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Welcome to the iHeartRadio Coast to Coast a M Paranormal
podcast Network and Strange Things. The Wizard of Weird is
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out conducting peculiar experiments this week, but he's unlocked his
vault to share this perfectly preserved specimen of strangeness.
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Get ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird.
This is Strange Things Women's.
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Joshua Warren, I am Joshua B. Warren and each week
on this show, I'll be bringing you Brandon new mind
blowing content, news exercises, and weird you can do at home,
and a lot more. On this special edition of the show,
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I have a new haunted.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Doll and his name is Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I have been wanting to tell you about this for
a long time. I've been saving it up, and that's
why I think in part this is a special show.
Kennedy was given to me by a great friend, and
soon that friend is going to come on this podcast
as a surprise guest and tell you the story behind
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this most intriguing doll. But first, I am recording this
in October, and it is now a tradition for me
every October to tell you this tale, to set the tone,
to create the mood, to tell you the story of
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Stingy Jack. Several centuries ago, amongst the green countryside and
superstitious towns and villages in Ireland, there lived a drunkard
known as Stingy Jack. Jack was known throughout the land
as a deceiver, a manipulator, and a dredge on his community.
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On a fateful hallowy night typical of Jack, he was
drunk and wandering through the countryside in the moonlight, when
he stumbled upon a shadowy body lying in his path,
and to his surprise, the body, with an eerie grimace
on his pale face, rose suddenly, and the figure said
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to stingy Jack, I am the Devil, and I have
finally come for you. You knew this day would come. What
do you want with me, exclaimed Jack? I'm here to
take your soul down to hell, said the horrible, grinning figure. Well,
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Jack seemed to accept his fate, but he said to
the devil, then, please, please at least give me one
last strink of l before I go. Well, the devil,
always up for a good time, said well, yes, fine,
then let's go to the pub for your last le. Well,
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the two had a good old time, drinking up a
storm for hours. Finally the tab came to but Jack
did not have a penny to his name, so he
said to the devil, well, you're a great and powerful magician.
Let's see if you can turn yourself into a silver
coin we can give this barkeep. Well, the devil was
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happy to show off and oblige, and he transfer formed
himself into a silver coin. Jack quickly stuffed the coin
into his pocket where Jack always kept a crucifix, and
this trapped al satan. You see, his power was gone
next to a crucifix, And the devil begged Jack to
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let him go free. But Jack said, I know my
inevitable fate, but I'll only release you if you grant
me ten more years, just ten more years on this earth.
The devil had no choice but to agree. Well, you
think old stingy Jack would have changed his ways, but
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he did not. Some say he got even worse. But
time flies by, and Halloween night, ten years later, old
Jack was wandering the moonlit countryside when once again his
old friend, the devil, appeared, next stood a dark tree.
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It's been ten years, growled the devil. Now it's time
to go Jack. And Jack bowed his head and said,
all right, all right, I know it's time, but at
least give me one last morsel of food from this
good green earth before I have to go. And the
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devil was actually kind of fond of Jack, and he said,
oh fine, I'll give you one last morsel of food
since you won't be getting it anymore forever. They were
next to an apple tree and Jack said, I can't
reach them apples, up there, But you're a great and
powerful spirit. Can you please run up that tree and
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take me down an apple to feed this hungry belly?
And once again the devil agreed to this request. But
as the devil limbed up the gnarled branches of the tree, clever, old,
stingy Jack reached in his pockets and quickly surrounded the
base of the tree with a ring of crucifixes. Satan
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was mad as hell that he had been entrapped again
and demanded his release, and as before, Jack made a
demand that his soul never be taken by Satan into hades.
Satan had no choice but to agree, and so the
devil was set free. Well, the years passed by, time
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always wins. Eventually, the hard drinking took its toll on
Jack and he died in pain. Jack found himself at
the gate of Saint Peter in heaven, but he was stopped.
Saint Peter said, Jack, because of your drinking and sinful
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life of deceit, you shall never be allowed in heaven.
So Jack was immediately spirited down to Hell. But there
he saw his old drinking buddy, the devil, once again,
and Satan said, I have to fulfill my promise, Jack,
you shall never be admitted here. And so Jack was
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not admitted to heaven or hell. And the devil, with
his eerie, vindictive grin, tossed a fiery ember into an old,
hollowed out turnip and gave it to Jack. And the
devil said, you shall miserably wander the earth forever, never
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at rest, always weary with this lantern, as a warning
to all those fools who think they can somehow outsmart
God and the Devil. And to this day, on some dark,
clear nights, especially around Halloween, you'll catch a glimpse of
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old stingy Jack with his lantern, drifting about the hills
and glens. All he wants now is a rest that
shall never come. He is doomed to this fate for
all time. Those who see this apparition shudder and rush
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their children inside. He's old stingy Jack with his lantern,
or as we call him, Jack of the Lantern or
Jack a Lantern. And that, my friends, is the story
of the Jack a Lantern.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yes, I don't know why exactly I love that tale
so much. I guess because that for me, it seems
to capture that spirit of the origin of.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Halloween, back of the old world.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
But now that that piece of nostalgia is out of
the way, we will begin prepping for the main event
of this show. That is because I am very particular
these days about accepting physical packages from anybody. But I
have known this guy for a long time. He's been
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a really good friend, and he has been telling me
for a long time he was going to send me
this package. And just recently, I mean weeks ago, this
large box arrived at my house and when I opened it,
there was one of the most impressive of ventriloquist dolls
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that I have ever seen. And you may or may
not know this, but technically, I guess professionally they're called
ventriloical figures, and this was an extremely well made doll figure.
I don't think it's good to call him a dummy,
and I mean, the craftsmanship was amazing. I think that
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a professional made this particular doll painstakingly, almost like Geppetto
making Pinocchio. And the origin of this doll is it's
still sort of up in the air. His name is Kennedy.
Now why is that? Well, I'm going to ask that
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question in a moment, because when we come back from
the break, my special guest, the man who sent this
doll to me, is going to tell us all in
his own words about how he obtained this and why
that this doll is haunted. And then I'm going to
tell you what I have been doing to study this
doll since the doll has been in my possession. And
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as if that weren't enough, after we talk about all that,
then I just last night went on a paranormal investigation
at one of the most haunted properties at all of
Las Vegas. I'm going to tell you the story about
that place as well. Oh my goodness, I guess you
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I am Joshua pe Warren, and you are listening to
Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast. I
am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back.
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Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast a m paranormal podcast Network. I am your host,
the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your
wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,
where every day is golden and every night is silver.
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Giato Zoo May. And if you have any experience doing
paranormal investigation, you probably know that one of the biggest
challenges you face is this phenomenon of genuine paranormal activity
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causing your equipment to malfunction. And that is a big,
big problem when you're trying to document something, especially something rare.
So I'm talking about your camera stops working, your microphone
stops working, your batteries. Fell I mean, it's just a
well known phenomenon. And people who are you know, debunkers
and cynics, they say, oh, isn't that convenient. Well, I
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know it seems that way, but I mean that also
is very much a part of you know, what happens
when these these bizarre energies are manifesting in the environment. Well, therefore,
it should not be a surprise that technical problems have
been a hallmark of this particular edition of the podcast,
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and which is very clearly apparent because the man that
I'm interviewing here momentarily for this show is my friend,
the legendary mister Tom dan Heiser, producer of Coast to
Coast AM also producer of this show Strange Things. And
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Tom dan Heiser has worked in broadcasting for many decades
and he's he's been, you know, on every end of
the technology. And I've been working in broadcasting for decades.
