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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical doubt and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. There's a
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few things I wish to do with you today. First,
have a little Sandra time, of course, but I want
to play some clips from folks that I spoke with
this past week. Their stories really moved me. First, it's
a beautiful spring day. As I record this. Mom and
I are getting our house painted. A nice guy named
Chris is outside painting as we speak, so you might
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hear his ladders banging around a little bit. I'm sitting
at our kitchen table keeping an eye on everything that's
going on. The squirrels are out underneath the bird feeders
eating the sunflower seeds that have dropped, and I put
out a hummingbird feeder and it's quite active with the
beautiful little ruby throated hummingbirds that made a long flight
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to come back to our home for the summer. You
may not know this, but I record Shades of the
Afterlife about two weeks before they air live for you.
So earlier today, Mom and I were watching TV and
the new Pope was elected, so he is now Pope
Leo the fourteenth, and I feel a sense of excitement
in the air. We don't talk religion on this show,
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and I respect everyone's belief but I have this sneaky
suspicion that having the new Pope born in America might
get people interested that there is something more whatever you
want to call that divine light or God or the universe,
that there's something bigger than ourselves, that somehow we're all connected.
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I grew up spending almost every year of schooling at
Catholic school, so seeing this new pope elected, it's got
a little nostalgia for me. What else has happened since
the last time we were together. Well, on our last episode,
you heard that I published a new book with our
dear friend Got Milligan. Amazon actually released it live about
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five days before they said they would. Scott called me said, hey,
our book is live and in just a matter of
a few hours our book, Conversations with Eric Life, Death
and the Afterlife through the Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium,
became number one in spirit communication in the United States,
the UK, and the Netherlands. So it's been an amazing
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few days and we're still shocked and happy in all
those good things. Is the book about me? No? Is
the book about Scott No It's words about life, death
and the Afterlife that came through him as a trance medium.
Also earlier this morning, I received an email from a
mom who says she's a member of Helping Parents Heal
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and has two sons who have crossed over. She says, Sandra,
I believe I found you and your wonderful messages through
helping parents heal and find your podcast and on Sunday
gatherings very uplifting and comforting. After listening to one of
your shows where you talked with doctor Tom Nimi, I
booked a session with him. I'm still so amazed at
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how much it helped me. It's incredible. I told doctor Tom,
I can't wrap my brain around how much his sessions
have helped me. I could actually feel my son's presence
and their touch. I wanted to share this incredible experience
with you because I feel we are all so connected
and I have such a sense of peace after my
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sessions of IADC. Thanks for the love and light you
are bringing into the world. You are most welcome. All
I want to do is share, share good people, and
share things that make a difference. And beneath absolutely everything
that I do is the fact that we've all experienced
the pain of grief and if I can do anything
to help lift you or another out of that, I'm
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going to do it. So more news coming f from me.
We are now well over two hundred episodes of Shades
of the Afterlife, and I was thinking, perhaps it's time
for me to write another book. And I'm just brainstorming
right now, but I realize I haven't kept good records
of what I've spoken about on each and every podcast.
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So with the help of Google's Gemini, I'm going back
and uploading every transcript to find the nuggets of gold
that I think need to be shared in perhaps this
new book. It's going to take me a lot of
time to go through the two hundred plus episodes, but
while I was going through them, there were some stories
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that I've forgotten about, stories that made a difference for me,
and I thought we can relive some of those together today.
The people I want you to hear from one is
Bo Williams and the other is Kia Schaeffer. I still
have my we Don't Die YouTube channel and I interview
people one on one and have close to five hundred episodes.
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I still do that because I think it's important to
hear people's full stories. I played clips of them on
Shades the Afterlife. You know, the best stuff, but there
were some words that really struck me from these two.
Bo Williams is a man whose soulmate, the love of
his life, ended up taking her own life just one
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year ago, and he does something called breath work to
connect with her. So I want to share with you
what he does and how he realized it. The other
person Kira Schaeffer. She's a book publisher with now eighty
books she's published. She's lived a tough life with many
moments that almost killed her, and there's been a thread
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through all of them, and that is at that moment
close to death. She didn't have a near death experience,
but she had an awe inspired experience, one that let
her know that there's something so much bigger than the
life we now live. So I'll play her words as
well for you today. You can find everything I've ever
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recorded on my website We Don't Die dot com, of course,
but here on Shades of the Afterlife, I really want
to just give you the best to the best. Now,
how is it you came to listening to me today?
I find we human beings get interested in the afterlife
for a few different reasons. One we may have a
fear of dying, which is what brought me in. Another,
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being a loved one passes and we want nothing more
than to know that they have survived physical death. We
may also get a life threatening illness and be worried
what happens after we die? Does something happen after we die?
And that might bring you in, But also there might
just be that bit of curiousness. I think at a
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certain age all human beings start asking the big questions.
I was just talking to my mom about this yesterday.
She says, what do you do if somebody is so
skeptical and they don't believe it? How do you convince them?
And I said, well, I don't try to convince them.
There's what's called closed minded skeptics that we're never going
to get through to, and there's open minded skeptics, probably
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like you and me, that we want to believe, but
we're also weary if things seem too good to be true.
Sometimes they are. I'm happy that my mom is now
at that open minded skeptic place and that I can
engage in these conversations with her. There's another way people
get involved, and this is something they don't choose to.
They might get sick or be in an accident and
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have a near death experience or some kind of an
out of body experience. Many who were previously atheists, suddenly
realize there's something more, suddenly have no fear of death,
suddenly want to make their life about helping other people.
Those are all after effects of near death experiences. I
don't want to have a near death experience because I'm
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sure it will involve some pain. So if we can
get these after effects by listening to shades of the afterlife,
that works for me. So let's start with some stories
of people who started their interest in the afterlife out
of a painful occurrence. We'll start with John Austin, who
we learned about on episode one hundred and seventy six.
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By the way, we wouldn't be here today without John Austen,
because of his desire to find evidence of the afterlife,
started to look into mediums, and eventually the young Scott
Milligan came into his circle. And here we are today.
You see. John and Geraldine Austen lost to their son
Howard and one of his best friends in a terrible
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train crash. They went looking for evidence of the afterlife,
and in their journey they met a medium named Doris
Fisher Stokes. In those days, people would sit in what
they called home circles and invite in spirits. They called
them seances. They would do what's called table tipping, where
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they put their fingertips lightly on the table. They'd ask
questions and the table would levitate, knock once on the
ground for yes and twice for no, and that was
spirit communication. Well. Medium doors Fisher Stokes told the Austins
that they would hold their own home circles and sit
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on behalf of the spirit world. They met an incredible medium,
also by the name of Leslie Flint, who would close
his eyes in a darkened room and voices of loved
ones would seem to come out of mid air. They
heard their son Howard's voice through Leslie Flint. John and
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Geraldine did, in fact go on to create their home
circle where they did this table tipping loud bangs and
spoke to son Howard and his friend and said, is
that you boys. They had a tape recorder on during this,
and they had a black cat named Blackie, and as
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these bangs were going off in the room, the cat
was walking around in the darkness. At the end of
their seance, they played the recording back. When Geraldine said
is that you boys, a voice on the recording says yes, mom,
we're here, and after she said be careful of the cat,
the voice on the recording says, I won't hurt Blackie.
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John and Geraldine at one point needed a new carpet
for their home seances and found a young man to
install a red carpet. They inquired, did this young man
know about the afterlife and would he be interested in
sitting in the home circle. He was interested. Every time
they got together they would ask the table to point
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to the strongest medium. The table always signified John Austen
until this one time it acknowledged the carpet layer. That
young man is Colin Fry, a very famous medium in history.
Colin went off to do some big, incredible things as
a medium, including having his own television show, and it
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was time for a new medium to lead the circle.
And this is when fifteen year old Scott Milligan got
introduced to the world of spiritualism. Fascinating story. Just go
back to episode one seventy six and remember the name
Leslie Flint, the man who had voices appear in the
darkness of loved ones. If you wish to go back
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to episode one eighty eight. We celebrate him and I
even play some of these voices that were heard in
the dark. It's time for our break, and when we
come back, we're going to hear from Bo Williams and
his story of reconnecting through breath work. You're listening to
Shade's the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
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AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain and joining us now is Bo Williams,
author of One Year with My Soulmate, in which he
shares his profound connection with his late beloved Melanie and
the spiritual journey that followed. Bo's pre spiritual life included
many roles as a football player, actor, stockbroker, bartender, security personnel,
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and screenwriter. Let's hear his story of reconnection through breathwork.
