August 3, 2025 • 14 mins
Guest host Rich Berra and researcher Jason Martell discuss the latest in comets, asteroids and UFOs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I want to ask you about what your thoughts are
of that three I Atlas comment that is passing, you know,
through the Milky Way from parts unknown, and the thought
that maybe perhaps this is like that that other big
asteroid that people from Harvard have said, Well, it might
(00:26):
just be an observation ship disguised as a big rock.
This seems like it's moving in a way that is
quicker than most comets or asteroids. It seems like it's
reflecting light differently, and it's his trajectory is a lot different.
What do you know, what do you make of all that?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, I am following it. You know, with the limited
amount of data that we get access to, it is
an intriguing event that you know, doesn't really get a
lot of support other than you know, a few people
with credentials ov Vilobe and such, so you know it
is something to keep on the radar. But what I
(01:10):
would say, from a more grounded answer from my own
experience is just you know, over time, there's been a
lot of these flags that get put on the field.
Look over here right, or this is about to happen.
Usually any type of predicted event just doesn't take place. Now,
having said that, you know, what we have here is
(01:31):
a really interesting you know, when we analyze what we're
hearing in this article, there's two sides. There's someone who's
never really been exposed to eufology and might hear this
and be like, oh my god, how can this be
what is happening? And it brings them in the other
side is someone who's already aware of the eufhological mystery
(01:53):
of what's going on, and we've seen this type of
thing played out before, even to the fact that there
are documents from you know, various organizations like MJ twelve
things in the past that have predicted how things will
play out if there were to ever be let's say,
a staged alien event.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Ah. So this could be from the other side, if
you were a if you're jaded of a UFO researcher're like, okay,
here we go. They're starting to bring out the old chestnuts.
This is exactly where it's supposed to roll out exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's it's one of those old chestnuts that if it
does play out, you know, we're kind of ready for
that hand to be played. I mean ready in the
sense that we would be aware that like, wow, this
is this is happening. But that's not to say that
it couldn't happen.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Do you think we have I know, the speculation and
this is not really you know, your your strong suit,
but you know, we're just meeting each other. So you know,
if we were having a drink in a bar, I
would ask you this too. Do you think that we
or anybody has good enough hologram technology to make pretty
much look like anything in the sky that they want?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I would say, of course, And that that could also
caveat into another like headline piece for tonight, which is
you know, the term UAP is meant to replace the
traditional UFO. UAP is a more technical term to describe
aerial phenomena. And the latest things that we have coming
(03:28):
out of that voice are new leaked footage called tetra
based UFO. So I would say that some of the
footage and things that we're getting are leading us to
you know, some broader answers and probably more questions.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It seems like everything now is born from social media
instead of we're not waiting for CNN, where we watch
our Instagram now, So then I guess my question for you,
being somebody who's been researching this for a long time,
somebody like me that's always been interested but kind of
comes from a little bit of a skeptic kind of angle.
(04:05):
How do I know what to look for that's got
some meat on the bones and what's just total I
don't know, AI foolery or camera tricks are just maybe
something old that isn't how what do you look for
to see if it feels like it might be something
of interest?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Right, Well, there's there's definitely some patterns that are starting
to develop that are interesting. You know, I have kind
of a set opinion on the release of this type
of data. And over the years, we've had government task
force that are positioned from the government to tell the
public what's going on, and you know, we never really
(04:42):
get a clear picture from these reports. So the latest
information that we have coming out of things like a
tip you know, in various other current let's call it
task force that are assigned to look in the you know,
into the eufology topic. The footage that we get, first
(05:04):
of all, is never like high res four K. It's
always very great.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's the it's the the Navy satellite shadow of a
top that you see. It's not like Independence Day.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But the first round of stuff that we got recently
out of a tip was this TIC tac you know,
this gimbal footage, and what you see there are aerial
properties that are completely unknown to the public, you know,
aeronautics and flight capabilities, and so that opens up the
topic of course too extraterrestrials. And so when we see
this footage of like the TIC tac zipping around, we
(05:41):
hear the pilots talking about their experience. On top of that,
we're getting layered new data. This new leaked tetra UAP
is visual as well as radar paired data of these objects,
and so you know, some of this stuff, I would say,
(06:01):
let's start at level one. Here is showing the baselines
of a very technological presence that is not alien. Okay,
it's most likely the top three aerospace companies which I'm
not even going to name them, you know, buzzing around
and playing with their new toys.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It doesn't mean that they're manned, right, just because of
