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On this week's show, Sandra will explore consciousness & the Soul as she brings you fascinating near-death experiences and stories from some of the best doctors around!

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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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(00:42):
your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

(01:03):
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. You may
have heard the expression we are divine souls having a
human experience, that our souls are so much bigger than
we are that consciousness, whatever consciousness is, is connected to

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everything and outlives our human existence. Today, we are going
to go where we've never gone on this podcast before,
and we're going to explore consciousness and who we really
are powerful immortal souls. We'll start by hearing some verritical
near death experience stories, times when there was no way

(01:46):
people could witness anything because they were flatlined on an
operating table, but their consciousness could see factual things with
the eyes of their soul. You'll hear from a scientist,
Professor Donald Hoffman, speculating on a theory about what consciousness
may be, followed by a great story by doctor Bruce Lipton,

(02:09):
once a disbeliever, about an experiment when some cells of
a man were transported three hundred and fifty miles away
from him and observed at the same time the man
was being observed. Whatever the man experienced the cells in
the test tube. Responded, Doctor Lipton believes who we really

(02:30):
are is not the cells or the human body, but
rather the space in between. I can't wait for you
to hear all of these good things, so let's get started. First,
Let's listen to a conversation between two doctors about a
man who came back to life after being declared dead

(02:51):
and what he told the doctors. Meet cardiac surgeon doctor
Rudy as he chats with doctor Milligan.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
We had a very unfortunate individual who on Christmas Day
had from an oral infection infected his native valve. The
body recognizes that as something abnormal that it's got to

(03:20):
take care of. One of my junior partners was on
call and he had to do an emergency valve resection.
Once we were able to accomplish the repair of the
aneurysm and the replacement of the valve, we could not
get the person off of the bypass. Every time the

(03:41):
four or five liters of blood that we were pumping
around his body we reduced down to two or three,
he'd begin to weaken in his boy person would go
down and so on, and make a long story short,
we simply couldn't get him off the heart lung machine. Finally,
we just had to give up. I mean, we just said,
we cannot get him off off of the heart lung machine,

(04:01):
so we're gonna have to pronounce him debt. So we
did that, and so the anteceesiologist turned his machine off
and the bellows that were breathing for the patient stopped.
That machine was quiet. The assezyologist went into surgeon's lounge.
He hadn't eaten anything all day, so he went in

(04:21):
to have a sandwich. Then the people who usually clean
up the instruments and all that were coming in and
taking away all these tools, and my surgical assistant close
the patient in a way that a post mortem exam
could be done, because anyone who succumbs on the table,

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by law, has to have an autos Well, the machine
that records the blood pressure and the pulse and the
left atrial pressure, and all the monitoring lines and things
continued to run the paper out onto the floor in
a big heat. Nobody bothered to turn little. And then

(05:06):
we put down a transiesophageal echo probe, which is just
a long tube that has a microphone on the end
of it, and we can get a beautiful picture on
a monitor of the heart beating. Well, that machine was
left on and the VCR tape continued to run.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Well.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
The assistant surgeon and I went in and took our
gowns off and gloves and masks and things, and came
back and we were in our short sleeved shirts, and
we were standing at the door discussing if there was
anything else we could have done, any other medicines we
could have given whatever to have made this a success.

(05:53):
And as we were standing there, it had been at
least twenty minutes this man recorded no heartbeat, no blood pressure,
no movement of the heart, just sitting there. All of
a sudden we looked up and we saw some electrical activity,

(06:16):
and pretty soon the electrical activity turned into a heartbeat,
very slow, thirty forty a minute, and we thought, well,
that's kind of an agon old thing, and we see
that occasionally that the heart will continue to beat even
though the patient can't generate a blood pressure or pump
any butt. Well, pretty soon we look and he's actually

(06:41):
generating a pressure. So I start yelling, get annesthesia back
in here and get the nurses to make a very
long story short without putting him back on cardiopulmonary bypath
artline machine and stuff. We started giving him some medicines

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and anecesia started giving him oxygen, and pretty soon he
had a pressure of eighty and pretty soon but pressure
of a hundred, and his heart rate was now up
to under the minute. Now he recovered and had no
neurologic deficit, And for the next two weeks all of

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us went in and were talking to him about what
he experienced, if anything, and he talked about the bright
light at the end of the tunnel, as I recall,
and so on. But the thing that astounded me was
that he described that operating room floating around and saying,