Here's Bo.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I've written five scripts and somehow got into the events
business and I was working I Can get a place
called the Buffalo Club, and in twenty fifteen, Melanie walked
in the door to one of my events. She was
probably twenty five years old at the time, and there
was just this magnetic electricity between us. The moment that
our eyes met, and it continued to persist all the
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way through our friendship, which was about a eight year friendship.
We lost touch for about three years. She was in
a relationship and alienated herself from her family and her friends.
We kept circling each other's orbit. Our first real date
was on May sixteenth, twenty twenty three, and I lost
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her on May eighteenth, twenty twenty four. It was really
one year with my soulmate. The first way that Melanie
started communicating with me was she was training to be
a breathwork therapist. She was sexually abused when she was
four years old and it never really worked through that.
At fifteen, when she started high school, she was taking
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a real interest in boys for the first time, and
as those feelings started to come up, so did the
sexual abuse energy that she had suppressed. And her parents
couldn't figure out why she was struggling in school. Nobody
really knew, and she was very private and secretive. They
just thought she had ADHD. They put her on adderall.
She was on adderall for fifteen years, which I think
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pressed those feelings down a little bit deeper. Ended up
running away from her family, found herself in a toxic
relationship with a man that was she was twenty six
and he was forty four. I think maybe four years
into the relationship, she realized that she needed to get
out of the relationship and she needed to get off
the adderall. She told me she was on eighty milligrams
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of adderall a day. She found breath work, and through
breath work, she was able to clear that energy. Her
intuition was activated. She was starting to realize things about
her past, and she came to understand that the reason
why she was depressed, and she was fifteen years old,
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is because it was that suppressed sexual abuse trauma that
she had never dealt with. So she made that connection
and her goal was to help young girls who were
struggling with abuse and addiction. So she wanted to teach
breath work, but she had a real difficult time telling
her story. On our third date, she put me through
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a breath work session. So she brought me into breath work.
During our relationship, we would hold hands and we would
breathe together. I found her at the foot of our bed.
She had ripped my shotgun out of the closet and
she shot herself in the chest with it. And I
found her at the foot of our bed and the
first night that I stayed in our bedroom after her service,
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This is ten days later. I was curious. I read
Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian Weiss, and that book
blew my mind. I've always been curious about reincarnation. Energy
can neither be created nor to and I've always thought
about the idea that we come back, or at least
some of us do, if we haven't graduated yet. And
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so I'm lying in bed during a breath work session.
After about twenty minutes of meditation, I did David Elliott's
twenty eight minute meditation, which was who Melanie was training with,
and I said, Melo, are you here? This U four?
It surge of electricity shot through all of my chakras
and I'm like, this is crazy, no way. And I
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realized I could ask her you aswer you no questions,
and so I just started rattling him off. I was
so excited, but I realized I was running the questions together,
which was muddying the answers. And then I asked her,
I said, is it difficult for you to communicate like this?
And she said yes? And I said, would you like
me too far ind a medium? And there was a
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big yes, and then I started asking do you want
to see certain people in her life? And through one
of her breath work friends, I was led to a
woman in bro Glynn named Brandy. I think it was
the first reading for her family. When it's me and
Mel's family and her getting a chance to communicate directly
with us through Brandy, where Brandy's channeling her, that was
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a pretty powerful experience. After that realization, new forms of
communication opened up. It started with the surge in my chakras,
and then it was music. She somehow was taking control
of the YouTube algorithm and telling her story through YouTube
music videos or the Spotify songs, even songs at the gym.
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The signs and synchronicities, and I don't know how I
was able to recognize them. I think somehow the trauma
unlocked something in me. But my healing routine was waking
up at six o'clock in the morning every day, journaling,
listening to music, hit fitness at eight am. Then it
was ice bath for five minutes. Then it was writing
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six hours a day, writing the book, journaling everything that
was happening to me, and it was breathwork at night,
and initially in the early stages it was breath work
two three times a day because I was in so
much pain. The working out felt good, obviously, but anytime
a tsunami of sadness came through, it was breath work
that I used to clear that energy. Every day I
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woke up to the same nightmare that she wasn't there,
and it was just about trying to get to okay.
I do think breath work is a wonderful too. Like
I said, it really helped Melanie. When we first started dating.
She had a routine and the end of her routine
every night was a shower and then her putting on
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her essential oils and lying in bed and breathing for
thirty minutes. Ani Yama is the name. It's an ancient
breathing technique. You lie flat on your back. Sometimes you
hold stones, You put an eyemassk over your eyes or
eyepillows and it's one to the belly, two to the chests,
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and then exhale and it's repetitive and it goes on
for about thirty minutes. The longer you go, you start
to feel the energy coursing through your body. Starts as
a light vibration and it starts to get really strong.
And I've been to points where it really feels like
you could shoot lasers out of your fist. And essentially
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what you're doing is you're inviting your higher self into
your body and you're clearing any trapped energy that might
be in there. And when you invite your higher self in,
you're activating your intuition. It helps you to discover your
true path. I've had so many ideas and thoughts come
to me during breathwork. Chris wouldn't do a reading. That
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was the first guy that we spoke to, but he said,
are you a writer? Bow? And I said yeah. I
said you should get a journal and start journaling everything.
It's about tapping to you and really through breath work,
this whole process, the Sunflower Signals podcasts, the Butterfly Effect,
retreat one year with my soulmate, I really can attribute
everything that I've built in the last year to breathing.
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Every night, I can ask yes or no questions on something.
Am I supposed to shoot a podcast about this? And yes?
Am I supposed to put it on this date? Yes?
And the way that feels is it is like goosebumps,
but it's times a thousand. It's not like your typical
goosebumps with hair standing up on your arms. It's internal,
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it's goosebumps inside my body. And it's interesting that Melanie
was the one that taught me bathworks. So it's like
she gave me this gift and then she left me,
But she left me with a gift to pull me through.
And this is where things get really complicated. And I'm
not going to sit here and begin to understand how
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it all works on the other side, because that just
is not something I think that A We're not meant
to know everything that happens over there. But it's come
through music, it's come through mediums, it's come through featured photos.
Brandy told me something that was interesting. When truth hides
in the shadows, it can't help anybody. And I've been
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feeling the pressure to keep Melanie's story a secret. Not
being able to tell her story was a big reason
why she retreated. Three months prior to her passing, she
went back to the adderall she tried to go back.
The big song that's come through is say Yes to Heaven,
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Say Yes to Me by Randon Delray. I've tried to
do that, and I've committed to that and The other
thing is with not being able to go back. I
saw an interesting quote by Dick Gregory. It kept coming
through to me and my Instagram feed, and it said,
once you put on the magic glasses, you can't take
them off. Melanie was tapped into the Acastric records. She
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was having visions and they were heavy for and I
don't think she was vulnerable enough to where she felt
like it have those conversations with people that she was
close to, and she could have. That's the one thing
that I think that I would say to her if
she was still here, and I think that she knows now,
is that that wouldn't have scared me off. We're talking
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earlier about the way that I've progressed as far as
communicating with the other side. It was chakras, music mediums.
I've got twelve thousand photos in my cell phone. She
assembles featured photos for me every day with a new
message that in addition to Morse code, I get twitches
in my body, dots and dashes, and I taught myself
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Morse code, and that's really difficult to decipher. But when
I figure out what the message is, and now my
chakras aren't just going and during a breath work session,
they go. When I have the thought on what the
message that's coming through my arm or my hip or
my quad, it's all over my body that happens. That's
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something I'm still trying to figure out and get the
hang of the moors. Oh doesn't even find its way
into the first book because so much has happened to
me since the first book. The first book's kind of
a warm up. The second book is like, what, no way,
this cannot be real. But I think I set people
up for what comes in the second book.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
In the first book, So that was Bo Williams, author
of One Year with My Soulmate. I have to be
honest with you, I didn't really know about breath work,
but from what it sounds like, it forces you to
be in the present moment for a concentrated period of time.
