October 4, 2024 • 50 mins
Sandra helps us to see and understand the ways our loved ones use technology to give us comforting signs that they have survived physical death!
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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that
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our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we.
Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. As I talk to
you today, it's October. It is pouring rain outside. Rain
drops are hitting the roof. It's cool going into the fall,
and I just had a memory that came flooding back.
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It was nineteen years ago this month that I got
my first EVP electronic voice phenomena. There I was in
a cabin at a retreat center in Rhinebeck, New York.
The course was on electronic voice phenomena with Tom and
Lisa Butler, who wrote the book There Is No Death
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and There Are No Dead. After hearing many examples of
electronic voice phenomena that is, loved ones speak looking through
recordings on digital tape recorders, I retreated to my cabin
on the Saturday night of the class. Sunday was to
be our final day. At that point, I had studied
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enough about the afterlife and had taken a medium course
to know the reality of the afterlife. But nineteen years
ago I didn't have the evidence I needed to go
public with this. So there I was in my cabin
alone in the rain, holding my digital tape recorder. I
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pressed record. I imagined my aunt, uncle, grandmother, and grandfather,
who were all deceased, standing at the foot of my bed.
I said to them, if this is real and you
guys are still alive, and if I'm supposed to help
people believe in the afterlife. I need you to try
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to talk very loud. I'll let this record one minute,
and then I'll say good night. I held my recorder
in my hand, recording the sound of raindrops, and after
a minute, I said good night. In the class, we
had learned that our loved ones on the other side
can rearrange the sounds that are recorded and make them
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into voices. As much as I believed this, I needed
my own recording. I hadn't brought my computer or any
programs where I could turn up the volume or loop
the recording over and over, trying to listen for words.
But as I pressed the play button on the recording,
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and around second number forty six on the replay, I
heard something that gave me chills. I stopped it, rewound it,
and played it again and again. A man's voice says
good night Sandra. Two women whisper good night, good night,
and another male voice came in saying good night. Wow.
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That moment changed my life. I went from believing in
the afterlife to knowing also. I'm not proud to say this,
but I got a little freaked out and a little scared.
You see, it started making sense that there's this veil
between our world and the next, and I questioned, are
people always around? Do I have privacy? It may sound silly,
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and in the past episodes I spoke of a great
book called do dead people watch Me in the shower?
The answer is they don't. We do have our privacy.
The good news is I went to class the next
day and played my EVP for the group. My classmates
all had lost someone significant to them, and I saw
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in a minute how hearing a voice from an EVP
can help those grieving. It was that moment that I
decided to do lots of recordings and experiment with other people,
and eventually here we are, nineteen years later on Shades
of the Afterlife, with now over two hundred episodes discussing
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the many reasons to believe in the afterlife. But as
I contemplate this episode today, I think of the many
things that our loved ones can do in time and space,
turning on and off televisions, leaving voices on tape recorders,
sending text messages, emails, and even phone calls from the deceased.
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So if it's okay with you, I want to share
some of these stories, some from fellow listeners, some from
stories I've heard along the way, talk to you about
some experts who have actually studied this and create the
possibility as I'm sure our loved ones are listening as well,
of how they can work with us and give us
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more signs that they live on. A few weeks ago,
you heard some words from listener Kathy who received an
email after her son had passed. It came from an
email address of a person she didn't know, and it
simply had one word in the body of it, Sean,
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which is her son's name. Doing a little research, she
found the person who sent it had been long dead.
I also recall the story of one listener who told
me that her son had newly passed. She had purchased
a smart TV, one that had all the video apps
on it as well as being able to connect to
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cable television. She lived alone, ran out to do a
few errands. When she returned to her house, not only
was the television on, but it was on YouTube. And
what YouTube was playing was a replay of one of
my Sunday gatherings. And if you're new to the show,
Every Sunday, two pm New York time on Zoom, we
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do a live gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included.
So she watched the replay. It opened her mind to
the possibility of her son living on, and she's joined
our community. But who turned on that television? Who tuned
it to YouTube and found a Sunday gathering? A few
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years back, I got a wonderful email from a man
whose three year old child had recently passed. He wasn't
interested in the afterlife, but to distract him, he picked
up his phone and simply said, Siri, play some news.
Siri did not turn on a news channel. She started
playing an episode of our podcast. That man told me
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he listened to almost every episode, giving him hope and
faith that his daughter lives on. How these things happen,
we may never or until we get to the other side,
but they're real. They do happen, and I want to
share with you some incredible stories, Carol says. I've had
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several signs, but this one is the first and the best.
My brother died in two thousand and I had a
picture of him on my dresser. Only a couple of
weeks after he died. I was in my room and
I had been looking a long time at his picture.
I said out loud, I can't believe you're gone, and
I miss you so much. Right Ben, My ceiling light
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slowly dimmed and went back to normal, not once, but
three times in a row. It was slow and deliberate.
I remember looking at my light switch on the wall
and thinking I don't even have a dimmer switch. I
was filled with a huge adrenaline rush and never felt
anything like it. To make it even more validating, my
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brother was an electrician. I knew he heard me, and
he was telling me he's still here with me. From
that moment on, I went from feeling utter pain and
despair to peace and hope. Jeanne says. My wife and
I met at a large electronics store that we both
worked at back in the nineties. I ran the computer
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upgrades department. She worked in music and movies. The store
didn't last long. It went out of business and the
building was sold to a local community college and converted
to a campus. The area she worked in was turned
into the college auditorium. When she died unexpectedly last year,
I went to the college to ask if we could
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hold a celebration of life in the auditorium. They said yes,
and I planned out an event in her honor. I
stood on the stage telling everyone the story of how
we met and the significance of the building we were in.
Just as I was telling the story, a set of
stage lights started going on and off without skipping a beat.
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I looked up at the lights and said, let me
finish telling this story, Becky, How could I ever forget
how I met you? And then the lights stopped blinking
and just stayed on. There was laughter and smiles because
I was one hundred percent confident that she was there
and she wouldn't have missed it. Susan says, my dad
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recently passed and he reached out to me hours after
he passed, and I was still with him at the time.
He had no technoledge, but his name Dad kept showing
up among my text messages. He had never texted me before,
and he never even had a phone that did text.
I know Britt helped him from the other side, and
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he now understands technology. I love the amazing contexts I
have received from most of my family who have passed
over the years. This dad says. My son was twenty
years old and passed away on April fifteenth last year,
which was my birthday, he passed in a motorcycle accident.
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Later that day, I was using my phone to watch
some old videos on YouTube. I put my phone down
on the arm of the chair and stood up. I
looked down at my phone and had a thought my
son was trying to contact me in some way without
me touching it. The screen started to scroll down on
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its own at a frantic pace and stopped at a
James Dean video about his death from a road accident,
dying in his car. I looked at my girlfriend. She
saw it all happen too, so I wasn't imagining it.
Ten minutes later, my son's picture fell off the sideboard
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and onto the floor. We were both semi spooped, but
I also felt kind of easy about him coming to
see me and giving me this sign. Thank you, Christopher.
I think about you every day and I love you Dad.
Prior to my own dad's death, I had given his
nurse my cell phone number, and she had given me
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hers in case of an emergency. We never did exchange
phone calls, and I forgot that her number was stored
on my phone. Many times after my dad passed, when
I was in deep grief or was dealing with something troubling.
My phone would ring just for a couple of rings,
and it said Dad's nurse. If I answered the phone,
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no one was there. Of course, it's possible that it
is a famous butt dial accidentally being dialed by her. However,
why would I be the last phone number dialed and
why would it happen so many different times? To me,
they were just gentle reminders of my dad saying I'm
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still here and everything will be okay. It's time for
our first break and we'll be back with more stories
and more phone calls from the dead. You're listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
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the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and today we're talking about
phone calls from the dead and other interesting things that
they can do with technology, electricity, etc. How about another story.
