performance. It hurts because you make
it part of you. If you're walking around in Warriors jusey,
it's part of your identity. You're you're you are identifying
with that club.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
I mean, I think the cool thing here is that
we don't often come face to face with too many
fans from rival clubs, like we are all suffering together.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
It's not like you you know, if you you know
you support English football and you you know your team losers,
and then you're immediately someone in a rival kit. We
see someone in a rival kit. Sorry, you feel it
even more, but I mean the Warriors are suffering as one.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Now Big League.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Podcast, all right to our rumor desk Alex Powell. We've
seen some murmurings on social media that Dylan Walker after obviously,
you know, not long after Jane Stevango announced that he
would be this will be his last season with the club.
His bull brother Dylan Walker rumors he's asked for a
release from the club due to personal reasons. Do you
(17:30):
have any information on this right?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
So, like you say, this came out on the same
day that it was revealed Jazz withing the club. I
put my journalist hat on as opposed to my warrior's
fan hat message. Dylan said, hey, mate, this is what
we're hearing is he can filml and I and he
categorically confirmed.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That is not true. So he's not leaving the club.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I mean, look that he's contract until the end of
next year, which means as of November he can negotiate,
so that didn't come up. He might want to leave
the club, but he will not actively seek a release.
That means he won't plan twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That's what we do on the Big League Podcast. Thank you,
Alex Powell. Right. The Warriors face the Dolphins on Sunday,
a nine day turnaround, which is good because I feel
like they need it. They need a reset. Hit the
reset button. They beat the Dolphins twenty four to twenty
with a Hodge Podge team. Way back in May. That
was around the time to Mighty Martin was really turning
it on at half back that was coming off the
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win over the Panthers in Magic Round. The Dolphins are
coming off a forty to thirty four loss to the Roosters.
They sit ninth overall with nine wins ten losses, one
of the teams vying for the eighth. So, as we
heard in the interview between Cross Reeve and Charles Nikal
course earlier, kind of a four point game, the Dolphins
have been good this year out of his power. I mean,
(18:47):
they've been a little bit up and down, but overall
they've been certainly more solid than the Warriors. How do
they approach this game?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I mean, I think first off, they're going to want
to right the wrongs of that loss. Amount smart, aren't they.
They like men like we was saying about the Warriors
indo the eals, the Dolphins shouldn't have lost that game,
So they'll want to go out there and prove that
they are aside. I mean, the fact that the top
eight's on the line will add another string to their bow.
They'll want to get up, can get mathematically into the
eight and into finals for the first time, because let's
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not forget they are very young as a club. But
also you look at you know, This is wayn Bennett's
last year at the Dolphins foundation coach as an NRL side.
Obviously the Dolphins existed before that. They'll want to get
up here. They'll want to send their coach out on
a high. They've got players that should be playing finals football.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And the Warriors away from home as well. That's we've
only got one more home game. So that's just another
thing that I guess I have to contend with because
the Dolphins fans will really get into it. They're on
the version that they've never met made the eight in
an NRL competition here before, They're only in their second season,
they're at home. It's all on the line. The Warriors
are struggling. This is a game the Dolphins shouldn't lose.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
No, but let's not also forget the Warriors are very
well supported in Brisbane.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
No, a very very good point. Now, last week we
had obviously a few returns named as Shawn Johnson named
in the team. Chance Cookstar was back at fullback, but
Luke Metcalf played his first New South Wales Cup game
since returning from a surgery on his leg fracture way
early in the season. Back in round four. He picked
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that up, and so he played alongside to Martin Martin
in the halves in the forty six to ten demolition
of the Eels reserve grades side. He played the first
half and was rested the secondest stance showed fifty five
meters from eight runs, five tackle breaks, seventeen kick receipts,
four tackles without a miss, seventy meters from two kicks
(20:36):
and no errors. They were thirty zero up after thirty
one minutes. So I would say that's a resounding success.
Alex Powell, how will I guess? Do you expect Luke
Metcalf to be named? I don't think Janelle Harris Tavitas
been playing badly. Obviously off the tee. He had a
miss a couple of weeks ago, but apart from that,
I think he's played pretty well, apart from a couple
of defensive eras. Maybe do you expect Metcalf to be
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straight back in there.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Just because it was only forty minutes? I'd probably say not.