He says, a half hour breathing in through your belly,
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breathing in through your chest, and then exhaling it. He
mentioned the name David Elliot, so of course I googled
David Elliott and I found he has a meditation that
ranges for me. There are seven fourteen, twenty one or
twenty eight minutes Pranayama Breath as we just heard about,
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and he's got a YouTube channel and the seven minute
meditation is on there, so just look up David Elliott
breathwork on YouTube. It's time for our break, and when
we get back, you'll hear another story from publisher Kira
and the moments of awe she experienced prior to death.
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We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
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Sandra Champlain. Next, I want to introduce you to Kia Schaeffer.
I found out about Kira through my friend Roseanne grew Norris,
author of the book Believe. Roseanne submitted a story for
a book called Synchronicity. One thing led to another and
I meet her publisher. It turned out Kira, who runs
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As You Wish Publishing with her husband Todd, has had
a series of terrible situations which has brought her to
the verge of death many times. Her story is unique
and I want you to meet her now.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
The first time that I thought I was going to die,
I was seven years old. I was pushed down on
the playground by one of the kids. I got knocked
down and I didn't get up. There was just this
big black period of time. I did eventually wake up
and I looked and I realized that I was alone.
But then I went inside and then all of a sudden,
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the headache started. So I had hurt myself really badly.
I got home and I was screaming, crying. If you
knew me, I was that person, I would not ever
scream cry. So my mother said, just go to sleep, Just.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And then there was a very long period. I felt
like I live an entire lifetime in darkness. It just
was so long. But I was conscious and I was
aware of it, but I was asleep to the outside
world because now I have a concussion. During that time
that I experienced that darkness, it was incredibly warm and
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it was incredibly peaceful. So even though my mind couldn't
wrap itself around any visual stimulation or hearing things or
any of that stuff, I do believe that I was
in that space between and connection to the divine, even
though I couldn't see it. I don't have a fear
of death. For me dying I definitely fear the loss
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of loved ones, but I do know where they go.
You just know that I've had six potential times that
I could have died. But I'll just share a couple
experience that I had prior to the moment I'm about
to share. They weren't great. I had severe anxiety. I
had migraines from my head trauma. I had lots of
different problems at home and not being seen, not heard,
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feeling just always.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
On the edge.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I self medicated with drugs and alcohol, anything that I
could find to help me with the anxiety that I felt,
and then it just compounded and it just everything worse.
If you turn to drugs or alcohol, you don't have
just one problem. Now you have two problems. So it's
a snake eating its tail. I finally got to the
point where I was like, something has to change in
my life, and my ex fiance at the time was
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pretty much a raging alcoholic. One night, I made my decision,
I'm moving on. I did a whole house clearing. I
was like, I am changing my ways, all right, But
I had this guy in my life, and I think
to myself, maybe he'll change as I change, as I
grow and know. So the night he almost killed me
was the time that I had my greatest awakening. But
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this felt like a major one for me because it
changed absolutely everything about who I am fundamentally, without going
into too much graphic detail. He was blackout drunk. He
beat me pretty severely, weirdly on my front porch. But
what was good about that is that I had a
neighbor that witnessed the whole thing. So when we went
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to court, he was there to testify and say, this
is what happened. Anyway, I'm laying on the ground. He's
just repeatedly kicked me in the head. I'm in and
out of consciousness, and I say, God, here's the deal.
You either let him kill me now, or I'll spend
my life in service, whatever way that looks like for
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you and for others. I had this feeling of a
deep knowing and I sat up. I felt no pain,
and psychologically and physiologically people say I was in shock,
but I wasn't in shock. Before the moment that I
said I give my life in service, it just flowed
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through me.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
The feeling.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I mean, I could feel it now even just talking
about the power of that. The true, incredible love, of
feeling of presence that only comes in that moment of
pure and total surrender. He sat up, and I went inside,
and I got the phone and I called nine one
one and I said, we're having a domestic disturbance, as
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calmly as anybody could ever talk about anything like that.
And he started screaming at me and headbutted me while
I was on the phone, and then I just said,
he just had buttoned me. I think I can drive.
I'm going to let him out so he can drive away.
Like it was just so bizarre and so calm and clear.
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That's when I truly knew that God existed and got
in the form of whatever we would call God, not
necessarily really religious symbolic God, but a truth. From there,
I learned that I could heal myself and process through things.
I stopped drinking and smoking and drugging, and I started
going to a healing center where this lady there who
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was incredible. She was reiki practitioner, master teacher, and she
taught me how to do regki. And so this was
almost twenty five years ago. I learned how to self
heal and put hands on myself in that kind of
thing deep in my connection with energy, and then from
there I started channeling and I started medium shipping. I
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understood where they were coming from instead of being scared
of them, like suddenly my father would appear in the
mirror in front of me. Along the way, I became
a hypnotherapist because I wanted the scientific backing of what's
happening in this energetic translation. So I wanted people to go, oh,
you're legit. One of the most recent times where I
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felt pretty close to transitioning was I had COVID and
I was stuck in a hotel. I was quarantined in
a hotel, and I probably should have been in the hospital.
I'm not normal, So I'm there and all of a sudden,
my vision starts to get a little funny, really fuzzy,
and I was what is going on. I'm looking at
this white sheet, you know how they are in the hotels.
(32:24):
Everything is stark white. Look at this white sheet, and
all of a sudden, these patterns start coming up, and
I'm like, Okay, this is wild and I'm not understanding
what's going on. So I feel like I'm moving through
a doorway. So I turn off all the lights in
my room and I lay down and I look at
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the ceiling and it is an incredible light show, but
only a part of it is being shown to me
at one time. It's not like showing me the entire
vision of it. And I'm looking at all these brilliant colors.
It's like waves of shapes, and if you've ever studied
sacred geometry or any of that kind of stuff, it's
like they're just all crashing in on each other. I
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haven't done drugs in twenty five years, right, but I'm
in awe. I'm in a complete and utter awe. And
it's that moment where I'm like, this is death, this
is what's going to happen. I just knew it. I
just know it's a knowing, and this feeling of awe
continues to move over me. It's not necessarily peace, it's
not necessarily love. It is touching that infinite in a
(33:30):
way that is undescribable, and I am overwhelmed with the
truth of it. And then I'm like, this might be it.
So I called husband Todd, and I said, hey, there's
some crazy stuff happened to me.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think I'm okay, but if I'm not just know
that I love you, and he goes to wake me too,
get you do af what's going on? So I'm like, no, I'll.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Let you know.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Just such a funny, weird experience. So then I go
went to the bathroom and my brain isn't working right
with what the physical world is doing. So then feel
or sense just like a portal, like a doorway opening up,
and I go, no, not without toat not without time,
and then everything stops, like my vision comes back to normal.
(34:25):
Everything is back to normal, Everything is fine, And I
go and I lay down and I go to sleep
and I'm fine. I text hot and say I'm okay.
That was very hard to come back from. I'll be
honest because feeling and sensing that and touching that moment
of what I believe is truth of what will happen,
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it was hard to go.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now I gotta go and do the work, and I've
got to chop wood and carry water, and I've got
to do the thing, and I have to breathe in
and out, and I have to make money and live
and survive and thrive and be happy. When the feeling
of the most ultimate feeling of happiness already happened. It's
just so difficult to come back from them. So it
took me about six months to almost start to feel normal.
(35:11):
And then after that, what interestingly happened was anytime anybody
in my life passage, which I have had a few
since then, I'm like, Oh, they are so happy right now,
they are so blessed in that moment. Right now, they
are so at ease right now, they are so loved
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and held right now, they are so in awe right now.
I'm jealous. I wish I was with them, But I
also know that it's not yet time. And so that
thread is that a feeling our sense are knowing that
this is a way station and we get to be
with each other for a short time until it's time
(35:57):
for us to be called home. And that's the most
beautiful thing I think I've ever experienced in my life.
There is zero doubt in me whatsoever that the loved
ones of those who are listening to your program are
in absolute grace. And to me, it's just a deep knowing.
It's not just a kind of fanciful, oh they're in
(36:19):
a better place thing. It's a much deeper and more
profound moment that I have with it. And it's hard
to tell people about that when they're in the grieving
process in some ways, because it can feel discounting or
maybe even diminishing on the burden that they are experiencing
the loss they've had. And I would never want that
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to happen. And in some cases it does the opposite,
like it does with me, where it's oh my gosh,
they're so lucky.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
They're so lucky, She says. Could you imagine being so
at peace with your belief in the afterlife that when
somebody passes, you think they're lucky and you know what
it is they're going to Maybe someday that will be
real for all of us. Kira spent twenty years as
a clinical hypnotherapist, and her and her husband and they're
(37:13):
As You Wish Publishing, have published about eighty books. Several
are anthologies which they are looking for authors to submit
a chapter. She really has made her life about service
and making sure people's voices get heard. I enjoyed talking
with her, and it was very synchronistic how we met.