This one is from Mandy. She says, my mom had
died in December of twenty fourteen, and in the spring
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of twenty fifteen, I got a text message from her phone.
I was with my friend in the carped up mom
and it was one of those inspirational messages in the
form of a meme. I'm glad my friend was there
to witness that we had disconnected mom's phone. A few
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weeks after she had passed. I tried to call the
number back, assuming it was assigned to another person, and
I got the message that the phone number was not
in service. It was very strange, yet very comforting. I
do believe it was from my mom. Ari says. I
was in my living room in my house and my
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mom was doing something in her room. My grandfather passed
in mid November, and my mom had kept his phone.
My mom had left her phone on the couch right
next to me, and it suddenly began to ring, and
it flashed that my grandfather's phone was calling her. I
ran to my mom and showed her the ringing phone.
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She opened the drawer and my grandfather's phone was indeed
calling her. Just as she picked it up, the phone
stopped ringing. We believe it was my grandfather saying hello.
Barry says, my best friend killed himself in twenty fourteen,
and I received a call from his number. His mom
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had left his phone active just so she could replay
his voicemail messages and hear his voice. On that day,
I saw his name flash across my phone, and my
stomach dropped as I went to answer it. When I did,
all I heard was my name spoken in his voice,
plain as day. I was so spooked I hung up
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immediately and I cried. It felt like he was calling
me as if it was a normal day to tell
me about something that had just happened. But in retrospect,
I find it really comforting now. Jacob says, my dad
died of cancer over ten years ago. A little less
than a month after I got on my knees and
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prayed for some type of a sign that there is
something after this life and that Dad was still alive.
At three ten in the morning, I got a voicemail
from a private number. Through the static, my dad's voice
emerged and said Hello, Jacoby, which was a name only
my dad called me by. I still have that recording,
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and I let my family and friends listen to it,
and we all agree that it is definitely my dad's voice.
In their nineteen seventy nine book Phone Calls from the Dead,
parapsychologists Raymond Bayliss and d Scott Rogo examine this phenomena
and great depth. They say, for as long as there
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have been methods of electronic communication between the living, there
have been reports of the departed and how they are
somehow able to access these devices and make contact with
us from beyond the grave. Having looked at numerous examples
of this, the authors noted several common themes. The majority
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of such contacts occurred within the first twenty four hours
of the deceased caller having passed away, although in a
limited number of cases this period could be extended for
up to two years or more. A significant number of
the callers seemed to be almost confused or disoriented for
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the duration of the call, discussing subjects which were either
cryptic or irrelevant with the recipient. Quite often. The witnesses
involved report that the quality of the line was very poor,
with the words being spoken difficult to distinguish because of
static or white noise. In addition, it was common for
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the voice of the speakers to be described as muffled
or metallic, sometimes sounding as if they were standing some
distance from the handset. Eventually, after analyzing and assessing the
various reports they had managed to unearth, the two scientists
formed the opinion that such calls could be divided into
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two categories. The first of these classifications involves receiving a
call from someone who has passed away, although the caller
does not speak when the phone is answered. The second
presents as a seemingly innocuous call from a loved one,
where it is later discovered that the conversation should have
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been impossible, as the friend or relative in question had
recently passed on. In the spring of nineteen sixty nine,
a young man named Carl had rented a cottage for
a weekend vacation. Upon arriving to the cottage, Carl was
pleasantly surprised to find an old fashioned telephone handset sitting
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on the bedside table. But on the first evening of
his trip, he had been drifting off to sleep when
he was unexpectedly awoken by the sound of the phone
ringing insistently beside him. Half asleep and glancing at his wristwatch,
Carl could see that it was eleven fifteen pm, which
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led him to believe that the call must be important.
Lifting up the handset, he was somewhat bewildered to hear
his father's voice on the other end of the line,
informing him that his mother needed to speak with him.
When he tried to ask what the issue was, his
father had continued to speak, almost as if he was
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not hearing Carl's reply. The young man had become increasingly
concerned and frustrated as he was repeatedly urged to call her.
He demanded to know why his father could simply not
pass the phone over to his mother, as she should
have been there with him by his side. After a
minute or two, having made no progress, his father had
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suddenly made reference to the fact that he was in
a beautiful place and then hung up, replacing the receiver.
Carl had then tried to call his parents several times
at their home phone number, only to find that the
phone on the night stand seemed unable to make outgoing calls. Irritated,
he got out of bed and searched the rest of
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the cottage for another phone, only to discover that the
one in the bedroom appeared to be the only phone
inside the premises. Having struggled to sleep that night, Carl
had risen early the next morning and made his way
into the nearest town so he could place a call
to his parents. Upon locating a public phone booth, he
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was shocked to discover from relatives that his mother was
unable to speak to him at the time, as she
was still far too upset. She had been lying in
bed with his father the previous evening when he suddenly
began to convulse, dying of a heart attack. A short
time later, on making further inquiries with the family, he
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was even more unnerved to discover the time of his
father's death, which had been recorded by the attending paramedics
at exactly eleven fifteen pm. It was only afterwards, as
he had quickly packed his things back at the cottage,
that the bewildered and traumatized Karl discovered that the phone
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by his bed was purely ornamental and had never been
connected to a working phone line. During the course of
some of these exchanges, the caller demonstrates a definite purpose
or agenda as they speak, determined to ensure that the
reason for their call is fully understood by the recipient.
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It is during these incidents that authors Bayliss and Rogo
noticed the highest percentage of distorted or robotic speech patterns
reported by witnesses. It's interesting, as I told you my
EVP story in the last segment, hearing that word robotic.
When you listen to electronic voice phenomena and our deceased
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loved ones rearrange the sounds of rain drops or a
fan in the background, or whatever white noise it is,
the voices do seem distorted and robotic. Could it be
the same intelligence when they're making one of these phone calls.
When examining these cases, it seems easy to dismiss the
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idea of people being contacted by the dead. Often it
is alleged that the person receiving the call must have
been tired or mistaken about what they heard on the line.
Sometimes they're explained as dreams or the product of an
overactive imagination. The fact that in most cases there's no
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tangible evidence to prove the call ever took place offers
no lead and find out the truth of this matter.
Witnesses have reported that the dead have phoned them from
withheld or private numbers, sometimes from phone numbers they recognize
or already saved in their device, but examination of call
histories and phone bill files never show any record of
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these communications, which only further undermines the testimony of those
reporting them. But this does not necessarily prove that the
witness didn't experience something strange. Authors Baylis and Rogo say
that in these occurrences, although no real phone call takes place,
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the spirits of the dead may merely be manipulating communication
devices to give the impression that a call was received.
Some commentators have attempted to tie these experiences to other phenomena.
For instance, a middle aged woman traveling through Nebraska one
evening observed a strange object in the skins eyes. Just
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as she returned home, her phone began to ring. The
man who spoke to her on the other end of
the line had a metallic, robotic toned to his voice
and identified himself as Roger. When she informed him that
she didn't know anybody by that name, he told her
that he was her brother and then hung up. The woman,
who was an only child, shrugged the incident off as
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a wrong number, but some years later she learned, long
before she was born, her mother had given birth to
a stillborn baby boy. His name was Roger. If the
spirits of the dead can manifest themselves physically to their
loved ones using ADC's after death communications that we so
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often talk about, leaving no trace of their appearance, then
why should they not be able to do the same
utilizing our current technology. Recipients received comfort as if it's
one final chance to speak with their love ones and
give them hope that they survive after death. Now, if
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you're anything like me, when I see a phone call
from an unidentified number, I tend to think it's spam
or somebody who's solicitor. But could it just be from
someone we don't expect calling from across the veil. It's
time to go into our next break and then we'll
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be back with some more stories. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain, continue to explore phone calls from the deceased.
