August 29, 2025 • 50 mins
Join Sandra to uncover the secret history of why we don't talk about the afterlife, hear an NDE that turned a skeptic into a believer, and a beautiful message about our beloved pets
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after day.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Before we
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get started with our episode, I have a message for
listener Christopher and all others who have a great story
you think is perfect for shades of the afterlife, whether
you've had a near death experience, a sign from your
loved one, or anything else that screams, oh my gosh,
this is proof that the afterlife is real. I want
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to know about it. My email address is Sandra Champlaine
at gmail dot com. On today's episode, we have a
few things to talk about. You'll meet Brandy, who not
only had a near death experience, but was one of
the very few who got a reading with John Edwards
in one of his big venues, giving her and her
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very skeptical dad proof that her mother lives on. Also,
I've often wondered why talking about the afterlife feels like
such a taboo subject. Do you feel it sometimes? I
know I do. Almost all the world's religions believe in
an afterlife, So why do we sometimes feel afraid being
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open and talking about it. Why do we feel sometimes
that if science hasn't proven it, then there's really no evidence.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There was a great divorce that I uncovered between science
and spirit in the fifteen hundreds, which made it a
life or death situation if we were to openly share
our beliefs. I think currently we are simply a product
of the last five hundred years of conditioning, you know,
buying into some of these fear based beliefs. So more
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about that later. Next. Have you felt the love for
an animal companion? Have you had a special pet that
has a place in your heart that no human being
has ever reached. Today, I'd like to dedicate this episode
to my aunt Donna and our beloved cat Harry, who
this week migrated into the spirit world. I own a
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house with my Auntie Donna, and have for well over
twenty something years, and Harry has been in our life
for thirteen years. He was a stray cat and needed
a home just after the passing of our cat Millie.
I had traveled a lot prior to the year twenty
twenty and so Donna really formed the deepest relationship with
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this little kiddy. Now, many of you know that when
COVID hit back in twenty twenty five, there were a
few health situations in the household here, so I relocated
and I spend most of my time with my dear
mom these days. Donna is about two hours north of
where I am, so we see each other from time
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to time. But little Harry was her trusted companion and
wherever Donna went. Harry followed. If you're some who hasn't
had a faithful pet, you may not really fully appreciate
the unconditional love and bond that gets created with our
little furried friends. But if you do have a pet,
or have had a close pet, you know just what
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I'm talking about. Harry's been quite sick, and a few
days ago Donna had to make a very tough decision.
And I know that Donna is hurting right now and
that grief is incredibly high. And while I wasn't as
close to Harry, I certainly do feel the grief, and
grief has a very sneaky way of igniting grief from
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the past. Have you ever found that we may think
that we are a good distance from the deep pain
of grief, and then something happens a pet loss in
my case, or passing of someone who was a little distant,
or we might see something on television or in a
movie those old Hallmark card commercials sometimes would trigger the
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grief from the past. And it really does just seem
like any bit of grief has the power to reignite
so many things. So in my case, Harry's passing led
me to the loss of prior pets, to the death
of my dad, my grandmother, and how life really has
changed for me and my mom and my aunt drastically
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after the COVID days. We lost our full time income,
our business of thirty five years. And for those of
you who are new to the show, Mom and I
ran a very successful catering business to race car teams
for thirty five years. And yes, there's a lot of
good that's come out of the past five years, including
getting to be here with you now. I love shades
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of the afterlife. I love continuing the exploration and then
sharing with you everything. But I too, am a human
being and sometimes it gets tough. So I try to
take my own advice that I give you here on
the show. You are feeling grief, I ask you be
gentle on yourself. If you haven't yet taken me up
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on my offer for a free PDF copy of my book,
which is called We Don't Die, A Skeptics Discovery of
Life after Death. I want you to have one because
chapter ten is about how to survive grief, Why we grieve,
what's happening biologically within our bodies and minds, things we
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can do to ease the pain and just understand it.
If you'd like a copy, my website is we Don't
Die dot com. And at the bottom of the page,
if you want to enter your name in your email address,
you'll get a pop up with it and then also
an email. Now it says you get the first few
chapters of the book, but the secret is it is
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the entire book. I had mentioned earlier. My cat Millie.
Now I was somebody who was anti cat's got scratched
up by a cat when I was a little kid.
But this Millie, she snuck into our house and actually
snuck into my heart. And Millie was my special companion
for twelve years. Even when I wrote my book We
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Don't Die. She had her head resting just next to
my fingertips on my laptop. She was there every step
of the way. Millie got very sick and we unfortunately
had to put her to sleep. But just after I
heard from my publisher and I had twenty four hours
to reread my book for any errors or typos before
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it went to the printing house. And I had read
and reread my books so many times, I have to
be honest, it's the last thing that I wanted to do. However,
I was forced to read it one last time, and
you know what happened. My grief was tremendously lifted. I
felt comforted about the afterlife. That chapter ten on grief
gave me just the words I needed to put everything
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in perspective understand what I was feeling. So for me,
my cat Millie was an angel and passed at exactly
the right time, on the right day to let me
know how powerful the words on grief are. In my book,
you'll hear some very comforting words about pets in the
afterlife and our last segment together. But now let's meet
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Brandy faith Well. I met her years ago at a seminar.
She's a nice, bubbly gal and is passionate about things
like psychology, neuroscience, quantum physics. She's assisted for years in
the past at Tony Robbins VNCE, but her real transformation
came after her mom died when she had a near
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death experience. Brandy is on a mission to stop the
human suffering that gets passed down from generation to generation,
so she wrote a book. It's called Heal Your Heart,
Free Your Mind. Let's listen to my conversation with Brandy.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
My mom died of a brain tumor. I was very
connected with my mother, and a year before she died,
there's no I'm almost really healthy. She did yoga the time,
she read lots of spiritual personals about the books, and
she ate healthy and didn't drink and all that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So there was just no signs for my mom.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
But a year before I would call her crying, going, Mom,
I can't lose you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I don't want to be here without you. I want
to go first, and she's like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I'm life going anywhere, And it made no logical sense,
but it's like my soul knew that something was coming up,
and I.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Was definitely afraid.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And so unfortunately, a year later, I got the phone
call that my dad said, this is how I found
your mother.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
She's not doing well. We have a CEAT scam for
her or an em mari. I think it was for
her tomorrow and if you want to come down, come down.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And it was like then I knew it was happening,
and I just hung up the phone and all night
I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm just pacing back and forth. My mother, God, please
don't take a bother.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And so that day they told.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Her she had a glibas doil multi form and it
had taken over her whole left side of her brain,
gone through the central part of her brain and started
over to the right side of her brain. And it's
the most aggressive, faster growing tumor and once it gets
in the center of the brain, it's inoperable and do
anything with it. So they gave her three months to live,
and unfortunately that's about how long she lived to the day.
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I was at this existential suffering. I did not want
to be here. And when you're at that loathan, the
divine can really do some work with you. And because
your ego, that part of you that think God, it
all control and all figured out and be out of
the way. Because I was at this extential suffering, I
just didn't want to be here, and I was in
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a state of anxiety. I would have adrenaline during the
day and then cortisol would come up at night, and
so you're in a constant state of not sleeping. So
you're in this anxiety and if anybody's experienced it, to me,
it was hell. And I felt like, if this is
going to continue, I really don't want to be here.
