May 16, 2025 • 50 mins
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Discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain.
For over twenty five years, I've been on a journey
to prove the existence of life after death.
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On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical doubt.
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And so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.
Have you ever heard someone say that something is bittersweet,
meaning that it's sad but can also be happy. I
woke up this morning feeling very happy and very tired,
and I have some really good news to share. And
it's also the fifteenth anniversary of my dad's passing, so inside,
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of course, there's all kinds of memories that come up
with an anniversary like that. But then I think of
the chain of events that brought me here with you today,
and we couldn't be here without my dad passing exactly
the way he did. Me hitting rock bottom to discover
the world of grief and why people do some crazy
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things while grieving and relationships come apart, followed by my
third to discover as much information about the afterlife? Is
it real? How do we communicate? And certainly I learned
a bunch before my dad passed, and then after he died,
I wanted to know even more, which eventually led me
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to writing my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery
of life after death, followed by my podcast which still
exists on YouTube called We Don't Die, where I still
interview people one on one. And then as magic happened,
that wonderful call from producer Tom from Coast to Coast
am asking if I would be the host of Shades
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of the Afterlife. So many years later, my heart is
filled with love and none of that could have happened
without Dad going just the way he did and when
he did fifteen years ago. So Dad, this one's for you,
and also my friends. What may seem like the worst
pain and grief you could ever imagine right now, you
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never know a few years in the future how your
words and your journey might be the thing that someone
else needs to hear, or it could lead you to
a place you couldn't even dream of. Now, Why did
I wake up so tired and yet so happy? I
have had a secret project going on the past few months.
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You've heard probably my episodes with Scott Milligan and mister Eric,
who speaks through Scott in the Trance State. If you haven't,
the words are spectacular. Over the past five years, we've
held these question and answer sessions about life, death and
the afterlife, and I've compiled the top questions that have
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been asked of our friend in the afterlife. I've had
them transcribed, and secretly I've been putting them all together
into a book. The news is when I woke up
this morning, the book was on Amazon ready for purchase.
Today is also the anniversary of Scott when he first
began sitting as a medium twenty eight years ago. Is
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it a coincidence that Amazon had it ready the same
day as his anniversary. I don't know, but it sure
is reason for celebration. So I was up at three
in the morning, got the news from Amazon, shared it
with Scott. I'm sharing it with the world. The book
is called Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife
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through the Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. Today, on
our show, we're going to celebrate. I want to read
some from the book, and I want to play for
you some words from Eric that only a few other
people have heard, a question that I asked him this
past week in one of our classes. So sit back, relax,
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and let me read a little to you. First, I'd
like to read Scott Milligan's introduction on May second, nineteen
ninety seven. My journey as a physical medium began when
I was only a teenager. I sat with strangers once
a week in John Austin's home circle, and the seed
began to grow within me. On that very first sitting,
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the question was asked, is anyone there? Then mighty bangs
sounded on the wall that made me jump on the
eleventh sitting a voice manifested in the air, separate from anyone,
and the voice called out from the dark. After that,
nothing for two and a half years. But within those years,
every night I sat in the home circles of others,
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including Colin Fry, Stuart Alexander, David Thompson, and Joan Avison.
These four people had the gift of physical mediumship. They
sat and through their senses, unbelievable things occurred. I didn't
realize that I was developing within those home circles as
I was being used in service of others. Two and
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a half year years later, the mist in the air
seemed to intensify again, this feeling, this presence started to build.
The invisible voices in my home circle started to whisper. Then,
from deep within me, a voice started to say the
word yes. I couldn't tell you where it came from,
but it felt as it came from my stomach. Over time,
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this word yes kept repeating in my mind, feeling like
it was getting bigger and bigger. I couldn't move away
from it, so I thought, well, I'm just going to
say it. When I spoke, Instead of the word yes
coming out, it sounded like yesh. Every time I wanted
to say yes, it came out yes, and I couldn't
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control it. Suddenly the voice broke again and said yes,
So now we come to speak to our brothers and
sisters of the joining of our world and yours. That
voice that seemed to have come from me started to
move me from believing to knowing that the these unseen
people were a part of my life. Very rapidly. In
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over the next few sittings, the voice started to get
stronger and stronger. That was the beginning of my relationship
with my workers, my friends morning Star, Daniel and Eric,
who speak through me while I am in the trance state.
Morning Star was the first to come and spoke the words,
so now we come to speak to our brothers and
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sisters of the joining of our World's morning Star, while
he was on Earth, was known as Dull Knife, and
he was a great chief of the Cheyenne people in America.
He would come frequently in the early days to win
the reason of the circle. Daniel is my younger friend
who calls everyone ducks or duckies. Daniel brings joy and
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humor to the circle, which builds the necessary power for
phenomena to occur. Mister Eric Robert Johnston is a Victorian
man and his education is beyond my comprehension. He communicates
regularly through me and our trance demonstrations. Eric never shies
away from a question and always answers with dignity and respect.
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Eric reminds us that he is not a guide, he
is a friend. He often reminds me of the importance
of being of service, not having a big ego. One time,
when I became quite big headed, Eric said to me,
if you desire to be a star, my boy, you will,
But all stars fade and turn to dust. Those who
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contribute to humanity will live forever in the hearts and
minds of your tomorrows. Eric's philosophy is profound and thought provoking,
and he never hesitates in his speech. When I talk,
I stutter a little with a few ums and things
like that. There's none of that in the spirit world,
which shows their intelligence. When a medium is under the
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influence of the spirit, their words seem to flow like
a river. At one of the trance question and answer sessions,
we had a high ranking member of the police force attend.
While while I was entranced, this very educated man was
speaking to Eric about physics, and Eric was answering his
questions easily. I am dyslexic and was found to be
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dyslexic at the late age of eleven. They said, I
had a reading age of about five years old. I'm
not very educated and failed all my GCSE exams, only
getting c's and d's. You will witness Eric's high level
of education on the following pages. Also, Eric is very clever.
He will answer questions that someone has not verbalized and
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only thought about. Eric and my other friends remind me
that those in the spirit world are but a foot away.
Although he has asked many questions, Eric often says there
are no answers, there are only questions that lead to
greater questions. He is a humble friend and shares that
the words he speaks are not only his words, but
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they are the voice of many. He refers to me
as the one we love what trancey is and what
the experience feels like. I simply close my eyes and
just sit there, usually listening to three songs, not trying
to pay attention to my busy mind. During those songs,
I feel quite heavy, as if I'm going to sleep.
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My spirit friends gently blend their energy with mine to
use my vocal chords to speak through me. The voice
may change, It may sound older or younger. It may
sound like someone who lived long ago. My friends who
work with me once lived earthly lives that can be proven.
This is true trance mediumship, which people confuse with channeling.
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Channeling cannot be proven. Many believe they are channeling angels,
ascended masters, and guides, but channeling comes from the soul.
Channeling can bring some powerful words of philosophy, but trance
involves a discarnate mind of someone who once walked this earth.
Life changed for us all in March twenty twenty. I
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had been trayed traveling, teaching and demonstrating trance and physical mediumship,
but that was all put on pause when the COVID
nineteen pandemic impacted the planet. My good friend Sandra Champlain
encouraged me to begin teaching and demonstrating trance mediumship online.