what they talk about is that they're doing speeds that
man nobody could survive. No human could survive, right, so
they're laying it out that, well, then it must be
an alien flying it, but it could just be really
advanced technology that nobody knows about, including the military. But
you know, somebody knows about it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, And so you know what's happening, Rich, is they're
starting to become a blur, which even makes it difficult
for ufologists to understand where does this line stop, where
they're starting to finally release you know, the last wave
of technological you know, sophistication that they released was that
it was essentially the F one seventeen and the B
two stealth technology. Sure, I mean that's a long time ago, right, So.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well maybe the drone technology because you see, you know
when you watch the Fourth of July that like the
drone light things where they could look like anything. So
I live in Phoenix where the Phoenix Lights happened, and
so many people said they saw them. They could have
been lines of drones at that point. And that was
what you know, twenty years ago. But that doesn't mean
they didn't have drone technology twenty years ago. They just
(07:25):
weren't sharing it with anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
That's a good point. And so this latest footage that
we have of these Tetra class UAP again are showing
visual characteristics that probably man made technology. But you see
a very interesting pattern of these objects that are grouped
together and even described in the released LYAD footage as
having a playfulness about them. They will group into a
(07:49):
rectangular form, a V form kind of grouped together like
they're like talking in little groups, and then come back
into formation, and all the while while making these movements
and formations, you see this undulating light pattern, almost like
a if you look up close, they're like sending out
little tiny boosters of movement using some kind of a
(08:11):
boost engine or light, and so that seems to adjust
their position and movement as you see these bursts of
light when they're actually making advanced movements. Those are again
some of the signs that we start to look for
as patterns. Now, the reason why I wanted to talk
about this rich to I know we're coming from on
a commercial soon. I live here in California, and at
(08:33):
least four times a week I stand outside and I
look up here in southern California at the sky and
using Gen three night vision military grade goggles. You can
buy them off the internet, just Gen three. They even
have higher generations. Now mine we're rather expensive, like ten
grand about it ten years ago, So they're high end,
and I use a megawatt laser to point it stuff.
(08:56):
Every single night, Rich, I see these Tetra class I
don't know what they are. I've never known to call
them tetra, but I see them above my home, even
flying very randomly following these patterns. So for me, I
think it's an interesting thing to start to talk about
that even some of these new UAP sightings, what they
(09:17):
look like, their capabilities, These craft have been sighted for
thousands of years. All the other cultures have the same
type of references, even biblical references to.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We'll get to all that. We're going to get to
all that tonight, for sure. And I've heard so many
times on this show that if you get a pair
of the military goggles and look up at that night sky,
you will see things, especially if you're in a spot
maybe where you are near the coast where the lights
from the city don't brighten up the sky as much.
(09:50):
I live in the middle of Arizona where it's pretty
dark too, and I imagine in fact that people live
out near the superstition mountains here say, it's almost a
nightly thing that you see light lights that don't make sense,
that move in directions that don't make sense, and it's
it doesn't seem like an optical illusion. It just seems
like it's so rampant now that the people that live
around there are just like, yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Pretty much pretty much. I mean, I'm it's it's you
can't just talk about it. You have to experience it, right,
And so that's that's part of this phenomena, is being
able to have hands on experiences.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, now let's get a little metaphysical here. So I'm
going to tie something medical into ufology. I've read that
people who say, you know, I never get sick, I
never get cults generally never get colds. Is there a
certain type of person that sees a UAP or a
or a UFO that just or maybe the same people
(10:47):
that see ghosts see UFOs. Is there any tie that
you've ever made to that.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know, Stephen Greer and the CE five initiative, there
seems to be a voice out there in the phiological
circles that you can call the UFOs. You can talk
to them you can have the mindset to project. I mean,
I try that stuff all the time and I still
don't see them. Every once in a while i'll see
something I'm like, why that's either a coincidence or maybe
they did hear me. But it's not enough to have,
(11:12):
you know, a qualitative answer. So I don't know, But
I would say that there's enough data out there that
they talk about cross cultures and even the CIA and
other organizations looking for these people that are receptive to
this type of communication.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You've been doing Ancient Aliens for what ten, twelve years
or six maybe longer sixteen? Okay, So the one thing
I have is a big question. This is my favorite
show on TV, Ancient Aliens, and probably why I'm sitting
here tonight because that's whenever I see George. That's why
I talked to him about. But one of the things
I think about is we give a lot of credit
(11:50):
to building a lot of things like Easter Island, the Pyramids.
