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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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That's T H O M.
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So Tom, you know time flies. I want to ask you.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm going to ask you some some questions before we
get to the space and the future, okay, because only you,
you know, I want I want to get these answers
from you. So we're learning, we're learning from the man.
Tonight Okay, So who are the Bigfoot? And is that
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the proper name?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
No, that's that's just just something that has added on
to him. I call him Sasquatch, which is also a
name that was given to them. It's a variation on
a hals uh Indian word which I can't pronounce. And
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but they don't care. I've asked specifically, is that bothersome? No,
it describes us, you know. That's that's their attitude. Uh,
They're kind of kind of easy about what we say anyway,
because they kind of looking down their nose at us.
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You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
We're primitive. We're primitive.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We are we are, and we're dangerous. We're dangerous. You know. Yeah,
I've said, I've said for the last thirty years, forty
years something like that, that the most dangerous thing in
the woods were shoes.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, yep, agreed.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You know it's been that way. It's been that way
for ages. I have never, in all my years now
dealing with them, never felt threatened. Now have I gotten
in a place where I wasn't supposed to be and
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they wanted me out of there? Yes? Yes, you know
what I did?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I left? Yeah, exactly exactly. You know it. I know,
I know. I try to tell that to people.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I'm like, look, you know, they they don't have to
kill you or tear you apart like they could. They
just have to breathe really heavy or growl and let
you know that that's far enough.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, you should, you should, you know it should. If
you're out there, you should have sense enough to know
your environment.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and know when.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You're not wanted. Uh, you know, it's just that that's simple.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
How long do they live? How do to me?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
How many one hundred years?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Only I thought it was going to be more.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Now at one hundred years, some of them go through
a transition and those become the elders. My teacher is
one of those. Arla's Kashima is one of those. Kashima
is several several hundred years old.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Year before mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I was just letting people know that was Arlet Colette
William or Arle Colette or whatever she is today, our woman,
our friend, she's been here.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
So when you say that they become elders, are you
saying can you still see them or are they more
just talking with you? No?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
They I see my teacher quite often. Uh, but they
talk to me more more than I see them, really,
but I see him enough. No, He's there and real
and and all.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Ah to be able to get that, you know, they
don't understand. Okay, they don't understand. Some people don't know that.
It goes that much further that they hang out with
you and they talk to you, and they give you wisdom,
and they'll joke with you and mess with you and
play with you, and but also give you the goods.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Too, and they also heal you, cur you.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
What have you noticed with that? How have you seen that?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
In twenty fourteen, fifteen, maybe thirteen, twenty thirteen, Yeah, was
Suit again, my friend Suit. I picked her up and
we headed for southwest pardon me. Was headed for Oregon,
southwest of Mount Hood and met a group there, part
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of Autumn Williams group, and camped together. There were ten
of us camped there, and I was having heart trouble
since that's my bane. My heart's in asia fibrillation has
been for twenty five years now, and that day it
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was nothing was running un seen. I was bad. I
was really bad. Jeff Brown, one of the people there,
Jim Demain another one, had a conversation and they felt
they would probably be carrying me out in the back
of the pickup the next day, and I felt they
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probably weren't wrong. I knew I was going to be
going to town the next day that I couldn't take anymore.
When I went to bed, and in the middle, well
late late night, not yet morning, I was awakened by
a sound of buzzing sound coming out of my chest.
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Sue was awake. When I opened my eyes, she said,
where's that sound coming from? And I pointed in my shoulder,
right out of my chest, and there was a burnmark there.
For quite some time afterwards, I have photographs of that
of the burn mark where this transition took place. This
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went on, I thought for fifteen or twenty minutes later
conversation with Sue said no, it was like three and
a half four hours that had been going on. I
could see the two sasquatch outside our kent. They were
just Sue's mash was at one end of the tent,
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mine was at the other. She called my mattress princetss
mattress because it was thirteen inches thick. So I couldn't
feel a pee, you know. But when I got up
that morning. Next morning, Jim was just starting the fire
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and I walked out, and then I felt better than
I felt in years.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The fact that you got up that next morning is
pretty you.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Know, amazing, amazing, Yes it is. Yeah, Okay, where I
was the night before, where I was that morning was
an amazing change.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
That's some quick healing there. And you've had that happen before.
