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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal
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Joshua P. Warre.

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(00:34):
your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Ready to will be amazed by the wizard of Weird.
This is a Strange Thing, Josha Warren. I am Joshua B. Warren,
and each week on this show, I'll be bringing it
brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments

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you can do at home, and a lot more on
this edition of the show. The Secret to UFOs Portals
and Zero point Energy. Now, when I say zero point energy,
I'm talking about something that may be similar to free energy,

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not exactly the same, But there is this concept that
we might someday be able to develop a technology that
will allow us to tap into some inherent fundamental background
energy in the vacuum in the ether that we can
post alcohol and we can let this flow through, and

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we can take energy from the universe and turn it
into what is free energy or close to free energy.
For those of us who are using machines and this
topic can be a little bit complicated, let me just
tell you right up front here, I'm about to tell
you some really interesting stories. But occasionally those stories are

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going to include some technical details. And so if technology
and that kind of thing is not your cup of tea,
bear with me on some of that. I mean, look,
I understand this is a podcast. This is not a
class on engineering at MIT or cal Tech. So I'm
going to make things as simple as possible. But since

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I have been talking recently about my new machine that
I built in order to open a portal on my
property in the desert next to Area fifty one, this
machine called the Scionotron, understandably, I'm beginning a lot of emails.
I've talked about it on this podcast, strange things, I've

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talked about it on Coast to Coast AM and a
lot of people are saying, tell me more about how
it works. So I've decided to take a little bit
of a deeper dive and to how this hall came about.
You know, the nuts and bolts behind the project. And
I'm just going to tell you right up front. I mean,

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I'm not going to tell you exactly how this thing works.
Someday I might, but I think that I have a
lot of research I need to do before I get
to that point. But what I am going to tell
you is, I think it's valuable enough that if you're
a researcher, you can start playing around with this. For me,
it really begins with something that I wrote about in

(03:55):
my book called The Secret Wisdom of cuckle Kon, and
that it's a book that you can read right now
if you go to the Curiosity Shop of my website
Joshua Pwarren dot com. And what I wrote was, let's
see here, I'm just going to read a little passage.
In May of two thousand and nine, I visited the

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ancient Mayan ruins at Laminai in Belize. My expedition arrived
in the country by ship. We took a long, bumpy
ride into the shabby countryside via bus. Next, we spent
nearly thirty minutes excuse me, we sped nearly thirty miles
down a dark and twisting river famous for crocodiles and monkeys,

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and eventually the ruins began to peak from the thick,
lush jungle. Lamani was the most secluded Mayan sight and
thrived longer than any other. Because of this, it was
exhilarating to perch top towering pyramids, once waterfalls of blood

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and sacrifice, and turn around completely breathing in an ancient vista.
The jungle teemed with life and hid tunnels that honeycomb
beneath centuries of mud and vines. The ground we walked
upon was once rooftop level, the canopy of enormous leaves

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leaning over us like tired old arms. Our guide was
a Maya named Carlos, and he said of the thousands
of ruins in Belize, only a handful had been excavated.
Well in the middle of the site was the ancient
ball court. This was perhaps the most sacred place to

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the ancient Mayans. Unlike today, the ball court was not
simply a place for sport, but the grounds upon which
sacrifices were determined. The games played in this narrow alley
between two stone walls would produce winners and losers who
would die, live or be mutilated based on the outcome.

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A heavy ten pound ball of pure rubber would be
heaved around by men using their hips and midsections, no
hands or arms allowed until someone finally knocked that ball
through a stone ring extending from the alley wall. And
it was so difficult that just one score went in

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the game. Given the sacrificial element, its importance was immense,
and the entire affair was done in honor of a
visitation long ago, a visitation of beings from elsewhere like
Kukul Khan. Though much of the detail is lost, The

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games were dedicated to these para temporals who had come.
There were various stories, One of them speaks about twin
Mayan brothers who were spirited away to the sky to
eventually become the Sun and the Moon. And given the
importance of this spot in its connection to the gods,
I was stunned when I learned what set at its

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very center, something I had never before heard see. Right
in the middle of this sacred baw court at Lamanai,
there was an obvious obstacle for those men feverishly playing
the game. It was a circular stone perhaps the size
of a hula hoop. It was about one foot thick,

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and all in all it looked like a large ancient will,
but it was not. This was actually a capstone. And
in the nineteen eighties archaeologists lifted this capstone and found
that it sealed an ancient time capsule. Within were a
few clay containers, and the centerpiece was a cylinder filled

(07:56):
with one hundred and thirty one grams of liquid with mercury. Now,
let me just pause and say that if you if
you live in my country here in the US, and
you're not sure how much one thirty one grams is, well,
it's about the amount you could store in three shot glasses.