We give a lot of alien tech credit for that.
Are we ignoring perhaps some really advanced Earth civilizations that
just came up with stuff that we still can't figure
out today. Are we missing the art craftsmanship of some
(12:11):
of the genius of mankind that we just don't know
how to replicate, and just calling it alien in some
cases are in a lot of cases, well, when.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
We use the word we were probably referencing the term
of ancient alien's mindset. I, in my own independent analysis
speak of research of of course alien civilizations, but also
a lost technological civilization here on Earth. Over thirty ancient
cultures reference some lost technological presence. I'll give you an example.
(12:40):
The Mayans talk about their world of where their gods
came from, and their ancient homeworld is called Atslan. Now
that sounds very similar to Atlantis. Atslan Atlantis. So you know,
there's a lot of these similarities that speak of some
technological race that influenced a lot of the cultures. We
haven't found them. But if you look at the brilliance
(13:02):
of some of these cultures, the Aztecs and the Minds
an example, their codeses and their brilliant art and architecture.
Where did they get all this? Most likely some of
those early quetzal quotal google con Perhaps some of the
others may have not been aliens, but perhaps settlers from
this lost technological culture. Both are interesting stories to pursue.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh for sure, for sure. And the similarities between the pyramids,
and the similarities between even the boats that you find
from Egypt and even as far away as as South America,
that the boat design is almost exactly the same. And
they both say they learned it from the same sort
of being, which is kind of intriguing too.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It is, and I mean as a skeptic. Yeah, and
around the world rich, you know, they speak of a
time after the Great Flood where these teachers pretty much
show up across all the different contents and teach them
how to build architecture, astronomy, agriculture. And you know, we
still try to figure out, like who these people were.
Could they have been actual giants, some larger race of beings.
(14:15):
We still don't know those answers, but there's enough evidence
of the monuments, you know, left around the world that
speak of a time when man seemed to live amongst
beings that they considered gods.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Listen to more Coast to Coast am every weeknight at
one a m Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I want to ask you about what your thoughts are
of that three I Atlas comment that is passing, you know,
through the Milky Way from parts unknown, and the thought
that maybe perhaps this is like that that other big
asteroid that people from Harvard have said, Well, it might
(00:26):
just be an observation ship disguised as a big rock.
This seems like it's moving in a way that is
quicker than most comets or asteroids. It seems like it's
reflecting light differently, and it's his trajectory is a lot different.
What do you know, what do you make of all that?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, I am following it. You know, with the limited
amount of data that we get access to, it is
an intriguing event that you know, doesn't really get a
lot of support other than you know, a few people
with credentials ov Vilobe and such, so you know it
is something to keep on the radar. But what I
(01:10):
would say, from a more grounded answer from my own
experience is just you know, over time, there's been a
lot of these flags that get put on the field.
Look over here right, or this is about to happen.
Usually any type of predicted event just doesn't take place. Now,
having said that, you know, what we have here is
(01:31):
a really interesting you know, when we analyze what we're
hearing in this article, there's two sides. There's someone who's
never really been exposed to eufology and might hear this
and be like, oh my god, how can this be
what is happening? And it brings them in the other
side is someone who's already aware of the eufhological mystery
(01:53):
of what's going on, and we've seen this type of
thing played out before, even to the fact that there
are documents from you know, various organizations like MJ twelve
things in the past that have predicted how things will
play out if there were to ever be let's say,
a staged alien event.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Ah. So this could be from the other side, if
you were a if you're jaded of a UFO researcher're like, okay,
here we go. They're starting to bring out the old chestnuts.