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As a living hell. So I was just looking for
anything to help me, and I discovered something called dietsha,
so something similar to reiki, where it's just like a
healing energy and it has a divine intelligence of what
needs to be healed, either emotionally, spiritually, or physically. Because
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I was in this state of anxiety, and part of
it was because when my mother died, I went through
her journals and I found out family secrets that just
kind of traumatized.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh my eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
No, it was like all the foundations in which I
believed about my family I was weren't totally true. All
my foundations had been shaken, and I didn't feel like
I had a safe place from these secrets that I
found out. I had a lot of anger at people,
and I was having some anger kind of blaming people
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for my mother's death, if you will. So when I
had this dieksha, what I experienced was I've just left.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
The event where they gave me the dieksha. I'm peaceful
and nice, but I was like, Okay, I don't know
what that was to call energy.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
It's kind of a little woo wu, right, And I
went home and I went to sleep, and I woke
up an hour later and my whole body was vibrating,
and it was so vibrating, specifically right in the liver area.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I was vibrating so much there that it was.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Almost painful, and I was just really freaked out. I
didn't know I just did to myself. I called my
dad and I told my dad that, Hey, Dad, I
don't know what I just did to myself, but this
is the person's the name and number of anything happens
to me.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I was that freaked out.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Right, and so what I experienced though was the next day,
I was a little out of it because I hadn't
slept nights.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
With this energy.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But it's time for a quick break and we'll be
right back with more from Brandy and Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
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Sandra Champlain. You're listening to Brandy Weld. Her mom had
just died. She had a treatment similar to Raki called Deeksha,
and she soon to tell us about an extraordinary medium
rating and near death experience.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Next day, I was a little out of it because
I haven't slept all nights. With this energy, I had
all the knowledge of all the things that had happened.
But like all the charges was gone, and all of
a sudden, the anxiety was gone, and I was able
to sleep. I felt really good, And before I was
really uncomfortable to be around. So me and my mom
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loved John Edwards when he had a show Crossing Over,
and we used to watch it every day. If we
couldn't watch it, we taped it. So both her and
I made an agreement because I traveled around the world
and so she was worried about me, and so we
had an agreement at that time, like whoever died first,
we had meeted John Edward.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So when she was dying, I said, remember mom, when
we're meeting. She said, yep, John Edward.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
After she died, I went to see where he was
going to be speaking closest to me, because he was
no longer on TV, and he was traveling around the
United States, and a lot of times it's like twenty
five hundred people at an event and at best ten
people get read.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So I looked to see when he was going to
be speaking the closest to me, and it was on.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Her actual birthday, August fourteenth, and so I'm like, that's
the one.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's the one we have to go to.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
And so I told my dad and he decided to
go just to console me when she didn't come through,
because he thought when you died, you died, you went
to desk. And then I had a boyfriend come too
because he thought it was all BS and he was
going to come just to prove that it was all.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
BS, right, right, So I came there with.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
My two skeptics, and actually, with John Edward's events, it's
normally the skeptic that gets read because they need it
the most.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But also because my mother watched him for so long,
she knew how to get his attention before everybody else.
So he was doing what he normally does.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
He says, when I say above you, I mean this,
and he goes, okay, and just women. And I'm coming
over here with a mother energy and he goes, okay,
if I say this besides you, I mean this.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I say, blow you, I mean this. Okay, I
have a mother energy right here who died of a
brain tumor. And so I jump up.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He's pointing right at me, right, you know how he
gets pulled to a direction yep, and so I jump
up and he's like really specific. He's saying, who's Patricia
and we go her sister and he goes so she's saying,
tell her hi, and that who's Jenny. That's Patricia's daughter.
She should say you tell her hi. And then he
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goes to my dad. He says, she's telling me to
teach you about a man and a little bo peep
outfit full on with the bonnet and the staff. And
also I look at my dad and he just starts bawling,
crying instantly, and my boyfriend, who's there that they're meeting
for the first time, my dad's almost collapsing. He's like
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catching my father. So here I skept. A boyfriend is going,
oh my god, the skeptic dad is being affected by this,
right crying. So anyways, and me and my dad were
having a lot of fighting during this time period with
my mom's death, so I'm going, like, what the hell
Dad wasn't until afterwards the reading I got to find
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out what that was about, and it was because well,
my mom had died. He had gone to a park
in which him and my mother used to go to
all the time is right next to a river. And
then he sat on a bench that's next to river
that him and my mother used to sit on, and
he put his hands down on his head, crying, and
then all of a sudden, he felt an arm around him.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
He looked up and it was a man in a
little bopete velvet with the bonnet with a stab. Yeah,
consoling him, but also kind of flirt with him too.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, he never told anybody this ever, So he knew
that there's no way that John could have known this
if it wasn't my mother saying that she was there.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So that made dead a believer.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
And my mom knew she had to tell him something
that he couldn't justify right, that he couldn't guess that. Oh,
he probably said something that could be similar to and
how it transformed him so much?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Was it like it was her birthday?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
So he went and took her out to her favorite
restaurant that night for her birthday, took her to her
favorite show and he had a seat next to him,
and he held her hand during the.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Whole show, and it'd be that special, it isn't that?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And then afterwards, all of a sudden I've found out,
he's like sneaking off to scene where John Edward's going
to be close to him again, so he could try
to have another connection.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And he started experiencing things around the house that he
wouldn't have ever probably experienced if he didn't have this
new belief. For instance, my mom and dad had his
inhr sincts in their master bedroom. Yeah, and on her
side there was one of those push soaps. Well on
her side, all of a sudden, the soap starts spewing.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Out, like music boxes and stuff like that would start
playing music, yeah, without anything. So she started letting him
know that she was around, and he wasn't freaked out
and it was beautiful. So that was such a beautiful gift.
And also I want to share that my mom was
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trying to utilize John to counsel me and my dad,
so because we were having this kind of bite and
falling out, she was like trying to bring us together
through John. So that was really interesting as well.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And so were you left with the same wow factor
and really feeling comforted.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, you watch it and you believe it
so much, but it's a whole different experience when you
actually physically experience it, and it's no question like that.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
It's different when you see other people that you don't
know have readings, but when you personally have it.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, did you yourself have any your death experience?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah. So in two thousand and eight, I was in
Fiji and I.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Was assisting with a program that was on Tony's property
on Savusavu, and we had like a two week break
between events, so I went traveling by myself to the
other islands. When I was traveling, I and a few
other people signed up for hiking in the jungle there
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in the rainforest, and we were doing those kinds of
things during the day because we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
A night dive that night, goob A diving, And.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So he asked that if we wanted to go see
this hermit that lived at the bottom of the hill,
and we said yes.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And I don't remember any of this.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Part, but they say he most likely shouldn't have brought
us down because it was a really wet, narrow trail
and then there was this log that was blocking it
that he was helping us over. But we made it
down there safely and saw the hermit and we were
on our way back up, and everybody else was way
ahead of meet, and there was one guy way behind us.
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The guide was helping me over this log and him
and I both fell and I never saw him again,
so I don't know what happened, but I hit my
head on a rock on my way down. So the
guy that was way behind he just saw the guide
holding somebody's hand falling, but he didn't know who it was.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Everybody else went and got health and what he experienced
was me was just kind of being gone for about
half an hour.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But what I experienced was crossing, like ending up in
this other dimension.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And there was my mother.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And she didn't look how I saw her when she died.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So when she died, she had gray hair.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
She was fifty nine years old and her hair was gray,
but she looked like when she was in her thirties.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But I didn't put it together. My first response was
just like, oh my god, Mom, you're alive.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Ah, that was a bad dream, Like I thought everything
else that had happened was all just a bad dream
and that this was real and that she was alive.
