June 30, 2025 • 17 mins
Guest Host Ricard Syrett and neuroscience researcher David Jay Brown and writer Sara Phinn Huntley tell stories of DMT experiences. Sara's involves an alien planet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio, and.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are back with David J.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Brown, seasoned explorer of consciousness and a writer Sarah Finn Huntley,
visionary artist and writer in the book is The Illustrated
Guide to DMT Entities. David, what can you tell me
about extended state DMT research where allowing DMT users I guess,
(00:28):
to stay in this realm or this hyperspace longer. What's
going on there?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I think that's some of the most exciting scientific
research going on right now. I think some of the
most exciting scientific research that's ever gone on. You know,
as I mentioned earlier in our conversation, the DMT experience is,
you know, generally lasts around ten or fifteen minutes when
it's done its pure form. It's very very quickly metabolized
(00:57):
by the body, and so the actual psychedelic experience and
the journey into hyperspace is very quick. With what they're
doing at the Imperial College in London, at the Medicinal
Mind Mindfulness Institute in Colorado, and around three other places
around the globe, one in Switzerland, one in Holland is
(01:19):
is they're putting people out into extended state d n
T experiences and uh, and this is this has done
the way you you know, the way that you receive
an anesthetic, you know, during surgery, where we're continuously being
infused with a you know, with a steady dosage of
(01:40):
d n T, so that so that you're constantly can
maintain that state and and the body doesn't develop any
kind of tolerance to d n T, so it so
it's a it's actually a fairly fairly simple process to
be able to do this, and uh, you know, and
and what we're hoping is that as the people and
(02:02):
have a you know, extended experiences with these entities and
bring back more more more information than you can with
a ten or fifteen minute experience. So far, the first
study that's been done at Imperial College in London has
shown that the d MT is is well tolerated by
the body, that it's non toxic, and that there aren't
(02:24):
any complications beyond the beyond the you know, the the
anxiety that some people feel from from from going into
the state, which is, like I said, requires a fair
amount of courage. It's not an easy experience to go into.
But some people are better suited to than others. I
interviewed a couple of a couple of the subjects, Carl
(02:44):
Hayden Smith and Alexander Biner, about their experiences. They both
went out for benning an hour into the experience, and
they have incredible stories to share about about their adventures,
adventures and hyperspace and what they're doing now. The present
study that they're doing is there. They're sending people out
(03:07):
in teams. They're sending people out together to see if
they can they can link up in hyper space and
explore these other worlds simultaneously or as part of as
part of a part of a cooperative team team effort.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh wait a second, So you're that would be fascinating
if you had two individuals, maybe even in different locations. Uh,
and they're going on one of these extended state d
MT trips. You're saying that once they're in this realm,
let's call it, that they might have shared experiences.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. People report that people,
many people who have DMC experiences together say that that
that's what happens. So this is going to be I
think the research has already started. I haven't haven't get
any reason yet, but I think they've already started doing
this at Imperial College in London, and this, of course,
you know what would give greater credence to the idea
(04:08):
that there really is an independently existing reality if people
can link up together and explore these realms as a team.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Sarah, is that an assignment you would you'd sign up for?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, absolutely, I would definitely sign up for that. I
quite a bit about it. Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Aside from the entities, I mean is what does this
realm look like? The architecture of it? I mean, are
you able to navigate it? Can you like move from
one sort of space into another while you're in this realm?
Or are these entities just sort of floating around you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You can definitely navigate. You're there, you know, just like
you're in a lucid dream, just like you're you know,
you're in the radio studio right now. You're fully there
and you can move around. Many people people report different
types of environments, but but one of the most consistent
that I've heard is that people feel like they're in
some kind of an enclosed space. That's said that where
(05:17):
there's a lot of a lot of high technology around them,
machines or or tubes or wires or some kind of futuristic,
uh seeming technology. People often described being underground, that they're
in some kind of underground or cavern like space. But
but there's a you know, there's there's really a wide range.