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We're going to take our next break and when we
come back, let's brainstorm a little for how we can
get this message out in the world and the different
reasons to believe in the afterlife, and maybe you'd like
to share with me your story for this new upcoming
book will be right back. You're listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a
(37:58):
m paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(38:20):
I'm Sandra Champlain, and as I mentioned in our first
segment together, I have been percolating an idea for a
comprehensive book of stories about the afterlife, and I'd love
your help. Perhaps you're a long time listener or short
term listener and you've got some favorite stories let me
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know what they are, or you yourself have had a
sign a near death experience or some interesting experience around
the afterlife that you'd like to share. Email me, would
you please. Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com is my
email address. I have been reviewing the past episodes very slowly,
(39:06):
going through each and everyone, what the stories were, what
category they were in, and it's a big project. We
are well over two hundred episodes plus I have nearly
five hundred episodes of We Don't Diet Radio on my
YouTube channel, so there's a lot of work ahead for me,
but could you imagine. I think it would be a
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good sized book, broken into the different categories, just loaded
with stories and references about all things after life. And
I'm talking credible reasons to believe. There's nothing against people
that have beliefs and angels, spirit guides, et cetera. Nothing
(39:52):
wrong with that, But I'm looking for those clear bits
of evidence, those signs from loved ones, those transcommunications, whether
by pictures or by electronic voice phenomena, the near death experiences,
especially the ones that can be verified deathbed visitors, automatic writing,
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doctors who have had extraordinary stories or extraordinary experiences. As
I'm going through the last forty, that's where I'm up
to the last forty. We've talked about things like terminal lucidity,
people who are virtually brain dead and then moments before death,
they come back to life. They can talk to their
(40:39):
loved ones, but they're also seeing across the veil and
seeing loved ones in the afterlife. There's such thing as
we know trance and physical mediumship, which the world believed
in in the turn of the century and before, but
with so many frauds that came about this form of
mediumship disappeared and evidential mediumship arose. Perhaps you have had
(41:04):
an interaction with a medium that gave you such clear
information that no one could possibly know. I'd love to
hear about it. There are signs and synchronicities from our
loved ones that can't be anything other than a clear
sign that they exist. There's after death communications of different kinds.
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There's the spontaneous ones that we've heard about not too
long ago. I remember a fellow that I worked with
at the races. He came into our dining tent and
he told me he had never told another person the story.
But when he gets in the zone and he could
be working on a car, out of the corner of
his eye, he sees his dad and the dog that
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he had growing up, of course, looking young and healthy
and well. And then as soon as his conscious mind
kicks in, the vision disappears. And what about doctor Matthew
McKay on episode one seventy seven, a psychology professor that
never believed any of this, but his own son was
murdered and he went looking for answers. Not only did
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he have one of these induced after death communications, he
now communicates with his son through automatic writing. The thing
nearest and dearest to my heart right now is I
had a session of IADC grief therapy myself and I
couldn't believe not only did the grief disappear, but felt
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that connection with my own dad. And who could forget
the great near death experiences where people's lives are transformed.
Doctor Tony remember him a lightning strike caused him to
die and only to come back and have the skill
of a classical pianist. The work of David Kestler. We
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celebrated on episode one hundred and eighty all the stories
of the dying being greed by their deceased parents or spouses,
or siblings, or friends or even pets, showing us that
even at the end of our life, we leave gracefully
and we don't leave alone. Let's not forget episode one
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eighty four with doctor Janet Pete Alatto talking about dreams.
We even get into lucid dreams and what we can
do to aid the process of connecting with our loved
ones through dreams. Do you remember episode one ninety with
the two moms, Carol Morgan and Nicole Clark. Carol Morgan
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uses a pendulum with letters and numbers and is able
to communicate with her son that way. In episode one
ninety one, we took a trip to Brazil and it's
a country that celebrates the afterlife and they're open about it,
unlike the rest of the world or most places in
the world. We want to believe that the afterlife is real,
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but we think people in our lives won't accept it,
so we keep our mouths shut. The truth is, it's
something like ninety percent of the people in the world
believe in the afterlife. We just need to talk about it.
Episode one ninety six, Joshua Lewis brought us the Hope
Spirit Box app something we can all use in our
phone to try to communicate with our loved ones and
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hear voices. We've had dads like Mark Ireland, Chris Ryan,
Tom Bender, and Moore that are making big differences after
the passing of their sons. Chris Ryan, working with Helping
Fathers Heal, holds a global weekly meeting for fathers. Helping
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Fathers Heal is of course, part of Helpingparentsheal dot Org,
a group of now over forty thousand members of Shining
Light Parents that help each other through grief with a
whole bunch of resources, but they're the one organization that
believes in the after life. Of course, in this book,
I'm going to include some humorous stories because why not
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have a laugh. I'll have to go back in my records.
I know episode two o two. There's some funny things
in there from funerals and some other lighthearted stories. And
let's not forget pioneers like doctor Elizabeth Cooper Ross in
episode two o six. She is the person who first
studied and coined the stages of dying, the stages of grief,
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also the depression, the denial, the bargaining, the anger, the acceptance.
She gave all of that up when she got involved
with near death experiences and deathbed visions, especially witnessing countless
children accurately identifying deceased relatives. How about Ken Ring, who
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followed on from doctor Raymond Moody's near death experience research
and did a study of the experiences of blind people.
They've never had vision yet in that moment just after
death before returning, they had a three hundred and sixty
degree view of everything around them and could give accurate
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details about things that were still happening here on earth,
yet they never had vision. You know, I try to
squeeze in my stories whenever I can, So I will
share about my electronic voice phenomena recording at that retreat center,
just recording raindrops and playing it back. Before going to bed,
(46:35):
a voice said good night Sandra with whispers, good night,
good night, good night. Great people have studied the afterlife
and will continue to. Like doctor Carl Jung, he had
a near death experience himself. Of course, there's doctor Mark Pittstick,
doctor Raymond Moody, doctor Peter Fenwick. What are the stories
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you like most? Imagine you held this book in your hands,
a digest of all things afterlife, and you can open
the page see the table of contents. What would you
go to first? I think for me, I would go
to deathbed visitations and read some of those stories. I
especially like doctor Christopher Kerr, hospice physician who wrote the
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book Death Is But a Dream. There is so much
evidence that we go on, and yes they're compiled into
two hundred plus episodes of shades of the Afterlife. But
let's get this information to everybody. No matter how much
of a skeptic someone would be, they could read a
few pages and say this seems too good to be true,
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But all signs point to the reality of the afterlife,
that our consciousness goes on. At the moment we close
our eyes here on planet Earth, we open them again
in a beautiful place looking similar to Earth. All our
loved ones are there, even our past, this feeling of
unconditional love, and that we are home now. Of course,
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being Sandra, there's going to be some words in the
book about grief. It's the one thing we all go
through as human beings, and we're not trained for it,
We're not ready for it. They don't talk about it
in schools. So I'd love to give everybody an understanding
of why we grieve and what we can do to
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ease the pain and get to the other side. The
other thing, of course, I'm bound to include, is what
is the purpose of life? Why are we here? What
can we do to have the best time in life?
Whether life is an education for the soul? How can
we go out and get our money's worth out of life?
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How can we be more loving, more forgiving, more courageous,
being more of service to other people? All those things
wrapped into one. I'm getting very excited about this project,
but it will be a long labor of love. If
I were to take every episode so far, we'd have
something like two hundred and forty hours in this book.
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That's a little long, so I'll keep working on my
notes going through all two hundred plus episodes. And if
you have a moment, let me know your favorite stories
or if you have an experience you'd like to share. Again,
Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. Well, my friend, our
time together has come to an end. Please come visit
(49:40):
me at We Don't Die dot com. If you don't
yet have a copy of my book and you'd like one,
just enter your name and your email address at the
bottom of the page. There's some other free goodies there
for you as well. Come visit me on a free
Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included. We have month classes
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and so much to explore there. So in closing, I'm
Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
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Hi.