And then of course I was told otherwise. But of
course it's not speaking.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It's just like a downloading like knowing, it just comes
into so it's hard to describe that. But I was
told what happened, and it was kind of like this
beautiful green grass and hilly and flowers all around.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
And I had all of my deceased animals around me too,
and it's like I could really feel them. I could
feel my horse had her head over my shoulder, it
was like breathing on my neck. And then I was
sitting on the ground and I could feel my cat
just kind of rubbing behind my legs, and my dogs
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their heads in my lap, and it was just it
was so awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You were just like surrounded by this love.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I was shown what I had been doing all of
my life, how I was stuck in this victim consciousness
and this human suffering that happens, and how it happened,
And then was being shown what I had been taken
through after my mom had died.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But I wasn't totally getting the whole.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Why and all the pieces and how it was all
fabricated together and because of all of this human conditioning
that gets passed down from generation to generation. So like
the whole tapestry got shown to me, So the what
happens and how, and then what I was being guided
and taken through, and so it all came into this
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knowing I got the big picture and anyways, like I
had already said, I didn't want to be here most
of my life, and so of course when I was there,
I wanted to stay there with my mother because I've
spent my whole life feeling like the world that I
wanted to live and put it exist here on the earth,
that only existed on the other side. And so that's
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why I longed to be on those side. This unexplainable
amount of love, enjoy and happiness, and so you don't
want to leave that, and especially when you're there with
the ones that you love the most and you never
wanted to be separate from. But I was told that
I had to come back, and part of why I
had to be taken over there actually was to put
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me in my body, because I spent most of my
life not wanting to be there, that I wasn't really living.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
People with a lot of times also experienced me that
I was kind of up fip my head. I just
never really integrate into the body, and so they were
showing me all.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
This and that I needed to fully be in my body,
fully experience life, fully be and participate that I had
to yeah, share this message, and they were showing me
that the world that I was always longing for could
exist and that we were moving into it right now.
But I needed to do my part in sharing this
to help us to move into that shift of consciousness
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that we are, you know, in this time period that
is happening now now.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Earlier I told you that there's a taboo about us
talking about the afterlife, or so it seems that way.
Who can we talk to about it? Who wants to hear?
Who's going to think we're crazy? Why is it like this?
When we get back from the break, I'm going to
tell you what happened around the year fifteen hundred that
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might give a good explanation to the departure of science
from religion. And some very comforting words from a friend
about our deer pets and the afterlife. We'll be right back.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
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to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Have you
ever wondered why it can feel so taboo to talk
about life after death in a serious scientific way. We
have heard so much incredible evidence from near death experiences, science,
and other phenomena, yet so often it's dismissed without even
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a second thought. Well, the reason for this goes back
a long, long time ago. It wasn't always like this.
There was a time when science and spirituality were not enemies.
They were partners on the same quest for truth. To
understand what happened, we need to go back in time,
long before our modern era. Connecting with the spirit world
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wasn't a fringe activity. It was a central and honored
part of many of the world's greatest civilizations and people.
So let's take a little travel trip back to ancient Egypt,
a culture deeply focused on the journey of the soul.
Did you know that for the ancient Egyptians, the most
important moment after death was a ceremony called the weighing
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of the heart. They believed that to enter the paradise
of the afterlife, a soul's heart had to be weighed
on a divine scale against the feather of a goddess
of truth and justice. If the heart was heavy, with
regrets and wrongdoing, it would outweigh the feather and the
soul would be lost. But if the heart was light
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filled with love and kindness, it would balance perfectly and
the soul would be granted eternal life. This belief shaped
their entire civilization, constant reminder that the state of your
soul mattered more than anything else. Now, if we journey
to the windswept hills of ancient Ireland and the Celtic people,
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did you know that the holiday we now know as
Halloween had its roots in an ancient Celtic festival named
sam Him. For the Celts, this night was the most
sacred time of the year because they believed the veil
between our world and the spirit world was at its thinnest.
It wasn't a spooky time. It was a time for family.
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Families would like huge bonfires to guide the spirits of
their ancestors home and set an extra place at the
dinner table welcoming their departed loved ones back for that
one night reunion. And perhaps no culture embodied this connection
more than the ancient Greeks. Did you know that, for
over a thousand years, most powerful and respected institution in
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Greece was the Oracle of Delphi. Kings, generals, and everyday
people would make long journeys to a sacred temple to
ask for guidance from the spirit of the god Apollo.
Imagine a humble, olive farmer in a small village. His
young son had passed from a fever and his heart
was broken. After saving for a year, he makes the
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long journey to the temple. He trembles and asks the
priest please ask for God. Is my son theo at peace?
The priestess, in her trance, sneaks in a strange, distant voice.
The smallest sparrow has found the highest branch and sings
in the eternal son, he is not gone, he is home.
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The father weeps with overwhelming joy, his belief affirmed by
the highest authority in the land. This integrated worldview wasn't
limited to Europe. Across the Ocean, many Native American cultures
lived with the deep understanding that the spirit world is
constantly interwoven with our own. Communication with ancestors through visions
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and dreams wasn't strange, It was a vital part of
everyday life. They didn't speak to the dead because in
their worldview, no one truly ever dies. Imagine a young
Lakota brave named Hinto, to his self doubt. Following tradition,
he goes alone on a vision quest on the third night,
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out of the smoke from his sacred fire, he sees
the clear, loving face of his grandfather. The old man
doesn't speak in words, but Hinto hears his voice inside
his mind. The heart of the wolf is found when
he stands alone. You have my heart. Do not be afraid.
The boy returns a man, his courage restored by a
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direct communication to his grandfather in spirit. These stories show
us a world where science and spirit were not enemies.
They were often one in the same. Early astronomers, thinkers,
and healers saw their work as a way to understand
the divine. Sir Isaac Newton, the man who gave us
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the laws of gravity, spent more time in his life
studying ancient alchemy and the Bible than he did on physics.
For him, science was about discovering the rules of God's
magnificent creation. So what happened? How did we get from
there to here? This brings us to a period in
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history when a great divorce happened between science and spirit.
As researcher Stephen Schwartz pointed out a major turning point
was an event in the fifteen hundreds called the Council
of Trent. The Catholic Church was feeling threatened by new
ideas that were challenging its authority, so the leaders of
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the church drew a line in the sand. They basically
told the scientific community, you can have the physical world,
study the stars, the rocks, the human body, that is
your territory. But the soul, the spirit, consciousness, and the
afterlife that is our territory. It belongs to the Church.
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And this wasn't a friendly suggestion. Came with a terrifying
threat enforced by the Inquisition. The message was clear, if
you are a scientist and you cross that line, you
will be punished, and the punishment could be imprisonment, torture,
or even death. This fear was very real. In the
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year sixteen hundred, a brilliant thinker named Giordano Bruno was
burned at the stake for his radical ideas about an
infinite universe. A few decades later, the famous astronomer Galileo
was forced to publicly renounce his discovery that the Earth
revolved around the Sun and spent the rest of his
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life under house arrest. The message to all scientists was
loud and clear. You stick to the physical world or
you will pay a terrible price. For the next three
hundred years, this deep seated fear shaped the world of science.
A power of unwritten rule was created. Do not touch
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the subject of consciousness or spirit. It became unprofessional, a
career killer to ask questions about the soul. Over time,
scientists did what anyone would do to survive. They began
to ignore the other reality. It's like a child who
has told they can't play with a certain toy. At first,
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they are upset, but eventually, to make themselves feel better,
they decide, I never wanted to play with that toy anyway.
Scientists created a new identity for themselves, one that was
purely materialistic, deciding that if something couldn't be measured, weighed,
or seen under a microscope, it simply wasn't real. A
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deep seated taboo was born, and that, my friends, is
a big reason why it still seems taboo to talk
about the afterlife today. That old fear, that cultural wound
from centuries ago, is still within us. It's an echo
in our modern world. That tells us it's not scientific
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to believe in something beyond the physical. But as we
are learning, the evidence for that unseen world is all
around us, waiting for us to be brave enough to look.