Other people have spoken the same thing. I've recognized that
even though there might be maybe some dudes hanging out
along the way, watching, checking things out, whatever, maybe it's
younger juvenile hanging out with each other, I have recognized
that it is normally, as you know, besides those kind
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of things, it's a mother father kids set up.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yes it is, Yes it is. That's one time in
twenty sixteen, Bob Gibbon and I went to Georgia for
our annual camp out there in West Georgia, and they
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had the fourth foresight to reds a cabin because I
can't camp anymore, but that time I couldn't either. If
I get on the floor ground now it would require
heavy equipment to hit me back on my feet.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Dude, glamping is the way to go. That's the I'm all.
I love to glamp. That's just said.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
They still won't come up to you.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yes, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
To lay on the ground like you and and gimbling Bob, gimblin.
Let me lay on my law. I'll put my head
on a log. I don't even need a blanket. Come
on you.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Cowboys. Cowboys, I tell you crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
They're spiders all over you. Just saying wait a minute,
that brings me to something. I'm sorry, I'm going to
interrupt you here because that brings me into something. You
showed me a picture once, and I absolutely, you know,
showed it on my Blue Rock talk show as much
as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You had showed it there first that I remember it was.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think it was somebody else that took the picture though,
and I cannot think of Davis. Was it Davy's anyway,
they were It was a guy and a girl. They
were laying out somewhere camping wherever you guys were, and
they were outside on the ground.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
There was a picnic table and it was just a shot.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't know if it's a trail camera what, but
one was squatted down right over his head.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Oh yes, that was Adam Adam okay.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Adam Davies okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, that happened at Marble Belt. Uh oh it was
a yeah, it was a cold.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Night there, and one squatted looking over him, squatted out
looking over him as he's sleeping. Oh my gosh, you
see it.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, you told me in the picture. Oh yeah, Oh
my gosh. That's a great one.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Okay, okay, So I know I remember something before where
you had said there's only so many on the planet.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Right, what's that about? State of Washington? That's about three
hundred okay, And I've identified all the clans here by
I'm having a by number and by population number, and
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that's three hundred Sasquatch in a state that has twenty
five thousand bears. Now, I have never, in all my
years as a forester, a logger, and a hunter ever
found a bear carca and there's twenty five thousand of
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them in the state. What do you think your chances
are of finding a Sasquatch body when there's three hundred
of them in the stake in seventy five thousand square miles.
Do you believe in living in years? Ok So they
could be like three a year that die.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Do you think that you know you hear these stories,
Oh one was shot or somebody killed one once?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Do you think that's ever happened. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
It does happen, has happened. Do you think so that
you fallen in California? Did it? He'd been feeding the
mother and son child for two years and then he
shot and killed both of them. That's where the material
for DNA was got to Melvio catch them.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Now, I thought that came from Dennis full in the
Pancake House and the Ericson project.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
No, that part of it. Did it did, But the
so called steak came from this other I won't even
say his name, but his friends as when the when
the first DNA came back, the findings came back, and
it showed humans so much. They got scared for him
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because he was going to talk about arresting him because
he killed a human person.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, so you believe that story, you believe that's real?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh yeah, I've lived through it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I just can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And from the way they sink and they know what
we're going to sink, they know what they had.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
He had been feeding this pair for two years. I
don't think I think they were into him further than
that and trusted and didn't didn't go that that level
with him. But to finish that story, his friends and
went and took that same sight and put Bear there
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to be to deteriorate. Then brought everybody in. Let's go
check this side out and find get some more uh
sasques DNA, knowing they had substituted Mayor. That's where all
the crop came from the attack Melvill catching one of
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her DNA study was from that maneuver. But that was
that was to protect his butt.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Mm hmm, Well why why protect him? Why why protect him?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Because law was looking at him.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, so what he did it was his friends you
still did it.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
And birds of a feather.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, well you're gonna shoot and kill something. You're trying
to kill something, especially like that, which you know if
you ever see.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
One, they well, first of all, it'll blow your mind.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
If you ever see one, you'll be like WHOA, well
what you know, it's just really especially your first one.
Always all the ones I've seen, I'm like, ah, but
when you know the last thing you're going to think
of is wanting I'm gonna kill one.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know, you got that mind already because.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
These people they are they they look like us. I
mean they're hairer and they're bigger, but they walk around
they're like us.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So there's too many people that had rifles and had
intended to shoot one, but when they looked at it
through the scope and looked like they were shooting in
the person and they couldn't do it. Well, just you know,
lots of stories about that.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You know, I'm listening to you, and I trust you,
you know all that kind of thing. But I still
it's just still out on that. I just don't think
that they could allow it to happen. I think they
could go back. I think they can change time and
make all that change.
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