As we were all in lockdown and people were interested,
we began. I am grateful that people who had no
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prior knowledge of physical and trance mediumship were interested in
developing their medium abilities. Many just wanted to quiet their
busy minds to feel the love from their family and
friends who have passed away. Many now have discovered the
power of home circles and are inviting their spirit friends
into their homes weekly. Although the world has opened and
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I am traveling again, we still have our Zoom online classes.
In addition, over the years, we have held many online
events called in the Arms of Eternity, where people from
all over the world join us on Zoom. We begin
by sending healing to all of those in need. Gentle
music plays in the background as I lead the group
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into this healing. At some point, that sleepy feeling comes
over me. My voice becomes quiet, and I drift into
the trance state. I am told by Sandra that usually
after twenty minutes, the voice of Eric speaks through me
and delivers words of philosophy for all. Then members of
our group are invited to ask Eric questions or to
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have him speak on topics regarding life, death, or the afterlife.
At the time of this book publication, we have well
over two hundred hours of these sittings. Conversations with Eric
was compiled from transcripts of actual sittings, containing some of
Eric's most powerful words on the most requested subjects. Eric's
words are profound, enlightening, and comforting. It is my sincere
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wish that mister Eric Robert Johnston's words and philosophy find
their way into the hearts and minds of many. Scott
Milligan more words.
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From the book, and we'll hear from the actual Eric
when we get back. You're listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a m
paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain, and we're celebrating the release of the
new book Conversations with Eric Life, Death, and the Afterlife
through the closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. I'm not
only the publisher. I wrote the forward, so I'll read
that to you now and you'll get a little more
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understanding of why this is so important to me. I
would have never imagined spending over two hundred hours of
my life talking to an old dead man. Not just
any dead man, but the wisest, most compassionate, loving and
non judgmental gentleman named mister Eric Robert Johnston, who lived
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in the Victorian era in England and passed away near
the end of the eighteen hundreds. You see, I was
a skeptic about the afterlife, mediums and all talk of
other worldly people, places, or beings. I wasn't just skeptical.
I had a big ego and spoke very negatively of
people interested in spirituality or the metaphysical.
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So what happened? I developed a huge fear of dying
that led me on a quest to determine for myself
if there was any evidence of the afterlife. I'm pleased
to say there is, and there is a lot of it.
I have dedicated well over twenty five years of my
life to studying the various reasons to believe, authored and
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international best selling book titled We Don't Die, a skeptics
Discovery of Life after Death, and I host two podcasts,
We Don't Die and Shades of the Afterlife, which together
encompass well over seven hundred hours of episodes featuring conversations
with experts and everyday folks on the many reasons to
believe that we survive physical death. There are numerous reasons
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to believe in the afterlife. Some of my favorites include
vertical near death experiences, induced after death, communication therapy, deathbed
visitations and the world of audio and visual trans communication. However,
the one that brings me the most comfort are our
conversations with Eric. In November twenty sixteen, during my never
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ending search for afterlife evidence, I was introduced to a
young man named Scott Milligan. I had heard about physical mediumship,
a rare form of communication where voices of discarnate spirits
could be heard in the darkness of a seance room.
These voices were said to be those of our deceased
loved ones and others spirit helpers, doing their best to
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prove that our consciousness continues after physical death through the
phenomena they deliver. Of course, this sounded too good to
be true, but there is only one way to find out.
So I took a three thousand mile journey from my
home in the United States to a small town in
southeastern England. I have always been so passionate about investigating
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the afterlife, knowing firsthand the difference it would make to
others who fear death or have experienced deep grief after
the passing of a loved one. The five day retreat
opened to my eyes and heart in a way nothing
else could. I experienced three kinds of mediumship, evidential, physical
and trance. My heart was filled with love seeing evidential
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mediums giving platform demonstrations, delivering words from loved ones in
the spirit world. We received training and experienced that we
are all mediums and how the spirit world communicates through
our thoughts and feelings ways we previously thought was just
our imagination. I will save my experience with physical mediumship
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for Scott's next book, but what I can tell you
is that it brought the joy of Christmas back to me.
Voices do communicate in the darkness. Phenomena occurred that was
so joyful, and all who witnessed it were left in
a state of awe and filled with love for humanity
and the unseen world. Toward the end of the retreat,
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I had my first experience of trance mediumship. This young
man named Scott Milligan sat in front of the group
and closed his eyes. Music was played that seemed to
lull him into a different state of consciousness. After some time,
a much different voice spoke from Scott's mouth. This was
the voice of Eric. Eric speaks in a way that
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we do not speak today, filled with pleasantries and proper etiquette.
He has a deep voice and used some vocabulary that
was used long ago. During Scott's trance demonstration, Eric shared
words of philosophy about life, death, and the reality of
the afterlife. I hung onto every word and was overjoyed
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at what I was witnessing. Eric asked the audience if
we had any questions. With a mix of curiosity and uncertainty,
I introduced myself to Eric. Eric always asks I trust
you or well. I told him I was well. Indeed,
the question I had was about suffering. My dad passed
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away from cancer and suffered terribly at the end. I
wanted to know why we human beings must endure pain
and suffering and if it served any purpose. Eric's answer
was lengthy, but here are some words that comforted me.
In his response, Well, I have to say to you
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it does help to enrich the soul's experience because you
won't experience it in our world. Suffering is a byproduct
of being alive. Your body is fragile and filled with senses.
The body is a miracle. Once you are born, it
starts to kill itself, but it kills itself so you
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can renew. In our world, if you are to cut
into the skin, it causes such pain, but The body
then learns how to cope with the cut, and it
starts to bring what has been separated back together. But
I have to say to you that when you are
alive and experience pain for yourself, it is terribly distressing.
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The only hope I can give you is that it
lasts only for a short period of time, and when
you come to our side of life, the physical pain
goes back to the earth. You arrive in the state
of familiarity, where everything is familiar to you, and you
receive the proper education, are reunited with your love ones,
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and then you can move into the greater world of spirit.
We hear the cry of those who are left behind,
and no matter how loudly we shout, we are still
with you. Sadly, your earthly ears do not hear us,
so we must come to you in dreams. But then
when you are awake and tears stream down your face,
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you say, oh, it was only a dream, and we
must work incredibly hard to convince you to allow you
to live again. We draw close to give you a
healing bomb to wipe away those tears, and embrace you
and tell you that it will be okay. In your world.
People leave you and our world people join you, and
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so they will leave you for a moment in your
world physically. But when it is your time, when our
world surrounds you, we get excited that you are arriving.
A sense of peace will wash over you, a sense
of calm because you, your soul knows the natural progression
to our world. So, in answer to your question, pain
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is a byproduct of being alive, but you will not
experience it in our world. Those words made such a
difference for me, and in another question, I learned that
if the body is suffering, the soul can move to
the unseen world even before the body dies. None of
us wish to suffer or want our loved ones to
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experience pain. The next four years, I spent as much
time as I could with Scott and his spirit team.