(07:47):
I saw you and doctor Catanio standing in the doorway
with your arms folded talking. You know where the anti
geologist was. But he came running back in and I
saw all of these post its sitting on this TV
screen and what those we were. Any call I got,

(08:11):
the nurse would write down who called and the phone
number and stick it on the monitor, and then the
next post it would stick to that post it, and
then I'd have a string of post its of phone
calls I had to make.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
He described that.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean, there's no way he could have described that
before the operation, because they didn't have any calls, no, right, and.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
He's sitting on and lying on so he must have
been floating.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
He was up there.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
He described the scene things that there is no way
he knew. I mean, he didn't wake up in the
operating room and see all this. I mean he was
out and was out for I don't know even a
day or two while we recovered him in the intensity carrion.
So what does that tell you? Was that his soul

(09:04):
up there?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
It's hard to know. It certainly brings that possibility into play.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
It always makes me very emotional. There have been other instances,
like one other I remember so vividly was a guy
who was on anti coagulation UH medicines that keep you
from clotting. And I don't even remember the operation, but
we had to do him right away. And you try
and reverse that as much as possible, but it's impossible

(09:33):
to completely do it right. And we were in there
and we'd finish the surgery and we just simply could
not stop this person from bleeding. I mean, we pulled
out every gun in the armory right to try and
get this everything. You yeah, and we finally decided we're
not gonna be able to stop this bleeding. And all

(09:55):
of a sudden, nobody spoke because everybody in that room
felt a presence. They asked Sjaal just and I talked
about it afterwards. I mean, there was no question there

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was a presence in that room, and he stopped bleeding
just like that.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
How do you explain that? What is your take on that,
doctor Rudi?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Oh, there's something out there that you know, people with
faith believers, is there. Some people call it God, some
people call it other things, Buddha or Mohammad or whoever.
It has convinced me there is something.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Out there, something out there. It is so good of
you to share this with people who don't get the
opportunity to be at those near death or post death experiences.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
It just convinces you that the strings are.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Being handled up itwhere.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I mean, you know, absolutely, and it makes me very emotional.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
I can tell. Is there any last things that you'd
like to say?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well, just that I presented this case to thirteen other
cardiac surgeons throughout the country in a special meeting, and
they had had several similar experience. It's not quite as
dramatic as the one I had, but everybody that deals
with that every day has had those experiences.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's not just me, It's definitely not just him. Here's
a quick story. Kimberly Clark Sharp was a social worker
at a medical center in Seattle. One day, one of
her patients, Maria went into cardiac arrest and flatlined. When
Maria awoke, she was trying to tell Kimberly that she'd

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left her body and watched her resuscitation from the corner
of the room, and she was able to provide details
on who was in the room and exactly what they
were doing. Then, Maria said she found herself floating outside
the hospital and became distracted by a tennis shoe. She
said it was on a window ledge three or four

(12:19):
floors from the ground. She described it as a man's
dark blue tennis shoe, well worn, scuffed on the left
side where the little toe would go. Patient Maria was
adamant that Kimberly go find the shoe as evidence that
she really saw it and that she left her body.
Kimberly began to search from room to room. Finally she

(12:42):
found the tennis shoe exactly matching Maria's description, on a
window ledge of the third floor on the west side
of the hospital. This is what we call a verified
near death experience. We'll be right back with some amazing
story es. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on

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Speaker 3 (14:07):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and on our episode today, we are looking at veridical
evidence coming from near death experiences proving that our consciousness,
our soul, is outside of our body. Here's a quick story.
Doctor Brian Weiss reports that a blind, elderly woman had

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a heart attack in the hospital where he was working
as a psychiatrist. As the resuscitation team tried to revive
the unconscious woman, she floated out of her body and
stood near the window, watching the whole thing unfold. She
calmly watched them pump air into her lungs and thump
on her chest. At one point, a pen fell out

(14:53):
of her doctor's pocket and rolled on the floor close
to the window where she was standing. A little while.
The doctor walked over and picked up the pen and
put it back into his pocket and continued working to
try to save her. A few days later, the woman
informed the cardiologist that she had witnessed the whole team

(15:15):
trying to resuscitate her. Her doctor told her that she
was mistaken and probably hallucinated due to the lack of
oxygen in her brain. Then she gave the doctor the
shock of his life. But I saw your pen roll
over to the window.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
She said.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
She then went on to describe the resuscitation procedure in detail.
When doctor Weiss interviewed the cardiologist days later, he was
very shaken up about how this lady, who was not
only comatose during the incident but also blind, could have
seen those unlikely details, all of which were confirmed accurate. Next,

