August 22, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and clinical psychologist Edward Bruce Bynum explore the nature of dreams, the importance of dreams for the health of the brain, and George shares the story of his daughter's precognitive dream shortly before the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back, George Nori. Our special guest is clinical
psychologist doctor Edward Bruce Binham. You received the prestigious Abraham
Maslow Award from the American Psychological Association. He's a published author.
Several of his books include Dark Light Consciousness, The Dream
Life of Families in A Thousand Years in the Body,
(00:25):
and a published poet as well. Edward, welcome back. How
are you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm great, George. Good to hear your voice again.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What's your favorite poem that you wrote?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
The favorite, I guess would be the Dark Bird?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A guess da Bird? Was that something spiritual?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It is a combination. It's like dreams, you know, it's
both scientific in a certain sense and based on observation,
but it's also very fluid, which is what poetry is like, which,
as we know, all our dreams are.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like one of my favorite poems, The Road Not Taken.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Ah. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That has made all the difference.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes. Robert Frost, Robert Frost, right, he lived, He used
to live right here in town rhyme and Namous, Massachusetts
for a while.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, did you ever meet him?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No no, no no no no no no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Any great, what's news I had? What is new with you?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Beg your pardon?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What is new with you?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
What's new with me? Well, my dreams seemed to have
become more and more like a living experience that we're
all having. I dream every night. I was dreaming about
an hour or so ago, and it felt like a
very different world than this one. But obviously it's happening
(01:56):
to the same person, so it they flowed together. You know,
a dream is like dream is like sitting by side
a river and watching things come down the river, and
you never know what's going to happen next, but yet
the shape of the river stays the same. So it's
a curious combination of instantaneous newness and yet ancient, archaic
(02:18):
elemental events. It is the one mystical experience that we
all share every night.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Why don't we always remember our dreams? Edward?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It can be complicated. I mean, some people don't remember
their dreams simply because they don't have much interest in dreams.
You know, if you have an interest in your dreams,
you're more likely to remember them. And if you think
your dreams are meaningful to you, you're more likely to
remember them. But if you don't value your dreams very much,
(02:51):
which is can be unhelpful, then you're not going to
remember them as much. But rest assured, every every time
we go to sleep, we dream. In fact, if we
don't dream, if we don't dream, or we're stopped from
dreaming for a long time, we can actually become unstable
(03:14):
because the brain needs to dream, It really needs to dream.
Those ninety minute cycles that the brain goes through are important,
and if they're interrupted for a long period of time,
we can get these stabilized. In fact, that used to
be a brainwashing technique used during the many years ago
(03:36):
in the Korean War. What the Korean North Koreans learned
how to do is instead of torturing soldiers, which they
knew about certainly, and the soldiers kind of anticipated, instead
of that, they wouldn't let them fall asleep. They keep
them awake. Well, the first twenty four hours you can
(03:57):
get through that without dreaming, but by thirty six hours
you're feeling a little woozy. If you haven't slept and
haven't dreamed, by forty eight hours, your mind is begunning
me very very confused, and by fifty sixty hours. You
can't tell the difference between waking, dreaming, visions or whatever.
(04:21):
And so somebody asks you a question, you tell them
the truth, or they can implant something in your mind
very easily. So our brains actually physiologically need that cycle
of sleep which dreams occur or else it makes us unstable.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Edward, How did the North Koreans know this technique?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
They knew it. That what they did was different is
that they I used it like Americans and others did
not use it as much. But the North Koreans used
it because they didn't want to kill the soldier. They
wanted to get the sol you to change his mind.