You'd think that if the two of us decided to
call each other and have a simple conversation, it should
be like thoughtless and simple and it should sound like
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a million bucks. Oh well, for the first time since
I've ever been interviewing people, I faced this well, almost
an insurmountable problem. I got Tom onto my sophisticated professional
recording outfit and I said, hey Tom, and he says, Josh,
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Hey Tom, Josh.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'm like, what's going on here? You know?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
So I've never had an issue before? So I hung
up everything, rebooted it. We could not connect to talk
about Kennedy the doll. And we must have tried, you know,
I don't know, six or seven times, and it just
wasn't going to work. And so I was getting desperate
because and now I know, I was also feeling embarrassed,
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like I can't believe, you know, I'm talking to the
producer of the show here and I can't get this
equipment to work. For the first time ever. I still
can't explain what happened. It's working fine now. I tested
it afterward. So the interview that you're about to hear
is going to sound a little bit weird because here's
what I had to do to make this happen. I
had to get him on my cell phone, put him
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on speaker phone, and then turn on a handheld audio
recorder right there between the phone and my face and
record us talking to each other that way, and thankfully
it doesn't really sound bad and still turn it out fine.
You can hear what we're saying. It just sounds weird.
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But I want you to know that and keep that
in mind as you listen to what we're talking about,
because we will address at some point how that once
Kennedy gets around, this kind of thing begins to happen.
So here we go. Let's dig into my conversation with
Tom dan Heiser. Producer, Tom dan Heiser, you and I
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have known each other a long time, many years, and
you called me one day and said, Joshua, we are
starting up a coast to coast am paranormal podcast network
and I want you to be a part of it.
And I think that was bllived or not over three
years ago, and I want to thank you right off
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the bat. I just want to thank you publicly for
inviting me.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
To be a part of the network.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, josh you know, I want to tell you you're
absolutely right. That was about three years ago. Every bit
of that story is true, and you know your show
has turned out to be a really great show. I
made a great decision, if I do say so myself,
and we're very happy that you are a part of
the network, and I mean that.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So before we get into the big topic here, I
just want to ask you, what do you think is
the most important key to all of the success that
Coast Coast AM has had over all these decades.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
That is one great question. I think one of the
keys is discernment. And I think that when it comes
to the strange, the ma cop even things that are
just scientific, I think people are too quick to jump
to go, yeah, that's it, that's it without thinking things through.
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Like I noticed I noticed on your show, when like
you'll do experiments and you'll do you know, different things,
I can tell that you think things through before you
actually proceed to do them, and I think that's very important.
You know, somebody comes to you and just says, you know,
I'm just using an example, but they say, I'm a warlock,
you know I can sound your magic. Well yeah, okay, fine,
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but you know think things through, can you? So that
kind of a lesser example of what I'm trying to say.
But I just, like I said, thinking things through I think.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Is a key.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Well, we love breaking news in the Coast to Coast
AM realm, and you are always full of surprises and
recently you contacted me and said that you had a
special gift to send me, So please tell us that story.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna say about four or five
years ago, one of the listeners of Coast to Coast
AM sent a big package to us, and in the
package was a doll, a v triloquist type doll. His
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name was Kennedy, and they just simply said, could you
watch out for him? And so, you know, we kept
this thing around. George and I just kept it around
in each other's offices forever. And I'm going to fast
forward to about a year ago. They had us move
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offices in our studios, so everything was a ray because
they're like four or five, six seven people moving everything.
And somehow the letter from the listener got separated from
where I had Kennedy in a drawer. So you know,
time went on and I just I kept Kennedy in
my new studio, in my new office, and you know,
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weird stuff started happening, not to me, but to friends
that would come up to my office. And somebody just
asked me, look, why don't you just you know, time
to get rid of Kennedy And to lack of a
better word.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I don't like the word get rid of.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
And I thought to myself, you know what, who better
might enjoy him than the Wizard of Weird? So I
contacted you and sure enough he said, yeah, I'd love
to have him. And that's our story. And now you
own Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So so what are the what are some of the
weird things that happened?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Well, let me tell you they weren't weird. Things were like,
oh no, they were Let me back up. At first,
it was just that people would look at him, and
my friends would say, he's creepy.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Don't don't show him to me.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
He's got you know, I'm sure you're going to post
him at some point on your website, but you know,
he's got this ventriloquist like face. And they just thought
he was really, really creepy.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
And that just went on for a while.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You know, a couple of friends would say here and there,
it's really creepy. And then one night, and you know,
I struggle with this because I can't explain this, but
when when my girlfriend asked me to get rid of him,
maybe like a week later, we were sleeping and I
woke up to this loud would crash in my kitchen
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and this porcelain candy dish I'd fallen from the counter. Now,
that seems pretty normal to me, a dish falling from
the top of a shelf. But the thing I struggle
with is the sound that I woke up to. In
no way was just a dish falling, Like someone literally
would have had to slam.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
This on the ground.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
And you know, I think to myself all the time,
I am I kind of just overthinking this or whatever,
but I'm not and I can't explain it. So that's
the first thing that happened. Then she started noticing like
shadow people going up my stairs, and I'm like, come on,
come on. So I think in fact, Josh, she said
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that to you and you analyzed it.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Didn't you.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah, And I can't explain what that shadow was.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Yeah, And then listen, Josh, I don't know if this
relates to Kennedy or not. All I'm saying is it
kind of started happening after I was asked to send
him away, and so had I had my assistant. She
was dog sitting for me. One time I was gone,
and she called me about twelve thirty at night, because
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why was she calling me and Josh. I got to
tell you there was serious terror in this woman's voice,
and she said that she grabbed my dog and ran
out of the house because she heard quote somebody dribbling
a bowling ball upstairs unquote. Now I find that fantastic,
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but I also you know, I'm not going to question
someone else.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Who says they heard this.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And if I could somehow, if I could somehow play
the terror in her voice, I mean, she really was scared.
I haven't heard any of this, so you know, as
far as I'm concerned, I don't have a haunted house
or anything like that. But these are some of the
things that happened ever since I was asked send Kennedy
to you.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Do you have any idea as to why he's named Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
I've been looking all over for that letter, but I
just I had it with him in a drawer.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But like I said, things got.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Drawn all over the place when they moved stuff, and
so I just don't know why his name was Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Okay, time for a break. When we come back, we'll
talk more about the strange activity around the Kennedy and
I also want to describe him to you in as
much detail as I can to tell you it was
sort of what it feels like to be around him,
and also tell you how that you can go and
see a picture of him. I'm Joshua P.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Warren.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will
be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange
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Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast I AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Warren.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
N this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
And now back to my conversation with producer Tom dan Heiser. Again,
we had to do this on a speakerphone setting because
we had so many technical problems. Maybe it's because we're
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talking about the uist member of my family, Kennedy, the
haunted doll, and you just kept him in a box
pretty much the whole time you had him right.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Well, No, what happened was we got him, we got
him out of the box.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
He sat in George's office for a while and George's like,
you read to take that thing. I don't want to
keep looking at it. So I took him in my office.