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I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical doubt and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. There's a
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few things I wish to do with you today. First,
have a little Sandra time, of course, but I want
to play some clips from folks that I spoke with
this past week. Their stories really moved me. First, it's
a beautiful spring day. As I record this. Mom and
I are getting our house painted. A nice guy named
Chris is outside painting as we speak, so you might
(01:35):
hear his ladders banging around a little bit. I'm sitting
at our kitchen table keeping an eye on everything that's
going on. The squirrels are out underneath the bird feeders
eating the sunflower seeds that have dropped, and I put
out a hummingbird feeder and it's quite active with the
beautiful little ruby throated hummingbirds that made a long flight
(01:57):
to come back to our home for the summer. You
may not know this, but I record Shades of the
Afterlife about two weeks before they air live for you.
So earlier today, Mom and I were watching TV and
the new Pope was elected, so he is now Pope
Leo the fourteenth, and I feel a sense of excitement
in the air. We don't talk religion on this show,
(02:19):
and I respect everyone's belief but I have this sneaky
suspicion that having the new Pope born in America might
get people interested that there is something more whatever you
want to call that divine light or God or the universe,
that there's something bigger than ourselves, that somehow we're all connected.
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I grew up spending almost every year of schooling at
Catholic school, so seeing this new pope elected, it's got
a little nostalgia for me. What else has happened since
the last time we were together. Well, on our last episode,
you heard that I published a new book with our
dear friend Got Milligan. Amazon actually released it live about
(03:04):
five days before they said they would. Scott called me said, hey,
our book is live and in just a matter of
a few hours our book, Conversations with Eric Life, Death
and the Afterlife through the Closed Eyes of a Trance Medium,
became number one in spirit communication in the United States,
the UK, and the Netherlands. So it's been an amazing
(03:28):
few days and we're still shocked and happy in all
those good things. Is the book about me? No? Is
the book about Scott No It's words about life, death
and the Afterlife that came through him as a trance medium.
Also earlier this morning, I received an email from a
mom who says she's a member of Helping Parents Heal
(03:49):
and has two sons who have crossed over. She says, Sandra,
I believe I found you and your wonderful messages through
helping parents heal and find your podcast and on Sunday
gatherings very uplifting and comforting. After listening to one of
your shows where you talked with doctor Tom Nimi, I
booked a session with him. I'm still so amazed at
(04:11):
how much it helped me. It's incredible. I told doctor Tom,
I can't wrap my brain around how much his sessions
have helped me. I could actually feel my son's presence
and their touch. I wanted to share this incredible experience
with you because I feel we are all so connected
and I have such a sense of peace after my
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sessions of IADC. Thanks for the love and light you
are bringing into the world. You are most welcome. All
I want to do is share, share good people, and
share things that make a difference. And beneath absolutely everything
that I do is the fact that we've all experienced
the pain of grief and if I can do anything
to help lift you or another out of that, I'm
(04:57):
going to do it. So more news coming f from me.
We are now well over two hundred episodes of Shades
of the Afterlife, and I was thinking, perhaps it's time
for me to write another book. And I'm just brainstorming
right now, but I realize I haven't kept good records
of what I've spoken about on each and every podcast.
(05:18):
So with the help of Google's Gemini, I'm going back
and uploading every transcript to find the nuggets of gold
that I think need to be shared in perhaps this
new book. It's going to take me a lot of
time to go through the two hundred plus episodes, but
while I was going through them, there were some stories
(05:40):
that I've forgotten about, stories that made a difference for me,
and I thought we can relive some of those together today.
The people I want you to hear from one is
Bo Williams and the other is Kia Schaeffer. I still
have my we Don't Die YouTube channel and I interview
people one on one and have close to five hundred episodes.
(06:05):
I still do that because I think it's important to
hear people's full stories. I played clips of them on
Shades the Afterlife. You know, the best stuff, but there
were some words that really struck me from these two.
Bo Williams is a man whose soulmate, the love of
his life, ended up taking her own life just one
(06:27):
year ago, and he does something called breath work to
connect with her. So I want to share with you
what he does and how he realized it. The other
person Kira Schaeffer. She's a book publisher with now eighty
books she's published. She's lived a tough life with many
moments that almost killed her, and there's been a thread
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through all of them, and that is at that moment
close to death. She didn't have a near death experience,
but she had an awe inspired experience, one that let
her know that there's something so much bigger than the
life we now live. So I'll play her words as
well for you today. You can find everything I've ever
(07:11):
recorded on my website We Don't Die dot com, of course,
but here on Shades of the Afterlife, I really want
to just give you the best to the best. Now,
how is it you came to listening to me today?
I find we human beings get interested in the afterlife
for a few different reasons. One we may have a
fear of dying, which is what brought me in. Another,
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being a loved one passes and we want nothing more
than to know that they have survived physical death. We
may also get a life threatening illness and be worried
what happens after we die? Does something happen after we die?
And that might bring you in, But also there might
just be that bit of curiousness. I think at a
(07:57):
certain age all human beings start asking the big questions.
I was just talking to my mom about this yesterday.
She says, what do you do if somebody is so
skeptical and they don't believe it? How do you convince them?
And I said, well, I don't try to convince them.
There's what's called closed minded skeptics that we're never going
to get through to, and there's open minded skeptics, probably
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like you and me, that we want to believe, but
we're also weary if things seem too good to be true.
Sometimes they are. I'm happy that my mom is now
at that open minded skeptic place and that I can
engage in these conversations with her. There's another way people
get involved, and this is something they don't choose to.
They might get sick or be in an accident and
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have a near death experience or some kind of an
out of body experience. Many who were previously atheists, suddenly
realize there's something more, suddenly have no fear of death,
suddenly want to make their life about helping other people.
Those are all after effects of near death experiences. I
don't want to have a near death experience because I'm
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sure it will involve some pain. So if we can
get these after effects by listening to shades of the afterlife,
that works for me. So let's start with some stories
of people who started their interest in the afterlife out
of a painful occurrence. We'll start with John Austin, who
we learned about on episode one hundred and seventy six.
(09:27):
By the way, we wouldn't be here today without John Austen,
because of his desire to find evidence of the afterlife,
started to look into mediums, and eventually the young Scott
Milligan came into his circle. And here we are today.
You see. John and Geraldine Austen lost to their son
Howard and one of his best friends in a terrible
(09:50):
train crash. They went looking for evidence of the afterlife,
and in their journey they met a medium named Doris
Fisher Stokes. In those days, people would sit in what
they called home circles and invite in spirits. They called
them seances. They would do what's called table tipping, where
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they put their fingertips lightly on the table. They'd ask
questions and the table would levitate, knock once on the
ground for yes and twice for no, and that was
spirit communication. Well. Medium doors Fisher Stokes told the Austins
that they would hold their own home circles and sit
(10:32):
on behalf of the spirit world. They met an incredible medium,
also by the name of Leslie Flint, who would close
his eyes in a darkened room and voices of loved
ones would seem to come out of mid air. They
heard their son Howard's voice through Leslie Flint. John and
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Geraldine did, in fact go on to create their home
circle where they did this table tipping loud bangs and
spoke to son Howard and his friend and said, is
that you boys. They had a tape recorder on during this,
and they had a black cat named Blackie, and as
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these bangs were going off in the room, the cat
was walking around in the darkness. At the end of
their seance, they played the recording back. When Geraldine said
is that you boys, a voice on the recording says yes, mom,
we're here, and after she said be careful of the cat,
the voice on the recording says, I won't hurt Blackie.
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John and Geraldine at one point needed a new carpet
for their home seances and found a young man to
install a red carpet. They inquired, did this young man
know about the afterlife and would he be interested in
sitting in the home circle. He was interested. Every time
they got together they would ask the table to point
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to the strongest medium. The table always signified John Austen
until this one time it acknowledged the carpet layer. That
young man is Colin Fry, a very famous medium in history.
Colin went off to do some big, incredible things as
a medium, including having his own television show, and it
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was time for a new medium to lead the circle.
And this is when fifteen year old Scott Milligan got
introduced to the world of spiritualism. Fascinating story. Just go
back to episode one seventy six and remember the name
Leslie Flint, the man who had voices appear in the
darkness of loved ones. If you wish to go back
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to episode one eighty eight. We celebrate him and I
even play some of these voices that were heard in
the dark. It's time for our break, and when we
come back, we're going to hear from Bo Williams and
his story of reconnecting through breath work. You're listening to
Shade's the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
(13:03):
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(13:24):
I'm Sandra Champlain and joining us now is Bo Williams,
author of One Year with My Soulmate, in which he
shares his profound connection with his late beloved Melanie and
the spiritual journey that followed. Bo's pre spiritual life included
many roles as a football player, actor, stockbroker, bartender, security personnel,
(13:47):
and screenwriter. Let's hear his story of reconnection through breathwork.
