December 18, 2025 • 19 mins
George Noory and author Simeon Hein explore his research into crop circles, the strange electromagnetic effects on machines and people who enter into the formations, and if there could be a connection between crop circles and Bigfoot.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back George, Nori with you, Sime and hinback
with us. He's got a PhD, noted author and researcher,
best known for his work exploring the intersection of frontiers
of science, consciousness, studies, anomalist phenomena. He has earned his
doctorate in sociology from Washington State University, where he focused
on statistics, research methods and social tia change. Sime and
(00:28):
welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Have you been hey, George, Thanks for having me here tonight. Yeah,
I'm doing really well.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Super looking forward to this. You're looking forward to the holidays?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, definitely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How did you get involved from being an expert in
statistics to crop formations, UFOs and strange things?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
George.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's a good question, and it's actually something I think
about once in a while. How did it go from
being a statistics teacher to these very interesting and anomalist subjects.
It really had to do with discovering something called fractal
geometry and chaos theory in graduate school. I always felt
(01:11):
that these statistics methods that I was teaching to undergrads
were kind of artificially limited by the assumptions that are
built into statistical models, you know about linearity and causality
and all that. And when I saw fractal geometry and
other grad student introduced me to that that's the study
of irregular natural shaped objects like trees and clouds and
(01:36):
even radio signals and things like this, objects that are
self similar. It just showed me that nature has a
different sort of logic than the type of logic that
we impose on it. And that led me to the
idea that maybe they're phenomena that we're not studying. And
this is before I got involved with these with these subjects.
It just led me to the idea, there's something we
(01:58):
might be missing. So when I came acro these topics,
I thought these could be the missing subjects that science
isn't actually looking at.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You've got at least four books out right now on
these topics, don't you, Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I do.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And I'm really pleased that I finally came out with
an audio version of my first book, Opening Minds, about
RV and crop circles. That back when I wrote it
in two thousand and two, there were no downloadable ebooks
at least not in the forum they are now, I
mean audiobooks. So I just a couple of weeks ago
(02:32):
I finished turning that into a self narrated audiobook which
is now up on Audible.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yep, what have you concluded about crop circles? Simeon?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Crop circles were one of the most interesting discoveries in
looking at all these subjects because I went over to
the UK initially in nineteen ninety seven. I met someone
who was giving crop circle tour as a guy named
Ron Russell from the Denver area, and I went over
there with an open mind. I had gotten interested in
the idea of crop circles from remote viewing. It was
(03:08):
an RV target that I had done, and I know,
coming out of graduate school, I didn't even know what
the word crop circles was. So once I did this
RV target, I just wanted to get some feedback on it.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I went over with Ron on.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
His tour and I could see within a couple of
days that there were very strange electromagnetic effects.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Around these crop circles.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We would go into them and it would cause strange
effects on your cameras, batteries, electronics and so forth. You
would talk to people they had experienced this to even
professional film crews.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Like BBC National Geographic experienced this.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So that really showed me that there was something to
the symmetry and the mathematical precision of some of the
crop circles that created very it's hard to explain electromagnetic effects.
And by the way, the listeners can see that on
the link that that Le's put up in the biosection.
(04:09):
There they can go and look at some of the
weird things that I've recorded in crop circles, you know,
of other people's cameras and batteries and things failing.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Did their crop circles start in Britain?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know, that's where we It's a good question, George,
we associated with Britain.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
If you look at that book by.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Colin Wilson, The Secret History of Crop Circles, you know,
he goes back to the ancient accounts of crop circles,
their accounts in biblical stories of strange markings in the fields,
you know, which we think may have referred to crop circles.
