October 6, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and Author Bill Konkolesky discuss alien abduction cases and take calls from listeners.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back George Andrea along with William Koncoleuski. William,
do you think there are some abductees who are not
sharing their story? They're not as vocal as you are,
They're hiding it?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh, for sure. I think the majority of people are.
And that's why I think that those who do come forward,
especially at a time like this where it seems to
be fairly right up, I really give them tremendous props
from coming out with their story. Just a few people
(00:39):
I can touch on really quickly. I'm not sure if
anybody saw the Ancient Alien Subduction Files episode on September nineteenth.
One of the new faces that appeared on that show
was a gentleman by the name of Eric Nansteel. I
had opportunity to meet him at the Muffon Symposium of
(01:00):
the summer in Covington, Kentucky, and I was really impressed
with how down to earth he was, and how brave
he was, and how great of a communicator he was
about what he had been through and some of the
things that we had shared backgrounds about. And he put
out a book it's called Angst in the Shadows, True
(01:21):
Story of Alien Abductions, and it talks about his encounters
and whereas a lot of abductees will come out of
the gate fairly shy, saying here's a list of things
that happen to me that I can't explain, he comes
out swinging saying things. You know that he believes that
the entities that are visiting him don't have spirits souls,
(01:46):
and that they're abducting us to sort of get back
into the biological space where they actually have souls again.
And he's got a lot of theories like that, and
he even very shortly after his first book, he put
out another book called Blood Covenant, and you know that
you can find these on Amazon. And so I was
(02:08):
really impressed with him. Another individual, her name is Kay Hennessy.
She's got a book called Without Consent, taken by the Grays,
and she was the subject of their intense interest starting
at about age fourteen. Biologically, they were interested in the
(02:31):
reproduction angle with her quite young in life, and when
in she it was right after her honeymoon. I recall
her story she was taken aboard and that sort of
thing that happens to a lot of inductees. Here is
a hybrid child. You know, you know, treat this child
(02:53):
with love, don't you think? Going to her? And things
did not go well from that point. I don't want
to tell too much of her story, it's in her book,
but it was a very harrowing moment when she resisted
them during the showing of a hybrid.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Here.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Locally, I helped a woman she's gone by the name
en Lane Conway for her book that just got released.
It's called Visitors from the Phenomena, A Lifetime of Contact
with non human Intelligence. She's a Michigander and one of
the things, you know, again, a very down to earth person,
(03:36):
and her story is really incredible because it documents so
well four generations of experiences her mother, her her child,
her grandchild. She talks about a lifetime just trying to
figure out what's going on while one generation after another,
(03:57):
generation after another generation, her family is having experiences. A
couple people that might be putting out some works but
have not yet to this point. A woman she goes
by the name of Nicole Lynn. She's been talking about
her story and she's got possibly the best, most incredible
(04:20):
amazing stories that I've ever heard from another abductee. Several
cases with multiple witnesses, several cases with animal effects that
are frankly and pleasant, and it's just astonishing to hear
such an in depth life of encounters. And also another
(04:41):
woman locally. Her name is Claudia, And one of the
things that really got me about Claudia's story was was
this particular moment that she shared. She was looking back
several decades back at some picture where she was a
bridesmaid in a wedding, and she looked at the picture
(05:02):
and she's like, oh, my gosh, I was pregnant in
that picture. She was pregnant. Her baby was taken from her,
and she forgot that she was even pregnant. She was
in a position, that rare position somehow, where she was
out of contact with most folks in her life. Her
(05:23):
and her fella, I don't know if they were married
yet or not at the point, well, yeah, they got pregnant.
And then the one day she wasn't pregnant anymore, and
it was during the course of a move, they were
moving across the country, and yeah, she just simply forgot.
And then it wasn't until she saw this picture of
herself pregnant that she remembered, Oh my gosh, I was pregnant.