Here's Bo.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I've written five scripts and somehow got into the events
business and I was working I Can get a place
called the Buffalo Club, and in twenty fifteen, Melanie walked
in the door to one of my events. She was
probably twenty five years old at the time, and there
was just this magnetic electricity between us. The moment that
our eyes met, and it continued to persist all the
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way through our friendship, which was about a eight year friendship.
We lost touch for about three years. She was in
a relationship and alienated herself from her family and her friends.
We kept circling each other's orbit. Our first real date
was on May sixteenth, twenty twenty three, and I lost
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her on May eighteenth, twenty twenty four. It was really
one year with my soulmate. The first way that Melanie
started communicating with me was she was training to be
a breathwork therapist. She was sexually abused when she was
four years old and it never really worked through that.
At fifteen, when she started high school, she was taking
(15:00):
a real interest in boys for the first time, and
as those feelings started to come up, so did the
sexual abuse energy that she had suppressed. And her parents
couldn't figure out why she was struggling in school. Nobody
really knew, and she was very private and secretive. They
just thought she had ADHD. They put her on adderall.
She was on adderall for fifteen years, which I think
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pressed those feelings down a little bit deeper. Ended up
running away from her family, found herself in a toxic
relationship with a man that was she was twenty six
and he was forty four. I think maybe four years
into the relationship, she realized that she needed to get
out of the relationship and she needed to get off
the adderall. She told me she was on eighty milligrams
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of adderall a day. She found breath work, and through
breath work, she was able to clear that energy. Her
intuition was activated. She was starting to realize things about
her past, and she came to understand that the reason
why she was depressed, and she was fifteen years old,
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is because it was that suppressed sexual abuse trauma that
she had never dealt with. So she made that connection
and her goal was to help young girls who were
struggling with abuse and addiction. So she wanted to teach
breath work, but she had a real difficult time telling
her story. On our third date, she put me through
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a breath work session. So she brought me into breath work.
During our relationship, we would hold hands and we would
breathe together. I found her at the foot of our bed.
She had ripped my shotgun out of the closet and
she shot herself in the chest with it. And I
found her at the foot of our bed and the
first night that I stayed in our bedroom after her service,
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This is ten days later. I was curious. I read
Many Lives, Many Masters by Brian Weiss, and that book
blew my mind. I've always been curious about reincarnation. Energy
can neither be created nor to and I've always thought
about the idea that we come back, or at least
some of us do, if we haven't graduated yet. And
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so I'm lying in bed during a breath work session.
After about twenty minutes of meditation, I did David Elliott's
twenty eight minute meditation, which was who Melanie was training with,
and I said, Melo, are you here? This U four?
It surge of electricity shot through all of my chakras
and I'm like, this is crazy, no way. And I
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realized I could ask her you aswer you no questions,
and so I just started rattling him off. I was
so excited, but I realized I was running the questions together,
which was muddying the answers. And then I asked her,
I said, is it difficult for you to communicate like this?
And she said yes? And I said, would you like
me too far ind a medium? And there was a
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big yes, and then I started asking do you want
to see certain people in her life? And through one
of her breath work friends, I was led to a
woman in bro Glynn named Brandy. I think it was
the first reading for her family. When it's me and
Mel's family and her getting a chance to communicate directly
with us through Brandy, where Brandy's channeling her, that was
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a pretty powerful experience. After that realization, new forms of
communication opened up. It started with the surge in my chakras,
and then it was music. She somehow was taking control
of the YouTube algorithm and telling her story through YouTube
music videos or the Spotify songs, even songs at the gym.
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The signs and synchronicities, and I don't know how I
was able to recognize them. I think somehow the trauma
unlocked something in me. But my healing routine was waking
up at six o'clock in the morning every day, journaling,
listening to music, hit fitness at eight am. Then it
was ice bath for five minutes. Then it was writing
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six hours a day, writing the book, journaling everything that
was happening to me, and it was breathwork at night,
and initially in the early stages it was breath work
two three times a day because I was in so
much pain. The working out felt good, obviously, but anytime
a tsunami of sadness came through, it was breath work
that I used to clear that energy. Every day I
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woke up to the same nightmare that she wasn't there,
and it was just about trying to get to okay.
I do think breath work is a wonderful too. Like
I said, it really helped Melanie. When we first started dating.
She had a routine and the end of her routine
every night was a shower and then her putting on
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her essential oils and lying in bed and breathing for
thirty minutes. Ani Yama is the name. It's an ancient
breathing technique. You lie flat on your back. Sometimes you
hold stones, You put an eyemassk over your eyes or
eyepillows and it's one to the belly, two to the chests,
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and then exhale and it's repetitive and it goes on
for about thirty minutes. The longer you go, you start
to feel the energy coursing through your body. Starts as
a light vibration and it starts to get really strong.
And I've been to points where it really feels like
you could shoot lasers out of your fist. And essentially
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what you're doing is you're inviting your higher self into
your body and you're clearing any trapped energy that might
be in there. And when you invite your higher self in,
you're activating your intuition. It helps you to discover your
true path. I've had so many ideas and thoughts come
to me during breathwork. Chris wouldn't do a reading. That
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was the first guy that we spoke to, but he said,
are you a writer? Bow? And I said yeah. I
said you should get a journal and start journaling everything.
It's about tapping to you and really through breath work,
this whole process, the Sunflower Signals podcasts, the Butterfly Effect,
retreat one year with my soulmate, I really can attribute
everything that I've built in the last year to breathing.
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Every night, I can ask yes or no questions on something.
Am I supposed to shoot a podcast about this? And yes?
Am I supposed to put it on this date? Yes?
And the way that feels is it is like goosebumps,
but it's times a thousand. It's not like your typical
goosebumps with hair standing up on your arms. It's internal,
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it's goosebumps inside my body. And it's interesting that Melanie
was the one that taught me bathworks. So it's like
she gave me this gift and then she left me,
But she left me with a gift to pull me through.
And this is where things get really complicated. And I'm
not going to sit here and begin to understand how
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it all works on the other side, because that just
is not something I think that A We're not meant
to know everything that happens over there. But it's come
through music, it's come through mediums, it's come through featured photos.
Brandy told me something that was interesting. When truth hides
in the shadows, it can't help anybody. And I've been
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feeling the pressure to keep Melanie's story a secret. Not
being able to tell her story was a big reason
why she retreated. Three months prior to her passing, she
went back to the adderall she tried to go back.
The big song that's come through is say Yes to Heaven,
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Say Yes to Me by Randon Delray. I've tried to
do that, and I've committed to that and The other
thing is with not being able to go back. I
saw an interesting quote by Dick Gregory. It kept coming
through to me and my Instagram feed, and it said,
once you put on the magic glasses, you can't take
them off. Melanie was tapped into the Acastric records. She
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was having visions and they were heavy for and I
don't think she was vulnerable enough to where she felt
like it have those conversations with people that she was
close to, and she could have. That's the one thing
that I think that I would say to her if
she was still here, and I think that she knows now,
is that that wouldn't have scared me off. We're talking
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earlier about the way that I've progressed as far as
communicating with the other side. It was chakras, music mediums.
I've got twelve thousand photos in my cell phone. She
assembles featured photos for me every day with a new
message that in addition to Morse code, I get twitches
in my body, dots and dashes, and I taught myself
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Morse code, and that's really difficult to decipher. But when
I figure out what the message is, and now my
chakras aren't just going and during a breath work session,
they go. When I have the thought on what the
message that's coming through my arm or my hip or
my quad, it's all over my body that happens. That's
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something I'm still trying to figure out and get the
hang of the moors. Oh doesn't even find its way
into the first book because so much has happened to
me since the first book. The first book's kind of
a warm up. The second book is like, what, no way,
this cannot be real. But I think I set people
up for what comes in the second book.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
In the first book, So that was Bo Williams, author
of One Year with My Soulmate. I have to be
honest with you, I didn't really know about breath work,
but from what it sounds like, it forces you to
be in the present moment for a concentrated period of time.