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we're going to hear a few words from Professor Donald Hoffman,
whose studies cognitive science, perception, evolution, and consciousness, who is
also the author of one hundred and twenty scientific papers
and three books, including The Case Against Reality, Why Evolution
Hid the Truth from Our Eyes. His writing has appeared

(16:18):
in scientific journals. He's been on the program Through the
Wormhole with Morgan Freeman, and his Ted talk titled Do
We See Reality As It Is? Has almost three million views.
In this clip, he'll share about physicalism, also known as
when you die, you die. However, there is a world

(16:40):
of consciousness that science has yet to explain. He offers
a very interesting theory on the nature of consciousness that
I'm sure you'll enjoy hearing. Here is Professor Donald Hoffman.

Speaker 8 (16:55):
Physicalism has a very clear implication for death. Time is
fundamental and elementary particles like electrons and quarks and protons
and so forth, are the fundamental nature of reality. And
what you are, what your body is, is just a
complex assemblage of particles, and your consciousness is somehow an

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emergent property of certain activities of those particles, say brain activity.
Then it's very very clear that in death, when the
brain dissolves, your consciousness dissolves, and that's the end of
the story.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
That's a very very clear implication of physicalism. But if
consciousness is fundamental and space time is just an interface,
and our bodies are merely icons that we use to
represent certain interactions of conscious agents, then on that approach,
there is the possibility that some aspect of my consciousness

(17:50):
survives death. Now there I have to look at the
mathematics of the model and go into it. But it
may be, for example, that the bare awareness that's associated
with me, just awareness without content that survives, but all
the details of Donald Hoffman and his life story within

(18:13):
this interface, maybe that all dissolves. That's a story about
what is consciousness up to When we can talk about
if consciousness is fundamental, what is it doing and why?
What is the dynamics of consciousness about? To answer the
question about death, we might have to answer that question too,
So I'll try a stab at that question because I
think it relates to the death question. So what is
consciousness doing and why? The right answers I don't know,

(18:36):
And I've only seen one idea that seems deep enough
to at least be worth thinking about. And I want
to say it's the right idea, But only one idea
that seems deep enough to at least be a candidate,
and it again comes from Girdle's Incompleteness. There, Girdle says
that essentially, no matter how much you explore within a

(18:57):
particular conceptual system, you can't get all the true. There's
always going to be more to explore. Mathematically, So if
consciousness is the fundamental nature of reality, and consciousness is
all there is, then mathematical structure is only about the
possibilities of consciousness. That's all that there is to be about.
And so what if what consciousness is doing, Since the

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exploration of mathematical structure is in principle unending, then perhaps
the exploration of the possibilities of consciousness itself is in
principle unending. And therefore consciousness what is up to is
exploring all of his potentialities. And the reason is continuing

(19:43):
to do that, from our perspective, is continue to do
that is because there's no end to it in principle,
So consciousness of self is in some sense always learning
about itself. And so perhaps then what we are, what
people are, and what cats are, and what dogs are
and what amoebas are and so forth, is consciousness trying

(20:06):
on different headsets, different realities and exploring and losing itself.
So this is very interesting idea that the consciousness chooses
to really explore so deeply that it loses itself in
the exploration, doesn't even know what it is. It becomes
a physicalist. It actually thinks that consciousness isn't fundamental. It

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goes through the whole bit and then slowly has to
wake up and so doing it really explores what it's
not and what it is. In some sense, to know
what you are, you have to know what you're not.
So on that point of view, the Hoffmann icon is
simply consciousness taking a perspective on itself, looking at itself

(20:54):
through a particular spacetime headset, taking a low projection, and
from that headset finite. There was a birth, there was
growing strong until your twenties and thirties, and then after
forties you start declining, and when you're eighties and nineties
you die. And that whole process is just consciousness exploring

(21:14):
itself from a particular perspective, in which case maybe the
Hoffmann Icon and maybe a lot of stuff can be
left behind. But in some sense, consciousness itself has learned
something through that experience, and the eight billion other people
and the quadrillions of ambas and the who knows how
many viruses and so forth. Consciousness is just trying on

(21:38):
innumerable headsets, and when it's done with that headset, it
takes it off, and awareness is perfectly fine. The raw
awareness is fine. But the detailed icons that happened to
appear spacetime icons objects in space and time, brains neurons,
all those things. Those are just icons, and you study
them and then you realize, pretty cool. Mount Everest, what