(05:39):
You know, some people, I know Sarah has an experience
where she was felt like she was on the surface
of an alien planet, you know one time. So and
other people have reported being in in like rainforest situations.
But uh, but there is this this really consistent, consistent
reporting of people being in these sort of enclosed, high
(05:59):
technology spaces that seem like laboratories or the inside of spaceships. Ah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So that brings us back to perhaps again the alien
abduction phenomenon and some crossover there. But Sarah, your experience
perhaps on the surface of another planet, tell me about it.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, that was my latest DMT experience, which was a
number of years ago, probably close to five years ago
at this point. I've done a lot of work over
the past couple decades, but I'd taken an extensive break
after this experience, in particular because it was just so
vivid that it was a lot to process but yeah,
(06:41):
I had been speaking earlier about that sort of phenomenon
where the in between phase, where you're between this sort
of normal, waking default reality. In this DMT hyperspace, there's
kind of a bardo quality where it's a liminal space
and you're not necessarily like tuned in completely to that
(07:02):
radio frequency just yet, and so there's a lot of
noise which will look like fractaline rainbow noise, kind of
reminiscent a little bit too, perhaps what Alison Gray paints
and some of her work with xeno linguistic figures. But
my experience breaking through the veil, so to speak, and
(07:26):
ending up on the surface of an alien planet was
really crazy because you, after enough times in hyperspace, you
see different environments, but you don't necessarily see something as
kind of terrestrial or normal looking as a horizon with
a sky and you know, flora and fauna. These two
beings approached me and they looked like they were completely
(07:48):
cloaked in a silhouette of black. So they just looked
like a complete wash like van to black. For people
who are familiar with you know, art kind of paint.
It's a highly absorptive. It just absorbs all light, and
these beings approached me and shared with me this kind
of hyperdimensional diagnostic artifact, and it was kind of like
(08:12):
a super complicated Rubik's cube, and they essentially asked me
if I could understand the geometry and the math within it,
and it would be transforming and morphing, and they would
just sort of keep checking in and seeing if my
perception was following along with how this object was morphing
(08:33):
in these multiple dimensions. They proceeded to do sort of
an archetypal scan, like in a lot of ayahuasca experiences,
people would describe having these sort of spirit surgeons run
a scan on them and scan their body and their
spirit and their aura. And they ran a scan and
at the time, I was dealing with a little bit
of depression, just full transparency there, and they, speaking of transparency,
(08:59):
they saw it in there, like, oh, yeah, you look
like you've been sad, and I was like, well, I
suppose that's the case. And they did this bizarre trepanation.
For people who don't know what that is, it's just
a word that refers to like a skull surgery that
you know, some older sort of like neolithic cultures would
do and create a hole in someone's skull to let
(09:22):
the spirits in. They sort of did this crazy hyperdimensional
trepanation and they looked inside my skull and it felt
like looking inside a large gourd, and they kind of
flashed some black and white by neural code and kind
of tinkered around in there. And I just sat very
patiently like a little kid at the doctor's office, having
(09:42):
a doctor sort of looked me over. But yeah, it
was really vivid. The vividness alone was the quality that
made me pause and just really sit with that experience
because it had that more real than real quality. But
it's also interesting because it had those ayahuasca like sort
(10:03):
of spirit surgeons that did their scam. But yeah, that
was my sort of alien planet exploration.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Did it alleviate? Did it alleviate your depression?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know? When I was coming back, I felt so elated.