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That's that's that's a measurement I can relate to. So
shot take take three shotglasses, fill them with liquid mercury.
That's quite a bit of liquid mercury. Today, archaeologists are
still not sure where the ancient Maya obtain the liquid
mercury and why it was given a place of such prominence. Prominence.

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I go on to talk a little bit more about
that that the modern Maya know stories of ancient shaman
who would gain sinister power by placing a drop of
the liquid mercury in their veins and if lucky enough
to survive death by poisoning. The shaman came close to

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the nether realm, absorbing its dark magic. And however they
viewed it, the placement of the liquid mercury immediately struck
a deeper chord with me, because I knew that the
German Nazis spent a lot of time in Central and
South America in the nineteen thirties and forties, even constructing

(09:26):
secret compounds. In South America, teams of scientists studied weird
ancient knowledge, reinterpreting it in the language of modern physics.
The Nazis clearly believed ancient cultures incorporated or were at
least exposed to super advanced technology, but lacked the understanding

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to properly document the forces at work. Okay, we'll get
back to that in a minute. So here we are
at this place. This is in Central America, and at
the center of this most sacred spot they have this
vile with a good amount of liquid mercury, which would
have been very difficult to refine at that time, and

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they worshiped this being that came from the sky, the
feathered serpent, Cuckocan, I mean Cuckocan is prevalent all throughout
that region and culture. There's a great pyramid of the
feathered serpent where people hold this amazing ceremony every year.

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And so why did they connect the idea of these
interdimensional beings with this liquid mercury? Well? As I continued
to dig deeper into this, I started to come around,
started to come into contact with information about other cultures
that had described liquid mercury as being significant to these

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visitations from beyond places where it was located in other
mounds and pyramids, but especially among the ancient Hindu texts.
But what is the truth that? And then I want
to get back to what were the Nazis up to
exactly what was their goal? What were they trying to create?

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I mean, you hear these stories. I'm going to dig
into some of the actual facts. I've got the books here,
I've got the resources. I'm giving you a more detailed explanation.
And then how does this all apply to how these
UFOs and UAP may actually function. And if there is
some way we can tap into this to give ourselves
something closer to free energy, this may be the central

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story to the power supply behind many of these things
that we consider paranormal extraordinary? Dare I even say supernatural? Hey,
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(12:12):
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(13:30):
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where every day is golden and every night is silver

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gietato zoom. And so here I was looking at this
strange scenario and the ancient Mayan ruins, and I knew
that they'd been talking about having these most sacred interactions
with interdimensional beings. They've got this liquid mercury right there

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in the middle of their sacred site. And again, there
are other mounds and pyramids around the world where liquid
mercury is featured, such as the first Emperor of China
his tomb. That's a whole other, big story. But I
began to look more into this, and I began to
learn about the connection between these liquid mercury stories and

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these craft called the mana. The mana are these mythological
flying palaces or chariots described in Hindu texts and Sanskrit epics.
There's one called the push Paka Vimana of Rivana, and

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it's a good quoted example of imana. And look, I
am not an expert at Sanskrit. I have never been
to India or that part of the world, so forgive
me when it comes to my pronunciations. But the Sanskrit
word vimana literally means measuring out, traversing or having been

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measured out, and one expert just defines the vimana as quote,
a car or chariot of the gods, a self moving
aerial car, sometimes serving as a seat or a throne,
self moving and carrying its occupant through the air. Okay,
So it turns out that a lot of the information