He says, a half hour breathing in through your belly,
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breathing in through your chest, and then exhaling it. He
mentioned the name David Elliot, so of course I googled
David Elliott and I found he has a meditation that
ranges for me. There are seven fourteen, twenty one or
twenty eight minutes Pranayama Breath as we just heard about,
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and he's got a YouTube channel and the seven minute
meditation is on there, so just look up David Elliott
breathwork on YouTube. It's time for our break, and when
we get back, you'll hear another story from publisher Kira
and the moments of awe she experienced prior to death.
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We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
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Sandra Champlain. Next, I want to introduce you to Kia Schaeffer.
I found out about Kira through my friend Roseanne grew Norris,
author of the book Believe. Roseanne submitted a story for
a book called Synchronicity. One thing led to another and
I meet her publisher. It turned out Kira, who runs
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As You Wish Publishing with her husband Todd, has had
a series of terrible situations which has brought her to
the verge of death many times. Her story is unique
and I want you to meet her now.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
The first time that I thought I was going to die,
I was seven years old. I was pushed down on
the playground by one of the kids. I got knocked
down and I didn't get up. There was just this
big black period of time. I did eventually wake up
and I looked and I realized that I was alone.
But then I went inside and then all of a sudden,
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the headache started. So I had hurt myself really badly.
I got home and I was screaming, crying. If you
knew me, I was that person, I would not ever
scream cry. So my mother said, just go to sleep, Just.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Go to sleep.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And then there was a very long period. I felt
like I live an entire lifetime in darkness. It just
was so long. But I was conscious and I was
aware of it, but I was asleep to the outside
world because now I have a concussion. During that time
that I experienced that darkness, it was incredibly warm and
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it was incredibly peaceful. So even though my mind couldn't
wrap itself around any visual stimulation or hearing things or
any of that stuff, I do believe that I was
in that space between and connection to the divine, even
though I couldn't see it. I don't have a fear
of death. For me dying I definitely fear the loss
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of loved ones, but I do know where they go.
You just know that I've had six potential times that
I could have died. But I'll just share a couple
experience that I had prior to the moment I'm about
to share. They weren't great. I had severe anxiety. I
had migraines from my head trauma. I had lots of
different problems at home and not being seen, not heard,
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feeling just always.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
On the edge.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I self medicated with drugs and alcohol, anything that I
could find to help me with the anxiety that I felt,
and then it just compounded and it just everything worse.
If you turn to drugs or alcohol, you don't have
just one problem. Now you have two problems. So it's
a snake eating its tail. I finally got to the
point where I was like, something has to change in
my life, and my ex fiance at the time was
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pretty much a raging alcoholic. One night, I made my decision,
I'm moving on. I did a whole house clearing. I
was like, I am changing my ways, all right, But
I had this guy in my life, and I think
to myself, maybe he'll change as I change, as I
grow and know. So the night he almost killed me
was the time that I had my greatest awakening. But
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this felt like a major one for me because it
changed absolutely everything about who I am fundamentally, without going
into too much graphic detail. He was blackout drunk. He
beat me pretty severely, weirdly on my front porch. But
what was good about that is that I had a
neighbor that witnessed the whole thing. So when we went
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to court, he was there to testify and say, this
is what happened. Anyway, I'm laying on the ground. He's
just repeatedly kicked me in the head. I'm in and
out of consciousness, and I say, God, here's the deal.
You either let him kill me now, or I'll spend
my life in service, whatever way that looks like for
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you and for others. I had this feeling of a
deep knowing and I sat up. I felt no pain,
and psychologically and physiologically people say I was in shock,
but I wasn't in shock. Before the moment that I
said I give my life in service, it just flowed
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through me.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
The feeling.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I mean, I could feel it now even just talking
about the power of that. The true, incredible love, of
feeling of presence that only comes in that moment of
pure and total surrender. He sat up, and I went inside,
and I got the phone and I called nine one
one and I said, we're having a domestic disturbance, as
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calmly as anybody could ever talk about anything like that.
And he started screaming at me and headbutted me while
I was on the phone, and then I just said,
he just had buttoned me. I think I can drive.
I'm going to let him out so he can drive away.
Like it was just so bizarre and so calm and clear.
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That's when I truly knew that God existed and got
in the form of whatever we would call God, not
necessarily really religious symbolic God, but a truth. From there,
I learned that I could heal myself and process through things.
I stopped drinking and smoking and drugging, and I started
going to a healing center where this lady there who
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was incredible. She was reiki practitioner, master teacher, and she
taught me how to do regki. And so this was
almost twenty five years ago. I learned how to self
heal and put hands on myself in that kind of
thing deep in my connection with energy, and then from
there I started channeling and I started medium shipping. I
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understood where they were coming from instead of being scared
of them, like suddenly my father would appear in the
mirror in front of me. Along the way, I became
a hypnotherapist because I wanted the scientific backing of what's
happening in this energetic translation. So I wanted people to go, oh,
you're legit. One of the most recent times where I
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felt pretty close to transitioning was I had COVID and
I was stuck in a hotel. I was quarantined in
a hotel, and I probably should have been in the hospital.
I'm not normal, So I'm there and all of a sudden,
my vision starts to get a little funny, really fuzzy,
and I was what is going on. I'm looking at
this white sheet, you know how they are in the hotels.
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Everything is stark white. Look at this white sheet, and
all of a sudden, these patterns start coming up, and
I'm like, Okay, this is wild and I'm not understanding
what's going on. So I feel like I'm moving through
a doorway. So I turn off all the lights in
my room and I lay down and I look at
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the ceiling and it is an incredible light show, but
only a part of it is being shown to me
at one time. It's not like showing me the entire
vision of it. And I'm looking at all these brilliant colors.
It's like waves of shapes, and if you've ever studied
sacred geometry or any of that kind of stuff, it's
like they're just all crashing in on each other. I
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haven't done drugs in twenty five years, right, but I'm
in awe. I'm in a complete and utter awe. And
it's that moment where I'm like, this is death, this
is what's going to happen. I just knew it. I
just know it's a knowing, and this feeling of awe
continues to move over me. It's not necessarily peace, it's
not necessarily love. It is touching that infinite in a
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way that is undescribable, and I am overwhelmed with the
truth of it. And then I'm like, this might be it.
So I called husband Todd, and I said, hey, there's
some crazy stuff happened to me.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think I'm okay, but if I'm not just know
that I love you, and he goes to wake me too,
get you do af what's going on? So I'm like, no, I'll.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Let you know.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Just such a funny, weird experience. So then I go
went to the bathroom and my brain isn't working right
with what the physical world is doing. So then feel
or sense just like a portal, like a doorway opening up,
and I go, no, not without toat not without time,
and then everything stops, like my vision comes back to normal.
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Everything is back to normal, Everything is fine, And I
go and I lay down and I go to sleep
and I'm fine. I text hot and say I'm okay.
That was very hard to come back from. I'll be
honest because feeling and sensing that and touching that moment
of what I believe is truth of what will happen,
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it was hard to go.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now I gotta go and do the work, and I've
got to chop wood and carry water, and I've got
to do the thing, and I have to breathe in
and out, and I have to make money and live
and survive and thrive and be happy. When the feeling
of the most ultimate feeling of happiness already happened. It's
just so difficult to come back from them. So it
took me about six months to almost start to feel normal.
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And then after that, what interestingly happened was anytime anybody
in my life passage, which I have had a few
since then, I'm like, Oh, they are so happy right now,
they are so blessed in that moment. Right now, they
are so at ease right now, they are so loved
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and held right now, they are so in awe right now.
I'm jealous. I wish I was with them, But I
also know that it's not yet time. And so that
thread is that a feeling our sense are knowing that
this is a way station and we get to be
with each other for a short time until it's time
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for us to be called home. And that's the most
beautiful thing I think I've ever experienced in my life.
There is zero doubt in me whatsoever that the loved
ones of those who are listening to your program are
in absolute grace. And to me, it's just a deep knowing.