I made regular trips to London, taking a taxi an
hour and a half each way, just to discover trance
and have an opportunity to sit with Scott, my soul
and the spirit world. I am pleased to know that
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we all have our own spirit teams, and that Eric
and Scott's other friends are companions to us all, and
that love is always available to us from the invisible
world around us. Quieting the mind is the way to
communicate with our soul, our loved ones, and those invisible
that accompany us in our lives. Scott and I quickly
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became good friends, and in twenty twenty we began offering
Trance and the Altered States classes on Zoom and weekly
sessions called in the Arms of Eternity, sending much needed
healing to the people of the world, followed by a
demonstration of trance. I have been the host and facilitator
of these online sessions. Scott begins by gently leading us
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into healing, listening to soft music, and then becomes quiet,
inviting his friends to join him. All sessions are experimental
and we never know what is going to happen. However,
what typically happens is Eric speaks through Scott, providing philosophy
on a topic that is important to him. Then there's
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always an opportunity for our Zoom audience to ask questions
or have Eric speak on a topic of their choosing.
Audience members type their questions in the question and answer
box on Zoom, and I am the only person who
can see those questions. From time to time, Eric surprises
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me and reads the questions before I am able to
voice them. I've often wondered if he can see through
my eyes, but he assures me that he knows the
questions in people's hearts. Over the past few years, we
have had hundreds of hours of words from mister Eric.
He says that although his voice is the voice we hear,
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he is the voice of many who work with him,
doing their very best to comfort and empower those of
us here on earth. Within these pages you will discover
the most frequently asked questions about topics important to us.
All these questions have been answered and transcribed from our sessions.
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They have been and edited only slightly for correct punctuation
and for ease of reading, but the passionate words are
from our friend Eric. One final note. Out of the
twenty five plus years I have been investigating the afterlife,
the best and most comforting evidence I know and look
forward to is our conversations with Eric. I trust you
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will enjoy his words and invite you to join us
sometime for our in the arms of eternity and discover
Eric's answers to your most important questions. I hope you
like my introduction. The book is broken down into fifty
two different topics, things like reunions with our children and pets,
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the halls of learning, Who is Eric? Automatic writing? How
does spiritual healing work? Do our loved ones? Miss us?
The holidays and grief? Dreaming? Our purpose in life? What
does your world look like? How can we connect with
our loved ones forgiveness, romance, near death experiences? And many more.
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When we get back from our break, you're going to
meet Eric and here a very fascinating conversation I just
had with him this past week. Let's go to the
break and we'll be right back with a conversation with Eric.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
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to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and talking
about our new book Conversations with Eric. What if you
could talk to somebody in the unseen world who lives
in the afterlife? What would you ask them? And in
this segment, I want you to hear from Eric himself.
Get to know the man that I speak with week
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after week. The recordings in the book are all from
our Friday sessions called in the arms of eternity. However,
every month with Scott Milligan, we have a class called
Trance and the Altered States. Some people who join us
are interested in becoming trance mediums. Some just want to
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feel the love from the spirit world or their loved ones,
or connect to their guides. Becoming this kind of a
medium requires a lot of what's called sitting in the
power and sitting to blend with the unseen world. We
meet for four sessions a month, and on the last
session Scott always provides for our class a private trance
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demonstration with questions and answers. This past week, mister Eric
came to address the group and no one had a question,
so I asked a question that I hope will make
you smile. Let me introduce you to our friend in spirit,
mister Eric Robert Johnston.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Sandra, my dear, I trusted you our will. I am
very well.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Thank you Eric.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That is always pleasing to him my fin Now, as
time moves ever far away, what can I do to
serve you all?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I have a topic, Eric, If there's no questions.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
If it is so, let it be pleased.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Okay, it's on the topic of Heaven on Earth. I
was looking around my garden, seeing the beautiful birds, the flowers,
and is as if someone, perhaps in your world, maybe children,
took blank pieces of paper with all kinds of colors
and created this most beautiful tapestry of plants and birds
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and animals. And then I have to believe that our
world is a replica of yours. Could you just talk
a bit about heaven on earth? No, of course, my friend,
what a wonderful way of expressing how a child can
create such beauty, and quite rightly so. But then you
say that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Our world is a replica of this But may I
say it is a continuation of this world. You all
have seen how mother Earth can provide substance and beauty.
For if you could imagine, my friends, before you learnt
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to migrate to other countries, what it must have been
like to know the land you were born, to know
the flowers, to know what berries to eat, what birds
to admire, what beast to fee from. But then you
move to other contebries, and it felt so different. Their
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behaviors were foreign to you, including the earth, land, the nature.
And therefore you try to recreate in that foreign land
that seems familiar, And then it starts to change from
what it was to where it is now. Your world
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is ever changing, but our world also must change with it.
For the vibration in which you enter is a state
of familiarity. It is familiar to you, so you come
a custom from changing your thoughts from one vibration to
the next. We pray for all of you to find
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heaven in your world, which is peace. But if heaven
exists in your world, so must hell, for it has
to have night and day. If you don't have hell,
you won't know what heaven is and which one is
more pleasing. Fire you see the beauty because, my friend,
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you have seen the world in a different way. You
have lived a fast paced life where you've had to
cater for others needs when they are enjoying themselves. You
are stressed because you have target, you have employment, and now,
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my friends, you now see the world to be different.
Or you have earned your stripes and you have moved
from your residence to a different place where nature has
more opportunity. The natural law of attraction is in operation
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all and around you. You attract those of like minds,
But equally in your world you can attract people who
see you to be awfully different, and therefore they may
wish to harm you. This is why your world knows both.
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In our world, the natural law of attraction is in operation,
and therefore you will not have interaction with any individual
or animal that will do you harm or you them harm.
If you can imagine, if your mind would love it.
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You say that you see beauty in heaven in your world,
and quite rightly sow, my friends, but it will not
prepare you efficiently to what the beauty of our world
has to offer. If you truly saw what we know,
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you'll find it difficult to exist within your reality. You have,
my friends, dreams that are so peaceful when you choose
to extend those dreams, even though if the world is
calling you back when you wake, my friend, then you
call it a dream as it has been expressed. But
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you then wish the day away to the time that
you can rest again and get lost within your imagination.
But all world is beyond anything your mind can create.
The color not of your spectrum, sound not of your frequency.
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And time, my friend, where your body will not be exhausted.
There is no time for you to sleep in actuality,
my friends, but for us to commune with you. We
must revert back to that photo press. It aids us
to lower our vibration back to your earth. But my friends,
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think of all the species that does not exist in
your world. There is no photograph, no painting that will
truly do justice, and it doesn't show their personality. Maybe
it is because, my friends, but that species that functioned
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as a consciousness moved into the reality that this world
has served its papers woe. Mankind eventually realized that it
is time that it has served its purpose and no
longer live within your world. What will come of the residents,
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the statues, the stones that mankind has made. Will it
become an irritant? Or has the earth found a way?
Like a stream that's disrupted can always find its flow again.
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This world in which you live, a former world in
which I used to know, is part of the soul's progression,
so it becomes vers. Your world has to offer a
sense of peace, but it also has to give you
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the opportunity of detachment that you can leave it behind.
Your world will always be the most densest form of
creation because thought can be light and heavy, and your
world is increasingly heavy. Because modern technology thribes on negativity.