(05:46):
What it would take for somebody to forget that and
to be in a position where nobody around them would
remind them, hey, weren't you kind of pregnant? That is
just mind blowing. Never a dull moment when you're in
this community hearing the stories that people share, and so
bravely too, because you know, for most of them, there
(06:07):
is no benefit, there is no benefit outside of saying, hey,
let me get this off my chest. You know, people
are clamoring in, you know, in the US to hear
these types of stories to support people. You know, when
they people often are excited to hear about these stories
and say, hey, check out this weird thing that happened
(06:28):
to this person. That might also be weird, but these
are just your regular, average salt of the earth folks.
Stuff happens, they can't explain it, they need to tell it,
and they do they tell it, and you know, props
to all of them for being able to share what's happened,
and I appreciate all of them.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All right, let's go to some of the phones. Let's
start with Dave and Florida. They get us started. Hi David, Good.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Morning, George and Bill. This is the greatest show ever.
I'm telling you, I love this show. Real quick question,
I totally believe Travis Walton and Barney and Betty Hill
and Ripley Schubert and I don't think I said that right,
But would you like to see those movies redone? An
interrupted journey like done professionally by say someone Mick Steven
(07:19):
Spielberg or Fire in the Sky. And one last question,
whatever happened to Barney and Betty's car with the spots
on the trunk that were magnetic. I know they have
her dress, and I think they have Barney's shoes. What
became of the car?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Okay, I'm going to sort of roll backwards with your questions.
I don't know what happened with the guy. I have
no idea. I don't know if George knows, perhaps I
do not. Bill, I don't know, but I don't. I
do have an amusing story about Betty's dress, though. So
here in Michigan there was a gentleman named William C. Levengood,
(07:54):
and he ran a laboratory in Grass Lake. And here
in Michigan, and he was the person that Betty Hill
decided should take a look at her dress to see
if anything might be found unusual about it. And so
I was given the dress, given the dress by Kathy Martin,
(08:16):
and to cut some snippets, some swatches out of it
to be able to bring to the lab. And I
was told I could keep a little piece. So I
do have a piece of Betty Hills dress. But so anyway,
so brought it to the lab for loving good, and
I don't think that I don't recall anything interesting being
found except some sort of residue that was questionable that
(08:36):
turned out to be likely to order it. So there's that.
But I'm a part of history. I helped look into
Betty Hills dress. But for movies now, the UFO Incident
that came out in nineteen seventy five, which is based
on the Interrupted Journey Betty and Barney Hill's story, I
(08:57):
don't think you could top that production. To me, that
is still one of the best UFO films out there
abduction films. It was James Earl Jones and pard If
I get the actress wrong, is Stelle Parsons perhaps, But.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Thanks and Tom hasked some information for us, Bill on
the car. What do you have? Tom Well?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I was looking here real quick, and apparently, when Betty
died in two thousand and four, the car was located
in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Supposedly it had radioactive spots.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
On the trunk.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And that's as much as I'm seeing right here.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
How about that, Bill?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. The other two things that
he mentioned Streeber as well as Travis Walton. In terms
of film productions, I would like to see Communion and
Fire in the Sky call It, which you will read on. Absolutely.
I think those movies did not represent what happened to
(09:57):
these gentlemen at all. I think they were just hollowey,
Hollywood whitewashes of the story. And those stories need to
absolutely be retold. But for as for Betty and Barney Hill,
don't touch you full incident. That's that's a classic.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Next up, let's go to Dave in Florida or David
we just had. Let's go to Peter in Arizona. Go ahead, Peter, Hi,
how are you good?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
There were two events. One was in nineteen around nineteen
seventy one, and the other one was, uh, this year
in May. I live here in Arizona right now, but
the first event occurred in Las Vegas, Nevada, in a
neighbor called Paradise Valley. My parents frequently visited Mel's Air
(10:48):
Force Base. My father was in the military and we
spend a lot of time there. And I believe that
Nathan was spurred on this encounter. But I do know
also there was a nuclear underground nuclear test in nineteen
seventy one that they conducted there in Nevada around this
(11:10):
time as well, and that made I sud to do
it as well. But my mother father was the first
one to spot them. There were three, I would have
to say, ufoss floating over our backyard. There were only
about three hundred feet above a backyard. My mother came
in to wake me up because I was sleeping, and
(11:31):
it was three twenty in the morning, and remember that,
And I went out to the backyard and up there
they were, and they were quiet, they were silent. They
were not helicopters. They made no sounds. The lights each
each one of the vehicles had two had headlights, I
(11:52):
guess to say, on the front. And the interesting thing
is they glowed like your led lights.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
That we have now.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And then suddenly because they were watching, I know they were,
and one of them came down, descended and came down,
and I would say maybe it was seventy five feet
now above our backyard, and it started to rock back
and forth, and it kind of like went up and
(12:23):
down like a boat looks like when it's on water.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It was doing that and rocking back and forth, and
I thought, oh my god, this is going to crash,
you know, and then they vanished. This gone just like that.