This story is from Bonnie. My grandparents died in a
fire in their home this past Thanksgiving. I was very
close with my grandmother and it had been very traumatizing
for us all. Several weeks later, my mom received a
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call on her cell phone from my grandparents' house phone
while she was at work, and unfortunately she couldn't answer.
That very same night, I received a call from my
grandmother's cell phone. It disconnected after twenty five seconds. I
started calling it often, and usually nothing happened. Recently, I
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was having a particularly hard time when I got the
urge to call her cell phone. This time it connected.
I heard static, but then it disconnected after twenty five seconds.
I was holding the phone and staring at it in
disbelief when I began to receive text messages from her
cell number. The first text simply said my name, and
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a few blank messages were sent. Then she said she
had no voice, couldn't speak, and loved me very much.
No more messages came through. It was then I had
a full blown crying meltdown. It was shocking. My grandmother
never texted. She was unable to. She had an old
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flip phone that was destroyed in the fire. The number
was still hers, it was not disconnected. I ended up
finding a medium to connect with my grandmother, and the
medium told me, not knowing any information, that my grandmother
was trying to reach me on the telephone. My mom
and my family can't seem to accept that this is possible,
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but in my world, I believe she has contacted me,
and my life is definitely better for it. Stacy says,
less than a week after my mom passed, I was
driving and my cell phone rang and I saw Mom
on the screen. It was a call from her cell phone.
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I stared at it for a bit and thought maybe
my dad or my sister had the phone, so I
picked it up and said hello. There was only silence
and kind of a crackly static for around three minutes
before the call ended. Neither my dad or sister had
touched the phone. Although I never heard her voice, I
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really believe it was Mom reaching out from the other side.
Kent says my best friend's boyfriend overdosed in his sleep,
and for the next three months she received phone calls
from his canceled phone number, and although the first call
was super soul crushing to her, the more they came
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in the more comfort they brought her. Eventually these phone calls,
but she came to the conclusion that he was safe
and happy in his new home in Heaven. Kay says,
my grandmother's phone called me three times the week after
she died. My family just brushed it off as maybe
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it was the cat stepping on the phone, as Grandma
had me on speed dial. But I was so close
to my grandmother. I felt in my heart it was
her giving me a sign. Mike says, after my oldest
brother died, I really wanted to talk to him, and
I called out to him. That night, which was about
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a month after his death, he came to me in
a dream. It was very dark, but I could still
see him clearly, and the first thing I noticed was
all of his tattoos were gone. He was smiling, told
me he was okay, and to let my grandmother know
he was okay. My grandmother died around three months after
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this dream. I asked him if he could see us,
and he said sometimes. We exchanged a few other words,
and suddenly everything got darker and I felt like he
had to go. I told him that I love him
and I really miss him, and he replied, I love
you too, boy, but I'm always with you. And when
I woke up, I saw a mist hovering over me
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that suddenly vanished. Vivian says, a few months after my
father died, one night, I felt like I spoke with
him on the phone. At the time, I thought I
had been dreaming, but I remember it so well as
if it happened yesterday. My father was the only person
who called me viv in this dream that wasn't a dream.
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The phone rang and answered it and said hello, Hello, VIVI,
my father's voice said to me. But I knew that
it couldn't be him. He was dead. Who is this talking?
I said, viv you know who this is, don't you?
He said, who is this? I asked again. I couldn't
bear to say his name, as I missed him so much. Now, VIVI,
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you know who this is? He said again, Daddy? Can
that really be you? I finally called him daddy, And
when I said his name, I didn't hear another word,
as if I had acknowledged who it was, and that's
all I needed to hear. I don't recall hearing the
phone click, but there was silence. I believe, just as
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sure as I am standing here, that my father was
talking to me. You and I know that death and
loss are highly significant events, and these can affect our dreams.
We're so used to having these people in our life
that when we get to the dream world, we interact
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with them. However, from our past episodes on dreams, including
lucid dreaming, most dreams of our loved ones simply fade away.
We wake up and we don't remember our dreams. I believe,
as well as many experts, that those dreams that you
can still recall to this day are actual dream visitations,
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not unlike near death experiences that are as crystal clear
to the experiencer as if they just happened today. Tracy
lost her husband, Luke, from a pulmonary embolism while he
was undergoing treatment for lung cancer. Luke was in the
habit of phoning his wife often during his stay in
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the hospital. Sometimes he even rang her in the middle
of the night because the prospect of dying scared him.
His wife would reassure him that he was being well
looked after in the hospital and that he would be
home soon. Unfortunately, Luke lost his battle with the illness
and passed away suddenly. They buried him on the thirteenth
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of December. One of the possessions they placed in the
coffin with him was his cell phone. Around two weeks
after Luke died, Tracy says, I began to receive missed
calls in the middle of the night, apparently from Luke.
Something always made me wake up to see my phone
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screen flashing miss call Luke. I rang the number back
straight away, knowing full well that his phone was buried. Obviously,
the phone went direct to a message saying this phone
is switched off, Please try later. I was able to
show several witnesses at the time these mist calls, and
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they probably thought I was crazy. However, on Christmas Day,
the last missed call came in in the middle of
the night. Following this call, all the Luke mist call
data that it's automatically stored on my phone disappeared, despite
me having shown other people the record of it. Tiffany says,
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I got a dream call, perhaps the most lucid dream
I have ever had. It was one day after my
best friend from high school passed away from a car accident.
We were eighteen and had just graduated. My cell phone
rang I answered and heard Hey. I knew it was
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his voice. He said, tiff do you know who this is?
I said, yes, but it can't be you. You're dead.
How are you doing this? He said, I'm using your grandparents' landline.
That's exactly where I was living at the time. So
I jumped out of bed, opened my bedroom door, expecting
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to see the phone being used in some capacity, but
it sat there motionless on the receiver while I talked
to my dead best friend. I said to him, Chad,
you're scaring me, at which point he said to me,
don't be scared. I'm just using my energy to call
you through their phone because I need you to know
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that I am okay, I am not hurting, and you
need to keep an eye on Heather, who was our
mutual best friend, because she's not handling this very well
and you have to keep her from getting messed up
with that boy she's dating. Then he said, do you
have any questions for me? I said, I love you.
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He said, I love you too. You don't want to
ask me anything, So I asked, what's it like? He answered,
sometimes it's really cool and sometimes it's really warm, but
for the most part, it's perfect. Then we said I
love you one more time. And even after I woke up,
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the dream was so clear I swear it really happened.
Although it might have been a dream, I am convinced
that it was a visit from Chad. Junior says, my
dad's cell phone rang one week after he passed. He
was on my cell phone account and I hadn't gotten
around to canceling the line. I heard the phone ringing.
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I followed it into my mom's room, then to her dresser,
and on top of the dresser there were two small
drawers to keep small things like rings and jewelry, and
Mom had placed Dad's phone in there. I opened the
drawer with the phone that was ringing. I picked it
up and it was still lit. It was an old
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Motorola flip phone. And what's so weird is it showed
the number as the same phone I was about to answer.
When I picked it up. It hung up immediately. Nothing
else happened around my father's death except that one incident
a week after he died, but that was more than
enough for me to know he was still around. Katie says,
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after my favorite Aunt Pat died, my phone kept getting
FaceTime calls from her phone number, and every single time
the phone would ring, I would see a hummingbird. This
happened maybe five or six times, and I believe that's
the sign that Aunt Pat is still with me. Hadley says,
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ten hours after my mom passed, I received a text
from her cell phone. All it said was I love you,
proud of you. I immediately knew everything was good with her.