So they have appeared in different places over this the millennia.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Actually, it's just.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
In modern times they were sort of rediscovered.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It seems in the.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
UK in a big way too, right and in a
big way.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And the thing is, these accounts of crop circles, you know,
there are different sources of them, and they have been
seen around UFOs for decades and decades, and they've also
been seen around mysterious lights orbs ball lightning and so forth,
strange weather patterns, and then more recently, at least in
(05:25):
my view, in the eighties and nineties, people got involved
and started making their own sort of patterns to kind
of duplicate what they were seeing out there. But in
our experience going back there, and I kept going back
year after year, first with Ron and then I started
giving my own tours over there, is that even the
men made ones recreated some of these strange effects. We
(05:49):
eventually started paying farmers to use their fields to make
experimental circles, which we would say were experimental. We would
tell everyone we were making these, and we still found
that our photos turned out blurry, devices stopped working and
so forth. So there's definitely something about the electrostatic charge
(06:09):
in vortex type shapes in fields that seems to play
really in a kind of a nasty way with modern electronics.
It seems to short it out in some way, like
create another sort of space time field where the ordinary
principles of electronics, which, by the way, George, I was
familiar with, having built as a kid, you know, building
(06:32):
radio shack and heath kids, right, Yeah, I was familiar
with electronics just from assembling kids like that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I knew that normally you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
See things shorting out like that, batteries discharging instantly. So
there was something about crop circles that seemed like what
some people call a conditioned space where the ordinary rules
of electricity and magnetism and even time it didn't seem
to play out the same way as in ordinary spaces,
(07:03):
just even in the surrounding field.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did people feel strange in the middle of crop formations?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, that's an interesting question. They really do have a
certain flavor to them that you can feel. It's a
certain it's like a resonance. And some of them make
you feel kind of really upbeat and giddy and playful,
and others that you go into.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Kind of like our downers.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, they just make you feel a little strange,
and you don't stay very long in those ones. So
I would imagine that something about those patterns has an
energetic effect on us that we really don't understand yet,
But you can just sort of intuitively sense that some
of them are really fun to be in and you
stay there for a long time. George, you can even
see this when people bring their pets into crop circles.
(07:53):
Sometimes you'll just see like the dogs like running and
running around the circle in a certain direction. So it
even seems like the dogs can feel that too in
some of them.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Are we still getting crop formations around the world.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
There in my experience that are not as many as
there were before. Certainly when I got involved in the
late nineties, they had already been going on for a while,
And when I was over in the UK a lot
in that time period during the nineties and in the
next decade and going forward, they would be clustered around
(08:33):
the Whilchair area.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I think there.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
May be some of them around, but they seem to
have spread out so they weren't as quite as easy
to find as they were, at least for me in
the earlier days.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
In your opinions, Shamian, what do you think they're for.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm not sure that they're have a function or purpose.
The way we think about it, But they do seem
to make us think about natural landscapes, patterns, shapes, how
you know, they occur in agricultural fields, which we create,
(09:12):
which humans create, So they make you think about the
whole technological structure and if there's some sort of underlying
intelligence that we're sort of going over with our evenly
planted you know, wheat stocks, with those seed planters that
plant them in a very regular way, and all of
a sudden you've got this pattern there, whether it occurs
(09:34):
naturally or whether people have made it that seems to
release some sort of energy. It's almost, George, as if
there's some sort of latent process going on that you
don't see until the pattern's there. So it just reminds
you that nature has its own sort of inherent intelligence
that we may not be looking at all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, and the several years ago you wrote a book
called dark Matter, Monsters, Cryptids, Ball Lightning, and the Science
of Secret life Forms.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, George, one of the biggest shocks to me.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I was teaching, you know, since the nineties, I was
teaching remote viewing in Boulder, Colorado, and a number of
my students over the years told me about their Bigfoot
encounters in the Rockies, in the foothills and in that
area got me interested in it, and I started to
go in conferences and so forth. One of the biggest
surprises to meet George was finding out that there was
(10:28):
a crop circle Bigfoot connection, just in the sense that
people who had been around Bigfoot also experienced the same
type of camera and battery failure and electronics failure and
failure to their automobiles that people had seen in and
around prop circles. You can see this in Dave Polaidi's
(10:49):
new movie American Sasquatch that just came out, or the
previous movie A Flash of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot, where people
talk about these strange effects of these creatures encryptids on
their cameras. So for me, that was just a connection
right there, is there has to be some sort of
similarity between these phenomena if they're affecting our devices in
(11:09):
the same anomalous way, Is.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It that dramatic?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Simeon, It is that dramatic.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I when I've talked to people who've had these Bigfoot encounters,
they not only would they say they felt this sort
of mental confusion, like they didn't even know where they
were anymore. They couldn't even find their cars. They would
tell me that their iPhones or whatever camera they were
using drained instantly. And that's exactly what we saw in
(11:39):
the crop circles. So there must be and get I
could be wrong about this, People could have other explanations,
but there must be some sort of similar alternative type
of MAXWELLI and electromagnetics going on there to make batteries
and electronics just kind of short out like that. And
again you can go to this playlist lex put up.