I might think, oh, really well, I mean, look, you
can't play one half of reserve great and expect to
be ready for the NRL at this point in the season.
The thing I will give Luke Metcalff in his favor though,
as I do think all up here is Sean Johnson's
best partner. I think those two compliment each other the
best out of all four Warriors halves. You know. Johnson
wants to sit back and manage Metcalff wants to get
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the born hand, take it on, run at it, you know.
So I think if that's what they think they need,
then that's what they'll do.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I feel bad for Tomainie Martin too, because he's effectively
been dropped there, which is obviously given up on the
Johnson Martin combination, which I think is the right move
at this point in the season, just because it hasn't
worked so far and they don't have time to get
it working. So I'd love to see Luke Metcalf back
into starting side. But you do make a very good
point about probably needing a full game of New South
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Wales Cup before he's ready for the NRL as well.
So of course the alternative is he starts this weekend
and we have Chanelle on the interchange and Chanell plays
the sort of dummy five eighth interchangeable role, so that
could be a possibility as well.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Yeah, I absolutely think that's you know, that's a very
good option to have. You know, Schanell's probably the most
verstile player in this team.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The Big League Podcast on the Warriors Bad Wagons since
day one. The big League Podcast for the biggest league fans.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Okay, Alex Pout Quick Fire Predictions, Round twenty three. I'm
going to come at you with eight games. You're going
to tell me who's your winner and why. First up,
Rabbit O Storm Storm.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I'm not gonna get into we do this every week.
I think the Storm a better team.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Just we'll pick the Storm, Titans, Sharks.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I'd really liked the look at the Titans the last
few weeks. I think at home, I think they'll do it.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Titans absolutely demolished the Broncos forty six eighteen. They've really
come alive in the second half of the season. The Sharks, well,
they beat the Barons twenty points to six. The Titans
are at home, you game with the Titans.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I'm going Titans.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I'm going to go with the Titans. I can't believe
I'm saying this, but Titans to beat the Sharks on
the Gold Coast Eels Panthers.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Out of the West. Let's go Panthers.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I'm going to agree with you there, Panthers getting the
job done over Newcastle on Sunday evening. Don't think the
Earls will have enough for them. They think Cleary scoring
the winning try. Raiders Seagulls.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I'm going to go Raiders.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
See the Raiders had a close lost to the Bulldogs.
The Seagulls coming off the bye again. Two teams in
and around that top eight, I'm gonna disagree with you
here and go for the Seagulls to win this one.
Seventh spot on the lader, Dragon's Bulldogs, Bulldogs, Bulldogs, they're
(23:52):
having a season. Man Camera s Eraldo Coach of the
Year Swan.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
He has to be. I mean, I don't think anyone
else gets close to him, and you look at where
he's you know, Andrew Webster came in straight away from
that Panthers system and you know took the words the
top four one coach of the year. Cameras are. They
had a really tough year last year. They had players
that they probably shouldn't have signed on money they shouldn't
have spent, and he's really just managed to turn it around.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Bulldogs fifth on the ladder and the Dragons are eighth.
Also in that fight, I'm going to go with the
Bulldogs as well, and Dolphins versus the Warriors, Alex Powell,
They've still got all the players back.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Look, I'm I don't want to just be deluded and
say Warriors, but I think that's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Going to do.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
You're going to go for the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I'm going to go for the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I'm going to pick the Dolphins. It pains me to
say it, but given the circumstances, given that they're at home.
Although actually it would be like the Warriors to completely
mess up the game, They're expected to win, head into
the tough one and produce an absolute master class. So really,
who knows? Knights Tigers?
Speaker 5 (25:01):
Probably the Knights, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I'm going to go with the Knights as well to
win that one. Also in the fight for the top eight,
well a competition. Thank you so much Alex Pale for
your time, you're wisdom, your insight on the Big League
Podcast this week. Please follow and rate the podcast. We
will be back next Monday. My name is Nathan Limb.
Have a fantastic week.
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