I sat him there for a while, and then it
came time to where we had to really start packing
up our things to move, so I stuck him in
a cabinet drawer. I lay him carefully in a cabinet
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drawer and shut the drawer, and he stayed there for
a couple months.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, as we speak, Kennedy is isolated in a room
in my lab with a camera on him twenty four
to seven and some instruments there also on camera to
measure any kind of electromagnetic or electrostatic activity associated with
movements and live so you know, we'll see what we
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can document. But do you think it's uh, it's possible, Tom,
that Kennedy might become just as interesting as say, like
Robert the Doll.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
I do I think it's possible. There's one thing that
confuses me. Every friend. When I say every friend, I
want to say like two or three people I've looked
at him and said he's really creepy, but I've never
I mean, I recognize that he's kind of you know,
strange look and he's a doll, but I never really
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felt you know, threatened or creeped out or anything and
then when I sent him to you, you and Lauren,
I believe felt fine, Like there's nothing weird about him.
So I don't know if it's the people or what.
I certainly think it's possible he could be like Roberts
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the Doll, but I will tell you it is that nothing. Well,
besides the weird things I told you, nothing really happened
when you got him, and then all of a sudden
tonight when you asked me if we could talk about him,
we had some trouble.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, for the first time ever.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean, like I in the past three years that
I've been doing strange things, I have never had an
issue with trying to record an interview, and this is
the first time that's ever happened.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know how to
explain it, Like I don't know how to explain the
Canty diish and my girlfriend can tell you that she did.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Not get a good vibe from him and Josh.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I wish I could explain and explain to everybody how
I feel, because you know this sound I woke up to,
and like I said, I'm really discerned. I kind of
try to take things apart and see what I should
believe in what I should, but there was no way
that this is falling from a shelf of maybe two
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feet made the noise that was the noise that I
woke up to.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
There's just no way.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, you know, that's one of the things that has
always impressed me about you is that you are an
incredibly logical, practical person. I mean, you hear the craziest
stories all the time, and yet at the same time,
you know, you're basically, you know, a businessman, and then
you're looking at logical explanations and cause and effect and
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all that. So it means a lot that you know,
you think there's something odd about this doll, But in general,
I guess do you feel that there is some kind
of a possible spirit in this thing?
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yes, I would certainly believe that, But I would also
believe that the spirit only seems to come out to
certain people at a certain times.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
And I don't you know.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I love the weird, I love the wacky. I love
everything this earth has to offer, but the things that
I can't explain.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Drive me crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And you know, I don't know this this bowling ball
sound that I that my assistant heard upstairs around the
time when I was asked to send Kennedy to you.
My girlfriend also Hearry. One night when I listen here,
I haven't heard anything. So then I start thinking, well,
you know, is it just women that hear this? But
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you know, I just don't know, and it drives me crazy.
I just I can't figure it out. But I will
tell you that candyish thing is probably one of the
most bizarre things in a long time that has happened
that ponders me.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Well, Tom, October is my birthday month, and You've just
given me a great gift, and I'm pretty sure it
will be the.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Gift that keeps on giving to all of us.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
So this is exciting, and yeah, you know, well just
I'm going to keep studying it and updating everybody.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But thank you, Tom. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
No, not at all. And I do want to leave
you with one of the things.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You know, there's things that are I believe things that
are evil will show you right away. And the fact
that you've had Kennedy for a while and everything's good, fine,
with the exception of maybe our little recording tonight.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I don't think he's.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Evil, at least not with you and Lauren I don't
think he was with me, but I don't think that
he liked other people telling me, you know, you need
to get rid of him.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
He's creepy.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean, like it seems like that there are some
bizarre technical things. As a matter of fact, he's the
camera that I have.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
On him right now has been malfunctioning.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
And then that's ever happened before, So I guess that's just,
you know, part of the problem when it comes to
trying to document the paranormal. I mean, you know, kind
of interferes with with with the process.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But well, we're going to keep everybody updated. Yeah. Yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
It's weird because you know, this stuff is not you know,
brain surgery. You get a record button yet Yeah, sure
things are working.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
It's fun.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
And when you could, you must have called me seven
times tonight, yeah, to get.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
A proper connection. And I just kept thinking, oh my god,
what is this.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I've never had that problem once. I mean I at
first I was like, is Tom missing with me? I've
never had that issue at all, So, yeah, there's something
happening here. So I think it's going to be really
interesting to keep everybody updated on what kind of mysterious
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phenomena occurs around Kennedy and Josh.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I think that you, I and Lauren are in as
good graces.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I will, I sure hope.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
So allright, well very cool, Well, well thank you Tom,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
My friend Josh, thanks for having me on strange things. Now.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I know you all are dying to hear more about
how Kennedy looks. And by the way, the night that
I received him and Lauren and I took him out
of the box, we put him in a chair and
took a picture of him, and I sent it to
my mom and my mom texted back that thing is creepy.
I would get rid of that demonic looking thing. So
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that's the reaction that my mom had. But I, Lauren
and I we definitely we were getting a good vibe
off him. But here we go. So Kennedy is. He
looks to be like a standard size Ventriloquist doll, except
he has a very thick torso. His skin is sort
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of light pink. He has cold black hair. He has
these eyes that look kind of mischievous. He has a
couple of kind of sharp black eyebrows, and his eyes
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his eyes are just a little bit squinty, and he's
got these kind of odd eyelashes drawn around his eyes,
but his eyes look incredibly realistic. When you look right
into his eyes, they're kind of penetrating, and he's got
this he's got red lips and this big wide grin
on his face, with these slightly rosy cheeks. He's wearing
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a little plaid vest with a burgundy tie. He's got
some dark trousers on. We actually bought him some nice
new little shoes he's wearing. But he's wearing a white shirt,
you know, So he looks he looks like a very
well dressed little man. And the thing is he also
has kind of like this smirk on his face. And
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you know how that usually these types of dolls are
used in an act to be like a little smarty pants,
so it's not unusual for the doll to have a
sarcastic look. But he looks realistic enough that when we
first got him and we had him sitting in the chair,
every time I would walk into the room and look
(36:28):
over and like I kind of forget that he was there,
and I'd look over and see him and it would
startle me because I felt like there was a person
sitting in the house. And as I mentioned before, when
we first got him, he wasn't completely assembled. You could
take his head out of his body, and it has
all these levers all over it, and one lever controls
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his eyebrows going up and down, the other one controls
his eyes moving back and forth, and then he's got
one for opening and closing his eyes and his mouth.
And I mean, it's just really, really well made. And
I do believe this is a professional doll. And I'm
going to try to figure out who made him. I
know a guy, I haven't talked to him in years.
(37:12):
Here's a professional puppeteer. I'm going to see if I
can get in touch with him to give you his
insight on who may have made this doll. Where did
this doll come from? But honestly, since we've had him,
nothing terrible has happened. But I do have him under
surveillance twenty four to seven. We have instruments on him,
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and I just hope the energy stays positive. But I'm
going to be keeping you updated on this. And I
am just delighted to have Kennedy and I think it's
just amazing that Tom sent me this and now I
can study it and tell all of you about it.
So trust me, there's going to be more to come,
and there's going to be more to come on this show.
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In our next segment, I'm going to tell you about
this very haunted property that I investigated last night. I'm
Joshua pe Warren, and you are listening to Strange Things
on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
and I will be right back. Welcome back to the
(38:49):
final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I
am your host, Joshua Warren, and I was so wrapped
up and looking at the picture of Kennedy, the haunted
doll and describing him, that I forgot to tell you
(39:10):
how you can just go look at a picture of
him yourself. Go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com. There
is no period after the pe at Joshuapwarren dot com.
Click the link to the Curiosity Shop, scroll around and
you will find a picture of Kennedy somewhere on that page.
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You can't miss him. And you know white else while
you are there, if you purchase something, guess what's gonna happen.