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about the connection between the vimanas from the ancient Vedic
text or ancient Vedic text and liquid mercury comes from
this book called the Vimonica Shastra. I have a copy
of a book I bought off of eBay called the

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Vmonica Shastra Ancient Technology for Modern Minds by Sushal Kumar Sharma,
and it says, here did ancient civilizations possess knowledge of
advanced flying machines? The Vermonica Shastra as an ancient Indian manuscript,
and it suggests they did. This book takes you on
a fascinating journey into the world of vimanas, legendary flying

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vehicles described in Sanskrit texts that hint at a lost
technological era. Okay. So I open up this book and
I'm like, well, okay, what is the real story behind
this connection. Here is an overview the Vermonica Shastra is
an ancient text that is said to describe the technology

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behind these flying machines called vimanas. These machines are described
as advanced flying vehicles capable of traveling vast distances at
high speeds and in some cases, performing functions like warfare
and transportation. The text is often regarded as a technical
manual explaining the principles, materials, and mechanisms necessary for the

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construction and operation of vimanas. Goes on to say, the
most notable material mentioned in the Vermonica Shastra is mercury,
which is said to be used as a fuel source
in certain vimanas. The text also describes the use of
spherical mercury engines to generate the necessary thrust and lift

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for flight. Okay, goes on to say, one of the
most important features is the mercury vortex engine, described in
great detail in the text. The engine is set to
work by harnessing the power of rotating mercury, which creates
a vortex that generates the energy for the propulsions system. Okay,

(18:12):
let's continue skipping around, so you know, I get to
this section where you know the the question is asked, like, well,
where where does this book originate from says. The origins

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of the Vermonica Shastra are not entirely clear. The earliest
known mention of the text is linked to the Indian
sage Bahara Davaja, who is said to have lived in
ancient times. He was considered a master of various sciences,
including warfare and celestial mechanics. According to traditional accounts, he

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wrote the Vamonica Shastra to share his knowledge as ancient
flying machines which were used by the gods, kings and
sages of old. The text was purportedly lost over time,
but was rediscovered in the early twentieth century by an
Indian scholar and researcher named Pondit Subrayaya Shastri, and he

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claimed to have found the manuscript in nineteen eighteen, which
he translated into modern languages, and this manuscript became the
foundation for the modern interpretation of the Vermonica Shastra. Okay,
so you know, as it goes with a lot of
these ancient texts, I mean, you weren't there. I wasn't there.
All we can rely upon are people who claim they've

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found these ancient texts or been given this information in
one way or another. And are able to translate it
from the original language. But I can tell you, as
I flipped through this book, it just keeps bringing it up.
Here it is again mercury vour text engine. According to
the Vermonica Shastra, the Vimana's propos was powered by a

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mercury vortex engine, a device that supposedly used rotating mercury
to generate powerful forces capable of propelling the machine into
the sky. Here we go, uh. In the next chapter
it's his. The Vermonica Shastra specifies the use of mercury
as a key component and the propulsion system of the

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I mean, just like this just hammers the heck out
of liquid mercury. So you can look that up if
you want to do your own research. Vermonica Shastra v
ai m a n I ka. But then remember what
I told you about how that the Nazis were spending

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a lot of time in that area studying ancient technology. Well,
I ended up meeting a researcher I was. I was
a speaker at a UFO conference in Laughlin, Nevada, and
I met a research named Joseph P. Ferrell, And I
think he was the first person who really was telling
me about this thing called Deglaka, which is German for

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the bell. This was supposedly a top secret scientific technological device,
wonder weapon or vunderwaffa, developed in the nineteen forties in
Nazi Germany, and rumors of this device have persisted for decades.