We'll be heading off into our next break, but when
we come back, we'll have some more stories telephone calls
from the deceased, and also some words from some of
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our favorite people, including thoughts on the afterlife from inventor
Thomas Edison. Will be right back. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking about phone calls with
the deceased. Let's go back in time. You know the
name Thomas Alva Edison. Born in eighteen forty seven, passed
in nineteen thirty one. He is probably the most famous
inventor in history, holding almost eleven hundred patents from the
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early inventions of the light bulb and the phonograph, the
motion picture camera, electric power. But did you know he
was working on a death machine. It sounds far fetched,
but it's a way to communicy with people here on
earth from loved ones in the spirit world. It was
not far fetched at the time. You see. Edison lived
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in a time when spirituality was a big thing. There
was this spiritualist movement, there was ghost photography featuring ectoplasm
ouiji boards, seances, floating tables, tapping, and knocks and bangs
coming from around the room. In the twenties, there may
have been eight million people interested in spiritualism, especially following
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the horrors of World War One and the great loss
of life. It's totally understandable that people were looking for
ways to communicate with their loved ones. Unfortunately, this also
gave rise to so many phony mediums trying to profit
off those grieving. Edison hypothesized that if we do indeed
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survive death, then the instrumentation which is designed to establish
contact with the dead must be compiled of extremely sensitive
components to help these subtle electrons which the dead are
made of, to manipulate or tap into the physical matter
of this world in order for communication to be established.
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Here's some words by Thomas Edison. The electron theory gives
us a reply which is wholly satisfactory. I have had
the matter roughly calculated, and have at hand the data
of the calculation. I am sure that a highly organized
entity consisting of millions of electrons, yet still remaining too
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small to be visible through any existing microscope, is possible. Now,
he said that in nineteen twenty when asked on his
views of life in death. A telephone requires electricity in
order for it to function. Therefore, if we do survive
death and manage to call the living by some means,
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then the electrons inside the telephone would need to be
manipulated to enable the telephone to ring in order for
someone to answer it. Although Thomas Edison never completed his
machine to communicate between life and death, and one hundred
years later no one has perfected it doesn't mean it's
not possible. In the past, we've heard from doctor Mark
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Pittstick on the board of the Soul Phone, also the
great Sonia Ronaldi, who captures voices and pictures of those
in the afterlife. It's just a matter of time, my
friend and I think they'll be more communication with the
other side. Remember, energy cannot be destroyed. Most of the
things in this universe are invisible to our eyes, but
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very real, and two or more forms of energy can
be living at the same place at the exact same
time as you sit, or stand or walk, listening to
shades of the afterlife right now now around you could
be cell phone signals, GPS signals, Wi Fi signals, music,
television signals, and so much more. Yes, it's one hundred
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percent possible that our loved ones exist in this same space,
invisible to our eyes, but very very real. Next two
more of my favorite people, which are Coast to Coast
AM's host George Nori and the late great author Rosemary
Ellen Guiley. Together in twenty twelve, they published a book
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called Talking to the Dead, which you may enjoy adding
to your library. In it, they talk about technology, strange
signals that come from the other world, Edison's telephone to
the spirit world, the birth of electronic voice, phenomena, spiricom
life in the afterlife, and much more. I want to
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read just a little bit talking about phone call from
the deceased. Imagine George Nori reading this to you now.
Nighttime radio is the perfect confessional. Every night as host
of Coast to Coast AM, I hear it all. Meetings
with the dead, out of body journeys, encounters with aliens
and entities, prophetic dreams, miracles, you name it, about the strange,
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we get it nightly. One of the most popular topics
that people cannot seem to hear enough about or talk
enough about, is contact with the dead. Almost everyone has
a story about a time when they felt visited or
contacted by someone who had passed over. Perhaps the experience
was comforting, perhaps it was unsettling. Either way, it was
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definitely unforgettable and maybe even life changing. On this night,
Rosemary Ellen Guilee has joined me in the studio to
talk especially about communication with the dead, and take calls
on open life lines. We know it's going to be
an active night. Some nights are just like that. You
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can feel a charge in the air, like the coast
to coast audience has linked up in a particular energized group. Mind.
My producer Tom dan Heiser can feel it too. Tom
screens the calls. Sometimes the phone lines are hot even
before we start taking the calls. After we talk for
a few minutes about Rosemary's latest research in spirit communications,
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we open the lines. They are already full with people
wanting to tell their stories about talking to the dead.
Beth East of Rockies I said to the first caller,
you're on the air, George. Beth sounded hesitant. Go ahead, Beth,
You're on the air. Yes, okay, thank you. I'm so
glad you're doing this subject and I want to tell
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you and Rosemary, what happened to me. There is a
brief pause, and we can almost hear Beth taking a
big breath to plunge ahead on what must be a
difficult topic. Beth continued, my dad died several years ago
in a car accident. It was a big shock to
everyone in our family, and her voice broke with emotion.
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I had a hard time dealing with it. She took
a moment to compose herself. But here's the weird part.
She says, about three weeks after he was gone, I
think he called me on the phone. Rosemary nods to
me in the studio. We've both heard these types of
stories many times. He called you on the phone. I
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said to Beth, tell us what happened. I was at
home by myself one day. It was in the afternoon.
The phone rang, and I thought it sounded strange. I mean,
it didn't have its usual ring. It sounded kind of distorted.
I thought maybe there was something going wrong with the
phone line. When I picked up the receiver and said hello,
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I could hear a lot of static. It reminded me
of how long distance calls used to sound, you know,
like they were coming from very far away with lots
of interference on the line. I didn't hear any voices
at first, and I said hello two or three times,
and then this voice called out, Beth, Beth, is that you?
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And it sounded just like my dad. I'm not making
this up. I'd know his voice anywhere. What did you
say back, I asked. I was so shocked I couldn't
say anything. He repeated, Beth, is that you? I said, Dad,
is that you? I was practically shouting. He just kept repeating, Beth, Beth, Beth.
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The static sound got worse, and his voice fainter and fainter,
and then it just stopped. I kept shouting into the
phone for him to come back, and there was nothing
but static, and the line just went dead, like someone
pulled the chord out of the wall. I hung up
the phone and then picked it up again, and the
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dial tone was normal. I was pretty shook up for
the rest of the day. In fact, I still am
if I think about it. I keep telling myself it
was a fluke, a wrong number, and it was a
man who sounded just like my dad, but he called
me by name, Rosemary. What do you make of this?
I said, Do you think Beth might have really talked
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to her father and was he calling from the other side.
It's quite possible, she answered. There is a phenomena literally
called phone calls from the dead or anomalous telephone contacts,
and it has been documented just about as long as
the telephone has been in existence. Under certain circumstances, the
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dead seemed to be able to access our phone technology
and make calls to the living. Many of them are
just like Beth described. They are full of static, but
the voice of the dead person is recognizable. Most phone
calls from the dead are very short, less than a minute,
although a few longer ones have been documented, and I
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can think of one from parapsychology literature that was reported
to last about thirty minutes. There are so many stories
in this book that's called Talking to the Dead by
George Nori and Rosemary Ellen Guiy. Do you find that
these stories help you, let you see what's possible, perhaps
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make you want to answer an unknown phone call. You
too may have a story, and I welcome your stories.
You don't need to be famous, you don't need to
have a book published, just you being a real human
being with your experiences, your signs. Perhaps you've received some
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communication through a text or a phone call. Perhaps you've
had something interesting happen with electricity or some other sign
from your loved one. If you have a story, I'd
love to hear it, and I'd love to share it
with fellow listeners. We have a Facebook group. If you
go to my website, we Don't Die dot com, just
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click on Facebook group. You can share your experience there. Also,
while you're there, don't forget to sign up for our
free Sunday gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. But
if you feel more comfortable emailing me Easy to remember
Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. I hope you never
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forget that there's more to life than meets the eye,
and there's more to you than you know. Here's some
words by Albert Einstein. When something vibrates, the electrons of
the entire universe resonate with it. Everything is connected. The
greatest tragedy of human existence is the illusion of separateness.
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Our separation from each other is an optical illusion. If
you're an afterlife warrior, you can take my challenge. Listen
to all episodes of Shades of the Afterlife and see
if that changes your view a bit about life, death,
the afterlife, and who you really are a divine soul
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I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Each episode will discuss the reasons we now know that
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our loved ones have survived physical death and so will we.
Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. As I talk to
you today, it's October. It is pouring rain outside. Rain
drops are hitting the roof. It's cool going into the fall,
and I just had a memory that came flooding back.
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It was nineteen years ago this month that I got
my first EVP electronic voice phenomena. There I was in
a cabin at a retreat center in Rhinebeck, New York.
The course was on electronic voice phenomena with Tom and
Lisa Butler, who wrote the book There Is No Death
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and There Are No Dead. After hearing many examples of
electronic voice phenomena that is, loved ones speak looking through
recordings on digital tape recorders, I retreated to my cabin
on the Saturday night of the class. Sunday was to
be our final day. At that point, I had studied
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enough about the afterlife and had taken a medium course
to know the reality of the afterlife. But nineteen years
ago I didn't have the evidence I needed to go
public with this. So there I was in my cabin
alone in the rain, holding my digital tape recorder. I
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pressed record. I imagined my aunt, uncle, grandmother, and grandfather,
who were all deceased, standing at the foot of my bed.
I said to them, if this is real and you
guys are still alive, and if I'm supposed to help
people believe in the afterlife. I need you to try
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to talk very loud. I'll let this record one minute,
and then I'll say good night. I held my recorder
in my hand, recording the sound of raindrops, and after
a minute, I said good night. In the class, we
had learned that our loved ones on the other side
can rearrange the sounds that are recorded and make them
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into voices. As much as I believed this, I needed
my own recording. I hadn't brought my computer or any
programs where I could turn up the volume or loop
the recording over and over, trying to listen for words.
But as I pressed the play button on the recording,
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and around second number forty six on the replay, I
heard something that gave me chills. I stopped it, rewound it,
and played it again and again. A man's voice says
good night Sandra. Two women whisper good night, good night,
and another male voice came in saying good night. Wow.
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That moment changed my life. I went from believing in
the afterlife to knowing also. I'm not proud to say this,
but I got a little freaked out and a little scared.
You see, it started making sense that there's this veil
between our world and the next, and I questioned, are
people always around? Do I have privacy? It may sound silly,
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and in the past episodes I spoke of a great
book called do dead people watch Me in the shower?
The answer is they don't. We do have our privacy.
The good news is I went to class the next
day and played my EVP for the group. My classmates
all had lost someone significant to them, and I saw
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in a minute how hearing a voice from an EVP
can help those grieving. It was that moment that I
decided to do lots of recordings and experiment with other people,
and eventually here we are, nineteen years later on Shades
of the Afterlife, with now over two hundred episodes discussing
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the many reasons to believe in the afterlife. But as
I contemplate this episode today, I think of the many
things that our loved ones can do in time and space,
turning on and off televisions, leaving voices on tape recorders,
sending text messages, emails, and even phone calls from the deceased.
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So if it's okay with you, I want to share
some of these stories, some from fellow listeners, some from
stories I've heard along the way, talk to you about
some experts who have actually studied this and create the
possibility as I'm sure our loved ones are listening as well,
of how they can work with us and give us
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more signs that they live on. A few weeks ago,
you heard some words from listener Kathy who received an
email after her son had passed. It came from an
email address of a person she didn't know, and it
simply had one word in the body of it, Sean,
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which is her son's name. Doing a little research, she
found the person who sent it had been long dead.
I also recall the story of one listener who told
me that her son had newly passed. She had purchased
a smart TV, one that had all the video apps
on it as well as being able to connect to
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cable television. She lived alone, ran out to do a
few errands. When she returned to her house, not only
was the television on, but it was on YouTube. And
what YouTube was playing was a replay of one of
my Sunday gatherings. And if you're new to the show,
Every Sunday, two pm New York time on Zoom, we
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do a live gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included.
So she watched the replay. It opened her mind to
the possibility of her son living on, and she's joined
our community. But who turned on that television? Who tuned
it to YouTube and found a Sunday gathering? A few
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years back, I got a wonderful email from a man
whose three year old child had recently passed. He wasn't
interested in the afterlife, but to distract him, he picked
up his phone and simply said, Siri, play some news.
Siri did not turn on a news channel. She started
playing an episode of our podcast. That man told me
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he listened to almost every episode, giving him hope and
faith that his daughter lives on. How these things happen,
we may never or until we get to the other side,
but they're real. They do happen, and I want to
share with you some incredible stories, Carol says. I've had
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several signs, but this one is the first and the best.
My brother died in two thousand and I had a
picture of him on my dresser. Only a couple of
weeks after he died. I was in my room and
I had been looking a long time at his picture.
I said out loud, I can't believe you're gone, and
I miss you so much. Right Ben, My ceiling light
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slowly dimmed and went back to normal, not once, but
three times in a row. It was slow and deliberate.
I remember looking at my light switch on the wall
and thinking I don't even have a dimmer switch. I
was filled with a huge adrenaline rush and never felt
anything like it. To make it even more validating, my
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brother was an electrician. I knew he heard me, and
he was telling me he's still here with me. From
that moment on, I went from feeling utter pain and
despair to peace and hope. Jeanne says. My wife and
I met at a large electronics store that we both
worked at back in the nineties. I ran the computer
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upgrades department. She worked in music and movies. The store
didn't last long. It went out of business and the
building was sold to a local community college and converted
to a campus. The area she worked in was turned
into the college auditorium. When she died unexpectedly last year,
I went to the college to ask if we could
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hold a celebration of life in the auditorium. They said yes,
and I planned out an event in her honor. I
stood on the stage telling everyone the story of how
we met and the significance of the building we were in.
Just as I was telling the story, a set of
stage lights started going on and off without skipping a beat.
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I looked up at the lights and said, let me
finish telling this story, Becky, How could I ever forget
how I met you? And then the lights stopped blinking
and just stayed on. There was laughter and smiles because
I was one hundred percent confident that she was there
and she wouldn't have missed it. Susan says, my dad
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recently passed and he reached out to me hours after
he passed, and I was still with him at the time.
He had no technoledge, but his name Dad kept showing
up among my text messages. He had never texted me before,
and he never even had a phone that did text.
I know Britt helped him from the other side, and
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he now understands technology. I love the amazing contexts I
have received from most of my family who have passed
over the years. This dad says. My son was twenty
years old and passed away on April fifteenth last year,
which was my birthday, he passed in a motorcycle accident.
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Later that day, I was using my phone to watch
some old videos on YouTube. I put my phone down
on the arm of the chair and stood up. I
looked down at my phone and had a thought my
son was trying to contact me in some way without
me touching it. The screen started to scroll down on
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its own at a frantic pace and stopped at a
James Dean video about his death from a road accident,
dying in his car. I looked at my girlfriend. She
saw it all happen too, so I wasn't imagining it.
Ten minutes later, my son's picture fell off the sideboard
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and onto the floor. We were both semi spooped, but
I also felt kind of easy about him coming to
see me and giving me this sign. Thank you, Christopher.
I think about you every day and I love you Dad.
Prior to my own dad's death, I had given his
nurse my cell phone number, and she had given me
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hers in case of an emergency. We never did exchange
phone calls, and I forgot that her number was stored
on my phone. Many times after my dad passed, when
I was in deep grief or was dealing with something troubling.
My phone would ring just for a couple of rings,
and it said Dad's nurse. If I answered the phone,
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no one was there. Of course, it's possible that it
is a famous butt dial accidentally being dialed by her. However,
why would I be the last phone number dialed and
why would it happen so many different times? To me,
they were just gentle reminders of my dad saying I'm
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still here and everything will be okay. It's time for
our first break and we'll be back with more stories
and more phone calls from the dead. You're listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
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the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain, and today we're talking about
phone calls from the dead and other interesting things that
they can do with technology, electricity, etc. How about another story.
This one is from Mandy. She says, my mom had
died in December of twenty fourteen, and in the spring
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of twenty fifteen, I got a text message from her phone.