I've got some great news. Believe it or not. Our
little dog Lama is still alive and she is doing
much better than anybody ever expected. I was prepared to
(39:54):
give you some bad news with this recording, but I'm
telling you, I mean, it's almost starting to border on miraculous.
So many of you have gone to the Curiosity Shop
and you've purchased things. All the money goes to her
medical care. You've been praying, people have been sending various
gifts that might help her. I mean, it's honestly starting
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to border on miraculous, and so at a certain point,
I do want to tell all of you exactly every
specific thing that we've done and people who have helped
us specifically along the way, so that if your pet
is having trouble, especially severe trouble, I mean, like on
death's door, I feel obligated to share this information with you.
(40:41):
So thank you, Thank you, keep the prayers coming, and again,
please please go to Joshua Pewarren dot com, go to
that Curiosity Shop, and know that any dollar you spend
is going to an excellent cause. I wish we had
more time, but we don't, So let me jump straight
into what I did last night. I have a friend
who shoots videos on YouTube. They're very popular videos. His
(41:04):
name is Danny the Medic because he actually is a paramedic.
So if you go to YouTube and you just type
in Danny da n n Y Danny the Medic, you
can see the videos that he does that are often
focused on the Las Vegas area and they're very insightful,
they're funny, and like I say, he's got a very
(41:25):
popular channel. So he wanted to do something spooky for
Halloween and I told him that, well, if we were
to get together and investigate a haunted room, we should
probably do it at the Flamingo. Because long story short,
the Flamingo, which opened on December twenty sixth of nineteen
(41:48):
forty six, became the model for today's like lavish hotel
casino on the strip. I mean, that was what everything
else after the Flamingo tried to live up to Flamingos standards.
And one of the reasons that place was so lavish
was because it was very expensive to put together. And
(42:14):
the guy who kind of came in and finalized that
whole project was the infamous mobster Bugsy Siegell. Bugsy Siegel
was one of the most famous gangsters of his day.
And when he got involved with the Flamingo, he was,
you know, around his early forties. He was just a
(42:38):
brutal murderer and he was connected to just about every
vice you can imagine, and yet he was very popular
in the press. He always wore nice suits, and he was,
you know, he was the class kind of like gangster,
live in the high life kind of thing, even though
he was a wicked man. And so he was involved
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with the mob money and murder Incorporated and all that,
and so he got an enormous amount of mob money
there to finish up that project. But it didn't open
as well as was expected. He was there managing it
the whole time, and Buggsy Segull. He hated to be
called Bugsy. His name was Benjamin, but they called him
Bugsy because he killed a lot of people with his
(43:21):
own hands, and everybody said he was crazy as a
bedbug when he got mad, whatever that means. But he
had his own penthouse there he would stay in, and
he had so many enemies that there was only one
doorway and only one entrance into his suite, but there
were five hidden exits. One of them was through a
(43:42):
closet where he would slide down this ladder basically where
he would keep a limo driver waiting twenty four hours
a day, seven days a week, you know, to get
him out of there. And so there was a lot
of dark energy around the Flamingo. And at some point,
not long, I mean less than a year after it opened,
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the other gangsters who were, you know, bankrolling a lot
of this stuff, Meyer Lansky and such, they said that, well,
a lot of them believed that he was in bezzling
money and that was a.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Big no no.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
So when he was forty one years old, Bugsy Siegel
was sitting at his girlfriend's house in Beverly Hills in
the evening reading a newspaper, and somebody came outside, came
up to the house outside the window with a rifle
and shot him multiple times and killed him. One bullet
(44:36):
actually knocked his left eyeball out of his head, so
he died instantly, And that murder has never been solved.
Everybody said that so many people wanted to kill him,
it would be impossible to solve that murder. So what's
interesting is that as soon as that happened, a lot
of people started, you know, they stopped talking about Bugsy
Siegel because they thought, well, we don't want to be
(44:58):
associated with that. But times have changed, and so now
there's actually a garden behind the Flamingo and it has
flamingos in it, and they have a chapel there, and
they have a little memorial with a plaque dedicated to
Bugsy Siegel. And people see the ghost of Bugsy Siegell
walking around that little garden all the time, but also
all over the property, and there have been dozens of
(45:22):
reports of guests and employees seeing these gangster apparitions in
their rooms at night. Whether or not it actually is
Bugsy Seagull is hard to say, because Buggsy Seagull probably
was always haunted by a lot of these unres unrestful
spirits anyway, that he had helped to provide by being
(45:44):
a murderer, so that the property was always haunted by
those types of beings. But you know, and then there
was a maid who said that one time she heard
this guy screaming bloody murder, like he was being tortured
in when of the rooms and she got secure and
went in, but there was nobody in there. The stories
go on and on. How about that whole property being haunted?
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So Danny and I got together last night and I
brought some of my best equipment and we sat down
in his room and we shot some video and I
did some tests. And let me tell you right off
the bat, the first thing that happened was Danny has
shot I'm sure hundreds of videos, if not over a thousand,
(46:27):
and as soon as we sit down and start talking
about this, the audio starts cutting in and out. Everything
starts glitching. Even he was amazed, and he says he's
a man of science. Okay, he's a medic, he's not
a ghost enthusiast. Even he was amazed. And after that
we started getting some very strange readings on theF meters.
(46:47):
I had a thermal camera. There got some very interesting
hot spots and cold spots. So I don't know what
all the results are going to show us. I can
tell you that I did not see the ghost of
a gangster up here in the room last time. But
what I will tell you is that I have not
seen this finished segment yet. And he said that he
(47:07):
is going to release it on October the thirty first,
So I don't know when you're listening to this podcast,
but if you if it's after October the thirty first,
twenty twenty three on or after, well then go to
YouTube and look up Danny the Medic and you'll find
that as one of his most recent videos. But I
(47:28):
find that, you know, at a place like that, you
might go in and say, well, maybe this room isn't haunted,
maybe that room isn't. But once you start talking about
these things, that alone can bring that energy in. Because
the spiritual realm is not always necessarily tied down to
(47:50):
a particular place or a particular time. You can access
it mentally at any time, from any anywhere, and it
seems like it doesn't matter what you believe or you
don't believe, that there is always something that at least
affects your equipment and your instruments when you start bringing
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up this kind of material. And that's why I say
that's been a hallmark of this particular show. So check
out Danny's video and I could sit here and talk
to you more and more and more about creepy things
related to the mob and the Flamingo, But Ultimately, I
do love the Flamingo. It's a great place, and I
recommend you check it out. Also, in less than a month,
(48:38):
the new Duringo Casino opens in my neck at the Woods,
and I'm looking forward to telling you more about that.
All right, my friends, I hope you have enjoyed this
special spooky edition of the show. I will let you
know how things go with.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Kennedy the Doll.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Maybe we'll find out more about who he is and
where he's from and all that kind of thing. But
now it is time, as we often do, to try
to like clear our minds, breathe in something positive. Take
a deep breath if you can, close your eyes if
you can, let's all listen together to the good Fortune tone.
(49:41):
That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me
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Welcome to the iHeartRadio Coast to Coast a M Paranormal
podcast Network and Strange Things. The Wizard of Weird is
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out conducting peculiar experiments this week, but he's unlocked his
vault to share this perfectly preserved specimen of strangeness.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Get ready to be amazed by the Wizard of Weird.