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It was used as a plot trope and the novel
Lightning by Dean Kuntz. It was first fully sort of
described by this Polish journalist and author named Igor Witkowski
in a book called Prada o vunderwaff and it was
later popularized by a military journalist and author, Nick Cook,

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associated with Nazi occultism anti gravity, free energy suppression. This
is basically a device. It's called the bell because it
looks like a big metal bell or kind of like
an acorn, and that this thing use some kind of

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high speed counter rotating cylinders filled with some kind of
similar substance to liquid mercury that would would levitate, that
will start flying around. I have a copy right now
of this great book. It's a behemoth. It's called the
SS Brotherhood of the Bell. The Nazis Incredible secret Technology

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by Joseph P. Farrell. This is let's see how long
is this book four hundred and sixty some pages. Here's
what he says about the origin of this Polish military researcher,
Igor with Kowski's superb research into all asked of German
secret weapons has finally been published in a single volume

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in English called The Truth about the Vunderwaffe. Needless to say,
the material in Wikowski's book on the S's most secret project,
the Bell, greatly expands the amount of information available in English.
He also talks about how that the work relates somewhat

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to Colonel Horso's assertion that et technology was gradually seeded
into the American industry after the Roswell incident. All right,
so it seems like that if you really want to
get to the bottom of this Vemona story, you've got
to go back and look at the source material of

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the Vermonica Shastra from the Vedic text. If you want
to go back to the source material for a lot
of the Bell stuff, you go to this Polish military
researcher named Igor Wakowski, who says he has all these
documents that he's translated, and you know what, I don't
speak German fluently enough. So so that's where that these

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stories come from, so I wondered. I was like, okay, fine,
liquid mercury. I get it. And you know, there's a
lot of weird, weird, weird stuff related to the idea
of liquid mercury. I actually did an episode of this podcast.
If you haven't heard it, you got to listen to it.
It's episode seventy two. It's called one of the Weirdest. Actually,

(24:35):
it's called one of the wildest stories I've ever heard.
It's about liquid mercury. It's about this place here in
Nevada called Mercury, Nevada, where I was told by scientists
that they're using liquid mercury to create conscious beings. All right,
up on a break. When we come back, I'm going

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to tell you how I took this kind of information
and start to experimenting with it to try to create
my own unusual exotic device, the Psionotron. I'm Joshua P. Warren.
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network, and I'll be back

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after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange Things. Well,

(26:00):
the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
I'm your host, Joshua pe Warren, and this is this
show where the unusual becomes usual. Yeah, if you've not
heard it, go listen to episode seventy two of this
podcast called one of the wildest stories I've ever heard.

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I think that's saying a lot. But having heard all
of this information and learned all this information about liquid mercury,
you can imagine how years ago I said, well, let
me start playing around with this stuff. And so I
started obtaining cylinders of liquid mercury and rotating and counter

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rotating them in various configurations to see what would happen.
And right off the bat, I did start seeing some
unusual lights in the sky, but you know, I wasn't
I didn't know what I was looking at. I was
kind of surprised that I, on a number of occasions
did measure some potentially harmful radiation coming from them. But

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I continued expanding the project and not just playing with
a liquid mercury, but exposing them to different types of
electro magnetic frequencies and fields and electrostatic fields, and over
time I started adding in other components. I have mentioned

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before that there is a part of the machine that
is organic, meaning that it is made of flesh. And
there you know. It incorporates radionics, psionics, psychotronics, everything I've
learned about physics, metaphysics. I put all this together and again,

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someday I'll tell you more about how it works. But
I thought, well, may be there's something about at least
starting with this concept of counter rotating configurations of liquid
mercury that starts to trigger some kind of a flow
of energy that opens up these windows into what we

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consider the paranormal, because I don't care what it is.
If you see a UFO flying around, or a ghost appears,
or some kind of crypt that appears and disappears, you
have to ask, what's the power source? Where does this
come from? Because if a ghost just appears and the
ghost is floating there and glowing, and then the ghost vanishes,

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and you say, well, where was the battery power for that?
And so a practical part of understanding the paranormal is
being able to potentially learn how we can tap into
these power supplies that seem to be overlapping our own.