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Those who claim to sell the rag, speak through the wireless,
or show themselves on the devil's bobs, finds it more
invigorating to speak of negativity, which then puts one in
the hearts of those who observe or listen. Then therefore
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a vibration goes out again and feeds the negative beast.
So my friends find heaven. Of course, is our dear friend,
Sadra said, by the colors of the birds, the colors
of the leaves. But I wonder if my friends, that
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those who live in the local are surroundings sees the
same beauty as the one that's just inquired. Do the
animals feel safe or have they been so fickle to
be persuaded by the hand that feeds them and in
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return does the ray of dance by flying back and
forth and running back and wark. If all people in
your world treated all life, no matter what form it
has taken, with us no respect, then it will be
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a glimpse, only a glimpse. My fan of the world
that'll wait.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Show we'll hear more words from mister Eric on the
other side of the break. But if you're wondering, the
rag is the newspaper, the wireless is the radio, and
the devil's box is what he calls our televisions. Yes,
I do seem to spoil the birds and the squirrels
and the critters these days. But he's right. I lived
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a very fast paced life, working eighty hours a week
for many years until COVID hit and I live a
different kind of life in nature right now, and I
appreciate it, I really do. So let's go to the
break and we'll be right back with more of mister Eric.
You're listening to Shades.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast,
a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(38:28):
I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking with mister Eric, Robert Johnston,
who lived back in the eighteen hundreds. He's wise, he's wonderful.
He's the subject of our new book, Conversations with Eric.
I had asked him about heaven on Earth and all
the beautiful birds and landscapes and if they are created
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by his world. He was mentioning that if we treat
each other with kindness like I show the birds, it
would be a whole different kind of Earth. He's got
more to say on this topic, So let's continue.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
If you allow me to extend further with this, is
that permitted?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Please?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
In your world you have animals for human consumption. You
have plants to grow to aid wellness only for a
short period of time. These things of what I speak
of is not respected. It is bred for consumption and
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monetary gain. An animal that has been bred for human consumption,
where there is no love there will not interact with
you when you come to the spirit world. They will
have their own vibration and they will not see or
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experience people like yourself, for it will serve no purpose.
But if the animal was given love and respect, even
though it may have been euphanized, it will have interaction.
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But it will not be confined within a cave separated
by barriers. It will be allowed to interact. But if
the observer can only see it in a cage, that
is how it will be presented. But then we will
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work and the cage will then fade away to walk
in the natural habitat and see the animal be what
it was meant to be. Equally, with this thought, my friends,
it extends to people in your world, people who have
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had impact in your world in a negative capacity will
still be within our world, but the vibration will be
so different you will not see or interact with each other.
Like expressions that I have shared with you previously, that
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when you look to the Moon, you see a planet
of dust because you are born to this vibration. This
is the vibration that you know. But if someone was
conceived and then born in the vibration of the Moon,
its habitat would not be a planet of dust. It'd
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be full of activity. But it will look to the
Earth and see a planet of dust. It is the
vibration that it was born and nourished in. My friends,
So when they come to our side of life, they
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will be in a vibration, even though it will be
real to them. They will not see you, and you
will not see them. Because it serves no purpose to
have grievance, even though that one may seek forgiveness, it
is no purpose in the state of minerality. Now, I
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did not come here to say that I am God,
and therefore I cannot question God. But certain individuals that
has caused mass impact. These individuals do not exist anymore
within our reality. We see Eric, my friend, for how
is that possible? You have just said, everythinking this world
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comes to yours. The purpose of life is to destroy self.
The imperfections of sealth the individuals that we speak of
that cause mass exodus and mass trauma. These individuals, when
they come to our side of life, are instantly absorbed
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into consciousness. They do not then meet with their family,
They do not have the experiences of learning through the
layers of our world. They just simply are exhausted, and
therefore they do not exist. There are some who create
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the own vibration where my friends is increasingly difficult, but
not impossible for us to reach them. But they're so blindsighted,
deep within their traditions, and therefore, my friends, we sometimes
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require strength from you, who have still knowledge of these
conditions of hatred, love and compassion, of volatility, and therefore
within the power that we are trying to dissolve the
darkness around them. You can assist us, but that is
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merely preparing you for the great work when you come
to our side of life. If you are skilled in
such a capacity of communicating, like I am doing now,
then you'll be used. If it is your wish train
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within the wholes of learning, to be a voice, but
a voice that expresses itself through multiple channels of thought,
be it in dream awake, inspiration and meditation, entrancement, or
in the imagination of young minds. But my friends, your
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world did not copy our world. We copied yours. If
it is your will, my friends, that we must now
come to a place where questions may arise within your minds.
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But the questions that you think of must lead you
to a greater question. I cannot tell you how your
life will unfold, for it is your choice. The certainty
that I give you is that you will come to
our reality. We will meet, and then you will see
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those who have inspired you. You'll see your family, animals.
If you're with attachments to plants and other trinkets of familiaralities,
you'll be taken to residents. This is very pleasing fire.
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You will come to the summer land, and you'll rest
the rest knowing that the world that was so real
to you has served its benign papers. Your world is
the short part of the journey. Your whole, your breath
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when you see the beauty of our reality, For what
you breathe in your world is no different to accept
in love. Within our reality, Love will move through you
all and you will continue to seek out knowledge, and
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you'll continue to thrive in a world that knows no war.
Good day to you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Thank you Eric. And I think you can probably see
why I love Eric so much. I have literally spent
about two hundred hours I think more than that really
doing these questions and answers. And if you could live
in my shoes just for a little while while and
hear these profound answers. He never misses a beat. He's
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always kind, always compassionate. It's really something spectacular to behold. Now, Scott,
his mind has checked out, but it looks like him
doing the talking, and of course it's Eric speaking through him.
We all have inspirers working with us. They come through
our mind, often in our own voice. You might get
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an idea out of nowhere. It may be our soul,
it may be them. But we have loved ones and
helpers on the other side, working with each and every
one of us. We do. This new book is called
Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife through the
Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. On my website, we
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Don't Die dot com. If you want to watch some
of the past replays, you can watch them for free.
Just go to the store page and scroll to the bottom.
There's tons of in the arms of Eternity that are
there for you to enjoy. To behold a trance demonstration
in person or a physical medium seance with this phenomena
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happening is incredible. Scott and friends, they'll be traveling through
the United States and Europe and you can see what's
coming up, including our online events. Just go to the
Scott page at Weedon'tdie dot com. My friend, there is
more to life than meets THEI, and more to you
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than you know. Just realize, down to our tiniest particle,
all we are is invisible, vibrating energy. It's an illusion
and a very good one of us being alive and real.
And I know there's pain and suffering, but there's a
much bigger picture. You are important, you are loved. Life
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is an education for the soul. You're here to dream,
to explore, to make mistakes, to love, to forgive. So
give yourself a big hug. You're just where you need
to be on the journey. You never know what's right
around the corner for you. Good things. I hope, don't forget.
Come visit me at We Don't die dot com. Come
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to a free Sunday gathering. Come a few minutes early
and say hello to me. I would love that our
time together for today is over. I hope you enjoyed it.
I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to
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Discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain.
For over twenty five years, I've been on a journey
to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
And so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.