This is Strange Things Women's.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Joshua Warren, I am Joshua B. Warren and each week
on this show, I'll be bringing you Brandon new mind
blowing content, news exercises, and weird you can do at home,
and a lot more. On this special edition of the show,
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I have a new haunted.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Doll and his name is Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I have been wanting to tell you about this for
a long time. I've been saving it up, and that's
why I think in part this is a special show.
Kennedy was given to me by a great friend, and
soon that friend is going to come on this podcast
as a surprise guest and tell you the story behind
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this most intriguing doll. But first, I am recording this
in October, and it is now a tradition for me
every October to tell you this tale, to set the tone,
to create the mood, to tell you the story of
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Stingy Jack. Several centuries ago, amongst the green countryside and
superstitious towns and villages in Ireland, there lived a drunkard
known as Stingy Jack. Jack was known throughout the land
as a deceiver, a manipulator, and a dredge on his community.
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On a fateful hallowy night typical of Jack, he was
drunk and wandering through the countryside in the moonlight, when
he stumbled upon a shadowy body lying in his path,
and to his surprise, the body, with an eerie grimace
on his pale face, rose suddenly, and the figure said
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to stingy Jack, I am the Devil, and I have
finally come for you. You knew this day would come. What
do you want with me, exclaimed Jack? I'm here to
take your soul down to hell, said the horrible, grinning figure. Well,
(04:12):
Jack seemed to accept his fate, but he said to
the devil, then, please, please at least give me one
last strink of l before I go. Well, the devil,
always up for a good time, said well, yes, fine,
then let's go to the pub for your last le. Well,
(04:34):
the two had a good old time, drinking up a
storm for hours. Finally the tab came to but Jack
did not have a penny to his name, so he
said to the devil, well, you're a great and powerful magician.
Let's see if you can turn yourself into a silver
coin we can give this barkeep. Well, the devil was
(04:56):
happy to show off and oblige, and he transfer formed
himself into a silver coin. Jack quickly stuffed the coin
into his pocket where Jack always kept a crucifix, and
this trapped al satan. You see, his power was gone
next to a crucifix, And the devil begged Jack to
(05:19):
let him go free. But Jack said, I know my
inevitable fate, but I'll only release you if you grant
me ten more years, just ten more years on this earth.
The devil had no choice but to agree. Well, you
think old stingy Jack would have changed his ways, but
(05:41):
he did not. Some say he got even worse. But
time flies by, and Halloween night, ten years later, old
Jack was wandering the moonlit countryside when once again his
old friend, the devil, appeared, next stood a dark tree.
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It's been ten years, growled the devil. Now it's time
to go Jack. And Jack bowed his head and said,
all right, all right, I know it's time, but at
least give me one last morsel of food from this
good green earth before I have to go. And the
(06:25):
devil was actually kind of fond of Jack, and he said,
oh fine, I'll give you one last morsel of food
since you won't be getting it anymore forever. They were
next to an apple tree and Jack said, I can't
reach them apples, up there, But you're a great and
powerful spirit. Can you please run up that tree and
(06:49):
take me down an apple to feed this hungry belly?
And once again the devil agreed to this request. But
as the devil limbed up the gnarled branches of the tree, clever, old,
stingy Jack reached in his pockets and quickly surrounded the
base of the tree with a ring of crucifixes. Satan
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was mad as hell that he had been entrapped again
and demanded his release, and as before, Jack made a
demand that his soul never be taken by Satan into hades.
Satan had no choice but to agree, and so the
devil was set free. Well, the years passed by, time
(07:41):
always wins. Eventually, the hard drinking took its toll on
Jack and he died in pain. Jack found himself at
the gate of Saint Peter in heaven, but he was stopped.
Saint Peter said, Jack, because of your drinking and sinful
(08:03):
life of deceit, you shall never be allowed in heaven.
So Jack was immediately spirited down to Hell. But there
he saw his old drinking buddy, the devil, once again,
and Satan said, I have to fulfill my promise, Jack,
you shall never be admitted here. And so Jack was
(08:28):
not admitted to heaven or hell. And the devil, with
his eerie, vindictive grin, tossed a fiery ember into an old,
hollowed out turnip and gave it to Jack. And the
devil said, you shall miserably wander the earth forever, never
(08:49):
at rest, always weary with this lantern, as a warning
to all those fools who think they can somehow outsmart
God and the Devil. And to this day, on some dark,
clear nights, especially around Halloween, you'll catch a glimpse of
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old stingy Jack with his lantern, drifting about the hills
and glens. All he wants now is a rest that
shall never come. He is doomed to this fate for
all time. Those who see this apparition shudder and rush
(09:39):
their children inside. He's old stingy Jack with his lantern,
or as we call him, Jack of the Lantern or
Jack a Lantern. And that, my friends, is the story
of the Jack a Lantern.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yes, I don't know why exactly I love that tale
so much. I guess because that for me, it seems
to capture that spirit of the origin of.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Halloween, back of the old world.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
But now that that piece of nostalgia is out of
the way, we will begin prepping for the main event
of this show. That is because I am very particular
these days about accepting physical packages from anybody. But I
have known this guy for a long time. He's been
(10:40):
a really good friend, and he has been telling me
for a long time he was going to send me
this package. And just recently, I mean weeks ago, this
large box arrived at my house and when I opened it,
there was one of the most impressive of ventriloquist dolls
(11:02):
that I have ever seen. And you may or may
not know this, but technically, I guess professionally they're called
ventriloical figures, and this was an extremely well made doll figure.
I don't think it's good to call him a dummy,
and I mean, the craftsmanship was amazing. I think that
(11:23):
a professional made this particular doll painstakingly, almost like Geppetto
making Pinocchio. And the origin of this doll is it's
still sort of up in the air. His name is Kennedy.
Now why is that? Well, I'm going to ask that
(11:44):
question in a moment, because when we come back from
the break, my special guest, the man who sent this
doll to me, is going to tell us all in
his own words about how he obtained this and why
that this doll is haunted. And then I'm going to
tell you what I have been doing to study this
doll since the doll has been in my possession. And
(12:08):
as if that weren't enough, after we talk about all that,
then I just last night went on a paranormal investigation
at one of the most haunted properties at all of
Las Vegas. I'm going to tell you the story about
that place as well. Oh my goodness, I guess you
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am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back.
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Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast a m paranormal podcast Network. I am your host,
the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your
wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,
where every day is golden and every night is silver.
(14:29):
Giato Zoo May. And if you have any experience doing
paranormal investigation, you probably know that one of the biggest
challenges you face is this phenomenon of genuine paranormal activity
(14:50):
causing your equipment to malfunction. And that is a big,
big problem when you're trying to document something, especially something rare.
So I'm talking about your camera stops working, your microphone
stops working, your batteries. Fell I mean, it's just a
well known phenomenon. And people who are you know, debunkers
and cynics, they say, oh, isn't that convenient. Well, I
(15:13):
know it seems that way, but I mean that also
is very much a part of you know, what happens
when these these bizarre energies are manifesting in the environment. Well, therefore,
it should not be a surprise that technical problems have
been a hallmark of this particular edition of the podcast,
(15:37):
and which is very clearly apparent because the man that
I'm interviewing here momentarily for this show is my friend,
the legendary mister Tom dan Heiser, producer of Coast to
Coast AM also producer of this show Strange Things. And
(15:59):
Tom dan Heiser has worked in broadcasting for many decades
and he's he's been, you know, on every end of
the technology. And I've been working in broadcasting for decades.