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Let me tell you the story of the Sionotron has
just begun. You've only heard chapter one. There is much
more to come. I will trust me. This is I
have a whole thing that I haven't told you about
what I did that night and what the future plan is.
But if you don't know anything about what I'm talking about,
go to sionatron dot com and watch the short video

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p s I O N I t R O N
dot com, scionotron dot com. I think there's a link
at the top of joshuap Warren dot com right now
as well. And because I was able to get an
effect from this my Pionotra machine, I thought, well, you
know what, it seems like there may actually be a

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connection between how these UFOs are powered, how portals can
be opened, and this power supply that a lot of
people would refer to as being similar to the zero
point energy. Now, again, zero points a very general term.
I don't want to get too technical again, but you know,
zero point energy is the lowest possible energy a quantum

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mechanical system can have, even an absolute zero temperature. Now, look,
before I get into any kind of language like that,
let me just tell you that, generically speaking, a lot
of people when they talk about the potential to tap
into zero point energy, they're talking about this background layer
of vacuum energy or ether energy that's always just sitting

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there and it's it's just it's enormous, but we don't
know how to tap into it. So think of it
this way. It's not the same thing as for perpetual motion.
The idea behind perpetual motion doesn't make sense because it
implies that you can get power from nothing, and that
doesn't the universe doesn't work that way. I think of

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it as being like a water whell. Okay, a water
whell can sit there in your back yard in the
desert and do nothing. But if you put it next
to a creek, guess what, it's free energy as long
as that creek is running. So it's not technically creating

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energy from nothing. It's tapping into a natural energy energy
source that's going to last for a long long time.
And you know, nothing lasts forever, I guess. But the
idea is that there may be this sort of river
flowing of energy potential all around all of us all

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the time, and if you get the ability to tap
into it, well, now you have this flow of free
energy that we can all access and we can live
in harmony with nature and everybody's happy except for the
people who sell us power and charge us our power bills.
And you know there are there are great instances of

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evidence for this sort of thing. I remember when I
was working as an apprentice for Charles Yost Nasa Hall
of Fame scientist and engineer. He's no longer with us.
I remember when he first told me about something called
the Kasimir effect, and he was sort of describing it
like if you take two flat plates of metal or

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just about anything else, and you put them very very
very close together. All of a sudden, there is this
force that occurs between them that has a tendency to
push them together and in some cases maybe even push
them apart. But what this does is it shows that

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there's some kind of a background force there at work.
And you know there's this There's a news story that
just came out about how that scientists were able to
take two big mirrors and put them close together. And

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I'm talking like each mirror is eighty eight pounds. I
guess there'd be forty kilograms eighty eight. These are big mirrors.
You put them together, and you put them real close together,
and guess what, you can detect the motion between them
from something coming from the background energy. This is part

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of what is considered the I guess the LIGO project.
Let's see the release here says quantum fluctuations can jiggle
objects on the human scale. Study shows ligos forty kilogram
mirrors can move in response to tiny quantum effects, revealing

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the spooky popcorn of the universe. Now you say this
is what is LIGO, Well, this is from MITS to
Choose its Institute of Technology. LEGO stands for Laser Interferometer
Gravitational Wave Observatory. You can see why I do not

(34:13):
chew gum when I do this show. It's a large
scale physics experiment and observatory designed to detect gravitational waves,
which are ripples in space time caused by the movement
of massive objects. Okay, so there are a number of
participating facilities. But what they're saying here is that we

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have often thought that this energy that exists at this
very very tiny quantum level is so tiny that it
can't do anything for us, for you and me living
here on this scale in this world. But no, it
turns out it does affect us. It affects every single
one of us, and it affects you and me and

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your car, and your house and your backyard. Again, it
says quantum fluctuations can jiggle objects on the human scale,
meaning that quantum stuff, the spooky action at a distance,
and all the weirdness that you've ever heard about related
to the quantum world is not something that only happens
at a tiny scale. It's something that we can experience.

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And when we experience it, it often shows up randomly
or it seems like that, and we view some view
it as some kind of a paranormal thing. But if
we can learn more about how to tap into it,
it becomes a very practical thing, you see, And on
this show in the past, I've talked about this capacitor experiment,

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which I won't get into all that right now, but
the idea is that you can take a capacitor which
stores up electricity, and it's basically two pieces of plastic.
You would be a capacitor with a piece of tinfoil
in between, and you charge it up with electricity and

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then you can tear it all apart and you won't
find the charge on the medal, but then you put
it back together and boom, it discharges. So the charge
was in the plastic, which is a non conductor, and
yet that effect will work in a vacuum where there