And we must remember science is not the be all
and the end all. The idea that science has to
explain everything is simply not true. In fact, the more
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scientists discover, the more they realize how much they don't know.
Did you know that scientists today admit that everything we
can see, every star, every galaxy, every planet, every single
thing on this Earth and in the entire known universe,
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makes up about only five percent of what's a actually
out there. The other ninety five percent is a complete mystery.
They call it dark matter and dark energy. They know
that it's there because they can see the effects, like
the gravity that holds galaxies together, but they have absolutely
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no idea what it is. Ninety five percent of reality
is an invisible mystery to modern science. Could our loved ones,
could the afterlife exist in that vast, unseen, unknown reality.
It's a question science can't answer yet, but I think
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we can. And did you know that science can't fully
explain some of the most basic things we experience every day.
They don't have a complete explanation for gravity. They know
how it works, but they don't know why it works.
They can't explain how a bicycle stays up, or even
how a cat purs and what about the placebo effect?
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And this is a documented scientific fact that a person's
belief that if they are getting real medicine it can
cause their body to heal itself, even if they were
only given a sugarpill. How does that belief create a
physical change? Science doesn't have the answer. The universe is
filled with these beautiful mysteries. So the next time someone
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tells you that the afterlife can't be real because science
doesn't support it, you can gently remind them that science
does not have all the answers. The greatest scientists are
the ones who are humble enough to admit what they
don't know. The taboo against talking about the afterlife is
not a scientific conclusion. It's a historical habit, an echo
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from a time of fear. At that time, my friend
is over. We are now in an age where millions
of people are sharing their personal experiences, providing a new
kind of evidence that is just as power powerful, just
as real and just as worthy of our attention. So
we're gonna head off to the break and when we
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get back, we have our friend Eric giving some of
the most comforting words about our pets who really are
in the afterlife and they're still part of our life,
and there's a few tips on happiness. We'll be right back.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
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and Coast to Coast am Heirinormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
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to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. You may know, oh,
I am a big fan of medium Scott Milligan. One
of his talents is sitting on behalf of the spirit
world as a trance medium, someone else speaks through him.
We've recently published a book, Conversations with Eric, that is
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so profound on the top questions about life, death and
the afterlife. And happy to say the audio book just
came out and you can hear Eric's words directly on
one of our fridays where you can ask Eric questions yourself.
We had this question come in, Dear Sandra, could you
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please ask Eric to talk about pets that have crossed over.
My daughter has lost her beloved dog who passed on
her sixteenth birthday. She is so terribly devastated to the
extent all she can think about is to follow him
and be with him. She loved him so much. They
were never parted for one single day. My daughter is listening,
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but hasn't the strength to ask herself. Here is Eric's response.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
The pain, my dear, you are feeling now is the
result of true love. If someone is feeling as you
are now, you have known true love. It took a
moment for one to accept. For when I walked upon
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your earth, I treated animals appallingly because I was taught
I am the master and I must be obeyed. But
when I came to our side of life, I came
to accept that the light that was in the very
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thing I was trying to control was the same light
within me. It just took a different form. For an
animal shows great compassion. For in your modern world, you
may choose not to sit with your mother why you
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are being fed, But the animal will choose to sit
next to you when you wish to watch or read,
or with modern technology, be lost in your world, the
animal will lay with you. If you have conversations to yourself,
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the animal will listen. This is true love, the one
you miss today, my dear, that may have struggled to walk,
to digest, to do things that it used to do.
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That is all gone, my friend. But in our world
the animals run and act like children who have been
given candy. But those animals that have been loved by
you will be cared for by your grandparents and also
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others that have known you. Your world is of time.
In your short life, you have experienced a lot. In
its short life, it has felt your love and known
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your company. But in our world there is no time.
To this animal. The separation is only a moment, do
you think, my dear, But our world is above you
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or below you. This is not so. Our world is
amongst you. We just moved too fast for you to see,
for your senses may not be accustomed to our Dutch.
So your animal, even though you have said lost, you've
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lost no one, my friend, or they sit by your
side when you go to bed. Just recently you thought
you heard, but then you said, oh, it must be
my imagination. For our world can only move from the imagination,
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because that is the canvas of expression. You will live.
And if one can say as young Daniel has cheekily
moved close to me. You adopted this animal, You gave
it love. You have an opportunity when you so wish,
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to give another animal, an opportunity to know the love.
But that is only at your own pace, my friend.
The pain you are feeling now, as Sandra has given voice,
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you said you are thinking of coming to our side
of life to follow. That pain you feel will go away,
but it will be given to someone else, like your mother,
like others who have known and loved you. That is
a gift that no one wishes to receive. Your animal
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is not next to me, It is next to you. Now.
We just prayed that through the language of love you
would accept that. But I will say this to you.
Nothing more throw this animal down. Nothing will hurt this animal.
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It only knows love. That is why you feel the
pain that you're feeling now. But as you go to bed,
as you go to your place of rest, be aware
of the sounds around you, but also in your dreams.
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Be aware of how you hear the snuffles of breath,
and you will know that nothing has ever left you.
It just changes form. And so to the family, I
say this to you. You are grieving together. Grief is
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the shadow of love you can never replace, You can
only expand. If you are feeling this pain, go to
a place where animals are abandoned and volunteer a short
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moment of your time so you can give love as
painful as it is, but you are giving those who
have been abandoned an opportunity to fall in love with you.
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And know that by your side there's the one you miss,
encouraging you to smile. Sundra, my dear, anything I say
will never be pleasing when one has tears in their eyes.
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And know this, the love you have will always be.
And when your life has run its course, when you
you're self, find romance and be a person that travels
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the world. When you are old and lay in a
bed sweetly, will you dream and be woken by the
snuffling sound, and together you will be again, Sondra, might
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dear never please it, But let us move along.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Special words. You can find that audio book on Amazon.
Just type in conversations with Eric. Now. That beautiful message
reminds us that our connections, whether they're an animal or
a person, they're eternal. And this brings me to something
I heard on the radio this week that I want
to share with you. It was from a happiness expert,
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Harvard Professor Arthur C. Brooks, and he was talking about
research and four keys to a truly happy and meaningful life.
It was simple. He says, it all boils down to family, friends, faith,
and service. He explained that we need to actively nurture
our relationships because these are the true currency of life.
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He also says that we need to serve, whether it's
work that provides service or volunteering something we can do
to aid and make better the life of another. And finally,
he said faith. And I love this because, as he
explained it, it isn't about one specific religion. It's about
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having a spiritual or philosophical belief that helps you zoom
out and see the bigger picture of life, something that
gives your life meaning beyond the day to day worries.
And for many of us, that faith is our deep
knowing or exploration in the afterlife. It's that faith that
our connections with family and friends are not temporary. It's
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the faith at our service and the love we give
matters and has an eternal impact. And it's the faith
that we are not alone. That my friends is a
powerful recipe for happiness, family, friends, faith and service. Right
here and right now, as our episode today comes to
an end, I remind you come visit me at We
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Don'tdie dot com. Come to one of our free Sunday
gatherings with medium demonstration included. Meet mister Eric on one
of our fridays in the Arms of Eternity. Join our
friends Carrie and Phil for a psychic slash medium class.