You'd think that if the two of us decided to
call each other and have a simple conversation, it should
be like thoughtless and simple and it should sound like
(16:21):
a million bucks. Oh well, for the first time since
I've ever been interviewing people, I faced this well, almost
an insurmountable problem. I got Tom onto my sophisticated professional
recording outfit and I said, hey Tom, and he says, Josh,
(16:41):
Hey Tom, Josh.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'm like, what's going on here? You know?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
So I've never had an issue before? So I hung
up everything, rebooted it. We could not connect to talk
about Kennedy the doll. And we must have tried, you know,
I don't know, six or seven times, and it just
wasn't going to work. And so I was getting desperate
because and now I know, I was also feeling embarrassed,
(17:06):
like I can't believe, you know, I'm talking to the
producer of the show here and I can't get this
equipment to work. For the first time ever. I still
can't explain what happened. It's working fine now. I tested
it afterward. So the interview that you're about to hear
is going to sound a little bit weird because here's
what I had to do to make this happen. I
had to get him on my cell phone, put him
(17:27):
on speaker phone, and then turn on a handheld audio
recorder right there between the phone and my face and
record us talking to each other that way, and thankfully
it doesn't really sound bad and still turn it out fine.
You can hear what we're saying. It just sounds weird.
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But I want you to know that and keep that
in mind as you listen to what we're talking about,
because we will address at some point how that once
Kennedy gets around, this kind of thing begins to happen.
So here we go. Let's dig into my conversation with
Tom dan Heiser. Producer, Tom dan Heiser, you and I
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have known each other a long time, many years, and
you called me one day and said, Joshua, we are
starting up a coast to coast am paranormal podcast network
and I want you to be a part of it.
And I think that was bllived or not over three
years ago, and I want to thank you right off
(18:32):
the bat. I just want to thank you publicly for
inviting me.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
To be a part of the network.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, josh you know, I want to tell you you're
absolutely right. That was about three years ago. Every bit
of that story is true, and you know your show
has turned out to be a really great show. I
made a great decision, if I do say so myself,
and we're very happy that you are a part of
the network, and I mean that.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So before we get into the big topic here, I
just want to ask you, what do you think is
the most important key to all of the success that
Coast Coast AM has had over all these decades.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
That is one great question. I think one of the
keys is discernment. And I think that when it comes
to the strange, the ma cop even things that are
just scientific, I think people are too quick to jump
to go, yeah, that's it, that's it without thinking things through.
(19:34):
Like I noticed I noticed on your show, when like
you'll do experiments and you'll do you know, different things,
I can tell that you think things through before you
actually proceed to do them, and I think that's very important.
You know, somebody comes to you and just says, you know,
I'm just using an example, but they say, I'm a warlock,
you know I can sound your magic. Well yeah, okay, fine,
(19:57):
but you know think things through, can you? So that
kind of a lesser example of what I'm trying to say.
But I just, like I said, thinking things through I think.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Is a key.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Well, we love breaking news in the Coast to Coast
AM realm, and you are always full of surprises and
recently you contacted me and said that you had a
special gift to send me, So please tell us that story.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna say about four or five
years ago, one of the listeners of Coast to Coast
AM sent a big package to us, and in the
package was a doll, a v triloquist type doll. His
(20:48):
name was Kennedy, and they just simply said, could you
watch out for him? And so, you know, we kept
this thing around. George and I just kept it around
in each other's offices forever. And I'm going to fast
forward to about a year ago. They had us move
(21:10):
offices in our studios, so everything was a ray because
they're like four or five, six seven people moving everything.
And somehow the letter from the listener got separated from
where I had Kennedy in a drawer. So you know,
time went on and I just I kept Kennedy in
my new studio, in my new office, and you know,
(21:34):
weird stuff started happening, not to me, but to friends
that would come up to my office. And somebody just
asked me, look, why don't you just you know, time
to get rid of Kennedy And to lack of a
better word.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I don't like the word get rid of.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
And I thought to myself, you know what, who better
might enjoy him than the Wizard of Weird? So I
contacted you and sure enough he said, yeah, I'd love
to have him. And that's our story. And now you
own Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So so what are the what are some of the
weird things that happened?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Well, let me tell you they weren't weird. Things were like,
oh no, they were Let me back up. At first,
it was just that people would look at him, and
my friends would say, he's creepy.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Don't don't show him to me.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
He's got you know, I'm sure you're going to post
him at some point on your website, but you know,
he's got this ventriloquist like face. And they just thought
he was really, really creepy.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
And that just went on for a while.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
You know, a couple of friends would say here and there,
it's really creepy. And then one night, and you know,
I struggle with this because I can't explain this, but
when when my girlfriend asked me to get rid of him,
maybe like a week later, we were sleeping and I
woke up to this loud would crash in my kitchen
(23:02):
and this porcelain candy dish I'd fallen from the counter. Now,
that seems pretty normal to me, a dish falling from
the top of a shelf. But the thing I struggle
with is the sound that I woke up to. In
no way was just a dish falling, Like someone literally
would have had to slam.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
This on the ground.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
And you know, I think to myself all the time,
I am I kind of just overthinking this or whatever,
but I'm not and I can't explain it. So that's
the first thing that happened. Then she started noticing like
shadow people going up my stairs, and I'm like, come on,
come on. So I think in fact, Josh, she said
(23:43):
that to you and you analyzed it.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Didn't you.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah, And I can't explain what that shadow was.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Yeah, And then listen, Josh, I don't know if this
relates to Kennedy or not. All I'm saying is it
kind of started happening after I was asked to send
him away, and so had I had my assistant. She
was dog sitting for me. One time I was gone,
and she called me about twelve thirty at night, because
(24:13):
why was she calling me and Josh. I got to
tell you there was serious terror in this woman's voice,
and she said that she grabbed my dog and ran
out of the house because she heard quote somebody dribbling
a bowling ball upstairs unquote. Now I find that fantastic,
(24:36):
but I also you know, I'm not going to question
someone else.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Who says they heard this.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And if I could somehow, if I could somehow play
the terror in her voice, I mean, she really was scared.
I haven't heard any of this, so you know, as
far as I'm concerned, I don't have a haunted house
or anything like that. But these are some of the
things that happened ever since I was asked send Kennedy
to you.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Do you have any idea as to why he's named Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
I've been looking all over for that letter, but I
just I had it with him in a drawer.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But like I said, things got.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Drawn all over the place when they moved stuff, and
so I just don't know why his name was Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Okay, time for a break. When we come back, we'll
talk more about the strange activity around the Kennedy and
I also want to describe him to you in as
much detail as I can to tell you it was
sort of what it feels like to be around him,
and also tell you how that you can go and
see a picture of him. I'm Joshua P.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Warren.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will
be back after these important messages. Welcome back to Strange
(26:28):
Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast I AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua P.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Warren.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
N this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
And now back to my conversation with producer Tom dan Heiser. Again,
we had to do this on a speakerphone setting because
we had so many technical problems. Maybe it's because we're
(26:58):
talking about the uist member of my family, Kennedy, the
haunted doll, and you just kept him in a box
pretty much the whole time you had him right.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Well, No, what happened was we got him, we got
him out of the box.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
He sat in George's office for a while and George's like,
you read to take that thing. I don't want to
keep looking at it. So I took him in my office.