This is exactly where it's supposed to roll out exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's it's one of those old chestnuts that if it
does play out, you know, we're kind of ready for
that hand to be played. I mean ready in the
sense that we would be aware that like, wow, this
is this is happening. But that's not to say that
it couldn't happen.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Do you think we have I know, the speculation and
this is not really you know, your your strong suit,
but you know, we're just meeting each other. So you know,
if we were having a drink in a bar, I
would ask you this too. Do you think that we
or anybody has good enough hologram technology to make pretty
much look like anything in the sky that they want?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I would say, of course, And that that could also
caveat into another like headline piece for tonight, which is
you know, the term UAP is meant to replace the
traditional UFO. UAP is a more technical term to describe
aerial phenomena. And the latest things that we have coming
(03:28):
out of that voice are new leaked footage called tetra
based UFO. So I would say that some of the
footage and things that we're getting are leading us to
you know, some broader answers and probably more questions.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It seems like everything now is born from social media
instead of we're not waiting for CNN, where we watch
our Instagram now, So then I guess my question for you,
being somebody who's been researching this for a long time,
somebody like me that's always been interested but kind of
comes from a little bit of a skeptic kind of angle.
(04:05):
How do I know what to look for that's got
some meat on the bones and what's just total I
don't know, AI foolery or camera tricks are just maybe
something old that isn't how what do you look for
to see if it feels like it might be something
of interest?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Right, Well, there's there's definitely some patterns that are starting
to develop that are interesting. You know, I have kind
of a set opinion on the release of this type
of data. And over the years, we've had government task
force that are positioned from the government to tell the
public what's going on, and you know, we never really
(04:42):
get a clear picture from these reports. So the latest
information that we have coming out of things like a
tip you know, in various other current let's call it
task force that are assigned to look in the you know,
into the eufology topic. The footage that we get, first
(05:04):
of all, is never like high res four K. It's
always very great.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's the it's the the Navy satellite shadow of a
top that you see. It's not like Independence Day.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
But the first round of stuff that we got recently
out of a tip was this TIC tac you know,
this gimbal footage, and what you see there are aerial
properties that are completely unknown to the public, you know,
aeronautics and flight capabilities, and so that opens up the
topic of course too extraterrestrials. And so when we see
this footage of like the TIC tac zipping around, we
(05:41):
hear the pilots talking about their experience. On top of that,
we're getting layered new data. This new leaked tetra UAP
is visual as well as radar paired data of these objects,
and so you know, some of this stuff, I would say,
(06:01):
let's start at level one. Here is showing the baselines
of a very technological presence that is not alien. Okay,
it's most likely the top three aerospace companies which I'm
not even going to name them, you know, buzzing around
and playing with their new toys.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It doesn't mean that they're manned, right, just because of
what they talk about is that they're doing speeds that
man nobody could survive. No human could survive, right, so
they're laying it out that, well, then it must be
an alien flying it, but it could just be really
advanced technology that nobody knows about, including the military. But
you know, somebody knows about it.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, And so you know what's happening, Rich, is they're
starting to become a blur, which even makes it difficult
for ufologists to understand where does this line stop, where
they're starting to finally release you know, the last wave
of technological you know, sophistication that they released was that
it was essentially the F one seventeen and the B
two stealth technology. Sure, I mean that's a long time ago, right, So.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well maybe the drone technology because you see, you know
when you watch the Fourth of July that like the
drone light things where they could look like anything. So
I live in Phoenix where the Phoenix Lights happened, and
so many people said they saw them. They could have
been lines of drones at that point. And that was
what you know, twenty years ago. But that doesn't mean
they didn't have drone technology twenty years ago. They just
(07:25):
weren't sharing it with anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
That's a good point. And so this latest footage that
we have of these Tetra class UAP again are showing
visual characteristics that probably man made technology. But you see
a very interesting pattern of these objects that are grouped
together and even described in the released LYAD footage as
having a playfulness about them. They will group into a
(07:49):
rectangular form, a V form kind of grouped together like
they're like talking in little groups, and then come back
into formation, and all the while while making these movements
and formations, you see this undulating light pattern, almost like
a if you look up close, they're like sending out
little tiny boosters of movement using some kind of a
(08:11):
boost engine or light, and so that seems to adjust
their position and movement as you see these bursts of
light when they're actually making advanced movements. Those are again
some of the signs that we start to look for
as patterns. Now, the reason why I wanted to talk
about this rich to I know we're coming from on
a commercial soon. I live here in California, and at
(08:33):
least four times a week I stand outside and I
look up here in southern California at the sky and
using Gen three night vision military grade goggles. You can
buy them off the internet, just Gen three. They even
have higher generations. Now mine we're rather expensive, like ten
grand about it ten years ago, So they're high end,
and I use a megawatt laser to point it stuff.