There's a really unique, beautiful yufort quality to a lot
of the body high for myself when I go to
hyperspace as well as when I come back, and the
environment sort of covered in this beautiful holographic sort of sugarcoat,
(10:39):
and so it's so temporarily like it's definitely that awe
is very inspiring for me and very beautiful, and it
puts me in a nice place mentally, although it kind
of messed with my dream escape after that, and that
was one of the things that led to some of
my a little bit more reserved nature with regard to over.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
The past couple of years, David, do people report seeing
dead relatives or loved ones during a d m T experience.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, that's that's that's fairly common, actually, and that's that's
one of the you have a whole section in our
book about that is the ancestor entities. It's it's it's
not uncommon during during a full strength d m T experience,
but it's specially prevalent with ayahuasca experiences, the shamanic brew
(11:35):
that incorporates d m T. Uh. In fact, that's one
of the primary things that it's used for in the
in the Amazon, it is for shamans to make contact
with with, you know, ancestor spirits and nature spirits. So
it's uh it's and in fact, that's what the word
ayahuasca means. It means the vine of the dead. So
(11:57):
I've certainly encountered a lot of reports and a lot
of people shared with me experiences that they had with
with departed loved ones and uh people who had just
crossed over. And this allowed in many cases people to
have some kind of reconciliation or to be able to say,
you know, a kind of final goodbye, or to you know,
(12:17):
get a you know, get a confirmation that the person's
spirit is okay on the on the other side of
the veil. You know, people have wondered if maybe you know,
all of the d N T entities really are are
our souls, you know, who have departed this world, and
that this is the next stage of our spiritual evolution,
you know, is to become these these types of entities,
(12:40):
and and and maybe that's certainly what a lot of
a lot of Shamans take that kind of perspective, that
the that the beings that we meet over there or
the departed souls from from this world.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Some d M subjects have claimed entities provided protocols for
future content. I mean, this is what do you think
this is? Suggests interdimensional diplomacy or is something more I
don't know, unsettling.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, And in the medicinal mindfulness study that they're doing
in Colorado, I know that the some of the entity contact.
They gave them instructions for how to produce better d
m T infusion so people could use the technology to
(13:30):
contact the beings more efficiently. And this almost sounds like
something out of out of Carl Sagan's, you know, the
science fiction novel Contact. You know that they're the entities
themselves are providing technology. I I think this is uh,
this is an exciting development.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
One of the things that I think that the the
extended state d MT studies that they're doing in Imperial
cology and elsewhere, if they lead to you know, to
to more extended conversations with the entities, perhaps they could
share with us, you know, I mean, you know, new
new forms of science, or you know, new forms of energy,
(14:09):
or you know, you know science fiction technologies like you know,
matter transporters or time machines or or different things of that. Elk.
I mean, we're you know, we could be conversing with
with entities that are hundreds, if not thousands of years
more evolved than us, and what kind of what kind
of technology could they share with us. It's just uh,
(14:30):
it's just uh, it's just mind bodling boggling. And I
think gives us tremendous cause for hope.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Uh, Sarah, do you have Do you develop a personal
relationship with these entities? Do they know you by name?
Do they recognize you? Oh, you know you've been here before?
Do they know your your history.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I've definitely had encounters with entities that remember me, and
then also into tees that sort of knew of me
via other entities that they were in communication with. Like
it's sort of a clown or a gesture entity being like, oh,
(15:15):
this is one I've come in contact with before. Does
tend to be slightly vague. Sometimes there will be hints
of specificity. Sometimes there will be sort of like gestures
of and I'm going to just say that word again
just in case people thought I said gestures. I was
(15:36):
saying gesture, you know, like an act or you know. Yeah.