I sat him there for a while, and then it
came time to where we had to really start packing
up our things to move, so I stuck him in
a cabinet drawer. I lay him carefully in a cabinet
(27:35):
drawer and shut the drawer, and he stayed there for
a couple months.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Well, as we speak, Kennedy is isolated in a room
in my lab with a camera on him twenty four
to seven and some instruments there also on camera to
measure any kind of electromagnetic or electrostatic activity associated with
movements and live so you know, we'll see what we
(28:02):
can document. But do you think it's uh, it's possible, Tom,
that Kennedy might become just as interesting as say, like
Robert the Doll.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
I do I think it's possible. There's one thing that
confuses me. Every friend. When I say every friend, I
want to say like two or three people I've looked
at him and said he's really creepy, but I've never
I mean, I recognize that he's kind of you know,
strange look and he's a doll, but I never really
(28:36):
felt you know, threatened or creeped out or anything and
then when I sent him to you, you and Lauren,
I believe felt fine, Like there's nothing weird about him.
So I don't know if it's the people or what.
I certainly think it's possible he could be like Roberts
(28:57):
the Doll, but I will tell you it is that nothing. Well,
besides the weird things I told you, nothing really happened
when you got him, and then all of a sudden
tonight when you asked me if we could talk about him,
we had some trouble.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, for the first time ever.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean, like I in the past three years that
I've been doing strange things, I have never had an
issue with trying to record an interview, and this is
the first time that's ever happened.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know how to
explain it, Like I don't know how to explain the
Canty diish and my girlfriend can tell you that she did.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Not get a good vibe from him and Josh.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I wish I could explain and explain to everybody how
I feel, because you know this sound I woke up to,
and like I said, I'm really discerned. I kind of
try to take things apart and see what I should
believe in what I should, but there was no way
that this is falling from a shelf of maybe two
(30:03):
feet made the noise that was the noise that I
woke up to.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
There's just no way.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Well, you know, that's one of the things that has
always impressed me about you is that you are an
incredibly logical, practical person. I mean, you hear the craziest
stories all the time, and yet at the same time,
you know, you're basically, you know, a businessman, and then
you're looking at logical explanations and cause and effect and
(30:31):
all that. So it means a lot that you know,
you think there's something odd about this doll, But in general,
I guess do you feel that there is some kind
of a possible spirit in this thing?
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Yes, I would certainly believe that, But I would also
believe that the spirit only seems to come out to
certain people at a certain times.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
And I don't you know.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
I love the weird, I love the wacky. I love
everything this earth has to offer, but the things that
I can't explain.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Drive me crazy.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And you know, I don't know this this bowling ball
sound that I that my assistant heard upstairs around the
time when I was asked to send Kennedy to you.
My girlfriend also Hearry. One night when I listen here,
I haven't heard anything. So then I start thinking, well,
you know, is it just women that hear this? But
(31:34):
you know, I just don't know, and it drives me crazy.
I just I can't figure it out. But I will
tell you that candyish thing is probably one of the
most bizarre things in a long time that has happened
that ponders me.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Well, Tom, October is my birthday month, and You've just
given me a great gift, and I'm pretty sure it
will be the.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Gift that keeps on giving to all of us.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
So this is exciting, and yeah, you know, well just
I'm going to keep studying it and updating everybody.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
But thank you, Tom. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
No, not at all. And I do want to leave
you with one of the things.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You know, there's things that are I believe things that
are evil will show you right away. And the fact
that you've had Kennedy for a while and everything's good, fine,
with the exception of maybe our little recording tonight.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I don't think he's.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Evil, at least not with you and Lauren I don't
think he was with me, but I don't think that
he liked other people telling me, you know, you need
to get rid of him.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
He's creepy.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean, like it seems like that there are some
bizarre technical things. As a matter of fact, he's the
camera that I have.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
On him right now has been malfunctioning.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
And then that's ever happened before, So I guess that's just,
you know, part of the problem when it comes to
trying to document the paranormal. I mean, you know, kind
of interferes with with with the process.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But well, we're going to keep everybody updated. Yeah. Yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
It's weird because you know, this stuff is not you know,
brain surgery. You get a record button yet Yeah, sure
things are working.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
It's fun.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
And when you could, you must have called me seven
times tonight, yeah, to get.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
A proper connection. And I just kept thinking, oh my god,
what is this.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I've never had that problem once. I mean I at
first I was like, is Tom missing with me? I've
never had that issue at all, So, yeah, there's something
happening here. So I think it's going to be really
interesting to keep everybody updated on what kind of mysterious
(33:55):
phenomena occurs around Kennedy and Josh.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I think that you, I and Lauren are in as
good graces.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I will, I sure hope.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
So allright, well very cool, Well, well thank you Tom,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
My friend Josh, thanks for having me on strange things. Now.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I know you all are dying to hear more about
how Kennedy looks. And by the way, the night that
I received him and Lauren and I took him out
of the box, we put him in a chair and
took a picture of him, and I sent it to
my mom and my mom texted back that thing is creepy.
I would get rid of that demonic looking thing. So
(34:40):
that's the reaction that my mom had. But I, Lauren
and I we definitely we were getting a good vibe
off him. But here we go. So Kennedy is. He
looks to be like a standard size Ventriloquist doll, except
he has a very thick torso. His skin is sort
(35:01):
of light pink. He has cold black hair. He has
these eyes that look kind of mischievous. He has a
couple of kind of sharp black eyebrows, and his eyes
(35:21):
his eyes are just a little bit squinty, and he's
got these kind of odd eyelashes drawn around his eyes,
but his eyes look incredibly realistic. When you look right
into his eyes, they're kind of penetrating, and he's got
this he's got red lips and this big wide grin
on his face, with these slightly rosy cheeks. He's wearing
(35:46):
a little plaid vest with a burgundy tie. He's got
some dark trousers on. We actually bought him some nice
new little shoes he's wearing. But he's wearing a white shirt,
you know, So he looks he looks like a very
well dressed little man. And the thing is he also
has kind of like this smirk on his face. And
(36:08):
you know how that usually these types of dolls are
used in an act to be like a little smarty pants,
so it's not unusual for the doll to have a
sarcastic look. But he looks realistic enough that when we
first got him and we had him sitting in the chair,
every time I would walk into the room and look
(36:28):
over and like I kind of forget that he was there,
and I'd look over and see him and it would
startle me because I felt like there was a person
sitting in the house. And as I mentioned before, when
we first got him, he wasn't completely assembled. You could
take his head out of his body, and it has
all these levers all over it, and one lever controls
(36:50):
his eyebrows going up and down, the other one controls
his eyes moving back and forth, and then he's got
one for opening and closing his eyes and his mouth.
And I mean, it's just really, really well made. And
I do believe this is a professional doll. And I'm
going to try to figure out who made him. I
know a guy, I haven't talked to him in years.
(37:12):
Here's a professional puppeteer. I'm going to see if I
can get in touch with him to give you his
insight on who may have made this doll. Where did
this doll come from? But honestly, since we've had him,
nothing terrible has happened. But I do have him under
surveillance twenty four to seven. We have instruments on him,
(37:33):
and I just hope the energy stays positive. But I'm
going to be keeping you updated on this. And I
am just delighted to have Kennedy and I think it's
just amazing that Tom sent me this and now I
can study it and tell all of you about it.
So trust me, there's going to be more to come,
and there's going to be more to come on this show.
(37:56):
In our next segment, I'm going to tell you about
this very haunted property that I investigated last night. I'm
Joshua pe Warren, and you are listening to Strange Things
on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
and I will be right back. Welcome back to the
(38:49):
final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I
am your host, Joshua Warren, and I was so wrapped
up and looking at the picture of Kennedy, the haunted
doll and describing him, that I forgot to tell you
(39:10):
how you can just go look at a picture of
him yourself. Go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com. There
is no period after the pe at Joshuapwarren dot com.