(12:00):
You can see how quickly this affects people's cameras. If
don't take my word for it, you can watch these
videos on my YouTube playlist of crop circle weirdness to
see it for yourself and people who've been around Bigfoot, George.
And you can see it in the two movies that
I just mentioned say the same thing happens. Plus you
also get the orbs, the balls of light, the sort
(12:23):
of space time distortion.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So they're in my.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
View, George, a lot of what we call power normal
phenomena might have the same sort of underlying structure underneath
it if we get to understand it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So mean, do these effects eventually wear off and go away,
or do they still stay out there?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Now, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Often I talk to people who had had that camera
failure in some of these crop circles in the UK,
and I wanted to follow up with them about exactly
what you're saying. Did their cameras recover for some people?
And I remember seeing this in my own cameras and batteries.
Sometimes they would come back to life like a day
(13:05):
or two later. But I spoke to people that said
that it might take a couple months of leaving the
camera in a drawer or something or their phone and
then it started working again properly. And you get that
same sort of response not only around Bigfoot of cryptids,
but ghosts, haunted sites right UFOs, extraterrestrial types of contact again,
(13:29):
which leads me to think that we're dealing with a
sort of similar type of electromagnetic effects where the laws
in that the laws of electromagnetics in that particular area
are just so radically different than what we're used to.
The permittivity, permeability of space of the magnetic and electric
constants could have changed that it takes a while for
(13:52):
those devices again to adjust to the usual conditions that
they're created in.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Does anything happened to the people who go in these
circles health wise, either but positive or negative?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
George.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There were a lot of cases I remember these, especially
from the nineties, where people felt that they had been
healed by going into crop circles. They felt that they
had an illness when they went in, and they felt
that it made them better after having been in the circle.
I mean, I can't validate that, you know myself. Actually,
(14:28):
you know, I'm not a doctor or anything, so I
can't medically say what happened. But that's what people report
having happened to them. And occasionally you would go in
some that made you feel a little ill for a
little while. But you know, on the bigger way of
looking at it, George, it affects people in terms of
how they see reality. I mean myself included. You start
(14:50):
questioning things that you might not have questioned before, and
looking into math and shapes and geometry and how that
fits into landscapes and so forth. So it can kind
of have a lasting effect on your mental you know,
your outlook on reality. You're like, you're basic your paradigm
that you kind of are looking at things.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
From by being in a crop formation. Does anything happen
in terms of time with people? Do they seem like
they're in another parallel dimension or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I wrote about that in Dark Matter Monsters. I
wrote about a case. This actually was from Ron Russell.
He had an experience where he was in a circle
with a whole bunch of other folks in the Avebury
area in Wiltshire, Avebury village within that Avebury Stone Circle.
(15:43):
He went out to get some batteries in his car
and he felt like he had been gone for maybe
forty five minutes. He also encountered people speaking an older
type of English dressed in a different type of garb. Anyway,
when he got back, the people in the group said
he had only been gone for five minutes, but he
(16:04):
felt like he had had a weird sort of what
we call a time shift. So it does seem associated
with those same sort of time shifts that people have
around UFO, sometimes around Bigfoot and other cryptids, again making
you think that there's some sort of commonality between those phenomena.