I was with my friend in the carped up mom
and it was one of those inspirational messages in the
form of a meme. I'm glad my friend was there
to witness that we had disconnected mom's phone. A few
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weeks after she had passed. I tried to call the
number back, assuming it was assigned to another person, and
I got the message that the phone number was not
in service. It was very strange, yet very comforting. I
do believe it was from my mom. Ari says. I
was in my living room in my house and my
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mom was doing something in her room. My grandfather passed
in mid November, and my mom had kept his phone.
My mom had left her phone on the couch right
next to me, and it suddenly began to ring, and
it flashed that my grandfather's phone was calling her. I
ran to my mom and showed her the ringing phone.
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She opened the drawer and my grandfather's phone was indeed
calling her. Just as she picked it up, the phone
stopped ringing. We believe it was my grandfather saying hello.
Barry says, my best friend killed himself in twenty fourteen,
and I received a call from his number. His mom
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had left his phone active just so she could replay
his voicemail messages and hear his voice. On that day,
I saw his name flash across my phone, and my
stomach dropped as I went to answer it. When I did,
all I heard was my name spoken in his voice,
plain as day. I was so spooked I hung up
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immediately and I cried. It felt like he was calling
me as if it was a normal day to tell
me about something that had just happened. But in retrospect,
I find it really comforting now. Jacob says, my dad
died of cancer over ten years ago. A little less
than a month after I got on my knees and
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prayed for some type of a sign that there is
something after this life and that Dad was still alive.
At three ten in the morning, I got a voicemail
from a private number. Through the static, my dad's voice
emerged and said Hello, Jacoby, which was a name only
my dad called me by. I still have that recording,
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and I let my family and friends listen to it,
and we all agree that it is definitely my dad's voice.
In their nineteen seventy nine book Phone Calls from the Dead,
parapsychologists Raymond Bayliss and d Scott Rogo examine this phenomena
and great depth. They say, for as long as there
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have been methods of electronic communication between the living, there
have been reports of the departed and how they are
somehow able to access these devices and make contact with
us from beyond the grave. Having looked at numerous examples
of this, the authors noted several common themes. The majority
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of such contacts occurred within the first twenty four hours
of the deceased caller having passed away, although in a
limited number of cases this period could be extended for
up to two years or more. A significant number of
the callers seemed to be almost confused or disoriented for
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the duration of the call, discussing subjects which were either
cryptic or irrelevant with the recipient. Quite often. The witnesses
involved report that the quality of the line was very poor,
with the words being spoken difficult to distinguish because of
static or white noise. In addition, it was common for
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the voice of the speakers to be described as muffled
or metallic, sometimes sounding as if they were standing some
distance from the handset. Eventually, after analyzing and assessing the
various reports they had managed to unearth, the two scientists
formed the opinion that such calls could be divided into
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two categories. The first of these classifications involves receiving a
call from someone who has passed away, although the caller
does not speak when the phone is answered. The second
presents as a seemingly innocuous call from a loved one,
where it is later discovered that the conversation should have
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been impossible, as the friend or relative in question had
recently passed on. In the spring of nineteen sixty nine,
a young man named Carl had rented a cottage for
a weekend vacation. Upon arriving to the cottage, Carl was
pleasantly surprised to find an old fashioned telephone handset sitting
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on the bedside table. But on the first evening of
his trip, he had been drifting off to sleep when
he was unexpectedly awoken by the sound of the phone
ringing insistently beside him. Half asleep and glancing at his wristwatch,
Carl could see that it was eleven fifteen pm, which
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led him to believe that the call must be important.
Lifting up the handset, he was somewhat bewildered to hear
his father's voice on the other end of the line,
informing him that his mother needed to speak with him.
When he tried to ask what the issue was, his
father had continued to speak, almost as if he was
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not hearing Carl's reply. The young man had become increasingly
concerned and frustrated as he was repeatedly urged to call her.
He demanded to know why his father could simply not
pass the phone over to his mother, as she should
have been there with him by his side. After a
minute or two, having made no progress, his father had
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suddenly made reference to the fact that he was in
a beautiful place and then hung up, replacing the receiver.
Carl had then tried to call his parents several times
at their home phone number, only to find that the
phone on the night stand seemed unable to make outgoing calls. Irritated,
he got out of bed and searched the rest of
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the cottage for another phone, only to discover that the
one in the bedroom appeared to be the only phone
inside the premises. Having struggled to sleep that night, Carl
had risen early the next morning and made his way
into the nearest town so he could place a call
to his parents. Upon locating a public phone booth, he
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was shocked to discover from relatives that his mother was
unable to speak to him at the time, as she
was still far too upset. She had been lying in
bed with his father the previous evening when he suddenly
began to convulse, dying of a heart attack. A short
time later, on making further inquiries with the family, he
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was even more unnerved to discover the time of his
father's death, which had been recorded by the attending paramedics
at exactly eleven fifteen pm. It was only afterwards, as
he had quickly packed his things back at the cottage,
that the bewildered and traumatized Karl discovered that the phone
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by his bed was purely ornamental and had never been
connected to a working phone line. During the course of
some of these exchanges, the caller demonstrates a definite purpose
or agenda as they speak, determined to ensure that the
reason for their call is fully understood by the recipient.
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It is during these incidents that authors Bayliss and Rogo
noticed the highest percentage of distorted or robotic speech patterns
reported by witnesses. It's interesting, as I told you my
EVP story in the last segment, hearing that word robotic.
When you listen to electronic voice phenomena and our deceased
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loved ones rearrange the sounds of rain drops or a
fan in the background, or whatever white noise it is,
the voices do seem distorted and robotic. Could it be
the same intelligence when they're making one of these phone calls.
When examining these cases, it seems easy to dismiss the
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idea of people being contacted by the dead. Often it
is alleged that the person receiving the call must have
been tired or mistaken about what they heard on the line.
Sometimes they're explained as dreams or the product of an
overactive imagination. The fact that in most cases there's no
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tangible evidence to prove the call ever took place offers
no lead and find out the truth of this matter.
Witnesses have reported that the dead have phoned them from
withheld or private numbers, sometimes from phone numbers they recognize
or already saved in their device, but examination of call
histories and phone bill files never show any record of
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these communications, which only further undermines the testimony of those
reporting them. But this does not necessarily prove that the
witness didn't experience something strange. Authors Baylis and Rogo say
that in these occurrences, although no real phone call takes place,
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the spirits of the dead may merely be manipulating communication
devices to give the impression that a call was received.
Some commentators have attempted to tie these experiences to other phenomena.
For instance, a middle aged woman traveling through Nebraska one
evening observed a strange object in the skins eyes. Just
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as she returned home, her phone began to ring. The
man who spoke to her on the other end of
the line had a metallic, robotic toned to his voice
and identified himself as Roger. When she informed him that
she didn't know anybody by that name, he told her
that he was her brother and then hung up. The woman,
who was an only child, shrugged the incident off as
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a wrong number, but some years later she learned, long
before she was born, her mother had given birth to
a stillborn baby boy. His name was Roger. If the
spirits of the dead can manifest themselves physically to their
loved ones using ADC's after death communications that we so
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often talk about, leaving no trace of their appearance, then
why should they not be able to do the same
utilizing our current technology. Recipients received comfort as if it's
one final chance to speak with their love ones and
give them hope that they survive after death. Now, if
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you're anything like me, when I see a phone call
from an unidentified number, I tend to think it's spam
or somebody who's solicitor. But could it just be from
someone we don't expect calling from across the veil. It's
time to go into our next break and then we'll
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be back with some more stories. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain, continue to explore phone calls from the deceased.
This story is from Bonnie. My grandparents died in a
fire in their home this past Thanksgiving. I was very
close with my grandmother and it had been very traumatizing
for us all. Several weeks later, my mom received a
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call on her cell phone from my grandparents' house phone
while she was at work, and unfortunately she couldn't answer.