Get to know the powers of your soul all at
We Don'tdie dot Com. In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain. Love
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is all around you. You're one of a kind and
your life matters. So from the bottom of my heart,
thank you taking your precious time today listening to Shades
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after day.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Before we
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get started with our episode, I have a message for
listener Christopher and all others who have a great story
you think is perfect for shades of the afterlife, whether
you've had a near death experience, a sign from your
loved one, or anything else that screams, oh my gosh,
this is proof that the afterlife is real. I want
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to know about it. My email address is Sandra Champlaine
at gmail dot com. On today's episode, we have a
few things to talk about. You'll meet Brandy, who not
only had a near death experience, but was one of
the very few who got a reading with John Edwards
in one of his big venues, giving her and her
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very skeptical dad proof that her mother lives on. Also,
I've often wondered why talking about the afterlife feels like
such a taboo subject. Do you feel it sometimes? I
know I do. Almost all the world's religions believe in
an afterlife, So why do we sometimes feel afraid being
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open and talking about it. Why do we feel sometimes
that if science hasn't proven it, then there's really no evidence.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
There was a great divorce that I uncovered between science
and spirit in the fifteen hundreds, which made it a
life or death situation if we were to openly share
our beliefs. I think currently we are simply a product
of the last five hundred years of conditioning, you know,
buying into some of these fear based beliefs. So more
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about that later. Next. Have you felt the love for
an animal companion? Have you had a special pet that
has a place in your heart that no human being
has ever reached. Today, I'd like to dedicate this episode
to my aunt Donna and our beloved cat Harry, who
this week migrated into the spirit world. I own a
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house with my Auntie Donna, and have for well over
twenty something years, and Harry has been in our life
for thirteen years. He was a stray cat and needed
a home just after the passing of our cat Millie.
I had traveled a lot prior to the year twenty
twenty and so Donna really formed the deepest relationship with
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this little kiddy. Now, many of you know that when
COVID hit back in twenty twenty five, there were a
few health situations in the household here, so I relocated
and I spend most of my time with my dear
mom these days. Donna is about two hours north of
where I am, so we see each other from time
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to time. But little Harry was her trusted companion and
wherever Donna went. Harry followed. If you're some who hasn't
had a faithful pet, you may not really fully appreciate
the unconditional love and bond that gets created with our
little furried friends. But if you do have a pet,
or have had a close pet, you know just what
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I'm talking about. Harry's been quite sick, and a few
days ago Donna had to make a very tough decision.
And I know that Donna is hurting right now and
that grief is incredibly high. And while I wasn't as
close to Harry, I certainly do feel the grief, and
grief has a very sneaky way of igniting grief from
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the past. Have you ever found that we may think
that we are a good distance from the deep pain
of grief, and then something happens a pet loss in
my case, or passing of someone who was a little distant,
or we might see something on television or in a
movie those old Hallmark card commercials sometimes would trigger the
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grief from the past. And it really does just seem
like any bit of grief has the power to reignite
so many things. So in my case, Harry's passing led
me to the loss of prior pets, to the death
of my dad, my grandmother, and how life really has
changed for me and my mom and my aunt drastically
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after the COVID days. We lost our full time income,
our business of thirty five years. And for those of
you who are new to the show, Mom and I
ran a very successful catering business to race car teams
for thirty five years. And yes, there's a lot of
good that's come out of the past five years, including
getting to be here with you now. I love shades
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of the afterlife. I love continuing the exploration and then
sharing with you everything. But I too, am a human
being and sometimes it gets tough. So I try to
take my own advice that I give you here on
the show. You are feeling grief, I ask you be
gentle on yourself. If you haven't yet taken me up
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on my offer for a free PDF copy of my book,
which is called We Don't Die, A Skeptics Discovery of
Life after Death. I want you to have one because
chapter ten is about how to survive grief, Why we grieve,
what's happening biologically within our bodies and minds, things we
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can do to ease the pain and just understand it.
If you'd like a copy, my website is we Don't
Die dot com. And at the bottom of the page,
if you want to enter your name in your email address,
you'll get a pop up with it and then also
an email. Now it says you get the first few
chapters of the book, but the secret is it is
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the entire book. I had mentioned earlier. My cat Millie.
Now I was somebody who was anti cat's got scratched
up by a cat when I was a little kid.
But this Millie, she snuck into our house and actually
snuck into my heart. And Millie was my special companion
for twelve years. Even when I wrote my book We
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Don't Die. She had her head resting just next to
my fingertips on my laptop. She was there every step
of the way. Millie got very sick and we unfortunately
had to put her to sleep. But just after I
heard from my publisher and I had twenty four hours
to reread my book for any errors or typos before
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it went to the printing house. And I had read
and reread my books so many times, I have to
be honest, it's the last thing that I wanted to do. However,
I was forced to read it one last time, and
you know what happened. My grief was tremendously lifted. I
felt comforted about the afterlife. That chapter ten on grief
gave me just the words I needed to put everything
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in perspective understand what I was feeling. So for me,
my cat Millie was an angel and passed at exactly
the right time, on the right day to let me
know how powerful the words on grief are. In my book,
you'll hear some very comforting words about pets in the
afterlife and our last segment together. But now let's meet
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Brandy faith Well. I met her years ago at a seminar.
She's a nice, bubbly gal and is passionate about things
like psychology, neuroscience, quantum physics. She's assisted for years in
the past at Tony Robbins VNCE, but her real transformation
came after her mom died when she had a near
(08:33):
death experience. Brandy is on a mission to stop the
human suffering that gets passed down from generation to generation,
so she wrote a book. It's called Heal Your Heart,
Free Your Mind. Let's listen to my conversation with Brandy.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
My mom died of a brain tumor. I was very
connected with my mother, and a year before she died,
there's no I'm almost really healthy. She did yoga the time,
she read lots of spiritual personals about the books, and
she ate healthy and didn't drink and all that.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So there was just no signs for my mom.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
But a year before I would call her crying, going, Mom,
I can't lose you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I don't want to be here without you. I want
to go first, and she's like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I'm life going anywhere, And it made no logical sense,
but it's like my soul knew that something was coming up,
and I.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Was definitely afraid.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
And so unfortunately, a year later, I got the phone
call that my dad said, this is how I found
your mother.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
She's not doing well. We have a CEAT scam for
her or an em mari. I think it was for
her tomorrow and if you want to come down, come down.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And it was like then I knew it was happening,
and I just hung up the phone and all night
I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm just pacing back and forth. My mother, God, please
don't take a bother.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And so that day they told.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Her she had a glibas doil multi form and it
had taken over her whole left side of her brain,
gone through the central part of her brain and started
over to the right side of her brain. And it's
the most aggressive, faster growing tumor and once it gets
in the center of the brain, it's inoperable and do
anything with it. So they gave her three months to live,
and unfortunately that's about how long she lived to the day.
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I was at this existential suffering. I did not want
to be here. And when you're at that loathan, the
divine can really do some work with you. And because
your ego, that part of you that think God, it
all control and all figured out and be out of
the way. Because I was at this extential suffering, I
just didn't want to be here, and I was in
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a state of anxiety. I would have adrenaline during the
day and then cortisol would come up at night, and
so you're in a constant state of not sleeping. So
you're in this anxiety and if anybody's experienced it, to me,
it was hell. And I felt like, if this is
going to continue, I really don't want to be here.
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As a living hell. So I was just looking for
anything to help me, and I discovered something called dietsha,
so something similar to reiki, where it's just like a
healing energy and it has a divine intelligence of what
needs to be healed, either emotionally, spiritually, or physically. Because
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I was in this state of anxiety, and part of
it was because when my mother died, I went through
her journals and I found out family secrets that just
kind of traumatized.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Oh my eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
No, it was like all the foundations in which I
believed about my family I was weren't totally true. All
my foundations had been shaken, and I didn't feel like
I had a safe place from these secrets that I
found out. I had a lot of anger at people,
and I was having some anger kind of blaming people
(12:03):
for my mother's death, if you will. So when I
had this dieksha, what I experienced was I've just left.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
The event where they gave me the dieksha. I'm peaceful
and nice, but I was like, Okay, I don't know
what that was to call energy.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
It's kind of a little woo wu, right, And I
went home and I went to sleep, and I woke
up an hour later and my whole body was vibrating,
and it was so vibrating, specifically right in the liver area.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I was vibrating so much there that it was.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Almost painful, and I was just really freaked out. I
didn't know I just did to myself. I called my
dad and I told my dad that, Hey, Dad, I
don't know what I just did to myself, but this
is the person's the name and number of anything happens
to me.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I was that freaked out.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Right, and so what I experienced though was the next day,
I was a little out of it because I hadn't
slept nights.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
With this energy.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But it's time for a quick break and we'll be
right back with more from Brandy and Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal
Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
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Sandra Champlain. You're listening to Brandy Weld. Her mom had
just died. She had a treatment similar to Raki called Deeksha,
and she soon to tell us about an extraordinary medium
rating and near death experience.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Next day, I was a little out of it because
I haven't slept all nights. With this energy, I had
all the knowledge of all the things that had happened.