He wanted to get the soldier to change his mind
(05:04):
and say things against the country. And many people would
prefer to die instead of do that. But if someone
has control of the roots of your mind, then they
have control of you. And so it's a much more
effective technique and much more and much more effective. And
(05:24):
I'm sure the various governments do it today to their soldiers,
but North Koreans were the first one is to do
it in mass and they were pretty successful at it,
pretty successful at it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Now there are various types of dreams. What creates those
differences like lucid dreaming pre cognitive dreaming, What creates the
different one?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Well, you know, most of this experience what we call
normal dreams, which means.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
That you you you sort of like go to the
movies in your mind, you know, and the dream sort
of flows along and all kinds of things happen in it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But it's not so scary, you know. The most normal
dreams involve images, because that's part of where your brain
gets activated. They condense all kinds of things that went
on in your life recently, They dig into deep things
that went a long time ago on. They distort what's
(06:27):
coming into your mind and then turns many of them
into symbols. And that's a normal dream.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
What got you into Edward? What got you into clinical psychology?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh? Well, you know, when I was a kid, I
was always interested in the in dreams and the mind,
and so I figured out a way in college to
study by dreams, and then I decided I'm going to
be a living on it this because I enjoy it
(07:01):
so much. So it's really a childhood preoccupation I had
that immatured and allowed me to eventually go to graduate
school and beyond and allowed me to make a life
out of being able to study. One of the phenomenon
that is most intriguing to me is dreams.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Do you have clients that come to you and tell
you about their dreams.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, that is one of the things that I used
to do when I was at the university's hospital clinic.
Part of my specialty was working with with psychosomatic medicine,
in other words, how the deep mind influences our physical symptoms.
But I also found and was able to use the
fact that dreams also do the same things. Dreams will express,
(07:45):
you know, when we're sick, and in fact, and what's
called prodromal dreams, a dream will kind of tell you
that your body is ill before you physically know it's ill.
They're called prodromal dreams. So the mind and the body
are intimately linked, and dreams of one of the places
where they sort of enter into the same pool, the
same river, the same territory at the same time. And
(08:08):
it's pretty difficult to draw a sharp distinction between what's
going on in quote, waking reality and in quote other
kinds of things, because a dream can incorporate both of
those at the same time the lucid dream that you mentioned.
The lucid dream, George, is where you actually are aware
(08:30):
that you're dreaming and then can actually change what's going
on or influence what's going on in the dream. So
that's what a lucid dream is. Is that, say, something
is going on in the dream, you're you're flying in
an airplane and you're looking out the window, and then
you suddenly sort of kind of wake up while you're
(08:50):
dreaming and you realize, oh, this is a dream. Then
you can actually control the plane in the dream.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No matter what happens to the plane, you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Most of the time.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Really, Yes, some people get reckless and in a lucid dream,
but some people find a way in a lucid dream, George.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Some people find a way to turn it into a
deep learning experience and they can have contact with great
teachers in the world. They can contact the deep resources
of the mind and a lucid dream, and some people
use the lucid dream for deep psychological and even spiritual exploration,
contacting teachers, ancestors. There all kinds of things you can
(09:40):
do when you have a lucid dream, because it's a
lucid dream is literally a dream that I'd wide awaken,
know who I am and can change. It's like walking
into a theater watching the movie and then decided to
edit the movie to make this happen and make that
not happen. It's really great if you're doing it for therapy,
(10:03):
because then you can confront some of your greatest fears, phobias,
or desires. So lucid dreaming is really really phenomenal, phenomenal experience,
and most people have a few lucid dreams during the lifetime.
But you can, George, you can actually train yourself. You
can actually train yourself with some discipline to learn how
(10:24):
to have an experience that enter lucid dreams.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Didn't They have some scientists who had dreams of incredible
discoveries that came true.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yes, they had. They those are called well they have
a lot of different days. The point is a lot
of great scientists have used their dreams to unclever scientific data.
Like way back in the nineteenth century, there was a scientist,
(10:58):
biochemist named cous you and uh yes, and he was
uh working on the benzene ring in biochemistry, and he
couldn't figure out some particular problem as part of the issue.
(11:19):
And he was on a train and he was thinking
about it and thinking about it and thinking about it,
and he kind of fell asleep on the train, and
when he had he had a dream, and he had
a dream of a snake biting its own tail. And
he woke up and suddenly he had the He had
the chemical solution, and that was the benzene ring. So yes,
(11:41):
and even the guy, even the guy who was studying
the periodic table, he uh sort of had deep visions
and dreams of the missing parts of the periodic table
and he was able to, oh, yes and fill it in.
And that was another way in which dreams helped you
(12:04):
uh sort of uh figure out scientific issues. The dell
been delvil, I think is how you pronounced his name.