(21:59):
a beautiful eye. Death Valley, what a beautiful icon. But
I'm not that I'm something even more transcendent than space
and time. I'm more transcendent than Death Valley. So consciousness
is just waking up. I mean again, I'm trying to
tell a story. I'm not saying that it's correct. It's
the only story I've seen so far that at least
is deep enough that it's worth taking seriously.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I know that some deep thinking, but it goes along
with my belief that we come to this earth forgetting
who we really are, and that our consciousness and our
soul is not just in our body. Next we'll hear
some words from a very passionate doctor Bruce Lipton Wants
a disbeliever who is now an internationally recognized authority in

(22:41):
bridging science and spirit and a leading voice in new biology.
He's the author of several books, including the Biology of Belief,
Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter, and Miracles.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
My name is Bruce Lipton. I'm the author of the
best selling books Biology Belief, Spontaneous evolution in the honeymoon effect.
My research on stem cells back in the sixties reveals
something to me that I never believed in, and that
is spirituality. Oh my god, I'm a scientist and I
was using the word spirituality. I sort of got black
ball from my community because I was against the rules

(23:19):
in science to bring it up. So I left science.
But I came back at Stanford University with research back
in the nineties and then published some great papers, and
as a result, I have been having a most wonderful
life on this planet. And a lot of it has
to do with the fact that I never believed in spirituality.

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As a scientist, there was genes and proteins and chromosomes
and all that kind of stuff. But through the studies
of the cells, there was one important little fact that
came in and disturbed everything, and that was very simply this,
No two people are the same biologically, And I go,
what do you mean? I go, well, if I want
to put my cells into David, his immune system would

(24:02):
say not self and rejected. If David cells come into
my body, my immune system will say not self and rejected.
Very clear point. There's identity to the cells that are
connected to the individual, and no two people have the
same identity. And then my idea is about understanding how
the cell work. Led me to the cell membrane, the
skin of the cell, and I say, where's the difference

(24:25):
between people? And what I recognized was on the surface
of the cells there are these protein antennas called receptors, receivers,
receptors in the skin of the cell. And I go,
look the human, same thing in the skin. What do
I have, eyes, ears, nose, tastes, touch, pain, temperature. I said,

(24:45):
these are receivers built into my skin to read the environment.
That's what it's all about. So I say, whoa on
the surface of the cells except for the red blood
cells on the surface of our cells as a set
of antennas that is unique to each individual. No two
people share the same and these individual receptors are called

(25:05):
interesting enough, self receptors, self receptors. Well, right away, that
was pretty cool self receivers. And I go, well, what's
unique about it? I said, A protein receptor is an antenna.
It receives a signal. And I go, so what I said,
No two people receive the same identifying signal from the environment.

(25:28):
Each person is receiving their own signal. They used to say, well,
the signal is the receptors themselves, the proteins. I go no. No,
they misunderstood the receptors receive a signal, okay, and I
go So the signal is not in the cells, I
go no. And an interesting study by a former colleague
friend of mine, Cleve Baxter. He's a guy who developed

(25:50):
the advanced LIE detector techniques to read the electrical energy
of cells.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I hate to interrupt, but I actually think this is
a good time to take our break. Remember at the beginning,
I was telling you about the test with a man
and his sales and a test tube, and he was
three hundred and fifty miles away. This is the story
that's coming up next, So buckle your seatbelt. We'll be
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Speaker 3 (27:30):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and we are exploring consciousness right now we're listening to
doctor Bruce Lipton, author of the Biology of Belief. Here's
the next story of the experiment and.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
An interesting study by a former colleague friend of mine,
Cleve Baxter. He's a guy who developed advanced slide detector
techniques to read the electrical energy of sales. Well, he
was working with an astronaut, Brian O'Leary, and what they
did is they put some Brian O'Leary cells in a
test tube and they moved it three hundred and fifty

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miles away. At that site, there's a recording device in
the test tube to record the electrical activity of the cells.
So the experiment runs where the test tube with Brian
Sells there three hundred and fifty miles away, but where
Brian is. They set up a screen split screen where
they have live Brian on one side of the screen

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and the electrical activity of the cells three hundred and
fifty miles away on the other side of the screen.
And what they show is the most amazing thing in
the world. And what was that is that if Brian
elicited an emotional response instantaneously, the cells three hundred and
fifty miles away activated their electrical activity, and all of