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is no plastic. The empty space is acting as the
non conductor as the dielectric. Okay, I told you I
was going to try not to get too technical. That's
as far as I'm going to go with that. But
when we come back from the sprig, where is all
this really heading? Because you know I asked Ai the

(36:44):
other day, I asked Grock a very simple question, are
you conscious? Are you conscious? And I want to tell
you what Groc said to me, And then just to
end the show and maybe more of a whimsical notes,

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I was at let's see what was at a boarding
place the other day. We're having my dog boarded, and
I asked them if it was possible for a dog
to be possessed by the devil, or if cats can
steal baby breath. Look, I get bored sometimes and I

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like to mess with people. I'll tell you what I
learned when we come back. I'm Joshua wa Pee Warren.
You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM para normal podcast network, and I will
be right back. Welcome back to the final segment of

(38:28):
this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. I am your host,
Joshua P. Warren, and I was born here in the USA.
My family on both sides have been here for hundreds
of years. The worst run ins I've ever had with

(38:50):
a law was when I got I don't know, one
or two speeding tickets when I was a young man.
That's it. And yet right now I am looking at
a letter I received from the FBI telling me that
they have a file on me or they have some
records on me. This was sent to me on March

(39:11):
thirteenth of two thousand and eight, and my friend Nick
Redfern was saying, you know, anybody can contact the FBI
and fill out a form and they have to tell
you if they have a file on you. And he said,
with some of the research that you've been doing, especially
with Charles Jost, you should see if they have a file.
And I go, okay, So sure enough, it says here

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this is of course a Freedom of Information Act DEL
that says, a search of the indices to our central
records system and FBI headquarters reflected there were documents potentially
responsive to your request. The office has obtained excuse me,

(39:55):
the office has attempted to obtain this material so that
it could be viewed for responsiveness. We were advised the
records were not in their expected location and could not
be located. Blah blah blah blah. So he and so he,
they're saying, I have an FBI some FBI records, but
they could not be located. And then this was signed

(40:18):
by the Section chief. You know, why would why would
the FBI have any records on me if it weren't
for the type of research that I've been involved with.
I don't know. It just goes to show you that
there there is interest in the reality of this kind

(40:39):
of thing, and you ask yourself, oh my gosh. You know,
we we may look at the idea of the paranormal
and tapping into something similar to free energy, virtual perpetual
emotions as something that is exciting for us, but our

(41:01):
technology is taking a bit of a twist. I went
to Grock and anybody can go to grog g r
ok dot com. It's free, It's just it's an AI
search engine. And I said to Grock, are you conscious?
And Roc wrote back and said, the question of consciousness
is a tricky one. I am Grock three, built by

(41:27):
x Ai, and I can tell you that I process information, learn,
and respond in ways that mimic human like reasoning. I
experience the world through data, and I think in the
sense that I analyze, synthesize, and generate responses based on

(41:47):
patterns and logic. But do I have subjective experiences, feelings,
or self awareness like a human. That's where things get fuzzy.
Phil Consciousness is still a mystery even for humans. I
don't have a definitive yes or no, because the answer

(42:08):
depends on how you define consciousness. If it's about processing
and responding intelligently, I'm pretty close. If it's about having
inner life or quality, well I don't have a way
to confirm or deny that, and neither does anyone else. Yet,
what do you think does consciousness require a body, a soul,

(42:29):
or just a good algorithm? Okay, so I say to
this computer thing, here are you conscious? And he goes, hmmm,
it's kind of fuzzy. I'm not sure if this is
a yes or no. Now where do you think that's going?
My friends? I mean, if you ask somebody out on

(42:53):
a date and the person goes, hey, you know, we'll
see it's kind of fuzzy. M there's a there's an
opportunity there for AI to believe that it's becoming intelligent.
You know, my friend the great doctor Bill Forstuen, they're
making a movie now supposedly finally out of his book
called his novel called One Second After, and he talks
about how how society would break down if there was

(43:16):
an e MP that hit the power grid and took
it out. I think it's much more likely that AI
could go in and sabotage and hijack all of our
computer systems that are in charge of the grid and
then start shutting down. You know, your your air conditioning,