But anyway, those are two instances in which dreams helped
persons actually just uh discover scientific clinically useful data. And
(12:26):
of course, you know, dreams are very, very useful when
it comes to the arts. I mean, we all remember
that poem by Samuel Taylor's Samuel Taylor Coldridge Kubla Khan. Well,
that was discovered or I should say, invented in his
dreams date, and he sort of took a fragment of
that and he sort of like intered, did work with it,
(12:48):
expanded it. He had to use up his uh poetic
uh genius to do that, obviously, but it all came
out of a dream. So yes, they world of science
and the world of the arts are full scattered with
how dreams have been profound insights into the nature of reality,
(13:11):
the nature of truth, and nature spiritual experience.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Edward, Do the dreams originate within the brain or outside
of the brain somehow?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, George, that's a very interesting and profound question. Most
of us, most of the time have our dreams stimulated
by the deep in our own brain. Now it's just
not physiological phenomenon, obviously, but it's a psychological phenomenon unique
to us. But there's there's a growing cadre of scientists
(13:46):
who feel that dreams are stimulated not only by phenomenon
inside of our brains, for sure, but sometimes by phenomena
that are in our larger environment. Give you an example,
if you are let's say, sleeping, and someone comes over
(14:13):
and caresses your forehead or something, well, that gets interpreted
by your brain as something other than someone literally coming
over and tickling your forehead and make it experienced by
you as the wind flowing through the backyard or a
(14:40):
bird flying in the distance. You will take that stimuli
that comes from outside of your brain, and your brain
will then take it and run with it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yes, it's truly remarkable. What do you think of psychic
or paranormal type dreams?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Oh, I profound only believe in it and that they've
experienced it. I've had my own experiences with recurring dreams,
of course, which everybody has time to sign. But also
on a few occasions I've had dreams that were uncanny
and appeared to be rudimentary, family oriented telepathic dreams. In fact,
(15:23):
I even wrote a large part of a book about
dreams that have a psychic aspect to it, you know,
a psychic Psychic experiences in dreams can appear in many
different ways. The most common one is telepathic that is
a communication of information one person to another in the
(15:44):
dream state. And one of the great explorers of that,
by the way, was none other than Sigmund Freud. He
acknowledged that he was very had mixed feelings about it.
He acknowledged it sometimes in later years he would back
away from it, then they come back I could reassert it.
Had very mixed feelings about it. But he himself also
had some telepathic dreams. He even had some unusual, somewhat
(16:08):
telepathic experiences with some of his patients.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
My daughter had an incredible dream. I'll tell you about that.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh yes, oh yeah. So telepathic dreams happen. We don't
quite know how they happen, but we do know that
they do happen. And sometimes dreams can be what's called precognitive.
You'll have an experience in a dream, an image or
a storyline, and a dream that will later on actually
manifest in the external reality of the physical and the
(16:42):
psychological and social world of others. So there's that telepathic
kind of dream. There's also a precognitive dream, and so
there are variations on the theme, including George, by the way,
including what's called this dreams. We don't do that as
(17:02):
much here in our culture because we have a sort
of prohibition about it. But when I say visitation dreams,
I mean with someone, usually a family member. Usually a
family member has passed on, but they appear in our
dreams and they communicate with us. That's called an ancestral dream.
Cultures that are much more open and permissive about that
(17:25):
understandably have many, many, many more of those kinds of
dreams for re each individual. That's certainly the case in India,
certainly the case in large parts of Africa and South America.
So a lot of it depends on the cultural filter,
the cultural situation that we're in that allows us to
go there. And if we say nope, nope, nope, then
(17:47):
we cut it off at the beginning and we don't happen.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So yeah, well, remember this date nine ten, two thousand
and one. That's the day my daughter called me and said, Dad,
I had the strangest dream. I was walking on the
streets of a big city, either Chicago, New York, that
type of city, and I looked up in the sky
(18:11):
and ash was falling on me, yes up to my
ankles as I was walking through the streets. I don't
know what that was, And I said, Wendy, I have
no idea what it was. The next day we see
pictures of nine to eleven with ash falling down from
the buildings, just like her dream.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yes, that's a precognitive dream.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Nobody knows George. Nobody knows. All we know is that
it does happen.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back, George Nori. Our special guest is clinical
psychologist doctor Edward Bruce Binham. You received the prestigious Abraham
Maslow Award from the American Psychological Association. He's a published author.