So these these entities at times have kind of done
things out of a sense of rapport, which I've found
sort of like intriguing but charming. I had a what
we would call formauasca, which is essentially when you smoke
(15:59):
d MT, but you have a monolimoxine inhibitor, so it's
kind of like a sort of a reverse engineered ayahuasca,
But I had an experience one time where I was
just having an extremely intense visual experience. It was kind
of like hyperspace without the nice smoothing or dream time
(16:20):
augmentation that you might get from ayahuasca, which has that
same chemical combination the MOI and the d MT. But
in that moment of being overwhelmed and having this crazy
plasma city, you know, revealing itself to me in this vision,
a large red elf kind of stood between me and
(16:44):
that intensity, as if to block my sight from it,
not in a way to deny me or censor my vision,
but to kind of just do me a favor, you know,
blocking me from the sun, be like, hey, here's some
shade that seems like it's kind of intense for you
right now. And I definitely think that there's there's a
sense of rapport. I've experienced entities that seem to recognize
(17:10):
that we're having a serial encounter, which is cool.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Listen to more Coast to Coast am every weeknight at
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio, and.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are back with David J.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Brown, seasoned explorer of consciousness and a writer Sarah Finn Huntley,
visionary artist and writer in the book is The Illustrated
Guide to DMT Entities. David, what can you tell me
about extended state DMT research where allowing DMT users I guess,
(00:28):
to stay in this realm or this hyperspace longer. What's
going on there?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, I think that's some of the most exciting scientific
research going on right now. I think some of the
most exciting scientific research that's ever gone on. You know,
as I mentioned earlier in our conversation, the DMT experience is,
you know, generally lasts around ten or fifteen minutes when
it's done its pure form. It's very very quickly metabolized
(00:57):
by the body, and so the actual psychedelic experience and
the journey into hyperspace is very quick. With what they're
doing at the Imperial College in London, at the Medicinal
Mind Mindfulness Institute in Colorado, and around three other places
around the globe, one in Switzerland, one in Holland is
(01:19):
is they're putting people out into extended state d n
T experiences and uh, and this is this has done
the way you you know, the way that you receive
an anesthetic, you know, during surgery, where we're continuously being
infused with a you know, with a steady dosage of
(01:40):
d n T, so that so that you're constantly can
maintain that state and and the body doesn't develop any
kind of tolerance to d n T, so it so
it's a it's actually a fairly fairly simple process to
be able to do this, and uh, you know, and
and what we're hoping is that as the people and
(02:02):
have a you know, extended experiences with these entities and
bring back more more more information than you can with
a ten or fifteen minute experience. So far, the first
study that's been done at Imperial College in London has
shown that the d MT is is well tolerated by
the body, that it's non toxic, and that there aren't
(02:24):
any complications beyond the beyond the you know, the the
anxiety that some people feel from from from going into
the state, which is, like I said, requires a fair
amount of courage. It's not an easy experience to go into.
But some people are better suited to than others. I
interviewed a couple of a couple of the subjects, Carl
(02:44):
Hayden Smith and Alexander Biner, about their experiences. They both
went out for benning an hour into the experience, and
they have incredible stories to share about about their adventures,
adventures and hyperspace and what they're doing now. The present
study that they're doing is there. They're sending people out
(03:07):
in teams. They're sending people out together to see if
they can they can link up in hyper space and
explore these other worlds simultaneously or as part of as
part of a part of a cooperative team team effort.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh wait a second, So you're that would be fascinating
if you had two individuals, maybe even in different locations. Uh,
and they're going on one of these extended state d
MT trips. You're saying that once they're in this realm,
let's call it, that they might have shared experiences.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. People report that people,
many people who have DMC experiences together say that that
that's what happens. So this is going to be I
think the research has already started. I haven't haven't get
any reason yet, but I think they've already started doing
this at Imperial College in London, and this, of course,
you know what would give greater credence to the idea
(04:08):
that there really is an independently existing reality if people
can link up together and explore these realms as a team.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Sarah, is that an assignment you would you'd sign up for?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, absolutely, I would definitely sign up for that. I
quite a bit about it. Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Aside from the entities, I mean is what does this
realm look like? The architecture of it? I mean, are
you able to navigate it? Can you like move from
one sort of space into another while you're in this realm?
Or are these entities just sort of floating around you? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You can definitely navigate. You're there, you know, just like
you're in a lucid dream, just like you're you know,
you're in the radio studio right now. You're fully there
and you can move around. Many people people report different
types of environments, but but one of the most consistent
that I've heard is that people feel like they're in
some kind of an enclosed space. That's said that where
(05:17):
there's a lot of a lot of high technology around them,
machines or or tubes or wires or some kind of futuristic,
uh seeming technology. People often described being underground, that they're
in some kind of underground or cavern like space. But
but there's a you know, there's there's really a wide range.
(05:39):
You know, some people, I know Sarah has an experience
where she was felt like she was on the surface
of an alien planet, you know one time. So and
other people have reported being in in like rainforest situations.