I mean, we know they So anyway, I don't want
to take up too much time because the second event, now,
(12:48):
oh yeah, I want to say that my mother had said.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
I asked her if anything unusual had happened to her,
you know, when they were out there before she woke
me up, and she said no. When I said it sure,
nothing unusual, she did say that night she did have
a dream, a very vivid dream, floating through the house.
That ah, that might that might perhaps, you know, she
(13:14):
would that. I don't know, but.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
That's that's that. I mean, there was more to that, actually,
but I wanted to get to what happened to me
just recently in May twice I did my own version
of See five and I, you know, did it just
looking up into the sky and sending my intent out
(13:39):
there too, you know, if you're out there, you know,
please show you know, show me yourself seek nothing happened.
And then I said, A couple of days after that,
I wake up in the morning and on the back
of my calf there's scratched very you know, these scratch
(14:00):
marks on the back of my cab and I don't
sleep one. I know that there's no way I could
have had those scratches without myself knowing about.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Let me bring Bill in on this for a second.
Build like your cuts on your arm, his scratches. What
are they doing? What are these ET's doing?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So I think sometimes it's a it's a matter of
an incision, they're taking a sample, they're inserting something, it's surgical.
Other times it's a combination of the abductees struggling against
what's happening to them. Some of these impressions, some of
these cuts look like scratch like scratch marks like from fingernails,
(14:49):
or ruises on an arm or a leg that looked
like fingers, and it looks like the result of some
sort of physical struggle. Between the abductee and their captor
other times people have like these scratches on their feet
and their legs when they were physically walked out of
their home and they walked through some stuff like some
(15:13):
branches or through a bookish or whatever the case might be.
They don't they're not really aware of what's going on,
but they're barefoot and they're walking out in nature, and
they get these sort of marks on them from being
taken out to the ship or being brought back to
the ship. So it's a it's a combination. And the
things that really get me or when you see these
(15:34):
geometric patterns, because those are clearly not just scratches or bruises.
Those are very intentional and very eerie.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Charles in California, Charles would squeeze you in before the break?
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Oh okay, I don't know how did you squeeze in? Okay?
How about the the agency that Bill has for like
going back and forth. But the relationship is is really weighted.
I struggle with that too, and I'm wondering, you know,
how he deals with that. And since we're to break,
I'll just kind of there. Thank you, George, all Right?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Thoughts on that bill.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So so I'm assuming he's talking about the relationship I
have with the beings. I don't know if I would
think so, Okay, So with that, yeah, it's definitely weighted,
as you know, Jim Sparks definitely said, you know, everything
is that that happens is in their better interest. Even
(16:38):
the things they do to us that may seem kind
or favorable, it's all for their purposes. And so take
that for for what it is. Is you can benefit
from stuff if it benefits them, but really it's there
in the driver's seat. And yeah, they're they're they're the
senior partner in this relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Since this has happened to you, do you have any regrets?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Regrets? No, there have been some relationships that I've had
with people that have gone sideways because of this phenomena.
But I can't apologize for what's happened to me or
(17:30):
how I'm doing my best to get through it. Some
people have a real difficulty with this happening, and it's
a lot to ask of somebody. I understand. You know,
if you believe me, then that means that you have
to rearrange your whole paradigm of how the universe works
(17:50):
simply based upon a good story that somebody else has
with no direct evidence. So I understand it's tough. I
understand it's tough to believe this sort of thing if
it hasn't happened to you.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Listen to more Coast to Coast Am every weeknight at
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back George Andrea along with William Koncoleuski. William,
do you think there are some abductees who are not
sharing their story? They're not as vocal as you are,
They're hiding it?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Oh, for sure. I think the majority of people are.