Several of his books include Dark Light Consciousness, The Dream
Life of Families in A Thousand Years in the Body,
(00:25):
and a published poet as well. Edward, welcome back. How
are you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm great, George. Good to hear your voice again.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
What's your favorite poem that you wrote?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
The favorite, I guess would be the Dark Bird?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
A guess da Bird? Was that something spiritual?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It is a combination. It's like dreams, you know, it's
both scientific in a certain sense and based on observation,
but it's also very fluid, which is what poetry is like, which,
as we know, all our dreams are.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like one of my favorite poems, The Road Not Taken.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Ah. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That has made all the difference.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes. Robert Frost, Robert Frost, right, he lived, He used
to live right here in town rhyme and Namous, Massachusetts
for a while.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, did you ever meet him?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
No no, no no no no no no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Any great, what's news I had? What is new with you?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Beg your pardon?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What is new with you?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
What's new with me? Well, my dreams seemed to have
become more and more like a living experience that we're
all having. I dream every night. I was dreaming about
an hour or so ago, and it felt like a
very different world than this one. But obviously it's happening
(01:56):
to the same person, so it they flowed together. You know,
a dream is like dream is like sitting by side
a river and watching things come down the river, and
you never know what's going to happen next, but yet
the shape of the river stays the same. So it's
a curious combination of instantaneous newness and yet ancient, archaic
(02:18):
elemental events. It is the one mystical experience that we
all share every night.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Why don't we always remember our dreams? Edward?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It can be complicated. I mean, some people don't remember
their dreams simply because they don't have much interest in dreams.
You know, if you have an interest in your dreams,
you're more likely to remember them. And if you think
your dreams are meaningful to you, you're more likely to
remember them. But if you don't value your dreams very much,
(02:51):
which is can be unhelpful, then you're not going to
remember them as much. But rest assured, every every time
we go to sleep, we dream. In fact, if we
don't dream, if we don't dream, or we're stopped from
dreaming for a long time, we can actually become unstable
(03:14):
because the brain needs to dream, It really needs to dream.
Those ninety minute cycles that the brain goes through are important,
and if they're interrupted for a long period of time,
we can get these stabilized. In fact, that used to
be a brainwashing technique used during the many years ago
(03:36):
in the Korean War. What the Korean North Koreans learned
how to do is instead of torturing soldiers, which they
knew about certainly, and the soldiers kind of anticipated, instead
of that, they wouldn't let them fall asleep. They keep
them awake. Well, the first twenty four hours you can
(03:57):
get through that without dreaming, but by thirty six hours
you're feeling a little woozy. If you haven't slept and
haven't dreamed, by forty eight hours, your mind is begunning
me very very confused, and by fifty sixty hours. You
can't tell the difference between waking, dreaming, visions or whatever.
(04:21):
And so somebody asks you a question, you tell them
the truth, or they can implant something in your mind
very easily. So our brains actually physiologically need that cycle
of sleep which dreams occur or else it makes us unstable.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Edward, How did the North Koreans know this technique?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
They knew it. That what they did was different is
that they I used it like Americans and others did
not use it as much. But the North Koreans used
it because they didn't want to kill the soldier. They
wanted to get the sol you to change his mind.