(08:56):
Every single night, Rich, I see these Tetra class I
don't know what they are. I've never known to call
them tetra, but I see them above my home, even
flying very randomly following these patterns. So for me, I
think it's an interesting thing to start to talk about
that even some of these new UAP sightings, what they
(09:17):
look like, their capabilities, These craft have been sighted for
thousands of years. All the other cultures have the same
type of references, even biblical references to.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
We'll get to all that. We're going to get to
all that tonight, for sure. And I've heard so many
times on this show that if you get a pair
of the military goggles and look up at that night sky,
you will see things, especially if you're in a spot
maybe where you are near the coast where the lights
from the city don't brighten up the sky as much.
(09:50):
I live in the middle of Arizona where it's pretty
dark too, and I imagine in fact that people live
out near the superstition mountains here say, it's almost a
nightly thing that you see light lights that don't make sense,
that move in directions that don't make sense, and it's
it doesn't seem like an optical illusion. It just seems
like it's so rampant now that the people that live
around there are just like, yeah, that's part of it.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Pretty much pretty much. I mean, I'm it's it's you
can't just talk about it. You have to experience it, right,
And so that's that's part of this phenomena, is being
able to have hands on experiences.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, now let's get a little metaphysical here. So I'm
going to tie something medical into ufology. I've read that
people who say, you know, I never get sick, I
never get cults generally never get colds. Is there a
certain type of person that sees a UAP or a
or a UFO that just or maybe the same people
(10:47):
that see ghosts see UFOs. Is there any tie that
you've ever made to that.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know, Stephen Greer and the CE five initiative, there
seems to be a voice out there in the phiological
circles that you can call the UFOs. You can talk
to them you can have the mindset to project. I mean,
I try that stuff all the time and I still
don't see them. Every once in a while i'll see
something I'm like, why that's either a coincidence or maybe
they did hear me. But it's not enough to have,
(11:12):
you know, a qualitative answer. So I don't know, But
I would say that there's enough data out there that
they talk about cross cultures and even the CIA and
other organizations looking for these people that are receptive to
this type of communication.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You've been doing Ancient Aliens for what ten, twelve years
or six maybe longer sixteen? Okay, So the one thing
I have is a big question. This is my favorite
show on TV, Ancient Aliens, and probably why I'm sitting
here tonight because that's whenever I see George. That's why
I talked to him about. But one of the things
I think about is we give a lot of credit
(11:50):
to building a lot of things like Easter Island, the Pyramids.
We give a lot of alien tech credit for that.
Are we ignoring perhaps some really advanced Earth civilizations that
just came up with stuff that we still can't figure
out today. Are we missing the art craftsmanship of some
(12:11):
of the genius of mankind that we just don't know
how to replicate, and just calling it alien in some
cases are in a lot of cases, well, when.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
We use the word we were probably referencing the term
of ancient alien's mindset. I, in my own independent analysis
speak of research of of course alien civilizations, but also
a lost technological civilization here on Earth. Over thirty ancient
cultures reference some lost technological presence. I'll give you an example.
(12:40):
The Mayans talk about their world of where their gods
came from, and their ancient homeworld is called Atslan. Now
that sounds very similar to Atlantis. Atslan Atlantis. So you know,
there's a lot of these similarities that speak of some
technological race that influenced a lot of the cultures. We
haven't found them. But if you look at the brilliance
(13:02):
of some of these cultures, the Aztecs and the Minds
an example, their codeses and their brilliant art and architecture.
Where did they get all this? Most likely some of
those early quetzal quotal google con Perhaps some of the
others may have not been aliens, but perhaps settlers from
this lost technological culture. Both are interesting stories to pursue.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh for sure, for sure. And the similarities between the pyramids,
and the similarities between even the boats that you find
from Egypt and even as far away as as South America,
that the boat design is almost exactly the same. And
they both say they learned it from the same sort
of being, which is kind of intriguing too.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
It is, and I mean as a skeptic. Yeah, and
around the world rich, you know, they speak of a
time after the Great Flood where these teachers pretty much
show up across all the different contents and teach them
how to build architecture, astronomy, agriculture. And you know, we
still try to figure out, like who these people were.
Could they have been actual giants, some larger race of beings.
(14:15):
We still don't know those answers, but there's enough evidence
of the monuments, you know, left around the world that
speak of a time when man seemed to live amongst
beings that they considered gods.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
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one a m Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more
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