Click the link to the Curiosity Shop, scroll around and
you will find a picture of Kennedy somewhere on that page.
(39:31):
You can't miss him. And you know white else while
you are there, if you purchase something, guess what's gonna happen.
I've got some great news. Believe it or not. Our
little dog Lama is still alive and she is doing
much better than anybody ever expected. I was prepared to
(39:54):
give you some bad news with this recording, but I'm
telling you, I mean, it's almost starting to border on miraculous.
So many of you have gone to the Curiosity Shop
and you've purchased things. All the money goes to her
medical care. You've been praying, people have been sending various
gifts that might help her. I mean, it's honestly starting
(40:19):
to border on miraculous, and so at a certain point,
I do want to tell all of you exactly every
specific thing that we've done and people who have helped
us specifically along the way, so that if your pet
is having trouble, especially severe trouble, I mean, like on
death's door, I feel obligated to share this information with you.
(40:41):
So thank you, Thank you, keep the prayers coming, and again,
please please go to Joshua Pewarren dot com, go to
that Curiosity Shop, and know that any dollar you spend
is going to an excellent cause. I wish we had
more time, but we don't, So let me jump straight
into what I did last night. I have a friend
who shoots videos on YouTube. They're very popular videos. His
(41:04):
name is Danny the Medic because he actually is a paramedic.
So if you go to YouTube and you just type
in Danny da n n Y Danny the Medic, you
can see the videos that he does that are often
focused on the Las Vegas area and they're very insightful,
they're funny, and like I say, he's got a very
(41:25):
popular channel. So he wanted to do something spooky for
Halloween and I told him that, well, if we were
to get together and investigate a haunted room, we should
probably do it at the Flamingo. Because long story short,
the Flamingo, which opened on December twenty sixth of nineteen
(41:48):
forty six, became the model for today's like lavish hotel
casino on the strip. I mean, that was what everything
else after the Flamingo tried to live up to Flamingos standards.
And one of the reasons that place was so lavish
was because it was very expensive to put together. And
(42:14):
the guy who kind of came in and finalized that
whole project was the infamous mobster Bugsy Siegell. Bugsy Siegel
was one of the most famous gangsters of his day.
And when he got involved with the Flamingo, he was,
you know, around his early forties. He was just a
(42:38):
brutal murderer and he was connected to just about every
vice you can imagine, and yet he was very popular
in the press. He always wore nice suits, and he was,
you know, he was the class kind of like gangster,
live in the high life kind of thing, even though
he was a wicked man. And so he was involved
(42:59):
with the mob money and murder Incorporated and all that,
and so he got an enormous amount of mob money
there to finish up that project. But it didn't open
as well as was expected. He was there managing it
the whole time, and Buggsy Segull. He hated to be
called Bugsy. His name was Benjamin, but they called him
Bugsy because he killed a lot of people with his
(43:21):
own hands, and everybody said he was crazy as a
bedbug when he got mad, whatever that means. But he
had his own penthouse there he would stay in, and
he had so many enemies that there was only one
doorway and only one entrance into his suite, but there
were five hidden exits. One of them was through a
(43:42):
closet where he would slide down this ladder basically where
he would keep a limo driver waiting twenty four hours
a day, seven days a week, you know, to get
him out of there. And so there was a lot
of dark energy around the Flamingo. And at some point,
not long, I mean less than a year after it opened,
(44:03):
the other gangsters who were, you know, bankrolling a lot
of this stuff, Meyer Lansky and such, they said that, well,
a lot of them believed that he was in bezzling
money and that was a.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Big no no.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
So when he was forty one years old, Bugsy Siegel
was sitting at his girlfriend's house in Beverly Hills in
the evening reading a newspaper, and somebody came outside, came
up to the house outside the window with a rifle
and shot him multiple times and killed him. One bullet
(44:36):
actually knocked his left eyeball out of his head, so
he died instantly, And that murder has never been solved.
Everybody said that so many people wanted to kill him,
it would be impossible to solve that murder. So what's
interesting is that as soon as that happened, a lot
of people started, you know, they stopped talking about Bugsy
Siegel because they thought, well, we don't want to be
(44:58):
associated with that. But times have changed, and so now
there's actually a garden behind the Flamingo and it has
flamingos in it, and they have a chapel there, and
they have a little memorial with a plaque dedicated to
Bugsy Siegel. And people see the ghost of Bugsy Siegell
walking around that little garden all the time, but also
all over the property, and there have been dozens of
(45:22):
reports of guests and employees seeing these gangster apparitions in
their rooms at night. Whether or not it actually is
Bugsy Seagull is hard to say, because Buggsy Seagull probably
was always haunted by a lot of these unres unrestful
spirits anyway, that he had helped to provide by being
(45:44):
a murderer, so that the property was always haunted by
those types of beings. But you know, and then there
was a maid who said that one time she heard
this guy screaming bloody murder, like he was being tortured
in when of the rooms and she got secure and
went in, but there was nobody in there. The stories
go on and on. How about that whole property being haunted?
(46:06):
So Danny and I got together last night and I
brought some of my best equipment and we sat down
in his room and we shot some video and I
did some tests. And let me tell you right off
the bat, the first thing that happened was Danny has
shot I'm sure hundreds of videos, if not over a thousand,
(46:27):
and as soon as we sit down and start talking
about this, the audio starts cutting in and out. Everything
starts glitching. Even he was amazed, and he says he's
a man of science. Okay, he's a medic, he's not
a ghost enthusiast. Even he was amazed. And after that
we started getting some very strange readings on theF meters.
(46:47):
I had a thermal camera. There got some very interesting
hot spots and cold spots. So I don't know what
all the results are going to show us. I can
tell you that I did not see the ghost of
a gangster up here in the room last time. But
what I will tell you is that I have not
seen this finished segment yet. And he said that he
(47:07):
is going to release it on October the thirty first,
So I don't know when you're listening to this podcast,
but if you if it's after October the thirty first,
twenty twenty three on or after, well then go to
YouTube and look up Danny the Medic and you'll find
that as one of his most recent videos. But I
(47:28):
find that, you know, at a place like that, you
might go in and say, well, maybe this room isn't haunted,
maybe that room isn't. But once you start talking about
these things, that alone can bring that energy in. Because
the spiritual realm is not always necessarily tied down to
(47:50):
a particular place or a particular time. You can access
it mentally at any time, from any anywhere, and it
seems like it doesn't matter what you believe or you
don't believe, that there is always something that at least
affects your equipment and your instruments when you start bringing
(48:13):
up this kind of material. And that's why I say
that's been a hallmark of this particular show. So check
out Danny's video and I could sit here and talk
to you more and more and more about creepy things
related to the mob and the Flamingo, But Ultimately, I
do love the Flamingo. It's a great place, and I
recommend you check it out. Also, in less than a month,
(48:38):
the new Duringo Casino opens in my neck at the Woods,
and I'm looking forward to telling you more about that.
All right, my friends, I hope you have enjoyed this
special spooky edition of the show. I will let you
know how things go with.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Kennedy the Doll.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Maybe we'll find out more about who he is and
where he's from and all that kind of thing. But
now it is time, as we often do, to try
to like clear our minds, breathe in something positive. Take
a deep breath if you can, close your eyes if
you can, let's all listen together to the good Fortune tone.
(49:41):
That's it for this edition of the show. Follow me
on Twitter at Joshua P.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
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(50:10):
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