But like all the charges was gone, and all of
a sudden, the anxiety was gone, and I was able
to sleep. I felt really good, And before I was
really uncomfortable to be around. So me and my mom
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loved John Edwards when he had a show Crossing Over,
and we used to watch it every day. If we
couldn't watch it, we taped it. So both her and
I made an agreement because I traveled around the world
and so she was worried about me, and so we
had an agreement at that time, like whoever died first,
we had meeted John Edward.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So when she was dying, I said, remember mom, when
we're meeting. She said, yep, John Edward.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
After she died, I went to see where he was
going to be speaking closest to me, because he was
no longer on TV, and he was traveling around the
United States, and a lot of times it's like twenty
five hundred people at an event and at best ten
people get read.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So I looked to see when he was going to
be speaking the closest to me, and it was on.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Her actual birthday, August fourteenth, and so I'm like, that's
the one.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's the one we have to go to.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
And so I told my dad and he decided to
go just to console me when she didn't come through,
because he thought when you died, you died, you went
to desk. And then I had a boyfriend come too
because he thought it was all BS and he was
going to come just to prove that it was all.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
BS, right, right, So I came there with.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
My two skeptics, and actually, with John Edward's events, it's
normally the skeptic that gets read because they need it
the most.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But also because my mother watched him for so long,
she knew how to get his attention before everybody else.
So he was doing what he normally does.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
He says, when I say above you, I mean this,
and he goes, okay, and just women. And I'm coming
over here with a mother energy and he goes, okay,
if I say this besides you, I mean this.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I say, blow you, I mean this. Okay, I
have a mother energy right here who died of a
brain tumor. And so I jump up.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He's pointing right at me, right, you know how he
gets pulled to a direction yep, and so I jump
up and he's like really specific. He's saying, who's Patricia
and we go her sister and he goes so she's saying,
tell her hi, and that who's Jenny. That's Patricia's daughter.
She should say you tell her hi. And then he
(16:12):
goes to my dad. He says, she's telling me to
teach you about a man and a little bo peep
outfit full on with the bonnet and the staff. And
also I look at my dad and he just starts bawling,
crying instantly, and my boyfriend, who's there that they're meeting
for the first time, my dad's almost collapsing. He's like
(16:35):
catching my father. So here I skept. A boyfriend is going,
oh my god, the skeptic dad is being affected by this,
right crying. So anyways, and me and my dad were
having a lot of fighting during this time period with
my mom's death, so I'm going, like, what the hell
Dad wasn't until afterwards the reading I got to find
(16:57):
out what that was about, and it was because well,
my mom had died. He had gone to a park
in which him and my mother used to go to
all the time is right next to a river. And
then he sat on a bench that's next to river
that him and my mother used to sit on, and
he put his hands down on his head, crying, and
then all of a sudden, he felt an arm around him.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
He looked up and it was a man in a
little bopete velvet with the bonnet with a stab. Yeah,
consoling him, but also kind of flirt with him too.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Yeah, he never told anybody this ever, So he knew
that there's no way that John could have known this
if it wasn't my mother saying that she was there.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So that made dead a believer.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
And my mom knew she had to tell him something
that he couldn't justify right, that he couldn't guess that. Oh,
he probably said something that could be similar to and
how it transformed him so much?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Was it like it was her birthday?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
So he went and took her out to her favorite
restaurant that night for her birthday, took her to her
favorite show and he had a seat next to him,
and he held her hand during the.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Whole show, and it'd be that special, it isn't that?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And then afterwards, all of a sudden I've found out,
he's like sneaking off to scene where John Edward's going
to be close to him again, so he could try
to have another connection.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And he started experiencing things around the house that he
wouldn't have ever probably experienced if he didn't have this
new belief. For instance, my mom and dad had his
inhr sincts in their master bedroom. Yeah, and on her
side there was one of those push soaps. Well on
her side, all of a sudden, the soap starts spewing.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Out, like music boxes and stuff like that would start
playing music, yeah, without anything. So she started letting him
know that she was around, and he wasn't freaked out
and it was beautiful. So that was such a beautiful gift.
And also I want to share that my mom was
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trying to utilize John to counsel me and my dad,
so because we were having this kind of bite and
falling out, she was like trying to bring us together
through John. So that was really interesting as well.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And so were you left with the same wow factor
and really feeling comforted.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, you watch it and you believe it
so much, but it's a whole different experience when you
actually physically experience it, and it's no question like that.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
It's different when you see other people that you don't
know have readings, but when you personally have it.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, did you yourself have any your death experience?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah. So in two thousand and eight, I was in
Fiji and I.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Was assisting with a program that was on Tony's property
on Savusavu, and we had like a two week break
between events, so I went traveling by myself to the
other islands. When I was traveling, I and a few
other people signed up for hiking in the jungle there
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in the rainforest, and we were doing those kinds of
things during the day because we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
A night dive that night, goob A diving, And.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So he asked that if we wanted to go see
this hermit that lived at the bottom of the hill,
and we said yes.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And I don't remember any of this.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Part, but they say he most likely shouldn't have brought
us down because it was a really wet, narrow trail
and then there was this log that was blocking it
that he was helping us over. But we made it
down there safely and saw the hermit and we were
on our way back up, and everybody else was way
ahead of meet, and there was one guy way behind us.
(20:51):
The guide was helping me over this log and him
and I both fell and I never saw him again,
so I don't know what happened, but I hit my
head on a rock on my way down. So the
guy that was way behind he just saw the guide
holding somebody's hand falling, but he didn't know who it was.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Everybody else went and got health and what he experienced
was me was just kind of being gone for about
half an hour.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
But what I experienced was crossing, like ending up in
this other dimension.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And there was my mother.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And she didn't look how I saw her when she died.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So when she died, she had gray hair.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
She was fifty nine years old and her hair was gray,
but she looked like when she was in her thirties.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But I didn't put it together. My first response was
just like, oh my god, Mom, you're alive.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Ah, that was a bad dream, Like I thought everything
else that had happened was all just a bad dream
and that this was real and that she was alive.