And that's why I think that those who do come forward,
especially at a time like this where it seems to
be fairly right up, I really give them tremendous props
from coming out with their story. Just a few people
(00:39):
I can touch on really quickly. I'm not sure if
anybody saw the Ancient Alien Subduction Files episode on September nineteenth.
One of the new faces that appeared on that show
was a gentleman by the name of Eric Nansteel. I
had opportunity to meet him at the Muffon Symposium of
(01:00):
the summer in Covington, Kentucky, and I was really impressed
with how down to earth he was, and how brave
he was, and how great of a communicator he was
about what he had been through and some of the
things that we had shared backgrounds about. And he put
out a book it's called Angst in the Shadows, True
(01:21):
Story of Alien Abductions, and it talks about his encounters
and whereas a lot of abductees will come out of
the gate fairly shy, saying here's a list of things
that happen to me that I can't explain, he comes
out swinging saying things. You know that he believes that
the entities that are visiting him don't have spirits souls,
(01:46):
and that they're abducting us to sort of get back
into the biological space where they actually have souls again.
And he's got a lot of theories like that, and
he even very shortly after his first book, he put
out another book called Blood Covenant, and you know that
you can find these on Amazon. And so I was
(02:08):
really impressed with him. Another individual, her name is Kay Hennessy.
She's got a book called Without Consent, taken by the Grays,
and she was the subject of their intense interest starting
at about age fourteen. Biologically, they were interested in the
(02:31):
reproduction angle with her quite young in life, and when
in she it was right after her honeymoon. I recall
her story she was taken aboard and that sort of
thing that happens to a lot of inductees. Here is
a hybrid child. You know, you know, treat this child
(02:53):
with love, don't you think? Going to her? And things
did not go well from that point. I don't want
to tell too much of her story, it's in her book,
but it was a very harrowing moment when she resisted
them during the showing of a hybrid.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Here.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Locally, I helped a woman she's gone by the name
en Lane Conway for her book that just got released.
It's called Visitors from the Phenomena, A Lifetime of Contact
with non human Intelligence. She's a Michigander and one of
the things, you know, again, a very down to earth person,
(03:36):
and her story is really incredible because it documents so
well four generations of experiences her mother, her her child,
her grandchild. She talks about a lifetime just trying to
figure out what's going on while one generation after another,
(03:57):
generation after another generation, her family is having experiences. A
couple people that might be putting out some works but
have not yet to this point. A woman she goes
by the name of Nicole Lynn. She's been talking about
her story and she's got possibly the best, most incredible
(04:20):
amazing stories that I've ever heard from another abductee. Several
cases with multiple witnesses, several cases with animal effects that
are frankly and pleasant, and it's just astonishing to hear
such an in depth life of encounters. And also another
(04:41):
woman locally. Her name is Claudia, And one of the
things that really got me about Claudia's story was was
this particular moment that she shared. She was looking back
several decades back at some picture where she was a
bridesmaid in a wedding, and she looked at the picture
(05:02):
and she's like, oh, my gosh, I was pregnant in
that picture. She was pregnant. Her baby was taken from her,
and she forgot that she was even pregnant. She was
in a position, that rare position somehow, where she was
out of contact with most folks in her life. Her
(05:23):
and her fella, I don't know if they were married
yet or not at the point, well, yeah, they got pregnant.
And then the one day she wasn't pregnant anymore, and
it was during the course of a move, they were
moving across the country, and yeah, she just simply forgot.
And then it wasn't until she saw this picture of
herself pregnant that she remembered, Oh my gosh, I was pregnant.