Have you ever heard someone say that something is bittersweet,
meaning that it's sad but can also be happy. I
woke up this morning feeling very happy and very tired,
and I have some really good news to share. And
it's also the fifteenth anniversary of my dad's passing, so inside,
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of course, there's all kinds of memories that come up
with an anniversary like that. But then I think of
the chain of events that brought me here with you today,
and we couldn't be here without my dad passing exactly
the way he did. Me hitting rock bottom to discover
the world of grief and why people do some crazy
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things while grieving and relationships come apart, followed by my
third to discover as much information about the afterlife? Is
it real? How do we communicate? And certainly I learned
a bunch before my dad passed, and then after he died,
I wanted to know even more, which eventually led me
(02:16):
to writing my book We Don't Die, a skeptics discovery
of life after death, followed by my podcast which still
exists on YouTube called We Don't Die, where I still
interview people one on one. And then as magic happened,
that wonderful call from producer Tom from Coast to Coast
am asking if I would be the host of Shades
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of the Afterlife. So many years later, my heart is
filled with love and none of that could have happened
without Dad going just the way he did and when
he did fifteen years ago. So Dad, this one's for you,
and also my friends. What may seem like the worst
pain and grief you could ever imagine right now, you
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never know a few years in the future how your
words and your journey might be the thing that someone
else needs to hear, or it could lead you to
a place you couldn't even dream of. Now, Why did
I wake up so tired and yet so happy? I
have had a secret project going on the past few months.
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You've heard probably my episodes with Scott Milligan and mister Eric,
who speaks through Scott in the Trance State. If you haven't,
the words are spectacular. Over the past five years, we've
held these question and answer sessions about life, death and
the afterlife, and I've compiled the top questions that have
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been asked of our friend in the afterlife. I've had
them transcribed, and secretly I've been putting them all together
into a book. The news is when I woke up
this morning, the book was on Amazon ready for purchase.
Today is also the anniversary of Scott when he first
began sitting as a medium twenty eight years ago. Is
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it a coincidence that Amazon had it ready the same
day as his anniversary. I don't know, but it sure
is reason for celebration. So I was up at three
in the morning, got the news from Amazon, shared it
with Scott. I'm sharing it with the world. The book
is called Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife
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through the Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. Today, on
our show, we're going to celebrate. I want to read
some from the book, and I want to play for
you some words from Eric that only a few other
people have heard, a question that I asked him this
past week in one of our classes. So sit back, relax,
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and let me read a little to you. First, I'd
like to read Scott Milligan's introduction on May second, nineteen
ninety seven. My journey as a physical medium began when
I was only a teenager. I sat with strangers once
a week in John Austin's home circle, and the seed
began to grow within me. On that very first sitting,
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the question was asked, is anyone there? Then mighty bangs
sounded on the wall that made me jump on the
eleventh sitting a voice manifested in the air, separate from anyone,
and the voice called out from the dark. After that,
nothing for two and a half years. But within those years,
every night I sat in the home circles of others,
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including Colin Fry, Stuart Alexander, David Thompson, and Joan Avison.
These four people had the gift of physical mediumship. They
sat and through their senses, unbelievable things occurred. I didn't
realize that I was developing within those home circles as
I was being used in service of others. Two and
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a half year years later, the mist in the air
seemed to intensify again, this feeling, this presence started to build.
The invisible voices in my home circle started to whisper. Then,
from deep within me, a voice started to say the
word yes. I couldn't tell you where it came from,
but it felt as it came from my stomach. Over time,
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this word yes kept repeating in my mind, feeling like
it was getting bigger and bigger. I couldn't move away
from it, so I thought, well, I'm just going to
say it. When I spoke, Instead of the word yes
coming out, it sounded like yesh. Every time I wanted
to say yes, it came out yes, and I couldn't
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control it. Suddenly the voice broke again and said yes,
So now we come to speak to our brothers and
sisters of the joining of our world and yours. That
voice that seemed to have come from me started to
move me from believing to knowing that the these unseen
people were a part of my life. Very rapidly. In
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over the next few sittings, the voice started to get
stronger and stronger. That was the beginning of my relationship
with my workers, my friends morning Star, Daniel and Eric,
who speak through me while I am in the trance state.
Morning Star was the first to come and spoke the words,
so now we come to speak to our brothers and
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sisters of the joining of our World's morning Star, while
he was on Earth, was known as Dull Knife, and
he was a great chief of the Cheyenne people in America.
He would come frequently in the early days to win
the reason of the circle. Daniel is my younger friend
who calls everyone ducks or duckies. Daniel brings joy and
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humor to the circle, which builds the necessary power for
phenomena to occur. Mister Eric Robert Johnston is a Victorian
man and his education is beyond my comprehension. He communicates
regularly through me and our trance demonstrations. Eric never shies
away from a question and always answers with dignity and respect.
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Eric reminds us that he is not a guide, he
is a friend. He often reminds me of the importance
of being of service, not having a big ego. One time,
when I became quite big headed, Eric said to me,
if you desire to be a star, my boy, you will,
But all stars fade and turn to dust. Those who
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contribute to humanity will live forever in the hearts and
minds of your tomorrows. Eric's philosophy is profound and thought provoking,
and he never hesitates in his speech. When I talk,
I stutter a little with a few ums and things
like that. There's none of that in the spirit world,
which shows their intelligence. When a medium is under the
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influence of the spirit, their words seem to flow like
a river. At one of the trance question and answer sessions,
we had a high ranking member of the police force attend.
While while I was entranced, this very educated man was
speaking to Eric about physics, and Eric was answering his
questions easily. I am dyslexic and was found to be
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dyslexic at the late age of eleven. They said, I
had a reading age of about five years old. I'm
not very educated and failed all my GCSE exams, only
getting c's and d's. You will witness Eric's high level
of education on the following pages. Also, Eric is very clever.
He will answer questions that someone has not verbalized and
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only thought about. Eric and my other friends remind me
that those in the spirit world are but a foot away.
Although he has asked many questions, Eric often says there
are no answers, there are only questions that lead to
greater questions. He is a humble friend and shares that
the words he speaks are not only his words, but
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they are the voice of many. He refers to me
as the one we love what trancey is and what
the experience feels like. I simply close my eyes and
just sit there, usually listening to three songs, not trying
to pay attention to my busy mind. During those songs,
I feel quite heavy, as if I'm going to sleep.
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My spirit friends gently blend their energy with mine to
use my vocal chords to speak through me. The voice
may change, It may sound older or younger. It may
sound like someone who lived long ago. My friends who
work with me once lived earthly lives that can be proven.
This is true trance mediumship, which people confuse with channeling.
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Channeling cannot be proven. Many believe they are channeling angels,
ascended masters, and guides, but channeling comes from the soul.
Channeling can bring some powerful words of philosophy, but trance
involves a discarnate mind of someone who once walked this earth.
Life changed for us all in March twenty twenty. I
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had been trayed traveling, teaching and demonstrating trance and physical mediumship,
but that was all put on pause when the COVID
nineteen pandemic impacted the planet. My good friend Sandra Champlain
encouraged me to begin teaching and demonstrating trance mediumship online.
As we were all in lockdown and people were interested,
we began. I am grateful that people who had no
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prior knowledge of physical and trance mediumship were interested in
developing their medium abilities. Many just wanted to quiet their
busy minds to feel the love from their family and
friends who have passed away. Many now have discovered the
power of home circles and are inviting their spirit friends
into their homes weekly. Although the world has opened and
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I am traveling again, we still have our Zoom online classes.