(16:25):
But one more thing, George, just to mention about that
the effects of these phenomena can vary a lot. Obviously,
on places like Skinwalker Ranch and other places people have
encountered orbs and phenomena like that that seem to sometimes
have a negative health effect. So it seems that there
can be both positive and negative effects. I don't think
(16:46):
we completely understand why that would happen, but there seems
to be a real range of effects. But I would
say mostly around the crop circles, mostly a positive effect.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, do you find that the longer somebody is in
a formation a crop circle, the more these strange things happen.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
What it seems to do is open up your perception
to the possibility that these things can happen. And as
you know, George, that's a big part of it is
our sort of outlook and like for someone like myself,
I go and I'm just out of graduate school. I
don't know very much about any of these subjects. The
more you encounter people that have had these strange experiences
(17:28):
in cropsals like these time shifts and experiencing orbs or
small UFO UAP type objects that are sometimes seen around
the crops, or the more you talk to people like that,
the more you are open to the possibility that this
could be real, and you start looking for it yourself.
(17:49):
So there's this sort of gradual mind expanding effect which
I think allows you eventually to experience more rather than
just pushing it away and just as soon as things
feel a little different immediately wanting to turn the whole
experience off. You're kind of accept the fact that you're
just in an area of you know, what you would
(18:11):
call strangeness for lack of a better word, and you're
sort of looking for symptoms of that now rather than
just kind of explaining it in the nuts and bolts way.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
How long does the wheat through the corner whatever was
in the middle of the circle bounce back to its
original shape?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It does, Actually the wheat if people didn't walk.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
In it, the wheat as we saw it would eventually
go back to its ordinary standing position. But as you know,
people walk in it, so it kind of keeps it
down and then it sort of gets ground into the soil.
There are these ghost circles that pop up because people
walk in the circles. It pushes the seedheads into the soil,
(18:55):
and then the next season you sometimes in.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Some areas you get sort of this fan.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Emptum crop circle shape appearing just for where people walked
on the seed.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back George, Nori with you, Sime and hinback
with us. He's got a PhD, noted author and researcher,
best known for his work exploring the intersection of frontiers
of science, consciousness, studies, anomalist phenomena. He has earned his
doctorate in sociology from Washington State University, where he focused
on statistics, research methods and social tia change. Sime and
(00:28):
welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Have you been hey, George, Thanks for having me here tonight. Yeah,
I'm doing really well.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Super looking forward to this. You're looking forward to the holidays?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, definitely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How did you get involved from being an expert in
statistics to crop formations, UFOs and strange things?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
George.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's a good question, and it's actually something I think
about once in a while. How did it go from
being a statistics teacher to these very interesting and anomalist subjects.
It really had to do with discovering something called fractal
geometry and chaos theory in graduate school. I always felt
(01:11):
that these statistics methods that I was teaching to undergrads
were kind of artificially limited by the assumptions that are
built into statistical models, you know about linearity and causality
and all that. And when I saw fractal geometry and
other grad student introduced me to that that's the study
of irregular natural shaped objects like trees and clouds and
(01:36):
even radio signals and things like this, objects that are
self similar. It just showed me that nature has a
different sort of logic than the type of logic that
we impose on it. And that led me to the
idea that maybe they're phenomena that we're not studying. And
this is before I got involved with these with these subjects.