(28:52):
a sudden, it says, well, wait a minute, what is
this experiment show? And it goes, well, Brian cells have
his receptors on it, his antennas, so it didn't make
a difference if Brian Sells were in Brian's body or
Brian cells were in attest to. The significance is very
clear is that there was a communication simultaneously that affected

(29:13):
both Brian and his cells at exactly the same time.
But three hundred and fifty miles apart. The point is,
then where's Brian. Well, he's on the screen. Yeah, but
Brian sells her three hundred fifty eight miles over there.
I go that, how did Brian cells activate with Brian
in the answer? Ready, Brian's identity is a broadcast. Wherever

(29:34):
Brian cells are, they'll receive that identity. And that's why
the cells three hundred and fifty miles away we're receiving
on their antennas. The same signal that Brian sells in
his body was leaving on their antennas. And the most
important fact was, Oh my god, identity broadcast that makes

(29:54):
us unique is not in the cells, it's in the field.
And then the word field, let's just bring that in
because that's quantum physics. And I go, what is field?
It's an energy environment. All of us are sitting in
a field right now. I mean wherever I am, wherever
you are. Guess what in your area right now, there

(30:14):
are television broadcasts and radio broadcasts, and cell phone broadcasts
and even solar energy in the field that you're sitting in.
It's not visible, but if you have a cell phone
and the energy in the field comes to the cell phone.
You can talk on it. Okay. Well, the point about
it is simply this. Consider the body as a television set.

(30:36):
And what you're saying now is the Bruce Show. Well,
when you're watching a TV, is the show in the TV?
I go no, No, the show is picked up by
the broadcast played through the TV, the Bruce Show. And
I go, yeah, this is the Bruce TV. Okay, the
show that is playing is a broadcast. And then comes

(30:57):
the most important inside right there, you're ready. It goes
you're watching the TV and the TV breaks and I say, yeah,
the TV's dead, now working anymore? The most important question
is did the broadcast die when the TV broke? I
go no, what I mean? I say, well, you can
get another TV plug it in turn on when when

(31:17):
you tune in to the station shows back on the air.
Oh my god, we can't die because we are the broadcast,
not the TV. And the significance is, well, the body
TV can break, the broadcast is always there. And if
a future embryo shows up with the same antennas that

(31:38):
are on yourselves right now, you're back. But in a
new TV. I go what does it mean? I say, well,
does it have to be male or female. I said, no,
that's the TV. That's not the broadcast. Separate the broadcast
from the TV for a moment. You're the broadcast. The
TV is what you play through. Does it make a
difference if this TV is male or female? No, ready
doesn't make a difference. If this is white, brown, black, red, yellow, Nope,

(32:02):
that's the TV. And all of a sudden I have
to say, oh my god, we have been looking at
the TV and considering that's the entity, when in truth,
that's the player of the entity. And this is why
let's say Brian O'Leary sells, they all have the same
antennas on them. Right, it's like two TVs, three hundred

(32:23):
and fifty miles apart, same broadcast, hits both TVs at
the same time. And the part that just blew my
mind was, oh my god, I'm not in here. I
am playing through here. And the first thing that happened
in my life because I was not spiritual. I mean
I was a science guy. Okay, no spirituality. But the

(32:45):
moment I understood this, it's like I blew my mind
changed my life. My whole world turned upside down. Why
because I realized something that you're ready for this. You
cannot die. What do you mean? I say, you're not
even in here? The TV can go and I but
you are broadcast. That is always here. Now you have

(33:06):
to recognize this. I didn't go through any devotional like
go to some religious church or temple or something and
learn all this. I said, no, I had nothing to
do with it. I didn't even go to those things.
I'm in a laboratory looking at cells and a Patriot
dish and understanding the nature inside this dish. So what
does that mean? I said, Well, how long did it
take me to go from non spiritual to spiritual? And

(33:29):
here's the joke, about a minute? What do you mean?