In addition, over the years, we have held many online
events called in the Arms of Eternity, where people from
all over the world join us on Zoom. We begin
by sending healing to all of those in need. Gentle
music plays in the background as I lead the group
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into this healing. At some point, that sleepy feeling comes
over me. My voice becomes quiet, and I drift into
the trance state. I am told by Sandra that usually
after twenty minutes, the voice of Eric speaks through me
and delivers words of philosophy for all. Then members of
our group are invited to ask Eric questions or to
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have him speak on topics regarding life, death, or the afterlife.
At the time of this book publication, we have well
over two hundred hours of these sittings. Conversations with Eric
was compiled from transcripts of actual sittings, containing some of
Eric's most powerful words on the most requested subjects. Eric's
words are profound, enlightening, and comforting. It is my sincere
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wish that mister Eric Robert Johnston's words and philosophy find
their way into the hearts and minds of many. Scott
Milligan more words.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
From the book, and we'll hear from the actual Eric
when we get back. You're listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a m
paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(13:30):
I'm Sandra Champlain, and we're celebrating the release of the
new book Conversations with Eric Life, Death, and the Afterlife
through the closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. I'm not
only the publisher. I wrote the forward, so I'll read
that to you now and you'll get a little more
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understanding of why this is so important to me. I
would have never imagined spending over two hundred hours of
my life talking to an old dead man. Not just
any dead man, but the wisest, most compassionate, loving and
non judgmental gentleman named mister Eric Robert Johnston, who lived
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in the Victorian era in England and passed away near
the end of the eighteen hundreds. You see, I was
a skeptic about the afterlife, mediums and all talk of
other worldly people, places, or beings. I wasn't just skeptical.
I had a big ego and spoke very negatively of
people interested in spirituality or the metaphysical.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
So what happened? I developed a huge fear of dying
that led me on a quest to determine for myself
if there was any evidence of the afterlife. I'm pleased
to say there is, and there is a lot of it.
I have dedicated well over twenty five years of my
life to studying the various reasons to believe, authored and
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international best selling book titled We Don't Die, a skeptics
Discovery of Life after Death, and I host two podcasts,
We Don't Die and Shades of the Afterlife, which together
encompass well over seven hundred hours of episodes featuring conversations
with experts and everyday folks on the many reasons to
believe that we survive physical death. There are numerous reasons
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to believe in the afterlife. Some of my favorites include
vertical near death experiences, induced after death, communication therapy, deathbed
visitations and the world of audio and visual trans communication. However,
the one that brings me the most comfort are our
conversations with Eric. In November twenty sixteen, during my never
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ending search for afterlife evidence, I was introduced to a
young man named Scott Milligan. I had heard about physical mediumship,
a rare form of communication where voices of discarnate spirits
could be heard in the darkness of a seance room.
These voices were said to be those of our deceased
loved ones and others spirit helpers, doing their best to
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prove that our consciousness continues after physical death through the
phenomena they deliver. Of course, this sounded too good to
be true, but there is only one way to find out.
So I took a three thousand mile journey from my
home in the United States to a small town in
southeastern England. I have always been so passionate about investigating
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the afterlife, knowing firsthand the difference it would make to
others who fear death or have experienced deep grief after
the passing of a loved one. The five day retreat
opened to my eyes and heart in a way nothing
else could. I experienced three kinds of mediumship, evidential, physical
and trance. My heart was filled with love seeing evidential
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mediums giving platform demonstrations, delivering words from loved ones in
the spirit world. We received training and experienced that we
are all mediums and how the spirit world communicates through
our thoughts and feelings ways we previously thought was just
our imagination. I will save my experience with physical mediumship
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for Scott's next book, but what I can tell you
is that it brought the joy of Christmas back to me.
Voices do communicate in the darkness. Phenomena occurred that was
so joyful, and all who witnessed it were left in
a state of awe and filled with love for humanity
and the unseen world. Toward the end of the retreat,
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I had my first experience of trance mediumship. This young
man named Scott Milligan sat in front of the group
and closed his eyes. Music was played that seemed to
lull him into a different state of consciousness. After some time,
a much different voice spoke from Scott's mouth. This was
the voice of Eric. Eric speaks in a way that
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we do not speak today, filled with pleasantries and proper etiquette.
He has a deep voice and used some vocabulary that
was used long ago. During Scott's trance demonstration, Eric shared
words of philosophy about life, death, and the reality of
the afterlife. I hung onto every word and was overjoyed
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at what I was witnessing. Eric asked the audience if
we had any questions. With a mix of curiosity and uncertainty,
I introduced myself to Eric. Eric always asks I trust
you or well. I told him I was well. Indeed,
the question I had was about suffering. My dad passed
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away from cancer and suffered terribly at the end. I
wanted to know why we human beings must endure pain
and suffering and if it served any purpose. Eric's answer
was lengthy, but here are some words that comforted me.
In his response, Well, I have to say to you
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it does help to enrich the soul's experience because you
won't experience it in our world. Suffering is a byproduct
of being alive. Your body is fragile and filled with senses.
The body is a miracle. Once you are born, it
starts to kill itself, but it kills itself so you
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can renew. In our world, if you are to cut
into the skin, it causes such pain, but The body
then learns how to cope with the cut, and it
starts to bring what has been separated back together. But
I have to say to you that when you are
alive and experience pain for yourself, it is terribly distressing.
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The only hope I can give you is that it
lasts only for a short period of time, and when
you come to our side of life, the physical pain
goes back to the earth. You arrive in the state
of familiarity, where everything is familiar to you, and you
receive the proper education, are reunited with your love ones,
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and then you can move into the greater world of spirit.
We hear the cry of those who are left behind,
and no matter how loudly we shout, we are still
with you. Sadly, your earthly ears do not hear us,
so we must come to you in dreams. But then
when you are awake and tears stream down your face,
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you say, oh, it was only a dream, and we
must work incredibly hard to convince you to allow you
to live again. We draw close to give you a
healing bomb to wipe away those tears, and embrace you
and tell you that it will be okay. In your world.
People leave you and our world people join you, and
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so they will leave you for a moment in your
world physically. But when it is your time, when our
world surrounds you, we get excited that you are arriving.
A sense of peace will wash over you, a sense
of calm because you, your soul knows the natural progression
to our world. So, in answer to your question, pain
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is a byproduct of being alive, but you will not
experience it in our world. Those words made such a
difference for me, and in another question, I learned that
if the body is suffering, the soul can move to
the unseen world even before the body dies. None of
us wish to suffer or want our loved ones to
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experience pain. The next four years, I spent as much
time as I could with Scott and his spirit team.