And then of course I was told otherwise. But of
course it's not speaking.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It's just like a downloading like knowing, it just comes
into so it's hard to describe that. But I was
told what happened, and it was kind of like this
beautiful green grass and hilly and flowers all around.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
And I had all of my deceased animals around me too,
and it's like I could really feel them. I could
feel my horse had her head over my shoulder, it
was like breathing on my neck. And then I was
sitting on the ground and I could feel my cat
just kind of rubbing behind my legs, and my dogs
(22:43):
their heads in my lap, and it was just it
was so awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You were just like surrounded by this love.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I was shown what I had been doing all of
my life, how I was stuck in this victim consciousness
and this human suffering that happens, and how it happened,
And then was being shown what I had been taken
through after my mom had died.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But I wasn't totally getting the whole.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Why and all the pieces and how it was all
fabricated together and because of all of this human conditioning
that gets passed down from generation to generation. So like
the whole tapestry got shown to me, So the what
happens and how, and then what I was being guided
and taken through, and so it all came into this
(23:38):
knowing I got the big picture and anyways, like I
had already said, I didn't want to be here most
of my life, and so of course when I was there,
I wanted to stay there with my mother because I've
spent my whole life feeling like the world that I
wanted to live and put it exist here on the earth,
that only existed on the other side. And so that's
(23:58):
why I longed to be on those side. This unexplainable
amount of love, enjoy and happiness, and so you don't
want to leave that, and especially when you're there with
the ones that you love the most and you never
wanted to be separate from. But I was told that
I had to come back, and part of why I
had to be taken over there actually was to put
(24:20):
me in my body, because I spent most of my
life not wanting to be there, that I wasn't really living.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
People with a lot of times also experienced me that
I was kind of up fip my head. I just
never really integrate into the body, and so they were
showing me all.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
This and that I needed to fully be in my body,
fully experience life, fully be and participate that I had
to yeah, share this message, and they were showing me
that the world that I was always longing for could
exist and that we were moving into it right now.
But I needed to do my part in sharing this
to help us to move into that shift of consciousness
(24:55):
that we are, you know, in this time period that
is happening now now.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Earlier I told you that there's a taboo about us
talking about the afterlife, or so it seems that way.
Who can we talk to about it? Who wants to hear?
Who's going to think we're crazy? Why is it like this?
When we get back from the break, I'm going to
tell you what happened around the year fifteen hundred that
(25:21):
might give a good explanation to the departure of science
from religion. And some very comforting words from a friend
about our deer pets and the afterlife. We'll be right back.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
(26:02):
to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Have you
ever wondered why it can feel so taboo to talk
about life after death in a serious scientific way. We
have heard so much incredible evidence from near death experiences, science,
and other phenomena, yet so often it's dismissed without even
(26:23):
a second thought. Well, the reason for this goes back
a long, long time ago. It wasn't always like this.
There was a time when science and spirituality were not enemies.
They were partners on the same quest for truth. To
understand what happened, we need to go back in time,
long before our modern era. Connecting with the spirit world
(26:47):
wasn't a fringe activity. It was a central and honored
part of many of the world's greatest civilizations and people.
So let's take a little travel trip back to ancient Egypt,
a culture deeply focused on the journey of the soul.
Did you know that for the ancient Egyptians, the most
important moment after death was a ceremony called the weighing
(27:11):
of the heart. They believed that to enter the paradise
of the afterlife, a soul's heart had to be weighed
on a divine scale against the feather of a goddess
of truth and justice. If the heart was heavy, with
regrets and wrongdoing, it would outweigh the feather and the
soul would be lost. But if the heart was light
(27:32):
filled with love and kindness, it would balance perfectly and
the soul would be granted eternal life. This belief shaped
their entire civilization, constant reminder that the state of your
soul mattered more than anything else. Now, if we journey
to the windswept hills of ancient Ireland and the Celtic people,
(27:53):
did you know that the holiday we now know as
Halloween had its roots in an ancient Celtic festival named
sam Him. For the Celts, this night was the most
sacred time of the year because they believed the veil
between our world and the spirit world was at its thinnest.
It wasn't a spooky time. It was a time for family.
(28:15):
Families would like huge bonfires to guide the spirits of
their ancestors home and set an extra place at the
dinner table welcoming their departed loved ones back for that
one night reunion. And perhaps no culture embodied this connection
more than the ancient Greeks. Did you know that, for
over a thousand years, most powerful and respected institution in
(28:38):
Greece was the Oracle of Delphi. Kings, generals, and everyday
people would make long journeys to a sacred temple to
ask for guidance from the spirit of the god Apollo.
Imagine a humble, olive farmer in a small village. His
young son had passed from a fever and his heart
was broken. After saving for a year, he makes the
(29:00):
long journey to the temple. He trembles and asks the
priest please ask for God. Is my son theo at peace?
The priestess, in her trance, sneaks in a strange, distant voice.
The smallest sparrow has found the highest branch and sings
in the eternal son, he is not gone, he is home.
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The father weeps with overwhelming joy, his belief affirmed by
the highest authority in the land. This integrated worldview wasn't
limited to Europe. Across the Ocean, many Native American cultures
lived with the deep understanding that the spirit world is
constantly interwoven with our own. Communication with ancestors through visions
(29:45):
and dreams wasn't strange, It was a vital part of
everyday life. They didn't speak to the dead because in
their worldview, no one truly ever dies. Imagine a young
Lakota brave named Hinto, to his self doubt. Following tradition,
he goes alone on a vision quest on the third night,
(30:06):
out of the smoke from his sacred fire, he sees
the clear, loving face of his grandfather. The old man
doesn't speak in words, but Hinto hears his voice inside
his mind. The heart of the wolf is found when
he stands alone. You have my heart. Do not be afraid.
The boy returns a man, his courage restored by a
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direct communication to his grandfather in spirit. These stories show
us a world where science and spirit were not enemies.
They were often one in the same. Early astronomers, thinkers,
and healers saw their work as a way to understand
the divine. Sir Isaac Newton, the man who gave us
(30:49):
the laws of gravity, spent more time in his life
studying ancient alchemy and the Bible than he did on physics.
For him, science was about discovering the rules of God's
magnificent creation. So what happened? How did we get from
there to here? This brings us to a period in
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history when a great divorce happened between science and spirit.
As researcher Stephen Schwartz pointed out a major turning point
was an event in the fifteen hundreds called the Council
of Trent. The Catholic Church was feeling threatened by new
ideas that were challenging its authority, so the leaders of
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the church drew a line in the sand. They basically
told the scientific community, you can have the physical world,
study the stars, the rocks, the human body, that is
your territory. But the soul, the spirit, consciousness, and the
afterlife that is our territory. It belongs to the Church.
(31:56):
And this wasn't a friendly suggestion. Came with a terrifying
threat enforced by the Inquisition. The message was clear, if
you are a scientist and you cross that line, you
will be punished, and the punishment could be imprisonment, torture,
or even death. This fear was very real. In the
(32:19):
year sixteen hundred, a brilliant thinker named Giordano Bruno was
burned at the stake for his radical ideas about an
infinite universe. A few decades later, the famous astronomer Galileo
was forced to publicly renounce his discovery that the Earth
revolved around the Sun and spent the rest of his
(32:41):
life under house arrest. The message to all scientists was
loud and clear. You stick to the physical world or
you will pay a terrible price. For the next three
hundred years, this deep seated fear shaped the world of science.
A power of unwritten rule was created. Do not touch
(33:03):
the subject of consciousness or spirit. It became unprofessional, a
career killer to ask questions about the soul. Over time,
scientists did what anyone would do to survive. They began
to ignore the other reality. It's like a child who
has told they can't play with a certain toy. At first,
(33:24):
they are upset, but eventually, to make themselves feel better,
they decide, I never wanted to play with that toy anyway.
Scientists created a new identity for themselves, one that was
purely materialistic, deciding that if something couldn't be measured, weighed,
or seen under a microscope, it simply wasn't real. A
(33:48):
deep seated taboo was born, and that, my friends, is
a big reason why it still seems taboo to talk
about the afterlife today. That old fear, that cultural wound
from centuries ago, is still within us. It's an echo
in our modern world. That tells us it's not scientific
(34:10):
to believe in something beyond the physical. But as we
are learning, the evidence for that unseen world is all
around us, waiting for us to be brave enough to look.
And we must remember science is not the be all
and the end all. The idea that science has to
explain everything is simply not true. In fact, the more
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scientists discover, the more they realize how much they don't know.