It just led me to the idea, there's something we
(01:58):
might be missing. So when I came acro these topics,
I thought these could be the missing subjects that science
isn't actually looking at.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You've got at least four books out right now on
these topics, don't you, Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I do.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And I'm really pleased that I finally came out with
an audio version of my first book, Opening Minds, about
RV and crop circles. That back when I wrote it
in two thousand and two, there were no downloadable ebooks
at least not in the forum they are now, I
mean audiobooks. So I just a couple of weeks ago
(02:32):
I finished turning that into a self narrated audiobook which
is now up on Audible.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yep, what have you concluded about crop circles? Simeon?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Crop circles were one of the most interesting discoveries in
looking at all these subjects because I went over to
the UK initially in nineteen ninety seven. I met someone
who was giving crop circle tour as a guy named
Ron Russell from the Denver area, and I went over
there with an open mind. I had gotten interested in
the idea of crop circles from remote viewing. It was
(03:08):
an RV target that I had done, and I know,
coming out of graduate school, I didn't even know what
the word crop circles was. So once I did this
RV target, I just wanted to get some feedback on it.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I went over with Ron on.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
His tour and I could see within a couple of
days that there were very strange electromagnetic effects.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Around these crop circles.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
We would go into them and it would cause strange
effects on your cameras, batteries, electronics and so forth. You
would talk to people they had experienced this to even
professional film crews.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Like BBC National Geographic experienced this.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So that really showed me that there was something to
the symmetry and the mathematical precision of some of the
crop circles that created very it's hard to explain electromagnetic effects.
And by the way, the listeners can see that on
the link that that Le's put up in the biosection.
(04:09):
There they can go and look at some of the
weird things that I've recorded in crop circles, you know,
of other people's cameras and batteries and things failing.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Did their crop circles start in Britain?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know, that's where we It's a good question, George,
we associated with Britain.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
If you look at that book by.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Colin Wilson, The Secret History of Crop Circles, you know,
he goes back to the ancient accounts of crop circles,
their accounts in biblical stories of strange markings in the fields,
you know, which we think may have referred to crop circles.
So they have appeared in different places over this the millennia.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Actually, it's just.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
In modern times they were sort of rediscovered.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It seems in the.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
UK in a big way too, right and in a
big way.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And the thing is, these accounts of crop circles, you know,
there are different sources of them, and they have been
seen around UFOs for decades and decades, and they've also
been seen around mysterious lights orbs ball lightning and so forth,
strange weather patterns, and then more recently, at least in
(05:25):
my view, in the eighties and nineties, people got involved
and started making their own sort of patterns to kind
of duplicate what they were seeing out there. But in
our experience going back there, and I kept going back
year after year, first with Ron and then I started
giving my own tours over there, is that even the
men made ones recreated some of these strange effects. We
(05:49):
eventually started paying farmers to use their fields to make
experimental circles, which we would say were experimental. We would
tell everyone we were making these, and we still found
that our photos turned out blurry, devices stopped working and
so forth. So there's definitely something about the electrostatic charge
(06:09):
in vortex type shapes in fields that seems to play
really in a kind of a nasty way with modern electronics.
It seems to short it out in some way, like
create another sort of space time field where the ordinary
principles of electronics, which, by the way, George, I was
familiar with, having built as a kid, you know, building
(06:32):
radio shack and heath kids, right, Yeah, I was familiar
with electronics just from assembling kids like that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I knew that normally you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
See things shorting out like that, batteries discharging instantly. So
there was something about crop circles that seemed like what
some people call a conditioned space where the ordinary rules
of electricity and magnetism and even time it didn't seem
to play out the same way as in ordinary spaces,
(07:03):
just even in the surrounding field.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Did people feel strange in the middle of crop formations?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, that's an interesting question. They really do have a
certain flavor to them that you can feel. It's a
certain it's like a resonance. And some of them make
you feel kind of really upbeat and giddy and playful,
and others that you go into.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Kind of like our downers.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, they just make you feel a little strange,
and you don't stay very long in those ones. So
I would imagine that something about those patterns has an
energetic effect on us that we really don't understand yet,
But you can just sort of intuitively sense that some
of them are really fun to be in and you
stay there for a long time. George, you can even
see this when people bring their pets into crop circles.