I made regular trips to London, taking a taxi an
hour and a half each way, just to discover trance
and have an opportunity to sit with Scott, my soul
and the spirit world. I am pleased to know that
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we all have our own spirit teams, and that Eric
and Scott's other friends are companions to us all, and
that love is always available to us from the invisible
world around us. Quieting the mind is the way to
communicate with our soul, our loved ones, and those invisible
that accompany us in our lives. Scott and I quickly
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became good friends, and in twenty twenty we began offering
Trance and the Altered States classes on Zoom and weekly
sessions called in the Arms of Eternity, sending much needed
healing to the people of the world, followed by a
demonstration of trance. I have been the host and facilitator
of these online sessions. Scott begins by gently leading us
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into healing, listening to soft music, and then becomes quiet,
inviting his friends to join him. All sessions are experimental
and we never know what is going to happen. However,
what typically happens is Eric speaks through Scott, providing philosophy
on a topic that is important to him. Then there's
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always an opportunity for our Zoom audience to ask questions
or have Eric speak on a topic of their choosing.
Audience members type their questions in the question and answer
box on Zoom, and I am the only person who
can see those questions. From time to time, Eric surprises
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me and reads the questions before I am able to
voice them. I've often wondered if he can see through
my eyes, but he assures me that he knows the
questions in people's hearts. Over the past few years, we
have had hundreds of hours of words from mister Eric.
He says that although his voice is the voice we hear,
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he is the voice of many who work with him,
doing their very best to comfort and empower those of
us here on earth. Within these pages you will discover
the most frequently asked questions about topics important to us.
All these questions have been answered and transcribed from our sessions.
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They have been and edited only slightly for correct punctuation
and for ease of reading, but the passionate words are
from our friend Eric. One final note. Out of the
twenty five plus years I have been investigating the afterlife,
the best and most comforting evidence I know and look
forward to is our conversations with Eric. I trust you
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will enjoy his words and invite you to join us
sometime for our in the arms of eternity and discover
Eric's answers to your most important questions. I hope you
like my introduction. The book is broken down into fifty
two different topics, things like reunions with our children and pets,
(24:45):
the halls of learning, Who is Eric? Automatic writing? How
does spiritual healing work? Do our loved ones? Miss us?
The holidays and grief? Dreaming? Our purpose in life? What
does your world look like? How can we connect with
our loved ones forgiveness, romance, near death experiences? And many more.
(25:13):
When we get back from our break, you're going to
meet Eric and here a very fascinating conversation I just
had with him this past week. Let's go to the
break and we'll be right back with a conversation with Eric.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
(25:56):
to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and talking
about our new book Conversations with Eric. What if you
could talk to somebody in the unseen world who lives
in the afterlife? What would you ask them? And in
this segment, I want you to hear from Eric himself.
Get to know the man that I speak with week
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after week. The recordings in the book are all from
our Friday sessions called in the arms of eternity. However,
every month with Scott Milligan, we have a class called
Trance and the Altered States. Some people who join us
are interested in becoming trance mediums. Some just want to
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feel the love from the spirit world or their loved ones,
or connect to their guides. Becoming this kind of a
medium requires a lot of what's called sitting in the
power and sitting to blend with the unseen world. We
meet for four sessions a month, and on the last
session Scott always provides for our class a private trance
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demonstration with questions and answers. This past week, mister Eric
came to address the group and no one had a question,
so I asked a question that I hope will make
you smile. Let me introduce you to our friend in spirit,
mister Eric Robert Johnston.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Sandra, my dear, I trusted you our will. I am
very well.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Thank you Eric.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That is always pleasing to him my fin Now, as
time moves ever far away, what can I do to
serve you all?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I have a topic, Eric, If there's no questions.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
If it is so, let it be pleased.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Okay, it's on the topic of Heaven on Earth. I
was looking around my garden, seeing the beautiful birds, the flowers,
and is as if someone, perhaps in your world, maybe children,
took blank pieces of paper with all kinds of colors
and created this most beautiful tapestry of plants and birds
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and animals. And then I have to believe that our
world is a replica of yours. Could you just talk
a bit about heaven on earth? No, of course, my friend,
what a wonderful way of expressing how a child can
create such beauty, and quite rightly so. But then you
say that.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Our world is a replica of this But may I
say it is a continuation of this world. You all
have seen how mother Earth can provide substance and beauty.
For if you could imagine, my friends, before you learnt
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to migrate to other countries, what it must have been
like to know the land you were born, to know
the flowers, to know what berries to eat, what birds
to admire, what beast to fee from. But then you
move to other contebries, and it felt so different. Their
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behaviors were foreign to you, including the earth, land, the nature.
And therefore you try to recreate in that foreign land
that seems familiar, And then it starts to change from
what it was to where it is now. Your world
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is ever changing, but our world also must change with it.
For the vibration in which you enter is a state
of familiarity. It is familiar to you, so you come
a custom from changing your thoughts from one vibration to
the next. We pray for all of you to find
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heaven in your world, which is peace. But if heaven
exists in your world, so must hell, for it has
to have night and day. If you don't have hell,
you won't know what heaven is and which one is
more pleasing. Fire you see the beauty because, my friend,
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you have seen the world in a different way. You
have lived a fast paced life where you've had to
cater for others needs when they are enjoying themselves. You
are stressed because you have target, you have employment, and now,
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my friends, you now see the world to be different.
Or you have earned your stripes and you have moved
from your residence to a different place where nature has
more opportunity. The natural law of attraction is in operation
(31:22):
all and around you. You attract those of like minds,
But equally in your world you can attract people who
see you to be awfully different, and therefore they may
wish to harm you. This is why your world knows both.
(31:43):
In our world, the natural law of attraction is in operation,
and therefore you will not have interaction with any individual
or animal that will do you harm or you them harm.
If you can imagine, if your mind would love it.
(32:05):
You say that you see beauty in heaven in your world,
and quite rightly sow, my friends, but it will not
prepare you efficiently to what the beauty of our world
has to offer. If you truly saw what we know,
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you'll find it difficult to exist within your reality. You have,
my friends, dreams that are so peaceful when you choose
to extend those dreams, even though if the world is
calling you back when you wake, my friend, then you
call it a dream as it has been expressed. But
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you then wish the day away to the time that
you can rest again and get lost within your imagination.
But all world is beyond anything your mind can create.
The color not of your spectrum, sound not of your frequency.
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And time, my friend, where your body will not be exhausted.
There is no time for you to sleep in actuality,
my friends, but for us to commune with you. We
must revert back to that photo press. It aids us
to lower our vibration back to your earth. But my friends,
(33:38):
think of all the species that does not exist in
your world. There is no photograph, no painting that will
truly do justice, and it doesn't show their personality. Maybe
it is because, my friends, but that species that functioned
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as a consciousness moved into the reality that this world
has served its papers woe. Mankind eventually realized that it
is time that it has served its purpose and no
longer live within your world. What will come of the residents,
(34:26):
the statues, the stones that mankind has made. Will it
become an irritant? Or has the earth found a way?
Like a stream that's disrupted can always find its flow again.
(34:47):
This world in which you live, a former world in
which I used to know, is part of the soul's progression,
so it becomes vers. Your world has to offer a
sense of peace, but it also has to give you
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the opportunity of detachment that you can leave it behind.
Your world will always be the most densest form of
creation because thought can be light and heavy, and your
world is increasingly heavy. Because modern technology thribes on negativity.
(35:41):
Those who claim to sell the rag, speak through the wireless,
or show themselves on the devil's bobs, finds it more
invigorating to speak of negativity, which then puts one in
the hearts of those who observe or listen. Then therefore
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a vibration goes out again and feeds the negative beast.