Speaker 10 (33:33):
I go, Well, the point was it's a mechanism, and
you could see this mechanism, and it becomes profoundly important
because if you understand this mechanism.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
The first thing that I realized and a weight lifted
off my shoulder. I got so light. I was like,
oh my god, freedom, I said, what was the freedom?
You ready? No fear of death? Why? I realized, the
bodies get come and go, but the field is always here.
I'm always here. A very important question from science Bruce's

(34:07):
brain came up, and the answers came from fifty trillion
cells inside my body. I always joke, I always call
them Jewish comedian cells. And I say why, I said,
I asked them a question, and the cells responded with
a question. I asked the question, why have a body
and a spirit? Why not just be a spirit? And

(34:31):
the fifty trillion cells welled up and answered with this
profound question, Bruce, if you're just a spirit, what does
chocolate taste like? I almost say some Oh, oh my god.
This mechanism smell, tastes, sight, sound, feelings, emotions. I go,

(34:54):
this is a machine. It creates the chemistry of the
experiences or the inputs. And I say, and what does
the brain do? It translates it into vibrations. So if
I see a landscape, does that mean there's a screen
in the back of my head with a picture playing inside?
And said, no, it's translated into an energy broadcast. So site, sound, smell, taste, Well,

(35:20):
they might be physical things in this world. When they
enter the body, the receptors translate them into an energy
broadcast that goes up to the brain and the brain
reads the broadcast. Okay, so I said, wow. Then what
was the idea of having a body, And the answer
was this, to sense and experience the world. I could

(35:42):
have an intellectual discussion love. Let's write it a fifty
page essay love and what if you never experience love?
And I go, it's just an intellectual exercise. I go,
but what if you experience in love? I say, Oh
my god. It becomes a physiological expression that can blow
your mind. Oh my god. Then my body is a

(36:02):
translator of an environment and translates it into vibrational energy.
And you're ready. This is the cool part. Right When
I want to read a brain activity, we put wires
on a person's head. It's called electro and cephalograph. I
can read your brain activity. Oh yeah, my brain activity
is working inside my head. There's a new device that

(36:22):
reads brain activity, a newer one, not electro in cephalograph.
It's called magneto in cephalograph. I go, what's different, I said,
They both read brain function. I go, yeah, but here's
the difference. You're ready. Magneto and cephalgraph probe doesn't touch
your head. It's out here. I'm reading your brain function.

(36:44):
There's a very logical moment when you get this right now,
and as what. Your thoughts are not contained in your head.
Your thoughts are broadcasts back into the environment. Where's the
broadcast going? You're ready to The original energy field that
was playing me is now modified by my life experiences.

(37:09):
An energy signal was coming in my life experience is
an energy signal and sends it back. And I go,
so what does that mean? Oh my god. The whole
idea of this is karma. And what the hell is karma?
I said, you came in with a vibration, lived your
life experiences sent vibrations back to source. Guess what you

(37:29):
altered source. You're not the same energy you were before
you came into the body. What does that mean? I said, Well,
your life experiences are going back and adjusting your field. Okay,
let's stop for one second because a definition is probably
Handley right here and quantum physics. I mentioned the word
field is the energy around us. Okay, so let me

(37:51):
give a definition field invisible moving forces that influence the
physical world. Go oh, ready, spirit invisible moving forces that
influence the physical world, and go oh, it is quantum
physics has provided the whole foundation of spirituality. That is

(38:15):
an energy field that is playing and that we are
receivers of that field, and then we have our life experiences,
and our experiences are translated into a field which is
sent back to the source. I'm a spiritual entity, but
I'm here to do what experience the world. But the

(38:36):
source coming in is directing me in the movement on
my planet. The source coming in is moving me. So
here's an analogy. Let's work on this analogy. I can't
go to Mars, but I want to know what Mars
is like. Well, I can't send it, youman up? So
what do I send up? It's called the Mars Rover.
It looks like a fancy go card with antennas and

(38:58):
stuff all over, and I go, so what. So there's
a guy at NASA. He sends a signal to the
Mars rover. What does he do? He calls it to
drive here, drive there. He's moving it around. I said,
what's happening. As the rover is moving around, it has
sensory receptors temperature, light, sound, smell, face, just like a human.

(39:18):
And as it's moving around, the sensory receptors are picking
up the environmental information. And guess what, sending it back
with the same antenna to the guy at NASA, so
the guy at NASA is not on Mars, but has
the experience of being on Mars.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
We'll be right back with doctor Bruce Lipton. You're listening
to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
Stay there, Sandra will be right back.

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Speaker 3 (40:31):
This is Afterlife expert Danid Brakleace, and you're listening to
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(40:54):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and we're listening to the passionate doctor Bruce Lipton. He
has more extraordinary words to share.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
People think maybe that you die and you go to heaven. Wrong,
You're born into heaven. You came here to create. Yep,
you came here to experience. I said, what is heaven? Well,
that's your personal creation. I ask anybody, hey, what's your
vision of heaven? You give me a definition. I asked
the guy next to you, what's their vision? To get

(41:26):
a different vision. Vision is a creation. Earth is the
place where you do that creation. We came here to
create and to experience. And when you're dead, the machine's gone,
but the experiences are still in the broadcast. When I
first understood this, now I'm a broadcast, I'm an energy.