(07:53):
Sometimes you'll just see like the dogs like running and
running around the circle in a certain direction. So it
even seems like the dogs can feel that too in
some of them.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Are we still getting crop formations around the world.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
There in my experience that are not as many as
there were before. Certainly when I got involved in the
late nineties, they had already been going on for a while,
And when I was over in the UK a lot
in that time period during the nineties and in the
next decade and going forward, they would be clustered around
(08:33):
the Whilchair area.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I think there.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
May be some of them around, but they seem to
have spread out so they weren't as quite as easy
to find as they were, at least for me in
the earlier days.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
In your opinions, Shamian, what do you think they're for.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I'm not sure that they're have a function or purpose.
The way we think about it, But they do seem
to make us think about natural landscapes, patterns, shapes, how
you know, they occur in agricultural fields, which we create,
(09:12):
which humans create, So they make you think about the
whole technological structure and if there's some sort of underlying
intelligence that we're sort of going over with our evenly
planted you know, wheat stocks, with those seed planters that
plant them in a very regular way, and all of
a sudden you've got this pattern there, whether it occurs
(09:34):
naturally or whether people have made it that seems to
release some sort of energy. It's almost, George, as if
there's some sort of latent process going on that you
don't see until the pattern's there. So it just reminds
you that nature has its own sort of inherent intelligence
that we may not be looking at all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, and the several years ago you wrote a book
called dark Matter, Monsters, Cryptids, Ball Lightning, and the Science
of Secret life Forms.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, George, one of the biggest shocks to me.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I was teaching, you know, since the nineties, I was
teaching remote viewing in Boulder, Colorado, and a number of
my students over the years told me about their Bigfoot
encounters in the Rockies, in the foothills and in that
area got me interested in it, and I started to
go in conferences and so forth. One of the biggest
surprises to meet George was finding out that there was
(10:28):
a crop circle Bigfoot connection, just in the sense that
people who had been around Bigfoot also experienced the same
type of camera and battery failure and electronics failure and
failure to their automobiles that people had seen in and
around prop circles. You can see this in Dave Polaidi's
(10:49):
new movie American Sasquatch that just came out, or the
previous movie A Flash of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot, where people
talk about these strange effects of these creatures encryptids on
their cameras. So for me, that was just a connection
right there, is there has to be some sort of
similarity between these phenomena if they're affecting our devices in
(11:09):
the same anomalous way, Is.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It that dramatic?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Simeon, It is that dramatic.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I when I've talked to people who've had these Bigfoot encounters,
they not only would they say they felt this sort
of mental confusion, like they didn't even know where they
were anymore. They couldn't even find their cars. They would
tell me that their iPhones or whatever camera they were
using drained instantly. And that's exactly what we saw in
(11:39):
the crop circles. So there must be and get I
could be wrong about this, People could have other explanations,
but there must be some sort of similar alternative type
of MAXWELLI and electromagnetics going on there to make batteries
and electronics just kind of short out like that. And
again you can go to this playlist lex put up.
(12:00):
You can see how quickly this affects people's cameras. If
don't take my word for it, you can watch these
videos on my YouTube playlist of crop circle weirdness to
see it for yourself and people who've been around Bigfoot, George.
And you can see it in the two movies that
I just mentioned say the same thing happens. Plus you
also get the orbs, the balls of light, the sort
(12:23):
of space time distortion.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So they're in my.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
View, George, a lot of what we call power normal
phenomena might have the same sort of underlying structure underneath
it if we get to understand it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
So mean, do these effects eventually wear off and go away,
or do they still stay out there?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Now, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Often I talk to people who had had that camera
failure in some of these crop circles in the UK,
and I wanted to follow up with them about exactly
what you're saying. Did their cameras recover for some people?
And I remember seeing this in my own cameras and batteries.
Sometimes they would come back to life like a day
(13:05):
or two later. But I spoke to people that said
that it might take a couple months of leaving the
camera in a drawer or something or their phone and
then it started working again properly. And you get that
same sort of response not only around Bigfoot of cryptids,
but ghosts, haunted sites right UFOs, extraterrestrial types of contact again,
(13:29):
which leads me to think that we're dealing with a
sort of similar type of electromagnetic effects where the laws
in that the laws of electromagnetics in that particular area
are just so radically different than what we're used to.