It's not just a kind of fanciful, oh they're in
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a better place thing. It's a much deeper and more
profound moment that I have with it. And it's hard
to tell people about that when they're in the grieving
process in some ways, because it can feel discounting or
maybe even diminishing on the burden that they are experiencing
the loss they've had. And I would never want that
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to happen. And in some cases it does the opposite,
like it does with me, where it's oh my gosh,
they're so lucky.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
They're so lucky, She says. Could you imagine being so
at peace with your belief in the afterlife that when
somebody passes, you think they're lucky and you know what
it is they're going to Maybe someday that will be
real for all of us. Kira spent twenty years as
a clinical hypnotherapist, and her and her husband and they're
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As You Wish Publishing, have published about eighty books. Several
are anthologies which they are looking for authors to submit
a chapter. She really has made her life about service
and making sure people's voices get heard. I enjoyed talking
with her, and it was very synchronistic how we met.
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We're going to take our next break and when we
come back, let's brainstorm a little for how we can
get this message out in the world and the different
reasons to believe in the afterlife, and maybe you'd like
to share with me your story for this new upcoming
book will be right back. You're listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a
(37:58):
m paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(38:20):
I'm Sandra Champlain, and as I mentioned in our first
segment together, I have been percolating an idea for a
comprehensive book of stories about the afterlife, and I'd love
your help. Perhaps you're a long time listener or short
term listener and you've got some favorite stories let me
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know what they are, or you yourself have had a
sign a near death experience or some interesting experience around
the afterlife that you'd like to share. Email me, would
you please. Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com is my
email address. I have been reviewing the past episodes very slowly,
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going through each and everyone, what the stories were, what
category they were in, and it's a big project. We
are well over two hundred episodes plus I have nearly
five hundred episodes of We Don't Diet Radio on my
YouTube channel, so there's a lot of work ahead for me,
but could you imagine. I think it would be a
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good sized book, broken into the different categories, just loaded
with stories and references about all things after life. And
I'm talking credible reasons to believe. There's nothing against people
that have beliefs and angels, spirit guides, et cetera. Nothing
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wrong with that, But I'm looking for those clear bits
of evidence, those signs from loved ones, those transcommunications, whether
by pictures or by electronic voice phenomena, the near death experiences,
especially the ones that can be verified deathbed visitors, automatic writing,
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doctors who have had extraordinary stories or extraordinary experiences. As
I'm going through the last forty, that's where I'm up
to the last forty. We've talked about things like terminal lucidity,
people who are virtually brain dead and then moments before death,
they come back to life. They can talk to their
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loved ones, but they're also seeing across the veil and
seeing loved ones in the afterlife. There's such thing as
we know trance and physical mediumship, which the world believed
in in the turn of the century and before, but
with so many frauds that came about this form of
mediumship disappeared and evidential mediumship arose. Perhaps you have had
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an interaction with a medium that gave you such clear
information that no one could possibly know. I'd love to
hear about it. There are signs and synchronicities from our
loved ones that can't be anything other than a clear
sign that they exist. There's after death communications of different kinds.
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There's the spontaneous ones that we've heard about not too
long ago. I remember a fellow that I worked with
at the races. He came into our dining tent and
he told me he had never told another person the story.
But when he gets in the zone and he could
be working on a car, out of the corner of
his eye, he sees his dad and the dog that
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he had growing up, of course, looking young and healthy
and well. And then as soon as his conscious mind
kicks in, the vision disappears. And what about doctor Matthew
McKay on episode one seventy seven, a psychology professor that
never believed any of this, but his own son was
murdered and he went looking for answers. Not only did
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he have one of these induced after death communications, he
now communicates with his son through automatic writing. The thing
nearest and dearest to my heart right now is I
had a session of IADC grief therapy myself and I
couldn't believe not only did the grief disappear, but felt
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that connection with my own dad. And who could forget
the great near death experiences where people's lives are transformed.
Doctor Tony remember him a lightning strike caused him to
die and only to come back and have the skill
of a classical pianist. The work of David Kestler. We
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celebrated on episode one hundred and eighty all the stories
of the dying being greed by their deceased parents or spouses,
or siblings, or friends or even pets, showing us that
even at the end of our life, we leave gracefully
and we don't leave alone. Let's not forget episode one
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eighty four with doctor Janet Pete Alatto talking about dreams.
We even get into lucid dreams and what we can
do to aid the process of connecting with our loved
ones through dreams. Do you remember episode one ninety with
the two moms, Carol Morgan and Nicole Clark. Carol Morgan
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uses a pendulum with letters and numbers and is able
to communicate with her son that way. In episode one
ninety one, we took a trip to Brazil and it's
a country that celebrates the afterlife and they're open about it,
unlike the rest of the world or most places in
the world. We want to believe that the afterlife is real,
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but we think people in our lives won't accept it,
so we keep our mouths shut. The truth is, it's
something like ninety percent of the people in the world
believe in the afterlife. We just need to talk about it.
Episode one ninety six, Joshua Lewis brought us the Hope
Spirit Box app something we can all use in our
phone to try to communicate with our loved ones and
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hear voices. We've had dads like Mark Ireland, Chris Ryan,
Tom Bender, and Moore that are making big differences after
the passing of their sons. Chris Ryan, working with Helping
Fathers Heal, holds a global weekly meeting for fathers. Helping
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Fathers Heal is of course, part of Helpingparentsheal dot Org,
a group of now over forty thousand members of Shining
Light Parents that help each other through grief with a
whole bunch of resources, but they're the one organization that
believes in the after life. Of course, in this book,
I'm going to include some humorous stories because why not
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have a laugh. I'll have to go back in my records.
I know episode two o two. There's some funny things
in there from funerals and some other lighthearted stories. And
let's not forget pioneers like doctor Elizabeth Cooper Ross in
episode two o six. She is the person who first
studied and coined the stages of dying, the stages of grief,
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also the depression, the denial, the bargaining, the anger, the acceptance.
She gave all of that up when she got involved
with near death experiences and deathbed visions, especially witnessing countless
children accurately identifying deceased relatives. How about Ken Ring, who
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followed on from doctor Raymond Moody's near death experience research
and did a study of the experiences of blind people.
They've never had vision yet in that moment just after
death before returning, they had a three hundred and sixty
degree view of everything around them and could give accurate
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details about things that were still happening here on earth,
yet they never had vision. You know, I try to
squeeze in my stories whenever I can, So I will
share about my electronic voice phenomena recording at that retreat center,
just recording raindrops and playing it back. Before going to bed,
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a voice said good night Sandra with whispers, good night,
good night, good night. Great people have studied the afterlife
and will continue to. Like doctor Carl Jung, he had
a near death experience himself. Of course, there's doctor Mark Pittstick,
doctor Raymond Moody, doctor Peter Fenwick. What are the stories
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you like most? Imagine you held this book in your hands,
a digest of all things afterlife, and you can open
the page see the table of contents. What would you
go to first? I think for me, I would go
to deathbed visitations and read some of those stories. I
especially like doctor Christopher Kerr, hospice physician who wrote the
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book Death Is But a Dream. There is so much
evidence that we go on, and yes they're compiled into
two hundred plus episodes of shades of the Afterlife. But
let's get this information to everybody. No matter how much
of a skeptic someone would be, they could read a
few pages and say this seems too good to be true,
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But all signs point to the reality of the afterlife,
that our consciousness goes on. At the moment we close
our eyes here on planet Earth, we open them again
in a beautiful place looking similar to Earth. All our
loved ones are there, even our past, this feeling of
unconditional love, and that we are home now. Of course,
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being Sandra, there's going to be some words in the
book about grief. It's the one thing we all go
through as human beings, and we're not trained for it,
We're not ready for it. They don't talk about it
in schools. So I'd love to give everybody an understanding
of why we grieve and what we can do to
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ease the pain and get to the other side. The
other thing, of course, I'm bound to include, is what
is the purpose of life? Why are we here? What
can we do to have the best time in life?
Whether life is an education for the soul? How can
we go out and get our money's worth out of life?
(48:53):
How can we be more loving, more forgiving, more courageous,
being more of service to other people? All those things
wrapped into one. I'm getting very excited about this project,
but it will be a long labor of love. If
I were to take every episode so far, we'd have
something like two hundred and forty hours in this book.
(49:17):
That's a little long, so I'll keep working on my
notes going through all two hundred plus episodes. And if
you have a moment, let me know your favorite stories
or if you have an experience you'd like to share. Again,
Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. Well, my friend, our
time together has come to an end. Please come visit
(49:40):
me at We Don't Die dot com. If you don't
yet have a copy of my book and you'd like one,
just enter your name and your email address at the
bottom of the page. There's some other free goodies there
for you as well. Come visit me on a free
Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included. We have month classes
(50:00):
and so much to explore there. So in closing, I'm
Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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