(05:46):
What it would take for somebody to forget that and
to be in a position where nobody around them would
remind them, hey, weren't you kind of pregnant? That is
just mind blowing. Never a dull moment when you're in
this community hearing the stories that people share, and so
bravely too, because you know, for most of them, there
(06:07):
is no benefit, there is no benefit outside of saying, hey,
let me get this off my chest. You know, people
are clamoring in, you know, in the US to hear
these types of stories to support people. You know, when
they people often are excited to hear about these stories
and say, hey, check out this weird thing that happened
(06:28):
to this person. That might also be weird, but these
are just your regular, average salt of the earth folks.
Stuff happens, they can't explain it, they need to tell it,
and they do they tell it, and you know, props
to all of them for being able to share what's happened,
and I appreciate all of them.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All right, let's go to some of the phones. Let's
start with Dave and Florida. They get us started. Hi David, Good.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Morning, George and Bill. This is the greatest show ever.
I'm telling you, I love this show. Real quick question,
I totally believe Travis Walton and Barney and Betty Hill
and Ripley Schubert and I don't think I said that right,
But would you like to see those movies redone? An
interrupted journey like done professionally by say someone Mick Steven
(07:19):
Spielberg or Fire in the Sky. And one last question,
whatever happened to Barney and Betty's car with the spots
on the trunk that were magnetic. I know they have
her dress, and I think they have Barney's shoes. What
became of the car?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Okay, I'm going to sort of roll backwards with your questions.
I don't know what happened with the guy. I have
no idea. I don't know if George knows, perhaps I
do not. Bill, I don't know, but I don't. I
do have an amusing story about Betty's dress, though. So
here in Michigan there was a gentleman named William C. Levengood,
(07:54):
and he ran a laboratory in Grass Lake. And here
in Michigan, and he was the person that Betty Hill
decided should take a look at her dress to see
if anything might be found unusual about it. And so
I was given the dress, given the dress by Kathy Martin,
(08:16):
and to cut some snippets, some swatches out of it
to be able to bring to the lab. And I
was told I could keep a little piece. So I
do have a piece of Betty Hills dress. But so anyway,
so brought it to the lab for loving good, and
I don't think that I don't recall anything interesting being
found except some sort of residue that was questionable that
(08:36):
turned out to be likely to order it. So there's that.
But I'm a part of history. I helped look into
Betty Hills dress. But for movies now, the UFO Incident
that came out in nineteen seventy five, which is based
on the Interrupted Journey Betty and Barney Hill's story, I
(08:57):
don't think you could top that production. To me, that
is still one of the best UFO films out there
abduction films. It was James Earl Jones and pard If
I get the actress wrong, is Stelle Parsons perhaps, But.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Thanks and Tom hasked some information for us, Bill on
the car. What do you have? Tom Well?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I was looking here real quick, and apparently, when Betty
died in two thousand and four, the car was located
in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Supposedly it had radioactive spots.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
On the trunk.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And that's as much as I'm seeing right here.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
How about that, Bill?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, I don't know. Interesting. The other two things that
he mentioned Streeber as well as Travis Walton. In terms
of film productions, I would like to see Communion and
Fire in the Sky call It, which you will read on. Absolutely.
I think those movies did not represent what happened to
(09:57):
these gentlemen at all. I think they were just hollowey,
Hollywood whitewashes of the story. And those stories need to
absolutely be retold. But for as for Betty and Barney Hill,
don't touch you full incident. That's that's a classic.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Next up, let's go to Dave in Florida or David
we just had. Let's go to Peter in Arizona. Go ahead, Peter, Hi,
how are you good?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
There were two events. One was in nineteen around nineteen
seventy one, and the other one was, uh, this year
in May. I live here in Arizona right now, but
the first event occurred in Las Vegas, Nevada, in a
neighbor called Paradise Valley. My parents frequently visited Mel's Air
(10:48):
Force Base. My father was in the military and we
spend a lot of time there. And I believe that
Nathan was spurred on this encounter. But I do know
also there was a nuclear underground nuclear test in nineteen
seventy one that they conducted there in Nevada around this
(11:10):
time as well, and that made I sud to do
it as well. But my mother father was the first
one to spot them. There were three, I would have
to say, ufoss floating over our backyard. There were only
about three hundred feet above a backyard. My mother came
in to wake me up because I was sleeping, and
(11:31):
it was three twenty in the morning, and remember that,
And I went out to the backyard and up there
they were, and they were quiet, they were silent. They
were not helicopters. They made no sounds. The lights each
each one of the vehicles had two had headlights, I
(11:52):
guess to say, on the front. And the interesting thing
is they glowed like your led lights.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
That we have now.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And then suddenly because they were watching, I know they were,
and one of them came down, descended and came down,
and I would say maybe it was seventy five feet
now above our backyard, and it started to rock back
and forth, and it kind of like went up and
(12:23):
down like a boat looks like when it's on water.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It was doing that and rocking back and forth, and
I thought, oh my god, this is going to crash,
you know, and then they vanished. This gone just like that.