That very same night, I received a call from my
grandmother's cell phone. It disconnected after twenty five seconds. I
started calling it often, and usually nothing happened. Recently, I
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was having a particularly hard time when I got the
urge to call her cell phone. This time it connected.
I heard static, but then it disconnected after twenty five seconds.
I was holding the phone and staring at it in
disbelief when I began to receive text messages from her
cell number. The first text simply said my name, and
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a few blank messages were sent. Then she said she
had no voice, couldn't speak, and loved me very much.
No more messages came through. It was then I had
a full blown crying meltdown. It was shocking. My grandmother
never texted. She was unable to. She had an old
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flip phone that was destroyed in the fire. The number
was still hers, it was not disconnected. I ended up
finding a medium to connect with my grandmother, and the
medium told me, not knowing any information, that my grandmother
was trying to reach me on the telephone. My mom
and my family can't seem to accept that this is possible,
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but in my world, I believe she has contacted me,
and my life is definitely better for it. Stacy says,
less than a week after my mom passed, I was
driving and my cell phone rang and I saw Mom
on the screen. It was a call from her cell phone.
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I stared at it for a bit and thought maybe
my dad or my sister had the phone, so I
picked it up and said hello. There was only silence
and kind of a crackly static for around three minutes
before the call ended. Neither my dad or sister had
touched the phone. Although I never heard her voice, I
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really believe it was Mom reaching out from the other side.
Kent says my best friend's boyfriend overdosed in his sleep,
and for the next three months she received phone calls
from his canceled phone number, and although the first call
was super soul crushing to her, the more they came
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in the more comfort they brought her. Eventually these phone calls,
but she came to the conclusion that he was safe
and happy in his new home in Heaven. Kay says,
my grandmother's phone called me three times the week after
she died. My family just brushed it off as maybe
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it was the cat stepping on the phone, as Grandma
had me on speed dial. But I was so close
to my grandmother. I felt in my heart it was
her giving me a sign. Mike says, after my oldest
brother died, I really wanted to talk to him, and
I called out to him. That night, which was about
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a month after his death, he came to me in
a dream. It was very dark, but I could still
see him clearly, and the first thing I noticed was
all of his tattoos were gone. He was smiling, told
me he was okay, and to let my grandmother know
he was okay. My grandmother died around three months after
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this dream. I asked him if he could see us,
and he said sometimes. We exchanged a few other words,
and suddenly everything got darker and I felt like he
had to go. I told him that I love him
and I really miss him, and he replied, I love
you too, boy, but I'm always with you. And when
I woke up, I saw a mist hovering over me
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that suddenly vanished. Vivian says, a few months after my
father died, one night, I felt like I spoke with
him on the phone. At the time, I thought I
had been dreaming, but I remember it so well as
if it happened yesterday. My father was the only person
who called me viv in this dream that wasn't a dream.
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The phone rang and answered it and said hello, Hello, VIVI,
my father's voice said to me. But I knew that
it couldn't be him. He was dead. Who is this talking?
I said, viv you know who this is, don't you?
He said, who is this? I asked again. I couldn't
bear to say his name, as I missed him so much. Now, VIVI,
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you know who this is? He said again, Daddy? Can
that really be you? I finally called him daddy, And
when I said his name, I didn't hear another word,
as if I had acknowledged who it was, and that's
all I needed to hear. I don't recall hearing the
phone click, but there was silence. I believe, just as
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sure as I am standing here, that my father was
talking to me. You and I know that death and
loss are highly significant events, and these can affect our dreams.
We're so used to having these people in our life
that when we get to the dream world, we interact
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with them. However, from our past episodes on dreams, including
lucid dreaming, most dreams of our loved ones simply fade away.
We wake up and we don't remember our dreams. I believe,
as well as many experts, that those dreams that you
can still recall to this day are actual dream visitations,
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not unlike near death experiences that are as crystal clear
to the experiencer as if they just happened today. Tracy
lost her husband, Luke, from a pulmonary embolism while he
was undergoing treatment for lung cancer. Luke was in the
habit of phoning his wife often during his stay in
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the hospital. Sometimes he even rang her in the middle
of the night because the prospect of dying scared him.
His wife would reassure him that he was being well
looked after in the hospital and that he would be
home soon. Unfortunately, Luke lost his battle with the illness
and passed away suddenly. They buried him on the thirteenth
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of December. One of the possessions they placed in the
coffin with him was his cell phone. Around two weeks
after Luke died, Tracy says, I began to receive missed
calls in the middle of the night, apparently from Luke.
Something always made me wake up to see my phone
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screen flashing miss call Luke. I rang the number back
straight away, knowing full well that his phone was buried. Obviously,
the phone went direct to a message saying this phone
is switched off, Please try later. I was able to
show several witnesses at the time these mist calls, and
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they probably thought I was crazy. However, on Christmas Day,
the last missed call came in in the middle of
the night. Following this call, all the Luke mist call
data that it's automatically stored on my phone disappeared, despite
me having shown other people the record of it. Tiffany says,
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I got a dream call, perhaps the most lucid dream
I have ever had. It was one day after my
best friend from high school passed away from a car accident.
We were eighteen and had just graduated. My cell phone
rang I answered and heard Hey. I knew it was
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his voice. He said, tiff do you know who this is?
I said, yes, but it can't be you. You're dead.
How are you doing this? He said, I'm using your grandparents' landline.
That's exactly where I was living at the time. So
I jumped out of bed, opened my bedroom door, expecting
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to see the phone being used in some capacity, but
it sat there motionless on the receiver while I talked
to my dead best friend. I said to him, Chad,
you're scaring me, at which point he said to me,
don't be scared. I'm just using my energy to call
you through their phone because I need you to know
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that I am okay, I am not hurting, and you
need to keep an eye on Heather, who was our
mutual best friend, because she's not handling this very well
and you have to keep her from getting messed up
with that boy she's dating. Then he said, do you
have any questions for me? I said, I love you.
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He said, I love you too. You don't want to
ask me anything, So I asked, what's it like? He answered,
sometimes it's really cool and sometimes it's really warm, but
for the most part, it's perfect. Then we said I
love you one more time. And even after I woke up,
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the dream was so clear I swear it really happened.
Although it might have been a dream, I am convinced
that it was a visit from Chad. Junior says, my
dad's cell phone rang one week after he passed. He
was on my cell phone account and I hadn't gotten
around to canceling the line. I heard the phone ringing.
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I followed it into my mom's room, then to her dresser,
and on top of the dresser there were two small
drawers to keep small things like rings and jewelry, and
Mom had placed Dad's phone in there. I opened the
drawer with the phone that was ringing. I picked it
up and it was still lit. It was an old
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Motorola flip phone. And what's so weird is it showed
the number as the same phone I was about to answer.
When I picked it up. It hung up immediately. Nothing
else happened around my father's death except that one incident
a week after he died, but that was more than
enough for me to know he was still around. Katie says,
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after my favorite Aunt Pat died, my phone kept getting
FaceTime calls from her phone number, and every single time
the phone would ring, I would see a hummingbird. This
happened maybe five or six times, and I believe that's
the sign that Aunt Pat is still with me. Hadley says,
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ten hours after my mom passed, I received a text
from her cell phone. All it said was I love you,
proud of you. I immediately knew everything was good with her.