The permittivity, permeability of space of the magnetic and electric
constants could have changed that it takes a while for
(13:52):
those devices again to adjust to the usual conditions that
they're created in.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Does anything happened to the people who go in these
circles health wise, either but positive or negative?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
George.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There were a lot of cases I remember these, especially
from the nineties, where people felt that they had been
healed by going into crop circles. They felt that they
had an illness when they went in, and they felt
that it made them better after having been in the circle.
I mean, I can't validate that, you know myself. Actually,
(14:28):
you know, I'm not a doctor or anything, so I
can't medically say what happened. But that's what people report
having happened to them. And occasionally you would go in
some that made you feel a little ill for a
little while. But you know, on the bigger way of
looking at it, George, it affects people in terms of
how they see reality. I mean myself included. You start
(14:50):
questioning things that you might not have questioned before, and
looking into math and shapes and geometry and how that
fits into landscapes and so forth. So it can kind
of have a lasting effect on your mental you know,
your outlook on reality. You're like, you're basic your paradigm
that you kind of are looking at things.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
From by being in a crop formation. Does anything happen
in terms of time with people? Do they seem like
they're in another parallel dimension or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, I wrote about that in Dark Matter Monsters. I
wrote about a case. This actually was from Ron Russell.
He had an experience where he was in a circle
with a whole bunch of other folks in the Avebury
area in Wiltshire, Avebury village within that Avebury Stone Circle.
(15:43):
He went out to get some batteries in his car
and he felt like he had been gone for maybe
forty five minutes. He also encountered people speaking an older
type of English dressed in a different type of garb. Anyway,
when he got back, the people in the group said
he had only been gone for five minutes, but he
(16:04):
felt like he had had a weird sort of what
we call a time shift. So it does seem associated
with those same sort of time shifts that people have
around UFO, sometimes around Bigfoot and other cryptids, again making
you think that there's some sort of commonality between those phenomena.
(16:25):
But one more thing, George, just to mention about that
the effects of these phenomena can vary a lot. Obviously,
on places like Skinwalker Ranch and other places people have
encountered orbs and phenomena like that that seem to sometimes
have a negative health effect. So it seems that there
can be both positive and negative effects. I don't think
(16:46):
we completely understand why that would happen, but there seems
to be a real range of effects. But I would
say mostly around the crop circles, mostly a positive effect.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, do you find that the longer somebody is in
a formation a crop circle, the more these strange things happen.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
What it seems to do is open up your perception
to the possibility that these things can happen. And as
you know, George, that's a big part of it is
our sort of outlook and like for someone like myself,
I go and I'm just out of graduate school. I
don't know very much about any of these subjects. The
more you encounter people that have had these strange experiences
(17:28):
in cropsals like these time shifts and experiencing orbs or
small UFO UAP type objects that are sometimes seen around
the crops, or the more you talk to people like that,
the more you are open to the possibility that this
could be real, and you start looking for it yourself.
(17:49):
So there's this sort of gradual mind expanding effect which
I think allows you eventually to experience more rather than
just pushing it away and just as soon as things
feel a little different immediately wanting to turn the whole
experience off. You're kind of accept the fact that you're
just in an area of you know, what you would
(18:11):
call strangeness for lack of a better word, and you're
sort of looking for symptoms of that now rather than
just kind of explaining it in the nuts and bolts way.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
How long does the wheat through the corner whatever was
in the middle of the circle bounce back to its
original shape?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It does, Actually the wheat if people didn't walk.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
In it, the wheat as we saw it would eventually
go back to its ordinary standing position. But as you know,
people walk in it, so it kind of keeps it
down and then it sort of gets ground into the soil.
There are these ghost circles that pop up because people
walk in the circles. It pushes the seedheads into the soil,
(18:55):
and then the next season you sometimes in.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Some areas you get sort of this fan.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Emptum crop circle shape appearing just for where people walked
on the seed.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
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