But uh, but there is this this really consistent, consistent
reporting of people being in these sort of enclosed, high
(05:59):
technology spaces that seem like laboratories or the inside of spaceships. Ah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
So that brings us back to perhaps again the alien
abduction phenomenon and some crossover there. But Sarah, your experience
perhaps on the surface of another planet, tell me about it.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, that was my latest DMT experience, which was a
number of years ago, probably close to five years ago
at this point. I've done a lot of work over
the past couple decades, but I'd taken an extensive break
after this experience, in particular because it was just so
vivid that it was a lot to process but yeah,
(06:41):
I had been speaking earlier about that sort of phenomenon
where the in between phase, where you're between this sort
of normal, waking default reality. In this DMT hyperspace, there's
kind of a bardo quality where it's a liminal space
and you're not necessarily like tuned in completely to that
(07:02):
radio frequency just yet, and so there's a lot of
noise which will look like fractaline rainbow noise, kind of
reminiscent a little bit too, perhaps what Alison Gray paints
and some of her work with xeno linguistic figures. But
my experience breaking through the veil, so to speak, and
(07:26):
ending up on the surface of an alien planet was
really crazy because you, after enough times in hyperspace, you
see different environments, but you don't necessarily see something as
kind of terrestrial or normal looking as a horizon with
a sky and you know, flora and fauna. These two
beings approached me and they looked like they were completely
(07:48):
cloaked in a silhouette of black. So they just looked
like a complete wash like van to black. For people
who are familiar with you know, art kind of paint.
It's a highly absorptive. It just absorbs all light, and
these beings approached me and shared with me this kind
of hyperdimensional diagnostic artifact, and it was kind of like
(08:12):
a super complicated Rubik's cube, and they essentially asked me
if I could understand the geometry and the math within it,
and it would be transforming and morphing, and they would
just sort of keep checking in and seeing if my
perception was following along with how this object was morphing
(08:33):
in these multiple dimensions. They proceeded to do sort of
an archetypal scan, like in a lot of ayahuasca experiences,
people would describe having these sort of spirit surgeons run
a scan on them and scan their body and their
spirit and their aura. And they ran a scan and
at the time, I was dealing with a little bit
of depression, just full transparency there, and they, speaking of transparency,
(08:59):
they saw it in there, like, oh, yeah, you look
like you've been sad, and I was like, well, I
suppose that's the case. And they did this bizarre trepanation.
For people who don't know what that is, it's just
a word that refers to like a skull surgery that
you know, some older sort of like neolithic cultures would
do and create a hole in someone's skull to let
(09:22):
the spirits in. They sort of did this crazy hyperdimensional
trepanation and they looked inside my skull and it felt
like looking inside a large gourd, and they kind of
flashed some black and white by neural code and kind
of tinkered around in there. And I just sat very
patiently like a little kid at the doctor's office, having
(09:42):
a doctor sort of looked me over. But yeah, it
was really vivid. The vividness alone was the quality that
made me pause and just really sit with that experience
because it had that more real than real quality. But
it's also interesting because it had those ayahuasca like sort
(10:03):
of spirit surgeons that did their scam. But yeah, that
was my sort of alien planet exploration.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Did it alleviate? Did it alleviate your depression?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
You know? When I was coming back, I felt so elated.