I mean, we know they So anyway, I don't want
to take up too much time because the second event, now,
(12:48):
oh yeah, I want to say that my mother had said.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
I asked her if anything unusual had happened to her,
you know, when they were out there before she woke
me up, and she said no. When I said it sure,
nothing unusual, she did say that night she did have
a dream, a very vivid dream, floating through the house.
That ah, that might that might perhaps, you know, she
(13:14):
would that. I don't know, but.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
That's that's that. I mean, there was more to that, actually,
but I wanted to get to what happened to me
just recently in May twice I did my own version
of See five and I, you know, did it just
looking up into the sky and sending my intent out
(13:39):
there too, you know, if you're out there, you know,
please show you know, show me yourself seek nothing happened.
And then I said, A couple of days after that,
I wake up in the morning and on the back
of my calf there's scratched very you know, these scratch
(14:00):
marks on the back of my cab and I don't
sleep one. I know that there's no way I could
have had those scratches without myself knowing about.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Let me bring Bill in on this for a second.
Build like your cuts on your arm, his scratches. What
are they doing? What are these ET's doing?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So I think sometimes it's a it's a matter of
an incision, they're taking a sample, they're inserting something, it's surgical.
Other times it's a combination of the abductees struggling against
what's happening to them. Some of these impressions, some of
these cuts look like scratch like scratch marks like from fingernails,
(14:49):
or ruises on an arm or a leg that looked
like fingers, and it looks like the result of some
sort of physical struggle. Between the abductee and their captor
other times people have like these scratches on their feet
and their legs when they were physically walked out of
their home and they walked through some stuff like some
(15:13):
branches or through a bookish or whatever the case might be.
They don't they're not really aware of what's going on,
but they're barefoot and they're walking out in nature, and
they get these sort of marks on them from being
taken out to the ship or being brought back to
the ship. So it's a it's a combination. And the
things that really get me or when you see these
(15:34):
geometric patterns, because those are clearly not just scratches or bruises.
Those are very intentional and very eerie.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Charles in California, Charles would squeeze you in before the break?
Go ahead?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Oh okay, I don't know how did you squeeze in? Okay?
How about the the agency that Bill has for like
going back and forth. But the relationship is is really weighted.
I struggle with that too, and I'm wondering, you know,
how he deals with that. And since we're to break,
I'll just kind of there. Thank you, George, all Right?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Thoughts on that bill.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So so I'm assuming he's talking about the relationship I
have with the beings. I don't know if I would
think so, Okay, So with that, yeah, it's definitely weighted,
as you know, Jim Sparks definitely said, you know, everything
is that that happens is in their better interest. Even
(16:38):
the things they do to us that may seem kind
or favorable, it's all for their purposes. And so take
that for for what it is. Is you can benefit
from stuff if it benefits them, but really it's there
in the driver's seat. And yeah, they're they're they're the
senior partner in this relationship.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Since this has happened to you, do you have any regrets?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Regrets? No, there have been some relationships that I've had
with people that have gone sideways because of this phenomena.
But I can't apologize for what's happened to me or
(17:30):
how I'm doing my best to get through it. Some
people have a real difficulty with this happening, and it's
a lot to ask of somebody. I understand. You know,
if you believe me, then that means that you have
to rearrange your whole paradigm of how the universe works
(17:50):
simply based upon a good story that somebody else has
with no direct evidence. So I understand it's tough. I
understand it's tough to believe this sort of thing if
it hasn't happened to you.
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