(41:49):
I'm a frequency that I play through this system that
I come here and manifest life experiences built in every organism,
from bacterity humans is something called the biological imperative. It's
biology's term for a recognition that in every organism there
is a drive to survive. I don't care how primitive

(42:10):
that organism is. A bacterium, I said, you try and
kill a bacterium. The bacterium will do every maneuver possible
in its repertoile behavior every maneuver possible to do what
stay alive? So the biological imperative is the mechanism's idea
to be aware of threats, because then the biological imperative

(42:35):
is to keep you alive. So to make it work,
then the nervous system is designed to observe any potential
threat that's out there in the world. Well, what's the fear. Well,
if it threatens, then I could die. Now wait, what
if I come to the realization that I can't die, Well,

(42:55):
then the fear doesn't exist anymore. And that was the
evariance of lightness. I shut off the damn mechanism that
was watching everything every minute and listening and seeing and
hearing anything that would threaten to me. That's a lot
of energy that you're using every day without you consciously aware.
It's just operating in the background. The moment I lost

(43:18):
the fear of death, I also lost the need to
keep that machine running to make me aware of threats.
It doesn't mean I'm not aware of the everyday scanning
of the entire world looking for the threat. That's what stopped.
So what significance was I got lighter, I had more
energy all of a sudden a burst of energy aware

(43:39):
to comprise. I had been using this energy all of
the time to scan the world for things that threatened me.
I let go of the threat. The scanner shuts off
the amount of energy that I was using. Boom came
right back, and all of a sudden, I had all
this energy. And yes, it's the fear that compromises our life.

(44:01):
Fear is a stressor. Fear shuts off the growth and
maintenance of the body. Fear shuts off the immune system.
Fear means something is threatening you and it's on the outside.
So what happens. Stress hormones shut off the gut, which
is all the processing. What is the consequence then, of
the stress moment. The first two things here are you're

(44:24):
shutting down the growth and maintenance of the body to
conserve energy. And there's a third issue. The conscious mind
is a slow processor. The hind brain is a superprocessor,
a million times more powerful than the fore brain. So
when you're under threat, you don't want to use the
thinking it's too slow. You want to use the hind

(44:48):
brain fast. Now, there are three consequences of stress. One
shut down the growth and maintenance of the body. Two
shut down the immune system, and three shut down in
intelligence so that you're running on reaction reflex, no thinking. Okay,
well that was not a problem if you were being
chased by a saber tooth tiger, because ten to fifteen

(45:10):
minutes later, if you made it, then the stress hormones
stopping you go back to life again. In today's world,
stress is twenty four seven three sixty five. We are
inhibiting our growth and our immune system every day by
the stresses that we're living under. But all of a sudden,
I realized I can't die. I'm immortal, and with that

(45:33):
immortal character in my mind, the fear of those threats disappear.
I don't want to die, but I'm also not on edge.
And my whole world changed because now I understand, to
my scientific point of view, the truth and here it is.
You don't die and go to heaven. You were born

(45:56):
into heaven. You came here to live or create, You
came here to experience things. And then I realized how
many people don't have life experiences. Why because they're living
in fear. They're behind the wall. I'm back here, I'm
protecting myself, but they're not living here. And as a result,

(46:16):
their lives don't have the joy of recognizing while I'm here,
I'm a creator. If I'm a creator, then why not
I create what heaven? Because heaven is everybody's personal creation.
I am now owning my creative character. I do the
things that I feel that are in harmony with my life,

(46:38):
and I disregard any of those things that are causing disharmony.
And therefore I am honored to say I've been living
on heaven for about thirty or forty years now, and
it works and is great because joy is what I
have every day. The fear stuff might show up, but
it also goes away very quickly because I don't hold

(47:01):
on to it anymore. I took back the power, and
this is for me, the most important message to give people.
Max Plank and others said, the mind is the matrix
of all matter, meaning the mind is creating this, We
are creating. That is the established rule number one of

(47:21):
the most valid science on the planet of quantum physics.
And I say to people, well, if your consciousness is
creating this world, how's that working out? Yeah? And people go,
it's not really working out. All this cool problems here,
and I go, are you creating them? Are you playing
a program? Everybody is The brain is a computer. In