There's a really unique, beautiful yufort quality to a lot
of the body high for myself when I go to
hyperspace as well as when I come back, and the
environment sort of covered in this beautiful holographic sort of sugarcoat,
(10:39):
and so it's so temporarily like it's definitely that awe
is very inspiring for me and very beautiful, and it
puts me in a nice place mentally, although it kind
of messed with my dream escape after that, and that
was one of the things that led to some of
my a little bit more reserved nature with regard to over.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
The past couple of years, David, do people report seeing
dead relatives or loved ones during a d m T experience.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, that's that's that's fairly common, actually, and that's that's
one of the you have a whole section in our
book about that is the ancestor entities. It's it's it's
not uncommon during during a full strength d m T experience,
but it's specially prevalent with ayahuasca experiences, the shamanic brew
(11:35):
that incorporates d m T. Uh. In fact, that's one
of the primary things that it's used for in the
in the Amazon, it is for shamans to make contact
with with, you know, ancestor spirits and nature spirits. So
it's uh it's and in fact, that's what the word
ayahuasca means. It means the vine of the dead. So
(11:57):
I've certainly encountered a lot of reports and a lot
of people shared with me experiences that they had with
with departed loved ones and uh people who had just
crossed over. And this allowed in many cases people to
have some kind of reconciliation or to be able to say,
you know, a kind of final goodbye, or to you know,
(12:17):
get a you know, get a confirmation that the person's
spirit is okay on the on the other side of
the veil. You know, people have wondered if maybe you know,
all of the d N T entities really are are
our souls, you know, who have departed this world, and
that this is the next stage of our spiritual evolution,
you know, is to become these these types of entities,
(12:40):
and and and maybe that's certainly what a lot of
a lot of Shamans take that kind of perspective, that
the that the beings that we meet over there or
the departed souls from from this world.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Some d M subjects have claimed entities provided protocols for
future content. I mean, this is what do you think
this is? Suggests interdimensional diplomacy or is something more I
don't know, unsettling.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, And in the medicinal mindfulness study that they're doing
in Colorado, I know that the some of the entity contact.
They gave them instructions for how to produce better d
m T infusion so people could use the technology to
(13:30):
contact the beings more efficiently. And this almost sounds like
something out of out of Carl Sagan's, you know, the
science fiction novel Contact. You know that they're the entities
themselves are providing technology. I I think this is uh,
this is an exciting development.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
One of the things that I think that the the
extended state d MT studies that they're doing in Imperial
cology and elsewhere, if they lead to you know, to
to more extended conversations with the entities, perhaps they could
share with us, you know, I mean, you know, new
new forms of science, or you know, new forms of energy,
(14:09):
or you know, you know science fiction technologies like you know,
matter transporters or time machines or or different things of that. Elk.
I mean, we're you know, we could be conversing with
with entities that are hundreds, if not thousands of years
more evolved than us, and what kind of what kind
of technology could they share with us. It's just uh,
(14:30):
it's just uh, it's just mind bodling boggling. And I
think gives us tremendous cause for hope.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Uh, Sarah, do you have Do you develop a personal
relationship with these entities? Do they know you by name?
Do they recognize you? Oh, you know you've been here before?
Do they know your your history.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I've definitely had encounters with entities that remember me, and
then also into tees that sort of knew of me
via other entities that they were in communication with. Like
it's sort of a clown or a gesture entity being like, oh,
(15:15):
this is one I've come in contact with before. Does
tend to be slightly vague. Sometimes there will be hints
of specificity. Sometimes there will be sort of like gestures
of and I'm going to just say that word again
just in case people thought I said gestures. I was
(15:36):
saying gesture, you know, like an act or you know. Yeah.
So these these entities at times have kind of done
things out of a sense of rapport, which I've found
sort of like intriguing but charming. I had a what
we would call formauasca, which is essentially when you smoke
(15:59):
d MT, but you have a monolimoxine inhibitor, so it's
kind of like a sort of a reverse engineered ayahuasca,
But I had an experience one time where I was
just having an extremely intense visual experience. It was kind
of like hyperspace without the nice smoothing or dream time
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augmentation that you might get from ayahuasca, which has that
same chemical combination the MOI and the d MT. But
in that moment of being overwhelmed and having this crazy
plasma city, you know, revealing itself to me in this vision,
a large red elf kind of stood between me and
(16:44):
that intensity, as if to block my sight from it,
not in a way to deny me or censor my vision,
but to kind of just do me a favor, you know,
blocking me from the sun, be like, hey, here's some
shade that seems like it's kind of intense for you
right now. And I definitely think that there's there's a
sense of rapport. I've experienced entities that seem to recognize
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that we're having a serial encounter, which is cool.
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