He wanted to get the soldier to change his mind
(05:04):
and say things against the country. And many people would
prefer to die instead of do that. But if someone
has control of the roots of your mind, then they
have control of you. And so it's a much more
effective technique and much more and much more effective. And
(05:24):
I'm sure the various governments do it today to their soldiers,
but North Koreans were the first one is to do
it in mass and they were pretty successful at it,
pretty successful at it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Now there are various types of dreams. What creates those
differences like lucid dreaming pre cognitive dreaming, What creates the
different one?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Well, you know, most of this experience what we call
normal dreams, which means.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
That you you you sort of like go to the
movies in your mind, you know, and the dream sort
of flows along and all kinds of things happen in it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But it's not so scary, you know. The most normal
dreams involve images, because that's part of where your brain
gets activated. They condense all kinds of things that went
on in your life recently, They dig into deep things
that went a long time ago on. They distort what's
(06:27):
coming into your mind and then turns many of them
into symbols. And that's a normal dream.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
What got you into Edward? What got you into clinical psychology?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh? Well, you know, when I was a kid, I
was always interested in the in dreams and the mind,
and so I figured out a way in college to
study by dreams, and then I decided I'm going to
be a living on it this because I enjoy it
(07:01):
so much. So it's really a childhood preoccupation I had
that immatured and allowed me to eventually go to graduate
school and beyond and allowed me to make a life
out of being able to study. One of the phenomenon
that is most intriguing to me is dreams.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Do you have clients that come to you and tell
you about their dreams.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, that is one of the things that I used
to do when I was at the university's hospital clinic.
Part of my specialty was working with with psychosomatic medicine,
in other words, how the deep mind influences our physical symptoms.
But I also found and was able to use the
fact that dreams also do the same things. Dreams will express,
(07:45):
you know, when we're sick, and in fact, and what's
called prodromal dreams, a dream will kind of tell you
that your body is ill before you physically know it's ill.
They're called prodromal dreams. So the mind and the body
are intimately linked, and dreams of one of the places
where they sort of enter into the same pool, the
same river, the same territory at the same time. And
(08:08):
it's pretty difficult to draw a sharp distinction between what's
going on in quote, waking reality and in quote other
kinds of things, because a dream can incorporate both of
those at the same time the lucid dream that you mentioned.
The lucid dream, George, is where you actually are aware
(08:30):
that you're dreaming and then can actually change what's going
on or influence what's going on in the dream. So
that's what a lucid dream is. Is that, say, something
is going on in the dream, you're you're flying in
an airplane and you're looking out the window, and then
you suddenly sort of kind of wake up while you're
(08:50):
dreaming and you realize, oh, this is a dream. Then
you can actually control the plane in the dream.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No matter what happens to the plane, you're gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Most of the time.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Really, Yes, some people get reckless and in a lucid dream,
but some people find a way in a lucid dream, George.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Some people find a way to turn it into a
deep learning experience and they can have contact with great
teachers in the world. They can contact the deep resources
of the mind and a lucid dream, and some people
use the lucid dream for deep psychological and even spiritual exploration,
contacting teachers, ancestors. There all kinds of things you can
(09:40):
do when you have a lucid dream, because it's a
lucid dream is literally a dream that I'd wide awaken,
know who I am and can change. It's like walking
into a theater watching the movie and then decided to
edit the movie to make this happen and make that
not happen. It's really great if you're doing it for therapy,
(10:03):
because then you can confront some of your greatest fears, phobias,
or desires. So lucid dreaming is really really phenomenal, phenomenal experience,
and most people have a few lucid dreams during the lifetime.
But you can, George, you can actually train yourself. You
can actually train yourself with some discipline to learn how
(10:24):
to have an experience that enter lucid dreams.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Didn't They have some scientists who had dreams of incredible
discoveries that came true.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yes, they had. They those are called well they have
a lot of different days. The point is a lot
of great scientists have used their dreams to unclever scientific data.
Like way back in the nineteenth century, there was a scientist,
(10:58):
biochemist named cous you and uh yes, and he was
uh working on the benzene ring in biochemistry, and he
couldn't figure out some particular problem as part of the issue.
(11:19):
And he was on a train and he was thinking
about it and thinking about it and thinking about it,
and he kind of fell asleep on the train, and
when he had he had a dream, and he had
a dream of a snake biting its own tail. And
he woke up and suddenly he had the He had
the chemical solution, and that was the benzene ring. So yes,
(11:41):
and even the guy, even the guy who was studying
the periodic table, he uh sort of had deep visions
and dreams of the missing parts of the periodic table
and he was able to, oh, yes and fill it in.
And that was another way in which dreams helped you
(12:04):
uh sort of uh figure out scientific issues. The dell
been delvil, I think is how you pronounced his name.