We'll be heading off into our next break, but when
we come back, we'll have some more stories telephone calls
from the deceased, and also some words from some of
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our favorite people, including thoughts on the afterlife from inventor
Thomas Edison. Will be right back. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking about phone calls with
the deceased. Let's go back in time. You know the
name Thomas Alva Edison. Born in eighteen forty seven, passed
in nineteen thirty one. He is probably the most famous
inventor in history, holding almost eleven hundred patents from the
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early inventions of the light bulb and the phonograph, the
motion picture camera, electric power. But did you know he
was working on a death machine. It sounds far fetched,
but it's a way to communicy with people here on
earth from loved ones in the spirit world. It was
not far fetched at the time. You see. Edison lived
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in a time when spirituality was a big thing. There
was this spiritualist movement, there was ghost photography featuring ectoplasm
ouiji boards, seances, floating tables, tapping, and knocks and bangs
coming from around the room. In the twenties, there may
have been eight million people interested in spiritualism, especially following
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the horrors of World War One and the great loss
of life. It's totally understandable that people were looking for
ways to communicate with their loved ones. Unfortunately, this also
gave rise to so many phony mediums trying to profit
off those grieving. Edison hypothesized that if we do indeed
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survive death, then the instrumentation which is designed to establish
contact with the dead must be compiled of extremely sensitive
components to help these subtle electrons which the dead are
made of, to manipulate or tap into the physical matter
of this world in order for communication to be established.
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Here's some words by Thomas Edison. The electron theory gives
us a reply which is wholly satisfactory. I have had
the matter roughly calculated, and have at hand the data
of the calculation. I am sure that a highly organized
entity consisting of millions of electrons, yet still remaining too
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small to be visible through any existing microscope, is possible. Now,
he said that in nineteen twenty when asked on his
views of life in death. A telephone requires electricity in
order for it to function. Therefore, if we do survive
death and manage to call the living by some means,
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then the electrons inside the telephone would need to be
manipulated to enable the telephone to ring in order for
someone to answer it. Although Thomas Edison never completed his
machine to communicate between life and death, and one hundred
years later no one has perfected it doesn't mean it's
not possible. In the past, we've heard from doctor Mark
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Pittstick on the board of the Soul Phone, also the
great Sonia Ronaldi, who captures voices and pictures of those
in the afterlife. It's just a matter of time, my
friend and I think they'll be more communication with the
other side. Remember, energy cannot be destroyed. Most of the
things in this universe are invisible to our eyes, but
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very real, and two or more forms of energy can
be living at the same place at the exact same
time as you sit, or stand or walk, listening to
shades of the afterlife right now now around you could
be cell phone signals, GPS signals, Wi Fi signals, music,
television signals, and so much more. Yes, it's one hundred
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percent possible that our loved ones exist in this same space,
invisible to our eyes, but very very real. Next two
more of my favorite people, which are Coast to Coast
AM's host George Nori and the late great author Rosemary
Ellen Guiley. Together in twenty twelve, they published a book
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called Talking to the Dead, which you may enjoy adding
to your library. In it, they talk about technology, strange
signals that come from the other world, Edison's telephone to
the spirit world, the birth of electronic voice, phenomena, spiricom
life in the afterlife, and much more. I want to
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read just a little bit talking about phone call from
the deceased. Imagine George Nori reading this to you now.
Nighttime radio is the perfect confessional. Every night as host
of Coast to Coast AM, I hear it all. Meetings
with the dead, out of body journeys, encounters with aliens
and entities, prophetic dreams, miracles, you name it, about the strange,
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we get it nightly. One of the most popular topics
that people cannot seem to hear enough about or talk
enough about, is contact with the dead. Almost everyone has
a story about a time when they felt visited or
contacted by someone who had passed over. Perhaps the experience
was comforting, perhaps it was unsettling. Either way, it was
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definitely unforgettable and maybe even life changing. On this night,
Rosemary Ellen Guilee has joined me in the studio to
talk especially about communication with the dead, and take calls
on open life lines. We know it's going to be
an active night. Some nights are just like that. You
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can feel a charge in the air, like the coast
to coast audience has linked up in a particular energized group. Mind.
My producer Tom dan Heiser can feel it too. Tom
screens the calls. Sometimes the phone lines are hot even
before we start taking the calls. After we talk for
a few minutes about Rosemary's latest research in spirit communications,
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we open the lines. They are already full with people
wanting to tell their stories about talking to the dead.
Beth East of Rockies I said to the first caller,
you're on the air, George. Beth sounded hesitant. Go ahead, Beth,
You're on the air. Yes, okay, thank you. I'm so
glad you're doing this subject and I want to tell
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you and Rosemary, what happened to me. There is a
brief pause, and we can almost hear Beth taking a
big breath to plunge ahead on what must be a
difficult topic. Beth continued, my dad died several years ago
in a car accident. It was a big shock to
everyone in our family, and her voice broke with emotion.
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I had a hard time dealing with it. She took
a moment to compose herself. But here's the weird part.
She says, about three weeks after he was gone, I
think he called me on the phone. Rosemary nods to
me in the studio. We've both heard these types of
stories many times. He called you on the phone. I
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said to Beth, tell us what happened. I was at
home by myself one day. It was in the afternoon.
The phone rang, and I thought it sounded strange. I mean,
it didn't have its usual ring. It sounded kind of distorted.
I thought maybe there was something going wrong with the
phone line. When I picked up the receiver and said hello,
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I could hear a lot of static. It reminded me
of how long distance calls used to sound, you know,
like they were coming from very far away with lots
of interference on the line. I didn't hear any voices
at first, and I said hello two or three times,
and then this voice called out, Beth, Beth, is that you?
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And it sounded just like my dad. I'm not making
this up. I'd know his voice anywhere. What did you
say back, I asked. I was so shocked I couldn't
say anything. He repeated, Beth, is that you? I said, Dad,
is that you? I was practically shouting. He just kept repeating, Beth, Beth, Beth.
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The static sound got worse, and his voice fainter and fainter,
and then it just stopped. I kept shouting into the
phone for him to come back, and there was nothing
but static, and the line just went dead, like someone
pulled the chord out of the wall. I hung up
the phone and then picked it up again, and the
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dial tone was normal. I was pretty shook up for
the rest of the day. In fact, I still am
if I think about it. I keep telling myself it
was a fluke, a wrong number, and it was a
man who sounded just like my dad, but he called
me by name, Rosemary. What do you make of this?
I said, Do you think Beth might have really talked
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to her father and was he calling from the other side.
It's quite possible, she answered. There is a phenomena literally
called phone calls from the dead or anomalous telephone contacts,
and it has been documented just about as long as
the telephone has been in existence. Under certain circumstances, the
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dead seemed to be able to access our phone technology
and make calls to the living. Many of them are
just like Beth described. They are full of static, but
the voice of the dead person is recognizable. Most phone
calls from the dead are very short, less than a minute,
although a few longer ones have been documented, and I
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can think of one from parapsychology literature that was reported
to last about thirty minutes. There are so many stories
in this book that's called Talking to the Dead by
George Nori and Rosemary Ellen Guiy. Do you find that
these stories help you, let you see what's possible, perhaps
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make you want to answer an unknown phone call. You
too may have a story, and I welcome your stories.
You don't need to be famous, you don't need to
have a book published, just you being a real human
being with your experiences, your signs. Perhaps you've received some
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communication through a text or a phone call. Perhaps you've
had something interesting happen with electricity or some other sign
from your loved one. If you have a story, I'd
love to hear it, and I'd love to share it
with fellow listeners. We have a Facebook group. If you
go to my website, we Don't Die dot com, just
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click on Facebook group. You can share your experience there. Also,
while you're there, don't forget to sign up for our
free Sunday gathering inspirational service with medium demonstration included. But
if you feel more comfortable emailing me Easy to remember
Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. I hope you never
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forget that there's more to life than meets the eye,
and there's more to you than you know. Here's some
words by Albert Einstein. When something vibrates, the electrons of
the entire universe resonate with it. Everything is connected. The
greatest tragedy of human existence is the illusion of separateness.
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Our separation from each other is an optical illusion. If
you're an afterlife warrior, you can take my challenge. Listen
to all episodes of Shades of the Afterlife and see
if that changes your view a bit about life, death,
the afterlife, and who you really are a divine soul
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having a human experience. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so
much for listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the
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