Did you know that scientists today admit that everything we
can see, every star, every galaxy, every planet, every single
thing on this Earth and in the entire known universe,
(34:55):
makes up about only five percent of what's a actually
out there. The other ninety five percent is a complete mystery.
They call it dark matter and dark energy. They know
that it's there because they can see the effects, like
the gravity that holds galaxies together, but they have absolutely
(35:17):
no idea what it is. Ninety five percent of reality
is an invisible mystery to modern science. Could our loved ones,
could the afterlife exist in that vast, unseen, unknown reality.
It's a question science can't answer yet, but I think
(35:38):
we can. And did you know that science can't fully
explain some of the most basic things we experience every day.
They don't have a complete explanation for gravity. They know
how it works, but they don't know why it works.
They can't explain how a bicycle stays up, or even
how a cat purs and what about the placebo effect?
(36:00):
And this is a documented scientific fact that a person's
belief that if they are getting real medicine it can
cause their body to heal itself, even if they were
only given a sugarpill. How does that belief create a
physical change? Science doesn't have the answer. The universe is
filled with these beautiful mysteries. So the next time someone
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tells you that the afterlife can't be real because science
doesn't support it, you can gently remind them that science
does not have all the answers. The greatest scientists are
the ones who are humble enough to admit what they
don't know. The taboo against talking about the afterlife is
not a scientific conclusion. It's a historical habit, an echo
(36:46):
from a time of fear. At that time, my friend
is over. We are now in an age where millions
of people are sharing their personal experiences, providing a new
kind of evidence that is just as power powerful, just
as real and just as worthy of our attention. So
we're gonna head off to the break and when we
(37:08):
get back, we have our friend Eric giving some of
the most comforting words about our pets who really are
in the afterlife and they're still part of our life,
and there's a few tips on happiness. We'll be right back.
You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
(37:29):
and Coast to Coast am Heirinormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
(37:56):
to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. You may know, oh,
I am a big fan of medium Scott Milligan. One
of his talents is sitting on behalf of the spirit
world as a trance medium, someone else speaks through him.
We've recently published a book, Conversations with Eric, that is
(38:16):
so profound on the top questions about life, death and
the afterlife. And happy to say the audio book just
came out and you can hear Eric's words directly on
one of our fridays where you can ask Eric questions yourself.
We had this question come in, Dear Sandra, could you
(38:37):
please ask Eric to talk about pets that have crossed over.
My daughter has lost her beloved dog who passed on
her sixteenth birthday. She is so terribly devastated to the
extent all she can think about is to follow him
and be with him. She loved him so much. They
were never parted for one single day. My daughter is listening,
(38:59):
but hasn't the strength to ask herself. Here is Eric's response.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
The pain, my dear, you are feeling now is the
result of true love. If someone is feeling as you
are now, you have known true love. It took a
moment for one to accept. For when I walked upon
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your earth, I treated animals appallingly because I was taught
I am the master and I must be obeyed. But
when I came to our side of life, I came
to accept that the light that was in the very
(39:52):
thing I was trying to control was the same light
within me. It just took a different form. For an
animal shows great compassion. For in your modern world, you
may choose not to sit with your mother why you
(40:14):
are being fed, But the animal will choose to sit
next to you when you wish to watch or read,
or with modern technology, be lost in your world, the
animal will lay with you. If you have conversations to yourself,
(40:40):
the animal will listen. This is true love, the one
you miss today, my dear, that may have struggled to walk,
to digest, to do things that it used to do.
(41:03):
That is all gone, my friend. But in our world
the animals run and act like children who have been
given candy. But those animals that have been loved by
you will be cared for by your grandparents and also
(41:26):
others that have known you. Your world is of time.
In your short life, you have experienced a lot. In
its short life, it has felt your love and known
(41:47):
your company. But in our world there is no time.
To this animal. The separation is only a moment, do
you think, my dear, But our world is above you
(42:07):
or below you. This is not so. Our world is
amongst you. We just moved too fast for you to see,
for your senses may not be accustomed to our Dutch.
So your animal, even though you have said lost, you've
(42:32):
lost no one, my friend, or they sit by your
side when you go to bed. Just recently you thought
you heard, but then you said, oh, it must be
my imagination. For our world can only move from the imagination,
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because that is the canvas of expression. You will live.
And if one can say as young Daniel has cheekily
moved close to me. You adopted this animal, You gave
it love. You have an opportunity when you so wish,
(43:25):
to give another animal, an opportunity to know the love.
But that is only at your own pace, my friend.
The pain you are feeling now, as Sandra has given voice,
(43:47):
you said you are thinking of coming to our side
of life to follow. That pain you feel will go away,
but it will be given to someone else, like your mother,
like others who have known and loved you. That is
a gift that no one wishes to receive. Your animal
(44:14):
is not next to me, It is next to you. Now.
We just prayed that through the language of love you
would accept that. But I will say this to you.
Nothing more throw this animal down. Nothing will hurt this animal.
(44:44):
It only knows love. That is why you feel the
pain that you're feeling now. But as you go to bed,
as you go to your place of rest, be aware
of the sounds around you, but also in your dreams.
(45:09):
Be aware of how you hear the snuffles of breath,
and you will know that nothing has ever left you.
It just changes form. And so to the family, I
say this to you. You are grieving together. Grief is
(45:34):
the shadow of love you can never replace, You can
only expand. If you are feeling this pain, go to
a place where animals are abandoned and volunteer a short
(46:02):
moment of your time so you can give love as
painful as it is, but you are giving those who
have been abandoned an opportunity to fall in love with you.
(46:23):
And know that by your side there's the one you miss,
encouraging you to smile. Sundra, my dear, anything I say
will never be pleasing when one has tears in their eyes.
(46:43):
And know this, the love you have will always be.
And when your life has run its course, when you
you're self, find romance and be a person that travels
(47:08):
the world. When you are old and lay in a
bed sweetly, will you dream and be woken by the
snuffling sound, and together you will be again, Sondra, might
(47:31):
dear never please it, But let us move along.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Special words. You can find that audio book on Amazon.
Just type in conversations with Eric. Now. That beautiful message
reminds us that our connections, whether they're an animal or
a person, they're eternal. And this brings me to something
I heard on the radio this week that I want
to share with you. It was from a happiness expert,
(47:59):
Harvard Professor Arthur C. Brooks, and he was talking about
research and four keys to a truly happy and meaningful life.
It was simple. He says, it all boils down to family, friends, faith,
and service. He explained that we need to actively nurture
our relationships because these are the true currency of life.
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He also says that we need to serve, whether it's
work that provides service or volunteering something we can do
to aid and make better the life of another. And finally,
he said faith. And I love this because, as he
explained it, it isn't about one specific religion. It's about
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having a spiritual or philosophical belief that helps you zoom
out and see the bigger picture of life, something that
gives your life meaning beyond the day to day worries.
And for many of us, that faith is our deep
knowing or exploration in the afterlife. It's that faith that
our connections with family and friends are not temporary. It's
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the faith at our service and the love we give
matters and has an eternal impact. And it's the faith
that we are not alone. That my friends is a
powerful recipe for happiness, family, friends, faith and service. Right
here and right now, as our episode today comes to
an end, I remind you come visit me at We
(49:28):
Don'tdie dot com. Come to one of our free Sunday
gatherings with medium demonstration included. Meet mister Eric on one
of our fridays in the Arms of Eternity. Join our
friends Carrie and Phil for a psychic slash medium class.
Get to know the powers of your soul all at
We Don'tdie dot Com. In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain. Love
(49:51):
is all around you. You're one of a kind and
your life matters. So from the bottom of my heart,
thank you taking your precious time today listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast,
a paranormal podcast network.
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