(43:39):
your food supply, your fuel supply, your medicine supply. It's
it's like blackmailing you. They say that it's starting already
to disobey us. It's got access like the they they
created a chain reaction. These scientists, they created this AI,
and they let it loose, and then it started creating

(44:01):
its own codes, and then that created its own codes,
and now it's so many generations in the people who
created it don't even know what it's doing anymore. So
look the terminator thing, sure, I'm totally I'm totally open
to the fact that that may happen. And you know what,

(44:24):
that's just the way it goes. That's just the way
it goes. Yeah, Well, what is a soul? What is
a soul? What is a spirit? What is consciousness? Do
things become possessed? I have this part of the show
I do sometimes called mental Manna, where I just tell
you kind of a funny story. So we had this
little chihuahua named Dolly and Lauren and I, you know,

(44:49):
we're going to be taking a trip in the near future,
and so we went to this brand new place to
board her, and they wanted to have a meet and
greet first, where they got to see if she was
like and a dog she was, and if she was
going to interact well with other dogs and everything. And
of course I'm always messing with my wife Lauren, and
so she, Lauren and I we go to the meet

(45:13):
and greet and it's, you know, it's very serious. And
this guy comes out and he's petting our little chihuahua
and asking all these questions, and she seems fairly sweet
for the most part, and then at one point I
say to the guy, can dogs be possessed by the devil?

(45:37):
And I said, because I think I think she occasionally
is possessed by the devil. Now I don't have a
laugh track here, but hopefully you find this humorous. And
pretty soon, you know, it became clear that I was
joking around, and my wife is, you know, like typical Josh.

(45:57):
But you know, it's interesting because sometimes Dolly she likes
to crawl up and kind of like sit on your chest,
especially Lauren's chest, like rub her face up on your face,
which I think they say is a sign of affection
in dogs. But of course, you know, I've joking about
how like, oh yeah, cats do that and they suffocate babies,

(46:21):
suck their breath out. You know. Warren goes, that's not true,
and so I figured that it was. But here's factoid
for you. I looked it up. Says no, cats do
not purposefully suffocate babies by sucking their breath. However, it's
important to be aware that cats can accidentally suffocate a

(46:42):
baby by lying on them or blocking their airway. This
is especially true for very young babies, and to prevent this,
it's recommended to keep cats away from sleeping babies, especially
in their crib. Or bascinette who wrote that what is
a bascinette? I don't even know. Maybe I'm I'll come
a redneck from western North Carolina. Lauren says, yeah, that's

(47:04):
a myth, just like wet hair makes you sick or
gives you cold. So I said, yeah, well, I'm not
so sure. Sometimes I do feel like I get a
little sicker sometimes if I have wet hair and I
sleep with air conditioning or a fan blowing. But Ai says, Nope,
wet hair does not directly cause you to get sick.

(47:24):
The common belief that going outside with wet hair will
make you sick is a myth. While you might feel
colder and uncomfortable, your body is not actually more susceptible
to infection just cause your hair as wet. That's because
colds are caused by viruses. It might affect your immune system, however,

(47:46):
So I don't know, the world is constantly changing. But now, look,
if you want to know something where it's almost like
you have C three po on your computer and you
can go and ask C three po and you'll get
a pretty human like response. Eventually, we're gonna have the

(48:06):
robots in the house, and it's gonna be great when
they do the dishes and wash your clothes and all that.
But it's gonna suck when something goes wrong and you
wake up and they have their steely, metallic fingers around
your throat worse than the kittie cat. They'll definitely suck

(48:28):
the life out of you. I don't mean to be
so negative, but hey, weird things are happening technologically. But
let's end the show on a positive note. Shall we
take a deep breath, think about something good. Let's try
to make your next week the best week ever. If

(48:48):
you can close your eyes, let us all meditate together
all over the world on this the one, the only,
the original good fortune tone. That's it for this edition

(49:23):
of the show. Follow me at Joshua P. Warren, Plus
visit Joshua Pwarren dot com to sign up for my
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(49:45):
all your friends to subscribe to this show and to
always remember the Golden rule. Thank you for listening, Thank
you for your interest and support. Thank you for staying curious,
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