But anyway, those are two instances in which dreams helped
persons actually just uh discover scientific clinically useful data. And
(12:26):
of course, you know, dreams are very, very useful when
it comes to the arts. I mean, we all remember
that poem by Samuel Taylor's Samuel Taylor Coldridge Kubla Khan. Well,
that was discovered or I should say, invented in his
dreams date, and he sort of took a fragment of
that and he sort of like intered, did work with it,
(12:48):
expanded it. He had to use up his uh poetic
uh genius to do that, obviously, but it all came
out of a dream. So yes, they world of science
and the world of the arts are full scattered with
how dreams have been profound insights into the nature of reality,
(13:11):
the nature of truth, and nature spiritual experience.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Edward, Do the dreams originate within the brain or outside
of the brain somehow?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, George, that's a very interesting and profound question. Most
of us, most of the time have our dreams stimulated
by the deep in our own brain. Now it's just
not physiological phenomenon, obviously, but it's a psychological phenomenon unique
to us. But there's there's a growing cadre of scientists
(13:46):
who feel that dreams are stimulated not only by phenomenon
inside of our brains, for sure, but sometimes by phenomena
that are in our larger environment. Give you an example,
if you are let's say, sleeping, and someone comes over
(14:13):
and caresses your forehead or something, well, that gets interpreted
by your brain as something other than someone literally coming
over and tickling your forehead and make it experienced by
you as the wind flowing through the backyard or a
(14:40):
bird flying in the distance. You will take that stimuli
that comes from outside of your brain, and your brain
will then take it and run with it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yes, it's truly remarkable. What do you think of psychic
or paranormal type dreams?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Oh, I profound only believe in it and that they've
experienced it. I've had my own experiences with recurring dreams,
of course, which everybody has time to sign. But also
on a few occasions I've had dreams that were uncanny
and appeared to be rudimentary, family oriented telepathic dreams. In fact,
(15:23):
I even wrote a large part of a book about
dreams that have a psychic aspect to it, you know,
a psychic Psychic experiences in dreams can appear in many
different ways. The most common one is telepathic that is
a communication of information one person to another in the
(15:44):
dream state. And one of the great explorers of that,
by the way, was none other than Sigmund Freud. He
acknowledged that he was very had mixed feelings about it.
He acknowledged it sometimes in later years he would back
away from it, then they come back I could reassert it.
Had very mixed feelings about it. But he himself also
had some telepathic dreams. He even had some unusual, somewhat
(16:08):
telepathic experiences with some of his patients.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
My daughter had an incredible dream. I'll tell you about that.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Oh yes, oh yeah. So telepathic dreams happen. We don't
quite know how they happen, but we do know that
they do happen. And sometimes dreams can be what's called precognitive.
You'll have an experience in a dream, an image or
a storyline, and a dream that will later on actually
manifest in the external reality of the physical and the
(16:42):
psychological and social world of others. So there's that telepathic
kind of dream. There's also a precognitive dream, and so
there are variations on the theme, including George, by the way,
including what's called this dreams. We don't do that as
(17:02):
much here in our culture because we have a sort
of prohibition about it. But when I say visitation dreams,
I mean with someone, usually a family member. Usually a
family member has passed on, but they appear in our
dreams and they communicate with us. That's called an ancestral dream.
Cultures that are much more open and permissive about that
(17:25):
understandably have many, many, many more of those kinds of
dreams for re each individual. That's certainly the case in India,
certainly the case in large parts of Africa and South America.
So a lot of it depends on the cultural filter,
the cultural situation that we're in that allows us to
go there. And if we say nope, nope, nope, then
(17:47):
we cut it off at the beginning and we don't happen.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So yeah, well, remember this date nine ten, two thousand
and one. That's the day my daughter called me and said, Dad,
I had the strangest dream. I was walking on the
streets of a big city, either Chicago, New York, that
type of city, and I looked up in the sky
(18:11):
and ash was falling on me, yes up to my
ankles as I was walking through the streets. I don't
know what that was, And I said, Wendy, I have
no idea what it was. The next day we see
pictures of nine to eleven with ash falling down from
the buildings, just like her dream.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yes, that's a precognitive dream.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
How does that happen?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Nobody knows George. Nobody knows. All we know is that
it does happen.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
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