So my friends find heaven. Of course, is our dear friend,
Sadra said, by the colors of the birds, the colors
of the leaves. But I wonder if my friends, that
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those who live in the local are surroundings sees the
same beauty as the one that's just inquired. Do the
animals feel safe or have they been so fickle to
be persuaded by the hand that feeds them and in
(36:49):
return does the ray of dance by flying back and
forth and running back and wark. If all people in
your world treated all life, no matter what form it
has taken, with us no respect, then it will be
(37:13):
a glimpse, only a glimpse. My fan of the world
that'll wait.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Show we'll hear more words from mister Eric on the
other side of the break. But if you're wondering, the
rag is the newspaper, the wireless is the radio, and
the devil's box is what he calls our televisions. Yes,
I do seem to spoil the birds and the squirrels
and the critters these days. But he's right. I lived
(37:44):
a very fast paced life, working eighty hours a week
for many years until COVID hit and I live a
different kind of life in nature right now, and I
appreciate it, I really do. So let's go to the
break and we'll be right back with more of mister Eric.
You're listening to Shades.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast,
a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(38:28):
I'm Sandra Champlain and we're talking with mister Eric, Robert Johnston,
who lived back in the eighteen hundreds. He's wise, he's wonderful.
He's the subject of our new book, Conversations with Eric.
I had asked him about heaven on Earth and all
the beautiful birds and landscapes and if they are created
(38:50):
by his world. He was mentioning that if we treat
each other with kindness like I show the birds, it
would be a whole different kind of Earth. He's got
more to say on this topic, So let's continue.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
If you allow me to extend further with this, is
that permitted?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Please?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
In your world you have animals for human consumption. You
have plants to grow to aid wellness only for a
short period of time. These things of what I speak
of is not respected. It is bred for consumption and
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monetary gain. An animal that has been bred for human consumption,
where there is no love there will not interact with
you when you come to the spirit world. They will
have their own vibration and they will not see or
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experience people like yourself, for it will serve no purpose.
But if the animal was given love and respect, even
though it may have been euphanized, it will have interaction.
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But it will not be confined within a cave separated
by barriers. It will be allowed to interact. But if
the observer can only see it in a cage, that
is how it will be presented. But then we will
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work and the cage will then fade away to walk
in the natural habitat and see the animal be what
it was meant to be. Equally, with this thought, my friends,
it extends to people in your world, people who have
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had impact in your world in a negative capacity will
still be within our world, but the vibration will be
so different you will not see or interact with each other.
Like expressions that I have shared with you previously, that
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when you look to the Moon, you see a planet
of dust because you are born to this vibration. This
is the vibration that you know. But if someone was
conceived and then born in the vibration of the Moon,
its habitat would not be a planet of dust. It'd
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be full of activity. But it will look to the
Earth and see a planet of dust. It is the
vibration that it was born and nourished in. My friends,
So when they come to our side of life, they
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will be in a vibration, even though it will be
real to them. They will not see you, and you
will not see them. Because it serves no purpose to
have grievance, even though that one may seek forgiveness, it
is no purpose in the state of minerality. Now, I
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did not come here to say that I am God,
and therefore I cannot question God. But certain individuals that
has caused mass impact. These individuals do not exist anymore
within our reality. We see Eric, my friend, for how
is that possible? You have just said, everythinking this world
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comes to yours. The purpose of life is to destroy self.
The imperfections of sealth the individuals that we speak of
that cause mass exodus and mass trauma. These individuals, when
they come to our side of life, are instantly absorbed
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into consciousness. They do not then meet with their family,
They do not have the experiences of learning through the
layers of our world. They just simply are exhausted, and
therefore they do not exist. There are some who create
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the own vibration where my friends is increasingly difficult, but
not impossible for us to reach them. But they're so blindsighted,
deep within their traditions, and therefore, my friends, we sometimes
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require strength from you, who have still knowledge of these
conditions of hatred, love and compassion, of volatility, and therefore
within the power that we are trying to dissolve the
darkness around them. You can assist us, but that is
(44:39):
merely preparing you for the great work when you come
to our side of life. If you are skilled in
such a capacity of communicating, like I am doing now,
then you'll be used. If it is your wish train
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within the wholes of learning, to be a voice, but
a voice that expresses itself through multiple channels of thought,
be it in dream awake, inspiration and meditation, entrancement, or
in the imagination of young minds. But my friends, your
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world did not copy our world. We copied yours. If
it is your will, my friends, that we must now
come to a place where questions may arise within your minds.
(45:47):
But the questions that you think of must lead you
to a greater question. I cannot tell you how your
life will unfold, for it is your choice. The certainty
that I give you is that you will come to
our reality. We will meet, and then you will see
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those who have inspired you. You'll see your family, animals.
If you're with attachments to plants and other trinkets of familiaralities,
you'll be taken to residents. This is very pleasing fire.
(46:37):
You will come to the summer land, and you'll rest
the rest knowing that the world that was so real
to you has served its benign papers. Your world is
the short part of the journey. Your whole, your breath
(47:01):
when you see the beauty of our reality, For what
you breathe in your world is no different to accept
in love. Within our reality, Love will move through you
all and you will continue to seek out knowledge, and
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you'll continue to thrive in a world that knows no war.
Good day to you, my friend.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Thank you Eric. And I think you can probably see
why I love Eric so much. I have literally spent
about two hundred hours I think more than that really
doing these questions and answers. And if you could live
in my shoes just for a little while while and
hear these profound answers. He never misses a beat. He's
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always kind, always compassionate. It's really something spectacular to behold. Now, Scott,
his mind has checked out, but it looks like him
doing the talking, and of course it's Eric speaking through him.
We all have inspirers working with us. They come through
our mind, often in our own voice. You might get
(48:28):
an idea out of nowhere. It may be our soul,
it may be them. But we have loved ones and
helpers on the other side, working with each and every
one of us. We do. This new book is called
Conversations with Eric, Life, Death and the Afterlife through the
Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium. On my website, we
(48:51):
Don't Die dot com. If you want to watch some
of the past replays, you can watch them for free.
Just go to the store page and scroll to the bottom.
There's tons of in the arms of Eternity that are
there for you to enjoy. To behold a trance demonstration
in person or a physical medium seance with this phenomena
(49:14):
happening is incredible. Scott and friends, they'll be traveling through
the United States and Europe and you can see what's
coming up, including our online events. Just go to the
Scott page at Weedon'tdie dot com. My friend, there is
more to life than meets THEI, and more to you
(49:34):
than you know. Just realize, down to our tiniest particle,
all we are is invisible, vibrating energy. It's an illusion
and a very good one of us being alive and real.
And I know there's pain and suffering, but there's a
much bigger picture. You are important, you are loved. Life
(49:54):
is an education for the soul. You're here to dream,
to explore, to make mistakes, to love, to forgive. So
give yourself a big hug. You're just where you need
to be on the journey. You never know what's right
around the corner for you. Good things. I hope, don't forget.
Come visit me at We Don't die dot com. Come
(50:16):
to a free Sunday gathering. Come a few minutes early
and say hello to me. I would love that our
time together for today is over. I hope you enjoyed it.
I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast am Hairinormal podcast Network.
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