(47:41):
the old days, you go to the store by a
brand new computer, bring it home, plug it in, push start,
The screen boots up, and I say, okay, now do
something with your computer. Now I can't. I say, oh,
not until I put some programs into the computer. Can
I use it? If there's no program, there's nothing you
can do. So it turns out the human brain gets
programmed in the first seven years of life by observing

(48:03):
other people and downloading their programs. Well, there's a problem
because the people we observe are not living in health
and harmony. And then we download their behavior and we
don't live in health and harmony. And they say genes
were passed during this, no behavior was passed. So the
relevance is to recognize that ninety five percent of the day,
and this is absolute science, the behaviors that we play

(48:25):
do not come from our creative wishes, desires, conscious mind,
the spirit. Ninety five percent of the day, the behavior
is coming direct out of the programs direct play program
And the problem with it is twofold number one. We
downloaded the programs from other people, So we downloaded their
good stuff, and we downloaded their bad stuff. Okay, at
the same time. And number two, and this is the

(48:46):
critical part. When we are playing our programs from our subconscious,
the reason we're playing the programs is we're thinking, which
means we're not paying attention. Paying attention means you look
out the eyes and look at like driving the car,
you're looking out the windshield. Okay, But thinking is not
looking out. Thinking is looking in. There's a thought it's inside.

(49:09):
So the moment you are thinking, you're not paying attention
to the outside. The conscious mind is observing the world.
But if the conscious mind is thinking, it's not observing.
The world is inside. But what if I'm driving the
car and all of a sudden I start thinking, Now
I'm not paying attention. Subconscious is autopilot. The moment you

(49:29):
are thinking, the behavior is controlled by subconscious. When you
are thinking, ninety five percent of the day, the behavior
is taken over by the programs, but you do not
see that behavior because you're thinking. And so whatever program
is playing, you're unaware of it. And so go back
to the programming period. Up to sixty percent of the

(49:51):
things we downloaded by observing mother, father, family, community, and downloading.
Up to sixty percent are disempowering or self sabotaging, or
beliefs that don't support us. So that means ninety five
percent of the day I'm thinking, then a sixty percent
of that day when the programs are playing, those sixty
percent are sabotaging me, and I don't see it. So

(50:12):
what do I see at the end of the day.
I see the result, but I didn't see my involvement.
And therefore the average person says, Oh, I'm a victim.
Things happen to me. I wanted to be healthy, successful,
have a great relationship. I wanted those things, but they're
not here, So it must be those people interfering with

(50:34):
my creation. Wake up, folks. You were running the show
the entire time, just unfortunately you were using ninety five
percent of the time to play the programs which have
dysfunctions in them. But during that ninety five percent of
the time, you do not observe the programs because you're
the reason you're playing them is your conscious not paying attention.

(50:55):
This is what quantum physics has been trying to tell
you for a hundred years, and the science of epigenetics.
It is the biology of that, because epigenetics reveals that
your genes are controlled by your conscious mind, and all
of a sudden, that supports everything that physics said. Yeah,
biology now supports it. Why your mind, consciousness is adjusting
your genetics and your behavior. Well, this is exactly what

(51:17):
quite them physics was saying. But this is now a
biological mechanism.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
We're coming to the end of our time together. So
I'm going to end Bruce Lipton there. You can find
out more about him at Bruce Lipton dot com. I
also recommend his interview on David Feruggio's show Dead Talks.
David also really cares about the grieving and loves exploring
the afterlife, and he's got some great guests. Check out

(51:45):
Dead Talks dot com. Don't forget to come visit me
at We Don'tdie dot com. You can join my Patreon club,
take a class, or attend our free Sunday gathering with
medium demonstration.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Leave you with two great quotes. What your thoughts for
they become words. Watch your words for they become actions.
Watch your actions for they become habits. Watch your habits
for they become your character. Watch your character for it
becomes your destiny. That's by Gandhi, and as author Mike

(52:20):
Dooley says, thoughts become things, so choose the good ones.
There's so much more to us and then meets the eye.
I hope you've enjoyed this episode today and you practice
consciously creating your own thoughts and remember the experiment with
the astronaut. You are not your body or your cells

(52:43):
that might be in a test tube three hundred and
fifty miles away. You are the in between. You are
the everlasting, You are eternal and so much more. I'm
Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal

(53:04):
Podcast Network.

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